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Title: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Apr 26, 2019, 05:35:38 PM

For the first time in thirty years, Alien is returning to the world of tabletop role-playing with Alien: The Roleplaying Game! Coming to us from Free League Publishing, Alien: The Roleplaying Game will be a “beautifully illustrated full-color hardcover book, both presenting the world of ALIEN in the year 2183 and a fast and effective ruleset designed specifically to enhance the ALIEN experience.”

What’s really interesting about Alien: The RPG is that it comes with two distinct gameplay modes. One is the traditional long-form campaign based over several sessions, the other is what they’ve dubbed “Cinematic play,” a mode that is designed to help ease in players unfamiliar with RPG.

For others who may be trying roleplaying for the first time, there's the "Cinematic" experience, a series of pre-generated storylines that can be played in a single sitting. The first one is called Chariot of the Gods, written by sci-fi author Andrew E.C. Gaska (Death of the Planet of the Apes). Härenstam compared it to the pre-made stories made for Tales From The Loop.

"We wanted to make [Alien] an approachable game. Our most successful game to-date is Tales From The Loop. Of course it's very different from this game, but there are some similarities to how we approach it," Härenstam said. "In [Cinematic] mode, you play scenarios with pre-generated characters and sort of a core arc. They emulate the dramatic structure of an Alien film. It's sort of built for one-shots and shorter play."

Alien: The Roleplaying Game will ship with the single Cinematic storyline, Chariot of the Gods, written by Andrew Gaska (who has previously joined us on the AvP Galaxy Podcast) but according to Free League co-founder Tomas Härenstam there are plans for more.

Campaign-wise, the game is set several years after the events of Alien and Alien 3 and will explore the frontier life of the Alien universe as the characters push towards the Outer Rim.

The year is 2183little more than three years since the destruction of the Hadley's Hope colonyon LV-426, the disappearance of the USS Sulaco, and the closing of the prison and lead works on Fiorina 161. The loss of a Sulaco's Colonial Marine unit along with these Weyland-Yutani sponsored outposts, and the implications of corporate foul play stemming from these incidents, have created an air of distrust between the company and the United Americas.

To add fuel to the fire, conflicts between the rival sectors of space have increased exponentially in the past five years. While unconfirmed, many believe that Hadley's Hope was a test site for one of Weyland-Yutani's bioweapons and that an enemy state sent a warship to nuke it from orbit. Others believe that the Company is working with a rogue nation to assume control of the colonies on the Frontier.

The 2180s are a dangerous time to be alive.

You can learn more about the game in i09’s interview with the publisher’s co-founder Tomas Härenstam or by heading over to the official Alien: The Roleplaying Game website and signing up to their mailing list!

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Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: The Old One on Apr 26, 2019, 05:39:04 PM
Woohoo!

The era I always wanted.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Resident4ever on Apr 26, 2019, 06:24:42 PM
Cool, I wonder if the game will include the U.P.P. or other rogue like sectors like Alexandria from the Aliens Adventure Game.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Komenja on Apr 26, 2019, 06:49:14 PM
Sweet! I dig the time setting, gives the potential for stuff from nearly every movie (sorry, Resurrection) to appear. The mention of "Synthetics playing god" makes me wonder if any of the supplements will involve David or any of the creatures from the prequels. I may not like those movies, but they have some stuff that would be cool to play around with in an rpg. Probably means your character should never remove their helmet though, lest the DM decide to spring "Black Goo Spores, everyone dies" on you.  :P

Never played anything with Year Zero rules before, but I hear nothing but good things about Mutant.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Apr 26, 2019, 07:59:54 PM
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Mr. Clemens on Apr 26, 2019, 09:14:03 PM
SOLD! The Aliens rpg was a disaster rules-wise, but a fun read. This sounds even more up my alley.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: [cancerblack] on Apr 26, 2019, 09:36:22 PM
Sounds similar to my own homemade one, especially the "cinematic"/one-shot mode, which was always hugely popular in my circles - so much so it was often run as a one off in other local groups.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Eldritch_DM on Apr 26, 2019, 11:33:04 PM
I'M SO EXCITED FOR THIS. For the longest time, I've done nothing but my own homebrewed rules/system for Aliens/AVP etc. So I'm quite intrigued by the notion of an official TTRPG.

I know nothing about the company producing it, everyone seems to say they do good works. What else do they produce?
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: SM on Apr 26, 2019, 11:37:18 PM
They did Corilolis and Tales from the Loop. I've not played an rpg in nearly 30 years but I had a look through both books and they look very slick if nothing else. They were going to send me a e-copy of Coriolis last year when I spoke to them but it sadly never materialused.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Local Trouble on Apr 26, 2019, 11:48:18 PM
Sounds like exactly what could have been if not for AR.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: [cancerblack] on Apr 26, 2019, 11:59:20 PM
The "cinematic mode" will be a HUGE boost to this, especially if it gets supported with downloadable missions or expansion books once in a while. Campaign play is nice and all but my experience is that people get the most out of a one-shot, single sitting type game with the Alien setting, because it's so conducive to a 3 act format combining exploration/espionage and high-stakes bloodbaths into a single evening. All meat, no fat.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Monster Man on Apr 27, 2019, 01:17:15 AM
Couple of questions -- I'm sure they're answered if I read on but for the sake of conversation.

Is this a D20 ruleset or something of their own concoction?

Can a player play as the alien? Of course your GM has to do it, I'm more curious if there's any alien-centric stories where you can make a PC alien and they go through what essentially equates to the Alien campaigns in AvP titles.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: [cancerblack] on Apr 27, 2019, 02:04:44 AM
Personally hoping it's not D20 myself. D10 roll-under would be my preferred option.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Monster Man on Apr 27, 2019, 05:36:20 AM
Quote from: [cancerblack] on Apr 27, 2019, 02:04:44 AM
Personally hoping it's not D20 myself. D10 roll-under would be my preferred option.

I'm thinking they'll rip elements of Call of Cthulhu system which is another derivative of a D20.

However, I got to say -- nothing on the website reveals it's gameplay method at all, just a cool trailer and all the nicely drawn artwork to accompany it.

Regardless I'm gonna nab this and DM it for my friends, it's going to cool. Best part is that it's coming out this year.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Apr 27, 2019, 10:56:25 AM
Quick post from the writer of the game.

Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Mr. Clemens on Apr 27, 2019, 12:09:22 PM
Quote from: Monster Man on Apr 27, 2019, 01:17:15 AM
Is this a D20 ruleset or something of their own concoction?

Googling 'Year Zero Engine', I found this (follow link for better formatting):

https://rpggeek.com/rpgsystem/43636/year-zero-engine (https://rpggeek.com/rpgsystem/43636/year-zero-engine)

QuoteHere follows a condensed version of the Year Zero Engine rules. To play, you will need a number of six-sided dice in three different colors.


USING A SKILL

To use a skill, roll a number of Skill Dice (green) equal to your skill level, and a number of Base Dice (yellow) equal to the current value of the attribute connected to the skill. If you are using gear, you also get a number of Gear Dice (black) equal to the Gear Bonus. For your action to succeed, you must roll at least one six.

Opposed Roll: When the rules call for an opposed roll, both you and your opponent roll for a skill. You need to roll more sixes than your opponent to succeed.
PUSHING YOUR ROLL

If you are desperate to succeed, you can push your roll. That means you grab all dice that didn't show ones and sixes, and roll them again. You get a new shot at rolling sixes, but ones on Base Dice and Gear Dice have special effects when you push:
For every Base Dice one on the table after a pushed roll, you suffer one point of trauma against the attribute you used for the skill. You also gain one Mutation Point (MP).
For every Gear Dice one on the table after a pushed roll, the Gear Bonus of the item you used drops one step.
THE SKILLS OF THE GAME

There are twelve basic skills in the game, and one specialist
skill for each role. Each skill is connected to one attribute.
Endure (Strength): When the Zone takes its toll, when your legs won't carry you any more, roll for Endure.
Force (Strength): When wreckage or debris block your way and you need to push or lift something heavy, roll for Force.
Fight (Strength): Roll for this skill when you attack someone in close combat. If you succeed, you inflict Weapon Damage. For every extra six, you inflict one more point of damage.
Sneak (Agility): To move undetected, you must make an opposed roll using your Sneak score versus your enemy's Scout score.
Move (Agility): To get out of danger or to make a difficult climb or jump, roll to Move.
Shoot (Agility): Roll for this skill when you fire a weapon at someone. If you succeed, you inflict Weapon Damage. For every extra six, you inflict one more point of damage. Each shot with a ranged weapon consumes one bullet or arrow. They also, except for some artifacts, need to be reloaded (costs one maneuver) after every shot.
Scout (Wits): When trying to spot a Sneaking enemy, roll to Scout.
Comprehend (Wits): Use this skill to understand an artifact from the Old Age.
Know the Zone (Wits): Roll for this skill to identify a monster or phenomena in the Zone, and to know its traits or effects.
Sense Emotion (Empathy): Use this skill to resist attempts to Manipulate you, or to read another person's state of mind.
Manipulate (Empathy): When trying to persuade, trick or seduce someone, roll an opposed roll using your Manipulate score against your opponent's Sense Emotion. If you win, you opponent must offer you a reasonable deal.
Heal (Empathy): Roll to get a broken friend back on his feet. Success means he recovers one attribute point.
Intimidate (Strength): Roll when you use your sheer physical presence to get someone to do what you want. If you succeed, your opponent must do what you want or immediately attack you.
CONFLICT

Conflicts are played in turns. At the beginning of the first turn, everyone who takes part rolls for initiative – a simple D6 roll. Mutations and talents can affect the roll. The initiative roll sets the action sequence for all turns in the conflict.
Actions & Maneuvers: When it's your turn, you are allowed to perform one action and one maneuver, or two maneuvers. An action can be to:
Use a skill
Activate a mutation
A maneuver can be to:
Move one range step
Seek cover
Get an item from your gear
Pick up an item from the ground
Draw a weapon
Reload a gun
TRAUMA

When you use a skill and push the roll, you can suffer trauma. This temporarily reduces the attribute score you used for the skill. If your attribute score reaches zero you are broken – unable to get up on your feet or use any skill for D6 hours or until someone Heals you. At that point, you regain one attribute point and can recover normally.
Recovery: The requirements for recovery depends on type of trauma:
Damage (trauma to Strength): Some rest and a ration of grub per trauma point.
Fatigue (trauma to Agility): Some rest and a ration of grub per trauma point.
Confusion (trauma to Wits): At least four hours of sleep.
Doubt (trauma to Empathy): A moment of closeness with another mutant. It can be a talk by the campfire, a moment of shared silence, or physical contact.

---

Now this is supposed to be a variation of those rules, so I guess we'll have to wait and see what changes. Still, seems pretty simple and elegant.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Apr 27, 2019, 05:58:28 PM


Shevvie is going to the UKGE, I'm gonna see if I can swap a bank holiday for the Friday off so I can go too. I haven't listened to the interview yet.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Mr. Clemens on Apr 27, 2019, 08:50:38 PM
Can anyone who listens detail the juicy bits here? I stop my music for no one!  :D
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: [cancerblack] on Apr 27, 2019, 09:02:08 PM
Quote from: Mr. Clemens on Apr 27, 2019, 12:09:22 PM
Quote from: Monster Man on Apr 27, 2019, 01:17:15 AM
Is this a D20 ruleset or something of their own concoction?

Googling 'Year Zero Engine', I found this (follow link for better formatting):

https://rpggeek.com/rpgsystem/43636/year-zero-engine (https://rpggeek.com/rpgsystem/43636/year-zero-engine)

QuoteHere follows a condensed version of the Year Zero Engine rules. To play, you will need a number of six-sided dice in three different colors.


USING A SKILL

To use a skill, roll a number of Skill Dice (green) equal to your skill level, and a number of Base Dice (yellow) equal to the current value of the attribute connected to the skill. If you are using gear, you also get a number of Gear Dice (black) equal to the Gear Bonus. For your action to succeed, you must roll at least one six.

Opposed Roll: When the rules call for an opposed roll, both you and your opponent roll for a skill. You need to roll more sixes than your opponent to succeed.
PUSHING YOUR ROLL

If you are desperate to succeed, you can push your roll. That means you grab all dice that didn't show ones and sixes, and roll them again. You get a new shot at rolling sixes, but ones on Base Dice and Gear Dice have special effects when you push:
For every Base Dice one on the table after a pushed roll, you suffer one point of trauma against the attribute you used for the skill. You also gain one Mutation Point (MP).
For every Gear Dice one on the table after a pushed roll, the Gear Bonus of the item you used drops one step.
THE SKILLS OF THE GAME

There are twelve basic skills in the game, and one specialist
skill for each role. Each skill is connected to one attribute.
Endure (Strength): When the Zone takes its toll, when your legs won't carry you any more, roll for Endure.
Force (Strength): When wreckage or debris block your way and you need to push or lift something heavy, roll for Force.
Fight (Strength): Roll for this skill when you attack someone in close combat. If you succeed, you inflict Weapon Damage. For every extra six, you inflict one more point of damage.
Sneak (Agility): To move undetected, you must make an opposed roll using your Sneak score versus your enemy's Scout score.
Move (Agility): To get out of danger or to make a difficult climb or jump, roll to Move.
Shoot (Agility): Roll for this skill when you fire a weapon at someone. If you succeed, you inflict Weapon Damage. For every extra six, you inflict one more point of damage. Each shot with a ranged weapon consumes one bullet or arrow. They also, except for some artifacts, need to be reloaded (costs one maneuver) after every shot.
Scout (Wits): When trying to spot a Sneaking enemy, roll to Scout.
Comprehend (Wits): Use this skill to understand an artifact from the Old Age.
Know the Zone (Wits): Roll for this skill to identify a monster or phenomena in the Zone, and to know its traits or effects.
Sense Emotion (Empathy): Use this skill to resist attempts to Manipulate you, or to read another person's state of mind.
Manipulate (Empathy): When trying to persuade, trick or seduce someone, roll an opposed roll using your Manipulate score against your opponent's Sense Emotion. If you win, you opponent must offer you a reasonable deal.
Heal (Empathy): Roll to get a broken friend back on his feet. Success means he recovers one attribute point.
Intimidate (Strength): Roll when you use your sheer physical presence to get someone to do what you want. If you succeed, your opponent must do what you want or immediately attack you.
CONFLICT

Conflicts are played in turns. At the beginning of the first turn, everyone who takes part rolls for initiative – a simple D6 roll. Mutations and talents can affect the roll. The initiative roll sets the action sequence for all turns in the conflict.
Actions & Maneuvers: When it's your turn, you are allowed to perform one action and one maneuver, or two maneuvers. An action can be to:
Use a skill
Activate a mutation
A maneuver can be to:
Move one range step
Seek cover
Get an item from your gear
Pick up an item from the ground
Draw a weapon
Reload a gun
TRAUMA

When you use a skill and push the roll, you can suffer trauma. This temporarily reduces the attribute score you used for the skill. If your attribute score reaches zero you are broken – unable to get up on your feet or use any skill for D6 hours or until someone Heals you. At that point, you regain one attribute point and can recover normally.
Recovery: The requirements for recovery depends on type of trauma:
Damage (trauma to Strength): Some rest and a ration of grub per trauma point.
Fatigue (trauma to Agility): Some rest and a ration of grub per trauma point.
Confusion (trauma to Wits): At least four hours of sleep.
Doubt (trauma to Empathy): A moment of closeness with another mutant. It can be a talk by the campfire, a moment of shared silence, or physical contact.

---

Now this is supposed to be a variation of those rules, so I guess we'll have to wait and see what changes. Still, seems pretty simple and elegant.


Sounds good, my homebrew is a d6 game too. Much more interested in having good rules associated with an authoritative "official" stamp than i am about any lore or premade missions though, i can do that bit myself just fine.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Monster Man on Apr 28, 2019, 04:23:03 AM
Very interesting, deviates from what I know in the D20 format. So lemme throw out a scenario here using these rules to see if I can grasp them --

So I want to shoot out a window on this space station I inhabit to launch my friends and I out the airlock because my character is so evil and nihilistic for absolutely no reason. In order to accomplish this I would use a maneuver to draw out my pistol, which I aim directly at window with and because I have a skill of four in my shooting I use an action to fire my pistol proccing me to roll 4D6 worth of Skill Dice. Outta the 4D6 of dice I roll only two are sixes which lands one attack with the additional point of damage from the extra die landing on a six. Now this is where it gets foggy for me; what happens to the dice that didn't land on a one or a six? Are they null and void unless I push them or do they apply to something else?

Also if surprise rounds don't exist in this system lets just say I won initiative.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Mr. Clemens on Apr 28, 2019, 11:20:57 AM
Quote from: Monster Man on Apr 28, 2019, 04:23:03 AMwhat happens to the dice that didn't land on a one or a six? Are they null and void unless I push them [...] ?

That seems to be the case. What I'm wondering is how are varying degrees of difficulty accounted for? You'd be successful if you roll at least one six to hit that window. But would you also be successful if you roll at least one six to shoot a beetle at the other end of the hangar bay?

Of course, what I quoted is just some guy's summary of the rules. I'm sure lots has been left out...
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Apr 29, 2019, 02:54:31 PM
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: FenGiddel on Apr 29, 2019, 04:57:12 PM
This sounds very tasty:

Cinematic scenarios for the ALIEN RPG will work in very much the same way as the films. But for Campaign mode, we need to flesh out the universe and present the ALIEN world of 2183 AD to you as a cohesive whole. The full game will have meaty chapters on governments, corporations, star systems, planets, colonies, and xenomorphs, as well as a beautiful star map of known space for you to explore.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Still Collating... on Apr 29, 2019, 09:51:51 PM
Oh my, that does sound nice.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Mr. Clemens on Apr 29, 2019, 10:03:54 PM
One wonders if they're gonna use anything that Leading Edge had already brainstormed for their AlienS rpg lore. I don't have a horse in that race, but it will be interesting to see (not that I remember much).

[EDIT: I like that, from the quote above, they appear to be defining 'xenomorph' properly as 'extraterrestrial life form' and not 'THE Giger Alien'.]
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: [cancerblack] on Apr 29, 2019, 10:05:18 PM
There's .pdf files of the Leading Edge one floating around if you want a refresher. Personally i don't think their fluff was any good.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: FenGiddel on Apr 29, 2019, 10:10:35 PM
I am anxious to hear from SM; his timeline breaks in 2179 and picks back up in 2294. Given his documentation of officially established events and that the RPG will be presenting "the ALIEN world of 2183", it looks like the RPG will be exploring new time, er, ground.


Further info says these two guys are involved with the writing:

Paul Elliott. Writer of campaign material such as system and mission generators, locations and adversaries. Designer of the awesome RPG Hostile.

Cam Banks. Editor. Cam is a veteran of the RPG industry, having led the development of numerous RPGs such as Smallville, Leverage, and Marvel Heroic.


Has anyone played these games to give some insight into them?
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Mr. Clemens on Apr 29, 2019, 10:10:59 PM
Quote from: [cancerblack] on Apr 29, 2019, 10:05:18 PM
There's .pdf files of the Leading Edge one floating around if you want a refresher. Personally i don't think their fluff was any good.

Hmm, I might go lookin'... even if just for a walk down memory lane. I eBayed all my Leading Edge stuff back in '05 (probably to one of you lot :D ).
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Apr 30, 2019, 08:02:12 AM
Quote from: Mr. Clemens on Apr 29, 2019, 10:10:59 PM
Quote from: [cancerblack] on Apr 29, 2019, 10:05:18 PM
There's .pdf files of the Leading Edge one floating around if you want a refresher. Personally i don't think their fluff was any good.

Hmm, I might go lookin'... even if just for a walk down memory lane. I eBayed all my Leading Edge stuff back in '05 (probably to one of you lot :D ).

It's in our Downloads section (https://www.avpgalaxy.net/downloads/): http://www.avpgalaxy.net/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2006/12/Aliens-RPG-Core-Rulebook.pdf


From the mailing list, for those that haven't signed up -

QuoteWelcome!

This is the first official newsletter for the upcoming ALIEN tabletop RPG by Free League Publishing and Twentieth Century Fox. In these updates we will be giving you insights into the development process and various aspects of the game itself. If you have questions for us, don't hesitate to visit our forums on the Free League website or follow us on Facebook.

This first issue will focus on something we already have received many questions about – the ALIEN universe itself, and how we will turn it into a game setting. But before we jump into that hot topic, we'll present the team behind the ALIEN RPG, just to let you know a little about us.

Please note that the information published in these newsletters is subject to change during the development process.

THE TEAM

Tomas Härenstam. Game director and lead rules designer. Co-founder and CEO of Free League Publishing.

Andrew E. C. Gaska. Setting writer and lead writer of introductory scenario Chariot of the Gods. Freelance franchise consultant on ALIEN for 20th Century Fox. More on Drew below!

Martin Grip. Lead artist. Co-owner and in-house artist at Free League Publishing. Known for the breathtaking art in the Coriolis and Symbaroum RPGs.

John R. Mullaney. Starship and vehicle artist. Known for his previous ALIEN work, as in the book Alien: The Weyland-Yutani Report.

Christian Granath. Graphic designer and layout artist. Co-founder and lead art director of Free League Publishing.

Nils Karlén. Social media wizard and master of random tables. Co-founder of Free League Publishing.

Paul Elliott. Writer of campaign material such as system and mission generators, locations and adversaries. Designer of the awesome RPG Hostile.

Cam Banks. Editor. Cam is a veteran of the RPG industry, having led the development of numerous RPGs such as Smallville, Leverage, and Marvel Heroic.

Joe LeFavi. Brand manager. Through his company Genuine Entertainment, Joe brokered the deal for the ALIEN RPG on behalf of Free League Publishing, and he remains a key person in our partnership with 20th Century Fox.

Brandon Bowling. Proofreader.

Jenny Bremberg. Customer support.

Anna Westerling. Event manager.

ROLEPLAYING IN THE ALIEN UNIVERSE

Most ALIEN films tell a horryfing and thrilling story with a tight focus. They generally don't reveal that much detail about the greater universe, instead leaving the viewer with largely unexplained names of locations and organizations to spark the imagination.

Cinematic scenarios for the ALIEN RPG will work in very much the same way as the films. But for Campaign mode, we need to flesh out the universe and present the ALIEN world of 2183 AD to you as a cohesive whole. The full game will have meaty chapters on governments, corporations, star systems, planets, colonies, and xenomorphs, as well as a beautiful star map of known space for you to explore.

The lead writer of the setting chapters is Andrew E. C. Gaska – author, senior development editor at Lion Forge Comics, and franchise consultant on ALIEN, Predator and Planet of the Apes for 20th Century Fox. With total attention to the minute details of the ALIEN lore from decades of movies, games, books, and comics, Drew's work is to preserve the essence of the expanded material and bring it in line with hardcore canon, filling in gaps where needed. In addition to his setting design, Drew is the lead writer of the introductory scenario Chariot of the Gods.

To compliment Drew's work, RPG designer Paul Elliott (Hostile, Zenobia) is writing systems and missions generators for the Gamemaster to use, as well as modular locations and adversaries, to make the ALIEN RPG in Campaign Mode a truly sandbox, open-world game.

The end result is a rich game universe in the deadly cold of outer space for you to explore. More details on the ALIEN RPG universe of 2183 AD will follow in later newsletters.

Stay tuned – and tell all of your friends to also sign up to this newsletter at ALIEN-RPG.COM!
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: farsightblogger on Apr 30, 2019, 09:43:29 AM
I've been following Fria Ligan for a while, I interviewed some of their creators a while ago. Last year, I ran a campaign using their Coriolis game, which uses the same game engine as the ALIEN game. It was one of the best campaigns I've played in in my 35 years of gaming, and that was down to the quality of the product.

Their design, presentation and basic passion for the hobby makes me incredibly excited for this. It's an amazing coming together of my favourite movie, game publishers and one of my favourite gaming systems.

This is going to be amazing. I'm sure of it.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: SM on Apr 30, 2019, 11:03:53 AM
Quote from: FenGiddel on Apr 29, 2019, 10:10:35 PM
I am anxious to hear from SM; his timeline breaks in 2179 and picks back up in 2294. Given his documentation of officially established events and that the RPG will be presenting "the ALIEN world of 2183", it looks like the RPG will be exploring new time, er, ground.


Further info says these two guys are involved with the writing:

Paul Elliott. Writer of campaign material such as system and mission generators, locations and adversaries. Designer of the awesome RPG Hostile.

Cam Banks. Editor. Cam is a veteran of the RPG industry, having led the development of numerous RPGs such as Smallville, Leverage, and Marvel Heroic.


Has anyone played these games to give some insight into them?

I spoke to Joe LeFavi last year and we talked about how things like continuity aren't much of a big deal with RPGs.  You set up the setting, then whatever actual events transpire  are up the game master and players.  It's going to be different every time.  We also talked about how they have access to everything from Prometheus to Resurrection in terms of licensing.  So you can set a game or campaign at any point.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: FenGiddel on May 01, 2019, 01:51:52 AM
Thanks for that. I've never played RPGs, so I'm ignorant of the gaming details. But I've often enjoyed the sourcebooks.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Xenomrph on May 01, 2019, 01:53:12 AM
The Star Wars franchise handled RPGs (video game and pencil and paper) and "canon" by saying that the broad strokes of given campaigns were "canon" (overall events, NPCs, planets, equipment), while the specific characters and their minute-to-minute interactions were not. So what we can gather from the trailer and RPG description are that things involving Aliens happen in 2183, and having any Aliens anywhere post 2179 is a mild problem for Alien Resurrection unless you start really broadly defining "for all intent and purposes" (and for the record, I'm okay with that). That, and having Aliens tucked away in myriad locations (including Engineer/Space Jockey ships) wreaks havoc with "David created the Alien". :P

Quote from: Mr. Clemens on Apr 29, 2019, 10:03:54 PM
One wonders if they're gonna use anything that Leading Edge had already brainstormed for their AlienS rpg lore.
I'd love to see that, that would be a great (and appropriate) callback for long-time fans.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: [cancerblack] on May 01, 2019, 08:55:41 PM
Just make sure there's nobody raping psychic slugs this time.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Corporal Hicks on May 06, 2019, 12:18:50 PM
QuoteWelcome!

This is the second official newsletter for the upcoming ALIEN tabletop RPG by Free League Publishing and Twentieth Century Fox. In these updates we will be giving you insights into the development process and various aspects of the game itself.

If you missed the first newsletter from last week, you can find it here. If you have questions, don't hesitate to visit our forums on the Free League website or follow us on Facebook.

This second issue will focus on Cinematic gameplay, one of the two game modes of the ALIEN RPG (the other being Campaign mode, which we will delve into next week). These two modes are each designed to create a different experience for you. Even some rules of the game only apply to one of the two game modes.

Please note that the information published in these newsletters is subject to change during the development process.

ACTS & PERSONAL AGENDAS

A Cinematic scenario emulates the dramatic arc of an ALIEN film. Designed to be played in one or a a few sessions, this game mode emphasizes high stakes and fast and brutal play. Conflict between player characters is likely, and you are not all expected to survive. Cinematic scenarios come with pre-generated characters, specifically tailored for the story.

A Cinematic scenario is divided into three Acts. For each Act, each player character is given a Personal Agenda, that is kept secret from the other players. A Personal Agenda can go against the interests of other characters or the group as a whole, but that's not always the case – the point is that you can never be sure about the motivations of the other characters.

Personal Agendas for Act 1 and Act 2 are generally carefully phrased, to avoid overt confrontations between player characters to early in the story. Act 3 Agendas tend to push characters to a climactic endgame, sometimes pitting player characters in direct confrontation against each other – just like Ripley against Ash in Alien and Burke in Aliens.

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CHARIOT OF THE GODS

One Cinematic scenario, Chariot of the Gods, is included in core rulebook. This pre-generated scenario provides all the tools necessary to run your first ALIEN roleplaying game, and it's a fun and easy way to learn how to play and tell your own stories on the Frontier.

I Chariot of the Gods, the players take the roles of the crew of the USCSS Montero starfreighter. It's designed to introduce the game to the players while at the same time take them for a thrilling, terrifying ride into space where no one can hear them scream. The scenario is designed for 3–5 players plus GM, and takes at least 4-5 hours to complete.

Chariot of the Gods is written by author Andrew E. C. Gaska, lead setting writer for the ALIEN RPG and franchise consultant on ALIEN for 20th Century Fox, with editing and added gameplay aspects by game director Tomas Härenstam.

More Cinematic scenarios will be published by Free League Publishing in the years to come. Some will be linked into longer narratives, where the outcome of one Cinematic scenario can impact the setup of the next – even if all player characters are replaced.

Stay tuned – and tell all of your friends to also sign up to this newsletter at ALIEN-RPG.COM!

/Free League Publishing

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Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: [cancerblack] on May 06, 2019, 07:44:54 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on May 06, 2019, 12:18:50 PM
Cinematic scenarios come with pre-generated characters, specifically tailored for the story.




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I understand why they did it, but I'll be skipping that part.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Mr. Clemens on May 06, 2019, 09:27:48 PM
Quote from: [cancerblack] on May 06, 2019, 07:44:54 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on May 06, 2019, 12:18:50 PM
Cinematic scenarios come with pre-generated characters, specifically tailored for the story.




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I understand why they did it, but I'll be skipping that part.

I don't know if I'm supposed to know who that is, but it's still a great photo.  :D

Still, I could see that mode being fun, in a 'How to Host a Murder' sort of way...
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: [cancerblack] on May 06, 2019, 09:33:30 PM
I think it'll be useful for folks who like Alien but have no RPG experience. My own experience tells me it's likely to become unncessary/restrictive very rapidly unless they put out new cinematic missions pretty regularly.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Corporal Hicks on May 07, 2019, 07:52:45 AM
Well they certainly seem to be intending to put more than one out. Not sure on regularity, though.


Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Apr 27, 2019, 05:58:28 PM
Shevvie is going to the UKGE, I'm gonna see if I can swap a bank holiday for the Friday off so I can go too. I haven't listened to the interview yet.

I managed to get that sorted so I'm going to go and give this a go at UKGE.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Monster Man on May 07, 2019, 11:37:45 PM
Quote from: [cancerblack] on May 06, 2019, 07:44:54 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on May 06, 2019, 12:18:50 PM
Cinematic scenarios come with pre-generated characters, specifically tailored for the story.




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I understand why they did it, but I'll be skipping that part.
Quote from: [cancerblack] on May 06, 2019, 09:33:30 PM
I think it'll be useful for folks who like Alien but have no RPG experience. My own experience tells me it's likely to become unncessary/restrictive very rapidly unless they put out new cinematic missions pretty regularly.

Probably for people who not only wanna jump into this quick one-shot, but also doubly serves the purpose of revealing what this game has to offer without investing too much time into an experience that won't last the day. Maybe for some people who can't also dedicate a lot of time into the hobby due to work or family things.

I'm sure a more experienced DM can rework these stories into more filling feasts for his group but that's something else entirely.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Corporal Hicks on May 08, 2019, 07:32:33 AM
I admit I do really love the sounds of that mode as a way to get into the format for beginners without losing a day. It's perfectly made for me.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Mr. Clemens on May 08, 2019, 12:47:00 PM
And the 'differing agendas' idea is really important. For an Alien rpg, having a bunch of players who are all "we want to be a squad of marines who shoot aliens" would, narratively, be death on wheels.

EDIT: to expand on that, of course more experienced rpgers will have their own agendas and things. But in a freeform game, having a conflicting agenda can make you 'the jerk who got Bob's character killed', whereas in this cinematic idea, you're simply playing your part to the best of your ability, because you're supposed to.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Monster Man on May 13, 2019, 04:24:31 AM
Now my real question pertains to the longevity of this game. With D&D/Pathfinder you don't really need to worry about what material you wanna throw at your players because it has quite a variety of things to choose from, story and enemy wise.

Just speaking ahead and surmising that even with the prequel material, there isn't a lot in the way of scenarios you can throw your players into. Especially not without running through the motions of adding up tension to inevitably describe what could be the 5th or 4th "first encounter" of an alien in a campaign module.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: [cancerblack] on May 13, 2019, 11:24:25 AM
Quote from: Monster Man on May 13, 2019, 04:24:31 AM
Now my real question pertains to the longevity of this game. With D&D/Pathfinder you don't really need to worry about what material you wanna throw at your players because it has quite a variety of things to choose from, story and enemy wise.

Just speaking ahead and surmising that even with the prequel material, there isn't a lot in the way of scenarios you can throw your players into. Especially not without running through the motions of adding up tension to inevitably describe what could be the 5th or 4th "first encounter" of an alien in a campaign module.

This is my concern. The "cinematic" mode is actually their greatest asset and making it a very detailed thing with defined characters is a mis-step in my opinion. It'll run out of steam without support really fast.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Corporal Hicks on May 14, 2019, 12:04:06 PM
New newsletter is out.  :)

QuoteThis is the third official newsletter for the upcoming ALIEN tabletop RPG by Free League Publishing and Twentieth Century Fox. In these updates we will be giving you insights into the development process and various aspects of the game itself.

If you missed the first two newsletters from last week, you can find #1 here and  #2 here. If you have questions, don't hesitate to visit our forums on the Free League website or follow us on Facebook.

This second issue will focus on Campaign gameplay, the second of the two game modes of the ALIEN RPG (the other being Cinematic mode, which we discussed last week). These two modes are each designed to create a different experience for you. Even some rules of the game only apply to one of the two game modes.

Please note that the information published in these newsletters is subject to change during the development process.

EXPLORING THE STARS

While Cinematic mode lets you relive the intense drama och thrill of an ALIEN movie, Campaign play lets you go deeper, exploring the darkness of space over the course of a long campaign, spanning dozens of sessions. There is a lot more to do in the ALIEN universe than fighting xenomorphs!

The key tool for Campaign play is the starmap of known space in 2183 AD. You can see a work in progress above. The map is based on the work of Scott Middlebrook, with additional work by our main setting writer and ALIEN franchise consultant Andrew E. C. Gaska, and graphic design by our Art Director Christian Granath.

The star map is divided into broad sections such as the Core Systems, the Outer Veil and the Frontier. It also indicates which areas are under the general control of the main factions of human civilization, such as the United Americas and the Three World Empire, and includes many stars, planets and colonies from the ALIEN films as well as from video games, books and comics.

The locations and factions on the map are further described in the Governments & Corporations and Systems & Planets chapters in the core game book, both written by Drew Gaska.

TOOLS FOR CAMPAIGN PLAY

Beyond the pure setting texts describing the world of 2183 AD, the ALIEN RPG core rulebook will also contain a powerful array of tools for the Gamemaster to use in Campaign play. These tools include extensive random tables to quickly create systems, planets, missions and encounters with a few dice rolls, turning the ALIEN RPG into an open-world, sandbox game. These tools are created by Free League co-founder Nils Karlén in cooperation with RPG designer Paul Elliott (Hostile, Zenobia).

Campaign play and the tools for it are built around three distinct campaign concepts, determined by the types of characters you will be playing in your campaign. The three concepts are described below.

SPACE TRUCKERS

While not as lucrative a field as it was some fifty years ago, hauling refineries and cargo between Earth and the colonies is still big business. The advent of newer and faster FTL drives has significantly shortened the travel time between worlds, ensuring that starship crews don't have to spend nearly as much time in stasis. Most companies compensate their crews not only for their work but for time lost in hypersleep as well.

While most space truckers work for one corporation or another, there are also independent trader captains, smugglers, salvage crews, and privateers. Space is big, and legally or off the books, people and things always need to get from one side of it to the other.

COLONIAL MARINES

The United States Colonial Marine Corps represents the finest fighting force ever assembled. Technologically advanced and sporting all the latest in military hardware—a large amount of which is designed by Weyland-Yutani—the Colonial Marines are able to operate independently in nearly any environment. Combat teams are cross-trained and can be deployed at a moment's notice to nearly any world without extensive briefing.

Military occupations include vehicle operators and pilots, combat technicians, heavy weapons specialists, medics, engineers, and career officers. Naval occupations are found in the USCM support service of warship and starfighter teams of the United Americas Outer Rim Defense Fleet, and there are special military R&D programs across the spectrum that require volunteers. On the Frontier, there is always something that needs defending and some planet that needs pacifying.


FRONTIER COLONISTS

To most, becoming a colonist means you accept a hard life with little reward other than the satisfaction of a job well done. A colonist's hands are always dirty and their feet are always tired. Living on the edge of civilization can have its benefits, however. Depending on your profession, the chance to strike it big could be right around the corner. Frontier Colonists are scouts and homesteaders, farmers and scientists, miners and doctors. Colonial Marshals keep the peace and Frontier journalists keep the colonies in the know. Colonists are the lifeblood of humanity.

Stay tuned – and tell all of your friends to also sign up to this newsletter at ALIEN-RPG.COM!

/Free League Publishing


There's also a map on there. Can't zoom in well but there's a couple of factions in here.

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Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Mr. Clemens on May 14, 2019, 03:50:09 PM
Hope they make a pdf available. The binding's gonna run right down the middle of that sucker.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Monster Man on May 15, 2019, 12:54:39 AM
Yo they got the UPP!

Now I know what my players will be doing

Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: SM on May 15, 2019, 01:09:50 AM
OG.  ;D (https://alientimeline.files.wordpress.com/2018/03/galmap2018.jpg)

I really should sign up to that newsletter in which they talk about me.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Local Trouble on May 15, 2019, 01:49:53 AM
What did they say?
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: SM on May 15, 2019, 02:44:41 AM
As in mention my name.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Mr. Clemens on May 15, 2019, 02:46:48 AM
Quote from: SM on May 15, 2019, 02:44:41 AM
As in mention my name.

Figured that was you, but wasn't gonna say anything.  :P

EDIT: the number of typos/grammatical errors in those newsletters is concerning. If you've got a line to those guys, you might want to suggest they pass 'em around the office one more time before sending them out.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: SM on May 15, 2019, 04:04:40 AM
They're Swedish so perhaps English is the second language of the writer?

Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Local Trouble on May 15, 2019, 04:48:26 AM
Crazy Swedes?
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: SM on May 15, 2019, 06:57:15 AM
I wouldn't resort to such ableist terms.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: SiL on May 15, 2019, 07:24:54 AM
Quote from: Local Trouble on May 15, 2019, 04:48:26 AM
Crazy Swedes?
They're Norwegians, Mac.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Corporal Hicks on May 15, 2019, 08:16:11 AM
Quote from: SM on May 15, 2019, 04:04:40 AM
They're Swedish so perhaps English is the second language of the writer?

Yeah, I figured that was the case with the newsletter too. 


Quote from: SM on May 15, 2019, 01:09:50 AM
I really should sign up to that newsletter in which they talk about me.

They're viewable online too.

https://mailchi.mp/2dcd5c3c14b9/alien-rpg-news-letter-1-building-better-worlds?mc_cid=a77d7382a6&mc_eid=8becb4d032
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: SM on May 15, 2019, 10:05:35 AM
Cheers.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Corporal Hicks on May 16, 2019, 02:05:12 PM
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: FenGiddel on May 18, 2019, 04:10:22 PM
Next up: "Tales from the Outer Veil"
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Corporal Hicks on May 22, 2019, 05:20:20 PM
QuoteWelcome!

This is the fourth official newsletter for the upcoming ALIEN tabletop RPG by Free League Publishing and Twentieth Century Fox. And we have big news!

On May 25, 1979, ALIEN first graced the silver screen. Forty years to the day after the ALIEN franchise first inspired and shocked the world, we launch the official pre-order for the game at alien-rpg.com. This exclusive pre-order starts at 6 am PST / 9 am EST / 3 pm CEST Saturday May 25, and will end on August 4.

The full printed game will launch late this year, but if you pre-order you don't need to wait to play! As a complimentary bonus gift for anyone who pre-orders via our webshop, we offer a meaty 168-page Cinematic Starter Kit PDF including the full-length Cinematic scenario Chariot of the Gods written by Alien RPG setting writer and sci-fi novelist Andrew E.C. Gaska. The Cinematic Starter Kit will be available for download via DrivethruRPG as soon as the pre-order purchase is confirmed.

In addition, anyone who pre-orders the core rulebook will have the opportunity to provide feedback on the game before it goes to print and earn a play-tester credit in the final publication.

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PRE-ORDER OFFERS

The centerpiece of the pre-order is of course the Alien RPG Core Rulebook containing 300+ pages of mythology, original artwork, and custom mechanics for open-world campaigns as well as cinematic gameplay, based on our award-winning Year Zero game engine.

In addition to the core rulebook, we offer a deluxe GM Screen, custom dice, a large starmap, and custom cards for weapons, NPCs and combat initiative. If you want to go all-in, we will offer bundles at great value.

If you want a unique artifact, we will offer the 40th Anniversary Limited Edition Core Rulebook, with a special commemorative embossed book cover. Exclusive to this pre-order campaign, the 40th Anniversary Limited-Edition will never be printed again. You can see the design below.

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WHY PRE-ORDER?

In the past, we have done many Kickstarters to fund the development of our roleplaying games. This a pre-order, meaning that the game will be published no matter how many people take part in it. However, there are three good reasons to take part in this-preorder:

    You get the 168-page Cinematic Starter Kit PDF within days after purchase and can start playing immediately!
    By taking part in the pre-order you can provide feedback on the game before the core rulebook goes to print, and thereby help us making the game even more awesome.
    A big support for the pre-order will help us kick off development of modules and supplements for the game even sooner.

More information about the pre-order, including the pricing, will be revealed on Saturday.

Retailer? Official retail solicitations for the ALIEN roleplaying game and supplements will begin in July, but retailers are encouraged to contact us at info@frialigan.se with any questions to welcome them into the 40th Anniversary fun as well.

Missed the previous newsletters? If you missed the first three newsletters, you can find #1 here, #2 here and #3 here. If you have questions or thoughts on the ALIEN RPG, don't hesitate to visit our forums on the Free League website or follow us on Facebook.

/Free League Publishing

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Some extra details:

QuoteSTANDARD EDITION includes the Alien RPG Core Rulebook in a hardcover format with
    approximately 300 full-color pages of beautiful artwork and complete game rules for both the
    Cinematic and long-term Campaign game modes. A PDF of the book is included. Price: $49.99

    STANDARD BUNDLE includes the standard Alien RPG Core Rulebook, along with a deluxe
    gamemaster screen, two sets of custom dice (one set of 10 Base Dice and one set of 10 Stress Dice), a
    set of 50 custom cards (for initiative, weapons, and NPCs), and a set of useful maps and markers. A
    PDF of the book is included. Price: $99.99 ($50 discount on the total retail price)

    40th ANNIVERSARY LIMITED-EDITION offers the Alien RPG Core Rulebook with a special
    commemorative book cover. Exclusive to this pre-order campaign, the 40th Anniversary LimitedEdition will never be printed again. A PDF of the book is included. Price: $89.99

    40th ANNIVERSARY BUNDLE includes the Alien RPG 40th Anniversary Limited-Edition Core
    Rulebook, along with the deluxe gamemaster screen, two sets of custom dice (one set of 10 Base Dice
    and one set of 10 Stress Dice), a set of 50 custom cards (for initiative, weapons, and NPCs), and a set
    of useful maps and markers. A PDF of the book is included. Price: $139.99

    THE COMPANY SPECIAL EDITION includes everything from the 40th Anniversary LimitedEdition Bundle, as well as signatures from the Free League team on both the commemorative cover
    and a Limited-Edition 27" X 40" poster of the Alien RPG cover art by Martin Grip. Price: $249.99

Fans can also customize their own package with individually priced add-ons:

    RPG Core Rulebook Standard Edition: $49.99
    RPG Core Rulebook – 40th Anniversary Limited-Edition: $89.99
    GM Screen: $24.99
    Base Dice Set: $19.99
    Stress Dice Set: $19.99
    Card Deck: $14.99
    Maps & Markers: $19.99

https://www.bleedingcool.com/2019/05/22/free-league-gearing-up-for-alien-rpg-pre-orders-with-free-cinematic-starter/
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: [cancerblack] on May 22, 2019, 07:32:31 PM
I'm going to try to get a peek at someone else's PDF upon pre order, coz if I like it enough I'll swing for the $99.99 version - but I'd not do it sight-unseen.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Mr. Clemens on May 22, 2019, 09:28:08 PM
I'm in for the Standard Bundle. I'll likely never play the game, but I want this stuff on my shelf.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Monster Man on May 23, 2019, 03:01:53 AM
Gonna have to stop myself from impulse buying the $250 deal. Even if the stuff it offers sounds cool, I don't think a TTRPG is worth that much.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Xenomrph on May 25, 2019, 04:52:21 PM
I'm dropping the coin on the $100 bundle. I doublt I'll play it which makes the GM screen and dice superfluous, but I'm interested in the map and cards.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: FenGiddel on May 25, 2019, 10:26:13 PM
Yeah, the map. So it doesn't come with the standard edition? (The 100-dollar bundle's "helpful maps" description seems to indicate something other than that big map...)
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Xenomrph on May 25, 2019, 11:42:05 PM
Quote from: FenGiddel on May 25, 2019, 10:26:13 PM
Yeah, the map. So it doesn't come with the standard edition? (The 100-dollar bundle's "helpful maps" description seems to indicate something other than that big map...)
It looks like the standard edition is only the book itself.

Also I noticed that the map includes a section of space controlled by the UPP (from one of the Alien3 script drafts), that's a nice touch. ;D
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: FenGiddel on May 26, 2019, 12:17:49 AM
Yes, it is. That's right out of Gibson's script, isn't it?
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Xenomrph on May 26, 2019, 01:32:12 AM
Yep, they also show up in the Nintendo DS game "Aliens: Infestation".
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Mr. Clemens on May 26, 2019, 09:00:13 PM
Pre-ordered the Standard Bundle, which works out to $144 Canadian, including shipping.

Looking forward to reading it!
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Corporal Hicks on May 27, 2019, 08:08:23 AM
Quote from: FenGiddel on May 25, 2019, 10:26:13 PM
Yeah, the map. So it doesn't come with the standard edition? (The 100-dollar bundle's "helpful maps" description seems to indicate something other than that big map...)

You can buy the map separately: https://frialigan.se/en/store/?product_id=3687330316336

I've got to wait until tomorrow but then I'll be picking up Anniversary bundle!
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Mr. Clemens on May 27, 2019, 10:05:36 AM
I'll bet the map is in the book too, but again, partially obscured by the binding, like FFG's Star Wars rpg.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: RidgeTop on May 27, 2019, 10:11:18 AM
That artwork is pronominal, think I'll be picking this set up. I've never really gotten into table top RPG's, the massive rule-books just always seemed a bit intimidating. I assume people are looking up rules in-game plenty?
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Xenomrph on May 27, 2019, 10:31:51 AM
Quote from: RidgeTop on May 27, 2019, 10:11:18 AM
That artwork is pronominal, think I'll be picking this set up. I've never really gotten into table top RPG's, the massive rule-books just always seemed a bit intimidating. I assume people are looking up rules in-game plenty?
If it's anything like tabletop wargames, then people are looking up rules in-game non stop. :P You aren't expected to memorize the rulebook (but you can if you want to).
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Corporal Hicks on May 27, 2019, 12:48:27 PM
QuoteThis is the sixth official newsletter for the upcoming ALIEN tabletop RPG by Free League Publishing and Twentieth Century Fox.

After the start of the pre-order at ALIEN-RPG.COM Saturday, we have now sent out the first wave of Cinematic Starter Kit PDFs to everyone who pre-ordered so far. And the response has been pretty great! Some early reactions:

"Alien by @FriaLigan is a delight so far, setting the stage for a universe set just after the events of Alien 3. Themes of corporatism and uncertainty at the far edge of space."

"Very nice change of pace from D&D and it'll be interesting to see my friends squirm under what is DEFINITELY a more brutal game."

"This is absolutely and utterly fantastic. It is all wonderfully well written and crafted. The art work is wonderful as well."

We'll send out a new wave every day if we can, so if you're eager to get your hands on this space beast asap, pre-order at ALIEN-RPG.COM now!

THE FEEDBACK FORM
By taking part in the pre-order you can also provide feedback on the game before the core rulebook goes to print, and thereby help us making the game even more awesome – and be credited as an official playtester.

There is a link to a feedback form inside the Starter Kit PDF itself, but it seems many of are having trouble accessing the link. If so, please try this direct link instead.

Other Questions about the Pre-Order? You're welcome to our forum, dedicated to the ALIEN RPG and our other games.

TRY THE GAME AT UK GAME EXPO

At the UK Game Expo in Birmingham this coming weekend, you have the opportunity to try out the ALIEN RPG at the official Free League booth, #1-598. Come by to chat with the designers and sign up to try out the unique demo scenario run by Matt and Dave from the awesome Coriolis Effect podcast!

Missed the previous newsletters? If you missed our previous newsletters about the ALIEN RPG, you can find them here – and don't forget to sign up for future issues! If you have questions or thoughts on the ALIEN RPG, don't hesitate to visit our forums on the Free League website or follow us on Facebook.

/Free League Publishing

https://mailchi.mp/5c86d23a203b/first-wave-of-alien-rpg-cinematic-starter-kits-sent
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: farsightblogger on May 27, 2019, 04:30:05 PM
I've got my hands on the Starter Kit and I'm making my way through it now.

It's got a history, from Weyland's TED talk to post Fiorina 161 (there's a cult surrounding survivor Morse and his book 'Space Beast' he wrote about whathappened, which is really cool), and it not only covers the alien but also the governments, corporations and factions.

It's giving the players a chance to play the horror of Alien, the action of Aliens or the mystery of Prometheus. If you wanted to do something that doesn't involve the alien and stick to some corporate craziness - like Outland - then that's cool, too. There are plenty of options for all kinds of games.

I'll be starting the rules soon, but up to yet I'm loving what I'm seeing. They're based on the system they uses for Tales from the Loop and Coriolis and it works well, but it's not the full rules as they're leaving some of it for the full rulebook. However, I ran a Coriolis campaign last year and the system handles dark sci-fi really well, so I think this'll be a good fit.

Additional: Also, the GM is called the 'Game Mother'. Brilliant!
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Xenomrph on May 28, 2019, 12:38:41 AM
I got the PDF and I've been skimming through it, it's pretty neat so far. The thing is, I hate reading books on my computer so I'm likely going to wait for the print edition before I really dive deep into anything.

I'm still really hoping that they crib from the old Leading Edge RPG.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Corporal Hicks on May 28, 2019, 07:23:17 AM
I ended up ordering the standard bundle over the anniversary bundle. Just prefer the original artwork.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Mr. Clemens on May 28, 2019, 09:01:53 PM
Quote from: Xenomrph on May 28, 2019, 12:38:41 AM
The thing is, I hate reading books on my computer so I'm likely going to wait for the print edition before I really dive deep into anything.

I'm the same, so I'm gonna have Staples print me a copy and coil bind it.

And yeah, that Anniversary Edition looks pretty bland compared to the Standard!
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: FenGiddel on May 29, 2019, 12:11:16 AM
I'd love to get a rolled map...
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Xenomrph on May 29, 2019, 01:23:10 AM
Quote from: Mr. Clemens on May 28, 2019, 09:01:53 PM
Quote from: Xenomrph on May 28, 2019, 12:38:41 AM
The thing is, I hate reading books on my computer so I'm likely going to wait for the print edition before I really dive deep into anything.

I'm the same, so I'm gonna have Staples print me a copy and coil bind it.

And yeah, that Anniversary Edition looks pretty bland compared to the Standard!
Let me know how much that ends up costing you, maybe I'll do the same thing.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Mr. Clemens on May 29, 2019, 01:04:13 PM
Quote from: Xenomrph on May 29, 2019, 01:23:10 AM
Quote from: Mr. Clemens on May 28, 2019, 09:01:53 PM
Quote from: Xenomrph on May 28, 2019, 12:38:41 AM
The thing is, I hate reading books on my computer so I'm likely going to wait for the print edition before I really dive deep into anything.

I'm the same, so I'm gonna have Staples print me a copy and coil bind it.

And yeah, that Anniversary Edition looks pretty bland compared to the Standard!
Let me know how much that ends up costing you, maybe I'll do the same thing.

Just placed my order. Printed b&w, double-sided, on regular 20lb bond with cardstock covers and coil bound was $33.87 Canadian, tax in.  :)
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Nostromo on May 29, 2019, 05:54:24 PM
Really awesome cover, feel like buying it just for that reason alone.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Monster Man on May 29, 2019, 09:53:54 PM
Reading through this stuff, everything seems fine. Everything except how movement is covered. Ordinarily something like D&D uses a grid along with 5-foot increments to measure a characters movement within' a round. This mentions something about zones and the like, kinda weird.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Dachande on May 30, 2019, 12:19:04 AM
Quote from: Monster Man on May 29, 2019, 09:53:54 PM
Reading through this stuff, everything seems fine. Everything except how movement is covered. Ordinarily something like D&D uses a grid along with 5-foot increments to measure a characters movement within' a round. This mentions something about zones and the like, kinda weird.

Outside of D&D and Pathfinder, i think rules for movement can vary. I know the Star Wars themed RPG's don't use grid based combat, and just have different distance measurements, the same for the Legend of the Five Rings RPG, and The One Ring. It depends on the game and the DM playing the game, i've had D&D sessions where you don't need a map for combat, it just makes it easier.

Reading through the Starter Guide, and just envisioning how the game could play, i don't think it would really work too well to use a grid based combat system in an Alien universe, where generally speaking you aren't really going to be fighting lots of enemies at once, and if you are, you're probably pretty screwed.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Mr. Clemens on May 30, 2019, 02:23:09 AM
I'm always happy to dump the grid in RPGs. People counting squares is a real tension-killer.  :P

I do love me some miniatures as a visual aid, but I find putting 'em on a grid strips back the drama.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: SM on May 30, 2019, 05:59:16 AM
Back in my playing days we never used a physical board or grid.

Got the PDF today, but haven't had a chance to have a read yet.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Dachande on May 30, 2019, 11:33:28 PM
Quote from: Mr. Clemens on May 30, 2019, 02:23:09 AM
I'm always happy to dump the grid in RPGs. People counting squares is a real tension-killer.  :P

I do love me some miniatures as a visual aid, but I find putting 'em on a grid strips back the drama.

I'm gonna be quite happy using the Board and Minis from Nemesis, I think that will work great
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: [cancerblack] on May 31, 2019, 09:10:08 PM
Quote from: Dachande on May 30, 2019, 11:33:28 PM
Quote from: Mr. Clemens on May 30, 2019, 02:23:09 AM
I'm always happy to dump the grid in RPGs. People counting squares is a real tension-killer.  :P

I do love me some miniatures as a visual aid, but I find putting 'em on a grid strips back the drama.

I'm gonna be quite happy using the Board and Minis from Nemesis, I think that will work great


Didn't get the Prodos stuff while it was around?
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: SM on May 31, 2019, 10:48:25 PM
Read about half of it so far.  Doubt I'll get an opportunity to play it, but from I've read so far they seem to have a really good handle on the tone.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Local Trouble on Jun 01, 2019, 03:50:33 AM
Does it recycle any of the technical errata from the CMTM?
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Monster Man on Jun 01, 2019, 04:09:22 AM
Quote from: Local Trouble on Jun 01, 2019, 03:50:33 AM
Does it recycle any of the technical errata from the CMTM?

It seems like they're incorporating a lot of elements in and out of "canon".

Spoiler
They even got the Babyhead (https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/avp/images/b/b1/Shwa_babyhead.jpeg/revision/latest?cb=20170303191131). Here's hoping for an Ultramorph (https://static1.squarespace.com/static/55700995e4b004b17331e6c5/55700ab2e4b02df4ffd62758/589fcf7e2e69cf7248dfe38b/1486868488266/Ultramorph+1.jpg?format=1500w).
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Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: SM on Jun 01, 2019, 08:29:31 AM
Quote from: Local Trouble on Jun 01, 2019, 03:50:33 AM
Does it recycle any of the technical errata from the CMTM?

What specifically?
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Local Trouble on Jun 01, 2019, 09:55:27 AM
Sulaco size and speed, etc.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: SM on Jun 01, 2019, 10:10:34 AM
Doesn't have that kind of detail.  That stuff will probably be in the full game when it's released at the end of the year.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Local Trouble on Jun 01, 2019, 12:00:44 PM
How long until they pollute this thing with a Predator supplement?
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: SM on Jun 01, 2019, 12:27:06 PM
There's no plans as far as I know. When I spoke to them - long time ago now - they had access to anything with Alien in the title as well as Prometheus.

Being an RPG, players can make up their own Predator stats and use it in a game if they wanted to.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Jun 01, 2019, 02:24:27 PM
I doubt we'll see Predator for a long time, if at all. When I was helping out with the odd bit and bob, I asked about if AvP related stuff was wanted and it wasn't.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Samhain13 on Jun 01, 2019, 05:26:27 PM
Quote from: Local Trouble on Jun 01, 2019, 12:00:44 PM
How long until they pollute this thing with a Predator supplement?

This thing does need some gains after all.

(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0025/2805/1251/products/1528227168801_775x.png?v=1528227243)
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Local Trouble on Jun 01, 2019, 07:16:24 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jun 01, 2019, 02:24:27 PM
I doubt we'll see Predator for a long time, if at all. When I was helping out with the odd bit and bob, I asked about if AvP related stuff was wanted and it wasn't.

That's good news, but it sure is surprising to me.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Dachande on Jun 01, 2019, 11:20:21 PM
Quote from: [cancerblack] on May 31, 2019, 09:10:08 PM
Quote from: Dachande on May 30, 2019, 11:33:28 PM
Quote from: Mr. Clemens on May 30, 2019, 02:23:09 AM
I'm always happy to dump the grid in RPGs. People counting squares is a real tension-killer.  :P

I do love me some miniatures as a visual aid, but I find putting 'em on a grid strips back the drama.

I'm gonna be quite happy using the Board and Minis from Nemesis, I think that will work great


Didn't get the Prodos stuff while it was around?

I'm not a huge fan of Miniatures games, so apart from it being AvP I wasn't too interested. Granted having an Alien mini or 2 for this would be great.

Although the nemesis ones will make perfectly good stand ins, they even have their own lifecycle
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: maron on Jun 03, 2019, 02:36:10 PM
When you are more excited for a table top game than another movie.  ;D
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Jun 04, 2019, 08:30:17 AM
https://www.effektpodcast.org/episodes/alien-hope-s-last-stand-part-1
https://www.effektpodcast.org/episodes/alien-hope-s-last-stand-part-2
https://www.effektpodcast.org/episodes/alien-hope-s-last-stand-part-3

Gameplay of the preview from UKGE. I'm halfway through the first part and it sounds like the specific scenario Shevvie and I played (they did 3 different ones around Hadley's Hope). Hoping to get a preview written up soon.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Kailem on Jun 04, 2019, 08:50:45 AM
Nice, I'll be giving those a listen for sure. I'll never play it (nobody to play it with), but this looks awesome. Very much looking forward to watching all the inevitable Youtube playthroughs when it's released.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: SM on Jun 04, 2019, 08:58:31 AM
I finished reading the PDF rule book, and though it's a cut down version of what will eventually be released, it's very solid.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Jun 04, 2019, 01:08:16 PM
Space is vast, dark, and not your friend: A review of the Cinematic Starter Kit for the Alien RPG (https://www.geeknative.com/66281/space-is-vast-dark-and-not-your-friend-a-review-of-the-cinematic-starter-kit-for-the-alien-rpg/)

QuoteOverall
I'm very impressed with Cinematic Starter Kit for the Alien RPG. It'll be a great way to learn the game and an acceptable way to pass the time while we wait for the main book to hit the printers.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Jun 05, 2019, 08:10:46 AM
https://www.avpgalaxy.net/website/articles/hopes-last-stand-uk-games-expo-preview-of-alien-the-roleplaying-game/

A short write-up of my experience at the UKGE demo session.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Mr. Clemens on Jun 05, 2019, 04:59:02 PM
A note to anyone who may be having this pdf professionally printed and bound, like I did:

The pagination is messed up. Specifically, odd-numbered pages are on the left and even-numbered pages are on the right, which is the reverse of what should be. This means that two-page art spreads instead wrap around a page turn, as does the timeline. It doesn't mean the book can't be read, but it is annoying.

So if you're gonna get it printed double-sided, have them either add a blank page after the title page, or have them remove the credits page, and then everything will line up like it should.  :)
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: [cancerblack] on Jun 05, 2019, 07:00:38 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jun 05, 2019, 08:10:46 AM
https://www.avpgalaxy.net/website/articles/hopes-last-stand-uk-games-expo-preview-of-alien-the-roleplaying-game/

A short write-up of my experience at the UKGE demo session.


When you get round to recording a few sessions, I'd be very interested helping or participating, if at all possible. Sorting out fun, concise Alien RPG experiences is kinda my thing.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Jun 06, 2019, 01:04:34 PM
#7 – THE HIVE IS GROWING (https://mailchi.mp/93eeed260755/join-the-hive-the-community-for-the-alien-rpg-is-growing-fast?e=8becb4d032)

QuoteHello! This is the seventh official newsletter for the upcoming ALIEN tabletop RPG by Free League Publishing and Twentieth Century Fox.

The pre-order at ALIEN-RPG.COM has now been running for over a week, and we have sent out Cinematic Starter Kit PDFs to hundreds of players. The response has been great so far – here's a full review from GeekNative.

What's even more awesome is the awesome community that's quickly growing around the game. Already, players are sharing ideas, advice and amazing resources with each other. This is something we highly encourage, and we'd like to take this opportunity to give you an overview of some great places to go online:

The inofficial Facebook group called "ALIEN RPG by Free League" is probably the most active place right now. There, you can already find resources like form-fillable character sheets, printer-friendly sheets, digital dice rollers, and much, much more.

You're also very welcome to official forums on the Free League website. That's a great place for questions on the rules and setting, and for posting feedback on the Starter Kit PDF, as it's actively monitored by us.

There is also a pretty active subreddit and Mewe dedicated to the game, as well a Discord dedicated to ALIEN and other games based on the Year Zero Engine.

You are all very welcome to come the Hive and join the conversation! And remember – keep it friendly. :)

Not pre-ordered yet? Hurry over to ALIEN-RPG.COM right now!
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Kailem on Jun 06, 2019, 06:55:47 PM
Does the game include any other maps besides the galaxy one? The description says maps plural, but none of the pictures I've seen show any of the other ones (and I'm assuming those Hadley's Hope layout ones will only be included if that scenario is).
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: SM on Jun 06, 2019, 09:07:42 PM
The PDF version only includes a couple of ship layouts.  Not sure what maps will be in the full version.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: FenGiddel on Jun 06, 2019, 11:56:22 PM
Did you just write ship layouts?   :o :o :o
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Jun 07, 2019, 07:09:21 AM
I believe the maps pack also includes the ship layouts. I'm sure I read that in the product description.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: skhellter on Jun 07, 2019, 09:24:48 PM
The "Cronus" ship from the Chariots of the Gods scenario has good detailed layouts of all four decks.
It's a heliades class ship, Prometheus equivalent.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Jun 08, 2019, 04:45:24 PM



Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: SM on Jun 08, 2019, 10:24:14 PM
Quote from: skhellter on Jun 07, 2019, 09:24:48 PM
The "Cronus" ship from the Chariots of the Gods scenario has good detailed layouts of all four decks.
It's a heliades class ship, Prometheus equivalent.

I screencapped a ton of stuff from Prometheus a while back in order to try and map it.  Since it has multiple levels, but the crew only ever seem to inhabit one in the film and there's a distinct lack of stairs, I suspect the RPG one will make more sense.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: FenGiddel on Jun 08, 2019, 10:27:39 PM
Aren't you just the industrious Alien fan, you...
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: SM on Jun 09, 2019, 02:24:22 AM
I didn't get that far beyond the screencapping bit, so not that industrious.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: skhellter on Jun 09, 2019, 02:26:00 AM
Quote from: SM on Jun 08, 2019, 10:24:14 PM
Quote from: skhellter on Jun 07, 2019, 09:24:48 PM
The "Cronus" ship from the Chariots of the Gods scenario has good detailed layouts of all four decks.
It's a heliades class ship, Prometheus equivalent.

I screencapped a ton of stuff from Prometheus a while back in order to try and map it.  Since it has multiple levels, but the crew only ever seem to inhabit one in the film and there's a distinct lack of stairs, I suspect the RPG one will make more sense.

There's stairs in the Cronus.  :laugh:
It's not 1:1 with the Prometheus, of course. The "corporate suite" is definitely not like Vickers' and there's no basketball court for starters.
But it is coherent with itself and very detailed.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: SM on Jun 09, 2019, 02:48:08 AM
Yeah the Cronus makes more sense than the movie set.  The Prometheus concept art had a lot of pieces with stairs and elevators.

The main hatch for the lifeboat on Prometheus on the other hand is in a odd position at the stern of the ship.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Local Trouble on Jun 09, 2019, 01:55:49 PM
I assume the Cronus is a ship?
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Kailem on Jun 09, 2019, 02:12:51 PM
Yeah it's one of the ships in the Chariot of the Gods cinematic campaign. The brief description in the review Hicks linked to a couple of pages back describes the premise thusly:

"The starfreighter USCSS Montero has been diverted to check out the distress beacon from the USCSS Cronus. The Cronus is a science ship that has been missing for nearly a century."
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: FenGiddel on Jun 11, 2019, 12:30:00 AM
I saw this fella's Tweet (https://twitter.com/bwholland/status/1136930960337883136?s=21) today.

Do you notice a similarity between my old A-Deck plan...

(https://thenostromofilesblog.files.wordpress.com/2018/07/a_deck_callouts-bathroom-closeup1.png)




(https://thenostromofilesblog.files.wordpress.com/2017/06/a_deck_callouts.gif)


and Fria Ligan's deck plan sheet?

(https://thenostromofilesblog.files.wordpress.com/2019/06/5c3e2b63-3e56-4fc9-8056-7490d63f748e.jpeg)

(https://thenostromofilesblog.files.wordpress.com/2019/06/0257977e-0102-4d6e-9105-c261d0aee24d.jpeg)



They've done a nice job, dressing it up. You might also note that when I drew the plans back in the late 90s, my site was hosted on a Swedish server.  How cool is that?
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: SM on Jun 11, 2019, 01:13:05 AM
Even some of the labels (eg. tankage, hyperdrive machinery space) are verbatim.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Jun 11, 2019, 10:22:03 AM
Keeping your character alive: Tomas Härenstam talks about the Alien RPG
(https://www.geeknative.com/66585/keeping-your-character-alive-tomas-harenstam-talks-about-the-alien-rpg/)
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Jun 17, 2019, 02:45:42 PM
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: The Old One on Jun 17, 2019, 03:31:58 PM
Absolutely loving the sound of it.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Jun 19, 2019, 07:33:58 AM
#8 – A HARD LIFE AMONGST THE STARS (https://mailchi.mp/ecaf19e96aef/a-hard-life-amongst-the-stars?e=8becb4d032)

QuoteBehind the scenes, we're working very hard on the full rulebook, and we expect to be able to share a Beta PDF of whole thing with you in a few weeks. The full game contains lots of material beyond the Cinematic Starter Kit, mostly focused on fleshing out the ALIEN universe for Campaign play.

One really meaty chapter of the full rulebook deals with life in space in 2183 AD, and a big part of that chapter is focused on something every self-respecting sci-fi RPG needs – spaceships. The rulebook will include comprehensive rules for starships, how to modify and upgrade them – and how to fight fast and brutal battles with them.

Several now iconic starships known from the ALIEN films, such as the Nostromo and the Sulaco. To bring these to life, artist John R. Mullaney has created amazing schematic illustratons of these and other space (and ground) vessels. Check out his designs below – in the printed game you'll see them in full size and detailed glory! John's own thoughts on the process:

"I'm thrilled to have been asked to collaborate with Free League and contribute these new artworks to their Alien RPG. My background is in producing full perspective & cross-section artworks of ships from various franchises, and this latest project has enabled me to apply those same 3D techniques to 2D elevations - an illustrative approach which has yet to be applied to the ships from the ALIEN universe. Thanks to the help of the fan community, I was able to acquire and closely study photos of the original miniatures as my primary reference. By then employing a hybrid style of watercolour and Photoshop, I have strived to make each artwork as screen-accurate as the reference allows. I hope the fanbase enjoys these artworks as much as I've enjoyed creating them."
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: The Old One on Jun 19, 2019, 10:42:24 AM
Yes! Awesome!
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Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Still Collating... on Jun 19, 2019, 11:58:30 AM
The world building in this game is awesome from what I've seen in these previews. Very tempting. I've never played an RPG like this in my life, but maybe alien will be my introduction into this genre
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: The Old One on Jun 19, 2019, 12:24:40 PM
It'll be mine.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Mr. Clemens on Jun 19, 2019, 09:28:55 PM
I'm rapidly becoming enamoured with Cinematic Mode. Fighting aliens for weeks/months on end with the same character in Campaign Mode seems pretty daft, to be honest. More fun to play your character to the hilt because you know he/she probably isn't going to survive the night, anyway.  :D
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: The1PerfectOrganism on Jun 19, 2019, 09:34:22 PM
I think the game ensures you don't last months, even for campaign.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Jun 20, 2019, 07:13:22 AM
I think the campaign mode is showing that there is more to the universe than just the Aliens.
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Post by: Still Collating... on Jun 20, 2019, 12:48:48 PM
Another video of the game, a longer session of 4 hours. Really liking the look of this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvy9fNHbdSI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvy9fNHbdSI)
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Post by: FenGiddel on Jun 21, 2019, 03:02:59 AM
I am really digging that Montero playing field...
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Post by: Corporal Hicks on Jun 22, 2019, 08:11:26 AM
Clara, RidgeTop and I played the first act and a bit with Shevvie as Muthur last night. For my first long (like 3 hours) bit of RPG gaming, I really dug it!
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Post by: Still Collating... on Jun 22, 2019, 11:26:10 AM
Nice! If ever possible, I'd love to see you guys eventually make a playthrough video of the game.
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Post by: Still Collating... on Jun 23, 2019, 01:23:54 PM
More videos! I'm glad this is getting attention. Haven't watched them yet. They're on my to do list though.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQZ6pdbJIec (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQZ6pdbJIec)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W2aS3-sZkpc (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W2aS3-sZkpc)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7HgtFTfWPlw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7HgtFTfWPlw)
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Post by: Corporal Hicks on Jun 23, 2019, 02:35:26 PM
Quote from: Still Collating... on Jun 22, 2019, 11:26:10 AM
Nice! If ever possible, I'd love to see you guys eventually make a playthrough video of the game.

That's the plan eventually!
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Post by: Corporal Hicks on Jun 27, 2019, 06:54:55 PM
http://www.enworld.org/forum/content.php?6391-Interview-with-Tomas-H%E4renstam-(Free-League%92s-ALIEN-RPG)
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Post by: Still Collating... on Jun 30, 2019, 04:51:10 PM
The continuation of one of the last vids.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mLwcmU3r_p0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mLwcmU3r_p0)
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Post by: The Old One on Jul 02, 2019, 08:54:34 PM
So hyped, for a great Christmas present.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: [cancerblack] on Jul 02, 2019, 10:14:40 PM
So Old One are we playing this online or what?
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: The Old One on Jul 02, 2019, 11:20:14 PM
I don't know yet.
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Post by: RidgeTop on Jul 06, 2019, 07:00:48 PM
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Post by: Kailem on Jul 06, 2019, 07:15:38 PM
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Post by: Still Collating... on Jul 07, 2019, 06:11:19 PM
This one was really nice, the custom setting worked well. I'm having so much fun watching these playthroughs.
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Post by: Monster Man on Jul 08, 2019, 11:58:17 PM
Currently I'm running this for my crew and everyones liking thus far. Although I gotta say, this ain't no 4-5 hour module, it's been two long sessions with a third one coming up.
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Post by: Corporal Hicks on Jul 16, 2019, 08:09:23 AM
Turns out the scenarios that ran at the UK Game's Expo as demos are also being used at GenCon and are now being included in the core book.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: [cancerblack] on Jul 16, 2019, 09:53:37 PM
Mild anxiety over not having pre-ordered yet. That last Prodos sale kinda f**ked up my disposable.


Quote from: Monster Man on Jul 08, 2019, 11:58:17 PM
Currently I'm running this for my crew and everyones liking thus far. Although I gotta say, this ain't no 4-5 hour module, it's been two long sessions with a third one coming up.

How genre savvy are they being?
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Post by: Kailem on Jul 18, 2019, 05:04:56 PM
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Post by: The Old One on Jul 22, 2019, 06:54:26 PM
Looking good, I can't wait to see the rest of the entries on the Alien.
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Post by: Monster Man on Jul 24, 2019, 08:50:39 AM
Quote from: [cancerblack] on Jul 16, 2019, 09:53:37 PM
Mild anxiety over not having pre-ordered yet. That last Prodos sale kinda f**ked up my disposable.


Quote from: Monster Man on Jul 08, 2019, 11:58:17 PM
Currently I'm running this for my crew and everyones liking thus far. Although I gotta say, this ain't no 4-5 hour module, it's been two long sessions with a third one coming up.

How genre savvy are they being?

Only a couple are acting like this. While everyone else is playin' into the role of a horror movie character. It's like a weird mix of prequel goofiness and the survival mindset of the originals.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: [cancerblack] on Jul 24, 2019, 10:14:20 PM
Quote from: Monster Man on Jul 24, 2019, 08:50:39 AM
Quote from: [cancerblack] on Jul 16, 2019, 09:53:37 PM
Mild anxiety over not having pre-ordered yet. That last Prodos sale kinda f**ked up my disposable.


Quote from: Monster Man on Jul 08, 2019, 11:58:17 PM
Currently I'm running this for my crew and everyones liking thus far. Although I gotta say, this ain't no 4-5 hour module, it's been two long sessions with a third one coming up.

How genre savvy are they being?

Only a couple are acting like this. While everyone else is playin' into the role of a horror movie character. It's like a weird mix of prequel goofiness and the survival mindset of the originals.


Hmm, prolly not the players dragging it out then. Though I do find sometimes I need to introduce an Aliens style "reactors f**ked, you have this long" or equivalent in the third act to really get players moving if they're being stubborn on the whole, not getting eaten front.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Monster Man on Jul 24, 2019, 11:00:15 PM
Quote from: [cancerblack] on Jul 24, 2019, 10:14:20 PM
Quote from: Monster Man on Jul 24, 2019, 08:50:39 AM
Quote from: [cancerblack] on Jul 16, 2019, 09:53:37 PM
Mild anxiety over not having pre-ordered yet. That last Prodos sale kinda f**ked up my disposable.


Quote from: Monster Man on Jul 08, 2019, 11:58:17 PM
Currently I'm running this for my crew and everyones liking thus far. Although I gotta say, this ain't no 4-5 hour module, it's been two long sessions with a third one coming up.

How genre savvy are they being?

Only a couple are acting like this. While everyone else is playin' into the role of a horror movie character. It's like a weird mix of prequel goofiness and the survival mindset of the originals.


Hmm, prolly not the players dragging it out then. Though I do find sometimes I need to introduce an Aliens style "reactors f**ked, you have this long" or equivalent in the third act to really get players moving if they're being stubborn on the whole, not getting eaten front.

These kinda things work themselves out when your crew realize
Spoiler
there's nothing left on this ship to perpetuate their survival. Once the Montero goes off, they bring all they can but that's it. Eventually they will run outta food and equipment to deal with the nasties. If there is any chance, it's in repairing the engines along with whatever else is giving problems.
[close]
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: [cancerblack] on Jul 26, 2019, 09:38:29 PM
Quote from: Monster Man on Jul 24, 2019, 11:00:15 PM
Quote from: [cancerblack] on Jul 24, 2019, 10:14:20 PM
Quote from: Monster Man on Jul 24, 2019, 08:50:39 AM
Quote from: [cancerblack] on Jul 16, 2019, 09:53:37 PM
Mild anxiety over not having pre-ordered yet. That last Prodos sale kinda f**ked up my disposable.


Quote from: Monster Man on Jul 08, 2019, 11:58:17 PM
Currently I'm running this for my crew and everyones liking thus far. Although I gotta say, this ain't no 4-5 hour module, it's been two long sessions with a third one coming up.

How genre savvy are they being?

Only a couple are acting like this. While everyone else is playin' into the role of a horror movie character. It's like a weird mix of prequel goofiness and the survival mindset of the originals.


Hmm, prolly not the players dragging it out then. Though I do find sometimes I need to introduce an Aliens style "reactors f**ked, you have this long" or equivalent in the third act to really get players moving if they're being stubborn on the whole, not getting eaten front.

These kinda things work themselves out when your crew realize
Spoiler
there's nothing left on this ship to perpetuate their survival. Once the Montero goes off, they bring all they can but that's it. Eventually they will run outta food and equipment to deal with the nasties. If there is any chance, it's in repairing the engines along with whatever else is giving problems.
[close]


Fair enough.


Finally gunna pre-order on Tuesday. Last minute, as always.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Aug 05, 2019, 08:48:14 AM
Pre-order date has extended to the 11th of August.
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Post by: The Old One on Aug 05, 2019, 02:53:01 PM
Excellent, I'm really glad.
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Post by: Mr. Clemens on Aug 11, 2019, 12:26:07 AM
This hasn't been mentioned by anybody here yet, but there's a new incentive for pre-ordering, which ends tomorrow:

QuoteHello! This is the thirteenth official newsletter for the upcoming ALIEN tabletop RPG by Free League Publishing and Twentieth Century Fox.

The exclusive pre-order of the game over at ALIEN-RPG.COM ends this Sunday August 11, so hurry over there now if you didn't order the game already - and tell your friends if you already did! There will not be another extension of the pre-order, so this is your last chance to gain early access to the 168-page Cinematic Starter Kit PDF and get those awesomely priced bundles!

To spice things up we have added two more pre-order bonuses:

A PDF of a complete 58-page chapter of the full rulebook, called "A Hard Life Amongst the Stars" will be shared shortly with all who have pre-ordered the game. This chapter focuses on space travel, starships and space combat, and gives you some insight into how the ALIEN roleplaying can be about much more than fightning xenomorphs. Note that this is just a sneak peek - the chapter is still not fully edited and proofed - if you spot errors in it, please do report them using the feedback form or on our forums.

All pre-order bundles have now - at no extra cost - been expanded with a bonus 48-page printed booklet, featuring the Chariot of the Gods scenario by Andrew E.C. Gaska, included in the Starter Kit PDF. The booklet will shipped to you along with the 392-page core rulebook and the other bundle items. Chariot was originally intended be included in the core rulebook, but it's simply too extensive for that, and we feel it's more user-friendly to publish it as its own book. The core rulebook will instead include the shorter introductory scenario Hope's Last Day. Note that the Chariot of the Gods booklet is of course included for everyone who pre-orders a bundle, even if you pre-ordered before this announcement.

I just downloaded my copy of the new chapter, and it looks good!  ;D
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Post by: The Old One on Aug 11, 2019, 11:04:41 AM
Yes!!!!!!
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Post by: Xiggz456 on Aug 11, 2019, 04:24:30 PM
Preorder ends today so I caved and bought the standard bundle. Never played an rpg like this but I'm intrigued by the world building aspects.
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Post by: The Old One on Aug 13, 2019, 04:18:44 AM
Indeed, I am most curious about it myself.
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Post by: Corporal Hicks on Sep 02, 2019, 07:25:55 AM
https://frialigan.se/en/games/alien/?downloads

Download section with some maps, sheets (printer-friendly versions) and wallpapers of that awesome art!
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Post by: Mr. Clemens on Sep 02, 2019, 12:48:44 PM
Nice! Thanks for that. Gonna seem like Christmas morning when these materials arrive, bought and paid for!  ;D
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: The Old One on Sep 09, 2019, 01:45:12 AM
Beautiful Alien art.
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Post by: Corporal Hicks on Sep 20, 2019, 12:34:06 PM
https://mailchi.mp/34e8352bef83/alien-pre-order-extended-to-aug-1677349?e=8becb4d032


Official release date is 10th of December.
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Post by: Monster Man on Sep 24, 2019, 09:32:04 AM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Sep 02, 2019, 07:25:55 AM
https://frialigan.se/en/games/alien/?downloads

Download section with some maps, sheets (printer-friendly versions) and wallpapers of that awesome art!

Wait a second -- Novgorod? Is this for some test scenario?
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Post by: Xiggz456 on Oct 05, 2019, 12:44:30 AM
Finally went ahead and read the PDF rule book. Lots of nice details regarding creatures, tech, corporations, political factions and so on.

So I probably won't play it but "The Chariot of the Gods" scenario was a fun read through. Andrew Gaska did a good job of combining the lore from Prometheus & Covenant and dropping it into a very "ALIEN" like setting/scenario.

Also love the artwork sprinkled throughout.
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Post by: SM on Oct 05, 2019, 05:00:26 AM
Quote from: Monster Man on Sep 24, 2019, 09:32:04 AM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Sep 02, 2019, 07:25:55 AM
https://frialigan.se/en/games/alien/?downloads

Download section with some maps, sheets (printer-friendly versions) and wallpapers of that awesome art!

Wait a second -- Novgorod? Is this for some test scenario?

I think you'll find out when the full rulebook comes out.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: The Old One on Oct 06, 2019, 12:59:57 PM
December is fast approaching.
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Post by: Corporal Hicks on Oct 25, 2019, 10:21:14 AM
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Post by: The Old One on Oct 25, 2019, 01:16:30 PM
Oh I can't wait!
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Post by: Corporal Hicks on Oct 25, 2019, 01:24:36 PM
I just wanna get rolling some more dice. Playing through the Hope's Last Stand again next month which I'm really looking forward to.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Still Collating... on Oct 25, 2019, 07:58:14 PM
If possible, record it please. That's a real fun scenario.
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Post by: Corporal Hicks on Nov 01, 2019, 09:08:34 AM
Now for something a little different -



https://www.effektpodcast.org/episodes/i-alien-1-6HFFskT9
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Post by: Still Collating... on Nov 01, 2019, 03:55:02 PM
This was both ridiculous and hilarious, but genius. The concept has a lot of potential. This was AVP2 all over again. It seems like so much fun.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Nov 05, 2019, 11:56:43 AM
Just got my PDFs!  ;D
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Post by: The Old One on Nov 05, 2019, 12:22:45 PM
Awesome! Only another month!!!
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Post by: Mr. Clemens on Nov 05, 2019, 04:39:48 PM
Notified mine are available, too. Might not look at 'em, though... wanna dig that new rpg book excitement! :p
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Post by: Corporal Hicks on Nov 06, 2019, 08:54:36 AM
I made it into another book!  ;D

(https://i.imgur.com/gVMZDYf.jpg)

This is supposed to be me but they got the name wrong :(

(https://i.imgur.com/F9WUZ4T.jpg)
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Post by: Mr. Clemens on Nov 06, 2019, 01:11:51 PM
That is so cool, man. You are now canon!!!  :D
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Nov 06, 2019, 01:17:38 PM
If it was the correct spelling, it could have been the person my ship in Rage War is named after!  :laugh:
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Mr. Clemens on Nov 06, 2019, 02:47:40 PM
I wonder if there was some legal squeamishness at work there. They should have just asked you if you'd mind!
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Post by: Kradan on Nov 06, 2019, 02:59:42 PM
That's why it's Aeron, I guess . " Nope, completely different . Nothing to do with the guy who run that fan site "
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Post by: Still Collating... on Nov 06, 2019, 07:04:40 PM
Wow, that's brilliant! Congratulations! Yeah, too bad for the spelling, but still man, it's some kind of reference to you, you are literally a character in the universe now. That must be a great feeling after so many years of being an active fan. Love the description of your character. :laugh:

I'm still waiting for a WY character to appear that goes by the code name SM... ;)
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Post by: FenGiddel on Nov 07, 2019, 05:24:32 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Nov 06, 2019, 01:17:38 PM
If it was the correct spelling, it could have been the person my ship in Rage War is named after!  :laugh:
Obviously you're just going to do a legal name-change?  ;)
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: [cancerblack] on Nov 07, 2019, 09:31:48 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Nov 06, 2019, 08:54:36 AM
I made it into another book!  ;D

(https://i.imgur.com/gVMZDYf.jpg)

This is supposed to be me but they got the name wrong :(

(https://i.imgur.com/F9WUZ4T.jpg)


I'm guessing it was intentional. Very cool either way.
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Post by: Mr. Clemens on Nov 07, 2019, 10:28:53 PM
Canada reporting in. My stuff shipped today, expected Monday!  ;D
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: [cancerblack] on Nov 08, 2019, 08:21:28 PM
I actually missed out on the pre-order due to leaving it til the last second and an unexpected expense, but will be buying a copy ASAP.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: The Old One on Nov 08, 2019, 08:24:19 PM
New Neomorph information:
It is genetically programmed to kill all life.

The Neomorphic "Pod" is created by the Pathogen interacting with the pollen in a planet's atmosphere.

The Neomorphic "Mote(s)" is a synchronized swarm of highly infectious Tachinidae tabellarium. Sometimes visible when clustering together to increase their locomotive capabilities. Possessing a primal hive intelligence, it targets the nearest potential host.

The Neomorphic "Bloodburster" is created by the Motes mutating white blood cells as the blood circulates until it forms a cancerous growth that then becomes lodged in a vein. The tumor can take root in any bodily area of sufficient mass. Forming an amniotic sack, the tumor then begins rapidly converting the host's mutated cells into a larval Bloodburster. If lodged in a region of the body with dense muscle or bone and no easy egress, the gestating creature develops dorsal spines to aid in it's escape.

The Adult Neomorph:
As it leaves the Neophyte juvenile stage and reaches adulthood the Neomorph's smooth, eyeless head becomes more enlongated and pointed. The lifecycle and  metabolism of Neomorphs is so fast that they quickly burn themselves out. An adult Neomorph typically dies of natural causes within 24 hours. Fungus interacting with the decaying corpse will be transformed into new spore sacs, continuing the cycle.
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Post by: [cancerblack] on Nov 08, 2019, 08:28:05 PM
Quote from: Fiendishly Inventive on Nov 08, 2019, 08:24:19 PM
New Neomorph information:
It is genetically programmed to kill all life.

The Neomorphic "Pod" is created by the Pathogen interacting with the pollen in a planet's atmosphere.

The Neomorphic "Mote(s)" is a synchronized swarm of highly infectious Tachinidae tabellarium. Sometimes visible when clustering together to increase their locomotive capabilities. Possessing a primal hive intelligence, it targets the nearest potential host.

The Neomorphic "Bloodburster" is created by the Motes mutating white blood cells as the blood circulates until it forms a cancerous growth that then becomes lodged in a vein. The tumor can take root in any bodily area of sufficient mass. Forming an amniotic sack, the tumor then begins rapidly converting the host's mutated cells into a larval Bloodburster. If lodged in a region of the body with dense muscle or bone and no easy egress, the gestating creature develops dorsal spines to aid in it's escape.

The Adult Neomorph:
As it leaves the Neophyte juvenile stage and reaches adulthood the Neomorph's smooth, eyeless head becomes more enlongated and pointed. The lifecycle and  metabolism of Neomorphs is so fast that they quickly burn themselves out. An adult Neomorph typically dies of natural causes within 24 hours. Fungus interacting with the decaying corpse will be transformed into new spore sacs, continuing the cycle.


Seems legit.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: The Old One on Nov 08, 2019, 08:28:22 PM
New Engineer information:
The ruins of their massive necropoli and pyramidal structures are spread across the stars. The sophistication of their fossilized biotechnology mystifies explorers while their megalithic stone statues and busts bear testament to their artistic and architectural superiority.

Terminology:
Hieroglyphic tablets unearthed on Tanaka 5 call them Ossians. The decoded Derelict beacon on LV-426 made reference to the Mala'kak. Whatever they call themselves, to modern humanity Praetomorph they are known simply as the Engineers.

The Prometheus' fate:
The star configuration Dr. Elizabeth Shaw and Dr. Charles Holloway discovered turned out to be a star map which led the Prometheus mission to a distant moon and the ruins of an Engineer outpost. Whatever they found was erased from the archives, the destination of was classified and all but forgotten, but stray transmissions picked up by company satellites confirmed the existence of the beings.

Over the decades, covert corporate scientists have made attempts to classify them. The number of them with religious leanings often liken them to the Nephilim, fallen angels cast out of heaven for meddling with- or in this case creating- humanity. As the first remains of their kind were discovered at the helms of their dead ships, some have labelled them Mundus gubernavi, or '"universal pilot" like the misnomer Internecivus Raptus, or "murderous thief" that is sometimes associated with Xenomorph XX121, the classification, in of itself is incorrect. There is no "pilot" genus to draw upon.

The late Doctor Shaw's scientific notes that were recovered in a garbled signal sent after the loss of the Prometheus provide the most shocking revelation about the Engineers, their DNA is human. They predate us, they are us and we come from them. The rediscovery of Doctor Shaw's notes has led to a more scientific name for the giants, Homo Genitor, meaning creator of man.

Not much else is known about them, what else is known is being gleaned from a number of extrasolar archeological dig sites discovered within the last three years as the Frontier has advanced into the unknown. No living Engineers are known to exist and the xenoanthropologists aware of them believe they died out thousands of years ago. Their passing is marked by their abandoned citadels, derelict ships and their biogenetic and evolutionary experiments. What is also clear from Doctor Shaw's transmissions is that even though they created humanity, at a certain point a millennia ago they decided to undo their creation, attempting to wipe out the Earth and start again.

Physical form:
The Engineers, while a number of fossilized discoveries place them at 4.5 meters tall, most agree that they averaged around 2.7 meters tall. Theories suggest unique castes of Engineer exist with physical alternatives developed into them, thereby distinguishing civilian and military factions. Others postulated that not all the crumbling edifices unearthed belong to the Engineers but other species seeded by or predating them. If that is the case, the civilisations responsible also, no longer exist. And pointing to the enormous remains of the so-called "Space Jockey" specimen reported witnessed by three parties. A number of xenoanthropologists suggest the Engineers based their biomechanical technology on creatures greater than themselves- strange beings of immense size replete with pachydermic probosci.
However since the specimen in question was unfortunately destroyed, all of this is merely conjecture.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: [cancerblack] on Nov 08, 2019, 08:39:56 PM
QuotePhysical form:
The Engineers, while a number of fossilized discoveries place them at 4.5 meters tall, most agree that they averaged around 2.7 meters tall. Theories suggest unique castes of Engineer exist with physical alternatives developed into them, thereby distinguishing civilian and military factions. Others postulated that not all the crumbling edifices unearthed belong to the Engineers but other species seeded by or predating them. If that is the case, the civilisations responsible also, no longer exist. And pointing to the enormous remains of the so-called "Space Jockey" specimen reported witnessed by three parties. A number of xenoanthropologists suggest the Engineers based their biomechanical technology on creatures greater than themselves- strange beings of immense size replete with pachydermic probosci.
However since the specimen in question was unfortunately destroyed, all of this is merely conjecture.


You must be thrilled. ;)
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: SM on Nov 08, 2019, 11:22:46 PM
Quote from: [cancerblack] on Nov 08, 2019, 08:28:05 PM
Quote from: Fiendishly Inventive on Nov 08, 2019, 08:24:19 PM
New Neomorph information:
It is genetically programmed to kill all life.

The Neomorphic "Pod" is created by the Pathogen interacting with the pollen in a planet's atmosphere.

The Neomorphic "Mote(s)" is a synchronized swarm of highly infectious Tachinidae tabellarium. Sometimes visible when clustering together to increase their locomotive capabilities. Possessing a primal hive intelligence, it targets the nearest potential host.

The Neomorphic "Bloodburster" is created by the Motes mutating white blood cells as the blood circulates until it forms a cancerous growth that then becomes lodged in a vein. The tumor can take root in any bodily area of sufficient mass. Forming an amniotic sack, the tumor then begins rapidly converting the host's mutated cells into a larval Bloodburster. If lodged in a region of the body with dense muscle or bone and no easy egress, the gestating creature develops dorsal spines to aid in it's escape.

The Adult Neomorph:
As it leaves the Neophyte juvenile stage and reaches adulthood the Neomorph's smooth, eyeless head becomes more enlongated and pointed. The lifecycle and  metabolism of Neomorphs is so fast that they quickly burn themselves out. An adult Neomorph typically dies of natural causes within 24 hours. Fungus interacting with the decaying corpse will be transformed into new spore sacs, continuing the cycle.


Seems legit.

I think the mote pods would've been better interacting with fungus rather than pollen.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Local Trouble on Nov 08, 2019, 11:38:33 PM
I thought USCM was the canon acronym and USCMC was only fanon.  ???
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: The Old One on Nov 08, 2019, 11:54:24 PM
It also interacts with Fungus I guess, but I tried to shorten the post where possible as it's already very long.

I omitted the fact it rather vaguely: interacts with microbial aspects in the air.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Immortan Jonesy on Nov 09, 2019, 12:57:59 AM
Quote from: SM on Nov 08, 2019, 11:22:46 PM
Quote from: [cancerblack] on Nov 08, 2019, 08:28:05 PM
Quote from: Fiendishly Inventive on Nov 08, 2019, 08:24:19 PM
New Neomorph information:
It is genetically programmed to kill all life.

The Neomorphic "Pod" is created by the Pathogen interacting with the pollen in a planet's atmosphere.

The Neomorphic "Mote(s)" is a synchronized swarm of highly infectious Tachinidae tabellarium. Sometimes visible when clustering together to increase their locomotive capabilities. Possessing a primal hive intelligence, it targets the nearest potential host.

The Neomorphic "Bloodburster" is created by the Motes mutating white blood cells as the blood circulates until it forms a cancerous growth that then becomes lodged in a vein. The tumor can take root in any bodily area of sufficient mass. Forming an amniotic sack, the tumor then begins rapidly converting the host's mutated cells into a larval Bloodburster. If lodged in a region of the body with dense muscle or bone and no easy egress, the gestating creature develops dorsal spines to aid in it's escape.

The Adult Neomorph:
As it leaves the Neophyte juvenile stage and reaches adulthood the Neomorph's smooth, eyeless head becomes more enlongated and pointed. The lifecycle and  metabolism of Neomorphs is so fast that they quickly burn themselves out. An adult Neomorph typically dies of natural causes within 24 hours. Fungus interacting with the decaying corpse will be transformed into new spore sacs, continuing the cycle.


Seems legit.

I think the mote pods would've been better interacting with fungus rather than pollen.

Really? what a shame!  :P

(https://i.imgur.com/aT0GNJM.jpg)
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Still Collating... on Nov 09, 2019, 10:25:32 AM
Really liking all the lore Free League are doing. Love the bit about the Neomorph living 24h, dying and having its body turned into more pods, a beautiful nod to the original concept for the Alien's lifecycle and a clear reason as to why the Neomorph needed to be improved.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Mr. Clemens on Nov 09, 2019, 01:44:03 PM
Oof... $44.53 in customs fees. That's a whole 'nother book right there.

Taking a quick skim through the pdf, I see they've recycled some lore from the old Leading Edge rpg; I don't remember much from that book, but I do remember that there was a creature called a 'Harvester', which makes a reappearance here. Neat.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: The Old One on Nov 09, 2019, 05:20:29 PM
It's a real pity I absolutely LOVE the majority of the book, the world building and the section on the Neomorph in particular is magnificent, perfect understanding of the creature as it is in the film. And the section on the Engineers I could go on about, but I'm disheartened because the parts actually concerning the Alien itself?
Not as palatable.

Spoiler

My one major issue is the nature of the Alien itself funnily enough, I don't see the need for all the "unique" versions, a great deal of them unhinging the realism the book so perfectly set up beforehand. The Weaver for example is entirely unnecessary, not great for something named "The Perfect Organism" - I do like the addition of the Stalker though, although it's existence I think required a clearer description.

For instance, I think in the Egg section it should have detailed three types of Eggs.
The regular one, producing the regular (Soldier) Alien, the Praetomorph Egg producing the Stalker Alien and the Praetorian Egg producing the Praetorian Facehugger- and perhaps go for the more believable terminology the Neomorph section used.

Why have three unique names for essentially the one thing changed slightly?

Why not just for the Soldier have "Soldier" and then "Armoured Soldier" for instance?

And for the Scout, "Scout" and "Armoured Scout" then?

And for the Charger, isn't it essentially identical to the Praetorian but just quadrupedal instead of bipedal? Why not merge them into the one creature?
In a story for instance just a Praetorian or two that were intended to be Queens just have to stay as is because a Queen is already present?

While I understand the "Royal Jelly" nonsense, might be useful for gameplay and all the castes, I don't think the believability/tonal/plausibility trade is worth it.
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Not sure how I feel about companies actually obtaining the Alien, nor the additions to Acheron LV-426;
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The idea the Derelict survived, ambiguously. Instead of directly connecting it to The Cold Forge, or declaring it destroyed completely.
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Fiorina 161;
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Three Eggs in the bowels of the facility, Andrews, Boggs and Rains ovomorphed.
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Or particularly LV-223- The inclusion of the awful Fire and Stone series continuity in particular is immensely disappointing, as is the referencing of the Pathogen as an "Accelerant" something retconned by Covenant. It's honestly totally took the wind out of my sails in regards to the book...

Spoiler
Empress, okay but also Queen Mother? Also Alien King? Really?  Seriously?
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Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Local Trouble on Nov 09, 2019, 07:20:36 PM
That all sounds awful.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Immortan Jonesy on Nov 09, 2019, 07:45:02 PM
Maybe you can change from RPG to TBS (turn-based strategy game) if you include the Deacon mountain  :laugh:

Quote from: [cancerblack] on Nov 08, 2019, 08:39:56 PM
QuotePhysical form:
The Engineers, while a number of fossilized discoveries place them at 4.5 meters tall, most agree that they averaged around 2.7 meters tall. Theories suggest unique castes of Engineer exist with physical alternatives developed into them, thereby distinguishing civilian and military factions. Others postulated that not all the crumbling edifices unearthed belong to the Engineers but other species seeded by or predating them. If that is the case, the civilisations responsible also, no longer exist. And pointing to the enormous remains of the so-called "Space Jockey" specimen reported witnessed by three parties. A number of xenoanthropologists suggest the Engineers based their biomechanical technology on creatures greater than themselves- strange beings of immense size replete with pachydermic probosci.
However since the specimen in question was unfortunately destroyed, all of this is merely conjecture.

You must be thrilled. ;)

Good info indeed. The possibilities are pretty much endless with that one  8) ^
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: [cancerblack] on Nov 10, 2019, 04:27:29 AM
Quote from: Fiendishly Inventive on Nov 09, 2019, 05:20:29 PM
It's a real pity I absolutely LOVE the majority of the book, the world building and the section on the Neomorph in particular is magnificent, perfect understanding of the creature as it is in the film. And the section on the Engineers I could go on about, but I'm disheartened because the parts actually concerning the Alien itself?
Not as palatable.

Spoiler

My one major issue is the nature of the Alien itself funnily enough, I don't see the need for all the "unique" versions, a great deal of them unhinging the realism the book so perfectly set up beforehand. The Weaver for example is entirely unnecessary, not great for something named "The Perfect Organism" - I do like the addition of the Stalker though, although it's existence I think required a clearer description.

For instance, I think in the Egg section it should have detailed three types of Eggs.
The regular one, producing the regular (Soldier) Alien, the Praetomorph Egg producing the Stalker Alien and the Praetorian Egg producing the Praetorian Facehugger- and perhaps go for the more believable terminology the Neomorph section used.

Why have three unique names for essentially the one thing changed slightly?

Why not just for the Soldier have "Soldier" and then "Armoured Soldier" for instance?

And for the Scout, "Scout" and "Armoured Scout" then?

And for the Charger, isn't it essentially identical to the Praetorian but just quadrupedal instead of bipedal? Why not merge them into the one creature?
In a story for instance just a Praetorian or two that were intended to be Queens just have to stay as is because a Queen is already present?

While I understand the "Royal Jelly" nonsense, might be useful for gameplay and all the castes, I don't think the believability/tonal/plausibility trade is worth it.
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That's because a lot of the people who play DnD style RPGs demand endless variety and adding in that kinda stuff will help the game stay alive/in print, and doing it in a codified way rather than just hints and suggestions prevents arguments.

Having said that, in any games I run I'll be ignoring most of it, and any OC donut steel specialist creatures I do use will be described as different but not given gimmicky names (unless the players themselves nickname something).



QuoteNot sure how I feel about companies actually obtaining the Alien, nor the additions to Acheron LV-426;
Spoiler
The idea the Derelict survived, ambiguously. Instead of directly connecting it to The Cold Forge, or declaring it destroyed completely.
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Fiorina 161;
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Three Eggs in the bowels of the facility, Andrews, Boggs and Rains ovomorphed.
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Or particularly LV-223- The inclusion of the awful Fire and Stone series continuity in particular is immensely disappointing, as is the referencing of the Pathogen as an "Accelerant" something retconned by Covenant. It's honestly totally took the wind out of my sails in regards to the book...

I'll have to read that part to judge.


Quote
Spoiler
Empress, okay but also Queen Mother? Also Alien King? Really?  Seriously?
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Indefensible, but thankfully easily ignored.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: The Old One on Nov 10, 2019, 08:35:30 AM
Yeah, I guess you're right about the variety of Alien but I wish I dunno, that the classifications of Alien were listed on one fold-out page and the more outlandish stuff was perhaps on the last fold so it's hidden by default to satisfy my obsession about various minutiae. lol

I just wish the "rumor control" part of LV-223 wasn't included at all.

On the bright side since the Acheron LV-426 Derelict's fate is decided by the story director and is left deliberately ambiguous I suppose you can say it's destroyed, and if you also don't want to return to Fiorina 161 you can reason I suppose that the three surviving Eggs died as no one returned to discover them. 

Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Mr. Clemens on Nov 11, 2019, 05:30:30 PM
Got my stuff! Very high quality materials, and well-packed...
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: The Old One on Nov 12, 2019, 09:06:30 PM
Any particular thoughts?
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Kailem on Nov 12, 2019, 09:36:37 PM
Quote from: Fiendishly Inventive on Nov 08, 2019, 08:28:22 PMTerminology:
Hieroglyphic tablets unearthed on Tanaka 5 call them Ossians. The decoded Derelict beacon on LV-426 made reference to the Mala'kak. Whatever they call themselves, to modern humanity Praetomorph they are known simply as the Engineers.

Tanaka 5, home of the Kenner Scorpion Aliens. I'm going to take this as a nod that all the Kenner variants are canon in this! ;D :laugh:

Snake Alien, Mantis Alien, Killer Crab Alien, let's go! :laugh:
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: The Old One on Nov 12, 2019, 09:40:03 PM
lol please No.
But the Tanakan Scorpionids do get a full page.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Local Trouble on Nov 12, 2019, 09:41:35 PM
Now I'm fully expecting an AvP expansion to this thing.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Kailem on Nov 12, 2019, 09:46:35 PM
Quote from: Fiendishly Inventive on Nov 12, 2019, 09:40:03 PM
lol please No.

"Suddenly, Flying Alien Queen, outta nowhere!!" :laugh:

Quote from: Fiendishly Inventive on Nov 12, 2019, 09:40:03 PMBut the Tanakan Scorpionids do get a full page.

Ohh. Anything interesting of note?
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Nov 13, 2019, 02:53:39 PM
New news letter >>

QuoteIf you missed the early pre-order, don't worry! The game will available in general retail from December 10, so please do ask your friendly local gaming shop for it. We will also have a pre-release event at Pax Unplugged on December 6–8 where the game will be available. Finally, we will open up a pre-order in the Free League webshop again on December 3 – buying the game there will get you near-immediate access to the full PDF of the game.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: [cancerblack] on Nov 13, 2019, 06:57:03 PM
December 3 it is then!
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Nov 13, 2019, 08:37:42 PM
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: The Old One on Nov 13, 2019, 08:52:13 PM
Apart from the one page, and a number of mentions of ugh stuff, that isn't as up to date as it ought to be, it is perfect.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Mr. Clemens on Nov 13, 2019, 11:16:20 PM
Quote from: Fiendishly Inventive on Nov 12, 2019, 09:06:30 PM
Any particular thoughts?

Haven't had the time to sit down with it, but I did enjoy seeing my name in the playtesters/proofreaders acknowledgements!  :P
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: happypred on Nov 15, 2019, 07:25:58 AM
Are they only including LV-223 from F&S? If so, not really that big of a deal IMO
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Nov 15, 2019, 08:20:02 AM
Tarturus (Tartarus?) from Life and Death is on there too.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: The Old One on Nov 15, 2019, 08:45:53 AM
An entire section (Rumor Control) on how the Accelerant created an entire ecosystem, and a strange mountain even creatures it coexists with fear. And the story of how a Alien hive got established, that can be effected by the Accelerant, it also mentions the fact that an entire store of the Accelerant exists below the surface- yet on specific Company pages (depending upon the group) it mentions how the group does or doesn't want to acquire the Accelerant- but according to the book a ton of it is available in plain sight? It makes no sense. Not to mention that now that Covenant exists, we now it's not a genetic Accelerant at all but a Pathogen with a specific purpose, so it can't create an ecosystem or do half the things it's described to do in F&S or L&D and the idea it can affect the Alien species itself most of all is absolute nonsense.

I hate it, I hate it, I hate it so much.

It also totally contradicts the brief planet description on the last page, more in line with Prometheus' depiction- describing dust and electrical storms that destroy nearly everything on the surface- the way it ought to be.

Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Ultramorph on Nov 15, 2019, 08:19:21 PM
This wasn't really on my radar, but I love how it's using stuff from the comics like Fire and Stone, and even throwing in references to stuff like the Mala'Kak. I may have to check this out.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: The Old One on Nov 15, 2019, 08:50:22 PM
It shouldn't be using non-canon (Garbage) material that contradicts the current material, case in point- everything about LV-223 past the Prometheus time period.

Again after re-reading the Alien section, I don't mind any of it apart from the ordering and naming being really unclear and confusing and how the Crusher, (Carrier, Ravager) and Weaver come about involving being an already existing class, Soldier, Scout, Enhanced Soldier, Enhanced Scout and the Praetomorph- then gorged on Royal Jelly? No thank you.

It's more simple and less ridiculous if all the extended hive types came from a number of Praetorians, no longer serving much tactical purpose just cocoon themselves into such a specialisation: Crusher, Carrier, Ravager and Weaver. Also this way further expansions can add more specialised types to the bestiary if the developer wishes.

Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Local Trouble on Nov 15, 2019, 09:13:23 PM
That all sounds absolutely garbage-tier.

Although it wouldn't surprise me if the whole thing was a product of compromise.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Xiggz456 on Nov 16, 2019, 12:05:59 AM
I'm cool with it (although I'm not a fan of royal jelly). But I don't see any contradictions regarding the pathogen because we know of at least two strains of black goo. If even one drop of the accelerant from the first scene in Prometheus is present on LV223 than there's no reason to discount the biosphere on a small part of the moon. I'm intrigued just thinking about how the two strains would interact with one another. Looking forward to finally getting the physical book in hand. I read the starter PDF And Chariot of the Gods but I'm refraining from downloading the whole thing as I want to read it on paper pages.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Local Trouble on Nov 16, 2019, 11:27:01 PM
I don't know much about the goo since I tend to ignore the prequels, but it sounds like they're throwing in everything from the pre-Covenant EU.  Why do that?
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: The Old One on Nov 16, 2019, 11:28:05 PM
A serious downer then, because the "It's a strain" excuse convenient as it is, considering David took an identical batch of cargo of the Pathogen from LV-223 to Planet 4. Is even more harmful when you consider the implication that now, the idea is a catch all for letting the liquid do anything the story creator desires, that's a travesty and as dumb as it gets.

No reason exists to leave the life-creating substance, whatever it is on LV-223, we know that installation is a weapons facility. And even if it is also on LV-223 - what about all the things it does in that series that we know it doesn't do in Covenant at all? The another strain idea?

It's just so frustrating to see people in creating the lore, misinterpret it so completely and utterly when it's so clear. Especially with Covenant and additional material such as Advent, David's Drawings and The Cold Forge.
If more accessible "versions" of the Pathogen exist it turns it from a believable and terrifying weapon with rules to complete nonsense bullshit that can do whatever the story desires.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Local Trouble on Nov 16, 2019, 11:46:59 PM
Does the RPG acknowledge the events from TCF?
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: The Old One on Nov 16, 2019, 11:50:53 PM
Yes, in fact Plagiarus Praepotens is now the main object of acquisition and is referred to all over the book.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Immortan Jonesy on Nov 17, 2019, 02:34:35 AM
Quote from: Fiendishly Inventive on Nov 16, 2019, 11:50:53 PM
Yes, in fact Plagiarus Praepotens is now the main object of acquisition and is referred to all over the book.

Is "Plagiarus praepotens" the next artificial evolutionary leap of Black Goo thanks to David?

Quote from: Local Trouble on Nov 16, 2019, 11:27:01 PM
I don't know much about the goo

I'd say that nobody knows anything about Black Goo (not even the scriptwriters) until the arrival of Alien Covenant  :laugh:

Quote from: Local Trouble on Nov 16, 2019, 11:27:01 PM
but it sounds like they're throwing in everything from the pre-Covenant EU.  Why do that?

That sound awful. Like trying to follow the Fire and Stone path  :P
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: The Old One on Nov 17, 2019, 08:58:24 AM
No Plagiarus Praepotens is what is implanted in a host to create the titular Alien, the most fundamental form of the creature.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Xiggz456 on Nov 17, 2019, 03:36:59 PM
Multiple strains is convenient as well as obvious based on what Prometheus showed us. I actually find the prequels  to be similar tier stories as F&S and L&D (in other words all four are just alright and none of them have satisfying conclusions). Cool about the praepotens though. 
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: The Old One on Nov 17, 2019, 03:52:13 PM
It's a garbage idea, and it's not obvious because it's completely incorrect. And I don't agree, Covenant is far superior to the rest. F&S and L&D- trash stories, full of nonsense and convenience. And Prometheus is an unfocused mess that has no idea what it is.
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Covenant knows what it is, a Gothic Romantic Horror in space, that's an adaptation and sequel to Frankenstein.
With a final act that brings the whole thing down.
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Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Immortan Jonesy on Nov 17, 2019, 03:59:44 PM
Quote from: Fiendishly Inventive on Nov 16, 2019, 11:50:53 PM
Yes, in fact Plagiarus Praepotens is now the main object of acquisition and is referred to all over the book.

It is a mutagenic substance, whence the comparison.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: The Old One on Nov 17, 2019, 04:00:36 PM
Yes, I suppose it is. But it's programmed apparently, according to the book. Back on topic: The Pathogen is perfectly understandable as one substance:

Spoiler

We know from various sources that the Pathogen is defined as so:
David sacrifices the Engineers against their will- wiping the planet clean and bringing forth Neomorphs.
And the Neomorph has every feature the Deacon has, except it also has back spines and a tail.
Generally in appearance is closer to Carlos Huante's concept art.

Deployment of Pathogen on a planet:

Spore Pod = Egg
Notes = Facehugger
Bloodburster = Chestburster
Neomorph = Xenomorph

In a planet wide infection, Deacons do get created:
Perhaps it even bypasses the Trilobite if the reproductive system is functional, creating a Deacon immediately.
But it still requires diluted contact- drinking from a river that became infected for instance-
Then if sex occurred, we know the rest- the woman likely dies in birth and the man turns into a raving lunatic and is going to combust. If it creates a Trilobite the Trilobite needs to survive until it's fully grown and able to then infect someone else. To create a Deacon.

Unlike the Neomorph being generated though- this requires two people to have sex;
Which is far, more unlikely than someone being in the initial blast radius or looking for food in the wilderness and getting infected by spores.

This all said;
The Deacon of Prometheus is described as a one of a kind, and owes its skin colour to the fact it was
generated through two distinctly different beings, the Engineer and a pair of humans. Considering everything else that was generated solely from one species in the prequel films is pale white and partially translucent this makes sense.

The Pathogen always creates a creature slightly unique yes, but the chaos is consistent- for example;

"The original liquid atomized to particles when exposed to the air."

"The pathogen was designed to affect all non-botanical life forms. All the animals, the 'meat', if you will... either kill them outright or use them as incubators to spawn a hybrid form, highly aggressive."

David refers to it working as intended, but when it's not dispersed as intended and instead is utilised in it's liquid form it clearly also modifies the recipient, at a reduced rate until the host dies as the Pathogen intended.

"From the eggs, came these parasites... shock troops
of the genetic assault. Waiting for a host, entering the host... rewriting the DNA... and ultimately... producing,
these enviable unions." The Neomorph.

Apply deductive reasoning and you start to discover patterns in all things it creates;

The Neomorphs and LV-223 creations all have:
-Acidic blood/saliva
-Pale, translucent skin
-Elongated limbs
-Extra appendages; back spines, extra fingers and a pharyngeal jaw in the Neomorphs' case.
(The unfolding appendages around the head hiding an attack method
in the case of the Hammerpedes and Trilobite, much like the pharyngeal jaw.)

Where-as the infected personnel of those on LV-223 all shared similar qualities.
(Infected by it in a diluted liquid form.)
The infected Sean Fifield is fairly obvious, he became bloated in the cranium, with veins rising to the surface.
In behaviour became extremely aggressive and violent. It's unclear if his proportions were effected.
The infected Charlie Holloway carries many identical signs, with veins rising to the surface of his skin
and becoming aggressive when crew members of the Prometheus tried to assist him.
It's clear that he would have became what the "Fifield Monster" was if given time.
A prolonged death sentence.

Why death? No incubation?
Essentially because it's been stated by the production that Holloway and Fifield were on the same path that the decapitated Engineer was on.
They showed many of the same symptoms as the infected Engineer, so that with liquid exposure to the Pathogen;
That if infected it will; (depending upon dosage) increasingly send the victim into a violent rage,
increasing their physical attributes while returning the mental ones to that of the entirely primal;
until their cranium explodes and they finally die.

So Pathogen exposure to the skin: Abomination.
Pathogen exposure by ingestion: Allows for the longer process that requires intercourse to create a Deacon.
Default Pathogen exposure, by exposing it to the air as David does in Covenant: Neomorphs.
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It's aready got a perfectly sensible outline, without the nonsense of multiple "strains" allowing a story creator to do whatever with no rules, which is, regardless of destroying all suspension of disbelief... creatively bankrupt, lazy and pathetic actually. Finally you also squander any remaining goodwill in the Alien community if you allow for do-whatever goo.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Immortan Jonesy on Nov 17, 2019, 04:28:21 PM
Great post. I'm glad the pathogen is not the nonsensical plot device from F&S and L&D. Also, you hit the spot with the Deacon. The aforementioned creature must be an special and unique breed of Neomorph.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Xiggz456 on Nov 17, 2019, 05:46:22 PM
Prometheus literally has two strains. So not sure why you're mad at multiple strains. It seems pretty straightforward to me: the deacon some time after the events of Prometheus  stumbles upon the first strain of accelerant and becomes the building blocks of life for the biosphere of LV223, then the pathogen gets involved further mutating the flora & fauna into highly aggressive creatures.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: The Old One on Nov 17, 2019, 05:51:59 PM
Because, the thing at the beginning of Prometheus is not the Pathogen. Also, the Pathogen is shown doing things during the comic series to the various people, creatures and environmental features on LV-223, it just can't do in canon. It's alright if it's wrote off as that one example of how to not use the Pathogen in a story, but I fear it's a precedent for more moronic things to come.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Immortan Jonesy on Nov 17, 2019, 06:26:03 PM
There is a million-year leap between the seeder virus and the weaponized virus from LV-223. Both substances (while somewhat similar in looking) look and behave differently. This one here looks like a black honeycomb.

(https://media.giphy.com/media/QYRiDXp7H9bZVJt8dp/giphy.gif)

The Black Pathogen causes its victims to explode. Look at the Engineer's helmet inside the dome (to the right of Fifield) or the revived head at Prometheus lab.

(https://i.imgur.com/o6ArvWy.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/jToXK0N.gif)

It is not very different from what we saw in Covenant in my opinion.

(https://i.imgur.com/XOyzZLB.png)
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Evanus on Nov 17, 2019, 09:32:40 PM
Yeah, I don't like the multiple strains thing and what F&S and L&D did with the black goo. Makes the whole thing messy and confusing. Covenant established a clearer idea of what it can do, Fiendishly explained it perfectly IMO.

The Advent video implied that the engineers created the black goo, right? I wonder what's up with the goo at the beginning of Prometheus, did they create that as well? I think it'd be interesting if they found it instead, and tried experimenting with it.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: The Old One on Nov 17, 2019, 09:34:27 PM
Yes, I totally agree.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Xiggz456 on Nov 18, 2019, 02:38:26 PM
But what would happen if the two came into contact with one another? That's what I find interesting. Regardless I'm happy that it's included in the rpg.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: The Old One on Nov 18, 2019, 02:41:37 PM
We don't know, and the idea of the "creating life" substance being available in the current period of the Alien universe? No thank you, it ought to be all gone- even if you "find it interesting" I do also, but not at the cost of undermining the whole "struggling for survival" thematic experience of the Alien universe. Including that page on Rumor Control of LV-223 at all, is an error.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Xiggz456 on Nov 18, 2019, 03:09:19 PM
I'd hardly say it undermines "struggling for survival". All it does is seed biospheres, it's up to the organisms after that to survive and evolve.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: The Old One on Nov 18, 2019, 03:10:18 PM
I'll agree to disagree, it opens up a web of moronic possibilities. Especially if a Company acquires it, as is usually the case in the Alien Universe.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Xiggz456 on Nov 18, 2019, 04:04:28 PM
Have you read the "Chariot of the Gods" section yet?
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: The Old One on Nov 18, 2019, 04:08:14 PM
Yes, although I skimmed it to avoid any spoilers, I just read the Abomination section about half an hour ago, why?
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Xiggz456 on Nov 18, 2019, 06:22:38 PM
Spoiler
Cuz you're right in the company usually acquiring said materials. Although if I remember correctly they mess with the pathogen in an attempt to inoculate themselves against it.
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Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: The Old One on Nov 18, 2019, 06:24:05 PM
Yes, indeed and actually- pleasingly it says that other versions of the Pathogen will create alternate versions of each specific mutation. Inferring that while the Pathogen always follows a certain process, alternate potential strains create slight versions of each mutation.

So for example the Pathogen exposure process that creates an Abomination, perhaps with a certain strain results in an "Abomination" exactly as shown so far, while another creates a larger one with more or less translucency with more bloated features etcetera, but that process always creates an Abomination that's nearly always identical.

So I'm totally fine with that, but the LV-223 comic series is still a contradiction of that presentation of the death creating liquid. Even if the life creating liquid merged with it somehow.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Alien Primordial Origin on Nov 19, 2019, 09:22:07 AM
Did the book explained about the origin of Xenomorph XX121?
Or who is the creator of Xenomorph XX121. David or Engineer?
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: The Old One on Nov 19, 2019, 10:21:24 AM
It leaves it ambiguous.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Nov 19, 2019, 12:15:44 PM
Any definitive answer runs the risk of being retconned in the next prequel (if it happens).
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: The Old One on Nov 20, 2019, 11:56:49 AM
Indeed it does, so ambiguity is the best option.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: TheBATMAN on Nov 23, 2019, 05:14:12 PM
Does anyone have a link where you can pre-order the actual game as a bundle. Everywhere I go seems to be selling all the components separately.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Nov 23, 2019, 09:31:53 PM
Might be better to wait for the actual publishers to put up pre-orders again.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: judge death on Nov 24, 2019, 10:07:41 AM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Nov 23, 2019, 09:31:53 PM
Might be better to wait for the actual publishers to put up pre-orders again.
From what I get the RPG will be up for sale again on 10 of december.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Xenomrph on Nov 24, 2019, 05:06:40 PM
Quote from: Fiendishly Inventive on Nov 12, 2019, 09:40:03 PM
lol please No.
But the Tanakan Scorpionids do get a full page.
That is a hilariously specific shout-out, I love it.

Also, did anyone notice that Fury 161 orbits Fiori 16?

I f**king love this shit.


Quote from: Fiendishly Inventive on Nov 15, 2019, 08:50:22 PM
It shouldn't be using non-canon (Garbage) material that contradicts the current material, case in point- everything about LV-223 past the Prometheus time period.

It's not "non-canon", nor does it contradict. The whole point of the Black Goo is that it's an unpredictable mutagenic macguffin that does weird and scary shit that you can't predict.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: The Old One on Nov 24, 2019, 05:50:02 PM
That's completely incorrect, you obviously don't understand it- it does not do just anything. We know this for a fact.

Spoiler

We know from various sources (Covenant, Advent, David's Drawings, Alien The Cold Forge, Alien The RPG) that the Pathogen is defined as so: At the beginning of Prometheus we see a substance used to create life, do not misunderstand, this is not the Pathogen- it is honeycombed in structure, breaks down the Engineer and is stored entirely uniquely. It is life creating, although requiring a sacrifice, while The Pathogen itself is referred to as death creating behind the scenes.

When the four liquid capsules in an Ampule (The Pathogen storage device) activate, presumably when deployed by a Juggernaut craft, it atomizes the particles to the air. The Pathogen is designed to empty a planet of life, how fast it affects a host in doing this depends upon dosage.

"The original liquid atomized to particles when exposed to the air."

"The pathogen was designed to affect all non-botanical life forms. All the animals, the 'meat', if you will... either kill them outright or use them as incubators to spawn a hybrid form, highly aggressive."

David refers to it dispersed as intended during deployment, but when it's not dispersed as intended and instead a host comes in contact with the Pathogen in it's liquid form it clearly also modifies the recipent until the host dies as the Pathogen eventually intended.

An example of Pathogen dispersement:
David, the artificial son of Peter Weyland sacrificed a population of Engineers against their will- wiping the planet clean, first because of the extreme concentration of the Pathogen during initial deployment it killed most Engineers in their Citadel immediately, then when the Pathogen settled into the air, it attached itself to pollen creating infected Fungus, the first step of bringing forth Neomorphs to finish the job. Presumably the Engineers had an antidote to end the Pathogen's presence on a planet when it's job completed. Whether it's the life creating substance or something else before that is introduced is unknown.

"From the eggs, came these parasites... shock troops of the genetic assault. Waiting for a host, entering the host... rewriting the DNA... and ultimately... producing,
these enviable unions." The Neomorph.

The lifecycle of a Neomorph can be equated to the titular Alien.

Spore Pod = Egg
Motes = Facehugger
Bloodburster = Chestburster
Neomorph = Adult Alien
In the Neomorph's case, when it dies it turns into more of the Pods responsible for it's creation, after 24 hours regardless- owing to it's accelerated life cycle.

The Pathogen is consistent in it's creation:
All creations feature:
-Acidic blood/saliva
-Pale, fleshy, translucent skin
-Elongated limbs
-Extra appendages; back protrusions, extra fingers and a pharyngeal jaw in the Neomorphs' case.
(The unfolding appendages around the head hiding an attack method in the case of the Hammerpede [A variation of the Neomorph born from a worm] and Trilobite [A potential stage in the creation of a Deacon, because of Doctor Elizabeth Shaw's infertility] much like the pharyngeal jaw.)

During the Prometheus' expedition to the empty world of LV-223 the crew discovered a massacre of Engineers by the Pathogen, infected by it in it's liquid form.
The process is seen in the numerous bodies of the Engineers, with combusted features, the decapitated Engineer, Fifield and Charlie Holloway. It's stated by the team behind Prometheus, that all three exist as stages of the one process.

Just as the decapitated Engineer, the infected Charlie Holloway carries identical symptoms with veins rising to the surface of his skin, complexion alteration, bloodshot eyes, pain and he also started becoming aggressive when crew members of the Prometheus tried to assist him.The infected Sean Fifield is a further stage of this, in addition he became bloated in the cranium, further aggressive and further violent. It's stated (by Alien The RPG) the penultimate stage is a distinct departure as it begins to develop further into something resembling a Neomorph, but only in terms of it's skin and the head becoming a shrunken hideous caricature, with a gelatinous cowl now covering any semblance of humanity. The end potential result is a horrific creature, with nearly every feature of a Neomorph, but most notably a now bulbous translucent cowl displaying partially hidden dark eyes or what used to be them perhaps- it's unclear, also pale translucent skin, enlongated limbs and possibly a new limb, additional back protrusions, extra fingers and a pharyngeal jaw. It also changes from a mostly bipedal stance to a quadrupedal stance. Charlie Holloway is the beginning, infected by a minute dosage and infecting others- with the potential to create a Trilobite and then Deacon with a sexual partner. With Fifield being the middle, transforming into a bulbous monster, with enlongated limbs and numerous features of a Neomorph, completely primal destroying everyone in it's path known as an Abomination. Then the Engineer, the end comes- often including combustion, a horrific death.
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The above isn't my opinion, it's a logical conclusion based upon all the sources available. Prometheus, Prometheus BTS, Covenant, Covenant BTS, David's Drawings, the RPG itself and more sources than I'm willing to spend the time listing.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Xenomrph on Nov 24, 2019, 07:14:16 PM
If "BTS" means "behind the scenes", then all of that is conjecture and opinion, and not necessarily relevant. It's not something that's actually within the films or any sources themselves.

Also, your conclusions for ingestion or exposure via the skin are based on a single case study within 'Prometheus', and one example does not make an entire conclusive data set - especially when we see that David deploys the pathogen against the Engineers and a whole shitload of them don't turn into abominations, they're just corpses.

it also isn't clear what form the pathogen even takes - sometimes it's a goo or drinkable liquid, sometimes it's some kind of airborne pathogen, sometimes it (somehow) forms spores on the ground that spawn an airborne pathogen, it's all over the place.

The Black Goo's effects are wildly inconsistent, and it's a really common complaint against the movies. Having the goo have crazy effects like we see in the comics is hardly out of the question - and, again, is the point of the goo itself. The Engineers lost control of the stuff and it destroyed their outpost on LV-223 in horrible ways, interacting with the goo causes crazy, unpredictable, but uniformly horrible effects and that's what makes it scary, just like how the Alien in the first movie was crazy, unpredictable, and generally unpleasant.

Concluding that Holloway would have become like Fifeld did is spurious at best, considering we don't see the stages that Fifeld went through to become what he did, nor do we see what Holloway would actually become since he was too busy being lit on fire.

You're really clearly arguing from a position of bad faith here - you didn't like what the comics did, so you're retroactively trying to find spurious ways to show that the comics are "impossible" or "non-canon". I can absolutely guarantee that we wouldn't be having this conversation if you liked what the comics did.

Like, you're welcome to disregard the comics, no one is going to stop you. But to declare that it's some kind of "fact" that they're "non canon" is pretty hilarious - people can choose to accept or ignore whatever they want.


Ahaha the RPG references the Harvesters from the old Leading Edge RPG, I f**king love it. This book rules.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Local Trouble on Nov 24, 2019, 08:04:32 PM
Quote from: Xenomrph on Nov 24, 2019, 05:06:40 PM
Quote from: Fiendishly Inventive on Nov 15, 2019, 08:50:22 PM
It shouldn't be using non-canon (Garbage) material that contradicts the current material, case in point- everything about LV-223 past the Prometheus time period.

It's not "non-canon", nor does it contradict. The whole point of the Black Goo is that it's an unpredictable mutagenic macguffin that does weird and scary shit that you can't predict.

I thought Covenant negated everything in F&S and TCF actually clarified what the goo does and how it works.  Am I mistaken?  ???
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: The Old One on Nov 24, 2019, 08:05:48 PM
I don't count the story of LV-223 in Dark Horses' Publishing mainly, regardless of my opinion because it factually contradicts the prequels, all new lore from
numerous sources and the RPG. The Pathogen is easy to understand if you pay attention.

Spoiler
I'm not arguing from a position of good or bad faith- I'm just trying to find the facts, and when you step back it all becomes very clear. It's far from unpredictable, but I don't blame anyone for thinking that without ruminating on the Prequels considerably. But I never said anything about the exposure type affecting anything?
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And everything since, Covenant, David's Drawings, TCF and The RPG back that up whether you like it or not. 
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Local Trouble on Nov 24, 2019, 09:51:03 PM
Will no one take me up on my bounty for Xenomrph's collection of non-canon stuff?
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: SiL on Nov 24, 2019, 09:52:49 PM
I thought it was pretty obvious the black goo is liquid plot device and does whatever it needs to to push the story ahead.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Xenomrph on Nov 24, 2019, 10:02:20 PM
Edit-- pruning.


I'd much rather agree to disagree and enjoy this super cool RPG book - it looks like it's got something for everyone and people can take from it what they want, and I think that's a really good thing.

Quote from: Local Trouble on Nov 24, 2019, 09:51:03 PM
Will no one take me up on my bounty for Xenomrph's collection of non-canon stuff?
Shit, I'll mail you that for free - it's an empty box. :)

Quote from: SiL on Nov 24, 2019, 09:52:49 PM
I thought it was pretty obvious the black goo is liquid plot device and does whatever it needs to to push the story ahead.
Ding ding ding, we have a winner.


Hahha the list of planets gives a shout out to Bracken's World (from the old Colonial Marines comics), and the Conestoga-class description mentions deploying EVAC fighters (https://images.proxibid.com/AuctionImages/5196/147648/2.jpg).

This book is the gift that keeps on giving.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Local Trouble on Nov 24, 2019, 10:38:19 PM
How does one with a moral opposition to physical media acquire this RPG if one were so inclined?
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Xenomrph on Nov 24, 2019, 10:41:23 PM
Quote from: Local Trouble on Nov 24, 2019, 10:38:19 PM
How does one with a moral opposition to physical media acquire this RPG if one were so inclined?
The book doesn't have a full retail release until Dec 10th, I wouldn't be surprised if Free League sold a PDF version from their store after that point. I've seen lots of RPG/tabletop companies sell PDFs for their stuff.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Local Trouble on Nov 24, 2019, 10:42:24 PM
Will you have space on the bookshelf for this?
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Xenomrph on Nov 24, 2019, 10:44:21 PM
Quote from: Local Trouble on Nov 24, 2019, 10:42:24 PM
Will you have space on the bookshelf for this?
It'll take some rearranging, but I'll make it happen.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Local Trouble on Nov 24, 2019, 11:08:01 PM
Does this RPG specify the size of LV-426?
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Xenomrph on Nov 24, 2019, 11:31:25 PM
Quote from: Local Trouble on Nov 24, 2019, 11:08:01 PM
Does this RPG specify the size of LV-426?
It says it has a gravity of .86, like the CMTM does.

It also makes reference to Odobenus Station, from the Marine campaign in AvPClassic. That's hilariously obscure.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Local Trouble on Nov 25, 2019, 12:08:00 AM
Any references to Colonel Dr. Church yet?
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Xiggz456 on Nov 25, 2019, 02:06:14 AM
My bundle arrived! Beautiful presentation!
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Xenomrph on Nov 25, 2019, 02:25:44 AM
Quote from: Local Trouble on Nov 25, 2019, 12:08:00 AM
Any references to Colonel Dr. Church yet?
Haven't found one yet, I was actually just talking about that with SiL not too long ago. I haven't gone page by page through the book yet, just been flipping to random sections.


The book references actual narrative elements from Gibson's Alien3 draft beyond just the existence of the UPP - such as Anchorpoint Station (and its destruction) and the nuclear proliferation treaty (although in the RPG's narrative, it was the Patna, the WY ship from 'Alien3', that violates the treaty on its way to Fury 161 rather than the Sulaco drifting towards Anchorpoint station).
It also comes up with this elaborate public coverup story for 'Alien3', with an actual cholera outbreak that the prisoners tried to contain by burning it out with quinitricetalyne, which catastrophically exploded and then the Patna (a medical ship) showed up to assist and there was only one survivor.
Also the team deployed to catch the Alien in A3 have the in-house name of "the Dog Catchers". :D

The Phased Plasma Pulse Rifle is from 'Aliens: Colonial Marines', as is the model designation for the pulse rifle grenade launcher, and the book uses the model designation name from A:CM for the pump-action shotgun but the image is different - it's not the shotgun from AvP2, AvP2010, or Colonial Marines. It's not a SPAS-12 although it's got some design elements reminiscent of it.
If they were going to crib stuff from A:CM I think the submachine gun would have been a smart call, but maybe they're saving it for a hypothetical "weapons and gear" expansion.

The "heavy pulse rifle" also reminds me of something, I think there was a barrel extension in Colonial Marines?

This book is wild, and it's giving me the biggest nerd-boner.

Edit -- the heavy pulse rifle is from the CMTM, but it uses the image for the Weyland Storm Rifle (https://www.avpcentral.com/pulse-rifle-variants) from the 'Prometheus' viral marketing. Per that same link there is an image for the heavy pulse rifle, but I don't know if it's fan-art or what.

Edit again-- A:CM does have a barrel extension (https://i.pinimg.com/originals/73/a0/40/73a040136894ed3edea49d66b3335796.jpg), and the image in the RPG seems to be a hybrid of the Storm Rifle and A:CM designs.

Edit the third-- the Heavy Pulse Rifle design from the AvPCentral page is fan art (https://www.deviantart.com/omegafactor90/art/M41-Pulse-Rifle-74226285).
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Local Trouble on Nov 25, 2019, 06:06:34 AM
Does it go into detail about the history of the UPP?
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: The Old One on Nov 25, 2019, 12:08:32 PM
It does, the extensiveness of the book is crazy- it's near perfect.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: [cancerblack] on Nov 25, 2019, 09:07:49 PM
Quote from: Xenomrph on Nov 25, 2019, 02:25:44 AM

If they were going to crib stuff from A:CM I think the submachine gun would have been a smart call, but maybe they're saving it for a hypothetical "weapons and gear" expansion.

Agreed, prolly the best thing that game added.

QuoteThe "heavy pulse rifle" also reminds me of something, I think there was a barrel extension in Colonial Marines?


It shows up in the boardgame too:

(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcTYsLniznIfKK6yMp_6VuY6Z0b-XdASNb7xzT75qMgsesXE9xqX)


Quote from: SiL on Nov 24, 2019, 09:52:49 PM
I thought it was pretty obvious the black goo is liquid plot device and does whatever it needs to to push the story ahead.

As much as I appreciate the effort FI has put into making a codified, sensible case study of the stuff - this is unfortunately accurate and likely will continue to be how it's used in future.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: The Old One on Nov 25, 2019, 09:10:39 PM
REEEEEEEEEEEEEE, yeah...
You're probably right, I just wish someone was in charge to make sure it wasn't nonsense.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Xenomrph on Nov 25, 2019, 09:48:19 PM
Quote from: [cancerblack] on Nov 25, 2019, 09:07:49 PM
Quote from: Xenomrph on Nov 25, 2019, 02:25:44 AM

If they were going to crib stuff from A:CM I think the submachine gun would have been a smart call, but maybe they're saving it for a hypothetical "weapons and gear" expansion.

Agreed, prolly the best thing that game added.

QuoteThe "heavy pulse rifle" also reminds me of something, I think there was a barrel extension in Colonial Marines?


It shows up in the boardgame too:

(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcTYsLniznIfKK6yMp_6VuY6Z0b-XdASNb7xzT75qMgsesXE9xqX)


Quote from: SiL on Nov 24, 2019, 09:52:49 PM
I thought it was pretty obvious the black goo is liquid plot device and does whatever it needs to to push the story ahead.

As much as I appreciate the effort FI has put into making a codified, sensible case study of the stuff - this is unfortunately accurate and likely will continue to be how it's used in future.
Does the board game refer to that as a heavy pulse rifle?
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Local Trouble on Nov 25, 2019, 10:02:32 PM
Quote from: Fiendishly Inventive on Nov 25, 2019, 12:08:32 PM
It does, the extensiveness of the book is crazy- it's near perfect.

I would like to know more.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: [cancerblack] on Nov 25, 2019, 10:30:59 PM
Quote from: Xenomrph on Nov 25, 2019, 09:48:19 PM
Quote from: [cancerblack] on Nov 25, 2019, 09:07:49 PM
Quote from: Xenomrph on Nov 25, 2019, 02:25:44 AM

If they were going to crib stuff from A:CM I think the submachine gun would have been a smart call, but maybe they're saving it for a hypothetical "weapons and gear" expansion.

Agreed, prolly the best thing that game added.

QuoteThe "heavy pulse rifle" also reminds me of something, I think there was a barrel extension in Colonial Marines?


It shows up in the boardgame too:

(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcTYsLniznIfKK6yMp_6VuY6Z0b-XdASNb7xzT75qMgsesXE9xqX)


Quote from: SiL on Nov 24, 2019, 09:52:49 PM
I thought it was pretty obvious the black goo is liquid plot device and does whatever it needs to to push the story ahead.

As much as I appreciate the effort FI has put into making a codified, sensible case study of the stuff - this is unfortunately accurate and likely will continue to be how it's used in future.
Does the board game refer to that as a heavy pulse rifle?

Yes. It's a lot longer, bulkier and has a much bigger mag than the standard ones, i can take a pic in a bit.


(https://i.imgur.com/WoBmXKQ.jpg)

Roughly twice the size of the standard rifle. Note that I removed the longer barrel on this one.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Nov 26, 2019, 09:21:08 AM
The card refers to it as a heavy too IIRC.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: [cancerblack] on Nov 26, 2019, 09:33:23 AM
The card does, and all custom-builds in both the boardgame and wargame provide the option.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Alien Primordial Origin on Nov 27, 2019, 05:24:15 AM
Does it acknowledged the event in Alien: Out of the Shadow or the existence of LV-178 and the Drukathi or not ??
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: SM on Nov 27, 2019, 05:32:37 AM
LV-178 is on the map.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Alien Primordial Origin on Nov 27, 2019, 05:40:21 AM
What about the Drukathi?
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: SM on Nov 27, 2019, 06:19:15 AM
I haven't read that much of it yet, but I don't think the Drukathi rate a mention.  There's no crossover into AvP where the Drukathi are fleshed out some 500 years after the games timeframe.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: The Old One on Nov 27, 2019, 12:50:12 PM
If only that was a rule for the RPG, but that LV-223 Rumor Control section is in the Corebook.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Nov 27, 2019, 01:45:49 PM
I think he means more that we don't actually learn about the Drukathi for another 500 years after the game's setting.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Local Trouble on Nov 27, 2019, 06:45:19 PM
Are these Drukathi a welcome addition to the Alien universe?
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: SM on Nov 27, 2019, 07:08:45 PM
From memory we don't know that much about them really other than they had some very advanced biotechnology a very long time ago.  And Predators don't like them.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: The Old One on Nov 27, 2019, 07:20:02 PM
Yeah, that's the good kind of universe extension. The opposite of F&S/L&D/The Rage War.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Local Trouble on Nov 27, 2019, 07:21:23 PM
What's wrong with The Rage War?
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: The Old One on Nov 27, 2019, 07:22:36 PM
It's easier to list what's right about it.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Local Trouble on Nov 27, 2019, 07:22:56 PM
Tier?
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: SM on Nov 27, 2019, 07:36:51 PM
Quote from: Local Trouble on Nov 27, 2019, 07:21:23 PM
What's wrong with The Rage War?

Not much.  The dates are a bit messed up, but overall it's good fun.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Local Trouble on Nov 27, 2019, 07:49:18 PM
How does it compare to TCF?
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: The Old One on Nov 27, 2019, 08:24:34 PM
It's garbage, even without comparison.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Local Trouble on Nov 27, 2019, 08:56:59 PM
I'm getting mixed reviews here.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: The Old One on Nov 27, 2019, 08:58:08 PM
Haha, indeed I think that's the nature of things.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Nov 27, 2019, 09:06:05 PM
Nah, it's not garbage at all. It doesn't weigh up to TCF, but it's solid, all around fun! Very different feel to the rest of the EU, a sort of softer hard sci-fi.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: The Old One on Nov 27, 2019, 09:08:51 PM
It's worthless, by the time you know a character's name, they're dead, Aliens wear breathing masks, in addition to other ridiculous things of that nature, nanomachines son and it just shits on the tone of the first three Alien films in general.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Nov 27, 2019, 09:13:19 PM
Quote from: Fiendishly Inventive on Nov 27, 2019, 09:08:51 PM
It's worthless, by the time you know a character's name, they're dead, Aliens wear breathing masks, in addition to other ridiculous things of that nature, nanomachines son and it just shits on the tone of the first three Alien films in general.

That I will give you, but the rest no. I liked the approach to telling a larger scale story.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: The Old One on Nov 27, 2019, 09:15:53 PM
I LOVED the idea, but the execution is a total mess. I wish it was half the series other people appear to believe it is.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Local Trouble on Nov 27, 2019, 09:21:39 PM
Is it canon?
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: The Old One on Nov 27, 2019, 09:23:00 PM
To- The Alien series?
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Local Trouble on Nov 27, 2019, 09:24:35 PM
Yeah.  Predator's canon doesn't matter.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: The Old One on Nov 27, 2019, 09:25:27 PM
I think anything within the AVP sphere is considered it's own thing.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Xiggz456 on Nov 27, 2019, 09:46:23 PM
Quote from: SM on Nov 27, 2019, 07:36:51 PM
Quote from: Local Trouble on Nov 27, 2019, 07:21:23 PM
What's wrong with The Rage War?

Not much.  The dates are a bit messed up, but overall it's good fun.

I gave these a re-read earlier this year and noticed the dates didn't line up with "Sea of Sorrows". But other than that I really enjoy The Rage War. The devastation in those novels are on another level and I love it haha
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Voodoo Magic on Nov 27, 2019, 10:01:26 PM
Quote from: Fiendishly Inventive on Nov 27, 2019, 09:25:27 PM
I think anything within the AVP sphere is considered it's own thing.

I'm always here to remind you AvP Fire and Stone is canon to Alien. ;)
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: SM on Nov 27, 2019, 10:13:54 PM
Quote from: Local Trouble on Nov 27, 2019, 07:49:18 PM
How does it compare to TCF?

TCF is better.  But also VERY different, so unfair to compare.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: The Old One on Nov 27, 2019, 10:15:51 PM
If any other media returns to LV-223 and contradicts the DH series, (more than other stuff already does) does that mean it's no longer canon or it's just the reality within the AVP Verse or something else?
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Local Trouble on Nov 28, 2019, 12:01:25 AM
I think a devoted apocryphile like Xenomrph would still claim it could all fit.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: The Old One on Nov 28, 2019, 12:01:59 AM
Personally, even if for instance one of the stories I didn't enjoy is actually good, from the standpoint of sitting by itself- the best one of them say, I still can't get past the contrivances of it that support most of them.

Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Local Trouble on Nov 28, 2019, 12:09:01 AM
Since the RPG includes Corporal Hicks, I wonder if it references a mysterious character who speaks in short sentences and is known only by his initials.

Spoiler
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FJJ6kIUX.png&hash=02e9abb00797c560dc6f40fe639df6eedbc5cf11)
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Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: The Old One on Nov 28, 2019, 12:22:09 AM
I won't say what I think on that one. lol
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Ultramorph on Nov 28, 2019, 01:03:23 AM
The Drukathi are an awesome addition to the lore, and I love them. Rage War might not be the best piece of fiction in this particular series, but I've seldom been as excited for anything AvP as I was the first time I read Predator: Incursion. I kept stopping and saying to myself "wow, they're actually doing this!" in a good way.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: The Old One on Nov 28, 2019, 01:04:29 AM
Yeah, I agree it was a great idea, a great setup and the Drukathi is how it ought to be done.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Xenomrph on Nov 28, 2019, 02:26:36 AM
Quote from: Fiendishly Inventive on Nov 27, 2019, 10:15:51 PM
If any other media returns to LV-223 and contradicts the DH series, (more than other stuff already does) does that mean it's no longer canon or it's just the reality within the AVP Verse or something else?

Just a reminder that contradiction =/= "not canon".

Quote from: Local Trouble on Nov 27, 2019, 09:21:39 PM
Is it canon?
Yes.
Quote from: Local Trouble on Nov 28, 2019, 12:01:25 AM
I think a devoted apocryphile like Xenomrph would still claim it could all fit.
Well I mean, obviously it can.

The RPG references the Kenner comics more than once. Like I've been saying for years, they (reads: elements of them) are canon. :P
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: The Old One on Nov 28, 2019, 02:31:39 AM
I know &
I don't deny aspects of them, probably exist in the canon- for instance the space station from AVP 1999 being included means the location is canon, something that I really liked seeing, but even as the original has no story to speak of- that "campaign" is not necessarily canon. But as with the original Alien³ -Aliens DH published sequel series, a point does emerge when a contradiction becomes unworkable. And the viewer chooses which to prioritize. Even if an official outline is followed by 20th Century Fox.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Local Trouble on Nov 28, 2019, 02:48:52 AM
Quote from: Fiendishly Inventive on Nov 28, 2019, 02:31:39 AMa point does emerge when a contradiction becomes unworkable.

Try him.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: The Old One on Nov 28, 2019, 02:50:10 AM
I really love the book's repurposing of... not as believable aspects. Such as stuff from the "Old EU" reintegrated. Also regardless of my neverending contempt for F&S/L&D/The Rage War/OotS/RoP/SoS, if I was able to change one thing about the book, it's the Alien itself that takes priority, because the section on it's such a mess, the AVPE Bestiary format is so much more simple, believable and more potentially expansive than what the team behind it ultimately went with.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Xenomrph on Nov 28, 2019, 02:53:20 AM
Quote from: Fiendishly Inventive on Nov 28, 2019, 02:31:39 AM
a point does emerge when a contradiction becomes unworkable.
The "problem" with this line of thinking is that "canon" and "continuity" aren't synonyms. A lot of people treat them like they are and that's perfectly fine, but conceptually that's never been the case.

I'm not talking about a "canon debate", or even "canon" as it specifically applies to the Alien franchise, I'm talking "canon" as a universal concept. "Canon" means "that which is accepted as genuine" (who is doing the "accepting" is another discussion entirely), and that's got nothing to do with continuity.

Again I'm not even talking about Alien canon or looking for a canon debate, although I do find the concept genuinely interesting and wouldn't mind talking about it in PMs or whatever. This post is more of food for thought. :)

Quotethe AVPE Bestiary format is so much more simple, believable and more potentially expansive
I take it you're referring to the AvP: Extinction video game? I loved the bestiary in that, I thought it was awesome that they tried to include semi-plausible explanations for obviously wacky gameplay conventions and ideas, it was a great touch. I like the Predator backstories that NECA writes up for their Kenner remakes for the same reason.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: The Old One on Nov 28, 2019, 03:04:13 AM
I guess the term Canon often worked for myself also though because I generally don't hold what I consider "non-continuity" I guess is the correct term, in particular high esteem, but that's not always the case. Particularly I can think of a number of good DH works that I don't consider part of the "continuity" none obtrusive to the current continuity though- yet.

Yes, the Extinction Bestiary- I thought it was a great way of simplifying the caste system, apart from the Drone/Warrior distinction.

I felt the RPG really went overboard with needless complexity in that regard.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Xenomrph on Nov 28, 2019, 03:30:18 AM
Quote from: Fiendishly Inventive on Nov 28, 2019, 03:04:13 AM
Yes, the Extinction Bestiary- I thought it was a great way of simplifying the caste system, apart from the Drone/Warrior distinction.

I felt the RPG really went overboard with needless complexity in that regard.
I didn't really get the vibe that AvPE was "simplifying" anything, but the bestiary was a classy attempt at taking really obviously game-centric concepts and trying to rationalize them "in universe", and I appreciated that.

I haven't read the RPG's chapter about Aliens yet, but I imagine having a bunch of codified Alien "types" is similarly for game purposes, so that the GM and players have some options on what they might face and to give some kind of structure to that. It's like the AvPE bestiary, but tackling it from a different direction.

I'm not saying the RPG's approach is necessarily the right way to do it, but I understand it. Players enjoy games (of all types) more when it "makes sense" and it doesn't feel like they're being cheated or they absolutely can't win.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: The Old One on Nov 28, 2019, 03:32:16 AM
Just say what you think when you see it, I get what you're saying, and I don't even see an issue with nearly any of the text itself in the section, but the terminology, organisation and methodology for each Alien version existing is a mess, even from the perspective of someone who accepts all Alien variation it's not great to navigate.

Especially in comparison to AVPE's design, I suppose simplify wasn't the correct term but it's certainly easier to understand while remaining believably complex, it struck the balance.

And I don't like the suggestions it described on the penultimate page, but that's not much of importance.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Local Trouble on Nov 28, 2019, 06:51:11 AM
I was expecting a furious canon war by now.  :(
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: SM on Nov 28, 2019, 07:24:52 AM
Quote from: Local Trouble on Nov 28, 2019, 12:09:01 AM
Since the RPG includes Corporal Hicks, I wonder if it references a mysterious character who speaks in short sentences and is known only by his initials.

Spoiler
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FJJ6kIUX.png&hash=02e9abb00797c560dc6f40fe639df6eedbc5cf11)
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Bitch I got a film character named after me.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Xenomrph on Nov 28, 2019, 08:25:30 AM
Quote from: Local Trouble on Nov 28, 2019, 06:51:11 AM
I was expecting a furious canon war by now.  :(
How do you know there isn't a high-stakes covert war happening right under your nose right this very second?
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: SiL on Nov 28, 2019, 10:41:28 AM
Quote from: SM on Nov 28, 2019, 07:24:52 AM
Quote from: Local Trouble on Nov 28, 2019, 12:09:01 AM
Since the RPG includes Corporal Hicks, I wonder if it references a mysterious character who speaks in short sentences and is known only by his initials.

Spoiler
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FJJ6kIUX.png&hash=02e9abb00797c560dc6f40fe639df6eedbc5cf11)
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Bitch I got a film character named after me.
Which one?
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: SM on Nov 28, 2019, 11:29:17 AM
(https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/avp/images/f/f2/Gorman.png/revision/latest?cb=20150131234109)
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Voodoo Magic on Nov 28, 2019, 12:56:45 PM
Quote from: Xenomrph on Nov 28, 2019, 08:25:30 AM
Quote from: Local Trouble on Nov 28, 2019, 06:51:11 AM
I was expecting a furious canon war by now.  :(
How do you know there isn't a high-stakes covert war happening right under your nose right this very second?

Okay, this made me laugh out loud.  :D
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Xenomrph on Nov 28, 2019, 01:36:43 PM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Nov 28, 2019, 12:56:45 PM
Quote from: Xenomrph on Nov 28, 2019, 08:25:30 AM
Quote from: Local Trouble on Nov 28, 2019, 06:51:11 AM
I was expecting a furious canon war by now.  :(
How do you know there isn't a high-stakes covert war happening right under your nose right this very second?

Okay, this made me laugh out loud.  :D
Kind sir the Canon Cold War is no laughing matter.  >:(
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Nov 28, 2019, 02:26:52 PM
Quote from: SM on Nov 28, 2019, 11:29:17 AM
(https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/avp/images/f/f2/Gorman.png/revision/latest?cb=20150131234109)

Nah man, his name is William. Pft Scott.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Xenomrph on Nov 28, 2019, 04:59:18 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Nov 28, 2019, 02:26:52 PM
Quote from: SM on Nov 28, 2019, 11:29:17 AM
(https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/avp/images/f/f2/Gorman.png/revision/latest?cb=20150131234109)

Nah man, his name is William. Pft Scott.
He's referring to the WY Report, Perry put Gorman's name as Scott Gorman as a nod to SM.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Nov 28, 2019, 05:27:53 PM
I know.  :P I was poking fun.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: SM on Nov 28, 2019, 07:14:41 PM
William, Schmilliam.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Local Trouble on Nov 28, 2019, 08:33:24 PM
He's not enigmatic enough though.  He talks too much and isn't obscured by shadows.

Quote from: Xenomrph on Nov 28, 2019, 08:25:30 AM
Quote from: Local Trouble on Nov 28, 2019, 06:51:11 AM
I was expecting a furious canon war by now.  :(

How do you know there isn't a high-stakes covert war happening right under your nose right this very second?

I want in.  >:(
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Xenomrph on Nov 28, 2019, 09:24:07 PM
Quote from: Local Trouble on Nov 28, 2019, 08:33:24 PM
He's not enigmatic enough though.  He talks too much and isn't obscured by shadows
Gorman?

How do you know his bumbling wet-behind-the-ears demeanor wasn't a carefully crafted facade?
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Local Trouble on Nov 28, 2019, 09:27:52 PM
He should be more like Illusive Man from Mass Effect.  We could call him Shadowy Man for the Alien universe though.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: FenGiddel on Nov 28, 2019, 09:52:35 PM
Quote from: SM on Nov 28, 2019, 07:14:41 PM
William, Schmilliam.
This one gets me misty-eyed...


(https://thenostromofilesblog.files.wordpress.com/2019/11/scott-gorman-middlebrook-c_a_u_-copy.png)
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: SM on Nov 28, 2019, 10:09:02 PM
 :laugh:
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Local Trouble on Nov 28, 2019, 10:11:09 PM
CRU?
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: FenGiddel on Nov 28, 2019, 10:17:43 PM
"C. A. U."

"If I tol' ya, I'd have ta kill ya..."

But then, maybe not:

Spoiler
As in "Canny. Analytical. Undeviating."
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Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Local Trouble on Nov 29, 2019, 12:46:03 AM
Are those the words on the seal of your secret society?
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: The Old One on Nov 29, 2019, 01:08:24 AM
I genuinely prefer Shadow Man haha.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Local Trouble on Nov 29, 2019, 01:39:31 AM
Shadow Man's theme is entitled "Quite."

Spoiler
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KMd4YiURoA
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Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Huggs on Nov 29, 2019, 01:58:44 AM
Quote from: Local Trouble on Nov 29, 2019, 01:39:31 AM
Shadow Man's theme is entitled "Quite."


And what if that S stands for Sister, and it's really a smoking hot Nun that you've been talking to this whole time?
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: FenGiddel on Nov 29, 2019, 02:30:39 AM
Quote from: Huggs on Nov 29, 2019, 01:58:44 AM
Quote from: Local Trouble on Nov 29, 2019, 01:39:31 AM
Shadow Man's theme is entitled "Quite."


And what if that S stands for Sister, and it's really a smoking hot Nun that you've been talking to this whole time?
:D
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Local Trouble on Nov 29, 2019, 02:57:53 AM
Then I'll have a lot to atone for before Sister Mary will forgive me my transgressions.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: SM on Nov 29, 2019, 04:11:46 AM
Think of a ball of steel the size of ten suns.  Every million years a butterfly flies past and brushes its wings against it.  When that ball has worn down to nothing, your suffering will only have just begun.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Local Trouble on Nov 29, 2019, 04:58:43 AM
Quote from: SM on Nov 29, 2019, 04:11:46 AM
Think of a ball of steel the size of ten suns.

No problem, I have two of them.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Huggs on Nov 29, 2019, 05:24:15 AM
Quote from: Local Trouble on Nov 29, 2019, 04:58:43 AM
Quote from: SM on Nov 29, 2019, 04:11:46 AM
Think of a ball of steel the size of ten suns.

No problem, I have two of them.

Spoiler
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SLuW-GBaJ8k
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Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Xenomrph on Nov 29, 2019, 07:59:18 AM
Quote from: Local Trouble on Nov 29, 2019, 04:58:43 AM
Quote from: SM on Nov 29, 2019, 04:11:46 AM
Think of a ball of steel the size of ten suns.

No problem, I have two of them.
:D
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Still Collating... on Nov 29, 2019, 10:01:18 AM
Quote from: SM on Nov 29, 2019, 04:11:46 AM
Think of a ball of steel the size of ten suns.  Every million years a butterfly flies past and brushes its wings against it.  When that ball has worn down to nothing, your suffering will only have just begun.

I know of a certain humanoid alien that wouldn't have a problem with that...
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: SM on Nov 30, 2019, 06:09:02 AM
Quote from: Local Trouble on Nov 29, 2019, 04:58:43 AM
Quote from: SM on Nov 29, 2019, 04:11:46 AM
Think of a ball of steel the size of ten suns.

No problem, I have two of them.

Yeah, pay that.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: razeak on Dec 02, 2019, 06:23:46 PM
Quote from: Fiendishly Inventive on Nov 27, 2019, 09:08:51 PM
It's worthless, by the time you know a character's name, they're dead, Aliens wear breathing masks, in addition to other ridiculous things of that nature, nanomachines son and it just shits on the tone of the first three Alien films in general.

While I enjoyed it overall if I disconnect it a little, and found issue with the same things you did, I swear if I had to read a sentence that read "Mains let loose nano shot" any more I think I would have burned my kindle.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: The Old One on Dec 02, 2019, 08:52:22 PM
I returned the book as soon as possible.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: SM on Dec 03, 2019, 07:42:31 AM
Quote from: razeak on Dec 02, 2019, 06:23:46 PM
Quote from: Fiendishly Inventive on Nov 27, 2019, 09:08:51 PM
It's worthless, by the time you know a character's name, they're dead, Aliens wear breathing masks, in addition to other ridiculous things of that nature, nanomachines son and it just shits on the tone of the first three Alien films in general.

While I enjoyed it overall if I disconnect it a little, and found issue with the same things you did, I swear if I had to read a sentence that read "Mains let loose nano shot" any more I think I would have burned my kindle.

Nano shot was a good idea, but yeah that phrase... Eesh...
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Dec 03, 2019, 12:26:48 PM
Pre-orders have opened back up!

https://frialigan.se/en/store/?collection_id=133130387504

Official release - and I assume shipping from - is the 10th of December.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Xiggz456 on Dec 03, 2019, 05:27:47 PM
LOVE the artwork on page 204
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: The Old One on Dec 04, 2019, 03:59:27 PM
I love all the artwork, and most everything about the book, even the nature of the class system.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Xiggz456 on Dec 05, 2019, 06:19:20 PM
Some throwback references to the old EU include "the church of immaculate incubation" who apparently are a remnant of the Earthsavers from the Covenant Origins novel (that's one way to bridge the EU). One of the major corporations Mentioned is Bionational from book 1. And a xeno hiveworld called G-435 which was the planetoid from Earth War and Genocide. As well as Bracken's World from the "Colonial Marines" comic.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: The Old One on Dec 05, 2019, 07:30:38 PM
Yeah, it's great the way it reintegrates and tones down old EU material.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Dec 06, 2019, 09:52:19 AM
https://rpggods.org/2019/11/23/i-alien-an-alien-rpg-hack/

The rules for that facehugger session that Effekt ran.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Xenomrph on Dec 06, 2019, 03:53:17 PM
Quote from: Xiggz456 on Dec 05, 2019, 06:19:20 PM
Some throwback references to the old EU include "the church of immaculate incubation" who apparently are a remnant of the Earthsavers from the Covenant Origins novel (that's one way to bridge the EU). One of the major corporations Mentioned is Bionational from book 1. And a xeno hiveworld called G-435 which was the planetoid from Earth War and Genocide. As well as Bracken's World from the "Colonial Marines" comic.
This book f**king rules.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Still Collating... on Dec 06, 2019, 10:56:45 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Dec 06, 2019, 09:52:19 AM
https://rpggods.org/2019/11/23/i-alien-an-alien-rpg-hack/

The rules for that facehugger session that Effekt ran.

That whole session was actually fantastic. I believe it has a lot of potential, to actually play as an alien. Completely different type of atmosphere, but could work especially for the seasoned AVP players.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: The Old One on Dec 08, 2019, 08:00:54 PM
Most impressive.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: HuDaFuK on Dec 09, 2019, 04:48:51 PM
Currently reading through the pdf as I await the book. So many references it's making my head hurt :laugh:

One in particular has jumped out at me though - talk of high-security prison cells on space stations that are kept in permanent vacuum and zero gravity, with prisoners suspended in space suits within. Does this mean Outland is finally an official part of the franchise? :P
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Local Trouble on Dec 09, 2019, 07:52:02 PM
Does it mention Conglomerates Amalgamated?
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Dec 11, 2019, 08:08:15 AM
The RPG was officially released yesterday!

Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Xiggz456 on Dec 11, 2019, 03:59:52 PM
My local comic shop holds TTRPG sessions every weekend so I'm gonna ask if there's any chance they could get a group to play. After reading the rule book I'm really wanting to give it a go!
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: HuDaFuK on Dec 11, 2019, 05:00:59 PM
My physical copies arrived today! ;D
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: The Old One on Dec 11, 2019, 05:48:54 PM
Finally, let us know what you think.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: HuDaFuK on Dec 11, 2019, 06:11:40 PM
I'd already had a scan through bits of the pdf, so I knew it was going to look fantastic. Probably gonna take me a while to go through the whole thing in detail though :)
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Local Trouble on Dec 11, 2019, 06:53:04 PM
Can you make a comprehensive list of its flaws like you did for TCF?
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: HuDaFuK on Dec 11, 2019, 06:59:28 PM
The Cold Forge doesn't have "flaws" >:(

Just a few things Alex White overlooked :)
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: The Old One on Dec 12, 2019, 09:46:37 PM
Yes, indeed, you're right.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: TheBATMAN on Dec 13, 2019, 01:15:15 AM
Received it today. What a beautiful book.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: The Old One on Dec 13, 2019, 02:45:27 PM
Yes, indeed it is, I only take issue with the layout of some pages mainly.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Dec 13, 2019, 06:54:28 PM
Come-on, Trouble. Stop baiting.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Alien Primordial Origin on Dec 14, 2019, 07:22:29 AM
What about the site on LV-426 where the juggernaut and the space jockey are located? Are the eggs still there?

And what happen to the Sulaco after the event of Alien 3?

Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Xenomrph on Dec 14, 2019, 08:07:41 PM
Quote from: Alien Primordial Origin on Dec 14, 2019, 07:22:29 AM
What about the site on LV-426 where the juggernaut and the space jockey are located? Are the eggs still there?

And what happen to the Sulaco after the event of Alien 3?


the Derelict and the Juggernaut are different ships, and I remember someone up-thread mentioning that the RPG is ambiguous as to the fate of the ship and its cargo.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: The Old One on Dec 14, 2019, 08:45:16 PM
Yes, that's myself I believe.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Voodoo Magic on Dec 15, 2019, 03:17:19 AM
Quote from: Fiendishly Inventive on Dec 14, 2019, 08:45:16 PM
Yes, that's myself I believe.

Yourself is awesome.

Gnite all. Drank way to much.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: The Old One on Dec 15, 2019, 11:18:51 PM
Gnight you.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Local Trouble on Dec 16, 2019, 12:51:28 AM
Quote from: Xenomrph on Dec 14, 2019, 08:07:41 PMthe Derelict and the Juggernaut are different ships, and I remember someone up-thread mentioning that the RPG is ambiguous as to the fate of the ship and its cargo.

But wouldn't Ripley make sure it was gone before leaving orbit?
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: HuDaFuK on Dec 16, 2019, 08:47:46 AM
Yeah, I find it hard to believe she wouldn't have had Bishop or Hicks help her dump some nukes on it before they left.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: The Old One on Dec 16, 2019, 04:28:57 PM
Yeah, in my opinion it's gone, but then again the Prometheus crashed into the Juggernaut and barely caused a scratch so who knows.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Local Trouble on Dec 16, 2019, 05:11:35 PM
Although volcanic activity damaged the derelict between Alien and Aliens.  I think nukes would do even more.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: FenGiddel on Dec 16, 2019, 09:07:40 PM
Ah, what's a few kilotons between friends?
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: The Old One on Dec 16, 2019, 09:10:46 PM
Yes actually yeah if volcanic activity did damage it, it's likely destroyed.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Xenomrph on Dec 18, 2019, 09:41:22 PM
Quote from: Fiendishly Inventive on Dec 16, 2019, 09:10:46 PM
Yes actually yeah if volcanic activity did damage it, it's likely destroyed.
It's behind a mountain range, which shielded it.

As for Ripley not nuking it, she may have been unaware of the mountain range and assumed it was destroyed, when it actually wasn't.

Also this is the same Ripley that didn't bother sweeping the Sulaco for more Aliens and missing 1-2 eggs, directly resulting in her death and the death of her friends. Missing the Derelict is entirely in-character.:P

I'm of the opinion that the Derelict is still there, waiting for another luckless soul to stumble across it.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Local Trouble on Dec 18, 2019, 09:45:16 PM
But she actually knew about the derelict.  Time to face facts and mourn its passing.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Xenomrph on Dec 18, 2019, 10:02:25 PM
Quote from: Local Trouble on Dec 18, 2019, 09:45:16 PM
But she actually knew about the derelict.  Time to face facts and mourn its passing.
She knows that Queens make eggs and that Aliens are crafty bastards and you can never be too careful, too. :P

She knew about the derelict, but didn't know necessarily where it was in relation to anything. Also she doesn't know how to launch nukes, and the two people who might are either in a coma or in pieces. Also she's very tired and it's time for everyone to take a nap and go home. She goofed, and the Derelict remains. :)
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: The Old One on Dec 18, 2019, 10:04:02 PM
According to the film itself, if the main menu is to be believed it's one or none onboard the Sulaco just as with the Narcissus/Nostromo. Beyond the Alien Trilogy for the Derelict personally I think it's gone because any source other than Isolation and Infestation, that's included it is garbage, so far. And any good GM will refuse to go back to LV-426 anyway.  :)
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Xenomrph on Dec 18, 2019, 10:09:34 PM
Quote from: Fiendishly Inventive on Dec 18, 2019, 10:04:02 PM
According to the film itself, if the main menu is to be believed it's one or none onboard the Sulaco just as with the Narcissus/Nostromo. Beyond the Alien Trilogy for the Derelict personally I think it's gone because any source other than Isolation and Infestation, that's included it is garbage, so far. And any good GM will refuse to go back to LV-426 anyway.
Gonna disagree on "garbage", it's in both AvPClassic and the CMTM.

Also I'm having trouble parsing your first sentence, what do you mean?
As for the last sentence, that's kind of irrelevant. The whole reason the RPG made it ambiguous is specifically so GMs could go back there and interact with the Derelict if they wanted to. :P
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: The Old One on Dec 18, 2019, 10:12:44 PM
CMTM is good yes, but it's not like anyone's breeding Aliens out of the Derelict or something idiotic like that, and AVP Classic being more Arcade like/barely/does not tell a story to begin with so I missed out on it. I referred to the number of Alien creatures concealing themselves aboard vessels. Yeah, the RPG's got a number of mistakes, but the good greatly outweighs the bad.  ;D
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Local Trouble on Dec 18, 2019, 10:24:41 PM
Quote from: Xenomrph on Dec 18, 2019, 10:02:25 PM
Quote from: Local Trouble on Dec 18, 2019, 09:45:16 PM
But she actually knew about the derelict.  Time to face facts and mourn its passing.

She knows that Queens make eggs and that Aliens are crafty bastards and you can never be too careful, too. :P

She knew about the derelict, but didn't know necessarily where it was in relation to anything. Also she doesn't know how to launch nukes, and the two people who might are either in a coma or in pieces. Also she's very tired and it's time for everyone to take a nap and go home. She goofed, and the Derelict remains. :)

What does SM usually say to that?
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Xenomrph on Dec 18, 2019, 10:25:52 PM
Quote from: Local Trouble on Dec 18, 2019, 10:24:41 PM
Quote from: Xenomrph on Dec 18, 2019, 10:02:25 PM
Quote from: Local Trouble on Dec 18, 2019, 09:45:16 PM
But she actually knew about the derelict.  Time to face facts and mourn its passing.

She knows that Queens make eggs and that Aliens are crafty bastards and you can never be too careful, too. :P

She knew about the derelict, but didn't know necessarily where it was in relation to anything. Also she doesn't know how to launch nukes, and the two people who might are either in a coma or in pieces. Also she's very tired and it's time for everyone to take a nap and go home. She goofed, and the Derelict remains. :)

What does SM usually say to that?
His opinions, which he's entitled to :)
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: SM on Dec 18, 2019, 10:55:00 PM
Quote from: Local Trouble on Dec 18, 2019, 10:24:41 PM
Quote from: Xenomrph on Dec 18, 2019, 10:02:25 PM
Quote from: Local Trouble on Dec 18, 2019, 09:45:16 PM
But she actually knew about the derelict.  Time to face facts and mourn its passing.

She knows that Queens make eggs and that Aliens are crafty bastards and you can never be too careful, too. :P

She knew about the derelict, but didn't know necessarily where it was in relation to anything. Also she doesn't know how to launch nukes, and the two people who might are either in a coma or in pieces. Also she's very tired and it's time for everyone to take a nap and go home. She goofed, and the Derelict remains. :)

What does SM usually say to that?

lol

Usually.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Xenomrph on Dec 18, 2019, 11:04:27 PM
Case in point
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Local Trouble on Dec 18, 2019, 11:18:12 PM
Quote from: Xenomrph on Dec 18, 2019, 11:04:27 PM
Case in point

So there's room to negotiate?
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: The Old One on Dec 18, 2019, 11:18:38 PM
I've begun to agree that he is not the arbiter of everything, especially when it comes to quality and character judgment, but he's generally reliable when it comes to the current company narrative.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Xenomrph on Dec 18, 2019, 11:25:20 PM
Quote from: Local Trouble on Dec 18, 2019, 11:18:12 PM
Quote from: Xenomrph on Dec 18, 2019, 11:04:27 PM
Case in point

So there's room to negotiate?
Sure, everyone is entitled to their own opinion. :) it's why the RPG is ambiguous
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: The Old One on Dec 18, 2019, 11:28:37 PM
Right, that's why, compromise.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Local Trouble on Dec 18, 2019, 11:32:51 PM
Even on the matter of the derelict's survival?
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Xenomrph on Dec 18, 2019, 11:36:49 PM
Quote from: Local Trouble on Dec 18, 2019, 11:32:51 PM
Even on the matter of the derelict's survival?
Oh on that? f**k no, the derelict survived and anyone who disagrees will be the first ones against the wall when the revolution comes.

Fight me.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Local Trouble on Dec 18, 2019, 11:45:39 PM
"It's gone, MacReady."
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: The Old One on Dec 18, 2019, 11:48:27 PM
Perhaps a ruin exists, but for certain- anything biological within is gone.  >:(
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Xenomrph on Dec 18, 2019, 11:50:41 PM
Quote from: Fiendishly Inventive on Dec 18, 2019, 11:48:27 PM
Perhaps a ruin exists, but for certain- anything biological within is gone.
I choose to believe otherwise.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: The Old One on Dec 18, 2019, 11:52:39 PM
That's fair enough, but because the Alien Universe is as realistic as possible, I think it's only sensible to say if it's not destroyed- it's certain anything living within because of the radiation is dead and the place is going to be inaccessible for a very long time.  ;D
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Local Trouble on Dec 19, 2019, 12:10:47 AM
Quote from: Local Trouble on Feb 02, 2017, 07:50:26 PM
Assuming the eggs on the derelict survived the explosion, the fallout and if Ripley was unable to nuke it from orbit, maybe the ECA and ICC simply quarantined LV-426.  The potential legal consequences may have been enough to deter the company from sending any ships there.

200 years later, perhaps it remained under strict quarantine and even the Auriga couldn't go there.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: FenGiddel on Dec 19, 2019, 12:25:25 AM
Quote from: Local Trouble on Dec 19, 2019, 12:10:47 AM
Quote from: Local Trouble on Feb 02, 2017, 07:50:26 PM
Assuming the eggs on the derelict survived the explosion, the fallout and if Ripley was unable to nuke it from orbit, maybe the ECA and ICC simply quarantined LV-426.  The potential legal consequences may have been enough to deter the company from sending any ships there.

200 years later, perhaps it remained under strict quarantine and even the Auriga couldn't go there.
Even 2 years later, that holds. Maybe even the fallout from the explosion would've spread planet-wide, adding to the unattractiveness?
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Local Trouble on Dec 19, 2019, 12:48:22 AM
Quote from: Local Trouble on Feb 02, 2017, 10:39:30 PM
Another possibility is that the Sulaco was equipped with automated picket drones that could be deployed as satellites around a quarantined planet.  These drones would then both transmit a warning beacon and report any violations of the quarantine back to the network.

In lieu of nuking the planet from orbit, maybe Bishop was able to assure Ripley that the company would never be able to plunder the derelict without exposing themselves.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Xenomrph on Dec 19, 2019, 01:24:06 AM
Quote from: Local Trouble on Dec 19, 2019, 12:10:47 AM
Quote from: Local Trouble on Feb 02, 2017, 07:50:26 PM
Assuming the eggs on the derelict survived the explosion, the fallout and if Ripley was unable to nuke it from orbit, maybe the ECA and ICC simply quarantined LV-426.  The potential legal consequences may have been enough to deter the company from sending any ships there.

200 years later, perhaps it remained under strict quarantine and even the Auriga couldn't go there.
I like it.

Shit, it even allows for RPG possibilities if a rogue crew wanted to breach the quarantine just to see what's so important.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Local Trouble on Dec 19, 2019, 01:38:06 AM
But it was never ratified.  :(
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: SM on Dec 19, 2019, 02:02:22 AM
Quote from: Local Trouble on Dec 19, 2019, 12:10:47 AM
Quote from: Local Trouble on Feb 02, 2017, 07:50:26 PM
Assuming the eggs on the derelict survived the explosion, the fallout and if Ripley was unable to nuke it from orbit, maybe the ECA and ICC simply quarantined LV-426.  The potential legal consequences may have been enough to deter the company from sending any ships there.

200 years later, perhaps it remained under strict quarantine and even the Auriga couldn't go there.

Why would Auriga give a shit about a planetary quarantine?
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Local Trouble on Dec 19, 2019, 02:12:10 AM
Same reason it had for staging a "cloak and dagger" operation outside of regulated space.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Xenomrph on Dec 19, 2019, 02:50:01 AM
Quote from: Local Trouble on Dec 19, 2019, 01:38:06 AM
But it was never ratified.  :(
I just did :)
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: SM on Dec 19, 2019, 02:55:35 AM
Quote from: Local Trouble on Dec 19, 2019, 02:12:10 AM
Same reason it had for staging a "cloak and dagger" operation outside of regulated space.

So, hire pirates to abduct people so they can use them for deadly medical experiments, but don't want to violate a quarantine?

Why not hire the pirates to get the eggs?
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: The Old One on Dec 19, 2019, 02:59:05 AM
Why is a question that often comes to mind watching Resurrection.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Local Trouble on Dec 19, 2019, 03:07:49 AM
Quote from: SM on Dec 19, 2019, 02:55:35 AM
Quote from: Local Trouble on Dec 19, 2019, 02:12:10 AM
Same reason it had for staging a "cloak and dagger" operation outside of regulated space.

So, hire pirates to abduct people so they can use them for deadly medical experiments, but don't want to violate a quarantine?

Yes?  I doubt they have any qualms about breaking such laws, but they certainly don't want to be caught doing so.

Quote from: SM on Dec 19, 2019, 02:55:35 AMWhy not hire the pirates to get the eggs?

I guess that all depends on how a quarantine is enforced in this scenario.  Maybe the hypothetical picket drones that I suggested before are also armed with military-grade weapons, thus preventing any violators from even approaching LV-426 without being fired on and potentially killed.

While I personally think the derelict is gone, I can't honestly argue that there aren't any other reasonable possibilities that don't necessarily break with the established canon lore.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: The Old One on Dec 19, 2019, 03:08:17 AM
My point is the information given to the viewer in AR is so nonsensical, that working around AR is really easy conceptually if you wanted to create a new Trilogy for example, that more lives in the world of Aliens and Alien³ after AR.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Local Trouble on Dec 19, 2019, 03:13:05 AM
So where do you stand on the quarantine theory?
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: HuDaFuK on Dec 19, 2019, 11:34:49 AM
I find it hard to believe the USM would go to all the effort of cloning a long-dead Ripley (especially given how clearly difficult it was to perfect) when they could just go to the derelict and grab some eggs.

Ergo, it is unequivocally gone.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Kailem on Dec 19, 2019, 12:41:40 PM
Maybe they had a bulk discount? "Clone 7 and get an 8th clone free!"
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Xenomrph on Dec 19, 2019, 03:53:33 PM
Quote from: HuDaFuK on Dec 19, 2019, 11:34:49 AM
I find it hard to believe the USM would go to all the effort of cloning a long-dead Ripley (especially given how clearly difficult it was to perfect) when they could just go to the derelict and grab some eggs.

Ergo, it is unequivocally gone.
If they aren't sure eggs are there, and there's a quarantine in place preventing them from accessing the planet, it could very well have been easier to clone Ripley "under the radar". The movie establishes that what they're doing is shady as hell, going to a quarantined planet likely would have raised a lot of uncomfortable questions they couldn't answer without raising too much suspicion and blowing the whole operation. The eggs could be there, but for all intents and purposes they might as well have not existed.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Local Trouble on Dec 19, 2019, 04:26:56 PM
Is that your canon now?
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Xenomrph on Dec 19, 2019, 04:50:27 PM
Quote from: Local Trouble on Dec 19, 2019, 04:26:56 PM
Is that your canon now?
I like the idea a lot, especially in light of the RPG. I might tweak it a bit to accommodate some other sources and events (mostly involves shifting the timeline back a little so the quarantine doesn't go into effect immediately after 'Aliens', but the end result is the same.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Local Trouble on Dec 20, 2019, 01:43:29 AM
The quarantine is also an explanation for how Ripley could have willingly left orbit without nuking the derelict first.  I'm not sure how much tweaking you can do before it totally undermines that purpose.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: SM on Dec 20, 2019, 02:13:11 AM
Quote from: HuDaFuK on Dec 19, 2019, 11:34:49 AM
I find it hard to believe the USM would go to all the effort of cloning a long-dead Ripley (especially given how clearly difficult it was to perfect) when they could just go to the derelict and grab some eggs.

Ergo, it is unequivocally gone.
^
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Local Trouble on Dec 20, 2019, 02:29:50 AM
But that upsets people.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: [cancerblack] on Dec 20, 2019, 04:18:33 AM
Quote from: Local Trouble on Dec 20, 2019, 02:29:50 AM
But that upsets people.

So do death and taxes, and they're just as unavoidable as the most reasonable conclusion being that the derelict is gone.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Xenomrph on Dec 20, 2019, 05:40:08 AM
Let's play "spot the opinion".
Quote from: [cancerblack] on Dec 20, 2019, 04:18:33 AM
Quote from: Local Trouble on Dec 20, 2019, 02:29:50 AM
But that upsets people.

So do death and taxes, and they're just as unavoidable as the most reasonable conclusion being that the derelict is gone.
Found the opinion.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: SM on Dec 20, 2019, 05:42:29 AM
Quote from: Local Trouble on Dec 20, 2019, 02:29:50 AM
But that upsets people.

So let their sets be up then.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: [cancerblack] on Dec 20, 2019, 06:30:21 AM
Quote from: Xenomrph on Dec 20, 2019, 05:40:08 AM
Let's play "spot the opinion".
Quote from: [cancerblack] on Dec 20, 2019, 04:18:33 AM
Quote from: Local Trouble on Dec 20, 2019, 02:29:50 AM
But that upsets people.

So do death and taxes, and they're just as unavoidable as the most reasonable conclusion being that the derelict is gone.
Found the opinion.

It outright is the most reasonable conclusion though. However - I'm not trying to make claims about canon so don't worry.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Xenomrph on Dec 20, 2019, 07:00:09 AM
Quote from: [cancerblack] on Dec 20, 2019, 06:30:21 AM
Quote from: Xenomrph on Dec 20, 2019, 05:40:08 AM
Let's play "spot the opinion".
Quote from: [cancerblack] on Dec 20, 2019, 04:18:33 AM
Quote from: Local Trouble on Dec 20, 2019, 02:29:50 AM
But that upsets people.

So do death and taxes, and they're just as unavoidable as the most reasonable conclusion being that the derelict is gone.
Found the opinion.

It outright is the most reasonable conclusion though.
We'll have to agree to disagree.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: razeak on Dec 20, 2019, 04:56:33 PM
How far was the colony from the derelict?
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Local Trouble on Dec 20, 2019, 05:43:51 PM
Not far enough.  ;D
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Xenomrph on Dec 20, 2019, 06:21:33 PM
Quote from: razeak on Dec 20, 2019, 04:56:33 PM
How far was the colony from the derelict?
I don't know if an exact number is given, but there's a mountain range between the colony and the derelict.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Local Trouble on Dec 20, 2019, 06:26:32 PM
Another theory...

Quote from: Local Trouble on Jul 06, 2016, 12:17:12 PM
Quote from: Primordial on Jul 06, 2016, 10:33:22 AMI remember reading a Local Trouble post, where he says the explosion triggered a volcanic activity which destroyed the ship.

It's plausible enough.  We know that the derelict was already damaged by volcanic activity between Alien and Aliens.  It's not much of a stretch to believe that a powerful nuclear explosion could trigger another eruption that finished it off.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Xenomrph on Dec 20, 2019, 06:47:55 PM
That feels really unlikely IMO. Is there even any evidence of nuclear detonations triggering major seismic activity on Earth?

Like, it's not impossible, but counting it as evidence that the ship was destroyed feels mega-spurious. It's also circular reasoning - it presupposes it was destroyed. I think it'd be more relevant if we knew for a fact that it had been destroyed, and were coming up with theories as to how it happened.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Local Trouble on Dec 20, 2019, 07:27:58 PM
Quote from: Xenomrph on Dec 20, 2019, 06:47:55 PM
That feels really unlikely IMO. Is there even any evidence of nuclear detonations triggering major seismic activity on Earth?

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-42305161
https://www.cnn.com/2017/05/02/asia/north-korea-nuclear-test-mt-paektu

It's also worth noting that North Korea's nuclear tests are puny compared to the ~40 megaton ground burst at the end of Aliens.  Hell, the biggest nuke ever detonated on Earth was the Tsar Bomba at 50 megatons, but that was at an altitude of 13,000 feet in the air.

Quote from: Xenomrph on Dec 20, 2019, 06:47:55 PM
Like, it's not impossible, but counting it as evidence that the ship was destroyed feels mega-spurious. It's also circular reasoning - it presupposes it was destroyed. I think it'd be more relevant if we knew for a fact that it had been destroyed, and were coming up with theories as to how it happened.

I do presuppose that it was destroyed on account of the fact that Alien 3 and Alien Resurrection happened.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: razeak on Dec 20, 2019, 08:57:25 PM
Quote from: Local Trouble on Dec 20, 2019, 05:43:51 PM
Not far enough.  ;D

Applause


Yeah 40 megatons would be pretty epic lol. Descriptions of Tsar Bomba are mind blowing.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Xenomrph on Dec 20, 2019, 09:02:42 PM
The CNN article is fascinating, thanks. :)

I don't see how Alien3 has any bearing on the Derelict - the CMTM directly takes it into account, in fact.

As for AR, that's a stronger case but I don't think it's bulletproof, and easy to work around (your quarantine idea, for example). Even the WYR is ambiguous aside from saying it's not a viable source of eggs as of the book's position in the timeline.

I think the RPG being ambiguous is a very fair way to handle it.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: [cancerblack] on Dec 20, 2019, 09:07:31 PM
Quote from: Xenomrph on Dec 20, 2019, 09:02:42 PM
The CNN article is fascinating, thanks. :)

I don't see how Alien3 has any bearing on the Derelict - the CMTM directly takes it into account, in fact.

As for AR, that's a stronger case but I don't think it's bulletproof, and easy to work around (your quarantine idea, for example). Even the WYR is ambiguous aside from saying it's not a viable source of eggs as of the book's position in the timeline.

Basically, one take requires ignoring some material. The other requires creating stuff from whole cloth to justify. Obviously neither are perfect, but I think most are far happier to go the reductive route.

QuoteI think the RPG being ambiguous is a very fair way to handle it.

Fair enough.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Local Trouble on Dec 20, 2019, 09:10:36 PM
Quote from: Xenomrph on Dec 20, 2019, 09:02:42 PM
I think the RPG being ambiguous is a very fair way to handle it.

That's why the quarantine theory is a thing.  Unless I missed something, it checks all the boxes.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Xenomrph on Dec 20, 2019, 09:23:35 PM
Quote from: [cancerblack] on Dec 20, 2019, 09:07:31 PM
Quote from: Xenomrph on Dec 20, 2019, 09:02:42 PM
The CNN article is fascinating, thanks. :)

I don't see how Alien3 has any bearing on the Derelict - the CMTM directly takes it into account, in fact.

As for AR, that's a stronger case but I don't think it's bulletproof, and easy to work around (your quarantine idea, for example). Even the WYR is ambiguous aside from saying it's not a viable source of eggs as of the book's position in the timeline.

Basically, one take requires ignoring some material. The other requires creating stuff from whole cloth to justify. Obviously neither are perfect, but I think most are far happier to go the reductive route.

QuoteI think the RPG being ambiguous is a very fair way to handle it.

Fair enough.
I guess I'm the outlier, I've never been a fan of reductionism. I'd much rather find ways to include things rather than exclude them.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: [cancerblack] on Dec 20, 2019, 09:30:32 PM
Quote from: Xenomrph on Dec 20, 2019, 09:23:35 PM
Quote from: [cancerblack] on Dec 20, 2019, 09:07:31 PM
Quote from: Xenomrph on Dec 20, 2019, 09:02:42 PM
The CNN article is fascinating, thanks. :)

I don't see how Alien3 has any bearing on the Derelict - the CMTM directly takes it into account, in fact.

As for AR, that's a stronger case but I don't think it's bulletproof, and easy to work around (your quarantine idea, for example). Even the WYR is ambiguous aside from saying it's not a viable source of eggs as of the book's position in the timeline.

Basically, one take requires ignoring some material. The other requires creating stuff from whole cloth to justify. Obviously neither are perfect, but I think most are far happier to go the reductive route.

QuoteI think the RPG being ambiguous is a very fair way to handle it.

Fair enough.
I guess I'm the outlier, I've never been a fan of reductionism. I'd much rather find ways to include things rather than exclude them.

Clearly. For the record, I largely agree with the idea that "there is no canon" ie; there is no distinction in "truth" between various things. However, I don't think it's a stretch to say that most people prefer a more tightly curated selection from the available options (and of course then argue over which parts should be included). As far as I'm concerned it's just different takes on the material by different creatives and I'm not overly worried about making it all fit or unpicking a "coherent" truth when viewing the existing media as a whole.

But boy howdy is the default headcanon I use to inform projects and argue shit, brutally reductive.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Xenomrph on Dec 20, 2019, 09:33:46 PM
I can respect that, that approach just isn't for me. :)
It's also part of why seeing the RPG make wacky offhand references to obscure silly shit has me cackling like a crazy person. This is some of the most fun I've had with the franchise in ages.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Local Trouble on Dec 20, 2019, 09:36:33 PM
And yet no references to Labyrinth?  That must be disappointing.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Xenomrph on Dec 20, 2019, 09:40:30 PM
Quote from: Local Trouble on Dec 20, 2019, 09:36:33 PM
And yet no references to Labyrinth?  That must be disappointing.
Maybe we just haven't found them yet, it's a real dense book. ;)
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: [cancerblack] on Dec 20, 2019, 09:54:31 PM
Quote from: Xenomrph on Dec 20, 2019, 09:33:46 PM
I can respect that, that approach just isn't for me. :)
It's also part of why seeing the RPG make wacky offhand references to obscure silly shit has me cackling like a crazy person. This is some of the most fun I've had with the franchise in ages.

I think the best way to sum up my attitude is that I'll argue heatedly about why something fairly reasonable is shit and should be ignored, then spend hundreds of hours making the whole damn Kenner range as 28mm game pieces, then probably argue for the thing I argued against a week prior because it tickles my fancy today.

But as I said:

QuoteI'm not overly worried about making it all fit or unpicking a "coherent truth"
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Xiggz456 on Dec 20, 2019, 09:59:27 PM
It doesn't reference anything from "Labryinth". But some new things I noticed were that it included Bowen's Landing, LV-492 and LV-422 from the Tongal Shorts. It also mentions the swarm from Dan Abnett's short story in "Bug Hunt" and lion-worms from the  "Echo" novel. The world building has been a real treat and the events from "Chariot of the Gods" scenario is certainly going in my canon.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Xenomrph on Dec 20, 2019, 10:11:04 PM
What are the Tongal Shorts?
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: [cancerblack] on Dec 20, 2019, 10:13:58 PM
Quote from: Xenomrph on Dec 20, 2019, 10:11:04 PM
What are the Tongal Shorts?

The short films from early in the year.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Xiggz456 on Dec 21, 2019, 03:07:22 PM
Ya what CB said. Specifically The planetoids are from Ore, Specimen, and Nightshift.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: HuDaFuK on Dec 23, 2019, 10:08:39 AM
Quote from: Xenomrph on Dec 19, 2019, 03:53:33 PMIf they aren't sure eggs are there, and there's a quarantine in place preventing them from accessing the planet, it could very well have been easier to clone Ripley "under the radar".

So get some pirates to do it "under the radar", like they literally did to acquire live human hosts despite that also being illegal as f*ck.

The film makes it pretty clear the cloning project was immensely difficult, and if you throw in the novelisation as well, it took decades to get it even half-right. The idea they'd go to all that effort when there were eggs lying about is nonsensical.

Not to mention Perez saying for all intents and presupposes Ripley wiped the Aliens out strongly implies their cloning project is the only option left.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: SM on Dec 23, 2019, 11:46:53 AM
And if you throw in the novelisation again it entirely removes the implication and outright states the Derelict was destroyed, along with the eggs with the AP Station destruction leaving a crater just a little smaller than Nebraska.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: HuDaFuK on Dec 23, 2019, 01:15:42 PM
That too.

Quote from: Xiggz456 on Dec 20, 2019, 09:59:27 PMBut some new things I noticed were that it included Bowen's Landing, LV-492 and LV-422 from the Tongal Shorts. It also mentions the swarm from Dan Abnett's short story in "Bug Hunt"...

I missed the short film nods!

I dug that the creatures from Abnett's Reaper got a mention though, as that was perhaps my favourite short from that book.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Xenomrph on Dec 23, 2019, 06:40:22 PM
Quote from: HuDaFuK on Dec 23, 2019, 10:08:39 AM
Quote from: Xenomrph on Dec 19, 2019, 03:53:33 PMIf they aren't sure eggs are there, and there's a quarantine in place preventing them from accessing the planet, it could very well have been easier to clone Ripley "under the radar".

So get some pirates to do it "under the radar", like they literally did to acquire live human hosts despite that also being illegal as f*ck.

The film makes it pretty clear the cloning project was immensely difficult, and if you throw in the novelisation as well, it took decades to get it even half-right. The idea they'd go to all that effort when there were eggs lying about is nonsensical.

Not to mention Perez saying for all intents and presupposes Ripley wiped the Aliens out strongly implies their cloning project is the only option left.
Cloning may very well have been an easier and more viable opportunity than acquiring eggs, no matter who they tasked with doing it. If the planet is under some kind of quarantine or whatever, maybe hijacking a ship and kidnapping people is the easier option.

At this point there are more sources saying the Derelict could have survived than those saying it didn't, and the ones saying it didn't are really easy to work around.
The point is that the RPG is intentionally ambiguous about it, and rightly so as it offers an interesting story hook for RPG players if they want to use it. If you want to believe that it was destroyed then I guess we'll have to agree to disagree. :)


Quote from: SM on Dec 23, 2019, 11:46:53 AM
And if you throw in the novelisation again it entirely removes the implication and outright states the Derelict was destroyed, along with the eggs with the AP Station destruction leaving a crater just a little smaller than Nebraska.
The Nebraska thing was hyperbole to emphasize how shitty their situation was - we know how big a 40 megaton blast is. :)
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Local Trouble on Dec 23, 2019, 08:59:47 PM
Quote from: HuDaFuK on Dec 23, 2019, 10:08:39 AM
Quote from: Xenomrph on Dec 19, 2019, 03:53:33 PMIf they aren't sure eggs are there, and there's a quarantine in place preventing them from accessing the planet, it could very well have been easier to clone Ripley "under the radar".

So get some pirates to do it "under the radar", like they literally did to acquire live human hosts despite that also being illegal as f*ck.

As I stated earlier...

Quote from: Local Trouble on Dec 19, 2019, 03:07:49 AMI guess that all depends on how a quarantine is enforced in this scenario.  Maybe the hypothetical picket drones that I suggested before are also armed with military-grade weapons, thus preventing any violators from even approaching LV-426 without being fired on and potentially killed.

Pirates may be willing to risk it.  Then again, maybe they did and never came back.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Samhain13 on Dec 23, 2019, 09:41:33 PM
I like where this is going.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Xenomrph on Dec 23, 2019, 09:50:14 PM
Express elevator to hell, goin' down.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Local Trouble on Dec 23, 2019, 10:08:40 PM
And who would be crazy enough to go looking for them with all the risks involved?  Your next RPG party, that's who.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Xenomrph on Dec 24, 2019, 12:35:23 AM
Not just that, let's think about how an Auriga-contracted egg-hunt might shake out:

Auriga contracts some mercenaries to do an off-the-books job. Grabbing eggs is dangerous without some kind of preparation, so the Auriga tells the mercs vaguely what they're dealing with so they don't f**k it up - the Auriga doesn't get their eggs if all the mercs are dead, after all.

Who knows if the pay is "good", or maybe the mercs start to think they've got a goldmine on their hands and double-cross the Auriga and try to find a higher bidder - assuming the details of the job haven't already leaked and someone on the Auriga flips for the opportunity for a payday, or one of the mercs opens their mouth and corporate interests find out about the job ahead of time and sabotage/intercept it. There's a lot of ways the Auriga could get f**ked, and they'd have no recourse. Shit, maybe it already happened "off screen" and it's not brought up in the movie.

And since you're dealing with Aliens, the mercs could still drop the ball and get themselves killed at any point despite having an idea of what they're getting themselves into. And all of this is irrespective of a hypothetical blockade or quarantine or whatever.

Or you send the mercs in blind with minimal instruction, and hope they don't pull a Nostromo and get themselves killed, or that they get clever and sell out anyway.

Telling a bunch of mercs to capture a bunch of warm bodies and not tell them why is likely to raise less questions and decrease the chances of something going wrong, and that's probably a big factor in why the Auriga did what it did.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Local Trouble on Dec 24, 2019, 12:58:19 AM
There's also the question of territoriality during the era of Alien Resurrection.  Is LV-426 even located within USM-controlled space?  Maybe the old corporations fled Earth and made homes on far-flung colony worlds where they maintain control over their territorial holdings with military power of their own.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: SM on Dec 24, 2019, 01:05:50 AM
It's not a question if there's source material telling us otherwise.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Local Trouble on Dec 24, 2019, 01:10:42 AM
I must have forgotten what the source material said about it then.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Samhain13 on Dec 24, 2019, 01:29:17 AM
Spoiler
Quote from: Xenomrph on Dec 24, 2019, 12:35:23 AM
Not just that, let's think about how an Auriga-contracted egg-hunt might shake out:

Auriga contracts some mercenaries to do an off-the-books job. Grabbing eggs is dangerous without some kind of preparation, so the Auriga tells the mercs vaguely what they're dealing with so they don't f**k it up - the Auriga doesn't get their eggs if all the mercs are dead, after all.

Who knows if the pay is "good", or maybe the mercs start to think they've got a goldmine on their hands and double-cross the Auriga and try to find a higher bidder - assuming the details of the job haven't already leaked and someone on the Auriga flips for the opportunity for a payday, or one of the mercs opens their mouth and corporate interests find out about the job ahead of time and sabotage/intercept it. There's a lot of ways the Auriga could get f**ked, and they'd have no recourse. Shit, maybe it already happened "off screen" and it's not brought up in the movie.

And since you're dealing with Aliens, the mercs could still drop the ball and get themselves killed at any point despite having an idea of what they're getting themselves into. And all of this is irrespective of a hypothetical blockade or quarantine or whatever.

Or you send the mercs in blind with minimal instruction, and hope they don't pull a Nostromo and get themselves killed, or that they get clever and sell out anyway.

Telling a bunch of mercs to capture a bunch of warm bodies and not tell them why is likely to raise less questions and decrease the chances of something going wrong, and that's probably a big factor in why the Auriga did what it did.

Quote from: Local Trouble on Dec 24, 2019, 12:58:19 AM
There's also the question of territoriality during the era of Alien Resurrection.  Is LV-426 even located within USM-controlled space?  Maybe the old corporations fled Earth and made homes on far-flung colony worlds where they maintain control over their territorial holdings with military power of their own.

[close]

Yeah I really like where this is going.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: SM on Dec 24, 2019, 01:31:12 AM
Quote from: Local Trouble on Dec 24, 2019, 01:10:42 AM
I must have forgotten what the source material said about it then.

Yes.  Yes I believe you did.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Local Trouble on Dec 24, 2019, 01:41:56 AM
Gediman definitely referred to Fiori-16, but I don't recall anything in AR about LV-426.  I'm talking specifically about the planet, not the derelict.

Quote from: Samhain13 on Dec 24, 2019, 01:29:17 AM
Spoiler
Quote from: Xenomrph on Dec 24, 2019, 12:35:23 AM
Not just that, let's think about how an Auriga-contracted egg-hunt might shake out:

Auriga contracts some mercenaries to do an off-the-books job. Grabbing eggs is dangerous without some kind of preparation, so the Auriga tells the mercs vaguely what they're dealing with so they don't f**k it up - the Auriga doesn't get their eggs if all the mercs are dead, after all.

Who knows if the pay is "good", or maybe the mercs start to think they've got a goldmine on their hands and double-cross the Auriga and try to find a higher bidder - assuming the details of the job haven't already leaked and someone on the Auriga flips for the opportunity for a payday, or one of the mercs opens their mouth and corporate interests find out about the job ahead of time and sabotage/intercept it. There's a lot of ways the Auriga could get f**ked, and they'd have no recourse. Shit, maybe it already happened "off screen" and it's not brought up in the movie.

And since you're dealing with Aliens, the mercs could still drop the ball and get themselves killed at any point despite having an idea of what they're getting themselves into. And all of this is irrespective of a hypothetical blockade or quarantine or whatever.

Or you send the mercs in blind with minimal instruction, and hope they don't pull a Nostromo and get themselves killed, or that they get clever and sell out anyway.

Telling a bunch of mercs to capture a bunch of warm bodies and not tell them why is likely to raise less questions and decrease the chances of something going wrong, and that's probably a big factor in why the Auriga did what it did.

Quote from: Local Trouble on Dec 24, 2019, 12:58:19 AM
There's also the question of territoriality during the era of Alien Resurrection.  Is LV-426 even located within USM-controlled space?  Maybe the old corporations fled Earth and made homes on far-flung colony worlds where they maintain control over their territorial holdings with military power of their own.

[close]

Yeah I really like where this is going.

It still doesn't mean we're getting praetorians.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Xenomrph on Dec 24, 2019, 01:46:28 AM
Quote from: SM on Dec 24, 2019, 01:05:50 AM
It's not a question if there's source material telling us otherwise.
The movie is noncommittal and easily explained, the novelization is a little harder but not impossible, the CMTM says it's definitely there, the WYR and RPG are ambiguous, and other sources like AvPClassic and ACM feature the derelict prominently, if one chooses to accept those.

Also none of the aforementioned sources say anything about territoriality anyway, so LT's question is a valid one.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Local Trouble on Dec 24, 2019, 01:51:58 AM
Quote from: Xenomrph on Dec 24, 2019, 01:46:28 AM
Quote from: SM on Dec 24, 2019, 01:05:50 AM
It's not a question if there's source material telling us otherwise.

The movie is noncommittal and easily explained, the novelization is a little harder but not impossible, the CMTM says it's definitely there, the WYR and RPG are ambiguous, and other sources like AvPClassic and ACM feature the derelict prominently, if one chooses to accept those.

Also none of the aforementioned sources say anything about territoriality anyway, so LT's question is a valid one.

I wasn't sure what source material we were talking about so I just defaulted to the movie.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: The Old One on Dec 24, 2019, 12:24:52 PM
AVP Classic is excellent but it's nearly got no story to speak of, if only it used Monolith's story, but I'd sooner take Aliens: The Ultimate Doom, as canon over ACM.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Dec 24, 2019, 12:34:34 PM
(https://media1.tenor.com/images/b36f3b78fa25a12571b365c9f74436d0/tenor.gif)

But we keep the weaponry.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: The Old One on Dec 24, 2019, 12:40:08 PM
Yeah, but for Aliens The Ultimate Doom weaponry variety is off the charts so apart from three weapons, ACM is completely disposable.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: HuDaFuK on Dec 24, 2019, 12:58:10 PM
In not sure it's the worst in the entire franchise, but ACM's story might be the one I hate most more than anything else.

The fact they had the outright gall to expect us to accept that someone who just happens to be wearing bandages in the exact same places as Hicks manage to find his way onto the Sulaco and then conveniently got thrown in his cryopod...

Yeah, f*ck that game. F*ck it hard. With a crowbar.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Xenomrph on Dec 24, 2019, 03:39:21 PM
Quote from: Fiendishly Inventive on Dec 24, 2019, 12:24:52 PM
AVP Classic is excellent but it's nearly got no story to speak of, if only it used Monolith's story, but I'd sooner take Aliens: The Ultimate Doom, as canon over ACM.
There's a loose enough plot that you can follow what's going on, especially in the Marine campaign. The nameless Marine is stationed at a new research facility built around the Derelict in the decade since 'Aliens', and the facility is compromised. He makes his way through the facility and outside to the new colony, and from there he goes to the new atmosphere processor and primes it to explode (it's been a while since I played - I know the game gives a reason for why he does this but I don't remember it), and takes a dropship to the orbiting space station. It's also infested (and there are some Predators and prototype weapons on the loose) so he boards an escape craft to the USS Tyrargo in a nearby orbit. This is *also* infested, so he shoots his way to the hangar, ejects a Queen into space, and assumes he's safe. What happens to him after that is unknown.

Like it's coherent enough and you can follow where he's going and why, it's not like he's just jumping from one map to the next.

Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Dec 24, 2019, 12:34:34 PM
(https://media1.tenor.com/images/b36f3b78fa25a12571b365c9f74436d0/tenor.gif)

But we keep the weaponry.
According to the RPG's Facebook group we're getting a book about the USCM next, so I'm hoping we get an expanded arsenal cribbed from the EU. Gimme some of those Alien-liquefying particle cannons from 'Aliens: Backsplash'.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Local Trouble on Dec 24, 2019, 08:02:56 PM
So have we achieved consensus on the status of the derelict then?
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Xenomrph on Dec 24, 2019, 08:07:45 PM
Quote from: Local Trouble on Dec 24, 2019, 08:02:56 PM
So have we achieved consensus on the status of the derelict then?
We achieved consensus back in 1986, all of this has just been hypothetical discussion.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: SM on Dec 26, 2019, 03:36:09 AM
Quote from: Local Trouble on Dec 24, 2019, 01:41:56 AM
Gediman definitely referred to Fiori-16, but I don't recall anything in AR about LV-426.  I'm talking specifically about the planet, not the derelict.

Quote from: Samhain13 on Dec 24, 2019, 01:29:17 AM
Spoiler
Quote from: Xenomrph on Dec 24, 2019, 12:35:23 AM
Not just that, let's think about how an Auriga-contracted egg-hunt might shake out:

Auriga contracts some mercenaries to do an off-the-books job. Grabbing eggs is dangerous without some kind of preparation, so the Auriga tells the mercs vaguely what they're dealing with so they don't f**k it up - the Auriga doesn't get their eggs if all the mercs are dead, after all.

Who knows if the pay is "good", or maybe the mercs start to think they've got a goldmine on their hands and double-cross the Auriga and try to find a higher bidder - assuming the details of the job haven't already leaked and someone on the Auriga flips for the opportunity for a payday, or one of the mercs opens their mouth and corporate interests find out about the job ahead of time and sabotage/intercept it. There's a lot of ways the Auriga could get f**ked, and they'd have no recourse. Shit, maybe it already happened "off screen" and it's not brought up in the movie.

And since you're dealing with Aliens, the mercs could still drop the ball and get themselves killed at any point despite having an idea of what they're getting themselves into. And all of this is irrespective of a hypothetical blockade or quarantine or whatever.

Or you send the mercs in blind with minimal instruction, and hope they don't pull a Nostromo and get themselves killed, or that they get clever and sell out anyway.

Telling a bunch of mercs to capture a bunch of warm bodies and not tell them why is likely to raise less questions and decrease the chances of something going wrong, and that's probably a big factor in why the Auriga did what it did.

Quote from: Local Trouble on Dec 24, 2019, 12:58:19 AM
There's also the question of territoriality during the era of Alien Resurrection.  Is LV-426 even located within USM-controlled space?  Maybe the old corporations fled Earth and made homes on far-flung colony worlds where they maintain control over their territorial holdings with military power of their own.

[close]

Yeah I really like where this is going.

It still doesn't mean we're getting praetorians.
One passage in the novelization details the state of LV-426.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: The Old One on Dec 26, 2019, 02:10:51 PM
And... ?
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: TheBATMAN on Dec 26, 2019, 03:06:32 PM
I believe the AR novel conclusively says the Derelict was completely destroyed, which makes the most sense given how the later films play out.

Speaking of which, I am currently perusing the core rulebook and there is mention of a new scientific space station built to overlook LV-426 to examine any recovered remains of the Alien from the blast site and that also the derelict may have survived by falling down a crevasse. My memory of the old EU is very hazy so is this a reference to something there, or perhaps a nod to Blomkamp's idea as that looked to take place on a station of some kind with a recovered juggernaut.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: The Old One on Dec 26, 2019, 03:26:22 PM
Or potentially just a reference to AVP Classic.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Xenomrph on Dec 27, 2019, 12:00:27 AM
Quote from: TheBATMAN on Dec 26, 2019, 03:06:32 PM
I believe the AR novel conclusively says the Derelict was completely destroyed, which makes the most sense given how the later films play out.

Speaking of which, I am currently perusing the core rulebook and there is mention of a new scientific space station built to overlook LV-426 to examine any recovered remains of the Alien from the blast site and that also the derelict may have survived by falling down a crevasse. My memory of the old EU is very hazy so is this a reference to something there, or perhaps a nod to Blomkamp's idea as that looked to take place on a station of some kind with a recovered juggernaut.
How "the later films play out" consists of Alien Resurrection, and Local Trouble and I already showed how easy it is to work around that. Alien3 doesn't reference the Derelict because it doesn't need to, and the CMTM directly addresses this - WY sent two missions at roughly the same time, one to Fury 161 and one to the Derelict.

The space station in the RPG is a named reference to Odobenus Station which orbits LV426 and was built at some point between 2179 and 2189, from the Marine campaign in AvPClassic.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Local Trouble on Dec 27, 2019, 12:11:58 AM
Quote from: Fiendishly Inventive on Dec 26, 2019, 02:10:51 PM
And... ?

Allow me.

Quote from: SM on Jul 08, 2018, 01:50:44 PM
Ann Crispin mentions that there was a 19 mega hectare crater on LV-426 in the Resurrection novelisation.  Nebraska is 20 mega hectares in size.

Good guess by Bishop.

I guess that just raises the question of whether or not the novelization was duly ratified...
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Mr. Clemens on Dec 27, 2019, 12:19:03 AM
Quote from: Local Trouble on Dec 27, 2019, 12:11:58 AM
I guess that just raises the question of whether or not the novelization was duly ratified...

I have no horse in this race, but yeah, if the novels are to be taken as gospel then the Space Jockey doesn't exist, either.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: The Old One on Dec 27, 2019, 12:21:00 AM
Since the first three novels directly contradict the films, I'd say only the Resurrection one is potentially viable, as part of the cinematic continuity.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Xenomrph on Dec 27, 2019, 12:44:37 AM
Quote from: Local Trouble on Dec 27, 2019, 12:11:58 AM
Quote from: Fiendishly Inventive on Dec 26, 2019, 02:10:51 PM
And... ?

Allow me.

Quote from: SM on Jul 08, 2018, 01:50:44 PM
Ann Crispin mentions that there was a 19 mega hectare crater on LV-426 in the Resurrection novelisation.  Nebraska is 20 mega hectares in size.

Good guess by Bishop.

I guess that just raises the question of whether or not the novelization was duly ratified...
That just means Bishop's 40-megaton estimate is trash, as you'd need something much, much bigger than that to wipe out Nebraska.

I'd chalk the novelization's number up to Crispin not understanding what hyperbole is and misinterpreting Bishop's line.

Quote from: Fiendishly Inventive on Dec 27, 2019, 12:21:00 AM
Since the first three novels directly contradict the films, I'd say only the Resurrection one is potentially viable, as part of the cinematic continuity.
All movie novelizations have their discrepancies, it's the nature of how they're written and how it relates to the moviemaking process. The novelization for 'Predator' is radically different from the final movie, because it's based on an early version of the script. When ADF was writing 'Aliens, he didn't know what the Alien would even look like and had to work around that.

I think trying to consider things as part of specifically "the cinematic continuity" is more complicated than it seems on the surface.
I mean sure you can cherry pick which novelizations you want to accept, that's a given. I personally accept all of them (discrepancies and all).
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: The Old One on Dec 27, 2019, 01:10:35 AM
The novelisation of AR is by far the best one, and no, I don't think it's hyperbole, even though I've nothing against the Derelict surviving, even more so if it's inaccessible for a number of hundred years. But I'd rather render stuff "non-canon" to the Alien films than create fan-fiction whole cloth. If it's any good it's recognised anyway, isn't necessarily, a requirement to be part of the film continuity or canon to be worthwhile, if Fire and Stone was good for example- I'd still argue it's non-canon- because continuity isn't necessarily about quality.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: SM on Dec 27, 2019, 01:15:22 AM
Quote from: Mr. Clemens on Dec 27, 2019, 12:19:03 AM
Quote from: Local Trouble on Dec 27, 2019, 12:11:58 AM
I guess that just raises the question of whether or not the novelization was duly ratified...

I have no horse in this race, but yeah, if the novels are to be taken as gospel then the Space Jockey doesn't exist, either.

Novelisations are generally used to build on the film where they don't contradict the film.

But if you want to take them as "gospel" yes they never encountered the Jockey.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: The Old One on Dec 27, 2019, 01:18:11 AM
Yes, unless it contradicts the film then the film takes precedence, as the film always does, even perhaps if another adaptation is superior, Resurrection PS1 anyone? 
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Samhain13 on Dec 27, 2019, 02:58:39 AM
When there is an entry that has multiple versions I usually take the one I liked better or that fits in my canon better. I don't think both versions can coexist since there are always contradictions. In the Alien novel there is no space jockey, Aliens novel the pilot is mentioned but then there are those albino drone aliens.  AR novel, the aliens are described as looking like the original, newborn is described different and is actually cool, xenopedia must have the differences listed.

I don't have a problem in taking the extra info from a novel or game and using it as a background info while watching the movie, like the info we can get by watching the movie's extras or director's commentary. If we learn this or that about a character or get some extra worldbuilding I can take it into consideration if I like it but its more like an optional headcanon IMO. Like the AC novel making David admit he didn't create the alien.  ;D

In that case I prefer to ignore the movie and just go with the novel. The AR novel was also much more enjoyable than the movie.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: The Old One on Dec 27, 2019, 03:00:50 AM
I really don't consider the film continuity that complex, the Alien Anthology is the "main continuity" and even though multiple versions of each film exist, nothing in any of the versions is so drastic a change that one version must be chosen, otherwise continuity is broken. The only major change in that respect- from Alien's Marketing (Inferior imo) Cut is the inclusion of Ovomorphing, considered canon by multiple sources in the new EU, so it's inconsequential what version actually happened. The only major change from Aliens' Special Edition is the inclusion of Amanda Ripley apart from that it's basically an extended edition, considered canon by multiple sources in the new EU, so it's inconsequential what version actually happened. The only major change from Alien³'s Special Edition in that respect- is the inclusion of the Royal/Regular Facehugger distinction apart from that it's basically an extended (Superior imo) edition, considered canon by multiple sources in the new EU, so it's inconsequential what version actually happened. You get the picture.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Huggs on Dec 27, 2019, 03:30:42 AM
I remember spending nearly 20 minutes flipping around the audio book of Alien 79 trying to find the space jockey, thinking I'd missed it somehow.  :laugh:
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Local Trouble on Dec 27, 2019, 05:58:00 AM
Quote from: Xenomrph on Dec 27, 2019, 12:44:37 AMThat just means Bishop's 40-megaton estimate is trash, as you'd need something much, much bigger than that to wipe out Nebraska.

I'd chalk the novelization's number up to Crispin not understanding what hyperbole is and misinterpreting Bishop's line.
:o

Quote from: Xenomrph on Dec 27, 2019, 12:44:37 AMAll movie novelizations have their discrepancies, it's the nature of how they're written and how it relates to the moviemaking process. The novelization for 'Predator' is radically different from the final movie, because it's based on an early version of the script. When ADF was writing 'Aliens, he didn't know what the Alien would even look like and had to work around that.

I think trying to consider things as part of specifically "the cinematic continuity" is more complicated than it seems on the surface.
I mean sure you can cherry pick which novelizations you want to accept, that's a given. I personally accept all of them (discrepancies and all).

So... is the novelization of AR right?
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Xenomrph on Dec 27, 2019, 06:44:06 AM
Certain elements are, and others might not be, it's "fuzzy" and I choose what details to accept for any number of ever-changing, ill-defined reasons.

Personal canon/headcanon doesn't need to be internally consistent, it's what *you* believe and makes you happy. :)

Internal consistency is something you'd expect from a broader "official canon" that you're expecting everyone to follow - and is a big reason of why it's a meaningless non-concept, and the AR novelization is a good example of why.

Even SM conceded that the novelizations should get cherry-picked as to what elements are "true" based on one's personal thresholds for "contradictions" (the very definition of headcanon) and he cites the AR novelization's crater size as clear proof that the Derelict is gone, going to far as to compare its number to the Nebraska example Bishop gives in 'Aliens'. However that crater size doesn't actually line up with the 40 megaton number that Bishop actually says.
Not to mention that he says novelizations shouldn't be taken as "gospel" (because if you do, then the Space Jockey doesn't exist :P ) but in the same breath he chooses to take the AR novelization as gospel.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Local Trouble on Dec 28, 2019, 12:50:09 AM
Quote from: Xenomrph on Dec 27, 2019, 06:44:06 AM
Certain elements are, and others might not be, it's "fuzzy" and I choose what details to accept for any number of ever-changing, ill-defined reasons.

Personal canon/headcanon doesn't need to be internally consistent, it's what *you* believe and makes you happy. :)

Internal consistency is something you'd expect from a broader "official canon" that you're expecting everyone to follow - and is a big reason of why it's a meaningless non-concept, and the AR novelization is a good example of why.

Even SM conceded that the novelizations should get cherry-picked as to what elements are "true" based on one's personal thresholds for "contradictions" (the very definition of headcanon) and he cites the AR novelization's crater size as clear proof that the Derelict is gone, going to far as to compare its number to the Nebraska example Bishop gives in 'Aliens'. However that crater size doesn't actually line up with the 40 megaton number that Bishop actually says.
Not to mention that he says novelizations shouldn't be taken as "gospel" (because if you do, then the Space Jockey doesn't exist :P ) but in the same breath he chooses to take the AR novelization as gospel.

This all sounds like the opening salvo in a new canon war.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Xenomrph on Dec 28, 2019, 01:13:33 AM
Nah, believe what makes you happy and don't be bothered if no one else does, but also don't let others tell you what to believe. :)
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Local Trouble on Dec 28, 2019, 01:32:07 AM
Quote from: Xenomrph on Dec 28, 2019, 01:13:33 AM
Nah, believe what makes you happy and don't be bothered if no one else does, but also don't let others tell you what to believe. :)

But that sounds like chaos!
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Xenomrph on Dec 28, 2019, 06:33:29 AM
Quote from: Local Trouble on Dec 28, 2019, 01:32:07 AM
Quote from: Xenomrph on Dec 28, 2019, 01:13:33 AM
Nah, believe what makes you happy and don't be bothered if no one else does, but also don't let others tell you what to believe. :)

But that sounds like chaos!
EMBRACE THE RUINOUS POWERS
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: The Old One on Dec 28, 2019, 03:00:31 PM
Or it's freedom.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: [cancerblack] on Dec 28, 2019, 10:37:13 PM
Quote from: Xenomrph on Dec 28, 2019, 01:13:33 AM
Nah, believe what makes you happy and don't be bothered if no one else does, but also don't let others tell you what to believe. :)

Agreed.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Local Trouble on Dec 28, 2019, 11:11:30 PM
This is blasphemy!  This is madness!  :o
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Xenomrph on Dec 28, 2019, 11:16:53 PM
Quote from: Local Trouble on Dec 28, 2019, 11:11:30 PM
This is blasphemy!  This is madness!  :o
Madness?

THIS. IS. CANON.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: The Old One on Jan 01, 2020, 07:08:03 PM
Hey, so I got to one of the last levels in Monolith's AVP, and it says that a Soldier and a Scout can turn into a Praetorian after 6 years, but the majority perish in the process. Apart from the juvenile form of the adult Queen being a Praetorian briefly, I think this is acceptable.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Kailem on Jan 09, 2020, 08:12:50 AM
Given how deep it sounds like the lore rabbit hole goes with this, are there any mentions of places like Vega 4/New Shanghai, San Drad, Ryushi, Bunda or any other locations related to the AVP side of the Alien EU?
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: The Old One on Jan 09, 2020, 09:35:25 AM
Apologies, but I've read it three times through now, nothing of the sort unless I missed it.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Jan 09, 2020, 10:01:53 AM
I believe they had to be kept out due to licensing. I'm sure I suggested some of those to Drew and those were the reasons they didn't make it in.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: SM on Jan 09, 2020, 10:05:31 AM
Quote from: Kailem on Jan 09, 2020, 08:12:50 AM
Given how deep it sounds like the lore rabbit hole goes with this, are there any mentions of places like Vega 4/New Shanghai, San Drad, Ryushi, Bunda or any other locations related to the AVP side of the Alien EU?

No.  The license was Alien/ Prometheus only and the bible that was used as one of the sources didn't contain any AvP locations.

Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Jan 09, 2020, 03:57:45 PM
https://geekireland.com/alien-rpg-tomas-harenstam-interview/

Short interview with the game's lead designer.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: The Old One on Jan 10, 2020, 07:02:29 AM
Awesome, thank you.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Xenomrph on Jan 11, 2020, 04:29:41 AM
Quote from: SM on Jan 09, 2020, 10:05:31 AM
Quote from: Kailem on Jan 09, 2020, 08:12:50 AM
Given how deep it sounds like the lore rabbit hole goes with this, are there any mentions of places like Vega 4/New Shanghai, San Drad, Ryushi, Bunda or any other locations related to the AVP side of the Alien EU?

No.  The license was Alien/ Prometheus only and the bible that was used as one of the sources didn't contain any AvP locations.


The RPG references Odobenus Station, which is from AvPClassic.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: The Old One on Jan 11, 2020, 05:54:41 AM
Yes, this is true.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Kailem on Jan 11, 2020, 11:09:24 AM
Thanks for the responses. I figured there probably wouldn't be any locations from AVP due to licensing but thought I'd ask anyway.

That's interesting about there being one from AVP Classic though. Wonder if they were just able to slip that in without anyone noticing?
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Samhain13 on Jan 11, 2020, 01:52:05 PM
Quote from: Xenomrph on Jan 11, 2020, 04:29:41 AM
Quote from: SM on Jan 09, 2020, 10:05:31 AM
Quote from: Kailem on Jan 09, 2020, 08:12:50 AM
Given how deep it sounds like the lore rabbit hole goes with this, are there any mentions of places like Vega 4/New Shanghai, San Drad, Ryushi, Bunda or any other locations related to the AVP side of the Alien EU?

No.  The license was Alien/ Prometheus only and the bible that was used as one of the sources didn't contain any AvP locations.


The RPG references Odobenus Station, which is from AvPClassic.

Huh. Bet no one saw that coming.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Xenomrph on Jan 11, 2020, 02:19:35 PM
Quote from: Kailem on Jan 11, 2020, 11:09:24 AM
Thanks for the responses. I figured there probably wouldn't be any locations from AVP due to licensing but figured I'd ask anyway.

That' interesting about there being one from AVP Classic though. Wonder if they were just able to slip that in without anyone noticing?
That's the only one I caught, there might be others that are just mega-obscure.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: The Old One on Jan 11, 2020, 02:25:47 PM
An issue I stumbled across re-reading it recently, one part says Fire & Stone/Life & Death/& (by extension) Titan's Alien Trilogy happened mentioning the state of LV-223, the Onager, and the Aliens brought to the planet, saying the Alien is susceptible to the Pathogen but then in another part later on it says certain hives contain the Pathogen, created by the Aliens themselves, it's suitable the Alien is the only thing that's able to control it but it totally contradicts the aforementioned stories.

It already outed The Rage War by saying the Alien is unaffected by the vaccum, it's clear the contradictions only mount with time in regards to the aforementioned stories, just out them from canon and give my head peace.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Xenomrph on Jan 31, 2020, 05:37:23 AM
Ignore what you don't like and don't worry about what's "canon", and you will find peace. :)

Also perhaps it's a different Pathogen, or some kind of variant/mutation of it.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Local Trouble on Jan 31, 2020, 05:58:08 AM
But that's anarchy!
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Xenomrph on Jan 31, 2020, 06:29:25 AM
Is it, though? :)
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Local Trouble on Jan 31, 2020, 07:02:46 AM
It's like the blood orgy scene from Event Horizon.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Xenomrph on Jan 31, 2020, 07:25:12 PM
Quote from: Local Trouble on Jan 31, 2020, 07:02:46 AM
It's like the blood orgy scene from Event Horizon.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Local Trouble on Jan 31, 2020, 10:12:30 PM
You're out of control!  >:(

(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fmedia2.giphy.com%2Fmedia%2FF2PMKckc0qoZG%2Fgiphy.gif&hash=d630c6f2ed668654d8a4d02633557b3cfec45693)
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Xenomrph on Feb 02, 2020, 09:53:38 PM
Got curious and started looking at the star charts in both the new RPG and the old Leading Edge RPG. There's a pretty good amount of overlap, with some stars and sectors even being in (roughly) the same location on both maps.

I kinda wish the new RPG had managed to include every planet from the old RPG (the old map isn't that extensive, and the new map has a lot of open space) but it's pretty cool that it includes what it does.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: The Old One on Feb 02, 2020, 10:21:19 PM
I enjoy room to suffocate, the Alien universe requires emptiness to work after all.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Xenomrph on Feb 02, 2020, 10:46:57 PM
Well I mean sure, but it's not like it's a lot of planets in the old RPG.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Local Trouble on Feb 02, 2020, 11:59:44 PM
Does it still have an actual planet named Weyland-Yutani?
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Xenomrph on Feb 03, 2020, 12:11:19 AM
Quote from: Local Trouble on Feb 02, 2020, 11:59:44 PM
Does it still have an actual planet named Weyland-Yutani?
The new map? Nope.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Local Trouble on Feb 03, 2020, 12:16:44 AM
Quote from: Xenomrph on Nov 24, 2019, 10:44:21 PM
Quote from: Local Trouble on Nov 24, 2019, 10:42:24 PM
Will you have space on the bookshelf for this?

It'll take some rearranging, but I'll make it happen.

Did you make it happen yet?
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Xenomrph on Feb 03, 2020, 08:36:19 AM
Yeah sure
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Local Trouble on Feb 03, 2020, 06:27:56 PM
The RPG give us any more information about Thedus?
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Xenomrph on Feb 03, 2020, 10:27:32 PM
I thought you were going to buy a copy
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Local Trouble on Feb 04, 2020, 05:50:06 AM
Nah, I don't do physical media.  I don't even own a bookcase.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Feb 04, 2020, 08:20:00 AM
I believe you get a digital copy when you buy the book - from Free League, at least.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: HuDaFuK on Feb 04, 2020, 09:22:30 AM
Yeah, order from their site and they give you a pdf version as an extra.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Xenomrph on Feb 04, 2020, 03:36:25 PM
I believe they also sell just the digital version on its own, as well.

Edit— https://www.drivethrurpg.com/m/product/293976
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: The Old One on Feb 07, 2020, 01:08:36 PM
Just got the word back, according to Andrew E. C. Gaska, Alien The RPG is part of continuity and canon.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: The Cruentus on Feb 07, 2020, 01:22:17 PM
Interesting, Can you ask him about the game mechanics side of it though, as such gameplay mechanics usually compromise continuity and lore for the sake of balance.  Out of curiosity, what did he say exactly anyway?
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: The Old One on Feb 07, 2020, 01:30:25 PM
I asked if Alien The RPG is part of the continuity and canon. He replied with "Yes" noting specifically the way the Praetorian Guard and Praetorian Charger Alien stages begin to exist is subject to change and the distinction between the Drone/Runner and Warrior/Defender stages is subject to change. Also the existence of the "Worker" and Royal Jelly in general is contentious.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: The Cruentus on Feb 07, 2020, 01:39:41 PM
Interesting. So what part of the RPG lore is fixed exactly.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: The Old One on Feb 07, 2020, 02:16:22 PM
In terms of the Alien itself, everything apart from the already mentioned, in terms of other information, everything apart from the questionable status of LV-223 and G-435.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Xenomrph on Feb 07, 2020, 09:00:05 PM
"Questionable" :P
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Local Trouble on Feb 07, 2020, 09:01:54 PM
Quote from: Fiendishly Inventive on Feb 07, 2020, 01:08:36 PM
Just got the word back, according to Andrew E. C. Gaska, Alien The RPG is part of continuity and canon.

Does he represent Fox?
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Xenomrph on Feb 07, 2020, 09:10:35 PM
Quote from: Local Trouble on Feb 07, 2020, 09:01:54 PM
Quote from: Fiendishly Inventive on Feb 07, 2020, 01:08:36 PM
Just got the word back, according to Andrew E. C. Gaska, Alien The RPG is part of continuity and canon.

Does he represent Fox?
Hey man Randy Pitchford said his videogame was canon so it must be true.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Local Trouble on Feb 07, 2020, 09:13:29 PM
I have no retort for that.  :-\
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: The Eighth Passenger on Feb 07, 2020, 09:14:21 PM
He's a "Franchise Consultant" for 20th Century Fox on the Alien, Predator and Planet of the Apes properties. I assume he's still working for them after the takeover. I think the Corporal had a podcast with him a couple years back.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Xenomrph on Feb 07, 2020, 09:21:08 PM
So to answer Local's question, "yes he does." :P

I was taking the RPG as "canon" regardless of what any "official" line said, but I'm not surprised that the RPG is "officially canon". If it's anything like how Lucasfilm treated the old Star Wars RPGs, any specific named details and the broad strokes of pre-structured narrative campaigns were "canon", and anything else (specific actions taken by players, GM-created NPCs outside of pre-fabricated NPCs, specific details about player characters) were not.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Local Trouble on Feb 07, 2020, 09:24:24 PM
What's questionable about LV-223 now?
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Xenomrph on Feb 07, 2020, 09:28:42 PM
Quote from: Local Trouble on Feb 07, 2020, 09:24:24 PM
What's questionable about LV-223 now?
FI doesn't like that it's a verdant and biologically-plentiful cornucopia of black goo mutated creatures in the wake of 'Prometheus'.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Immortan Jonesy on Feb 07, 2020, 09:31:45 PM
What would be the canon to end all canons? I mean something so perfect that would make hyper-critical people stop and stare in awe and amazement.  :laugh:
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Xenomrph on Feb 07, 2020, 09:35:09 PM
Quote from: Immortan Jonesy on Feb 07, 2020, 09:31:45 PM
What would be the canon to end all canons? I mean something so perfect that would make hyper-critical people stop and stare in awe and amazement.  :laugh:
It already exists, and it is me.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Xenomrph on Feb 07, 2020, 10:37:34 PM
Quote from: Fiendishly Inventive on Feb 07, 2020, 09:58:12 PM
It's really nothing to do with my likes and dislikes, because it's not my statement, I'm just the messenger.
So he was the one saying LV-223's status was "questionable"? Did he elaborate on that?
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: The Old One on Feb 07, 2020, 10:42:33 PM
Subject to change, just like other aspects already mentioned, basically also the reason why the planet's "main description" describes it just as we viewed it in Prometheus, but then the "rumor control" section contradicts it and parts of the Alien section further on.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Xenomrph on Feb 07, 2020, 11:05:09 PM
Do you have his contact info?
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Feb 11, 2020, 03:01:57 PM
QuoteThe Xenomorphs are taking over the world. Free League Publishing and 20th Century Fox are proud to announce a host of partnerships that will bring the official ALIEN tabletop roleplaying games to fans all over the world, in their own language. The game will soon be launched in French, German, Spanish, Italian, Russian, Polish, and Portuguese.

Below is the full list of publishing partners for the ALIEN RPG:

France - Arkhane Asylum - https://www.arkhane-asylum.fr/
Germany - Ulisses Spiele - https://ulisses-spiele.de/
Spain - Edge Entertainment - http://www.edgeent.com/home/
Italy - Wyrd Edizioni - https://www.wyrdedizioni.com/
Brazil - New Order Editora - https://newordereditora.com.br/
Russia - Studio 101 - https://studio101.ru/
Poland - Galakta - http://galakta.pl/
Please visit each partner's websites for more information about product releases and availability.

The core rulebook for the official ALIEN roleplaying game was released on December 10, 2019 and immediately sold out its first print run. Shipping new print runs to retail shelves around the world this January, Free League is now ramping up a range of new expansions and accessories for the game series slated to release later this year. Follow Free League on Twitter and Facebook for the latest news and previews of the ALIEN products soon to come.

https://www.mynewsdesk.com/us/free-league/pressreleases/the-official-alien-roleplaying-game-launching-in-seven-new-languages-2965627
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: The Old One on Feb 11, 2020, 06:10:54 PM
Wow, excellent to see!
Spoiler
Hopefully also available in Braille sometime.
[close]
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: The Old One on Feb 14, 2020, 02:58:07 PM
Also the contact information is easily accessible by anyone.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Xenomrph on Feb 16, 2020, 06:20:12 PM
Quote from: Fiendishly Inventive on Feb 11, 2020, 06:10:54 PM
Wow, excellent to see!
Spoiler
Hopefully also available in Braille sometime.
[close]
And cuneiform.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: The Old One on Feb 17, 2020, 02:08:51 AM
I'm being serious though!
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Xenomrph on Feb 17, 2020, 02:19:54 AM
An audiobook version would be easier to make (and could incorporate sound effects and music).
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Local Trouble on Feb 17, 2020, 03:08:13 AM
They should get Lance Henriksen to do it while he's still around.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Xenomrph on Feb 17, 2020, 10:09:32 PM
Quote from: Local Trouble on Feb 17, 2020, 03:08:13 AM
They should get Lance Henriksen to do it while he's still around.
Lance Henriksen, Michael Biehn, and William Hope, and they alternate every third word.


Found a bunch more references on the star chart:

Zagreus is from 'Alien: Echo'
Charon Base (at Gleise 163) is from 'Aliens: Rogue'
Terraform 3 is from the Kenner Bull Alien's mini-comic
Arceon Station is the wooden planet from the Vincent Ward Alien3 draft
Sphacteria Fuel Depot is from 'Aliens: Dead Orbit'
Linna 349 is from the USCM Tech Manual
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Feb 20, 2020, 03:08:16 PM
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: razeak on Apr 04, 2020, 02:15:53 AM
I got my copy today. Never did much more than about 30 minutes of D&D.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: The Old One on Apr 05, 2020, 01:22:17 PM
Hope you enjoy it.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Apr 11, 2020, 01:59:26 PM
QuoteWe are hard at work on the next Cinematic scenario for the ALIEN RPG. This new scenario, entitled Destroyer of Worlds, is something of a sequel to Chariot of the Gods (and also written by Andrew E.C. Gaska), but you'll be playing Colonial Marines instead of space truckers. We aim for an August release of Destroyer, along with a boxed Starter Set for the game. More news soon!

From the last newsletter.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Gemini on Apr 15, 2020, 07:02:19 PM
I haven't played a pen and paper RPG for many years (teenage years were spent dabbling a bit in D&D and some other less popular games) however i couldn't resist this. I doubt I'll have a chance to play it (unless i take a dip into online play) but just in terms of the world building it does for the Alien universe it's worth every penny. I love the way it's this wild west style frontier where opportunity but also death may be around every corner. it makes total sense.

I watched a youtube stream of some people playing the Hope's Last Day scenario- just being to watch it play out and know how the rules worked and follow it in the book, was somehow a super chill thing to watch!

I also love all the easter eggs throughout (most of which I wouldn't have noticed if not for this thread- great nerdy work!).
basically to start making a scenario all the GM needs to do is google one of the planets, then you could check out the comic/novel set on there and you've got a cinematic scenario framework ready made.. with characters, dramatic plot points, structure, all to work off.

like others I am dubious how engaging the campaign setting might be (despite my aforementioned love of the world building here), this really does feel like it lends itself more to cinematic play to give it the jeopardy and excitement.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: razeak on Apr 17, 2020, 08:06:12 PM
Deep diving on this book finally. The angle they took Van Leuwen would make an excellent story in that universe. I can't believe how strong my reaction to that was. It's incredibly interesting.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Xenomrph on Apr 17, 2020, 08:19:08 PM
Today I learned that the map on the inside cover of the core rulebook is a watered down version of the map that comes in the map pack, and the full map has more EU references. Off the top of my head I spotted Rim (the planet from the Perry trilogy of novels that Billie is from) and RLW 1289 (the planet from 'Labyrinth' where Church has his no-good very bad day, although the map mis-spells it as RWL 1289).
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: The Replacement on Apr 18, 2020, 09:33:49 AM
Been running chariot of the Gods for my D&D group. It's been fantastic. These guys will do anything to not get separated :D
Remember when you were a kid and got scared, you'd make your bro/sis or friend come with you where you needed to go? They're dong that hahaha.

Using RollD20 and grabbing some atmospheric music and sound effects going really helps.
I've uploaded the maps and tokens to the game and the character sheet system and dice rolling that's available in rollD20 perfectly replicates the dice system in game.

Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Gemini on Apr 18, 2020, 11:48:45 AM
Quote from: Xenomrph on Apr 17, 2020, 08:19:08 PM
Today I learned that the map on the inside cover of the core rulebook is a watered down version of the map that comes in the map pack, and the full map has more EU references. Off the top of my head I spotted Rim (the planet from the Perry trilogy of novels that Billie is from)
that's cool! the Perry trilogy was my first entry into the EU and I never saw Rim mentioned anywhere else- ever! I mean, I now realise that was probably because it was a retcon job so not a world they created as such

another thing I spotted which I liked- it gives an explanation for why a lot of the tech in the Alien universe is pretty old and battered, and also why the tech in the prequels is much slicker than Alien/Aliens etc. because it's set on the frontier, they actually get a lot of the crappy old tech out there's that's been rejected or not maintained for a while. and there was a huge data loss from an electromagnetic fault in the early 21st century.. meaning that physical data storage become in vogue again.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Apr 19, 2020, 04:08:47 PM



Quote from: The Replacement on Apr 18, 2020, 09:33:49 AM
Using RollD20 and grabbing some atmospheric music and sound effects going really helps.
I've uploaded the maps and tokens to the game and the character sheet system and dice rolling that's available in rollD20 perfectly replicates the dice system in game.

I love Roll20s ability to add the music. It really does work well for ambience.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Apr 20, 2020, 08:32:26 AM
I've not watched it yet but here's some footage of a session we did.

Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Kradan on Apr 20, 2020, 11:09:55 AM
Are you planning to release some gameplay videos on site's YouTube channel ? I don't care for the game personally, I just like hearing you guys talk and tease each other.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Apr 20, 2020, 11:26:19 AM
We're planning on. Only got this one recorded so far, and I'll upload on our channel too, but without the cool overlays.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Kradan on Apr 20, 2020, 11:35:38 AM
Great
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Apr 26, 2020, 08:49:39 AM


Haven't had the chance to watch yet.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Apr 26, 2020, 01:50:48 PM
QuoteFree League Publishing and 20th Century Studios are proud to announce not one but two major expansions for the official ALIEN tabletop roleplaying game, released last December to universal acclaim. This August will see the release of a boxed Starter Set, as well as a brand-new Cinematic module entitled Destroyer of Worlds. Both titles can be pre-ordered from the ALIEN RPG website as of today in honor of ALIEN DAY, the annual 4/26 celebration of the ALIEN franchise and fandom.

The ALIEN RPG Starter Set is designed to be the perfect entry point into the game and the ALIEN universe. Affordably priced at $49.99, it contains everything needed to start playing, including an abridged 104-page softcover quickstart of the core rules, 20 custom dice, reference cards, character handouts, a huge starmap, and the complete Cinematic scenario Chariot of the Gods by sci-fi author Andrew E.C. Gaska.

Destroyer of Worlds, also penned by Gaska, is a continuation of the story from Chariot, this time focusing upon an iconic type of character from the ALIEN universe: the Colonial Marine. A team of Colonial Marines get dropped onto the moon Ariaricus to handle a growing insurgency, but soon find themselves fighting for their lives against enemies beyond their worst nightmares. Priced at $29.99, the Destroyer of Worlds Cinematic scenario will come in a boxed set, including maps, handouts, and cards for a fully immersive tabletop experience.

The 392-page core rulebook for the official ALIEN roleplaying game was released in December 2019 along with a host of supplements. The game immediately sold out its first print run and swiftly entered the Top-5 list of best-selling tabletop RPGs in the fall of 2019. The game is currently being translated into seven languages, and was recently nominated for an Origins Award for Best RPG of the Year.

https://frialigan.se/en/store/?product_id=4927322128521
https://frialigan.se/en/store/?product_id=4927028985993
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Xenomrph on Apr 26, 2020, 02:08:29 PM
I want to preorder Destroyer of Worlds but the shipping cost from their site is, like, half the price of the item itself.

Like yeah I get that it's coming from overseas but I think I'm going to just wait until amazon carries it and then I don't have to pay crazy international shipping.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: cinist3r on Apr 26, 2020, 02:44:54 PM
I was inclined to pre-order this, but then I realized I need friends to play this with.  :'(
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Dingbat on Apr 26, 2020, 03:18:46 PM
Yeah, I have that problem too, maybe it's possible to play against someone online.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Kailem on Apr 26, 2020, 04:22:48 PM
Yeah everything about this RPG looks amazing, but the lack of any of hoomans around who'd be willing to play it with me is one of the big reasons I haven't gotten it yet (or any other tabletop RPGs, for that matter).

On a related note, as someone who's never actually bought or played any tabletop RPGs and thus is a noob in their ways, what would be the benefit of getting this starter kit when the main game already came out last year? Is it just like a "demo" version of the game or something? If you bought the starter kit would it then be a waste of money to buy the full version afterwards? Or similarly, if you just got the main game would the starter kit not even be something you would have to consider getting?
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Clockwork on Apr 26, 2020, 06:50:55 PM
There's so many ways to play online, for those without local roleplaying victims.. er... friends. My group uses a combination of Discord and Zoom. But by no means is that everything (Though Discord does have dice rolling bots, and the Alien RPG one is AMAZING).
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Kailem on Apr 26, 2020, 07:25:59 PM
Quote from: Clockwork on Apr 26, 2020, 06:50:55 PM
There's so many ways to play online, for those without local roleplaying victims.. er... friends. My group uses a combination of Discord and Zoom. But by no means is that everything (Though Discord does have dice rolling bots, and the Alien RPG one is AMAZING).

"You always know a decent throw."

(https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/423691829420290693/5221E33025E04F4F88F956FB2EFB3B6EAC1C6B80/?imw=637&imh=358&ima=fit&impolicy=Letterbox&imcolor=%23000000&letterbox=true)
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Clockwork on Apr 26, 2020, 07:56:36 PM
Ohhhhhhh... that's beautiful.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: j0nesy on Apr 26, 2020, 09:05:39 PM
just bought the core rulebook, if i want to play (not as a gm), will i need to purchase any of the supplementals?
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Apr 27, 2020, 09:18:15 AM
No, that should be enough. Though I love the themed dice.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Kradan on Apr 27, 2020, 02:03:20 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Apr 20, 2020, 08:32:26 AM
I've not watched it yet but here's some footage of a session we did.



Just watched this. My verdict: I want more !
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: j0nesy on Apr 28, 2020, 03:53:21 AM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Apr 27, 2020, 09:18:15 AM
No, that should be enough. Though I love the themed dice.

thanks, did you read the entire rulebook before playing?
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Apr 28, 2020, 09:18:16 AM
No. I'd already played some demos, so I knew about it going in.


And ordered my bundle :)
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Kailem on Apr 28, 2020, 02:29:37 PM
Is the starter kit even something that's worth getting if you already own the full game, or is it aimed mostly at people who don't?
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Apr 28, 2020, 02:38:19 PM
I'd think it's aimed mostly at the people who don't, but Shevvie convinced me with it being a shorter, perhaps almost "quick" guide and the extra goodies (the dice along are almost the same price as the boxset) that it was worth it.


Quote from: Kradan on Apr 27, 2020, 02:03:20 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Apr 20, 2020, 08:32:26 AM
I've not watched it yet but here's some footage of a session we did.



Just watched this. My verdict: I want more !

Glad you enjoyed it! Certainly endeavouring to do more!
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Kradan on Apr 28, 2020, 07:54:49 PM
Oh yeah, I enjoyed it a lot ! It felt really engaging, like a real in-universe ongoing story.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: j0nesy on Apr 28, 2020, 09:25:43 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Apr 28, 2020, 02:38:19 PMGlad you enjoyed it! Certainly endeavouring to do more!

maybe you and shevvie can show us newbies the ropes some time
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: j0nesy on May 06, 2020, 04:50:21 AM
update: played hope's last day at the weekend, it was so much fun. everyone escaped hadley's hope, minus a single facehugged soul

i recommend the alien rpg discord to those looking to get involved!
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: judge death on May 07, 2020, 05:24:35 PM
Quote from: j0nesy on May 06, 2020, 04:50:21 AM
update: played hope's last day at the weekend, it was so much fun. everyone escaped hadley's hope, minus a single facehugged soul

i recommend the alien rpg discord to those looking to get involved!
Theres a discord for this? :O
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: j0nesy on May 08, 2020, 12:30:51 AM
here you go: https://discord.gg/hSQkUTJ (assuming it's ok to link this? ???)
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Gemini on May 09, 2020, 08:56:47 AM
has anyone actually ran a session based around any of the Alien movies yet? or is that too obvious?
could be kinda cool though. experiencing the colony as part of Hope's Last Day is cool enough, actually being part of Aliens even cooler.
remember to give Hudson a good Comtech skill!

could be kind of a parallel universe version of the story. "here's how it could've gone down"

I think the marines could have won the day with a couple of decisions being more effective, and a bit more luck (if that first dropship had made it..)
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Schrödinger on May 14, 2020, 07:20:02 PM
For those with the materials, what size are the maps and can you use minis with them (2 Inch Base)?
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Mr. Clemens on May 15, 2020, 12:35:42 PM
No, the maps are schematics much like you see in the films. But you could map out key areas yourself based on them, for minis play.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Schrödinger on May 15, 2020, 05:16:18 PM
Quote from: Mr. Clemens on May 15, 2020, 12:35:42 PM
No, the maps are schematics much like you see in the films. But you could map out key areas yourself based on them, for minis play.

That's a good idea, and there's plenty of programs to do maps. Thanks for the advice!
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: StanSwitek on May 15, 2020, 09:35:56 PM
I got to play Alien RPG Thursday- we played the Hope's Last Day scenario. A lot of fun, and an easy to learn system. Maybe we could form our own group to play sometime.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: j0nesy on May 21, 2020, 11:21:09 PM
just finished the first act of chariot of the gods, gmed by clara; highlights being shevvie's junkie method acting, and hicks' company agent jumping in a disease riddled medpod to recover from being stabbed in the eye
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Delta Echo Alpha Delta on May 22, 2020, 04:38:49 AM
Quote from: j0nesy on May 21, 2020, 11:21:09 PM
just finished the first act of chariot of the gods, gmed by clara; highlights being shevvie's junkie method acting, and hicks's company agent jumping in a disease riddled medpod to recover from being stabbed in the eye

So glad you had fun. I hope you will enjoy the future torture I will put you through in act II

Here's the footage https://yutani.studio/2020/05/22/lets-play-chariots-of-the-gods-act-i-with-avp-galaxy-studio-yutani/
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Corporal Hicks on May 22, 2020, 06:40:56 AM
Quote from: j0nesy on May 21, 2020, 11:21:09 PM
just finished the first act of chariot of the gods, gmed by clara; highlights being shevvie's junkie method acting, and hicks's company agent jumping in a disease riddled medpod to recover from being stabbed in the eye

In my defence, I did somehow cure it with that ridiculous roll, before my dice abandoned me for the rest of the game! Thanks for running the session Clara, hope you enjoyed it yourself! Also a pleasure to e-meet you j0nesy! Has anyone ever told you that you remind them of Stephen Amell?
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: j0nesy on May 22, 2020, 02:53:01 PM
Quote from: muthur9000 on May 22, 2020, 04:38:49 AM
So glad you had fun. I hope you will enjoy the future torture I will put you through in act II

Here's the footage https://yutani.studio/2020/05/22/lets-play-chariots-of-the-gods-act-i-with-avp-galaxy-studio-yutani/

i fully expect one of us, tops, to make it out alive  :'(

Quote from: Corporal Hicks on May 22, 2020, 06:40:56 AM
In my defence, I did someone cure it with that ridiculous roll, before my dice abandoned me for the rest of the game! Thanks for running the session Clara, hope you enjoyed it yourself! Also a pleasure to e-meet you j0nesy! Has anyone ever told you that you remind them of Stephen Amell?

they have not, but i will take it! last night actually made me consider getting some physical dice, can't beat that dice "sound"
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Corporal Hicks on May 28, 2020, 08:57:01 PM


Livestreaming with Studio Yutani.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: j0nesy on May 28, 2020, 11:11:10 PM
act II is well underway, and we're left with a mini cliffhanger with reid and wilson having just about taken down an abomination
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Delta Echo Alpha Delta on May 29, 2020, 12:15:25 PM
Quote from: j0nesy on May 28, 2020, 11:11:10 PM
act II is well underway, and we're left with a mini cliffhanger with reid and wilson having just about taken down an abomination

I was surprised how much time Act II is taking, I've withheld a lot of story in order to get more in. Excited for next week. Promise I will go to bed on time 😴
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: j0nesy on May 29, 2020, 02:09:51 PM
i'm just happy you're getting some sleep!  :P
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Hudson on May 30, 2020, 11:56:38 PM
I'm finally about to start a campaign with a bunch of strangers, and I'm looking forward to getting a feel for this game. I'm supposed to be the pilot of my group, and I'm hoping to be an android. We'll see what happens.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Jun 05, 2020, 09:13:07 AM


Despite the fact that I think RidgeTop and I derailed that last session, that was just...wow. RidgeTop and I are fighting, I open fire on him as Shevvie does something to the ship, causing my shot to go wild and take down Jonsey! Then everything goes to pot.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: j0nesy on Jun 05, 2020, 02:47:55 PM
:laugh: i'd go with "enhanced" instead of derailed, didn't you then blame shevvie for my demise? as him fixing the ship caused the turbulence that led to the stray shot heading my way haha
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Jun 05, 2020, 02:58:19 PM
Well...I mean...technically it was his fault you took that bolt.  :laugh: Just felt so bad for basically taking the focus of the session after that.  :laugh:
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: j0nesy on Jun 05, 2020, 03:55:10 PM
:laugh: don't feel bad, it was a lot of fun watching it go down!

now all we have to do is wait and see if ridgetop's next character has an equal obsession with visiting the corporate suite
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: [cancerblack] on Jun 07, 2020, 09:26:52 PM
Huge regret I wasn't able to jump in on that game, sounds like you're all having a blast. But real life is a cruel mistress etc.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Delta Echo Alpha Delta on Jun 10, 2020, 03:20:15 AM
Quote from: j0nesy on Jun 05, 2020, 03:55:10 PM
:laugh: don't feel bad, it was a lot of fun watching it go down!

now all we have to do is wait and see if ridgetop's next character has an equal obsession with visiting the corporate suite

Ha ha ha yeah I know right :P
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: j0nesy on Jun 18, 2020, 10:56:41 PM
we finished act III of cotg, and besides shevvie's android, the crew of the sotillo made it out alive!
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Delta Echo Alpha Delta on Jun 21, 2020, 06:03:04 AM
Thanks for playing all!

Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Xiggz456 on Jun 21, 2020, 12:55:18 PM
How did you guys like the story of "Chariot of the Gods"? I haven't played but just reading through the scenario it seemed like a good blend of Alien and Prometheus.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: j0nesy on Jun 25, 2020, 10:14:07 PM
it's really fun! it plays with a bit of the lore, but is still an awesome contained story

we continued shevvie's homebrew tonight, and it went fracking nuts towards the end  ;D
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Jun 26, 2020, 07:35:10 AM
That stress sure can get out of hand. As hilarious as it was.  :laugh:
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: j0nesy on Jun 26, 2020, 06:40:32 PM
looks like shevvie spoke to the effekt team and figured out a workaround so we can avoid that going forward :P
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Jun 29, 2020, 08:01:51 AM
Ahhh! That's good! Did he mention what it was?
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: j0nesy on Jun 29, 2020, 02:54:01 PM
to quote chris: "we'll enforce the panic the first time it comes up but then ignore the "everybody make a panic test" again, that way it only ever happens once and should stop everybody panic looping"
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Jul 04, 2020, 10:09:13 AM
Get those votes in players! It deserves it IMHO.

Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Delta Echo Alpha Delta on Jul 05, 2020, 10:17:16 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jul 04, 2020, 10:09:13 AM
Get those votes in players! It deserves it IMHO.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The vote for the 2020 ENnie Awards, the "Oscars" of tabletop roleplaying, is now LIVE! If you enjoy our games, we would be very grateful for your vote on our Best Game nominees - the ALIEN RPG and MÖRK BORG! <a href="https://t.co/OGB5XcdVid">https://t.co/OGB5XcdVid</a> <a href="https://t.co/mylxTFWd4S">pic.twitter.com/mylxTFWd4S</a></p>— Free League Publishing (@FriaLigan) <a href="https://twitter.com/FriaLigan/status/1279113856477016065?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 3, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Voted!
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Post by: j0nesy on Jul 05, 2020, 10:22:08 PM
me too! it should have been nominated for best interior art too, imo
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Kailem on Jul 07, 2020, 11:20:07 AM
I've got to admit, despite the high likelihood of hardly ever being able to actually play it, that starter set that's due out next month is looking increasingly tempting.

I assume most of you who bought the core rule book got it from Free League's website? If so, what are their shipping rates like (specifically to the UK)? I saw it mentioned in here that they're pretty expensive, but it doesn't seem like they've got their prices listed anywhere that I can see.

Also, do you need to have an account on DriveThruRPG to get the PDFs? I see it's mentioned on a few items that they're sent via them, so is that something you'd need to log in there to have access to or do they just provide links to that site that you can download them from?
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: SM on Jul 08, 2020, 09:00:30 AM
Quote from: j0nesy on Jul 05, 2020, 10:22:08 PM
me too! it should have been nominated for best interior art too, imo

The artwork is top shelf.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Jul 08, 2020, 09:13:33 AM
Quote from: Kailem on Jul 07, 2020, 11:20:07 AM
I've got to admit, despite the high likelihood of hardly ever being able to actually play it, that starter set that's due out next month is looking increasingly tempting.

It's very worth it!

QuoteI assume most of you who bought the core rule book got it from Free League's website? If so, what are their shipping rates like (specifically to the UK)? I saw it mentioned in here that they're pretty expensive, but it doesn't seem like they've got their prices listed anywhere that I can see.

I think it was around £15. I think.

QuoteAlso, do you need to have an account on DriveThruRPG to get the PDFs? I see it's mentioned on a few items that they're sent via them, so is that something you'd need to log in there to have access to or do they just provide links to that site that you can download them from?

Yeah, it'll make you create an account.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Kailem on Jul 08, 2020, 11:24:44 AM
Tyranny!

Nah that doesn't sound so bad, thanks for the response! I saw that a lot of Cyberpunk PDFs go through them too and that's another one I've been eyeing lately, so it'll probably be good for more than just this if I end up getting into any other tabletop RPG's down the line.

And £15 or thereabouts also doesn't sound terrible for around £90 worth of stuff. It's a bit odd that the starter set/Destroyer of Worlds "discount" bundle  is the same price as buying them both individually seems to be, but either way if and when I pick it up I'll definitely be going for the bundle.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Jul 10, 2020, 06:34:25 PM
For those who pre-ordered, the new scenario has been sent out on PDF, as has the new Starter rules - which yes, is the core book without the lore, just the mechanics. Really looking forward to giving this one a go!
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: j0nesy on Jul 10, 2020, 06:47:21 PM
same, cannot wait to give destroyer of worlds a play with you lot!
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: SM on Jul 10, 2020, 11:01:40 PM
There was a couple of silly lore bits in Destroyer... and a mangled Mahabharata quote, but it otherwise looks like a cool scenario in a cool setting.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: j0nesy on Jul 11, 2020, 12:07:56 AM
sm:

did you just proofread the lore/story, or have you played it too?
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Kailem on Jul 11, 2020, 04:58:07 PM
Well I took the plunge and ordered/pre-ordered the core rules, starter set and Destroyer of Worlds! Got the PDFs a few minutes ago and I'm about to delve right into the rules and take a look at the stuff I can look at without being spoiled.

Excited to hopefully play some games with you folks in the near future! ;D
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: SM on Jul 11, 2020, 11:09:50 PM
Quote from: j0nesy on Jul 11, 2020, 12:07:56 AM
sm:

did you just proofread the lore/story, or have you played it too?

The former.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: j0nesy on Jul 12, 2020, 12:09:58 AM
Quote from: Kailem on Jul 11, 2020, 04:58:07 PM
Well I took the plunge and ordered/pre-ordered the core rules, starter set and Destroyer of Worlds! Got the PDFs a few minutes ago and I'm about to delve right into the rules and take a look at the stuff I can look at without being spoiled.

Excited to hopefully play some games with you folks in the near future! ;D

to avoid spoilers, i'd probably only read the rules and at most, the character sheets for DoW. i'll be waiting until after my first playthrough (hopefully week after next, depending on shevvie/hicks schedule) until i read throw the lore stuff

i cannot recommend buying the original core rulebook enough though, the lore content and gorgeous artwork is so worth the money

Quote from: SM on Jul 11, 2020, 11:09:50 PM
The former.

once i've read through it, wouldn't mind hearing what you found silly. did you convey these thoughts to free league/gaska?  :P
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Kailem on Jul 12, 2020, 08:50:57 AM
Yeah I'm really looking forward to getting the core rulebook and digging in to all that sweet, sweet lore. Even just the set-up stuff at the beginning of the starter set PDF is great.

And yes I saw the "only read this scenario book if you're going to be running the game, not if you're playing it" warnings at the beginning of Chariot and Destroyer, so I'm steering well clear of those. I'm glad the agendas are on separate cards to the character stats and bios and stuff so I can at least look at those and see if any take my fancy.

Right now I'm continuing to dig through the rules and figuring out how to do all the stuff and things.

(https://media1.tenor.com/images/eca6afe4de3d933bcb2d6f6773d49cee/tenor.gif?itemid=8003593)
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: j0nesy on Jul 12, 2020, 05:04:44 PM
looking forward to seeing you join our sessions!  :)
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: SM on Jul 12, 2020, 09:45:33 PM
Quote from: j0nesy on Jul 12, 2020, 12:09:58 AM
Quote from: Kailem on Jul 11, 2020, 04:58:07 PM
Well I took the plunge and ordered/pre-ordered the core rules, starter set and Destroyer of Worlds! Got the PDFs a few minutes ago and I'm about to delve right into the rules and take a look at the stuff I can look at without being spoiled.

Excited to hopefully play some games with you folks in the near future! ;D

to avoid spoilers, i'd probably only read the rules and at most, the character sheets for DoW. i'll be waiting until after my first playthrough (hopefully week after next, depending on shevvie/hicks schedule) until i read throw the lore stuff

i cannot recommend buying the original core rulebook enough though, the lore content and gorgeous artwork is so worth the money

Quote from: SM on Jul 11, 2020, 11:09:50 PM
The former.

once i've read through it, wouldn't mind hearing what you found silly. did you convey these thoughts to free league/gaska?  :P

I mentioned them to Free League (though I didn't use the term silly), but I saw a proof of the book, so it may have been too late to make changes.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Jul 30, 2020, 10:24:43 AM
We've got a release date for the physical releases of the Destroyer and the Starter, September 8.

QuoteFree League Publishing today announced that Destroyer of Worlds, the next Cinematic scenario module for the ALIEN RPG, will be officially released on September 8. Destroyer of Worlds, written by sci-fi author Andrew E.C. Gaska, will be launched alongside a new Starter Set for the game.

Destroyer of Worlds lets players take the role of an iconic type of character from the ALIEN universe: the Colonial Marine. A team of Colonial Marines get dropped onto the moon Ariaricus to handle a growing insurgency, but soon find themselves fighting for their lives against enemies beyond their worst nightmares. Priced at $29.99, the Destroyer of Worlds Cinematic scenario comes in a boxed set, including maps, handouts, and cards for a fully immersive tabletop experience.

The ALIEN RPG Starter Set is designed to be the perfect entry point into the game and the ALIEN universe. Affordably priced at $49.99, it contains everything needed to start playing, including an abridged 104-page softcover quickstart of the core rules, 20 custom dice, reference cards, character handouts, a huge starmap, and the complete Cinematic scenario Chariot of the Gods, also penned by Gaska.

For more information about Destroyer of Worlds and the ALIEN RPG Starter Set, go to alien-rpg.com. Both items are available for pre-order on the website.
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Post by: j0nesy on Jul 31, 2020, 01:50:44 AM
Quote from: SM on Jul 12, 2020, 09:45:33 PM
I mentioned them to Free League (though I didn't use the term silly), but I saw a proof of the book, so it may have been too late to make changes.

dave from the effekt podcast partook in our session tonight (playing in shevvie's awesome homebrew!) and he mentioned the second act having a few problems, and he did some work on it after drew, but it still left me really excited to play DoW soon!
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: SpaceKase on Jul 31, 2020, 02:05:53 AM
You guys are going to be doing a podcast on this soon, aren't you?
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Post by: Corporal Hicks on Jul 31, 2020, 08:01:09 AM
Yeah, we've got a review and an interview planned. And we recorded last night's session so I've got try and put that together.
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Post by: Corporal Hicks on Aug 01, 2020, 10:31:23 AM
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: j0nesy on Aug 01, 2020, 01:52:08 PM
i am so, so happy for free league! this is obviously a testament to what they created, but i think it goes a long way in also displaying how wonderful the alien universe can be when done right
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Aug 04, 2020, 08:31:18 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kaqp0jAg6sM&feature=youtu.be&t=5979&fbclid=IwAR2P838oMuK9EzowxQ7JpfJHcocp0vJYGFKpyNWYkqD0JI47y2axyB7pEwg

QuoteIf anyone missed my acceptance speech for the GENCON ENnies award--ALIEN RPG for GOLD BEST GAME 2020, here it is cued up at 1:39:39. 2/3s through my clip you might think my speech is over, but just hold on and bare witness (misspelling intentional) to the consequences of accepting an award from home during a pandemic.
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Post by: SpaceKase on Aug 04, 2020, 12:06:21 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Aug 04, 2020, 08:31:18 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kaqp0jAg6sM&feature=youtu.be&t=5979&fbclid=IwAR2P838oMuK9EzowxQ7JpfJHcocp0vJYGFKpyNWYkqD0JI47y2axyB7pEwg

QuoteIf anyone missed my acceptance speech for the GENCON ENnies award--ALIEN RPG for GOLD BEST GAME 2020, here it is cued up at 1:39:39. 2/3s through my clip you might think my speech is over, but just hold on and bare witness (misspelling intentional) to the consequences of accepting an award from home during a pandemic.

Lol, comedy. Well played Gaska, well played.
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Post by: Corporal Hicks on Aug 17, 2020, 07:53:05 AM
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Kradan on Aug 17, 2020, 10:37:45 PM
WhErEiSpOdCaStReViEwCoRpOrAl?  >:( ??? :-\
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Post by: j0nesy on Aug 18, 2020, 01:07:36 AM
soon  ;)
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Aug 21, 2020, 10:59:33 AM


Shevvie and I will be playing on here tonight with the Effekt Podcast. I think it's 8pm GMT.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Kradan on Aug 21, 2020, 01:31:16 PM
(https://media0.giphy.com/media/QoVS8sd4e84HC/giphy.gif)
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Post by: Corporal Hicks on Aug 24, 2020, 08:00:08 AM
More awards!



New homebrew from Effekt starring Drew Gaska.

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Post by: Kailem on Aug 24, 2020, 08:12:18 AM
Having recently wrapped up my first playthrough of Chariot of the Gods I can indeed confirm that it's a pretty damn great adventure, and also that, of the grand total of one RPG's that I've ever played, the Alien RPG is by far the best and only.

Well deserved!

Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Aug 24, 2020, 08:56:35 AM


Big horror in RPG panel with Free League.


First part of our Actual Play of Shevvie's homebrew is now up!






Part two is up!
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Post by: Kradan on Aug 27, 2020, 03:04:25 PM
I'm sorry for being that guy

Quote from: Kradan on Aug 17, 2020, 10:37:45 PM
WhErEiSpOdCaStReViEwCoRpOrAl?  >:( ??? :-\

Quote from: j0nesy on Aug 18, 2020, 01:07:36 AM
soon  ;)
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Post by: Corporal Hicks on Aug 27, 2020, 05:05:15 PM
It'll be out next month if our Predators guest reviews his interview in time for me to get it released by the end of the month. If not, I'll try and get the review episode finished in time for a release by next Monday. Just finishing up the first pass on that episode.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Kradan on Aug 27, 2020, 07:36:49 PM
 ;)

I'll be there and waiting
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Kailem on Aug 28, 2020, 06:12:02 PM
Short review: it's good.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: j0nesy on Aug 28, 2020, 07:49:04 PM
long review: it's reallyyy good
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Sep 02, 2020, 01:45:50 PM
Part 3 is up!




And the last one!




QuoteThis is just a quick update on Destroyer of Worlds and the new Starter Set. Finally, the shipments to both the USA and the UK have arrived to shore, and should be in the warehouses within days. Shipping out to everyone who has pre-ordered these items will follow as quickly as the staff can manage. Sorry to keep you waiting – we sure hope and think you'll find them worth the wait!

The official release date for both items is this coming Tuesday September 8, but rest assured we will ship out to pre-orders before anyone else. And you still have time to pre-order in our webshop! Complete PDFs go out to you within a few days after purchase.

https://mailchi.mp/92d75b7b7a52/preorder-shipping?e=8becb4d032
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Kailem on Sep 08, 2020, 02:44:15 PM
I need to finish reading the full core rules pdf and then I guess eventually I'll need to find some space for these things to go when they arrive! :laugh:
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Sep 09, 2020, 07:42:24 AM
QuoteThe Destroyer of Worlds cinematic adventure module and a new Starter Set for the multiple award-winning ALIEN tabletop toleplaying game were released today by Free League Publishing.

Having just won a Gold ENNIE Award for Best Game and a People's Choice Award for Best RPG at the UK Games Expo, the official ALIEN RPG today got its first two expansions to the line. Both modules are as of now available in the Free League webshop, in digital format at DrivethruRPG, and soon in hobby stores everywhere.

Destroyer of Worlds, written by critically acclaimed sci-fi author Andrew E.C. Gaska, lets players take the role of an iconic type of character from the ALIEN universe: the Colonial Marine. A team of Colonial Marines get dropped onto the moon Ariaricus to handle a growing insurgency, but soon find themselves fighting for their lives against enemies beyond their worst nightmares. Priced at $29.99, the ALIEN Destroyer of Worlds Cinematic scenario comes in a boxed set, including maps, handouts, and cards for a fully immersive tabletop experience.

The ALIEN RPG Starter Set is designed to be the perfect entry point into the game and the ALIEN universe. Affordably priced at $49.99, it contains everything needed to start playing, including an abridged 104-page softcover quickstart of the core rules, 20 custom dice, reference cards, character handouts, a huge starmap, and the complete Cinematic scenario Chariot of the Gods, also penned by Gaska.

https://www.mynewsdesk.com/us/free-league/pressreleases/destroyer-of-worlds-module-and-starter-set-for-the-alien-rpg-launched-today-3032386


Quote from: Kailem on Sep 08, 2020, 02:44:15 PM
I need to finish reading the full core rules pdf and then I guess eventually I'll need to find some space for these things to go when they arrive! :laugh:

Right there next to the rest of your Alien and Predator goodies!
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Post by: Corporal Hicks on Sep 12, 2020, 03:01:05 PM
Rightio, we're chatting to Drew Gaska about the RPG in a couple of days. As always, offering everyone the chance to post up some questions if they have any for him, and we'll try and include some.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: The Cruentus on Sep 12, 2020, 03:40:02 PM
The question I have is a bit unoriginal and probably already been asked but I would ask is the Alien RPG canon, because there are apparently elements in there that will contradict some information on our wiki. So would definitely like to know if it is canon or not and which elements are just for game mechanics and ones that are full on lore.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Kailem on Sep 12, 2020, 05:39:37 PM
I think I remember someone mentioning in here a while back that the RPG is indeed considered canon, but I'm not sure.

I guess I would ask whether or not he's written a bunch of cinematic scenarios that are all ready to go with a staggered release over several months, or does he wait for feedback from the most recent one before he gets to work on another?

Basically does he have a big backlog of adventures for us to play in the (hopefully) near future, or are we going to have to wait a while to see more? ;)

Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Sep 09, 2020, 07:42:24 AM
Quote from: Kailem on Sep 08, 2020, 02:44:15 PM
I need to finish reading the full core rules pdf and then I guess eventually I'll need to find some space for these things to go when they arrive! :laugh:

Right there next to the rest of your Alien and Predator goodies!

That's the problem, I've got so much stuff scattered all over the place because I barely have enough room to put any of it anywhere! :laugh:


I guess another question would be whether or not he's involved in any way with writing the upcoming sourcebooks (or at least the Colonial Marines one, since that's currently the only one we know of)?
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Post by: Mr. Clemens on Sep 13, 2020, 09:55:15 PM
I'd like to know if there's a sourcebook for Space Truckers in the works! Gotta know how much Stress a dipping bird toy cures! :p

Seriously though, I want that book.  ;D
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Garethmb on Sep 19, 2020, 03:35:00 PM
I just got this in for the magazine but opted to post it online and share as well. Spread it around if you wish as I am curious to see how it does.

The full interview is below.

http://sknr.net/2020/09/19/alien-destroyer-of-worlds-interview/
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Post by: Xenomrph on Sep 21, 2020, 04:22:25 AM
Quote from: The Cruentus on Sep 12, 2020, 03:40:02 PM
The question I have is a bit unoriginal and probably already been asked but I would ask is the Alien RPG canon, because there are apparently elements in there that will contradict some information on our wiki. So would definitely like to know if it is canon or not and which elements are just for game mechanics and ones that are full on lore.
The Alien RPG is canon, but I assume Gaska will confirm that himself if asked in an interview.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Sep 22, 2020, 11:50:21 AM
Quote from: Xenomrph on Jan 11, 2020, 04:29:41 AM
Quote from: SM on Jan 09, 2020, 10:05:31 AM
Quote from: Kailem on Jan 09, 2020, 08:12:50 AM
Given how deep it sounds like the lore rabbit hole goes with this, are there any mentions of places like Vega 4/New Shanghai, San Drad, Ryushi, Bunda or any other locations related to the AVP side of the Alien EU?

No.  The license was Alien/ Prometheus only and the bible that was used as one of the sources didn't contain any AvP locations.


The RPG references Odobenus Station, which is from AvPClassic.

Necro-quoting. That was a mistake. There's only a single reference to Odobenus. The other mention of a station in orbit is given a different name. Not sure if that was fixed in later printings?
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Post by: Xenomrph on Sep 22, 2020, 03:33:07 PM
I only have the first edition so I can't say, but yeah Gaska clarified that that was an error when I talked with him about it.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: j0nesy on Sep 23, 2020, 03:56:44 AM
Quote from: The Cruentus on Sep 12, 2020, 03:40:02 PM
The question I have is a bit unoriginal and probably already been asked but I would ask is the Alien RPG canon, because there are apparently elements in there that will contradict some information on our wiki. So would definitely like to know if it is canon or not and which elements are just for game mechanics and ones that are full on lore.

i'm sure i'm about to butcher the exact verbiage, but i think gaska referred to the events in the alien rpg as "bar room tales; people talk about what's happened/happening, but it could be hearsay, or it could be totally real"
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Sep 23, 2020, 07:43:39 AM
It's something we asked him to talk about in the interview. I really do love that mentality. Also "it's canon until it's not". And he confirmed that ACM was struck from canon. Sick of people telling me I was chatting bullshit about that one so I asked him to clarify.  :laugh:
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Post by: Xenomrph on Sep 23, 2020, 03:13:12 PM
ACM will always be canon in my heart.


I do agree that the idea of things being half-told hearsay that may or may not be true is a cool way to let people craft their own stories the way they want.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Sep 24, 2020, 08:33:12 AM
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Nightmare Asylum on Sep 25, 2020, 05:25:03 AM
I was part of a run-through of Hope's Last Day that just came to a conclusion. I really like the mechanics of this game and the way the action and story plays out. I think I might have to get a copy of the rulebook for myself, maybe run a game one day...
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Sep 26, 2020, 06:59:18 PM


j0nesy and I are going to be playing in a new scenario from Effekt Podcast on the Free League Showcase! Game starts in about 30 minutes!


And I really enjoyed that session! No idea how that was intended for convention play as it didn't feel like 3 hours was enough time either! Some incredible play for an Alien-less scenario!

And here's another thing from the Showcase.

Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Kailem on Sep 28, 2020, 08:05:36 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Sep 22, 2020, 11:50:21 AM
Quote from: Xenomrph on Jan 11, 2020, 04:29:41 AM
Quote from: SM on Jan 09, 2020, 10:05:31 AM
Quote from: Kailem on Jan 09, 2020, 08:12:50 AM
Given how deep it sounds like the lore rabbit hole goes with this, are there any mentions of places like Vega 4/New Shanghai, San Drad, Ryushi, Bunda or any other locations related to the AVP side of the Alien EU?

No.  The license was Alien/ Prometheus only and the bible that was used as one of the sources didn't contain any AvP locations.


The RPG references Odobenus Station, which is from AvPClassic.

Necro-quoting. That was a mistake. There's only a single reference to Odobenus. The other mention of a station in orbit is given a different name. Not sure if that was fixed in later printings?

Just took a look at my pdf copy of the core rules and no, that's still how it's listed; as an orbital Xenomorph research station around LV-426 in two instances, but later with that same station being named as Kathar Station a "a minor research platform maintained by a custodial staff" (it's also listed as Kathar Station on the map, with no references to Odobenus there).

That makes me wonder about Chigusa Corp being included in the list of corporations in the core rules then too, unless it also cropped up somewhere in the Alien EU without the AVP connection?
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: SM on Sep 29, 2020, 12:55:37 AM
Chigusa has a blink-and-you'll-miss-it reference in the Wraith comic.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Kailem on Oct 02, 2020, 10:12:30 AM
Ah, I guess that'd be it then.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Oct 26, 2020, 01:03:52 PM
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Kailem on Oct 26, 2020, 09:12:59 PM
An abandoned oil rig is such a cool setting for any type of horror game. Might have to give this a watch!
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Oct 27, 2020, 02:53:37 PM
QuoteHello! This is the official newsletter for the ALIEN tabletop RPG by Free League Publishing and 20th Century Studios.

As of today, you and your crew can explore the ALIEN universe through virtual tabletop gaming! The ALIEN RPG has now been launched on two VTT platforms: Roll20 and Fantasy Grounds.

At Roll20, you can find a virtual tabletop version of the Alien RPG Starter Set, including all the rules you need to play and the full-length cinematic scenario Chariot of the Gods, written by scifi author Andrew E.C. Gaska. On the platform you can also find the Destroyer of Worlds scenario, a sequel to Chariot of the Gods also written by Gaska and requiring only the Starter Set to play.

On Fantasy Grounds, you can find the ALIEN RPG core rulebook, a full conversion of the hardcover book of a massive 392 pages, as well as the Chariot of the Gods and Destroyer of Worlds scenarios.

All modules are fully integrated with the VTT platforms, with online maps and diagrams, player handouts ready to share, online character sheets, customized virtual dice roller, and more.

https://mailchi.mp/d8d1a3335629/alien-vtt?e=8becb4d032

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Post by: Mr. Clemens on Oct 27, 2020, 04:40:57 PM
I might get to play this thing after all!  ;D
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Shugsi on Nov 12, 2020, 02:04:37 PM
I wish I had people to play with.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Dec 03, 2020, 03:17:12 PM
https://www.facebook.com/FreeLeaguePublishing/posts/4192436210773073

QuoteLock & Load Your Pulse Rifle! The COLONIAL MARINES OPERATIONS MANUAL for the multiple award-winning official ALIEN RPG is now available for PRE-ORDER at https://alien-rpg.com/
The book will be released early next year. If you pre-order the book now, you will get a full PDF of the book ahead of the official release, and a bonus PDF art book! The lavishly illustrated hardback book of 200+ pages will provide all the tools you need to run a full open-world campaign as the iconic Colonial Marines:
*History & Organization – the inside story of the illustrious Colonial Marine Corps.
*Creating Marines – expanded character creation rules for grunts of all kinds.
*Weapons & Vehicles – an extensive chapter with new gear, gloriously illustrated.
*The Frontier War – the framework and backstory for a Colonial Marines campaign.
*Factions on the Frontier – the powers that be and their dark agendas.
Marine Missions – six thrilling missions for your Marines, playable in any order.
*The Endgame – the showdown against a deadly enemy, finally revealed.
Armor piercing rounds sizzle through your defenses. Acrid smoke chokes you. Chemical attacks melt your armor, while bioweapons turn your insides out. It's a living hell—but none of that's as bad as the flashes of gnashing metal teeth that terrorize you every time you try to close your eyes. Welcome to war on the razor edge of space, marine.

https://frialigan.se/en/store/?product_id=6209999667349

QuoteTHIS IS A PRE-ORDER. If you include the book in your order, the entire order will be shipped to you in March, 2021. You will get a complete PDF of the book prior to shipping. As a further pre-order bonus, you get at PDF art book collecting stunning high-res art pieces made by Martin Grip, Gustaf Ekelund and Jarek Kubicki. Perfect to have on a device at the gaming table, to set the mood of the gaming session!

(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/2129/8201/products/AL_COLONIAL_MARINES_COVER_plano.jpg?v=1607002516)

And pre-ordered.
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Post by: Shugsi on Dec 03, 2020, 03:18:57 PM
Wait "Edited by Randy Pitchford"  :o Runs off!!!!!
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Kailem on Dec 03, 2020, 08:15:21 PM
Glad to see this finally being announced officially! And with five scenarios included too! :o That's a lot more than I was expecting for this being a source book and all (not that I'm exactly an expert on how many of that sort of thing you typically get in source books :laugh: )!

Just like the core rules it sounds like it's going to be a good read from both a gameplay and lore standpoint. Now that I've most definitely been bitten by the rpg bug, I'll be pre-ordering this for sure!
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Post by: Xiggz456 on Dec 03, 2020, 09:05:11 PM
Cool I'll certainly preorder for the art book alone! Still have yet to play (thanks Hicks for the Discord link btw) but I couldn't help but finally read through the Destroyer of Worlds scenario. Some more references to the EU include General Spears (Nightmare Asylum) being known for his affinity with bio weapons as well as "grown" soldiers and a Venture Corp pleasure Synthetic (Prototype).
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Post by: Phobos on Dec 04, 2020, 10:16:46 PM
Awesome stuff.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Dec 09, 2020, 09:02:34 PM
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Dec 10, 2020, 11:35:59 AM
Effekt's Actual Plays of the original Destroyer of Worlds before the amendments: https://www.effektap.org/s5/1
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Mr. Clemens on Dec 19, 2020, 09:15:11 PM
Hi all,

I missed all the playthrough videos that have been posted in this thread because I didn't have time to watch any of 'em, but now I do. Trouble is, by this point there's too many to choose from! Can anybody recommend one of the better ones?
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Kailem on Dec 22, 2020, 05:57:26 PM
I avoided watching them when they went up since I figured there was a decent chance I might end up getting the game (which I ultimately did) and didn't want to have the scenarios spoiled ahead of time. Hope's Last Day is the introductory scenario though, so maybe one of those?

That video with Andrew Gaska talking about the Colonial Marines sourcebook was great! Lots of cool little details in there, like bringing the Kenner marine vehicles into the game! As far as I'm concerned this man is doing the Lord's work by bringing in as much Kenner stuff as possible! :D

It's already been mentioned that the next adventure will be "sense of wonder"-themed, but it sounds like we might be getting an explorer-type sourcebook to go along with it too, as well as one for androids specifically at some point in the future. That could be interesting, especially if it features expanded info on combat androids as is implied here.

Interesting to hear that we'll be getting some new creatures in this one too. I guess it makes sense since not everything is alien with a capital "A" and bug hunts are a thing, but that little tease of a creature that's been hinted at/implied in all the original movies but never seen is intriguing. Gonna keep my fingers crossed for an Alien King on that one (I know it's controversial, but I've always liked the idea, be it Rogue, Kenner or Sideshow/Legacy figure).

Either way I pre-ordered my copy earlier and I'm really looking forward to diving in to it whenever it eventually arrives!
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Jan 09, 2021, 03:59:53 PM


Going on live stream shortly!
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Nightmare Asylum on Feb 06, 2021, 05:40:31 AM
Finished up a run of Chariot of the Gods that had been going on for a good few months now. Had a ton of fun. I was Wilson in that one.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Kradan on Feb 06, 2021, 06:30:19 AM
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Feb 06, 2021, 05:40:31 AM
Finished up a run of Chariot of the Gods that had been going on for a good few months now. Had a ton of fun. I was Wilson in that one.

:o
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: The Cruentus on Feb 06, 2021, 10:22:34 AM
Now I am thinkng about cast away and the supporting character known as Wilson....a damn ball.  :laugh:
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Nightmare Asylum on Feb 06, 2021, 03:35:08 PM
Quote from: Kradan on Feb 06, 2021, 06:30:19 AM
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Feb 06, 2021, 05:40:31 AM
Finished up a run of Chariot of the Gods that had been going on for a good few months now. Had a ton of fun. I was Wilson in that one.

:o

We only really got in around two-three sessions a month, acts one and three took two sessions each, and we wound up spending a lot of time exploring in act two so that one took quite a while. :D

It has also been an online game, and for whatever reason, I tend to find that playing tabletop RPGs online tends to take longer than doing so in person.
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Post by: BlueMarsalis79 on Feb 07, 2021, 01:38:38 AM
How many expansions are there now?
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Nightmare Asylum on Feb 07, 2021, 02:55:32 AM
To the best of my knowledge, what's currently out there includes the core rulebook (which includes the "Hope's Last Day" scenario), "Chariot of the Gods," "Destroyer of Worlds," and the upcoming "Colonial Marines."
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Post by: BlueMarsalis79 on Feb 07, 2021, 02:59:27 AM
What's destroyer of worlds?
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Nightmare Asylum on Feb 07, 2021, 05:22:54 AM
Haven't started that one yet so I don't know entirely, but from what I've been told by my group's GM, it is centered around a squad of Colonial Marines (but different from the upcoming expansion that is actually titled "Colonial Marines").
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Kradan on Feb 07, 2021, 06:53:04 AM
Curse of title "Colonial Marines" sub-title is yet to be overthrown
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Post by: SM on Feb 07, 2021, 07:25:37 AM
Quote from: Trash Queen on Feb 07, 2021, 02:59:27 AM
What's destroyer of worlds?

Marines searching for fugitives.

Spoiler
There's a space elevator and UPP.
[close]
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Local Trouble on Feb 07, 2021, 07:30:32 AM
 :o
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Post by: BlueMarsalis79 on Feb 07, 2021, 01:50:25 PM
Okay thank you people.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Kailem on Feb 07, 2021, 03:25:31 PM
Yeah Destroyer is awesome. We played it last year over a period of several weeks and had a ton of fun. It's essentially the second part of a trilogy that began with Chariot, though you don't have to have played that first in order to understand it as Destroyer features completely new characters in a different setting (there are just some story points that call back to Chariot that you'll recognise if you played that first).

As people have said, the characters are all Colonial Marines stationed on a colony base who are tasked with finding some awol fugitives on the eve of an invasion. It's a lot longer than Chariot and is very much an "Aliens"-inspired adventure as opposed to the "Alien" influence of that one. So lots more action, lots more big guns, lots more creatures, and a lot of really cool twists that led to a lot of great "ohhhhhh ****!" moments.

It's really fun and definitely worth playing if you liked Chariot or the rpg in general (especially if you've been itching for more smart guns and apc's to play with). Just make sure you set aside plenty of time to get through it, as it's probably about twice as long as Chariot is, with each act feeling like a mini adventure on its own.
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Post by: BlueMarsalis79 on Feb 07, 2021, 03:28:31 PM
I will buy for the lore to be honest
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Kailem on Feb 07, 2021, 06:14:28 PM
The vast majority of the lore stuff you'll find in the core book, though Destroyer certainly has some of its own. There are some new weapons, vehicles and locations that were cool to see and play with.

The upcoming Colonial Marines Operations Manual sourcebook will probably be a good choice too if you're looking at this from a lore standpoint, since it's apparently going to detail the history and organisation of the marines as well as the various factions in play on the Frontier along with various weapons, vehicles and equipment.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Local Trouble on Feb 07, 2021, 06:35:23 PM
I hope the RPG realizes the UPP better than the comics did.
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Post by: BlueMarsalis79 on Feb 07, 2021, 06:37:34 PM
So do I.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Kailem on Feb 07, 2021, 07:20:37 PM
By the sounds of it they're going to be expanded upon somewhat in the Colonial Marines book, though if I recall correctly from a recent interview with Andrew Gaska they're not going to be the major focus, obviously. But I like how they've been handled in it so far.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Local Trouble on Feb 07, 2021, 08:46:22 PM
I want UPP Spetsnaz with sky-blue berets and AK-style pulse rifles.
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Post by: [cancerblack] on Feb 07, 2021, 08:50:29 PM
Quote from: Local Trouble on Feb 07, 2021, 08:46:22 PM
I want UPP Spetsnaz with sky-blue berets and AK-style pulse rifles.

Pulse technology is decadent western imperialist toy, it break if looked at funny. You see Ivan, under space communism we simply use bigger boolet.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Local Trouble on Feb 07, 2021, 09:04:04 PM
Yeah, I'd expect the UPP uses some cheaper knock-off that's more potentially hazardous to the operator.  Good call.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: SM on Feb 08, 2021, 12:02:43 AM
Quote from: Kailem on Feb 07, 2021, 03:25:31 PM
Yeah Destroyer is awesome. We played it last year over a period of several weeks and had a ton of fun. It's essentially the second part of a trilogy that began with Chariot, though you don't have to have played that first in order to understand it as Destroyer features completely new characters in a different setting (there are just some story points that call back to Chariot that you'll recognise if you played that first).

As people have said, the characters are all Colonial Marines stationed on a colony base who are tasked with finding some awol fugitives on the eve of an invasion. It's a lot longer than Chariot and is very much an "Aliens"-inspired adventure as opposed to the "Alien" influence of that one. So lots more action, lots more big guns, lots more creatures, and a lot of really cool twists that led to a lot of great "ohhhhhh ****!" moments.

It's really fun and definitely worth playing if you liked Chariot or the rpg in general (especially if you've been itching for more smart guns and apc's to play with). Just make sure you set aside plenty of time to get through it, as it's probably about twice as long as Chariot is, with each act feeling like a mini adventure on its own.

Does it still have that dodgy quote from the Mahabharata?
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Kailem on Feb 08, 2021, 03:54:40 AM
Quote from: Local Trouble on Feb 07, 2021, 08:46:22 PM
I want UPP Spetsnaz with sky-blue berets and AK-style pulse rifles.

Their assault rifle of choice in this is the AK-4047, a cheaper, bulkier version of the M41A pulse rifle that does the same amount of damage but doesn't use armour-piercing rounds or have the underslung grenade launcher.

Quote from: SM on Feb 08, 2021, 12:02:43 AM
Quote from: Kailem on Feb 07, 2021, 03:25:31 PM
Yeah Destroyer is awesome. We played it last year over a period of several weeks and had a ton of fun. It's essentially the second part of a trilogy that began with Chariot, though you don't have to have played that first in order to understand it as Destroyer features completely new characters in a different setting (there are just some story points that call back to Chariot that you'll recognise if you played that first).

As people have said, the characters are all Colonial Marines stationed on a colony base who are tasked with finding some awol fugitives on the eve of an invasion. It's a lot longer than Chariot and is very much an "Aliens"-inspired adventure as opposed to the "Alien" influence of that one. So lots more action, lots more big guns, lots more creatures, and a lot of really cool twists that led to a lot of great "ohhhhhh ****!" moments.

It's really fun and definitely worth playing if you liked Chariot or the rpg in general (especially if you've been itching for more smart guns and apc's to play with). Just make sure you set aside plenty of time to get through it, as it's probably about twice as long as Chariot is, with each act feeling like a mini adventure on its own.

Does it still have that dodgy quote from the Mahabharata?

Skimming through it now, it looks like it does. At least I see a quote attributed to the Mahabharata on page 57, so I assume that's the one you're talking about.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: SM on Feb 08, 2021, 10:55:36 AM
Pity.
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Post by: BlueMarsalis79 on Feb 08, 2021, 12:59:24 PM
What's the quote?
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: SM on Feb 09, 2021, 12:02:56 AM
"It was an unknown weapon, a gigantic messenger of death, which reduced to ashes
the entire race. The corpses were so burned as to be unrecognizable. Hair and nails
fell out; pottery broke without apparent cause, and the birds turned white."

It sounded dodgy when I first read it and did some research and could find no such passage in the Mahabharata. I mentioned it Free League and sent them this link (http://www.jasoncolavito.com/the-case-of-the-false-quotes.html), but I was under the impression it was too late to change anything before release.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Feb 10, 2021, 04:21:12 PM
The CM Manual has been delayed.  :'(

QuoteWork on the Colonial Marines Operations Manual for the ALIEN RPG is progressing at a good pace. Layout is well underway and the final touches are now being made to art and text. Check out the sample art and spreads below!

Still, due to some unforeseen circumstances – and the fact that this is turning into a beast of a book – we have sadly come to the conclusion that we will not be able to release it in March as planned. The new plan is to officially release the book on ALIEN Day, April 26. We do apologize for this delay.

https://mailchi.mp/e65b86a144c0/colonial-marines-update

(https://mcusercontent.com/2dcfb24fb7c8d0fb9c2f52040/images/6dd70f6b-9270-4373-95df-18cbbd3f19b2.jpg)
(https://mcusercontent.com/2dcfb24fb7c8d0fb9c2f52040/images/9c13a9c6-bbf5-4ecb-b80e-11d79cbedffc.jpg)
(https://mcusercontent.com/2dcfb24fb7c8d0fb9c2f52040/images/72526dd9-758d-4029-9dc8-a1fb7a34d47d.jpg)
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Kailem on Feb 10, 2021, 04:44:58 PM
Damn, that's unfortunate but not entirely unexpected. Latest word before now seemed to be that it was taking longer than they'd expected and probably wasn't going to ship until late March anyway, so I guess at least now there's the chance for them to get a little extra publicity out of launching it on Alien Day. Plus hopefully we'll still get the pdf version a fair bit earlier, even though it probably won't be until the physical version was originally due to get here now.

Still, loving these new preview pages, especially that Gateway-style space station! The artwork in the rpg is fantastic, so I can't wait to see all the new ships and equipment and just images like this that we'll b getting too.
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Post by: BlueMarsalis79 on Feb 12, 2021, 07:34:06 PM
(https://i0.wp.com/thirdcoastreview.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/Screenshot-2020-10-05-141521.png?resize=768%2C528&ssl=1)
Love this.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Kradan on Feb 13, 2021, 10:10:19 AM
Is it me or is that facehugger pretty big  ?
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Post by: BlueMarsalis79 on Feb 13, 2021, 03:39:04 PM
Yes because it's not a Praeto
or standard variety one.
It's a Royal Facehugger.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Kradan on Feb 13, 2021, 04:47:49 PM
Aaaah, I see
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Post by: BlueMarsalis79 on Feb 14, 2021, 09:32:16 PM
Love the artwork in the book. Find it does stir the imagination.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: FenGiddel on Feb 15, 2021, 01:03:44 AM
Yep. Their Lovecraft books are WOW!
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Feb 20, 2021, 03:53:28 PM


I'm taking part in another RPG livestream shortly.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Mr. Clemens on Feb 20, 2021, 06:40:11 PM
I ended up watching quite a bit of that. Nice to see the game in action, instead of just reading the book.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Xiggz456 on Feb 26, 2021, 03:44:55 PM
All the world building from the RPG core book has really come to the forefront in the new Alien novel "Into Charybdis". I'm about 300 pages deep and I'd highly recommend!

PS: Steering clear of the actual "Into Charybdis" thread until I finish the book so apologies if this has already been brought up.
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Post by: BlueMarsalis79 on Mar 03, 2021, 05:14:09 PM
That's good to hear.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Kailem on Mar 03, 2021, 08:38:41 PM
I love the world building the RPG has done, so much so that I'm at the point now where one of my main concerns about the upcoming TV show is that it doesn't blatantly contradict anything the RPG has laid out as far as lore and world-building goes! :laugh:
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Post by: [cancerblack] on Mar 03, 2021, 08:43:54 PM
The new vidya seems to be broadly following the types of creatures the RPG sets out, so that ought to give some hope, but Hawley will do what he wants, because Hawley.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Kailem on Mar 03, 2021, 08:53:21 PM
"That's what scares me."

(https://y.yarn.co/723eb9fd-926f-4c36-a3fe-c5274ee3c137_screenshot.jpg)
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Xiggz456 on Mar 04, 2021, 01:07:25 PM
Ya I think just like the upcoming Marvel Alien series, Hawley will consider the first 2 films as the only source of canon/world building. It'll be interesting to see if any of it lines up with the current EU timeline or at the very least doesn't affect things in said timeline.
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Post by: BlueMarsalis79 on Mar 04, 2021, 03:25:40 PM
Like the upcoming Marvel Series... that's got Runners, Drones, Praetomorphs, and more stuff from the Prequels?

Yeah... right. 

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Post by: Xiggz456 on Mar 04, 2021, 03:32:34 PM
Quote from: Trash Queen on Mar 04, 2021, 03:25:40 PM
Like the upcoming Marvel Series... that's got Runners, Drones, Praetomorphs, and more stuff from the Prequels?

Yeah... right.

Have you listened to any of the interviews of the author? Those are his words that he's only taking the first two films into consideration. But only time will tell just like the TV series so save your snark until then.
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Post by: BlueMarsalis79 on Mar 04, 2021, 03:35:52 PM
He's said that he doesn't know if Disney will consider anything beyond them part of canon or continuity, despite him being a fan of the third, so either his artist does not care or something's changed between then and now.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Xiggz456 on Mar 05, 2021, 05:28:59 PM
Regardless the point I'm trying to make is when reading the new comic and when watching the new tv series I'm not going to expect it to follow any previous EU media. But it will be interesting to see where it goes nonetheless.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Kailem on Mar 29, 2021, 07:43:43 PM
The Free League monthly update Q&A that's scheduled for Wednesday mentions the Alien rpg, so hopefully we might get an update on the Colonial Marines Operations Manual release:

Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Xenomrph on Mar 30, 2021, 05:42:13 AM
Don't we already know it's coming out on Alien Day?
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Kailem on Mar 30, 2021, 01:49:28 PM
The latest word on the Free League forums indicated it might have been pushed back again, so I'm hoping this stream confirms it either way (and gives us an idea of when the pdf is going to start going out).
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Xiggz456 on Mar 30, 2021, 02:46:38 PM
Speaking of the PDF did anyone who preordered get the free art book? I preordered a few months back but I never got a link for the art book.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Kailem on Mar 30, 2021, 04:20:08 PM
Nope, I don't think anyone's gotten anything yet. That's why I feel like it might have been pushed back again. I seem to remember getting my Destroyer of Worlds pdf a fair while before it was released physically, so I feel like we probably should have started seeing the pdf's for this being sent out by now if it was still on track for a release less than a month from now.


So the latest word is that it's done and has been submitted to Fox No Longer Fox for approval and they're waiting to hear back from them, and as long as they get the ok they'll send the pdf's out for pre-orders out right away. So hopefully the physical release is still on track for Alien day, but it sounds like everything's in a bit of a holding pattern right now.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Xenomrph on Apr 01, 2021, 03:13:22 AM
I sure hope Amazon carries the Colonial Marines book, because I'm not thrilled with having to pay international shipping from FL's website.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Kailem on Apr 02, 2021, 02:14:50 PM
I'm sure it will, it just won't have the artbook you get for pre-ordering or the pdf version (unless Amazon also sells pdf versions of these? Either way I doubt it'll be a physical + digital joint-purchase kinda thing).

I can't remember how much the shipping costs are to the UK, but that sucks if you have to pay extra given that they mentioned in their latest update stream that their warehouses are situated in the UK and the US.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Xiggz456 on Apr 02, 2021, 04:33:01 PM
I don't remember what the shipping costs were but the free art book kind of helps justify the extra shipping costs IMO.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: BlueMarsalis79 on Apr 02, 2021, 05:44:05 PM
Wait did all of them come with one?
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Kailem on Apr 02, 2021, 05:52:25 PM
This is the first, unless the original release of the core rules came with something initially, since I got that later. But the Starter Set and Destroyer of Worlds definitely didn't.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Xiggz456 on Apr 02, 2021, 08:34:59 PM
I've preordered all 3 and this is the first time they've offered the art book. The previous 2 releases just gave you early access with PDF versions of the core books.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Xenomrph on Apr 03, 2021, 12:04:44 AM
Quote from: Kailem on Apr 02, 2021, 02:14:50 PM
I'm sure it will, it just won't have the artbook you get for pre-ordering or the pdf version (unless Amazon also sells pdf versions of these? Either way I doubt it'll be a physical + digital joint-purchase kinda thing).

I can't remember how much the shipping costs are to the UK, but that sucks if you have to pay extra given that they mentioned in their latest update stream that their warehouses are situated in the UK and the US.
That's bizarre, when I tried to order from their site they said the shipping price was like half again the cost of the book, that doesn't make sense if they're shipping from within the US.

Edit-- I just messaged them on facebook, we'll see what happens.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: BlueMarsalis79 on Apr 03, 2021, 01:12:14 PM
And you have to preorder it from their own website? 
Thank you in advance.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Kailem on Apr 03, 2021, 01:20:22 PM
If you want the pdf artbook, yeah.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: BlueMarsalis79 on Apr 11, 2021, 02:07:00 PM
Not pleased with the shipping myself.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: BlueMarsalis79 on Apr 17, 2021, 05:52:12 PM
Still no news on the website.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Kailem on Apr 18, 2021, 05:30:34 PM
Yeah there's no way this'll be launching on Alien Day. Certainly not the physical version anyway. We'd for sure have been seeing pdf's sent out to people who've pre-ordered if it was.

When I pre-ordered Destroyer of Worlds last year I got the pdf a full month before the physical version was released, so I can't see that version launching until late May at this point.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: BlueMarsalis79 on Apr 24, 2021, 01:55:16 AM
Still nothing we only get "late April" on the store, hoping they announce something, come 4/26.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Kailem on Apr 24, 2021, 07:15:19 PM
Yeah it'd be great if that's when they started sending the pdf's out. At the very least here's hoping they give us an update.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Xenomrph on Apr 24, 2021, 09:25:35 PM
I asked Andrew Gaska and apparently the hold up is that (to his knowledge) Disney is yet to approve the book.


Just got an email from FL with an update:

QuoteHello! This is the official newsletter for the ALIEN tabletop RPG by Free League Publishing and 20th Century Studios.

It's high time for another update about the Colonial Marines Operations Manual. First, the good news: the 352-page book is 99% done, ready to invite you into the glorious world of the USCMC. The not so good news is that the final 1% of the process has taken longer than we anticipated. For this we are sorry.

This means we will not be able to release the book on April 26 as we had hoped, not even in its digital form. We do hope however to reach the end of the process very soon, perhaps even in a matter of days, and the moment we do, we will send the full PDF out to everyone who has pre-ordered the book. At that point, we will also send the book to print immediately – our printer is standing by, ready to go – and ship it out to everyone who pre-ordered, before the the book will be released to retail stores.

We will not set a new release date at this time, as we certainly hope and believe that we won't need to keep you waiting much longer. In the interim, please enjoy a few finished spreads from the book below to give you an idea of what's soon to come your way.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Kailem on Apr 25, 2021, 04:46:57 PM
That sounds about right. At least they're going to be sending out the pdf version as soon as they get the ok from Disney. I guess they're just taking longer to go about it than Fox did by themselves, which sucks.

But yeah clearly even Free League don't know when it's going to be coming out, especially the physical version, because even they don't know at this point. But the new artwork looks great!

(https://mcusercontent.com/2dcfb24fb7c8d0fb9c2f52040/images/49614a8c-e022-47a8-bb1e-a955995d1323.jpg)

(https://mcusercontent.com/2dcfb24fb7c8d0fb9c2f52040/images/91016adc-abe7-40d1-b7f8-bb0681072c00.jpg)

(https://mcusercontent.com/2dcfb24fb7c8d0fb9c2f52040/images/1dbd2eb7-eb8b-421f-8869-4d902545d81e.jpg)

(https://mcusercontent.com/2dcfb24fb7c8d0fb9c2f52040/images/09f8ff44-c161-4450-9eed-7f5cfc2cf799.jpg)

(https://mcusercontent.com/2dcfb24fb7c8d0fb9c2f52040/images/426a8ad9-eb5a-4d20-bd03-0c1c47c3707f.jpg)

(https://mcusercontent.com/2dcfb24fb7c8d0fb9c2f52040/images/5604a88b-1ba1-422f-8f06-3c8a63201bb7.jpg)

I like how they've repurposed one of Syd Mead's original unused designs for the Sulaco into a UPP ship that looks like its equivalent version. I love stuff like that, it's a great way to work in those sort of existing "deep cut" lore and designs.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Kradan on Apr 25, 2021, 05:18:38 PM
Kremlin lol  :D
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Kailem on Apr 25, 2021, 05:20:35 PM
Quote from: Kradan on Apr 25, 2021, 05:18:38 PM
Kremlin lol  :D

"Hmm, I wonder if this new ship is from the Three World Empire, or the United Ame-"

*sees name*

"UPP." :D
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Nightmare Asylum on Apr 26, 2021, 07:07:43 PM
Quote from: Kailem on Apr 25, 2021, 04:46:57 PM
(https://mcusercontent.com/2dcfb24fb7c8d0fb9c2f52040/images/1dbd2eb7-eb8b-421f-8869-4d902545d81e.jpg)

Seeing fighters like this in the Alien universe is very odd; gives me more of a Battlestar Galactica impression, to be honest.

Very much looking forward to this scenario overall, though. I've had a lot of fun with "Hope's Last Day" and "Chariot of the Gods" so far.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: SM on Apr 26, 2021, 08:30:58 PM
Not sure I dig the fighters.

And I hope Graham gets properly credited for those blueprints.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Kailem on Apr 26, 2021, 10:13:10 PM
From the looks of it I'd say that's their rendition of the Kenner Evac Fighter. Andrew Gaska mentioned in an interview a few months back that they were going to be including it along with a couple of other Kenner vehicles, like the Hovertread and Stinger XT-37. Didn't expect them to be flying in space though, but then I never had one, so I don't know if that's consistent with whatever lore they came with (if any).
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Xenomrph on Apr 26, 2021, 10:38:06 PM
Quote from: Kailem on Apr 26, 2021, 10:13:10 PM
From the looks of it I'd say that's their rendition of the Kenner Evac Fighter. Andrew Gaska mentioned in an interview a few months back that they were going to be including it along with a couple of other Kenner vehicles, like the Hovertread and Stinger XT-37. Didn't expect them to be flying in space though, but then I never had one, so I don't know if that's consistent with whatever lore they came with (if any).
The Evac Fighter got a name-drop in the core rulebook, too.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: TNF on Apr 26, 2021, 10:41:59 PM
The Syd Mead "Sulaco" is nice to see.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Local Trouble on Apr 27, 2021, 02:45:18 PM
Is that fighter supposed to be USCM or UPP?
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: The Eighth Passenger on Apr 27, 2021, 03:51:35 PM
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Apr 26, 2021, 07:07:43 PM
Seeing fighters like this in the Alien universe is very odd; gives me more of a Battlestar Galactica impression, to be honest.

Agreed, but to be fair, Aliens had this fighter-like ship at Gateway station. I think it was supposed to be a service shuttle or something but it is clearly heavily armed:

(https://alienseries.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/sciencemuseum-003.jpg)
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Kailem on Apr 27, 2021, 05:26:08 PM
Quote from: Local Trouble on Apr 27, 2021, 02:45:18 PM
Is that fighter supposed to be USCM or UPP?

USCM. Though Andrew Gaska mentioned in an livestream a few months back that there'd be a UPP fighter to go along with it, since otherwise it would be a bit unbalanced.

I went and had a look at that Evac Fighter namedrop in the core rules that Xenomrph mentioned and it says that conestoga class frigates can be fitted with external docking racks which they can be deployed from.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Xenomrph on Apr 27, 2021, 08:11:18 PM
Quote from: Kailem on Apr 26, 2021, 10:13:10 PM
From the looks of it I'd say that's their rendition of the Kenner Evac Fighter. Andrew Gaska mentioned in an interview a few months back that they were going to be including it along with a couple of other Kenner vehicles, like the Hovertread and Stinger XT-37. Didn't expect them to be flying in space though, but then I never had one, so I don't know if that's consistent with whatever lore they came with (if any).
I asked Andrew Gaska and yes it's supposed to be the Evac Fighter.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Local Trouble on Apr 27, 2021, 08:14:58 PM
Tell him the UPP fighter better look like a Hind or a MiG.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Xenomrph on Apr 27, 2021, 08:15:22 PM
Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on Apr 27, 2021, 03:51:35 PM
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Apr 26, 2021, 07:07:43 PM
Seeing fighters like this in the Alien universe is very odd; gives me more of a Battlestar Galactica impression, to be honest.

Agreed, but to be fair, Aliens had this fighter-like ship at Gateway station. I think it was supposed to be a service shuttle or something but it is clearly heavily armed:

(https://alienseries.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/sciencemuseum-003.jpg)
I've never seen that before, do you have a screenshot of where it is in the movie?
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Local Trouble on Apr 27, 2021, 08:31:31 PM
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FHXnwHMM.jpg&hash=656fb3f6886acb2e7f956e635a7e5b80976940a7)
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Xenomrph on Apr 27, 2021, 08:48:09 PM
Oh hey, thanks!
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Kailem on Apr 27, 2021, 09:06:42 PM
Quote from: Local Trouble on Apr 27, 2021, 08:14:58 PM
Tell him the UPP fighter better look like a Hind or a MiG.

Given that the Aliens dropship was partially designed to resemble a Huey I always thought that any UPP dropship should have elements of a Hind. A MiG-styled fighter would for sure be a great approach though.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: The Eighth Passenger on Apr 27, 2021, 09:07:54 PM
Quote from: Xenomrph on Apr 27, 2021, 08:15:22 PM
I've never seen that before

It's what you call a "kitbash". Built from different model kits.

The cockpit section is from a Le Mans Porsche and the rear half is from a Macross VF-1 Valkyrie. So there's a little bit of Robotech in the Alienverse.  ;)





Quote from: Kailem on Apr 27, 2021, 09:06:42 PM
Quote from: Local Trouble on Apr 27, 2021, 08:14:58 PM
Tell him the UPP fighter better look like a Hind or a MiG.

Given that the Aliens dropship was partially designed to resemble a Huey I always thought that any UPP dropship should have elements of a Hind.

There was something like that in Raised by Wolves. Built from a real Hind Gunship cockpit section:

(https://imgur.com/tPq5BDf.jpg)

(https://imgur.com/DOelK2s.jpg)
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: SM on Apr 28, 2021, 04:04:57 AM
Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on Apr 27, 2021, 03:51:35 PM
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Apr 26, 2021, 07:07:43 PM
Seeing fighters like this in the Alien universe is very odd; gives me more of a Battlestar Galactica impression, to be honest.

Agreed, but to be fair, Aliens had this fighter-like ship at Gateway station. I think it was supposed to be a service shuttle or something but it is clearly heavily armed:

(https://alienseries.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/sciencemuseum-003.jpg)

"clearly heavily armed"...?
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Local Trouble on Apr 28, 2021, 06:17:08 AM
It gots Robotech, yo!  Prolly has all those missiles and shit.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: SM on Apr 28, 2021, 07:19:54 AM
Needs more wave motion GunZ.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: The Eighth Passenger on Apr 28, 2021, 03:57:23 PM
Quote from: SM on Apr 28, 2021, 04:04:57 AM
"clearly heavily armed"...?

Those little round thingamajigs on the side next to the cockpit with the uh.. guns on them.

You are of course welcome to pretend they're welding lasers or whatever. It's only a pretend spaceship at the end of the day.



Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: SM on Apr 28, 2021, 09:13:55 PM
Considering the ship mounted guns we've seen don't look like that, "clearly heavily armed" seemed to be a bit of a stretch.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Local Trouble on Apr 28, 2021, 09:50:21 PM
True, the Alienverse has a tendency to give its ships lots of spikes, prongs and tubes that resemble weapons but aren't.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: The Eighth Passenger on Apr 29, 2021, 03:18:22 PM
QuoteConsidering the ship mounted guns we've seen don't look like that, "clearly heavily armed" seemed to be a bit of a stretch.

It's a set of guns from a Tamiya military kit. Why is it a "bit of a stretch" to assume they are guns on the ship as well?

If you want to assume they are a pair of unicorn horns then that's fine by me. I'm not going to harass you about it.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: SM on Apr 29, 2021, 08:40:29 PM
I'm very grateful.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Local Trouble on Apr 30, 2021, 01:33:30 AM
This thread got funny.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Kradan on Apr 30, 2021, 08:49:36 AM
Uuuuuunicorrrrrns, hrrrrmmmpffffff !!!

Spoiler
(https://media1.tenor.com/images/e6d39eb4d333ee1891d6a08239e7d5f8/tenor.gif?itemid=9335838)
[close]
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: SM on Apr 30, 2021, 10:44:54 AM
Unicorn horn - Damage 4/ Range short/ Size I/ Cost $4,200,000/ Armor Piercing
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: judge death on May 05, 2021, 07:52:16 PM
Find it worrying that the expansion was set to be released in mars and missed alien day and now we are in may and no word of any progress. any official news or updates when we will have a date for the expansion?  ???
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Kailem on May 06, 2021, 05:58:13 AM
They updated the pre-order page to say June now, so I wouldn't expect a physical release this month either.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Corporal Hicks on May 11, 2021, 06:00:15 PM
It's out on PDF for pre-orders!

https://mailchi.mp/0c0e28941ffa/colonial-marines-pdf-sent?e=8becb4d032

Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: TNF on May 11, 2021, 06:56:04 PM
Yep.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Xenomrph on May 11, 2021, 07:28:13 PM
I caved and preordered through FL's website.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Kailem on May 11, 2021, 07:33:21 PM
Got my pre-order pdf today! Looks like there's a lot packed in there! I'm looking forward to digging in to it properly.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Xenomrph on May 11, 2021, 07:43:26 PM
I want my PDF now now nowwww

(https://i.imgur.com/yXQMB6c.gif)
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: judge death on May 11, 2021, 08:11:15 PM
Got it too as I preordered it^^ Just have to find the time to read it now xD
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Xenomrph on May 11, 2021, 10:46:30 PM
I got my PDF, been skimming it. Spotted a neat easter egg on pages 200 and 203.

Spoiler
It's my name, "Dellamarggio". Brazen and incompetent indeed.  :D
[close]
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Local Trouble on May 12, 2021, 04:54:12 AM
Quote from: Xenomrph on May 11, 2021, 10:46:30 PM
I got my PDF, been skimming it. Spotted a neat easter egg on pages 200 and 203.

Spoiler
It's my name, "Dellamarggio". Brazen and incompetent indeed.  :D
[close]

Does that mean you're canon now?
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Xenomrph on May 12, 2021, 06:08:19 AM
Quote from: Local Trouble on May 12, 2021, 04:54:12 AM
Quote from: Xenomrph on May 11, 2021, 10:46:30 PM
I got my PDF, been skimming it. Spotted a neat easter egg on pages 200 and 203.

Spoiler
It's my name, "Dellamarggio". Brazen and incompetent indeed.  :D
[close]

Does that mean you're canon now?
I warned you (twice!).

Quote from: Xenomrph on May 03, 2019, 06:17:17 AM
Quote from: Local Trouble on May 02, 2019, 08:03:14 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/WCFBYRg.jpg)
I am canon.

Quote from: Xenomrph on Aug 14, 2020, 07:17:57 AM
I AM CANON
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Kradan on May 12, 2021, 08:39:50 AM
I wonder what SM would say about that
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: BlueMarsalis79 on May 12, 2021, 08:52:40 AM
Anything particularly interesting in this one?
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: judge death on May 12, 2021, 10:36:36 AM
Quote from: Kradan on May 12, 2021, 08:39:50 AM
I wonder what SM would say about that
As they take in feedback to fix faults and typos etc Im sure SM already made sure thats gone for the real book release ;)
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Xenomrph on May 12, 2021, 12:28:29 PM
Quote from: judge death on May 12, 2021, 10:36:36 AM
Quote from: Kradan on May 12, 2021, 08:39:50 AM
I wonder what SM would say about that
As they take in feedback to fix faults and typos etc Im sure SM already made sure thats gone for the real book release ;)
Yeah but they spelled my name right both times ;)


Quote from: Kradan on May 12, 2021, 08:39:50 AM
I wonder what SM would say about that
I know what the author of the book says about it. :p

Quote from: Trash Queen on May 12, 2021, 08:52:40 AM
Anything particularly interesting in this one?
I've only skimmed it at this point but the old EU references are wall to wall. Off the top of my head (I'll put it in spoilers so other people can discover them)
Spoiler
Wilks and Spears from Nightmare Asylum get their own stat lines
Ridgeway tanks and Bougainville starships (the Conestoga successor) get their own statlines
The f**kin' Kenner vehicles like the XT-37 Stinger and Evac Fighter get their own statlines
The Geholgod Institute and Dr. Keitel from Aliens: Apocalypse get mentioned
The weird mutated chestburster from 'Aliens: Kidnapped' gets its own statline
The MOX units from 'Aliens: Tribes' gets its own statline
There's a whole campaign mission based around O'Bannon's World from the Colonial Marines comic
The Arcturians (now Arctura) from the old RPG are back
The Church of Immaculate Conception from Earth Hive are the backbone of most of the campaign
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That's what I've caught just from briefly skimming it.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: BlueMarsalis79 on May 12, 2021, 02:00:29 PM
That's neat.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Local Trouble on May 14, 2021, 01:01:36 AM
Quote from: Xenomrph on May 12, 2021, 06:08:19 AM
Quote from: Local Trouble on May 12, 2021, 04:54:12 AM
Quote from: Xenomrph on May 11, 2021, 10:46:30 PM
I got my PDF, been skimming it. Spotted a neat easter egg on pages 200 and 203.

Spoiler
It's my name, "Dellamarggio". Brazen and incompetent indeed.  :D
[close]

Does that mean you're canon now?

I warned you (twice!).

Quote from: Xenomrph on May 03, 2019, 06:17:17 AM
Quote from: Local Trouble on May 02, 2019, 08:03:14 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/WCFBYRg.jpg)
I am canon.

Quote from: Xenomrph on Aug 14, 2020, 07:17:57 AM
I AM CANON

I can't deny it. :-\

Does this have any bearing on whether or not David is the Alien's creator?
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: SM on May 15, 2021, 10:22:27 AM
Had a bit of a read.  Idiocy about WY co-financing the USCM on the first page.  And doesn't seem to have any acknowledgement to Leigh Brimmicombe Wood whatsoever.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Xenomrph on May 15, 2021, 06:44:53 PM
Quote from: SM on May 15, 2021, 10:22:27 AM
Had a bit of a read.  Idiocy about WY co-financing the USCM on the first page.  And doesn't seem to have any acknowledgement to Leigh Brimmicombe Wood whatsoever.
*Lee

Bounced it off Gaska, he said Lee is acknowledged in the final print version of the book.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Local Trouble on May 15, 2021, 10:27:52 PM
Quote from: SM on May 15, 2021, 10:22:27 AM
Idiocy about WY co-financing the USCM on the first page.

Oof.  That's awful.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: BlueMarsalis79 on May 15, 2021, 11:04:16 PM
Can I get an exact quotation?
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: [cancerblack] on May 15, 2021, 11:19:59 PM
Was that not the case in some other things? I'm sure I remember a story where WY had to effectively bail out the military and them ending up as glorified PMCs?
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Local Trouble on May 15, 2021, 11:27:38 PM
https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/index.php?topic=61174.msg2342506#msg2342506
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: BlueMarsalis79 on May 15, 2021, 11:29:15 PM
AVP 2010 implies such a relationship.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: SM on May 16, 2021, 02:17:21 AM
Quote from: [cancerblack] on May 15, 2021, 11:19:59 PM
Was that not the case in some other things? I'm sure I remember a story where WY had to effectively bail out the military and them ending up as glorified PMCs?

It was the case in The Rage War books (set in the 27th century).

This, along with WY financing the ICC, is lazy, creatively dull, and has no basis in the source material.

Certain individuals trying to exert influence over the USCM via unofficial means is more interesting and fits with the existing material.

Especially since there were a couple of stories in the works featuring Olivia Shipp that would've explored the USCM and WY being too cozy and how she was instrumental in that changing and making the USCM more independent.  Which I think it alluded to in the first issue of the new comics.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Xenomrph on May 16, 2021, 02:40:14 AM
If the material is set in the future from 'Aliens', "times change" is a pretty valid explanation for things changing. Using "the year 2010" as "source material", the current US political climate seems pretty outlandish and unrealistic, and yet here we are.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Local Trouble on May 16, 2021, 02:49:51 AM
Quote from: Xenomrph on May 16, 2021, 02:40:14 AMIf the material is set in the future from 'Aliens', "times change" is a pretty valid explanation for things changing. Using "the year 2010" as "source material", the current US political climate seems pretty outlandish and unrealistic, and yet here we are.

So anything goes?  Like turning the Alien into the creation of some crazy android, say?
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Xenomrph on May 16, 2021, 03:10:11 AM
Quote from: Local Trouble on May 16, 2021, 02:49:51 AM
Quote from: Xenomrph on May 16, 2021, 02:40:14 AMIf the material is set in the future from 'Aliens', "times change" is a pretty valid explanation for things changing. Using "the year 2010" as "source material", the current US political climate seems pretty outlandish and unrealistic, and yet here we are.

So anything goes?  Like turning the Alien into the creation of some crazy android, say?
No one said anything about *liking* the changes. I'm not particularly thrilled with the idea either, although I can understand it and I'm ultimately okay with it. The point is that "the source material" isn't entirely relevant when the story is set chronologically after it. People are going to have different thresholds of what changes are "too much" (such as people who don't like 'Aliens' when compared to the first movie - one could argue that the military action movie romp seen in the second movie is lazy, creatively dull, and has no basis in 'Alien'), but citing "the source material" as if it's some objective truth that can't be interpreted in different ways is pretty lazy and creatively bankrupt.

Also that's not in the future from the standpoint of "the source material", that's a retcon to the past. Nice try, though. ;)

That said, you're still making a tangentially salient point.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: BlueMarsalis79 on May 16, 2021, 04:34:55 PM
Bought out by Walmart.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Kradan on May 16, 2021, 05:40:36 PM
Quote from: SM on May 16, 2021, 02:17:21 AM
Quote from: [cancerblack] on May 15, 2021, 11:19:59 PM
Was that not the case in some other things? I'm sure I remember a story where WY had to effectively bail out the military and them ending up as glorified PMCs?

It was the case in The Rage War books (set in the 27th century).

This, along with WY financing the ICC, is lazy, creatively dull, and has no basis in the source material.

Certain individuals trying to exert influence over the USCM via unofficial means is more interesting and fits with the existing material.

Especially since there were a couple of stories in the works featuring Olivia Shipp that would've explored the USCM and WY being too cozy and how she was instrumental in that changing and making the USCM more independent.  Which I think it alluded to in the first issue of the new comics.

I'm OK with WY controlling USCM in Rage War trilogy 'cause it's set so far in the future from original 4 movies that it doesn't really affect anything established before
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Xenomrph on May 16, 2021, 05:58:38 PM
Quote from: Kradan on May 16, 2021, 05:40:36 PM
it doesn't really affect anything established before
This guy gets it.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: SM on May 17, 2021, 02:52:36 AM
Quote from: Kradan on May 16, 2021, 05:40:36 PM
Quote from: SM on May 16, 2021, 02:17:21 AM
Quote from: [cancerblack] on May 15, 2021, 11:19:59 PM
Was that not the case in some other things? I'm sure I remember a story where WY had to effectively bail out the military and them ending up as glorified PMCs?

It was the case in The Rage War books (set in the 27th century).

This, along with WY financing the ICC, is lazy, creatively dull, and has no basis in the source material.

Certain individuals trying to exert influence over the USCM via unofficial means is more interesting and fits with the existing material.

Especially since there were a couple of stories in the works featuring Olivia Shipp that would've explored the USCM and WY being too cozy and how she was instrumental in that changing and making the USCM more independent.  Which I think it alluded to in the first issue of the new comics.

I'm OK with WY controlling USCM in Rage War trilogy 'cause it's set so far in the future from original 4 movies that it doesn't really affect anything established before

I don't have a problem with it either that far in the future.  It's when they try to crowbar this shit in where it doesn't belong AND is really unnecessary.  There is no reason for this rubbish to be in there.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: SiL on May 17, 2021, 03:04:26 AM
But WY controls everything!

That's how the movies go, right?
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: SM on May 17, 2021, 03:27:13 AM
I wouldn't know.  I don't watch movies.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Xenomrph on May 17, 2021, 03:44:20 AM
Quote from: SM on May 17, 2021, 02:52:36 AM
Quote from: Kradan on May 16, 2021, 05:40:36 PM
Quote from: SM on May 16, 2021, 02:17:21 AM
Quote from: [cancerblack] on May 15, 2021, 11:19:59 PM
Was that not the case in some other things? I'm sure I remember a story where WY had to effectively bail out the military and them ending up as glorified PMCs?

It was the case in The Rage War books (set in the 27th century).

This, along with WY financing the ICC, is lazy, creatively dull, and has no basis in the source material.

Certain individuals trying to exert influence over the USCM via unofficial means is more interesting and fits with the existing material.

Especially since there were a couple of stories in the works featuring Olivia Shipp that would've explored the USCM and WY being too cozy and how she was instrumental in that changing and making the USCM more independent.  Which I think it alluded to in the first issue of the new comics.

I'm OK with WY controlling USCM in Rage War trilogy 'cause it's set so far in the future from original 4 movies that it doesn't really affect anything established before

I don't have a problem with it either that far in the future.  It's when they try to crowbar this shit in where it doesn't belong AND is really unnecessary.  There is no reason for this rubbish to be in there.
Okay, I'll bite.

Why doesn't it belong, and why is it unnecessary?

Like I'm not a huge fan of the idea of WY running the universe although I see it as an easy conclusion to reach given the trajectory of the first three movies, and corporate overreach is an important through line in the first three movies. I don't think "co-financing the military" is outside the realm of possibility given how fast Burke is able to procure an entire warship and a military officer he can conveniently railroad, especially with Burke being essentially a lone actor. It doesn't mean they own the military, just that they're able to exert influence sometimes.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Local Trouble on May 17, 2021, 05:25:47 AM
Quote from: Xenomrph on May 17, 2021, 03:44:20 AM
Quote from: SM on May 17, 2021, 02:52:36 AMI don't have a problem with it either that far in the future.  It's when they try to crowbar this shit in where it doesn't belong AND is really unnecessary.  There is no reason for this rubbish to be in there.

Okay, I'll bite.

Why doesn't it belong, and why is it unnecessary?

Like I'm not a huge fan of the idea of WY running the universe although I see it as an easy conclusion to reach given the trajectory of the first three movies, and corporate overreach is an important through line in the first three movies. I don't think "co-financing the military" is outside the realm of possibility given how fast Burke is able to procure an entire warship and a military officer he can conveniently railroad, especially with Burke being essentially a lone actor. It doesn't mean they own the military, just that they're able to exert influence sometimes.

Was it ever established that Burke procured anything?  I always assumed it was simply the USCM's responsibility to investigate something like the loss of contact with a colony whether Weyland-Yutani had a financial stake or not.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: SM on May 17, 2021, 05:59:57 AM
Quite.

The USCM are supposed to be more tied to the ECA as public service.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Xenomrph on May 17, 2021, 06:18:54 AM
Quote from: Local Trouble on May 17, 2021, 05:25:47 AM
Quote from: Xenomrph on May 17, 2021, 03:44:20 AM
Quote from: SM on May 17, 2021, 02:52:36 AMI don't have a problem with it either that far in the future.  It's when they try to crowbar this shit in where it doesn't belong AND is really unnecessary.  There is no reason for this rubbish to be in there.

Okay, I'll bite.

Why doesn't it belong, and why is it unnecessary?

Like I'm not a huge fan of the idea of WY running the universe although I see it as an easy conclusion to reach given the trajectory of the first three movies, and corporate overreach is an important through line in the first three movies. I don't think "co-financing the military" is outside the realm of possibility given how fast Burke is able to procure an entire warship and a military officer he can conveniently railroad, especially with Burke being essentially a lone actor. It doesn't mean they own the military, just that they're able to exert influence sometimes.

Was it ever established that Burke procured anything?  I always assumed it was simply the USCM's responsibility to investigate something like the loss of contact with a colony whether Weyland-Yutani had a financial stake or not.
I'd have to check if the novelization says anything, but the movie certainly leaves it open to interpretation.

But let's look at the scenario. If the USCM investigates independently of WY, why is there a WY rep present on the mission (and why is that rep specifically Burke, a person who didn't even know the colony existed 2 weeks prior)? Why didn't they tell him to sit it out? What service is he possibly going to provide?
Why isn't anyone else from Ripley's inquest (or anyone representing those parties) present on the mission, if they all have a stake in the colony?
Why is the commanding officer on the mission conveniently someone that Burke can manipulate? I guess if someone more experienced had been assigned, Burke's whole plan would have been hosed?

The RPG isn't saying W-Y owns the USCM, just that they can leverage them sometimes (as evidenced by how quickly and easily Burke is able to insert himself into the Sulaco mission and get an inexperienced commander in charge, and Burke manages to apparently do it on his own). I always assumed Burke had *some* kind of leverage.
That's not even that unrealistic in today's US military climate where huge companies have enormous exclusive contracts, let alone centuries in the future.

Also worth pointing out that the History section of the Colonial Marine sourcebook at no point even alludes to WY "owning" the USCM or anything that extreme.

Is it possible SM only read the first page of the book and flipped out, rather than continuing to read and looking for context? ???

Quote from: SM on May 17, 2021, 05:59:57 AM
Quite.

The USCM are supposed to be more tied to the ECA as public service.
Where is this "supposed to be" stated?
Or is it headcanon?

Edit-- this is the closest the script gets on the topic:
QuoteRipley stares at his like he's a particularly
        disagreeable fungus.

                                  RIPLEY
                   You son of a bitch.

                                  BURKE
                          (hardening)
                   Don't make me pull rank, Ripley.

                                  RIPLEY
                   What rank?  I believe Corporal Hicks
                   has authority here.

                                  BURKE
                   Corporal Hicks!?

                                  RIPLEY
                   This operation is under military
                   jurisdiction and Hicks is next in
                   chain of command.  Right?

                                  HICKS
                   Looks that way.

Burke starts to lose it and it's not a pretty sight.

                                  BURKE
                   Look, this is a multimillion
                   dollar operation.  He can't make
                   that kind of decision.  He's just
                   a grunt!
                          (glances at Hicks)
                   No offense.

The novelization adds a bit more to Ripley's dialogue:
Quote"This operation is under military jurisdiction," she reminded him quietly. "That's the way the Sulaco's dispatch orders read. Maybe you didn't bother to read them. I did. That's the way Colonial Administration worded it. You and I, Burke, we're just observers."

I don't think that changes much, given what I said above. It's classified as a military op but Burke certainly doesn't seem to care, no matter what the "official" papers say.

"The source material", as SM put it (reads: the movie) certainly leaves it open for interpretation.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: SiL on May 17, 2021, 06:51:44 AM
I think we need to start with where you're getting the notion Burke did half the things you're saying ???

He sent the colonists out to investigate the derelict but that's about it.

Quotewhy is there a WY rep present on the mission
Because they think it's a routine communication failure and want one of their own to be there.

Quoteand why is that rep specifically Burke,
He likely got a ride on the Sulaco due to his relation to Ripley.

QuoteWhy isn't anyone else from Ripley's inquest (or anyone representing those parties) present on the mission, if they all have a stake in the colony?
The people at the inquiry did have their own person on the mission -- Bishop.

QuoteWhy is the commanding officer on the mission conveniently someone that Burke can manipulate? I guess if someone more experienced had been assigned, Burke's whole plan would have been hosed?
Burke is never shown to manipulate Gorman. Burke only hatches the plan to smuggle Aliens long after the shit hits the fan -- what plan does he have before that, exactly?

EDIT

Right, asking Bishop to take the Aliens back.

... but that's Bishop who agrees, not Gorman. We never find out what Gorman thinks of the idea.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: SM on May 17, 2021, 07:02:40 AM
Burke even sides with Ripley against Gorman when she drives into the AP station.  Possibly for his own nefarious purposes, but he's not shown to be manipulating or having some conspiracy with Gorman.

QuoteBecause they think it's a routine communication failure and want one of their own to be there.

Why Burke went is even asked and answered in the film itself.

Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Xenomrph on May 17, 2021, 07:05:24 AM
That begs the question, was Burke acting alone? If he was, how did he manage to insert specifically himself into the mission without any kind of leverage?

I don't think the movie establishes Bishop's role within the organization other than that he's part of the Marines. If he represents the other agencies he certainly doesn't act like it or bring them up.

Burke's plan was obviously to bring back samples - he tells Bishop to do it. Burke's plan from jump was obviously to get samples one way or another, and Gorman being fresh out of the academy would certainly make him more malleable. Like I said, I guess Burke would have been hosed if he'd gotten literally anyone else running the show.

I genuinely always thought it was obvious that Gorman's assignment to the mission was intentional and likely Burke's doing, specifically because he could be manipulated if the need arose.

No one said anything about a conspiracy with Gorman, it's clear Gorman barely knows what's going on.

The movie establishes why a company rep went, not why it's Burke specifically.

Edit— I'd think that if Bishop represented a bunch of government agencies that he would frown on bringing potentially hostile organisms through quarantine like Burke asked him to. Whereas if he was USCM property and the USCM can be leveraged by WY...

We don't see what Gorman thinks of Burke's plan, but I stand by my assessment that Gorman being so new would let Burke chance it.

Again, I don't get SM's anathema to the idea that the company might have some kind of limited, occasional control within the USCM, especially the way it gets portrayed later in the CM Sourcebook, and the way 'Aliens' can be interpreted.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Local Trouble on May 17, 2021, 07:30:05 AM
Quote from: Xenomrph on May 17, 2021, 07:05:24 AMI'd think that if Bishop represented a bunch of government agencies that he would frown on bringing potentially hostile organisms through quarantine like Burke asked him to. Whereas if he was USCM property and the USCM can be leveraged by WY...

I thought Bishop looked pretty uneasy about Burke's instructions.  Even so, as the ranking company rep, Burke may have had a legitimate claim to the find which Bishop had no legal authority to deny.

Besides, he didn't say that he was going to smuggle them through ICC quarantine for Burke.  I'd imagine he thought the whole thing would be done by the book.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: SiL on May 17, 2021, 07:38:52 AM
Quote from: Xenomrph on May 17, 2021, 07:05:24 AM
If he was, how did he manage to insert specifically himself into the mission without any kind of leverage?
Ripley could be his leverage.

QuoteI don't think the movie establishes Bishop's role within the organization other than that he's part of the Marines.
It doesn't really establish him as part of the unit. He's given no rank and doesn't sit with the rest of the Marines.

QuoteI genuinely always thought it was obvious that Gorman's assignment to the mission was intentional and likely Burke's doing, specifically because he could be manipulated if the need arose.
Nothing in the film really suggests or supports this. Burke seems as unimpressed by Gorman's inexperience as anyone.

Also nothing suggests that Gorman would be able to facilitate sneaking the Aliens through quarantine.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Xenomrph on May 17, 2021, 07:53:56 AM
Local:

I think you can almost go either way with it.

If his only choice is to smuggle them, Bishop is clearly following his instructions either way. I never got the impression he was "uneasy", but I don't think that's an invalid read of things either.

If there's an entirely above board way to get them through quarantine, then the question becomes "why would Burke try to smuggle them?" Or was he even going to? If one wants to play Devil's advocate I guess.

The point of this whole exercise is that there's way more than a little wiggle room to allow for "WY co-finances the USCM" to coexist with the movie, especially given the later context the RPG provides, and that SM might have gone off a little half-cocked.

SiL:
Bishop knows how to operate USCM equipment and the Sulaco squad has obviously served with him before (the knife trick).

Re: Gorman, I'm not really sure what else to say. I stand by my assessment of him. Could he have smuggled Aliens through? Maybe, probably not. Could he have been convinced to use official channels to do so? Yes, definitely. Could he have been lied to by Burke as to what those official channels were and how much claim WY has to things? Yeah, I think so. I definitely think Burke saw Gorman as someone he could leverage if it came to it - he tries it by proxy when he says Hicks isn't qualified to make command decisions. I definitely think he still would have played the "substantial dollar value" card had Gorman not been incapacitated, and expected positive results.

I apologize for not using quotes, it's very late and I'm phone posting.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: SiL on May 17, 2021, 09:50:06 AM
But the film doesn't at all support Burke manipulating or intending to manipulate Gorman. They barely interact in the whole film. Besides which the film actually kind of paints him as a bit hopeless. Slimy, sure, but his tactics amount to going "c'mon, just commit crimes with me, please?" :laugh:

It feels like you're really overselling Burke in the film. There's nothing showing him as some master manipulator.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: BlueMarsalis79 on May 17, 2021, 09:56:35 AM
I actually agree with you on this Xeno, Gorman's inexperience's so vital to any of Burke's potential plans that I have to believe certainly it is intentional to a degree for it to just be a coincidence paints the military as idiots overmuch for my liking, and the Marines have clearly served with and have a ongoing relationship with Bishop.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: SM on May 17, 2021, 10:37:01 AM
Quote from: SiL on May 17, 2021, 09:50:06 AM
But the film doesn't at all support Burke manipulating or intending to manipulate Gorman. They barely interact in the whole film. Besides which the film actually kind of paints him as a bit hopeless. Slimy, sure, but his tactics amount to going "c'mon, just commit crimes with me, please?" :laugh:

It feels like you're really overselling Burke in the film. There's nothing showing him as some master manipulator.

Burke's an opportunist.  When they interrogated Burke after he let the huggers loose, it was up to Hicks to question Ripley's story.  Gorman stood by and said nothing.  It would've been in Burke's interest to out Gorman as some sort of co-conspirator if they were threatening to execute him - if only to sow discord.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Xenomrph on May 17, 2021, 11:14:17 AM
Quote from: SM on May 17, 2021, 10:37:01 AM
Quote from: SiL on May 17, 2021, 09:50:06 AM
But the film doesn't at all support Burke manipulating or intending to manipulate Gorman. They barely interact in the whole film. Besides which the film actually kind of paints him as a bit hopeless. Slimy, sure, but his tactics amount to going "c'mon, just commit crimes with me, please?" :laugh:

It feels like you're really overselling Burke in the film. There's nothing showing him as some master manipulator.

Burke's an opportunist.  When they interrogated Burke after he let the huggers loose, it was up to Hicks to question Ripley's story.  Gorman stood by and said nothing.  It would've been in Burke's interest to out Gorman as some sort of co-conspirator if they were threatening to execute him - if only to sow discord.
Again, no one said anything about a conspiracy between Gorman and Burke.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: The Cruentus on May 17, 2021, 11:14:46 AM
Yeah I didn't particularly like that part where it makes Gorman an accessory so to speak. It also doesn't make sense for the rest of the story. If Burke told Gorman about the Aliens, then the marines shouldn't have been as skepitcal as they were in the beginning.

Also SM, you may need to clear your messages. I couldn't send a message to you. :laugh:
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Xenomrph on May 17, 2021, 11:17:56 AM
Gorman knew about the Aliens, they're in Ripley's report that the rest of the Marines didn't bother to read (although Gorman read it - he instructs the other Marines to read it and they blow him off).
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: The Cruentus on May 17, 2021, 11:22:31 AM
Yes, but if the matter concerning the xenos was a serious thing for Burke and by proxy, Gorman who was aiding him. Then there should have been more emphasis on making the marines take it seriously. Gorman himself doesn't really know what the problem was in the film. He simply say "A xenomorph may be involved" So there was no certainty.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Xenomrph on May 17, 2021, 11:25:35 AM
Quote from: The Cruentus on May 17, 2021, 11:22:31 AM
Yes, but if the matter concerning the xenos was a serious thing for Burke and by proxy, Gorman who was aiding him. Then there should have been more emphasis on making the marines take it seriously. Gorman himself doesn't really know what the problem was in the film. He simply say "A xenomorph may be involved" So there was no certainty.
Sure, but even Burke didn't know for sure that Ripley wasn't full of shit at that point. He only starts to get confirmation later when the marines enter the colony ("Concentrated acid for blood...").
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: BlueMarsalis79 on May 17, 2021, 11:38:09 AM
Yeah no conspiracy just an implied partial exertion of influence on the state of the mission, makes sense to me, otherwise it's just entirely a coincidence that someone so inexperienced ended up in charge and I frankly don't buy it.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: judge death on May 17, 2021, 05:47:00 PM
lol some week after people saying they are fine with canon changing and changing what we knew, now when its shown Weyland yutani cofinanced the colonial marines and ina  way owns them and changing it: same people now complain over it xD
Well its canon now no matter what we think about it.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Xenomrph on May 17, 2021, 06:21:35 PM
Quote from: judge death on May 17, 2021, 05:47:00 PM
lol some week after people saying they are fine with canon changing and changing what we knew, now when its shown Weyland yutani cofinanced the colonial marines and ina  way owns them and changing it: same people now complain over it xD
Well its canon now no matter what we think about it.
To be fair, like I mentioned different people have different thresholds for change, or what changes are made.

Granted it pays to get the full context of what was changed, too.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: judge death on May 17, 2021, 07:01:54 PM
Yes, exactly what you say :) Im still reading it but not a big issue to me but can understand it is to some.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: SiL on May 17, 2021, 08:32:11 PM
Quote from: Xenomrph on May 17, 2021, 11:14:17 AM
Again, no one said anything about a conspiracy between Gorman and Burke.
Neither did SM. He's saying if manipulating Gorman was ever a goal, that would've been a great time to try to throw him under the bus to save himself.

I always thought it was obvious Gorman's inexperience was there to showcase the USCM's blasé attitude and that nobody takes Ripley seriously. The organization is arrogant and dismissive from the top down.

Burke is not some puppet master pulling the strings behind a veiled curtain. He's a slimy opportunist looking to make a quick buck.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Xenomrph on May 17, 2021, 08:54:18 PM
Quote from: SiL on May 17, 2021, 08:32:11 PM
Quote from: Xenomrph on May 17, 2021, 11:14:17 AM
Again, no one said anything about a conspiracy between Gorman and Burke.
Neither did SM.
Yes he did, he said it twice.

Quote from: SM on May 17, 2021, 07:02:40 AMor having some conspiracy with Gorman.
You can't have a conspiracy with someone who doesn't know they're part of the conspiracy.

Quote from: SiL on May 17, 2021, 08:32:11 PM
Burke is not some puppet master pulling the strings behind a veiled curtain. He's a slimy opportunist looking to make a quick buck.
I don't think those need to be mutually exclusive. He created the opportunity to make his job easier by putting Gorman in charge, which would be a sweet ace up his sleeve if he needed it or had the chance to use it.

I'd never considered the angle of Gorman's placement being USCM arrogance, but I still don't agree with it in this case. It feels too coincidental given Burke's motives, a more seasoned commander would have shut Burke down immediately (as Hicks does).
Like I said, it always came across to me that Gorman's placement was deliberate.

Burke doesn't need to be Keyser Soze with wheels within wheels of elaborate machinations, but by being an opportunist he could recognize tools at his disposal (such as available WY leverage towards the USCM) to make his job easier. Plopping a rookie lieutenant in charge of a mission he thinks he can railroad if it came down to it could be one of them.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: BlueMarsalis79 on May 17, 2021, 09:09:25 PM
I do not see how whether or not Burke or someone he spoke to above that, perhaps putting pressure on the USCM to not take the mission seriously, makes him any more manipulative than already implied.

If he did I do not see the potential to throw Gorman under the bus anyway, because Gorman's likely as much in the dark as the rest of the Marines, and the Bishop android as USCM property also.

In fact I find the idea Burke spoke to someone above him, and that person arranged things so whilst not directly interfering, and risking putting their name on trial they did make it more likely Burke might have the final say through simple deference fairly plausible.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: SM on May 17, 2021, 09:32:22 PM
Quote from: judge death on May 17, 2021, 05:47:00 PM
lol some week after people saying they are fine with canon changing and changing what we knew, now when its shown Weyland yutani cofinanced the colonial marines and ina  way owns them and changing it: same people now complain over it xD
Well its canon now no matter what we think about it.

What?


Quote from: The Cruentus on May 17, 2021, 11:14:46 AM
Yeah I didn't particularly like that part where it makes Gorman an accessory so to speak. It also doesn't make sense for the rest of the story. If Burke told Gorman about the Aliens, then the marines shouldn't have been as skepitcal as they were in the beginning.

Also SM, you may need to clear your messages. I couldn't send a message to you. :laugh:

Oh - is 508 messages too many?
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: [cancerblack] on May 17, 2021, 09:36:39 PM
Quote from: SM on May 17, 2021, 09:32:22 PM
Quote from: judge death on May 17, 2021, 05:47:00 PM
lol some week after people saying they are fine with canon changing and changing what we knew, now when its shown Weyland yutani cofinanced the colonial marines and ina  way owns them and changing it: same people now complain over it xD
Well its canon now no matter what we think about it.

What?

I believe this was supposed to be a "gotcha"
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: SM on May 17, 2021, 09:51:14 PM
Quote from: [cancerblack] on May 17, 2021, 09:36:39 PM
Quote from: SM on May 17, 2021, 09:32:22 PM
Quote from: judge death on May 17, 2021, 05:47:00 PM
lol some week after people saying they are fine with canon changing and changing what we knew, now when its shown Weyland yutani cofinanced the colonial marines and ina  way owns them and changing it: same people now complain over it xD
Well its canon now no matter what we think about it.

What?

I believe this was supposed to be a "gotcha"

Yeah I figured - though I'm not sure what's being got.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: BlueMarsalis79 on May 17, 2021, 09:52:12 PM
Yeah I think this might have garnered an initial overreaction, it's still a far cry from the endlessly moustache twirling, gyrocopter escaping on depiction we see in Resistance, and Rescue and also AVP 2010.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Xenomrph on May 17, 2021, 10:02:02 PM
Quote from: Trash Queen on May 17, 2021, 09:52:12 PM
Yeah I think this might have garnered an initial overreaction, it's still a far cry from the endlessly moustache twirling, gyrocopter escaping on depiction we see in Resistance, and Rescue and also AVP 2010.
And the Colonial Marines videogame if I remember right.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: BlueMarsalis79 on May 17, 2021, 10:18:15 PM
I try to forget that exists but yes, that's by far as bad as it gets, it's a good thing we got Alien Isolation soon after.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: SiL on May 17, 2021, 10:23:53 PM
Quote from: Xenomrph on May 17, 2021, 08:54:18 PM
I don't think those need to be mutually exclusive. He created the opportunity to make his job easier by putting Gorman in charge,
Where are you getting this from?

You've never explained that to begin with. There's nothing in the film saying Burke is spearheading anything. I need to start by assuming you're right, to accept the proof that you're right.

The whole theme of the Marines is their arrogance being their undoing. Sending an inexperienced leader on a mission no one takes seriously is exactly in line with that characterisation. We don't need Burke pulling strings for Gorman to make sense.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Xenomrph on May 17, 2021, 10:58:45 PM
The evidence is the reading that Gorman's placement isn't a coincidence, because Burke's plan falls apart if it is (as evidenced by how quickly Hicks shuts him down).

Likewise, Burke's apparent control (to a point) over Bishop is further evidence that he (and by proxy, WY) is able to exert control over the USCM, otherwise you'd expect Bishop to shut Burke down too if Burke's requests violate quarantine procedures.

Side note, Ripley's "smuggle the embryos, sabotage the cryotubes" theory is pretty much fabricated out of thin air - perhaps he intended to fully disclose that Ripley and Newt had aliens inside them and would let WY hold them in quarantine until they can do something about it.
Parker suggests the same thing in the first movie with Kane ("Why don't they freeze him?"), implying that merely freezing him is an acceptable way of getting the obvious facehugger through quarantine.
Burke obviously planned to openly transport the facehuggers and thought he could get away with it, he tells Bishop to do it. Face hugging Ripley is a (f**ked up) way to keep her from objecting.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: SiL on May 17, 2021, 11:05:14 PM
Once again starting from the supposition that Burke is in charge of anything.

If Burke's not in charge his "plan" is irrelevant.

Nobody takes it seriously and they send a green leader on what's expected to be a nothing mission is not only valid, it makes no assumptions beyond what's in the film.

He's not shown to have any control over Bishop. He makes a request Bishop seems to have no grounds to ignore, as per what Local said. It's not like Bishop tried to hide the order; he doesn't seem to think there's anything inherently wrong with it. Doesn't speak to any special sway or control.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: SM on May 17, 2021, 11:08:50 PM
If WY finances the USCM why couldn't Burke pull rank over a corporal nuking a multimillion dollar installation?
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: BlueMarsalis79 on May 17, 2021, 11:16:40 PM
He tried to and got met rightly with "Who cares?"
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: [cancerblack] on May 17, 2021, 11:24:33 PM
Quote from: SM on May 17, 2021, 09:51:14 PM
Quote from: [cancerblack] on May 17, 2021, 09:36:39 PM
Quote from: SM on May 17, 2021, 09:32:22 PM
Quote from: judge death on May 17, 2021, 05:47:00 PM
lol some week after people saying they are fine with canon changing and changing what we knew, now when its shown Weyland yutani cofinanced the colonial marines and ina  way owns them and changing it: same people now complain over it xD
Well its canon now no matter what we think about it.

What?

I believe this was supposed to be a "gotcha"

Yeah I figured - though I'm not sure what's being got.

People who embrace the changes made by the prequels, I think.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: BlueMarsalis79 on May 17, 2021, 11:28:54 PM
Aye that sounds about right now
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: SiL on May 17, 2021, 11:36:31 PM
Quote from: Trash Queen on May 17, 2021, 11:16:40 PM
He tried to and got met rightly with "Who cares?"
No he didn't, he got met with "this is under military jurisdiction, you have no authority here". They don't say they don't care he's in charge, they flat out say he's not in charge.

Which is pretty explicitly saying WY has no substantial influence over them.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: SM on May 17, 2021, 11:37:00 PM
Quote from: [cancerblack] on May 17, 2021, 11:24:33 PM
Quote from: SM on May 17, 2021, 09:51:14 PM
Quote from: [cancerblack] on May 17, 2021, 09:36:39 PM
Quote from: SM on May 17, 2021, 09:32:22 PM
Quote from: judge death on May 17, 2021, 05:47:00 PM
lol some week after people saying they are fine with canon changing and changing what we knew, now when its shown Weyland yutani cofinanced the colonial marines and ina  way owns them and changing it: same people now complain over it xD
Well its canon now no matter what we think about it.

What?

I believe this was supposed to be a "gotcha"

Yeah I figured - though I'm not sure what's being got.

People who embrace the changes made by the prequels, I think.

Possibly.  Struggling to think if canon has changed and I've been fine with it in the last week...



Quote from: SiL on May 17, 2021, 11:36:31 PM
Quote from: Trash Queen on May 17, 2021, 11:16:40 PM
He tried to and got met rightly with "Who cares?"
No he didn't, he got met with "this is under military jurisdiction, you have no authority here". They don't say they don't care he's in charge, they flat out say he's not in charge.

Which is pretty explicitly saying WY has no substantial influence over them.

Quite - there was no "Well we pay your salary, and I'll see you hang".

It's like the idiocy of Burke having to smuggle the Aliens through quarantine. "Hehe I'm so clever smuggling dangerous organisms past a quarantine body that my employers pay for."

See also "Hehe we pay for the marines, but we're going to spend our own money on our own soldiers to go to Fiorina".
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: BlueMarsalis79 on May 17, 2021, 11:40:26 PM
But I never said it is not under military jurisdiction.

And that does not mean Weyland Yutani's got no influence whatsoever over the situation.

Just not in any on the record capacity.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: SiL on May 17, 2021, 11:44:27 PM
You said he was met with "who cares" when he tried to assert authority, which is blatantly false. He was told he had none.

Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: BlueMarsalis79 on May 17, 2021, 11:49:20 PM
It's not blatantly false, it's blatantly true and Ripley's response signifies that, but you're right in that the statement that it's under military jurisdiction's also made.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Xenomrph on May 17, 2021, 11:56:26 PM
Quote from: SiL on May 17, 2021, 11:36:31 PM
Quote from: Trash Queen on May 17, 2021, 11:16:40 PM
He tried to and got met rightly with "Who cares?"
No he didn't, he got met with "this is under military jurisdiction, you have no authority here". They don't say they don't care he's in charge, they flat out say he's not in charge.

Which is pretty explicitly saying WY has no substantial influence over them.
To be fair, it's not like the RPG says WY owns the military like SM is claiming. He's literally complaining about things the RPG doesn't say. :P

Merely that, as co-financiers (in an undisclosed capacity), WY can call in favors (in an undisclosed capacity). I suspect that capacity is intentionally left up to the discretion of the GM.


Quote from: SM on May 17, 2021, 11:37:00 PM

It's like the idiocy of Burke having to smuggle the Aliens through quarantine. "Hehe I'm so clever smuggling dangerous organisms past a quarantine body that my employers pay for."

See also "Hehe we pay for the marines, but we're going to spend our own money on our own soldiers to go to Fiorina".
1. We don't know that Burke actually intended to covertly smuggle anything, that was Ripley's theory. He obviously intended Bishop transport the facehuggers in plain sight.

2. By that logic, why didn't Burke use their PMCs for Hadley's Hope?
Marines leave a paper trail, they clearly didn't want that with Fury 161.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: SiL on May 18, 2021, 12:11:46 AM
Quote from: Trash Queen on May 17, 2021, 11:49:20 PM
It's not blatantly false, it's blatantly true and Ripley's response signifies that, but you're right in that the statement that it's under military jurisdiction's also made.
Nobody says who cares. Nobody for a moment takes Burke's direction seriously. He has no authority in the situation at all, which is the whole point of saying it's under military jurisdiction - it's explicitly establishing a line between WY's authority and the military's.


Quote from: Xenomrph on May 17, 2021, 11:56:26 PM
2. By that logic, why didn't Burke use their PMCs for Hadley's Hope?
Marines leave a paper trail, they clearly didn't want that with Fury 161.
You're the one saying Burke was in charge and stacking the deck, you tell us :-\ Why wouldn't he use PMCs instead of he was calling all the shots?
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: BlueMarsalis79 on May 18, 2021, 12:28:08 AM
They pretty much do they all but say so outright they don't care what he thinks, whether he's actually got tangible authority in any official or unofficial capacity or not, being my main point as I already mentioned the statement regarding military jurisdiction beforehand.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Xenomrph on May 18, 2021, 12:34:06 AM
Quote from: SiL on May 18, 2021, 12:11:46 AM
Quote from: Xenomrph on May 17, 2021, 11:56:26 PM
2. By that logic, why didn't Burke use their PMCs for Hadley's Hope?
Marines leave a paper trail, they clearly didn't want that with Fury 161.
You're the one saying Burke was in charge and stacking the deck, you tell us :-\ Why wouldn't he use PMCs instead of he was calling all the shots?
That's the point, they have access to PMCs and warships in the third movie but don't use them in the second.
Why don't they use them in the second? Because their control isn't absolute when other parties are involved. Why do they use them in the third? Because they did have control, and marines leave a paper trail. The point is there's an explanation for why they wouldn't use Marines even if WY could use them with impunity (and the RPG doesn't say they can).
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: SiL on May 18, 2021, 12:41:14 AM
Quote from: Trash Queen on May 18, 2021, 12:28:08 AM
They pretty much do they all but say so outright they don't care what he thinks, whether he's actually got tangible authority in any official or unofficial capacity or not, being my main point as I already mentioned the statement regarding military jurisdiction beforehand.
They don't care what he thinks because he has no authority, not in spite of whether he does or not. He tried to act like he had the authority to authorize nuking the site and they put him in his place. The film is pretty clear - WY is not in control of the situation.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: BlueMarsalis79 on May 18, 2021, 12:42:48 AM
I never said as much though.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Xenomrph on May 18, 2021, 01:33:37 AM
For those interested, both the CMTM (pages 144 and 146) and WYR (page 86) say the Company had leverage over the USCM and either imply or flat out state that Burke picked Gorman on purpose.

Granted this isn't the movie, the point is that it's not like the RPG pioneered the idea.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: BlueMarsalis79 on May 18, 2021, 01:40:04 AM
TY Xeno.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Local Trouble on May 18, 2021, 02:49:20 AM
Quote from: Local Trouble on Sep 08, 2014, 08:45:20 PM
If I were writing the bio for Gorman, I'd say his daddy was a moderately powerful exec at the company, but generally regarded by the corps as a dickhead with a silver spoon (and a corncob) up his ass.  Burke then pulled some strings with a USCM colonel that was in the company's pocket and got him assigned to the mission as a favor to Gorman Sr.

Yeah, I read a lot into Burke's line: "You had your chance, Gorman!"
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: SiL on May 18, 2021, 04:06:37 AM
Gorman conspiracies getting you down?

Keep them in check using Occam Brand Razors!

Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Xenomrph on May 18, 2021, 04:15:30 AM
That's a good line  ;D
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: kwisatz on May 18, 2021, 01:04:13 PM
Quote from: Local Trouble on May 18, 2021, 02:49:20 AM
Quote from: Local Trouble on Sep 08, 2014, 08:45:20 PM
At least we know with certainty who's pulling the strings on this forum
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: SM on May 18, 2021, 08:51:28 PM
He's reprogramming Bishop for Consensus Mode (TM) as we speak.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: kwisatz on May 18, 2021, 11:13:41 PM
Quote from: SM on May 17, 2021, 11:37:00 PM
Hehe

Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Local Trouble on May 18, 2021, 11:57:14 PM
Quote from: Local Trouble on Feb 24, 2014, 06:54:42 PMIt wouldn't surprise me if Burke managed to pull strings with some dirty marine colonel over coke and hookers to get Gorman assigned to the mission.

Worth quoting to include the coke and hookers in the scenario.

That said, I wouldn't just assert that such a thing actually did happen.  It's just speculation.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: kwisatz on May 19, 2021, 12:50:23 AM
Gorman being a bit of a cliché is also simply the result of Cameron's so-so writing style.

A guy like that in charge of such an expensefull military operation naturally triggers all kinds of conspiracy theories if a realistic way of looking at things is applied (which is more or less the case when fans discuss their fan stuff).

It's highly unlikely the USCM isn't testing their command personnel in stress situations. It's all just a bit too conveniently written.

Think I always had a bit of a gripe with that scene. Up to it Aliens is excellent slow burn and then Gorman losing it like that at literally the first opportunity not even really trying to handle things - yeah always felt a bit too film cliché for me, even for Cameron.

In the end it's just a detail though.

Or maybe I'm overall exaggerating things and the Sulaco is just the equivalent of sending one tank and three grunts, in which case who cares not the USCM, dunno --
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: SM on May 19, 2021, 01:56:24 AM
I do like that Gorman actually has something approaching development.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: kwisatz on May 19, 2021, 02:31:18 AM
Yeah, and I'm not even trying to say Cameron's a bad writer or anything. He actually reminds me quite a bit of GRRM.

It's just that balanced secondary characters don't seem to be too high on his priority list when fabricating a story.

The rest's just taste anyway.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: TNF on May 19, 2021, 03:29:34 PM
Quote from: SM on May 19, 2021, 01:56:24 AM
I do like that Gorman actually has something approaching development.
Yeah, he's not getting off "Scott-free"...
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Local Trouble on May 19, 2021, 03:53:29 PM
Quote from: kwisatz on May 19, 2021, 12:50:23 AM
It's highly unlikely the USCM isn't testing their command personnel in stress situations.

I'm guessing that's what his 38 simulated drops were for.  If his first combat drop went smooth and by the numbers, it probably only served to inflate his ego.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: kwisatz on May 19, 2021, 06:05:07 PM
One really needs to question the quality and structure of those simulated "combat" drops though when in reality the trained subject mentally disintegrates entirely at the very first possibility of defeat. Gorman doesn't really strike me as someone who's experienced such a situation ever before (and it's the future; bet they can make these training sessions feel like the real deal). Like not even once.

Oh well, USCM probably should've included one or two Kobayashi-Maru-Test type scenarios in those simulations.  8)






c) Gorman slept his way up.

Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: SM on May 19, 2021, 09:10:39 PM
Quote from: TNF on May 19, 2021, 03:29:34 PM
Quote from: SM on May 19, 2021, 01:56:24 AM
I do like that Gorman actually has something approaching development.
Yeah, he's not getting off "Scott-free"...

Booyah
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Protomorph on May 20, 2021, 12:56:36 PM
I've not seen these RPG's. Do you need a minimum amount of players to play it? If so i'll not be able to play it easily.

Is it worth getting for the books alone or will that serve no purpose?
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Xenomrph on May 20, 2021, 01:48:50 PM
They're definitely worth buying even if you don't intend to play.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: judge death on May 20, 2021, 05:12:11 PM
I would say you need to find at least 2 others who want to play with you and 1 person as a gm so 4 in total for a decent experience. Not something you can play alone. I tried to start a group here who would play this rp online but no interest so gave up on it.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Kailem on May 23, 2021, 03:50:51 PM
Just got my pre-order artbook PDF, so keep an eye on your inboxes as those are being sent out now.

Some really great art in there. I've actually not spent much time at all reading through the Operations Manual, but I'm wondering if the tenth image might be a spoiler for the marine campaign (which I'm not going to read regardless). But either way it sure looks cool!
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Xiggz456 on May 23, 2021, 07:55:22 PM
Nice thanks for the head up! About 50 pages deep into the Operations Manual and the History section is fascinating and full of EU references!
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: BlazinBlueReview on Jun 01, 2021, 07:35:29 PM
Looking into this. Wishing to get this but again no one round here to play with.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: judge death on Jun 01, 2021, 08:03:10 PM
Im volountaring :P
An option is to join the text rp we have going on the official discord for it :)
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Jun 02, 2021, 02:05:57 PM
It's easy to play online too.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: BlazinBlueReview on Jun 03, 2021, 07:49:44 AM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jun 02, 2021, 02:05:57 PM
It's easy to play online too.

That's something I'm starting to look into. Especially cause I can't play Hunting Grounds any more cause had to switch to satellite internet only.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Jun 03, 2021, 10:50:09 AM
Just have to try to find a playgroup. It's all mostly Skype and maybe Roll20 so not much bandwidth needed.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Xiggz456 on Jun 06, 2021, 01:14:03 AM
Just got to the vehicle section

Spoiler
It includes both Kenner vehicles the Stinger and the Hovertread. The latter now being a Seegson designed vehicle  :laugh:
[close]

Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Xiggz456 on Jun 07, 2021, 05:54:05 PM
So the main campaign follows up on the  "Destroyer of Worlds" scenario which is neat!

What's interesting is that so much of the lore from Gibson's A3 adaptations are present here. Including the UPP's version of a dropship which the book mentions was "coincidentally" the same design as the Cheyenne dropship lol. Also, something went down on Anchorpoint that was very similar to the script as both anchorpoint and a UPP station had contaminant issues which led to their demise.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Local Trouble on Jun 07, 2021, 09:40:08 PM
Quote from: Xiggz456 on Jun 07, 2021, 05:54:05 PMIncluding the UPP's version of a dropship which the book mentions was "coincidentally" the same design as the Cheyenne dropship lol.

Awful.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: SM on Jun 07, 2021, 11:11:19 PM
Haven't read this yet, but also sounds a little lazy.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: SiL on Jun 08, 2021, 12:33:48 AM
Sounds like there are lots of elements in there and he's prioritising where to spend his energy.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Xenomrph on Jun 08, 2021, 03:03:24 AM
Quote from: SM on Jun 07, 2021, 11:11:19 PM
Haven't read this yet, but also sounds a little lazy.
What should he have done instead?


Quote from: SiL on Jun 08, 2021, 12:33:48 AM
Sounds like there are lots of elements in there and he's prioritising where to spend his energy.
Seems sensible to me.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: SiL on Jun 08, 2021, 06:24:55 AM
I imagine the three people who will ever care about that detail are in this thread, and anyone else who may think it's weird can just ... make that not the case, since they're in charge.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Jun 08, 2021, 07:45:31 AM
That's just a callback to the odd Fox decision with the Dark Horse comic adaptation that we all rolled our eyes at. Made me chuckle.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: SiL on Jun 08, 2021, 09:13:30 AM
So more of a joke?
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: SM on Jun 08, 2021, 09:16:25 AM
I'm finding a bit of that.

Quote from: SiL on Jun 08, 2021, 06:24:55 AM
I imagine the three people who will ever care about that detail are in this thread, and anyone else who may think it's weird can just ... make that not the case, since they're in charge.

What do you mean by th-



Oh yes...

I'll just be going now...
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Jun 08, 2021, 09:46:08 AM
Quote from: SiL on Jun 08, 2021, 09:13:30 AM
So more of a joke?

Definitely a joke at the expense of the daft decision. But it's what Fox wanted the UPP dropship to look like in the comic, so it's what it looks like in the RPG I suppose.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: BlueMarsalis79 on Jun 08, 2021, 10:20:08 AM
With words you have wiggle room, in that way that prose's better than the appearance of it that we got, because being of the one design does not necessarily mean completely identical.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Xiggz456 on Jun 08, 2021, 12:00:10 PM
Definitely an inside joke. Fortunately there's several other original UPP aerospace vehicles included as well.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: The Eighth Passenger on Jun 08, 2021, 04:35:16 PM
Quote from: Local Trouble on Jun 07, 2021, 09:40:08 PM
Quote from: Xiggz456 on Jun 07, 2021, 05:54:05 PMIncluding the UPP's version of a dropship which the book mentions was "coincidentally" the same design as the Cheyenne dropship lol.

Awful.

Is the Soviet Mig-28 not also identical to the USAF F-5?
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: judge death on Jun 08, 2021, 07:21:43 PM
Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on Jun 08, 2021, 04:35:16 PM
Quote from: Local Trouble on Jun 07, 2021, 09:40:08 PM
Quote from: Xiggz456 on Jun 07, 2021, 05:54:05 PMIncluding the UPP's version of a dropship which the book mentions was "coincidentally" the same design as the Cheyenne dropship lol.

Awful.

Is the Soviet Mig-28 not also identical to the USAF F-5?
Was going to say this, as UPP is basicly soviet union and in real life soviet copied several designs from usa and the west, slight changes like engines was max they did. The B-29 copy and the space shuttle copies comes to mind.

And well this book is the lore canon so UPP has the cheyenne dropship but different name is now canon no matter what we say or think now.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Xiggz456 on Jun 09, 2021, 05:10:48 PM
Some interesting tidbits regarding Arcturians

Spoiler
They share 99.99961% of the same dna as humans and have huge Nazca-esque lines depicting very Engineer like imagery. And there's a really cool page of art that depicts this!
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Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Xenomrph on Jun 09, 2021, 05:50:28 PM
Re the UPP dropship looking like the Cheyenne dropship, I'll just leave this here:

(https://www.buran.fr/bourane-buran/img/STS-Buran-grand.jpg)
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: judge death on Jun 09, 2021, 07:16:16 PM
Already mentioned it ;)
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Local Trouble on Jun 09, 2021, 08:54:10 PM
Still awful.

I want my space Hind.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Xenomrph on Jun 10, 2021, 05:58:54 PM
Quote from: Local Trouble on Jun 09, 2021, 08:54:10 PM
Still awful.

I want my space Hind.
Good news, they have one called the Krokodil that's specifically meant to be a space Hind.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Xiggz456 on Jun 15, 2021, 01:04:42 PM
Really digging the "Destroying Angels" references! Gaska continues to do a great job of weaving the old lore into something that fits with the current continuity.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Xenomrph on Jun 15, 2021, 05:24:41 PM
Quote from: Local Trouble on Jun 09, 2021, 08:54:10 PM
Still awful.

I want my space Hind.
Any thoughts since you got your space Hind?
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Local Trouble on Jun 18, 2021, 02:24:49 AM
Quote from: Xenomrph on Jun 15, 2021, 05:24:41 PM
Quote from: Local Trouble on Jun 09, 2021, 08:54:10 PM
Still awful.

I want my space Hind.

Any thoughts since you got your space Hind?

Are there pics?
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Xenomrph on Jun 19, 2021, 12:07:00 AM
Quote from: Local Trouble on Jun 18, 2021, 02:24:49 AM
Quote from: Xenomrph on Jun 15, 2021, 05:24:41 PM
Quote from: Local Trouble on Jun 09, 2021, 08:54:10 PM
Still awful.

I want my space Hind.

Any thoughts since you got your space Hind?

Are there pics?

(https://i.imgur.com/nQ3Zkvp.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/YjJCLyY.png)
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Local Trouble on Jun 19, 2021, 08:10:05 PM
Not sure about those wings, but I like the rest of the design.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Xiggz456 on Jun 24, 2021, 05:34:23 PM
Just finished reading through this pretty massive expansion. In regards to the story framework that sets up the scenarios, I really enjoyed the overall "Frontier War" story that's presented. I look forward to hearing the thoughts once folks start playing through these scenarios.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: BlueMarsalis79 on Jun 25, 2021, 12:22:15 PM
Doesn't sound as interesting to me this time as the initial corebook to me.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Xiggz456 on Jun 25, 2021, 01:00:21 PM
It's still quite interesting but it absolutely builds on from the core book. As long as they keep releasing expansions, I'll keep reading them for the sake of feeding my lore addiction lol.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: judge death on Jul 13, 2021, 08:44:52 PM
Got a message saying my colonial marines manual book is sent and on the way :D
Hmm I wonder if I can get a updated pdf now as they said they might change and fix typos and other stuff by the time they send out the physical book?
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Jul 14, 2021, 12:11:30 PM
I look on in jealousy.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Darwinsgirl on Jul 14, 2021, 12:42:28 PM

Quote from: judge death on Jul 13, 2021, 08:44:52 PM
Got a message saying my colonial marines manual book is sent and on the way :D
Hmm I wonder if I can get a updated pdf now as they said they might change and fix typos and other stuff by the time they send out the physical book?

In earlier printed books known as an erratum. A printed sheet tipped in to later printings or if errors were discovered after printing but before released. A pdf is a better way if errors are known. That way anyone (hopefully) would have access to it. 8)

That might make for a nice related topic to the literature section. Book or film errors.  ;)
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Jul 23, 2021, 02:52:13 PM
Received my shipping notice for the Marine Ops Manual.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Kailem on Jul 23, 2021, 04:00:41 PM
All this Fireteam Elite talk has finally gotten me to start properly reading through the pdf copy, so fingers crossed if they're starting to ship to the UK I might get my notification soon too!
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: judge death on Jul 23, 2021, 05:45:03 PM
Got mine 3 days ago, and if you wonder why I purchased the starter kit when I have the core rulebook already: I like to support the project fully and have all books :P

(https://images-wixmp-ed30a86b8c4ca887773594c2.wixmp.com/f/7d6993df-3d77-4fbb-878f-4afdb136d515/denur81-42efa626-fc3e-4a48-b47e-0f07ebdeda1c.jpg/v1/fill/w_1032,h_774,q_70,strp/04be9502_efdd_4731_b7ee_1924b3ec113e_by_warrior1944_denur81-pre.jpg?token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJzdWIiOiJ1cm46YXBwOjdlMGQxODg5ODIyNjQzNzNhNWYwZDQxNWVhMGQyNmUwIiwiaXNzIjoidXJuOmFwcDo3ZTBkMTg4OTgyMjY0MzczYTVmMGQ0MTVlYTBkMjZlMCIsIm9iaiI6W1t7ImhlaWdodCI6Ijw9OTYwIiwicGF0aCI6IlwvZlwvN2Q2OTkzZGYtM2Q3Ny00ZmJiLTg3OGYtNGFmZGIxMzZkNTE1XC9kZW51cjgxLTQyZWZhNjI2LWZjM2UtNGE0OC1iNDdlLTBmMDdlYmRlZGExYy5qcGciLCJ3aWR0aCI6Ijw9MTI4MCJ9XV0sImF1ZCI6WyJ1cm46c2VydmljZTppbWFnZS5vcGVyYXRpb25zIl19.NXdqWyGNBEZpvG1Y69Zr9zJ8zumVrj7yZ58KLJSbgXc)
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: BlueMarsalis79 on Jul 23, 2021, 05:49:06 PM
Mmm... Cola
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Kailem on Jul 23, 2021, 07:18:38 PM
Quote from: judge death on Jul 23, 2021, 05:45:03 PM
Got mine 3 days ago, and if you wonder why I purchased the starter kit when I have the core rulebook already: I like to support the project fully and have all books :P

I got the starter set along with the core rules as well. Even if you've already got the latter, the starter set still has a bunch of stuff that makes it worthwhile, like the custom dice, physical map, cards and Chariot of the Gods scenario etc.

Plus it's honestly just handy sometimes to have two copies of the rules laying around for reference when you're playing the game.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: BlueMarsalis79 on Jul 23, 2021, 09:02:46 PM
That's true.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Kailem on Jul 24, 2021, 12:29:47 PM
Yay, got my shipping notification for the Colonial Marines Operations Manual too! With any luck it should be here early next week!
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Kailem on Jul 26, 2021, 04:50:05 PM
Got my hardcover copy today! I'm still reading through it in PDF format because it's just easier, but glad to have the book in my hands at last!
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: judge death on Jul 26, 2021, 06:50:48 PM
Quote from: Kailem on Jul 26, 2021, 04:50:05 PM
Got my hardcover copy today! I'm still reading through it in PDF format because it's just easier, but glad to have the book in my hands at last!
Well it saves the books back/spine by reading the pdf rather than the book itself.
I havent had the time yet to read any of the books 100%, will do somedya when I have the time...
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Xenomrph on Jul 27, 2021, 04:38:51 AM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jul 23, 2021, 02:52:13 PM
Received my shipping notice for the Marine Ops Manual.
Still waiting on mine. :(
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Jul 27, 2021, 07:41:09 AM
Mine arrived at the weekend but haven't had a chance to dig in! Decided to start re-reading Starship Troopers before it arrived, but once I've finished I can't wait to dig in!  ;D
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Bughuntwilson on Jul 27, 2021, 06:09:15 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jul 27, 2021, 07:41:09 AM
Mine arrived at the weekend but haven't had a chance to dig in! Decided to start re-reading Starship Troopers before it arrived, but once I've finished I can't wait to dig in!  ;D

Hope we get a proper adaption of starship troopers one day
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Xiggz456 on Aug 05, 2021, 10:17:38 AM
Got my physical copy yesterday! I wonder how many more expansions they're going to release.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Aug 05, 2021, 11:30:52 AM
One for each career type at least, I believe.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Kailem on Aug 06, 2021, 12:40:36 PM
One expansion I was thinking about recently that I'd like to see at some point is a source book for all the different Alien variations we've seen throughout the comics, games, figures etc. There are so many out there beyond the ones we've seen in the movies - which mostly all have stats now between the current releases - that it'd be great to get some (and a bit more lore and artwork) for things like the Bull Alien or the King or the Queen Face Hugger.

The only downside could be that they might not be able to include the Predalien or things like the Carrier or Ravager and others that appeared in an AVP context. So that wouldn't be too great. But regardless, if it was as comprehensive as possible it would still be a really cool expansion to have, both from a gaming and a lore standpoint.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Bughuntwilson on Aug 07, 2021, 12:31:34 AM
Quote from: Kailem on Aug 06, 2021, 12:40:36 PM
One expansion I was thinking about recently that I'd like to see at some point is a source book for all the different Alien variations we've seen throughout the comics, games, figures etc. There are so many out there beyond the ones we've seen in the movies - which mostly all have stats now between the current releases - that it'd be great to get some (and a bit more lore and artwork) for things like the Bull Alien or the King or the Queen Face Hugger.

The only downside could be that they might not be able to include the Predalien or things like the Carrier or Ravager and others that appeared in an AVP context. So that wouldn't be too great. But regardless, if it was as comprehensive as possible it would still be a really cool expansion to have, both from a gaming and a lore standpoint.

This right here somebody show this to gaska though it already probably a given he loves the Kenner toys
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: BlueMarsalis79 on Sep 10, 2021, 12:28:16 PM
Glad to see the stuff in this making its way into other Alien media.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Kailem on Sep 13, 2021, 03:23:34 PM
Yeah I love how much stuff from the RPG has shown up in Fireteam Elite (too much, in some cases!), and even a couple of nods to Fireteam in the Colonial Marines Operations Manual. It really helps give a sense of a cohesive, interconnected Alien universe with its own lore and events outside of just the movies, and that's super cool.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Xenomrph on Sep 18, 2021, 02:51:44 PM
Quote from: Kailem on Aug 06, 2021, 12:40:36 PM
One expansion I was thinking about recently that I'd like to see at some point...
I keep trying to get Gaska to write an Alien RPG: Feline Survival Guide, a supplement for running cats as NPCs and player characters.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Xiggz456 on Sep 19, 2021, 04:35:33 PM
Quote from: Kailem on Sep 13, 2021, 03:23:34 PM
Yeah I love how much stuff from the RPG has shown up in Fireteam Elite (too much, in some cases!), and even a couple of nods to Fireteam in the Colonial Marines Operations Manual. It really helps give a sense of a cohesive, interconnected Alien universe with its own lore and events outside of just the movies, and that's super cool.

Ya I was surprised that they mentioned General Vaughn and her role in the frontier war considering how recently the Operations Manual came out. But I'm with you on this giving us that interconnected universe feel.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Sep 21, 2021, 11:26:35 AM
The RPG took home a few awards at the Ennies.

BEST PRODUCTION VALUES
ALIEN RPG Destroyer of Worlds - GOLD

BEST CARTOGRAPHY:
ALIEN RPG Destroyer of Worlds - SILVER

BEST ADVENTURE:
ALIEN RPG Destroyer of Worlds - SILVER

Free League over all took 8, including Fan Fav Publisher.

https://mailchi.mp/6d3741ad677e/free-league-wins-eight-ennie-awards-including-fan-favorite-publisher?e=8becb4d032
Title: Alien: Heart of Darkness Announced
Post by: Garethmb on Jan 25, 2022, 04:12:05 PM
The RPG is getting a new expansion.

Details and image below.

https://sknr.net/2022/01/25/alien-heart-of-darkness-announced/
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: RidgeTop on Jan 25, 2022, 06:21:52 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FJ9FAZ_WQAE3H2_?format=jpg&name=large)

"We are thrilled to reveal Heart of Darkness, the upcoming new cinematic scenario for our multiple award-winning ALIEN roleplaying game.

ALIEN: Heart of Darkness is a stand-alone adventure, but also serves as a conclusion to the Draconis Strain Saga begun in the cinematic scenario Chariot of the Gods and continued in Destroyer of Worlds, all written by Andrew E.C Gaska. The expansion is designed for 3–5 players plus the Game Mother and is a spiraling descent into soul-crushing madness...

Heart of Darkness will come in a boxed set including a range of maps, cards, handouts, and pre-generated characters. (Please note - the ALIEN RPG Core Rulebook or Starter Set is required to play.)

Heart of Darkness will be offered in a pre-order and PDF pre-release on the official ALIEN RPG website later this winter, for a full physical retail release in the summer."
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Kradan on Jan 25, 2022, 07:26:47 PM
Is this ... a black hole ?

EDIT: Oh shit, it's Deacon's head !
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Nightmare Asylum on Jan 25, 2022, 07:41:05 PM
Excellent. Really loved both Chariot of the Gods and Destroyer of Worlds, so I look forward to this one!
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Kailem on Jan 25, 2022, 07:46:55 PM
It's the Deac.....on!

That's pretty cool, I was under the impression that they weren't able to use him because he was "Ridley stuff." Maybe things have changed under Disney and they're finally allowing them to touch things that were previously untouchable. And if that's the case I wonder if we might one day see a scenario that features the Engineers after all?

Either way, looking forward to this! Both the previous cinematic scenarios were great, so I've got high hopes for this one too.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Jan 25, 2022, 09:13:42 PM
We haven't had the chance to play through the scenario from the CMCB yet, but have thoroughly enjoyed the last 2 cinematic releases, so really looking forward to this one too!

The artwork in the game continues to look fantastic as well!
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Local Trouble on Jan 25, 2022, 11:06:03 PM
How long until the Predator expansion drops?
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Jan 26, 2022, 12:34:41 PM
Officially? Never.

But there's fan-made stats.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Xiggz456 on Jan 26, 2022, 03:07:03 PM
Quote from: RidgeTop on Jan 25, 2022, 06:21:52 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FJ9FAZ_WQAE3H2_?format=jpg&name=large)

"We are thrilled to reveal Heart of Darkness, the upcoming new cinematic scenario for our multiple award-winning ALIEN roleplaying game.

ALIEN: Heart of Darkness is a stand-alone adventure, but also serves as a conclusion to the Draconis Strain Saga begun in the cinematic scenario Chariot of the Gods and continued in Destroyer of Worlds, all written by Andrew E.C Gaska. The expansion is designed for 3–5 players plus the Game Mother and is a spiraling descent into soul-crushing madness...

Heart of Darkness will come in a boxed set including a range of maps, cards, handouts, and pre-generated characters. (Please note - the ALIEN RPG Core Rulebook or Starter Set is required to play.)

Heart of Darkness will be offered in a pre-order and PDF pre-release on the official ALIEN RPG website later this winter, for a full physical retail release in the summer."


Nice! Gaska hasn't disappointed yet! Maybe one day I'll get around to actually playing the game but for now I'm content reading through the playbooks and sucking up that sweet lore lol.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Simply_Kevin on Jan 26, 2022, 05:39:39 PM
Oh that looks sick! I haven't gotten my hands on Destroyer of Worlds yet, but my party has already played through Charriot of the Gods with a sole survivor. Shit seriously hit the fan! Andrew's writting is amazing.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: judge death on Mar 01, 2022, 07:18:11 PM
Any news on when one can preorder Heart of Darkness? :)
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Kailem on Mar 02, 2022, 03:53:57 PM
Not yet, it still doesn't seem to be up on their website.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Mar 10, 2022, 03:19:35 PM
QuoteFree League and Titan Books Announce Creative Partnership for the ALIEN Universe Cohesive Narrative Across Novels and the RPG

Free League Publishing and Titan Books today announced a collaboration to publish a unified storyline set within the ALIEN Universe. For 2022 and into 2023, the editorial and writing teams will share assets and coordinate plotlines to form a cohesive narrative across three original novels and the multiple award-winning ALIEN RPG.

"The ALIEN RPG has established the 'Frontier War,' as remote human colonies come under assault by an unknown enemy, dropping a deadly pathogen that unleashes monsters on those worlds," Titan Acquisitions Editor Steve Saffel said. "At the same time, in the wake of the Titan novel Alien: Into Charybdis, political tensions on Earth reach a boiling point."

These dramatic events play out in the recently released ALIEN RPG: Colonial Marines Operations Manual by Free League and three upcoming trade paperback novels by Titan Books, each independent but all set against a dramatic galactic backdrop:

Alien: Colony War by David Barnett  (April 2022)
Alien: Inferno's Fall by Phillipa Ballantine and Clara Carija (July 2022)
Alien: Enemy of My Enemy by Mary SanGiovanni (February 2023)

The results will set the stage for further developments within the ALIEN Universe, as depicted in the roleplaying game and original fiction.

Find out more about the novel Alien: Colony War here.

To further establish the connection between the game and the novels, the ALIEN RPG lead setting writer Andrew E.C. Gaska will develop three unique RPG scenarios which will appear as bonus features in the books, one per novel. The first such scenario, Fallout, is included in Alien: Colony War. Readers intrigued by these adventures will have the opportunity to further explore the RPG experience.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Bughuntwilson on Mar 10, 2022, 05:15:15 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Mar 10, 2022, 03:19:35 PM
QuoteFree League and Titan Books Announce Creative Partnership for the ALIEN Universe Cohesive Narrative Across Novels and the RPG

Free League Publishing and Titan Books today announced a collaboration to publish a unified storyline set within the ALIEN Universe. For 2022 and into 2023, the editorial and writing teams will share assets and coordinate plotlines to form a cohesive narrative across three original novels and the multiple award-winning ALIEN RPG.

"The ALIEN RPG has established the 'Frontier War,' as remote human colonies come under assault by an unknown enemy, dropping a deadly pathogen that unleashes monsters on those worlds," Titan Acquisitions Editor Steve Saffel said. "At the same time, in the wake of the Titan novel Alien: Into Charybdis, political tensions on Earth reach a boiling point."

These dramatic events play out in the recently released ALIEN RPG: Colonial Marines Operations Manual by Free League and three upcoming trade paperback novels by Titan Books, each independent but all set against a dramatic galactic backdrop:

Alien: Colony War by David Barnett  (April 2022)
Alien: Inferno's Fall by Phillipa Ballantine and Clara Carija (July 2022)
Alien: Enemy of My Enemy by Mary SanGiovanni (February 2023)

The results will set the stage for further developments within the ALIEN Universe, as depicted in the roleplaying game and original fiction.

Find out more about the novel Alien: Colony War here.

To further establish the connection between the game and the novels, the ALIEN RPG lead setting writer Andrew E.C. Gaska will develop three unique RPG scenarios which will appear as bonus features in the books, one per novel. The first such scenario, Fallout, is included in Alien: Colony War. Readers intrigued by these adventures will have the opportunity to further explore the RPG experience.
About time you think general vaguh from cmom will show up is some way shes proably one of my favorite npc in it
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Still Collating... on Mar 10, 2022, 07:02:48 PM
Well this is great news! I love what they're doing with the RPG.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Kailem on Mar 10, 2022, 08:16:33 PM
Honestly I think this is super freaking cool.

I love the work that RPG has done to create a cohesive Alien universe, and the fact that more and more parts of the EU are actively making an effort to connect to one another like this is awesome.

I know with other EUs (Star Wars) it can start to get silly wondering whether or not some mobile phone game is considered "canon" or whatever, but this feels like the first time Alien has truly tried to bring everything together in the same sort of way, and I'm totally down with that (so much so that one of my biggest fears with the TV show is that it's going to come along and mess everything up on that front! :laugh:).
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Bughuntwilson on Mar 10, 2022, 09:52:29 PM
Quote from: Kailem on Mar 10, 2022, 08:16:33 PM
Honestly I think this is super freaking cool.

I love the work that RPG has done to create a cohesive Alien universe, and the fact that more and more parts of the EU are actively making an effort to connect to one another like this is awesome.

I know with other EUs (Star Wars) it can start to get silly wondering whether or not some mobile phone game is considered "canon" or whatever, but this feels like the first time Alien has truly tried to bring everything together in the same sort of way, and I'm totally down with that (so much so that one of my biggest fears with the TV show is that it's going to come along and mess everything up on that front! :laugh:).
There a reason a moive and a tv show in the same franchise is not made at the same time udally one ends up cancelled
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: BlueMarsalis79 on Mar 10, 2022, 10:34:14 PM
Wow awesome, this rules, and it is all the result of Into Charybdis then deservedly so.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Local Trouble on Mar 10, 2022, 11:35:08 PM
Will SM be involved?
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: BlueMarsalis79 on Mar 11, 2022, 02:00:44 AM
How should I know?
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Local Trouble on Mar 11, 2022, 02:09:15 AM
You have your sources.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Agent Zero on Mar 11, 2022, 05:15:15 AM
No
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Local Trouble on Mar 11, 2022, 06:29:28 AM
 >:(
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Xiggz456 on Mar 11, 2022, 03:17:09 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Mar 10, 2022, 03:19:35 PM
QuoteFree League and Titan Books Announce Creative Partnership for the ALIEN Universe Cohesive Narrative Across Novels and the RPG

Free League Publishing and Titan Books today announced a collaboration to publish a unified storyline set within the ALIEN Universe. For 2022 and into 2023, the editorial and writing teams will share assets and coordinate plotlines to form a cohesive narrative across three original novels and the multiple award-winning ALIEN RPG.

"The ALIEN RPG has established the 'Frontier War,' as remote human colonies come under assault by an unknown enemy, dropping a deadly pathogen that unleashes monsters on those worlds," Titan Acquisitions Editor Steve Saffel said. "At the same time, in the wake of the Titan novel Alien: Into Charybdis, political tensions on Earth reach a boiling point."

These dramatic events play out in the recently released ALIEN RPG: Colonial Marines Operations Manual by Free League and three upcoming trade paperback novels by Titan Books, each independent but all set against a dramatic galactic backdrop:

Alien: Colony War by David Barnett  (April 2022)
Alien: Inferno's Fall by Phillipa Ballantine and Clara Carija (July 2022)
Alien: Enemy of My Enemy by Mary SanGiovanni (February 2023)

The results will set the stage for further developments within the ALIEN Universe, as depicted in the roleplaying game and original fiction.

Find out more about the novel Alien: Colony War here.

To further establish the connection between the game and the novels, the ALIEN RPG lead setting writer Andrew E.C. Gaska will develop three unique RPG scenarios which will appear as bonus features in the books, one per novel. The first such scenario, Fallout, is included in Alien: Colony War. Readers intrigued by these adventures will have the opportunity to further explore the RPG experience.

Fantastic news! Loving the collaborative storytelling going on here. And after reading the stellar AVP sequel to Phalanx I'm gonna need some Preds added to the mix!
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Kailem on Mar 11, 2022, 06:01:54 PM
For real, they need to do another Q&A livestream already so someone can ask Andrew Gaska when they're adding Predators again! :laugh:
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: judge death on Mar 13, 2022, 01:12:03 AM
This is great news!
The RPG is excellent with its lore, tying in dark horse comics and books and make it all fit nicely, and now with Titan books involved and using the same lore: Awesome!
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Mar 15, 2022, 02:07:09 PM
Heart of Darkness pre-order is up - https://freeleaguepublishing.com/en/store/?product_id=7621164597506

QuoteThis is a pre-order. The physical module will be sent to you ahead of the official release. You will get a full PDF of the module shortly after purchase.

INTERFACE 3301 — WEYLAND-YUTANI — FROM NETWORK

COMCON NODE 1010141 — EIJA33477975

MESSAGE BEGINS.

NEW LIFE DISCOVERED. CLASSIFICATION, EXTREMOPHILE. SERVICES REQUIRED. CONTRACT FOLLOWS.

AWAITING ACKNOWLEDGMENT...

The company found a new lifeform, and they want you to study it. Their offer's uncharacteristically generous—you catalog this organism, determine how they can use it, and bring it back so they can slap their patent on it. Fairly routine stuff. In exchange, they'll hook you up with a cushy corporate department head position, secure you a book deal, and make sure the institute of your choice gives you tenure. Did I mention the money? There's a lot of it. Simple survey, sample, and analysis job. Seemed too good to be true.

Of course it is.

Heart of Darkness is a complete Cinematic Scenario for the ALIEN roleplaying game, written by sci-fi novelist Andrew E.C. Gaska. It is a stand-alone adventure, but also serves as a conclusion to the Draconis Strain Saga begun in the cinematic scenario Chariot of the Gods and continued in Destroyer of Worlds. The scenario is designed for 3–5 players plus the Game Mother, and is a spiraling descent into soul-crushing madness. This boxed set contains:

The main Heart of Darkness scenario book.
A huge double-sided map (format 864x558mm) of the Erebos plasma trawling space station.
Seven pre-generated characters to choose from.
Custom cards for secret messages and personal agendas.
Player maps and handouts.

Some screenies in the email - https://mailchi.mp/frialigan/alien-heart-of-darkness-preorder?e=5b98231e96

(https://mcusercontent.com/2dcfb24fb7c8d0fb9c2f52040/images/7f209c35-57c5-48a9-f76e-590625114386.jpg)
(https://mcusercontent.com/2dcfb24fb7c8d0fb9c2f52040/images/176ba475-d4bc-bc5b-c16d-4fa9b907be61.jpg)
(https://mcusercontent.com/2dcfb24fb7c8d0fb9c2f52040/images/9eccc616-02ee-6f82-c9d3-af42ee50dbc5.jpg)
(https://mcusercontent.com/2dcfb24fb7c8d0fb9c2f52040/images/84469858-de85-09f6-003e-1344d7139c53.jpg)
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Kailem on Mar 15, 2022, 03:13:20 PM
I wish they hadn't put what sounds like a massive spoiler in that last one, but glad to finally see some more artwork and get a price! Gonna have to pick this up to complete the trilogy.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: judge death on Mar 16, 2022, 10:34:18 PM
Pre-ordered :D
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Kailem on Mar 19, 2022, 08:26:50 PM
Just got round to actually pre-ordering it today and got my pdf copy almost immediately! I didn't realise it was already out in pdf form.

Now I can........continue not to look at it for fear of being spoiled even more before I potentially have the chance to play through it one day! :laugh:
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: BlueMarsalis79 on Mar 21, 2022, 09:02:49 AM
Good lord I really have to catch up.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Xiggz456 on Mar 29, 2022, 01:50:07 PM
Preordered and got my PDF! I've been re-reading the last batch of books (Phalanx, Infiltrator, and Into Charybdis) since I'd only read each once. Currently on Charybdis so I"ll be fully refreshed for Colony War. Once I finish Colony War I'll start making my way through the PDF!
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Bughuntwilson on Mar 29, 2022, 04:26:25 PM
So the cat can be played apprently i wonder if hes a synthic like that anime lily cat?
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: judge death on Mar 30, 2022, 09:36:37 PM
Quote from: BlueMarsalis79 on Mar 21, 2022, 09:02:49 AM
Good lord I really have to catch up.
Im surprised you havent all releases from the rpg.  :o ;D
The alien series and its lore done right, with your description of certain details and its exactly how it should be.

Something I hope for that we get one day is:
RPG expansion of traders/smugglers and pirates in the alien universe. Play as a space pirate would be fun, Ridley if I recall it right mentioned or explained one reason to why Ash/androids was placed onboard spaceshipswas to eliminate the threat of piracy and smuggling or take the cargo and steal it etc.

Alien creatures book, stats and rpg rules for all alien creatures, old and new and with ton of interesting facts, from the lore and new.

Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Kailem on Apr 01, 2022, 05:38:39 PM
Quote from: judge death on Mar 30, 2022, 09:36:37 PMAlien creatures book, stats and rpg rules for all alien creatures, old and new and with ton of interesting facts, from the lore and new.

An Alien sourcebook is definitely something I'm hoping we see in the future. We've got the stats for all the "main" xenos in the core rules and other books, but there have been so many different types of Aliens shown throughout the years in games, comics and figures that it'd be awesome to get some expanded lore, stats and artwork for them.

Plus Andrew Gaska is a big Kenner fan and has already brought several Kenner figures into the RPG and alluded to others, so it'd be awesome to get things like the Queen Face Hugger and Mantis Alien in here officially.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Kailem on Apr 06, 2022, 04:16:59 PM
A recent livestream with Andrew Gaska where, at one point, he mentions again that the upcoming release schedule for new content as of the moment is looking to be (in this order of release):

-The "Building Better Worlds" colonist/explorer source book
-Another cinematic scenario
-A 'space trucker' source book

Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Bughuntwilson on Apr 06, 2022, 06:31:11 PM
I gotta ask a question in the cmom they mention fighting a dinosaur on a planet is that a joke or is it reference to something the only thing i can think of is thay one alien vs predator novel with the cyborg xenomorphs that also had cloned dinosaurs i think
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: judge death on Apr 06, 2022, 09:47:46 PM
Its a reference/tribute to one comic if I recall right. :)

Oh, so they told what they are up to next already, sounds amazing! :D I will throw my money at them as soon as they present anything. Just wish they made that alien source book, oh well one day!

Also yes: they have done a such superb work on the lore, tying and referencing to dark horse comics and games and books, and made a lot work, its first time I see like 99% of us fans liking it and agree on its lore. Showcase of how to do the lore and franchise right. :)
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Xenomrph on Apr 06, 2022, 11:44:27 PM
Quote from: Kailem on Apr 06, 2022, 04:16:59 PM
A recent livestream with Andrew Gaska where, at one point, he mentions again that the upcoming release schedule for new content as of the moment is looking to be (in this order of release):

-The "Building Better Worlds" colonist/explorer source book
-Another cinematic scenario
-A 'space trucker' source book


STILL no announcement of the Alien RPG: Feline Survival Guide.

f**king bullshit >:(
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Bughuntwilson on Apr 07, 2022, 05:37:06 AM
Quote from: judge death on Apr 06, 2022, 09:47:46 PM
Its a reference/tribute to one comic if I recall right. :)

Oh, so they told what they are up to next already, sounds amazing! :D I will throw my money at them as soon as they present anything. Just wish they made that alien source book, oh well one day!

Also yes: they have done a such superb work on the lore, tying and referencing to dark horse comics and games and books, and made a lot work, its first time I see like 99% of us fans liking it and agree on its lore. Showcase of how to do the lore and franchise right. :)
Im suprise we don't have a refrence to kenners atax though it would be cool if we get some organizations that actual make tech based on the xenomorphs and they would be a biological exosuit model called atax
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Kailem on Apr 07, 2022, 03:56:56 PM
Quote from: judge death on Apr 06, 2022, 09:47:46 PMOh, so they told what they are up to next already, sounds amazing! :D I will throw my money at them as soon as they present anything. Just wish they made that alien source book, oh well one day!

Yeah fingers crossed it's something they have in mind and we'll see it one day. I remember in one stream a while back, before the release of the Colonial Marines Operations Manual last year, Andrew Gaska also mentioned the possibility of an android sourcebook, so that's a thing we might end up seeing at some point after these other books too.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Bughuntwilson on Apr 08, 2022, 02:42:45 PM
Quote from: Kailem on Apr 07, 2022, 03:56:56 PM
Quote from: judge death on Apr 06, 2022, 09:47:46 PMOh, so they told what they are up to next already, sounds amazing! :D I will throw my money at them as soon as they present anything. Just wish they made that alien source book, oh well one day!

Yeah fingers crossed it's something they have in mind and we'll see it one day. I remember in one stream a while back, before the release of the Colonial Marines Operations Manual last year, Andrew Gaska also mentioned the possibility of an android sourcebook, so that's a thing we might end up seeing at some point after these other books too.
Hopefully the android sourcebook explores animal android more thoroughly like that one dog from the short
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Xiggz456 on Apr 13, 2022, 04:23:20 PM
Just finished up my read through of "Heart of Darkness" and there're are some very interesting and new concepts utilized in this campaign.

While reading (without getting into specifics) I felt that the following entries influenced aspects of this story:

Prometheus
Alien 3
Fire & Stone
Rage War
Gibson's A3
Harvest (short film)
Bloodlines (which PKJ has now confirmed is in the same timeline as the RPG)

Once again the artwork was phenomenal! Looking forward to the next expansion as well as what people playing think of the experience.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Bughuntwilson on Apr 13, 2022, 10:31:48 PM
Quote from: Xiggz456 on Apr 13, 2022, 04:23:20 PM
Just finished up my read through of "Heart of Darkness" and there're are some very interesting and new concepts utilized in this campaign.

While reading (without getting into specifics) I felt that the following entries influenced aspects of this story:

Prometheus
Alien 3
Fire & Stone
Rage War
Gibson's A3
Harvest (short film)
Bloodlines (which PKJ has now confirmed is in the same timeline as the RPG)

Once again the artwork was phenomenal! Looking forward to the next expansion as well as what people playing think of the experience.
Tell me how the marvel comics fit into this
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Xenomrph on Apr 14, 2022, 12:17:25 AM
Quote from: Xiggz456 on Apr 13, 2022, 04:23:20 PM
Just finished up my read through of "Heart of Darkness" and there're are some very interesting and new concepts utilized in this campaign.

While reading (without getting into specifics) I felt that the following entries influenced aspects of this story:

Prometheus
Alien 3
Fire & Stone
Rage War
Gibson's A3
Harvest (short film)
Bloodlines (which PKJ has now confirmed is in the same timeline as the RPG)

Once again the artwork was phenomenal! Looking forward to the next expansion as well as what people playing think of the experience.
Who is PKJ?
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Bughuntwilson on Apr 14, 2022, 02:23:39 AM
Quote from: Xenomrph on Apr 14, 2022, 12:17:25 AM
Quote from: Xiggz456 on Apr 13, 2022, 04:23:20 PM
Just finished up my read through of "Heart of Darkness" and there're are some very interesting and new concepts utilized in this campaign.

While reading (without getting into specifics) I felt that the following entries influenced aspects of this story:

Prometheus
Alien 3
Fire & Stone
Rage War
Gibson's A3
Harvest (short film)
Bloodlines (which PKJ has now confirmed is in the same timeline as the RPG)

Once again the artwork was phenomenal! Looking forward to the next expansion as well as what people playing think of the experience.
Who is PKJ?
The author of the alien marvel comics
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: BlueMarsalis79 on Apr 14, 2022, 04:58:14 AM
I call bullshit.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Xiggz456 on Apr 14, 2022, 12:19:39 PM
Quote from: Bughuntwilson on Apr 13, 2022, 10:31:48 PM
Quote from: Xiggz456 on Apr 13, 2022, 04:23:20 PM
Just finished up my read through of "Heart of Darkness" and there're are some very interesting and new concepts utilized in this campaign.

While reading (without getting into specifics) I felt that the following entries influenced aspects of this story:

Prometheus
Alien 3
Fire & Stone
Rage War
Gibson's A3
Harvest (short film)
Bloodlines (which PKJ has now confirmed is in the same timeline as the RPG)

Once again the artwork was phenomenal! Looking forward to the next expansion as well as what people playing think of the experience.
Tell me how the marvel comics fit into this
Spoiler
(https://i.ibb.co/PY7HRg7/IMG-1641.jpg) (https://ibb.co/PY7HRg7)
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Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: BlueMarsalis79 on Apr 14, 2022, 12:34:56 PM
By debasing themselves.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Bughuntwilson on Apr 14, 2022, 01:33:23 PM
Quote from: BlueMarsalis79 on Apr 14, 2022, 12:34:56 PM
By debasing themselves.
What do you mean by that exactly you think the marvel comics dosnt fit in?


Quote from: Xiggz456 on Apr 14, 2022, 12:19:39 PM
Quote from: Bughuntwilson on Apr 13, 2022, 10:31:48 PM
Quote from: Xiggz456 on Apr 13, 2022, 04:23:20 PM
Just finished up my read through of "Heart of Darkness" and there're are some very interesting and new concepts utilized in this campaign.

While reading (without getting into specifics) I felt that the following entries influenced aspects of this story:

Prometheus
Alien 3
Fire & Stone
Rage War
Gibson's A3
Harvest (short film)
Bloodlines (which PKJ has now confirmed is in the same timeline as the RPG)

Once again the artwork was phenomenal! Looking forward to the next expansion as well as what people playing think of the experience.
Tell me how the marvel comics fit into this
Spoiler
(https://i.ibb.co/PY7HRg7/IMG-1641.jpg) (https://ibb.co/PY7HRg7)
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So the woman in the dark is makeing a comeback she proably my least favorite concept from the marvel comics
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Xiggz456 on Apr 14, 2022, 01:54:24 PM
Hey man can you put some spoiler tags on your post please? I'd rather not elaborate anymore until more people get a chance to read/experience the campaign.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: BlueMarsalis79 on Apr 14, 2022, 02:01:40 PM
I think Marvel's Alien's a joke.
But I will wait and see for myself, Andrew Gaska's not done anything incorrect as yet, as far as I am concerned.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: TilotnyWorshiper28 on Apr 14, 2022, 02:18:25 PM
Quote from: Bughuntwilson on Apr 14, 2022, 01:33:23 PM
Quote from: BlueMarsalis79 on Apr 14, 2022, 12:34:56 PM
By debasing themselves.
What do you mean by that exactly you think the marvel comics dosnt fit in?


Quote from: Xiggz456 on Apr 14, 2022, 12:19:39 PM
Quote from: Bughuntwilson on Apr 13, 2022, 10:31:48 PM
Quote from: Xiggz456 on Apr 13, 2022, 04:23:20 PM
Just finished up my read through of "Heart of Darkness" and there're are some very interesting and new concepts utilized in this campaign.

While reading (without getting into specifics) I felt that the following entries influenced aspects of this story:

Prometheus
Alien 3
Fire & Stone
Rage War
Gibson's A3
Harvest (short film)
Bloodlines (which PKJ has now confirmed is in the same timeline as the RPG)

Once again the artwork was phenomenal! Looking forward to the next expansion as well as what people playing think of the experience.
Tell me how the marvel comics fit into this
Spoiler
(https://i.ibb.co/PY7HRg7/IMG-1641.jpg) (https://ibb.co/PY7HRg7)
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So the woman in the dark is makeing a comeback she proably my least favorite concept from the marvel comics

Spoiler
I don't know bout this the Fulfremmen apparently have no gender  but the Goddess/ Woman in the dark is Obviously female.
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Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Bughuntwilson on Apr 14, 2022, 02:28:30 PM
Quote from: BlueMarsalis79 on Apr 14, 2022, 02:01:40 PM
I think Marvel's Alien's a joke.
But I will wait and see for myself, Andrew Gaska's not done anything incorrect as yet, as far as I am concerned.
Dont blame you when the art is mostly stills swiped from the movies and action figure where you can still see the swivels and joints and stories are written amaetur at best i woulnd't take it serious either


Quote from: Xiggz456 on Apr 14, 2022, 01:54:24 PM
Hey man can you put some spoiler tags on your post please? I'd rather not elaborate anymore until more people get a chance to read/experience the campaign.
My bad i use my phone and I am not that good when it comes to forums and understanding how to do spoiler tags

Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: BlueMarsalis79 on Apr 14, 2022, 02:32:36 PM
Yeah I just read up on this and...

In no way does this connect to either Marvel's Alien or Dark Horse's prior iterations of "similar ideas"  I hesitate to even say that. As this looks to be a much more sophisticated take. And feels closer in relation to Alex White's work than anything else.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Xiggz456 on Apr 14, 2022, 03:35:10 PM
Quote from: TilotnyWorshiper28 on Apr 14, 2022, 02:18:25 PM
Quote from: Bughuntwilson on Apr 14, 2022, 01:33:23 PM
Quote from: BlueMarsalis79 on Apr 14, 2022, 12:34:56 PM
By debasing themselves.
What do you mean by that exactly you think the marvel comics dosnt fit in?


Quote from: Xiggz456 on Apr 14, 2022, 12:19:39 PM
Quote from: Bughuntwilson on Apr 13, 2022, 10:31:48 PM
Quote from: Xiggz456 on Apr 13, 2022, 04:23:20 PM
Just finished up my read through of "Heart of Darkness" and there're are some very interesting and new concepts utilized in this campaign.

While reading (without getting into specifics) I felt that the following entries influenced aspects of this story:

Prometheus
Alien 3
Fire & Stone
Rage War
Gibson's A3
Harvest (short film)
Bloodlines (which PKJ has now confirmed is in the same timeline as the RPG)

Once again the artwork was phenomenal! Looking forward to the next expansion as well as what people playing think of the experience.
Tell me how the marvel comics fit into this
Spoiler
(https://i.ibb.co/PY7HRg7/IMG-1641.jpg) (https://ibb.co/PY7HRg7)
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So the woman in the dark is makeing a comeback she proably my least favorite concept from the marvel comics

Spoiler
I don't know bout this the Fulfremmen apparently have no gender  but the Goddess/ Woman in the dark is Obviously female.
[close]

Spoiler
True but the illustration of the Fulfremmen leans more female and is the highest being of the pathogen. Which would seem to take influence from the Goddess as that is also the "final" evolution of "Prometheus' Cleansing Fire". Also to clarify, I never said it's the same thing, only that it seems to take inspiration from that concept.
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Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Bughuntwilson on Apr 14, 2022, 04:48:44 PM
Quote from: BlueMarsalis79 on Apr 14, 2022, 02:32:36 PM
Yeah I just read up on this and...

In no way does this connect to either Marvel's Alien or Dark Horse's prior iterations of "similar ideas"  I hesitate to even say that. As this looks to be a much more sophisticated take. And feels closer in relation to Alex White's work than anything else.
I see this as win to be honesty the marvel run a bit shoody to say the least gotta ask a question which alex white alien novel you live?
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: TilotnyWorshiper28 on Apr 14, 2022, 04:52:47 PM
Quote from: Xiggz456 on Apr 14, 2022, 03:35:10 PM
Quote from: TilotnyWorshiper28 on Apr 14, 2022, 02:18:25 PM
Quote from: Bughuntwilson on Apr 14, 2022, 01:33:23 PM
Quote from: BlueMarsalis79 on Apr 14, 2022, 12:34:56 PM
By debasing themselves.
What do you mean by that exactly you think the marvel comics dosnt fit in?


Quote from: Xiggz456 on Apr 14, 2022, 12:19:39 PM
Quote from: Bughuntwilson on Apr 13, 2022, 10:31:48 PM
Quote from: Xiggz456 on Apr 13, 2022, 04:23:20 PM
Just finished up my read through of "Heart of Darkness" and there're are some very interesting and new concepts utilized in this campaign.

While reading (without getting into specifics) I felt that the following entries influenced aspects of this story:

Prometheus
Alien 3
Fire & Stone
Rage War
Gibson's A3
Harvest (short film)
Bloodlines (which PKJ has now confirmed is in the same timeline as the RPG)

Once again the artwork was phenomenal! Looking forward to the next expansion as well as what people playing think of the experience.
Tell me how the marvel comics fit into this
Spoiler
(https://i.ibb.co/PY7HRg7/IMG-1641.jpg) (https://ibb.co/PY7HRg7)
[close]
So the woman in the dark is makeing a comeback she proably my least favorite concept from the marvel comics

Spoiler
I don't know bout this the Fulfremmen apparently have no gender  but the Goddess/ Woman in the dark is Obviously female.
[close]

Spoiler
True but the illustration of the Fulfremmen leans more female and is the highest being of the pathogen. Which would seem to take influence from the Goddess as that is also the "final" evolution of "Prometheus' Cleansing Fire". Also to clarify, I never said it's the same thing, only that it seems to take inspiration from that concept.
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ah ok .  I haven't seen that illustration  so I wouldn't have known
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: judge death on Apr 14, 2022, 05:20:15 PM
Quote from: BlueMarsalis79 on Apr 14, 2022, 02:32:36 PM
Yeah I just read up on this and...

In no way does this connect to either Marvel's Alien or Dark Horse's prior iterations of "similar ideas"  I hesitate to even say that. As this looks to be a much more sophisticated take. And feels closer in relation to Alex White's work than anything else.
Thank heavens! If they added marvels ideas and timeline and that Sil creature and claim its now canon because that marvel writer wants it, and add: facehuggers with centerpide legs, ever mutating xenos, freaks, human alien hybrids, facehugger laying eggs several times or in any body openings, alpha goat alien, host have hive mind connection etc that the writer wanted at marvel..... Then I burn the books.
thankfully its untouched by marvels crappiness.  :)
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Bughuntwilson on Apr 14, 2022, 05:33:27 PM
Quote from: judge death on Apr 14, 2022, 05:20:15 PM
Quote from: BlueMarsalis79 on Apr 14, 2022, 02:32:36 PM
Yeah I just read up on this and...

In no way does this connect to either Marvel's Alien or Dark Horse's prior iterations of "similar ideas"  I hesitate to even say that. As this looks to be a much more sophisticated take. And feels closer in relation to Alex White's work than anything else.
Thank heavens! If they added marvels ideas and timeline and that Sil creature and claim its now canon because that marvel writer wants it, and add: facehuggers with centerpide legs, ever mutating xenos, freaks, human alien hybrids, facehugger laying eggs several times or in any body openings, alpha goat alien, host have hive mind connection etc that the writer wanted at marvel..... Then I burn the books.
thankfully its untouched by marvels crappiness.  :)
I forgot about the facehugger implating embyros serval  time in any body opening and the writer coundt even be bother to put it in the book he put in a teeter
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: BlueMarsalis79 on Apr 14, 2022, 06:49:42 PM
It feels like what Blue searched for in a sense, and carries that similar androgenous nature, commanding presence.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Apr 14, 2022, 07:18:38 PM
Quote from: Bughuntwilson on Apr 14, 2022, 05:33:27 PM

I forgot about the facehugger implating embyros serval  time in any body opening and the writer coundt even be bother to put it in the book he put in a teeter

Remind me about this one?
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Xiggz456 on Apr 14, 2022, 07:42:02 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Apr 14, 2022, 07:18:38 PM
Quote from: Bughuntwilson on Apr 14, 2022, 05:33:27 PM

I forgot about the facehugger implating embyros serval  time in any body opening and the writer coundt even be bother to put it in the book he put in a teeter

Remind me about this one?

"Facehugger's buffet" with the implication being that any orifice would suffice for implantation. Everyone hated it lol although considering plagiarus praepotens is just refined pathogen it would stand to reason that as soon as it reaches a bloodstream it could potentially begin to create some sort of burster.

Ladies and gentlemen I present to you "the Buttburster" :laugh:
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Bughuntwilson on Apr 14, 2022, 08:29:15 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Apr 14, 2022, 07:18:38 PM
Quote from: Bughuntwilson on Apr 14, 2022, 05:33:27 PM

I forgot about the facehugger implating embyros serval  time in any body opening and the writer coundt even be bother to put it in the book he put in a teeter

Remind me about this one?
I meant to say tweet pkj on twitter once said the facehugger can  implant a person mutiple times and will use a orfice of the body


Quote from: Xiggz456 on Apr 14, 2022, 07:42:02 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Apr 14, 2022, 07:18:38 PM
Quote from: Bughuntwilson on Apr 14, 2022, 05:33:27 PM

I forgot about the facehugger implating embyros serval  time in any body opening and the writer coundt even be bother to put it in the book he put in a teeter

Remind me about this one?

"Facehugger's buffet" with the implication being that any orifice would suffice for implantation. Everyone hated it lol although considering plagiarus praepotens is just refined pathogen it would stand to reason that as soon as it reaches a bloodstream it could potentially begin to create some sort of burster.

Ladies and gentlemen I present to you "the Buttburster" :laugh:
Assblaster 9000
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Stitch on Apr 15, 2022, 06:25:32 PM
Quote from: Bughuntwilson on Apr 14, 2022, 08:29:15 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Apr 14, 2022, 07:18:38 PM
Quote from: Bughuntwilson on Apr 14, 2022, 05:33:27 PM

I forgot about the facehugger implating embyros serval  time in any body opening and the writer coundt even be bother to put it in the book he put in a teeter

Remind me about this one?
I meant to say tweet pkj on twitter once said the facehugger can  implant a person mutiple times and will use a orfice of the body


Quote from: Xiggz456 on Apr 14, 2022, 07:42:02 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Apr 14, 2022, 07:18:38 PM
Quote from: Bughuntwilson on Apr 14, 2022, 05:33:27 PM

I forgot about the facehugger implating embyros serval  time in any body opening and the writer coundt even be bother to put it in the book he put in a teeter

Remind me about this one?

"Facehugger's buffet" with the implication being that any orifice would suffice for implantation. Everyone hated it lol although considering plagiarus praepotens is just refined pathogen it would stand to reason that as soon as it reaches a bloodstream it could potentially begin to create some sort of burster.

Ladies and gentlemen I present to you "the Buttburster" :laugh:
Assblaster 9000
(https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/tremors/images/f/f5/African_Ass_Blaster_%2871%29.jpg)
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Bughuntwilson on Apr 15, 2022, 07:38:45 PM
Quote from: Stitch on Apr 15, 2022, 06:25:32 PM
Quote from: Bughuntwilson on Apr 14, 2022, 08:29:15 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Apr 14, 2022, 07:18:38 PM
Quote from: Bughuntwilson on Apr 14, 2022, 05:33:27 PM

I forgot about the facehugger implating embyros serval  time in any body opening and the writer coundt even be bother to put it in the book he put in a teeter

Remind me about this one?
I meant to say tweet pkj on twitter once said the facehugger can  implant a person mutiple times and will use a orfice of the body


Quote from: Xiggz456 on Apr 14, 2022, 07:42:02 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Apr 14, 2022, 07:18:38 PM
Quote from: Bughuntwilson on Apr 14, 2022, 05:33:27 PM

I forgot about the facehugger implating embyros serval  time in any body opening and the writer coundt even be bother to put it in the book he put in a teeter

Remind me about this one?

"Facehugger's buffet" with the implication being that any orifice would suffice for implantation. Everyone hated it lol although considering plagiarus praepotens is just refined pathogen it would stand to reason that as soon as it reaches a bloodstream it could potentially begin to create some sort of burster.

Ladies and gentlemen I present to you "the Buttburster" :laugh:
Assblaster 9000
(https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/tremors/images/f/f5/African_Ass_Blaster_%2871%29.jpg)
I prefer the orginal design myself
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Xiggz456 on May 03, 2022, 02:38:02 PM
Read through the cinematic scenario included with "Colony War". The scenario was an immediate follow up to the events from the novel which was a nice touch. Included is a map of the LV187 complex, which I wish I'd known about while I was reading the novel but nevertheless it was cool seeing the layout after imagining the area in my head.

We are definitely heading in the direction of a more interconnected universe which some will definitely enjoy and others probably won't. The guides of this current heading appear to be Clara and Gaska as they've been acknowledged in the most recent outings, with not a mention of SM since "Phalanx" released.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: BlueMarsalis79 on May 03, 2022, 03:42:36 PM
I have no issue as long as it's well done. And that's the issue with Colony War as it stands so far.

Why the mention of SM though?
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Xiggz456 on May 03, 2022, 04:07:15 PM
Just noting that there's been a passing of the torch for "canon consultants" if you will.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Xenomrph on May 04, 2022, 03:22:18 AM
Quote from: Xiggz456 on May 03, 2022, 02:38:02 PMwith not a mention of SM since "Phalanx" released.

Quote from: Xiggz456 on May 03, 2022, 04:07:15 PMJust noting that there's been a passing of the torch for "canon consultants" if you will.

There may or may not be a reason for this, which I am not at liberty to elaborate on.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Local Trouble on May 08, 2022, 12:57:08 PM
I would like to know more.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: 426Buddy on May 09, 2022, 01:46:31 AM
Sounds like something unfortunate  :-\
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Xenomrph on May 09, 2022, 02:51:39 AM
Quote from: 426Buddy on May 09, 2022, 01:46:31 AMSounds like something unfortunate  :-\
In a sense.

No physical trauma, illness, or injury if that's what you're thinking.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: BlueMarsalis79 on May 09, 2022, 05:26:19 AM
Quote from: Local Trouble on May 08, 2022, 12:57:08 PMI would like to know more.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: 426Buddy on May 09, 2022, 11:33:23 AM
Well as long as SM and his family are doing alright then thats cool.

Still it's a bummer if he's no longer involved with the franchise.
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Local Trouble on May 09, 2022, 01:09:01 PM
Quote from: 426Buddy on May 09, 2022, 01:46:31 AMSounds like something unfortunate  :-\

It does. :(
Title: Re: Free League Publishing Announce Alien: The Roleplaying Game
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Jun 12, 2022, 12:11:35 PM
A little late to the game, but I've finally pre-ordered Heart of Darkness. :D