The Predator Early Reactions Thread

[PredBabe]

Just make the directors cut Shane....

They seriously need to. Who the hell thought it was such a great idea to do so many private screenings and take every single complaint into consideration. Not everyone is going to like everything they see but if they do it decently and it flows with the story they are telling, then why the hell not? 😑😒

[RidgeTop]

https://twitter.com/AliPlumb/status/1039170535580684288

He's the BBC Radio 1 films critic.

Pretty much my thoughts exactly after seeing it. Though it was a long night and I could use a second viewing.

[Ultramorph]

This is going to be the next "Synder Cut" fiasco. Do keep in mind the original version wasn't finished and they likely won't ever spend the money to do so.

[Xerxész]

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And did they keep the part in the script where the Fugitive cuts off that scientist's head and use it to get through the door and mimic his voice?

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That would interest me as well.

[Jigsaw85]

But you feel the editor's scissors everywhere and often scenes don't connect

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.....

I knew those reshoots were going to screw everything up. I really hope they'll release the alternate version with the hybrids. I mean the test screening didn't like the hybrids but they were cool with.....that thing that shows up at the end of the film? I want the film Black originally had in mind.

[Samhain13]

They should have done test screenings with just the avpgalaxy's members  , hell even with just Hicks would be enough for the studio to get the feedback they really needed.

[MudButt]

Numerous people on here weren't happy with the film Shane Black was reportedly going to give us originally. Now everyone wants it back 

[Samhain13]

Numerous people on here weren't happy with the film Shane Black was reportedly going to give us originally. Now everyone wants it back 

No no... I didn't mean it like that. If I was in that test screening I would say both ideas were bad. I think that most fans know things that are way off for a predator movie or not, I didn't like those hybrids, the friendly predators, the new ending. Can't be that hard to make a predator movie without things that doesn't match with the creatures we saw in the previous movies. It's about alien beings that like hunting humans. It shouldn't go much far from that.

I really don't get the need to make things so different, change so much the predators we know and also add a new super predator for the second goddamn time. Just look at Predator 2, even the avp movies didn't went that off...

[Wysps]

I think the issue is not what they took out per se, but how they went about removing those scenes and failing to put the movie back together in a cohesive, fluid way. I don't know if the film is choppy because of the missing plot elements (like the hybrids) or how they changed setting of multiple scenes from day to night, or even that big "spring break" type segment they removed and seemingly failed to replace. Appears to be a multi-faceted issue, not just removing the hybrids - which I think was just one linear chunk of the movie anyway.

[azamultic]

Numerous people on here weren't happy with the film Shane Black was reportedly going to give us originally. Now everyone wants it back 

No no... I didn't mean it like that. If I was in that test screening I would say both ideas were bad. I think that most fans know things that are way off for a predator movie or not, I didn't like those hybrids, the friendly predators, the new ending. Can't be that hard to make a predator movie without things that doesn't match with the creatures we saw in the previous movies. It's about alien beings that like hunting humans. It shouldn't go much far from that.

I really don't get the need to make things so different, change so much the predators we know and also add a new super predator for the second goddamn time. Just look at Predator 2, even the avp movies didn't went that off...

It's all subjective. " Just look at Predator 2, even the avp movies didn't went that off" For Arnold taking the movie out of jungle to the city is already a big No no for a predator movie. Even though I agree that Shane Black did risk a lot with this movie, everybody has their own limit and tolerance for new ideas, for some body change small thing is a lot, and for another people changing whole lore isn't much of a difference. I think it's really hard to find what is the golden line for changes, where new viewers and fans will be entertained equally.   

[Samhain13]

There are so many way they could have told this history without:

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The crazy hybrids, super upgraded 10 foot tall predator, human-predator teamups, nano suit for humans made by predators, turning predator into generic alien invaders who want to take over Earth. Can't believe those writers get paid to do this crap.

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It's all subjective. " Just look at Predator 2, even the avp movies didn't went that off" For Arnold taking the movie out of jungle to the city is already a big No no for a predator movie.

My issues are mostly related to the portrayal of the creature. Predator 2 did nothing wrong in regards to that to me. AVP added some things I didn't like. AVPR just followed AVP but focused more on action than in predator history so whatever. The Predator just did way too much for the creature for me. Arnie was probably more focused on the movie overall than the portrayal of the creature plus wasn't he working on Terminator 2? Normally I hear he turned down Predator for Terminator, so there is that. He made so many bad movies, can't believe he would turn down Predator 2 solely for being set on a city considering how he didn't have a problem with the other movies he was a part of. Maybe there were other reasons.

Even though I agree that Shane Black did risk a lot with this movie, everybody has their own limit and tolerance for new ideas, for some body change small thing is a lot, and for another people changing whole lore isn't much of a difference.

Yeah, the creatures's lore is where I have the least tolerance.

I think it's really hard to find what is the golden line for changes, where new viewers and fans will be entertained equally.   

I think taking out the controversial stuff would contribute to everyone. Even others I know who only saw a few predator movies think the new stuff looks stupid.

[MudButt]

Either they go somewhere different and get told they changed to much and ruined the lore, or they give us essentially the first movie in a different location or time and people say they made a safe choice and added nothing new.

Fandom doesn't even know what it wants. They just want the opposite of what they get.

[yautjapet]

Even though I agree that Shane Black did risk a lot with this movie, everybody has their own limit and tolerance for new ideas, for some body change small thing is a lot, and for another people changing whole lore isn't much of a difference.

Yeah, the creatures's lore is where I have the least tolerance.

Hard same. There's a lot I can get over but the lore and the portrayal of the predators are what's most important to me.

Fandom doesn't even know what it wants. They just want the opposite of what they get.

That can be a frustrating feeling, but fandom isn't a monolith. It's made up of countless different people with myriad different opinions. It's inevitable there's not going to be a total consensus on anything.

[MudButt]

I think you could have easily made essentially a rehash of the first film and just put it in a different setting and create great characters and some awesome set pieces and we'd have been happy. Basically just Mad Max Fury Road it. Simple premise, great set pieces and characters.

I applaud Black for trying to do something new and expand the lore. I think you could do something simple and still include things like different breeds of Predators, but he went for it and unfortunately it looks like it didn't pan out how people wanted it too.

[Samhain13]

they give us essentially the first movie in a different location or time and people say they made a safe choice and added nothing new.

That's pretty much how Predator 2 and Predators handled this and yet they did add more to the predator species and their culture, we got to know more about them.

I think you could do something simple and still include things like different breeds of Predators, but he went for it and unfortunately it looks like it didn't pan out how people wanted it too.

The whole different breed of predator, wolves vs dogs thing on Predators didn't bother me, I don't mind adding new stuff, just on how they do it and if it gets off character for a predator. My main problem on Predators was on how the classic was just there to be used to get killed by the Berserker, the whole plot with Royce releasing him was worthless, did nothing, the ship got blown, the predator got dead. I would have even prefered if classic and Royce teamed up against Berserker over that.

Having a civil wars between 2 races of predators is new and acceptable for me, the issue is how they handle it. Trashing the original creature or making a 10 foot tall predator doesn't seem like a good way of handling the idea.

Fandom doesn't even know what it wants.

Maybe some fans get a little conflited over what they truly want but most know for sure what they really don't want on a predator or alien movie and that is shared by most. Like how many of us wanted David to be resposible the alien's creation or for the crash on LV-426, for him to be original space jockey?(That might actually happen depending on Ridley's mood)

How many of us wanted The Predator's ending and a sequel to follow those footsteps? I doubt many.