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Author Topic: ‘Then Some Other Bullshit Happens’ – Walter Hill and David Giler’s Alien 2 Storynotes  (Read 3375 times)

Corporal Hicks
Oct 23, 2020, 05:19:45 PM
Topic on: Oct 23, 2020, 05:19:45 PM

In a franchise where Alien 3 exists, it’s easy for films with less complicated narrative developments to be seen as having a simple journey. But what we might tend to forget is that there are countless pitches and treatments that are never heard of outside of studio executives, a point that was re-iterated to us recently in our interview with screenwriter Alex Litvak who shared the various pitches and attempts he’d made in an effort to get Predator 3, and then a 4, put into production.

Just think of all those Alien 5 and Predator 3 pitches and treatments that are probably locked away in a vault at 20th Century Studios! But sometimes we do hear about some of those pitches or treatments. Back in 2019 I wrote a piece on the Alien 2’s that never happened, talking about all the possible directions that we heard about that the Alien sequel could have gone.

While James Cameron’s Aliens had a fairly straight forward narrative development, with the details from his treatment to finished script remaining largely consistent – with some interesting could-have-beens – the storynotes that Walter Hill and David Giler had handed the writer/director were a fair bit different!

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razeak
Oct 25, 2020, 04:07:14 PM
Reply #3 on: Oct 25, 2020, 04:07:14 PM
More evidence Alien was the perfect storm of everyone involved and the timing.


oduodu
Oct 25, 2020, 06:11:42 PM
Reply #4 on: Oct 25, 2020, 06:11:42 PM
so fox was literally sold lock stock and barrel. I thought it was only the management that was changed not ownership. what on earth happened that made it necessary to sell the company?  I mean that pretty drastic isn't it? thanks Corporal. nice article.


Nightmare Asylum
Oct 25, 2020, 06:19:11 PM
Reply #5 on: Oct 25, 2020, 06:19:11 PM
so fox was literally sold lock stock and barrel. I thought it was only the management that was changed not ownership. what on earth happened that made it necessary to sell the company?  I mean that pretty drastic isn't it? thanks Corporal. nice article.

Fox went up for sale, Disney was the highest bidder and thus, Disney now owns the entirety 20th Century Fox Studios. That means FX, Searchlight, Fox's stake in Hulu, all of their in-development projects (like the Avatar sequels), the entire backlog, the whole shebang.




oduodu
Oct 25, 2020, 07:58:04 PM
Reply #8 on: Oct 25, 2020, 07:58:04 PM
so fox was literally sold lock stock and barrel. I thought it was only the management that was changed not ownership. what on earth happened that made it necessary to sell the company?  I mean that pretty drastic isn't it? thanks Corporal. nice article.

Fox went up for sale, Disney was the highest bidder and thus, Disney now owns the entirety 20th Century Fox Studios. That means FX, Searchlight, Fox's stake in Hulu, all of their in-development projects (like the Avatar sequels), the entire backlog, the whole shebang.

hi nightmare asylum

I was referring to this quote from the full article:

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when 20th Century Fox was purchased by Marc Rich and Marvin Davis, the new management had had no interest in working on anything that the previous CEO Alan Ladd had been interested in

end quote.

was it because Allan Ladd left? did the owners of fox sell to new owners between alien and aliens? what was the reason for that?

« Last Edit: Oct 25, 2020, 07:59:49 PM by oduodu »

son_of_kane
Oct 26, 2020, 02:18:09 PM
Reply #9 on: Oct 26, 2020, 02:18:09 PM
I shall be eternally grateful to Alan Ladd Jr. He greenlit Alien and Star Wars, and the production company he formed after he left Fox was behind Blade Runner. He was also the one who suggested that Ripley should be a woman, which led to Sigourney getting the role. He was a visionary.


oduodu
Oct 26, 2020, 03:06:22 PM
Reply #10 on: Oct 26, 2020, 03:06:22 PM
I shall be eternally grateful to Alan Ladd Jr. He greenlit Alien and Star Wars, and the production company he formed after he left Fox was behind Blade Runner. He was also the one who suggested that Ripley should be a woman, which led to Sigourney getting the role. He was a visionary.

unbelievable that the new owners didn't want anything to do with him. what was the name of his production company?



oduodu
Nov 05, 2020, 02:04:13 PM
Reply #12 on: Nov 05, 2020, 02:04:13 PM
https://books.google.co.za/books?id=gRk4ZnFyQrAC&pg=PA107&source=gbs_toc_r&cad=2#v=onepage&q&f=false


check out this from page 182 is osme history from fox. seems alan ladd and co wanted to leave after disputes over payments and increses ext. as they feel they were warranted to it for the sucesses they had. when they left it seeems investors also left and the company went broke or suffered at leat.

please correct me if i am wrong.


T Dog
Nov 08, 2020, 11:07:12 AM
Reply #13 on: Nov 08, 2020, 11:07:12 AM
I shall be eternally grateful to Alan Ladd Jr. He greenlit Alien and Star Wars, and the production company he formed after he left Fox was behind Blade Runner. He was also the one who suggested that Ripley should be a woman, which led to Sigourney getting the role. He was a visionary.

That's something I think about sporadically. Someone should interview him about these things specifically or do a doc on him.


Corporal Hicks
Nov 08, 2020, 12:14:46 PM
Reply #14 on: Nov 08, 2020, 12:14:46 PM
He was featured in CdL's documentary.


 

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