There were chunks of alien all over the lead works. I guess they wanted the queen, but if they are cloning the Alien left plenty of genetic material. There was also a facehugger or two. Hell, the Sulaco has eggs on it. Screw AR. Lol.
Also, my 6 year old was not pleased with Alien 3. Very sad "Rippee" died.
Simplest answer - they were unsuccessful in recreating anything. Much of the bits of the adult would have fallen into the molten lead and what didn't was damaged. Guess it didn't yield anything.
Quote from: razeak on Feb 16, 2024, 03:19:54 AMAlso, my 6 year old was not pleased with Alien 3. Very sad "Rippee" died.
Will you show him/her Rez ? Would you dare ?
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Feb 16, 2024, 10:29:54 PMQuote from: razeak on Feb 16, 2024, 03:19:54 AMAlso, my 6 year old was not pleased with Alien 3. Very sad "Rippee" died.
Will you show him/her Rez ? Would you dare ?
we just finished it. He's heartbroken. Lol.
Quote from: razeak on Feb 17, 2024, 04:26:02 AMQuote from: BigDaddyJohn on Feb 16, 2024, 10:29:54 PMQuote from: razeak on Feb 16, 2024, 03:19:54 AMAlso, my 6 year old was not pleased with Alien 3. Very sad "Rippee" died.
Will you show him/her Rez ? Would you dare ?
we just finished it. He's heartbroken. Lol.
So was I.
He, being 6, didn't actually hate it.......haha
I understand. Experiencing Josh Whedon's writing is rough.
The slapstick humour in A:RES was just what the series needed. :laugh:
Shame how it turned out. This movie has beautiful visuals, with a better story it could have been something great.
I'm giving Whedon a lot of (generally deserved) shit but he also deserve credit for a few neat scenes he wrote, Ripley's clones for example.
The movie starts out very good. I like the dream-like atmosphere it creates. But a big issue the film has (apart from the goofiness) is that the sense of urgency dies and people just start loligaging around and making wisecracks. I do wish they threw whedon's work in the bin, honestly, because most other aspects of the film is ok when you think about it.
I think it's a very enjoyable movie overall. Just not on the level of the first three movies for me.
Even Alien 3 with all the plot holes is far superior. It does feel like an Alien movie all the time.
A:R for me fails the most with too much cartoonish characters. At the very least, they never dial the cartoon aspect back. I used to like Perlman's character, but he just bored me to tears now. The General is the worst thing in the entire series for me.
Vriess was sooooooo......SpongeBob. Just a lot of constant noise. He has some moments though. Christie is just ridiculous.
Gediman and whatever the lead scientists name were mustache twirling villains. Well, Gediman not so much. Just unearned insanity plot wise. I get what they were trying to to show, but I had to fill in the gaps myself.
It's a watchable film....somewhat.
It does have some stellar moments with the brief depth we get in the clone room and the action movie goodness in the initial part of the water scene. Other than that, it's a silly film that happens to have "aliens".
I don't think the xenos look very good, but the newborn practical was great, even if the design is wish.com Giger.
The Newborn is an absolute marvelous technical prowess.
Looking that thing in the eyes still creeps me out.
Quote from: PsyKore on Feb 17, 2024, 12:57:26 PMThe movie starts out very good. I like the dream-like atmosphere it creates. But a big issue the film has (apart from the goofiness) is that the sense of urgency dies and people just start loligaging around and making wisecracks. I do wish they threw whedon's work in the bin, honestly, because most other aspects of the film is ok when you think about it.
I agree, the film works till Charles Dance dies. Then we get monologues and speeches.. this is not Masterpiece Theater. XD :D
The Queen's very athletic, what can I tell ya.
Quote from: E. Shaw on Mar 26, 2024, 04:37:30 PMQuote from: PsyKore on Feb 17, 2024, 12:57:26 PMThe movie starts out very good. I like the dream-like atmosphere it creates. But a big issue the film has (apart from the goofiness) is that the sense of urgency dies and people just start loligaging around and making wisecracks. I do wish they threw whedon's work in the bin, honestly, because most other aspects of the film is ok when you think about it.
I agree, the film works till Charles Dance dies. Then we get monologues and speeches.. this is not Masterpiece Theater. XD :D
Pretty sure they are talking Resurrection as Whedon is quoted. Charles Dance isn't in that movie!
Quote from: razeak on Feb 16, 2024, 03:19:54 AMThere were chunks of alien all over the lead works. I guess they wanted the queen, but if they are cloning the Alien left plenty of genetic material. There was also a facehugger or two. Hell, the Sulaco has eggs on it. Screw AR. Lol.
Also, my 6 year old was not pleased with Alien 3. Very sad "Rippee" died.
My parents didn't want show me
Alien 3, despite having watched
Alien and
Aliens. Despite my begging and the poster 'looking cool'. I never understood why.
Until I finally watched the first 20-30 minutes with parents present at age 9 or 10 and bawled and left the room after. My mom was just like "Yeah, this is kind of why..."
I love it now of course, but holy hell are the first 30 minutes a gut punch if you've never seen it.
Quote from: Jonjamess on Mar 26, 2024, 04:51:41 PMQuote from: E. Shaw on Mar 26, 2024, 04:37:30 PMQuote from: PsyKore on Feb 17, 2024, 12:57:26 PMThe movie starts out very good. I like the dream-like atmosphere it creates. But a big issue the film has (apart from the goofiness) is that the sense of urgency dies and people just start loligaging around and making wisecracks. I do wish they threw whedon's work in the bin, honestly, because most other aspects of the film is ok when you think about it.
I agree, the film works till Charles Dance dies. Then we get monologues and speeches.. this is not Masterpiece Theater. XD :D
Pretty sure they are talking Resurrection as Whedon is quoted. Charles Dance isn't in that movie!
Oopsie. I thought they were talking Alien3, but I see goofiness, yeah that's Resurrection.
Quote from: E. Shaw on Mar 26, 2024, 04:37:30 PMQuote from: PsyKore on Feb 17, 2024, 12:57:26 PMThe movie starts out very good. I like the dream-like atmosphere it creates. But a big issue the film has (apart from the goofiness) is that the sense of urgency dies and people just start loligaging around and making wisecracks. I do wish they threw whedon's work in the bin, honestly, because most other aspects of the film is ok when you think about it.
I agree, the film works till Charles Dance dies. Then we get monologues and speeches.. this is not Masterpiece Theater. XD :D
We get those before he dies too.
Quote from: SM on Mar 26, 2024, 09:21:51 PMQuote from: E. Shaw on Mar 26, 2024, 04:37:30 PMQuote from: PsyKore on Feb 17, 2024, 12:57:26 PMThe movie starts out very good. I like the dream-like atmosphere it creates. But a big issue the film has (apart from the goofiness) is that the sense of urgency dies and people just start loligaging around and making wisecracks. I do wish they threw whedon's work in the bin, honestly, because most other aspects of the film is ok when you think about it.
I agree, the film works till Charles Dance dies. Then we get monologues and speeches.. this is not Masterpiece Theater. XD :D
We get those before he dies too b
But the requiem sermon for Newt and Hicks is good, and how it is cut with the Runner Alien birthing; Ripley's nose bleeds and then the dog or ox tares open with blood, great shot!
One of my favourite scenes in the whole franchise.
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Mar 26, 2024, 10:49:55 PMOne of my favourite scenes in the whole franchise.
Mine too. It felt so Giger worthy. Alien3 really just needs a new edit to be better.
I never had a problem with Alien 3. I think its the only film that ever grew on me in the franchise to like it even more as the series aged.
When I was a kid it was Aliens-Alien-Alien 3
Then it became Alien-Aliens/Alien3. I like it just as well as the second movie, which I think has aged the worst out of the three. It's still great. I just don't think it's as great as I once thought it was.
Alien Res was always too goofy for me. That has been my one consistent problem since I saw it in theaters in 97. Wasn't serious enough.
I remember SciFi had an edit of it back when tv couldn't show all the gore or have all the cussing and it was so much better without all the awkward Perez pulls his brain out and looks at it moments.
Oddly enough, I've still seen Resurrection more times than I've seen most other movies from other franchises.
Alien 3 was the first alien movie I saw entirely. Before that there was the first half of Aliens.
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Mar 26, 2024, 04:48:48 PMThe Queen's very athletic, what can I tell ya.
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Alien Resurrection copied the look and feel of the characters from Alien Earth War in my opinion.
Which look and characters from Earth War?
Quote from: Kimarhi on Apr 02, 2024, 02:03:43 PMOddly enough, I've still seen Resurrection more times than I've seen most other movies from other franchises.
It's always been the most generally rewatchable, despite containing the least to obsess over.
Quote from: SM on Apr 28, 2024, 09:58:09 AMWhich look and characters from Earth War?
AR did kinda have a Sam Kieth look to it.
That's entirely on Ron Perlman though.
Ron's gotta Ron.
Big head, my Dad calls him with affection.
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I can strangely see what ol boy is talking about. Maybe less on the high def releases but on the early theatrical.
Has a kind of filtered brown look to everything. Though from what I can remember that was more like the Earth War covers than the comedy of art within the pages.
The art was drawn in the same way Res was filmed though. Goofily.
Talking about Resurrection, there is a french interview of Jeunet that just got out, where he talks about the movie in depth and how it influenced his life overall.
I don't want to post it since it's in french and the youtube translation thing is very bad for this video.
Funny bits though :
- he literally says the movie is pretty dumb overall lol.
- he considers the movie being "apart" in his career and that it didn't influenced
his later films at all
- he does say he loved the experience though
- he says all french actors and directors that were in hollywood at the time
came sleeping at his house because he was kind of an attraction lol
- he insists that he personally pushed for ideas like the breath door thing
and Perez fiddling with his brain among others
- he says that a lot of his assistants were truly bad at their job lol
- he says he will go see Romulus out of curiosity
I didn't watch the whole thing yet, but that's what I found most amusing from what I saw.
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Apr 29, 2024, 12:50:49 PMTalking about Resurrection, there is a french interview of Jeunet that just got out, where he talks about the movie in depth and how it influenced his life overall.
I don't want to post it since it's in french and the youtube translation thing is very bad for this video.
Funny bits though :
- he literally says the movie is pretty dumb overall lol.
- he considers the movie being "apart" in his career and that it didn't influenced
his later films at all
- he does say he loved the experience though
- he says all french actors and directors that were in hollywood at the time
came sleeping at his house because he was kind of an attraction lol
- he insists that he personally pushed for ideas like the breath door thing
and Perez fiddling with his brain among others
- he says that a lot of his assistants were truly bad at their job lol
- he says he will go see Romulus out of curiosity
I didn't watch the whole thing yet, but that's what I found most amusing from what I saw.
The fiddling with brain thingy was one of the moments that stick out in my memory most when I think of Resurrection.
Quote from: Eal on Apr 29, 2024, 01:04:54 PMQuote from: BigDaddyJohn on Apr 29, 2024, 12:50:49 PMTalking about Resurrection, there is a french interview of Jeunet that just got out, where he talks about the movie in depth and how it influenced his life overall.
I don't want to post it since it's in french and the youtube translation thing is very bad for this video.
Funny bits though :
- he literally says the movie is pretty dumb overall lol.
- he considers the movie being "apart" in his career and that it didn't influenced
his later films at all
- he does say he loved the experience though
- he says all french actors and directors that were in hollywood at the time
came sleeping at his house because he was kind of an attraction lol
- he insists that he personally pushed for ideas like the breath door thing
and Perez fiddling with his brain among others
- he says that a lot of his assistants were truly bad at their job lol
- he says he will go see Romulus out of curiosity
I didn't watch the whole thing yet, but that's what I found most amusing from what I saw.
The fiddling with brain thingy was one of the moments that stick out in my memory most when I think of Resurrection.
Me too. Oh and he also talk about the famous blowjob Weaver gave to the inner mouth of a xeno... I'm sure most of us already knew about it. It was filmed, they sent it to the studio and apparently it amused him very much to do so because he knew they would not allow it to be in the final cut.
All of this enrages me further.
From memory even JPJ thought the brain thing might be a bit too OTT, but it got a good reaction from a test audience so they left it in.
When I watched it at the theater, even 12 year old me was rolling my eyes on that one.
I to was twelve during its release and the movie was too silly for me even back then.
I can take Alien Res if I throw it in the same camp as the comics. A kind of silly EU one off. But even though it is to a lesser degree than that great blight on humanity Prometheus, when I think about Res being an actual Alien movie it starts to raise my blood pressure.
Quote from: SM on Apr 29, 2024, 10:13:18 PMFrom memory even JPJ thought the brain thing might be a bit too OTT, but it got a good reaction from a test audience so they left it in.
Probably brought back the same test audience that wanted to see an egg on the Sulaco all those years earlier.
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Apr 29, 2024, 01:14:24 PMMe too. Oh and he also talk about the famous blowjob Weaver gave to the inner mouth of a xeno... I'm sure most of us already knew about it. It was filmed, they sent it to the studio and apparently it amused him very much to do so because he knew they would not allow it to be in the final cut.
Would be awesome if footage of that existed.
I agree about the dreamy aspect of the movie being very cool - Ripley "coming to life", etc, very well shot. There are a lot of great scenes in A:R but a few other things detract from it. I still like it better than most it seems. Sigourney's acting is A+ as usual just for starters.
Quote from: SM on Apr 29, 2024, 10:13:18 PMFrom memory even JPJ thought the brain thing might be a bit too OTT, but it got a good reaction from a test audience so they left it in.
These days all I can see is the Alien just ... standing there behind him, breathing heavily like a God-damned creep.
Quote from: SiL on May 03, 2024, 03:51:02 AMThese days all I can see is the Alien just ... standing there behind him, breathing heavily like a God-damned creep.
All xenomorph are creeps.
Ask Lambert
I've always been intrigued as to what happened to the dude with Perez at that point. Before he ultimately carked it I mean.
Hopefully he ran. The Alien was clearly distracted.
I'm sure an alien grabbed him by his shoulder hair and dragged him back to the nest.
Yeah funny how the alien kept contemplating his work on Perez, not giving two shits about the dude close to him :laugh:
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Apr 29, 2024, 01:14:24 PMMe too. Oh and he also talk about the famous blowjob Weaver gave to the inner mouth of a xeno... I'm sure most of us already knew about it. It was filmed, they sent it to the studio and apparently it amused him very much to do so because he knew they would not allow it to be in the final cut.
The WHAT scene?! :o I didn't know about that one?! :o
Well I suggest you don't type "Sigourney Weaver blowjob alien" like I did to try finding an article about that, bad idea.
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on May 04, 2024, 12:18:15 AMWell I suggest you don't type "Sigourney Weaver blowjob alien" like I did to try finding an article about that, bad idea.
Well, I remembered there was a scene where in alien resurrection, The newborn alien would've had the "Male Organ" but The creators of that movie Thought it would've been too much. I actually did try to make a meme and posted it On the meme thread, but I thought it would've been too inappropriate. It was basically putting a censored bar on the newborn alien.
They made it. They had to edit it out with VFX.
Yeah stills of it are common and there's an enhancement pod on blu-ray about it.
Original plan was for it to try and root Ripley.
I've seen it, it's weird as f**k.