Posted by Perfect-Organism
- Mar 13, 2015, 07:14:23 PMQuote from: Born Of Cold Light on Mar 13, 2015, 03:32:49 AM
Having documentary-style parts could be awesome if done right and something new for the Alien series.
I think this cinematic device of Blomkamp's was already quite tired by the time Chappie rolled around. He was doing these "interviews" at the beginning which made me go, aw no, not again...
I consider Prometheus to be part of the Aliens series and there was a bit of documentary-style use of the astronauts' cameras. It didn't go beyond this. Also, we got to see some footage from the helmet-cams in Aliens. So the documentary-style is not totally alien to the Aliens universe. But this was not even close to the documentary style of Blomkamp.
Posted by Born Of Cold Light
- Mar 13, 2015, 03:32:49 AMHaving documentary-style parts could be awesome if done right and something new for the Alien series.
Posted by Nightmare Asylum
- Mar 13, 2015, 03:22:35 AMQuote from: Intrepid-Traveler on Mar 13, 2015, 12:47:50 AM
Really can't think of any cons, other than he might try to change Alien life cycle design with new creatures/designs like that toothy facehugger.
If you're talking about the snake creature in the art, that's essentially Hammerpede concept art from Doug Williams.
Posted by Intrepid-Traveler
- Mar 13, 2015, 12:47:50 AMReally can't think of any cons, other than he might try to change Alien life cycle design with new creatures/designs like that toothy facehugger.
Posted by Le Celticant
- Mar 13, 2015, 12:42:12 AMPros:
1) Has interesting conceptual ideas.
2) Works with WETA.
Cons:
1) Bad at directing (has nothing that makes him stand apart beside his sci-fi universe, I couldn't tell it's a film from him if he ever do a middle age comedy, he looks like the average common director while I could easily spot a Kubrick's film).
2) Bad at writing.
3) Always over-think with VFX & SFX giving very poor photographic shot.
4) Never develop anything giving almost no substance to think about after beside story holes.
5) Too action orientated for an Alien film (again).
6) ala Ridley Scott, he'll likely make an "epic scale" alien film speaking about origins, further bio-weapons theory and blablabla which I don't want to. I don't get it why they never tried to go small again for the Alien licences and always had to try to make it look bigger, larger and more epic.
1) Has interesting conceptual ideas.
2) Works with WETA.
Cons:
1) Bad at directing (has nothing that makes him stand apart beside his sci-fi universe, I couldn't tell it's a film from him if he ever do a middle age comedy, he looks like the average common director while I could easily spot a Kubrick's film).
2) Bad at writing.
3) Always over-think with VFX & SFX giving very poor photographic shot.
4) Never develop anything giving almost no substance to think about after beside story holes.
5) Too action orientated for an Alien film (again).
6) ala Ridley Scott, he'll likely make an "epic scale" alien film speaking about origins, further bio-weapons theory and blablabla which I don't want to. I don't get it why they never tried to go small again for the Alien licences and always had to try to make it look bigger, larger and more epic.
Posted by marrerom
- Mar 12, 2015, 09:26:09 PMQuote from: The Eighth Passenger on Mar 12, 2015, 04:08:47 PMQuote from: marrerom on Mar 10, 2015, 02:53:06 AM
Con:
3) each film he's made has been worse then the last.Quote from: marrerom on Mar 11, 2015, 02:38:30 AM
I just saw it [Chappie] and I really liked it. Its his second best film and it has given me more confidence in his ability to create Alien 5
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Just to be clear, I made the list of Blomkamp's pro's and con's before I saw Chappie. Although I personally like it, Chappie is getting destroyed by the critics and is under performing at the box office.
Posted by aliennaire
- Mar 12, 2015, 09:11:53 PMQuote from: Perfect-Organism on Mar 12, 2015, 02:54:03 AMThat stroke me too! Has it been more balanced in ambiance tone, inter-cutting clean and dirty sceneries, I'd appreciate it better. Elysium has the balance in that relation.
As a con, hmmm, well sometimes his films get a bit too gross. I just couldn't stand the squalor and grossness of D9 but I guess it was par for the course.
My two cents to Pros: Neill knows how to engage audience from the very beginning/opening titles
to Cons: Ending might not live up to the promised intense narration and wrap up generically, third act is his weak spot.
The Eighth Passenger, you have my compliments for your banner signature
Posted by Ash 937
- Mar 12, 2015, 06:18:51 PMThe "hybrid" element of Alien: Resurrection is very similar to District 9. I think we will get a reinterpretation of some of the ideas Alien: Resurrection except that they will be shot "documentary style" for the first half of the film.
Posted by Xenomorphine
- Mar 12, 2015, 06:08:43 PMQuote from: Perfect-Organism on Mar 12, 2015, 02:54:03 AM
I think I haven't read anywhere here yet about the portrayal of "The Company" in Chappie. Blomkamp struck the perfect balance of characteristics which the company had to make it evil, yet not evil. There were no evil motivations in the company. They were behaving like every corporation out there, and yet they were evil.
Yeah, that surprised me. I'd disagree that the company was evil, though.
Weaver's character was literally saying, "Hey, we've got a good thing here, don't screw it up." Leagues better - and more understandable - than Jodie Foster's portrayal. Am hoping this is the angle which is stuck with: Opportunists just doing the sensible thing and trying to make a profit.The only thing I didn't understand was that the 'Moose' was being pitched to police, instead of militaries, even though the film early pointed out the company was attracting and courting much military interest. It didn't destroy the film's entertainment value, at all, but it did perplex me.
Regardless, I'm hoping that the clean documentary style isn't a part of this. Remove that and this is a project I'm actually looking forward to now.
Posted by 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔈𝔦𝔤𝔥𝔱𝔥 𝔓𝔞𝔰𝔰𝔢𝔫𝔤𝔢𝔯
- Mar 12, 2015, 04:08:47 PMQuote from: marrerom on Mar 10, 2015, 02:53:06 AM
Con:
3) each film he's made has been worse then the last.
Quote from: marrerom on Mar 11, 2015, 02:38:30 AM
I just saw it [Chappie] and I really liked it. Its his second best film and it has given me more confidence in his ability to create Alien 5
Posted by Local Trouble
- Mar 12, 2015, 03:46:43 PMWeyland-Yutani should be monolithic and amoral, yet make a token effort at keeping up the appearance of caring. Kinda like how Burke started off as "an okay guy" until Ripley started to dig.
Posted by whiterabbit
- Mar 12, 2015, 05:55:42 AMQuote from: marrerom on Mar 10, 2015, 02:53:06 AMSummed it up damn well. Plus Blomkamp seems to be one sadistic director, this movie will probably rock if he hires a decent writer.
Pro:
1) Excellent directing of action scenes and "world creation".
2) Ability to attract A list actors to his films.
3) Very good eye for special effects work.
Con:
1) bad at writing yet insists on writing his own scripts.
2) gets carried away with "concepts" and loses focus on creating decent characters.
3) each film he's made has been worse then the last.
Posted by Perfect-Organism
- Mar 12, 2015, 02:54:03 AMI think I haven't read anywhere here yet about the portrayal of "The Company" in Chappie. Blomkamp struck the perfect balance of characteristics which the company had to make it evil, yet not evil. There were no evil motivations in the company. They were behaving like every corporation out there, and yet they were evil. I think this sort of balanced approach is the way that Weyland-Yutani should be represented as. I've said this before in another thread, W-Y is actually doing something good. They are trying to get humanity to study an Alien species for the purpose of humanity's defense W-Y weapons division. If W-Y has any records of what happened on LV-223, then it is imperative that we know as much about the aliens as possible. Anybody who ever read "Art of War" knows that W-Y's research is invaluable, perhaps to the extent that "crew may even be expendable". We're talking about the survival of our species.
I digress, but I just think the way BK portrayed MNU and the company in Chappie bodes well for how he will present W-Y.
Also, his love of the first 2 films makes him exactly the man I want in the director's chair. I don't need any half-assery.
As a con, hmmm, well sometimes his films get a bit too gross. I just couldn't stand the squalor and grossness of D9 but I guess it was par for the course.
I digress, but I just think the way BK portrayed MNU and the company in Chappie bodes well for how he will present W-Y.
Also, his love of the first 2 films makes him exactly the man I want in the director's chair. I don't need any half-assery.
As a con, hmmm, well sometimes his films get a bit too gross. I just couldn't stand the squalor and grossness of D9 but I guess it was par for the course.
Posted by Deacs1973
- Mar 12, 2015, 12:34:52 AMPro's
we get Aliens (Xenomorphs)
Cons
we might get Engineers
we get Aliens (Xenomorphs)
Cons
we might get Engineers
Posted by Samus007
- Mar 11, 2015, 01:04:29 PMQuote from: marrerom on Mar 10, 2015, 02:53:06 AM
Pro:
1) Excellent directing of action scenes and "world creation".
2) Ability to attract A list actors to his films.
3) Very good eye for special effects work.
Con:
1) bad at writing yet insists on writing his own scripts.
2) gets carried away with "concepts" and loses focus on creating decent characters.
3) each film he's made has been worse then the last.
Yes to this. I really REALLY hope he gets some writing help and together he and the writing team can nail down an excellent movie.
