QuoteGuy Pearce plays Peter Weyland in Prometheus?
Hungarian movie website FilmSite.hu has posted an article today with a quote from Prometheus director Ridley Scott, giving more insight to the connection between Prometheus and the original Alien.
The article is in Hungarian, and unfortunately Google translate doesn't seem to tackle Hungarian all too well. However, using a couple of extra translators I've managed to more or less make sense of the quote:
"When the first 'Alien' movie and 'Blade Runner' were made, I thought that in the near future the world will be owned by large companies. This is why we have the Tyrell Corporation in 'Blade Runner', and Weyland-Yutani in 'Alien'. They sent the Nostromo spaceship.
The Prometheus is owned by an entrepreneur called Peter Weyland, and is played by Guy Pearce. That's the connection between the two films, and nothing more. Prometheus is a new film, a new world, and is full of new ideas. And of course new monsters as well."
FilmSite.hu quotes IC Press as their source, but there's no mention of where or when Sir Ridley made this quote nor any other sources backing it up yet, so please take this info with a little bit of salt for the time being...
http://www.alienprequelnews.com/ (http://www.alienprequelnews.com/)
It seems obvious that Weyland owns the Prometheus, considering his insignia is all over the crew uniforms etc. Anyhow, discuss!
That's pretty damn interesting. Bit strange saying that the only connection between the two films is the name Weyland, when we obviously know there are a few more connections also. But, still interesting.
I love hearing Alien and Blade Runner referred to in the same context, as if they are part of the same franchise. I've always liked to see it that way.
Seems to suggest Guy is probably up for another 3 minute wonder part.
I thought the lack of him might have meant he was the Engineer but it probably just means theres a lack of him period.
Quote"The Prometheus is owned by an entrepreneur called Peter Weyland, and is played by Guy Pearce. That's the connection between the two films, and nothing more."
Granted of course that this is an actual quote from Scott, I'm getting really tired of his blatantly untrue diminishing of ALIEN's role in all this. Oh, yeah, Ridley? I guess the Space Jockey race, their ship, and the interior padded spaceship design of the Prometheus are all just coincidence? ::)
Can't wait to see Guy Pearce in the upcoming Luc Besson sci-fi film "Lockout".
"What happenned in that hotel room"...
Guy Pearce: "It was coupon night, and I was trapolining your wife". LOL ;D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ax2ts7PGpNE#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ax2ts7PGpNE#ws)
I remember when watching the Prometheus Trailer you can see other Alien related stuff like Space Jockies, derelict alien spacecraft.
Now Peter Weyland was confirmed.
^ Invasion of the Bodysnatchers, aye! Though my fav is the first one, but I like them all except The Invasion...
Very interesting. Can't wait to see how this plays out in film.
New monsters!!
Oh boy
Quote from: Infected on Feb 25, 2012, 09:58:45 PM
New monsters!!
Oh boy
That was the best bit,i hope he wasn't referring to space mutants though >:(
Space mutants, depending on how they are handled, could turn out really cool.
I'm thinking something along the lines of Halo's Flood. On the surface, they are just that: Zombies in space. But if you delve deeper and learn more about them (or just play Halo 2 :P ) you will learn so much more. Not very generic, lots of cool backstory, the possibility for intelligence, and cool looking designs!
Space mutants can work. They just need to step away from the whole "zombie in space" thing and bring it in a new direction.
Guy pearce being Peter Weyland would make sense, he also stated that his role was very small, so it all fits together. Scott is really trying to distance prometheus from alien as much as possible, he must have his reasons and he has been honest with us so far, not unless it's a misquote or mis-translated.
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Feb 25, 2012, 10:13:17 PM
Space mutants can work. They just need to step away from the whole "zombie in space" thing and bring it in a new direction.
They never made a step towards it. The space zombies/mutants is fan-talk. We don't know what we're getting yet.
Quote from: Valaquen on Feb 25, 2012, 10:26:04 PM
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Feb 25, 2012, 10:13:17 PM
Space mutants can work. They just need to step away from the whole "zombie in space" thing and bring it in a new direction.
They never made a step towards it. The space zombies/mutants is fan-talk. We don't know what we're getting yet.
I know that. I just meant the concept in general :)
More than one species of monster?
YeSYeSYeS :)
so does this retcons AvP?
Quote from: Game_Over_Man on Feb 25, 2012, 11:01:25 PM
More than one species of monster?
YeSYeSYeS :)
Why does everyone on these boards assume Prometheus is a 'monster-movie'?
Quote from: Glaive on Feb 25, 2012, 11:36:23 PM
Quote from: Game_Over_Man on Feb 25, 2012, 11:01:25 PM
More than one species of monster?
YeSYeSYeS :)
Why does everyone on these boards assume Prometheus is a 'monster-movie'?
Well, it may not be a monster movie in the general sense of the term, but based on what Ridley said, it seems that creatures will play at least some role.
Come on guys - the leaked first trailer had enough slithering to suggest there's something non human lurking in the shadows lol
Quote from: chupacabras acheronsis on Feb 25, 2012, 11:12:29 PM
so does this retcons AvP?
In what way? I suppose we can assume that Charles Weyland had at least one child before his demise, if so, then Peter Weyland must be his grandson or something.
Isn't Guy Pearce's name all over the posters? Kind of weird, for a small cameo.
Quote from: MrSpaceJockey on Feb 26, 2012, 12:39:00 AM
Isn't Guy Pearce's name all over the posters? Kind of weird, for a small cameo.
He's a bigger name than other members of the cast.
Weyland isn't the only connection, that must of been a bungle in the translation.
-Chris
I know, but its a bit shady, isn't it? If he really is in the film "for a minute."
And I quick comparison mock-up:
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg855.imageshack.us%2Fimg855%2F2168%2Fpeterweyland.png&hash=cc4ca32201bf44080a5702fa68255b52ada3b93c)
Please Prometheus, please, rub AVP and Paul Anderson's silliness out of existence...
Quote from: Valaquen on Feb 26, 2012, 01:00:34 AM
Please Prometheus, please, rub AVP and Paul Anderson's silliness out of existence...
Seconded, times a thousand.
It seems quite hard to track down these IC Press people...
IC might stand for InterCom (http://www.intercom.hu). They are the largest Hungarian distributor of movies. Their clients include Twentieth Century Fox Home Entertainment, Sony Pictures and Buena Vista Home Entertainment. Apparently they send out newsletters to Hungarian movie sites from time to time and are usually credited as IC Press. That's all I dug up for now.
Quote from: MrSpaceJockey on Feb 26, 2012, 12:58:35 AM
I know, but its a bit shady, isn't it? If he really is in the film "for a minute."
And I quick comparison mock-up:
http://img855.imageshack.us/img855/2168/peterweyland.png
I'm... not seeing a resemblance here.
Quote from: ChrisPachi on Feb 26, 2012, 12:57:52 AM
Weyland isn't the only connection, that must of been a bungle in the translation.
-Chris
NOW we're talking!!!... (http://www.scotthammond.co.uk/uploads/rainbow_bungle_800.jpg)
Quote from: Glaive on Feb 26, 2012, 01:18:02 AM
Quote from: ChrisPachi on Feb 26, 2012, 12:57:52 AM
Weyland isn't the only connection, that must of been a bungle in the translation.
-Chris
NOW we're talking!!!... (http://www.scotthammond.co.uk/uploads/rainbow_bungle_800.jpg)
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Obviously there's more then just a name connection. Space Jockey, a Derelict class ship, Gigers influence...something was mistranslated.
damn, did i not call this one right months ago and get shot down in flames for it?..lol
http://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/index.php?topic=40324.msg1210951 (http://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/index.php?topic=40324.msg1210951)
admittedly i did guess he would be charles weyland but i was assuming they would stick with the already established one, but also said he would be a weyland the company boss if not charles.
thanks
rich
Quote from: RICH-ENGLAND on Feb 26, 2012, 02:08:13 AM
damn, did i not call this one right months ago and get shot down in flames for it?..lol
http://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/index.php?topic=40324.msg1210951 (http://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/index.php?topic=40324.msg1210951)
admittedly i did guess he would be charles weyland but i was assuming they would stick with the already established one, but also said he would be a weyland the company boss if not charles.
thanks
rich
But how could he be
Charles Weyland? Charles Weyland died in Alien vs Predator, which played out years and years before Prometheus in the timeline...
This makes more sense, and it is a welcome addition that we get more backstory and substance to the movie than the first few scenes showing the Prometheus ship and the crew and we have no clue what brought them there.
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Feb 25, 2012, 09:57:42 PM
Very interesting. Can't wait to see how this plays out in film.
Really? I can think of quite a few things more interesting than who funds the mission.
Quote from: ThisBethesdaSea on Feb 26, 2012, 01:47:03 AM
Obviously there's more then just a name connection. Space Jockey, a Derelict class ship, Gigers influence...something was mistranslated.
Besides the fans i dont think the "normal" folks even remember a space jockey being in the Alien movie.
It boggles my mind that AVP is even being brought up here
This really clears things up...
now we even know what the connecting plot point is with the first alien movie...
I'm ready for Sir Scott's new universe, bring it on :)
Quote from: m138jewski on Feb 26, 2012, 11:42:07 AM
It boggles my mind that AVP is even being brought up here
This guy can read my mind. I didn't use boggle though.
The only connection? Yeah, sure ::). How about, oh I don't know, the freakin' Derelict?!
I wonder if Peter Weyland is Australian the same as Pearce?
I wonder will Idris Elba will be using an English or American accent?
I wonder how truely international the cast will be portrayed.
Why can't Ridley just be straight on whether this film is and Alien Prequel or not?
what if.........
01. This is not the same planet as alien
02. This is not the same deralict as in alien
03. The parasite that lives in the sj is not the same as the one in alien
04. the sj is not the same one that is in alien
05. none of the crew or distant relations are connected to anybody in alien.......apart from the company boss
06. A egg , facehugger , chestburster or fully grown xeno is not mentioned or seen
can somebody please explain to me how this is going to be a prequel?????
please allow me to clear this up for you all real quick........
ready..........drum roll..............brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
bram stokers dracula is not a prequel to blade trinity :)
instead of seeing one room in the deralict we will see many.
instead of a dead sj in a chair we will see one with his head cut off.
instead of chestbursters we will get headbursters :P ( my thinking for why they find a sj with his head cut off)
instead of one monster we will get a few :P
instead of one survivor we will get none :)
just some thoughts........
Quote from: PrometheusFire on Feb 26, 2012, 07:16:57 PM
what if.........
01. This is not the same planet as alien
02. This is not the same deralict as in alien
03. The parasite that lives in the sj is not the same as the one in alien
04. the sj is not the same one that is in alien
05. none of the crew or distant relations are connected to anybody in alien.......apart from the company boss
06. A egg , facehugger , chestburster or fully grown xeno is not mentioned or seen
can somebody please explain to me how this is going to be a prequel?????
please allow me to clear this up for you all real quick........
ready..........drum roll..............brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
bram stokers dracula is not a prequel to blade trinity :)
instead of seeing one room in the deralict we will see many.
instead of a dead sj in a chair we will see one with his head cut off.
instead of chestbursters we will get headbursters :P ( my thinking for why they find a sj with his head cut off)
instead of one monster we will get a few :P
instead of one survivor we will get none :)
just some thoughts........
While not a direct prequel, that doesn't negate it from linking to Alien somehow. Could be something as simple as Weyland, or as big as an Alien, we just don't know yet, and probably won't until we see the film for ourselves.
i think the term.........''companion piece''........will be alot more fitting :)
Quote from: PrometheusFire on Feb 26, 2012, 07:34:56 PM
i think the term.........''companion piece''........will be alot more fitting :)
That's just semantics. :)
Quote from: predxeno on Feb 26, 2012, 06:54:49 PM
Why can't Ridley just be straight on whether this film is and Alien Prequel or not?
It is, it's not exactly a big secret.
Quote from: PrometheusFire on Feb 26, 2012, 07:16:57 PM
can somebody please explain to me how this is going to be a prequel?????
pre·quel
nouna literary or dramatic work whose story precedes that of an earlier-written work.
Just because it's not "the adventures of young Ripley" doesn't mean it's not a prequel.
Quotebram stokers dracula is not a prequel to blade trinity :)
No, because Dracula was written
first. The Blade trilogy
can, however, be viewed as a
sequel to Dracula, as the events of that book form part of the history of Blade's world, as well as Dracula actually featuring in the third film.
It's a story set in the same fictional Universe that ALIEN is set in. The timeline is before the first ALIEN movie. The end of this movie is not the beginning of Alien but things that happen in Prometheus will relate to Alien.
For example we might not see the creation of the ALIENS and the EGGS in Prometheus, but we may be given information in the course of the movie that will allow us to create a reasonable and plausible theory in our minds to how they came about.
This is really exciting stuff. Obviously, this is a prequel but it will stand alone and still tie in some of the back-story of ALIEN. To be honest, as much I love ALIEN/ALIENS, it will be really cool to see new stuff in the same Universe created by Ridley. He's giving us the best of both worlds, something completely new and cool with big tie-ins to ALIEN. Obviously, I think he's doing a little misdirect here. I don't think he or the producers want to advertise this as ALIEN V. I won't be disappointed if the Xeno ends up not making an appearance. Still, I am willing to bet that there will be more than what we know now (related to the Xeno) that will be in Prometheus. It is amazing that here we are, almost March and still no major leaks. I think that is pretty amazing in this digital age and given the excitement over this film. I'm thinking that we will see a lot of new clips and pics in March though.
I get what everybody is saying, I'm just complaining a little that when asked directly on whether or not this film is a prequel, Ridley doesn't give a straight yes or no but instead goes on saying that Guy Pierce is Peter Weyland and that that's the only connection or whatnot. He also claims that this film is set in "a new world" which doesn't help the concept that this is a film taking place in the Alien universe which isn't exactly brand new.
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs11.bdbphotos.com%2Fimages%2Forig%2Fi%2Fd%2Fidf8foqjhpnenpq.jpg&hash=c6f140041a9eedfa8cacab948346f9e24acd1978)
"world" as in plotline and themes explored. its a diferent kind of journey and a new look of that universe.
Ridley also claims that Peter Weyland is the only link to the Alien films, but what about the Derelict and the Space Jockeys?
I'm anxious to see where Scott is taking this (and I hope it's a very, VERY good place) and I'm excited for the new creatures, but I know I'm not alone when I say I was REALLY hoping he was going to save our favorite bio mechanical organism from the short, dimwitted, pathetically weak, cannon fodder of a mess we now have.
I have to say I'm not too pleased with the overall new bio mechanical look in Prometheus, either. It looks more cybernetic than bio mechanical. You can tell everything is made from some sort of alloy whereas, in the original ALIEN, it looked as though it were made from the bones taken from some bizarre creature. THAT is bio mechanical. The new look is lacking that Giger feel. And that bothers me. A lot.
Quote from: deuterium on Feb 25, 2012, 08:58:10 PM
Can't wait to see Guy Pearce in the upcoming Luc Besson sci-fi film "Lockout".
"What happenned in that hotel room"...
Guy Pearce: "It was coupon night, and I was trapolining your wife". LOL ;D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ax2ts7PGpNE#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ax2ts7PGpNE#ws)
f**king. Awesome. :laugh:
Quote from: Valaquen on Feb 26, 2012, 01:00:34 AM
Please Prometheus, please, rub AVP and Paul Anderson's silliness out of existence...
Oh God yes. That, and the bombastic shite spawned by the unholy "Brothers Strause".
Just noticed we got mentioned on IGN for this. :laugh:
chupacabras acheronsis, it looks like you re-posted.
Quote from: Xenodog on Feb 26, 2012, 10:59:59 PM
Just noticed we got mentioned on IGN for this. :laugh:
Really? :o Do you have a link?
Quote from: predxeno on Feb 26, 2012, 11:01:59 PM
chupacabras acheronsis, it looks like you re-posted.
Quote from: Xenodog on Feb 26, 2012, 10:59:59 PM
Just noticed we got mentioned on IGN for this. :laugh:
Really? :o Do you have a link?
http://movies.ign.com/articles/121/1219476p1.html (http://movies.ign.com/articles/121/1219476p1.html)
"G'day, Peytah Weyland ere. If ya lackin forah Spahace-Crift fuh Intahstellah contahct with OILIENS, den lack naw bladdy ferther mate. guz I gottem, right ere, right niiiiiiiiiiow, sheepest in bladdy tohwn"
This is me hoping that Peter Weyland is Australian.
I don't think Ridley variating on the ALIEN theme in terms of the 'Giger look and feel' is bad whatsoever. Why do we need a repeat of the exact same look of the first film? Why do the original alien creatures need to show up for us to be excited about this film? I want something different, familiar yet in a fresh direction. If some of you want every aesthetic that Scott presented to us in A L I E N then I Implore you, go watch ALIEN.
Quote from: predxeno on Feb 26, 2012, 09:57:59 PMRidley also claims that Peter Weyland is the only link to the Alien films, but what about the Derelict and the Space Jockeys?
Scott has either been completely mis-quoted/translated, didn't actually say anything of the sort at all or is talking straight out of his ass (as he has been known to do). If the latter, this is just the same smoke and mirrors bullshit that has surrounded this film since the beginning, only with this latest quote we know that Scott (or his press department) is talking complete and utter rubbish.
We shouldn't even be debating this. It is misinformation.
-Chris
Ridley is pretty funny. He's so stuck in his ways, constant poker face. But when he's pressed on an issue he'll spill like in this interview:
EGE: So you are linking this directly with the Alien films?
RS: Not at all.
EGE: Not at all?
RS: No.
EGE: No?
RS: I mean, you could actually say, and there's a quote I did, a pretty good quote: By the end of the third act you start to realize there's a DNA of the very first alien, but none of the subsequent aliens. To tell you what that is is a pity, and I'm not going to tell you, because it's actually pretty good, pretty organic to the process and to the original. But we go back, we don't go forward.
EGE: The official synopsis from Fox says that this revolves around the "Alien Gods", the "Space Jockey" from the first film.
RS: Yeah, so there you have that. I was always amazed that, I mean, I've only done two science-fictions, but I was always amazed that no one asked who the hell the Space Jockey was. He wasn't even called the Space Jockey. During the film they started to call it the Space Jockey. I don't know who started that one off. I always thought it was amazing that no one ever asked who he was, and why was he there? What was all that about? I sat thinking about this for a while and thought, well, there's a story! And the other four [films] missed it! So, here it is.
"but I was always amazed that no one asked who the hell the Space Jockey was."
Well seems he lives in an alternate reality at all :laugh:
Quote from: DiabloGuapo on Feb 26, 2012, 02:14:37 PM
The only connection? Yeah, sure ::). How about, oh I don't know, the freakin' Derelict?!
LMFAO!!!!!
Quote from: tmjhur on Feb 27, 2012, 12:47:48 PM
RS: Yeah, so there you have that. I was always amazed that, I mean, I've only done two science-fictions, but I was always amazed that no one asked who the hell the Space Jockey was. He wasn't even called the Space Jockey. During the film they started to call it the Space Jockey. I don't know who started that one off. I always thought it was amazing that no one ever asked who he was, and why was he there? What was all that about? I sat thinking about this for a while and thought, well, there's a story! And the other four [films] missed it! So, here it is.[/i]
Clearly, he didn't read Aliens Original Sin.
Quote from: Never say no to Panda! on Feb 27, 2012, 12:50:11 PM
"but I was always amazed that no one asked who the hell the Space Jockey was."
Well seems he lives in an alternate reality at all :laugh:
My thinking, here, is that Sir Ridley was speaking to "John Q. Public" and the unwashed masses ;D
I suspect he knew that it was one of the most discussed and debated issue within "fandom".
But, of course, I could be wrong.
Interesting, I dare say that this takes places before Weyland merges with Yutani?This movie must explain why the future W-Y company is so intent on getting the Alien because this is how they must of supposedly learned of the xenos. Peter Weyland could be the ancestor to Charles Bishop?
Quote from: KirklandSignature on Feb 27, 2012, 05:21:12 PM
Peter Weyland could be the ancestor to Charles Bishop?
No, the other way around.
This is from back when it was an ALIEN PREQUEL. A lot of the plot and themes have obviously changed :laugh:
MTV: Since this is a prequel, will you need to make the ships more primitive-looking than in "Alien"?
Scott: It's set in 2085, about 30 years before Sigourney [Weaver's character Ellen Ripley]. It's fundamentally about going out to find out 'Who the hell was that Space Jockey?'
MTV: And is the Weyland-Yutani company in existence at this point?
Scott: It's Weyland. Weyland hasn't joined Yutani yet, so they go and see Weyland. [The film] is about the discussion of terraforming — taking planets and planetoids and balls of earth and trying to terraform, seed them with the possibilities of future life.
Quote from: tmjhur on Feb 27, 2012, 06:07:09 PM
MTV: And is the Weyland-Yutani company in existence at this point?
Scott: It's Weyland. Weyland hasn't joined Yutani yet, so they go and see Weyland.
Well, this seems to have stuck.
Quote from: LarsVader on Feb 27, 2012, 05:31:15 PM
Quote from: KirklandSignature on Feb 27, 2012, 05:21:12 PM
Peter Weyland could be the ancestor to Charles Bishop?
No, the other way around.
I wonder who has more power in the company; Peter Weyland or Karl Bishop Weyland?
It's gonna be crazy when at the end Guy Pearce pulls off his mask and he's actually a XENOMORPH. Ridley mentions that in the interview too.
Quote from: predxeno on Feb 27, 2012, 06:21:03 PM
Quote from: LarsVader on Feb 27, 2012, 05:31:15 PM
Quote from: KirklandSignature on Feb 27, 2012, 05:21:12 PM
Peter Weyland could be the ancestor to Charles Bishop?
No, the other way around.
I wonder who has more power in the company; Peter Weyland or Karl Bishop Weyland?
Ridley wouldn't even know who Karl Bishop Weyland was.
so now that guy has been confirmed as weyland, do we think this also confirms the rumoured scene of weyland and david on a yacht/boat at the beginning and david being weylands butler?.
thanks
rich
Quote from: LarsVader on Feb 27, 2012, 05:31:15 PM
Quote from: KirklandSignature on Feb 27, 2012, 05:21:12 PM
Peter Weyland could be the ancestor to Charles Bishop?
No, the other way around.
Peter Weyland would come before Charles B since this movie takes place 30 years before Alien(which Bishop appears in). Bishop is likely the nephew or cousin of Peter Weyland.
Quote from: KirklandSignature on Feb 27, 2012, 07:03:11 PM
Quote from: LarsVader on Feb 27, 2012, 05:31:15 PM
Quote from: KirklandSignature on Feb 27, 2012, 05:21:12 PM
Peter Weyland could be the ancestor to Charles Bishop?
No, the other way around.
Peter Weyland would come before Charles B since this movie takes place 30 years before Alien(which Bishop appears in). Bishop is likely the nephew or cousin of Peter Weyland.
I was thinking of the AVP guy.
Quote from: LarsVader on Feb 27, 2012, 07:12:44 PM
Quote from: KirklandSignature on Feb 27, 2012, 07:03:11 PM
Quote from: LarsVader on Feb 27, 2012, 05:31:15 PM
Quote from: KirklandSignature on Feb 27, 2012, 05:21:12 PM
Peter Weyland could be the ancestor to Charles Bishop?
No, the other way around.
Peter Weyland would come before Charles B since this movie takes place 30 years before Alien(which Bishop appears in). Bishop is likely the nephew or cousin of Peter Weyland.
I was thinking of the AVP guy.
It's Charles Bishop Weyland in Alien vs Predator
It's Peter Weyland in Prometheus
It's Bishop the Synthetic Person in Aliens (and also Alien3)
It's Michael Bishop At the end of Alien3
It's Rook, the Synthetic Person in Aliens: Colonial Marines
It's Karl Bishop Weyland in Aliens vs Predator (the 2010 video game)
Quote from: HybridNewborn on Feb 27, 2012, 07:39:35 PM
Quote from: LarsVader on Feb 27, 2012, 07:12:44 PM
Quote from: KirklandSignature on Feb 27, 2012, 07:03:11 PM
Quote from: LarsVader on Feb 27, 2012, 05:31:15 PM
Quote from: KirklandSignature on Feb 27, 2012, 05:21:12 PM
Peter Weyland could be the ancestor to Charles Bishop?
No, the other way around.
Peter Weyland would come before Charles B since this movie takes place 30 years before Alien(which Bishop appears in). Bishop is likely the nephew or cousin of Peter Weyland.
I was thinking of the AVP guy.
It's Charles Bishop Weyland in Alien vs Predator
It's Peter Weyland in Prometheus
It's Bishop the Synthetic Person in Aliens (and also Alien3)
It's Michael Bishop At the end of Alien3
It's Rook, the Synthetic Person in Aliens: Colonial Marines
It's Karl Bishop Weyland in Aliens vs Predator (the 2010 video game)
And it's Peter Bishop in Fringe.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Feb 27, 2012, 06:34:50 PM
Ridley wouldn't even know who Karl Bishop Weyland was.
I was referring to the continuity between all the films as opposed to what Ridley knew.
Quote from: bunnyavpg on Feb 27, 2012, 07:57:12 PM
And it's Peter Bishop in Fringe.
I was thinking of Peter Bishop as well when I heard the name Peter Weyland.
This forum has gotten really boring. I'm sorry, but it has. It can't just be me who feels this way can it?
I kinda feel it, too, but there are always a small number of topics that keep me interested.
Quote from: deuterium on Feb 27, 2012, 04:59:17 PM
My thinking, here, is that Sir Ridley was speaking to "John Q. Public" and the unwashed masses ;D
I suspect he knew that it was one of the most discussed and debated issue within "fandom".
That's right, he does know, which is why his latest comment (if legit) shows complete contempt for the fan-base. His statement that the only link between the two films is the company who owns the spaceships is a balls-out lie. Either he doesn't know that the trailer was even released, is so senile that he can't remember what he did or said yesterday or thinks that his fans are all such morons as to swallow any horseshit that comes out his mouth.
So far I have been sucked in pretty badly by all of the secrecy, but this crap is getting on the nerves. I understand that they want to keep the debate raging for as long as they can, but its getting stupid now. There's are good chance that most of the spin about this film has been bullshit all along, especially in light of this latest contradiction from the man in charge.
-Chris
i see the great alien fanbase is already dividing...........soon we will reveal ourselves to the jedi, soon we will have our revenge.......:)
Quote from: ChrisPachi on Feb 28, 2012, 12:17:38 AM
Quote from: deuterium on Feb 27, 2012, 04:59:17 PM
My thinking, here, is that Sir Ridley was speaking to "John Q. Public" and the unwashed masses ;D
I suspect he knew that it was one of the most discussed and debated issue within "fandom".
That's right, he does know, which is why his latest comment (if legit) shows complete contempt for the fan-base. His statement that the only link between the two films is the company who owns the spaceships is a balls-out lie. Either he doesn't know that the trailer was even released, is so senile that he can't remember what he did or said yesterday or thinks that his fans are all such morons as to swallow any horseshit that comes out his mouth.
So far I have been sucked in pretty badly by all of the secrecy, but this crap is getting on the nerves. I understand that they want to keep the debate raging for as long as they can, but its getting stupid now. There's are good chance that most of the spin about this film has been bullshit all along, especially in light of this latest contradiction from the man in charge.
-Chris
I wouldn't let it bother you to this extent. I feel that Ridley is being advised to play down the connection by Fox because whilst it's long been called a prequel it doesn't play to type the way most sequels/prequels do. He's not disrespecting anyone, he just giving out information to the general movie going public and probably thinking (via Fox advice) that he has to underplay A L I E N because of the sequels which are a more recent memory. At one time Ridley said that anyone who is a fan of A L I E N will recognise familiar things in Prometheus. He's also said it connects only with the first and doesn't have any connection with the sequels.
Just accept the subterfuge as part of the marketing game that he is having to play. It's true he wants it to be a mystery and for there to be plenty of new surprises - given that, why would he want to confirm anything that kills any suspense?
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Peter Weyland could be the ancestor to Charles Bishop?
No, the other way around.
Peter Weyland would come before Charles B since this movie takes place 30 years before Alien(which Bishop appears in). Bishop is likely the nephew or cousin of Peter Weyland.
I was thinking of the AVP guy.
It's Charles Bishop Weyland in Alien vs Predator
It's Peter Weyland in Prometheus
It's Bishop the Synthetic Person in Aliens (and also Alien3)
It's Michael Bishop At the end of Alien3
It's Rook, the Synthetic Person in Aliens: Colonial Marines
It's Karl Bishop Weyland in Aliens vs Predator (the 2010 video game)
And it's Peter Bishop in Fringe.
Where does this guy fit?
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Quote from: Gash on Feb 28, 2012, 01:32:16 AMI wouldn't let it bother you to this extent. I feel that Ridley is being advised to play down the connection by Fox because whilst it's long been called a prequel it doesn't play to type the way most sequels/prequels do.
Yes I understand all that and have been willing to think this way up until now, but the double-speak surrounding this movie has reached far past infuriating. I am surprised that there isn't more fan backlash against this ridiculous 'marketing' campaign. Maybe if there was we would finally get some intelligent commentary from the film makers.
-Chris
sounding more like bullshit.
http://www.prometheusforum.net/discussion/comment/5714#Comment_5714 (http://www.prometheusforum.net/discussion/comment/5714#Comment_5714)
Quote from: ChrisPachi on Feb 28, 2012, 02:45:06 AM
Quote from: Gash on Feb 28, 2012, 01:32:16 AMI wouldn't let it bother you to this extent. I feel that Ridley is being advised to play down the connection by Fox because whilst it's long been called a prequel it doesn't play to type the way most sequels/prequels do.
Yes I understand all that and have been willing to think this way up until now, but the double-speak surrounding this movie has reached far past infuriating. I am surprised that there isn't more fan backlash against this ridiculous 'marketing' campaign. Maybe if there was we would finally get some intelligent commentary from the film makers.
-Chris
You obviously haven't seen all the numerous topics that have been taken over by the "Is it a prequel or not?" debate, that exists
solely because of Scott's double-speak such as this.
Quote from: HybridNewborn on Feb 28, 2012, 06:17:58 AMYou obviously haven't seen all the numerous topics that have been taken over by the "Is it a prequel or not?" debate, that exists solely because of Scott's double-speak such as this.
Seen 'em, been involved in them. Hence my rage.
-Chris
That's why the discussion of this film has become so dull. People are still asking "ummmmmm sooooo is this an Alien Prequel". And if they got ON their arse, looked around the web for an hour and did some research they'd very easily come to the conclusion that is at least an ALIEN movie that is set before the first movie.
Are these people lazy or stupid or illogical or all of the above?
There are quotes from multiple actors in this movie saying that it is part of the ALIEN franchise.
So please do some independent research and come up with a new question to pose to people here or else don't type anything.
Quote from: tmjhur on Feb 28, 2012, 12:28:26 PM
Are these people lazy or stupid or illogical or all of the above?
There are quotes from multiple actors in this movie saying that it is part of the ALIEN franchise.
So please do some independent research and come up with a new question to pose to people here or else don't type anything.
I don't think that was ChrisPachi's point at all.
It's just been a frustrating couple of months since the trailer :-\
Quote from: Virgil_uk on Feb 28, 2012, 01:08:24 PM
It's just been a frustrating couple of months since the trailer :-\
My weekly rant is over here:
http://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/index.php?topic=42301.msg1293320#msg1293320 (http://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/index.php?topic=42301.msg1293320#msg1293320)
Quote from: Virgil_uk on Feb 28, 2012, 01:08:24 PM
Quote from: tmjhur on Feb 28, 2012, 12:28:26 PM
Are these people lazy or stupid or illogical or all of the above?
There are quotes from multiple actors in this movie saying that it is part of the ALIEN franchise.
So please do some independent research and come up with a new question to pose to people here or else don't type anything.
I don't think that was ChrisPachi's point at all.
It's just been a frustrating couple of months since the trailer :-\
It was my point. I was just riffing one meaning from what he wrote.
My apologies, and I do understand your general frustration regarding backdated information constantly being regurgitated.
Quote from: Pn2501 on Feb 28, 2012, 05:47:19 AM
sounding more like bullshit.
http://www.prometheusforum.net/discussion/comment/5714#Comment_5714 (http://www.prometheusforum.net/discussion/comment/5714#Comment_5714)
I believe that person is referring to mozinezo.hu and filmsite.hu. They certantly wouldn't have talked to Ridley Scott. All those Hungarian blog sites are pointing to IC Press as the source of the news. Allegedly IC Press (InterCom (http://www.intercom.hu/?page=50)) works for Fox in Hungary as their film distributor so it's all pretty confusing ATM.
It doesn't help that Fox has so far ignored all efforts from press when trying to confirm the news. Hopefully it will get clarified soon.
You know guys, we are making a big hoo ha over nothing really. We already know the Weyland company are in this. So we are fussing over which particular small role an actor plays, it's not a huge deal.