Started by Hudson, Aug 19, 2014, 04:55:43 PM
QuoteRandom thoughts after reading this a few weeks back.- Call was the only character who rang true from Resurrection. We hardly heard from Vriess. Johner was okay-ish. Ripley was too much of a contradiction – she goes all out to help people, but speaks to them like they're crap. Didn't match the softer, more human character we saw at the end of Resurrection. Her words to the dying Simoni were excrutiatingly bad.- Simoni was really just a vessel for information for Ripley. Although his death was unexpected, it would've been better if he remained alive to create conflict amongst the crew, rather than having the neat ending where the status quo at the beginning is matched perfectly at the end (to say nothing of Amanda Ripley conveniently being a journo). The pilot chick and Rama didn't have much to do, and Krakke was very similar to the ditched St Just from earlier drafts of Resurrection. Would've preferred a bit more backstory for the new crewmembers – or indeed ANY backstory.- Speaking of the such things, the whole sequence of escaping through garden/ forest/ jungle is derivative of earlier drafts of Resurrection.- The backstory regarding the Jockies or Malakak or whatever they were called was very silly. The fact it contradicted the existing EU and it's stance on Jockies was neither here nor there, but it takes the conspiracy theory hinted at in the films to a ridiculous extreme. Much better to leave these things mysterious.- Something being up with Cody and the other woman was flagged too early since they showed up on the Betty very unexpectedly.- Didn't really have a problem with the Aliens being more numerous and having big heads. Different stuff happens with the Aliens in each film, and Ripley only theorised as to what was going on, so rather than definatively saying "This is what's what", it's only hinted at.Overall it did keep me reading, but more to find out what other aspects of the universe had been mucked around with, than any real need to find out what happens to the characters. In that regard I think some of the earlier novels worked better, without being encumbered by established characters. I'm definitely interested in what happens to Ripley and co. post-Resurrection, but this didn't especially thrill me.
Quote from: SM on Aug 20, 2014, 10:13:53 PMWhich gaping plot holes?
Quote from: SM on Aug 21, 2014, 07:37:31 AMI wouldn't call Purvis' thing a "plot hole", but yes, it is addressed.
Quote from: SM on Aug 21, 2014, 07:37:31 AMAnd Wren's numbers were always wildly innaccurate depending on the script (where he said "twenty" - which I think was repeated in the novel?)
Quote(Except Ripley's, which was a Queen. But they never even offer that as an explanation in the movie.)
QuoteYeah, in the book he says twenty. Except what he says is they originally bred twenty. That makes sense. He'd know that. In the film he says there are twelve left at the point he is asked. There's no way he could possibly know how many Aliens are still alive at that point, unless he's been watching all the carnage on a video monitor somewhere and counting how many have been killed in the breakout.
Quote from: SM on Aug 21, 2014, 08:20:26 AMI always considered that as the moot explanation (beside Purvis being countdown clock). He even does the thing of feeling it inside him like Ripley does.
Quote from: SM on Aug 21, 2014, 08:20:26 AMWhat bugged me more was that both numbers - twenty and twelve - are wrong compared to the number of hosts brought on board.
QuoteDoesn't really help that when it does pop it looks nothing like the infant Queen from Alien 3.
QuoteI just find it odd that they had an explanation all set up for it (a stupid one, but in the stupid world of Alien Resurrection it kinda worked) and then decided to cut all trace of it from the film.
Quote from: SM on Aug 21, 2014, 08:40:42 AMToo young. Ripley's embryo took around 3 days to gestate. Purvis' was maybe gestating for 24 hours tops.
Quote from: SM on Aug 21, 2014, 08:40:42 AMIf you mean the thyroid thing - I think Crispin came up with that. Don't recall seeing it in any of Whedon's scripts.
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