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Author Topic: How I'd do Alien V  (Read 7270 times)

SM
Sep 07, 2020, 11:26:24 PM
Reply #15 on: Sep 07, 2020, 11:26:24 PM
Long time ago.

Didn't stop them putting some stupid bullshit in the RPG about the Company funding and effectively owning the ICC.


Local Trouble
Sep 07, 2020, 11:30:01 PM
Reply #16 on: Sep 07, 2020, 11:30:01 PM
Ugh.  I think it's time for you to stage a coup.

« Last Edit: Sep 08, 2020, 12:06:57 AM by Local Trouble »

Huggs
Sep 10, 2020, 12:03:54 AM
Reply #17 on: Sep 10, 2020, 12:03:54 AM
I honestly never found newt even remotely interesting enough to be seen beyond the one film.

Let alone carry an entire franchise.


Tichinde
Sep 10, 2020, 01:18:34 AM
Reply #18 on: Sep 10, 2020, 01:18:34 AM
she's not interesting but I think if she just dies it has the same effect Dark Fate had on Terminator and leaves a sore taste in people's mouths. Because the entire reason for fighting and surviving through the first movie is basically gone if there is no happy ending for some people. Ripley having to deal with them again is fine, but Newt is a kid, she represents innocence, so the ending of the film is the preservation of human innocence without that it's kinda bleak.

Hence why Alien 3 is viewed by so many (myself included) to spit all over Alien and Aliens


TC
Sep 10, 2020, 07:10:31 AM
Reply #19 on: Sep 10, 2020, 07:10:31 AM
Newt. Maybe not a standout when it comes to "interesting," but interesting enough. Just like Ripley was merely interesting enough in the first film. Luckily, Cameron saw the potential in Ripley, and made her more interesting.

Newt is intelligent and resourceful. It's implied that her mental state at the time of her discovery is one in which her brain has shut down on emotions so they don't get in the way of her doing whatever she needs to in order to survive. That's her key characteristic: she's a survivor.

I call this fertile ground. Particularly when you extrapolate what she would be like as an adult.

If I had written an Alien 3, Newt would be much like Clare Danes' character in Homeland, Carrie, with similar kinds of mental problems. (Carrie has to constantly manage her job as a CIA operative with her bipolar disorder. She has to hide her medication - lithium, Clonazepam, alcohol - and even checks herself into a hospital for voluntary ECT treatments so she can do her job).

This is what you do in a sequel; develop character not only by upping the ante in terms of plot (alien -> aliens), but also by driving it deeper into the psychology of the protagonist. IOW, create greater intensity both externally and internally.

Luckily, Cameron understood that and, likewise, took his story in both directions.

TC


Rankles75
Sep 10, 2020, 07:23:13 AM
Reply #20 on: Sep 10, 2020, 07:23:13 AM
Newt. Maybe not a standout when it comes to "interesting," but interesting enough. Just like Ripley was merely interesting enough in the first film. Luckily, Cameron saw the potential in Ripley, and made her more interesting.

Newt is intelligent and resourceful. It's implied that her mental state at the time of her discovery is one in which her brain has shut down on emotions so they don't get in the way of her doing whatever she needs to in order to survive. That's her key characteristic: she's a survivor.

I call this fertile ground. Particularly when you extrapolate what she would be like as an adult.

If I had written an Alien 3, Newt would be much like Clare Danes' character in Homeland, Carrie, with similar kinds of mental problems. (Carrie has to constantly manage her job as a CIA operative with her bipolar disorder. She has to hide her medication - lithium, Clonazepam, alcohol - and even checks herself into a hospital for voluntary ECT treatments so she can do her job).

This is what you do in a sequel; develop character not only by upping the ante in terms of plot (alien -> aliens), but also by driving it deeper into the psychology of the protagonist. IOW, create greater intensity both externally and internally.

Luckily, Cameron understood that and, likewise, took his story in both directions.

TC

Great post, fully agree.


 

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