Blomkamp is officially making an Alien film

Started by Gazz, Feb 19, 2015, 12:27:30 AM

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predxeno

I think there's a very nice chance it will. :)

Valaquen

Quote from: The Cruentus on Feb 19, 2015, 08:05:39 PM
Not to mention retconning Alien 3 means retconning the adaptive abilities of the Xenomorph since this film started that trend.

Alien 3 didn't come up with that, Scott and Ron Shusett both mentioned it as early as 1979. It was well known among fans before the third film put it to the screen.

Magegg

Quote from: marrerom on Feb 19, 2015, 08:57:59 PMRidley was as upfront as humanly possible that Prometheus was not an alien Prequel but its film, set in the same universe.  I don't know how many times in interviews leading up to Prometheus's theatrical release it was said that it wasn't going to be a clear cut prequel to alien. Ridley is exploring the spacejockeys with the Prometheus films, not the aliens, and that is perfectly acceptable.
No, IIRC, he originally wanted to be an Alien prequel, later he changed his mind and hired Lindelof to rewrite the script, but he said it was going to be a sequel at first and that was originally reported by many people.

MrSpaceJockey

Quote from: Valaquen on Feb 19, 2015, 10:03:44 PM
Quote from: The Cruentus on Feb 19, 2015, 08:05:39 PM
Not to mention retconning Alien 3 means retconning the adaptive abilities of the Xenomorph since this film started that trend.

Alien 3 didn't come up with that, Scott and Ron Shusett both mentioned it as early as 1979. It was well known among fans before the third film put it to the screen.

And by god I wouldn't want that feature of the Alien to be taken away.  How boring would it be if every xenomorph looked exactly the same.

marrerom

marrerom

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Quote from: predxeno on Feb 19, 2015, 09:11:43 PM
No he isn't, didn't you read my post?  He wants no Aliens OR jockeys in the sequel, which leads one to wonder whether the introduction of either in the first film was merely a launching platform to enslave fans to a franchise that ultimately wants nothing to do with Alien whether prequel or spinoff related.

We really dont know anything about it.  Ridley says he wants to go to the Engineer's home planet and that shaw and david will be in it.  Who knows? Its way too early to pass judgment.

Quote from: Omegazilla on Feb 19, 2015, 09:41:41 PM
AvPR at least can be quickly isolated. Prometheus shakes the thematic ground on which the first film sat.

Having aliens on modern day earth is more damaging to the themes presented In the Alien films then anything else. The whole point of those films was to prevent that exact scenario.


Russ

Quote from: Magegg on Feb 19, 2015, 10:07:24 PM
Quote from: marrerom on Feb 19, 2015, 08:57:59 PMRidley was as upfront as humanly possible that Prometheus was not an alien Prequel but its film, set in the same universe.  I don't know how many times in interviews leading up to Prometheus's theatrical release it was said that it wasn't going to be a clear cut prequel to alien. Ridley is exploring the spacejockeys with the Prometheus films, not the aliens, and that is perfectly acceptable.
No, IIRC, he originally wanted to be an Alien prequel, later he changed his mind and hired Lindelof to rewrite the script, but he said it was going to be a sequel at first and that was originally reported by many people.

Yep, the pre-rewrite script was leaked recently, it was written as a prequel... DoG reviewed it, they say it makes a lot more sense than Prometheus

predxeno

One bright side to retconning Alien 3 would be that A:CM would be retconned by association, that would make fans happy, so there is that.

The Cruentus

Quote from: Russ on Feb 19, 2015, 10:14:17 PM
Quote from: Magegg on Feb 19, 2015, 10:07:24 PM
Quote from: marrerom on Feb 19, 2015, 08:57:59 PMRidley was as upfront as humanly possible that Prometheus was not an alien Prequel but its film, set in the same universe.  I don't know how many times in interviews leading up to Prometheus's theatrical release it was said that it wasn't going to be a clear cut prequel to alien. Ridley is exploring the spacejockeys with the Prometheus films, not the aliens, and that is perfectly acceptable.
No, IIRC, he originally wanted to be an Alien prequel, later he changed his mind and hired Lindelof to rewrite the script, but he said it was going to be a sequel at first and that was originally reported by many people.

Yep, the pre-rewrite script was leaked recently, it was written as a prequel... DoG reviewed it, they say it makes a lot more sense than Prometheus

I have read it,
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it features white Xenomorphs and reveals that each cargo hold held different versions of the Xenomorphs, the main protogonist herself gets infected by a regular facehugger while Holloway was infected by a octo-facehugger, which spawned the White-Xenomorph, Beluga-morph or something./spoiler]
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MrSpaceJockey

Quote from: predxeno on Feb 19, 2015, 10:16:03 PM
One bright side to retconning Alien 3 would be that A:CM would be retconned by association, that would make fans happy, so there is that.

So you're saying that Neil Blomkamp's Alien film will make Aliens: Colonial Marines a better game?

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predxeno


Quote from: MrSpaceJockey on Feb 19, 2015, 10:20:55 PM
Quote from: predxeno on Feb 19, 2015, 10:16:03 PM
One bright side to retconning Alien 3 would be that A:CM would be retconned by association, that would make fans happy, so there is that.

So you're saying that Neil Blomkamp's Alien film will make Aliens: Colonial Marines a better game?

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Better, it would make A:CM a nonexistent game. ;)

Magegg

Quote from: Russ on Feb 19, 2015, 10:14:17 PM
Quote from: Magegg on Feb 19, 2015, 10:07:24 PM
Quote from: marrerom on Feb 19, 2015, 08:57:59 PMRidley was as upfront as humanly possible that Prometheus was not an alien Prequel but its film, set in the same universe.  I don't know how many times in interviews leading up to Prometheus's theatrical release it was said that it wasn't going to be a clear cut prequel to alien. Ridley is exploring the spacejockeys with the Prometheus films, not the aliens, and that is perfectly acceptable.
No, IIRC, he originally wanted to be an Alien prequel, later he changed his mind and hired Lindelof to rewrite the script, but he said it was going to be a sequel at first and that was originally reported by many people.

Yep, the pre-rewrite script was leaked recently, it was written as a prequel... DoG reviewed it, they say it makes a lot more sense than Prometheus
And Alien: Engineers was arguibly better than Prometheus's final script. A lot cheesier, but in my opinion, better done.

[cancerblack]

Quote from: marrerom on Feb 19, 2015, 08:42:36 PM
Both Alien 3 and resurrection are highly underrated, very stylish films made by very good directors with good actors.  To say that they are far superior to the Disastrous AvP films is an understatement.  Weavers performance in those films alone elevates them far above your standard sci fi horror film. 

The real reason people continually are disappointment with those films (including Prometheus) is because they are not carbon copies of James cameron's Aliens.  But they weren't trying to be, and even if hicks comes back neither will Alien 5


Quote from: predxeno on Feb 19, 2015, 08:36:43 PM

Ridley's presence on this film could be disconcerting however, since he seems to care little for the franchise now and his present style seems more focused on money-making than storytelling. :(

Again with the ridley bashing.  We are lucky he is involved.  Prometheus was a breath of fresh air and gave this franchise some much needed originality.


This guy, he gets it.

RakaiThwei

Quote from: predxeno on Feb 19, 2015, 10:16:03 PM
One bright side to retconning Alien 3 would be that A:CM would be retconned by association, that would make fans happy, so there is that.

As true as that is... Who takes A:CM seriously as canon anyway?

OmegaZilla

OmegaZilla

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Quote from: marrerom on Feb 19, 2015, 10:11:34 PM
Having aliens on modern day earth is more damaging to the themes presented In the Alien films then anything else.
Absolutely not. The themes of the fear of the unknown and the distant, and the utter vastity of the universe were absolutely at the core of Alien. Prometheus had no respect for that.

predxeno

Meh, I wouldn't know about seriously taking A:CM canon but Hicks is alive in my personal canon. :P Then again so are Apone and Drake, but that's a different matter entirely.

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