Started by Gazz, Feb 19, 2015, 12:27:30 AM
Quote from: The Cruentus on Feb 19, 2015, 08:05:39 PMNot to mention retconning Alien 3 means retconning the adaptive abilities of the Xenomorph since this film started that trend.
Quote from: marrerom on Feb 19, 2015, 08:57:59 PMRidley was as upfront as humanly possible that Prometheus was not an alien Prequel but its film, set in the same universe. I don't know how many times in interviews leading up to Prometheus's theatrical release it was said that it wasn't going to be a clear cut prequel to alien. Ridley is exploring the spacejockeys with the Prometheus films, not the aliens, and that is perfectly acceptable.
Quote from: Valaquen on Feb 19, 2015, 10:03:44 PMQuote from: The Cruentus on Feb 19, 2015, 08:05:39 PMNot to mention retconning Alien 3 means retconning the adaptive abilities of the Xenomorph since this film started that trend.Alien 3 didn't come up with that, Scott and Ron Shusett both mentioned it as early as 1979. It was well known among fans before the third film put it to the screen.
Quote from: predxeno on Feb 19, 2015, 09:11:43 PMNo he isn't, didn't you read my post? He wants no Aliens OR jockeys in the sequel, which leads one to wonder whether the introduction of either in the first film was merely a launching platform to enslave fans to a franchise that ultimately wants nothing to do with Alien whether prequel or spinoff related.
Quote from: Omegazilla on Feb 19, 2015, 09:41:41 PMAvPR at least can be quickly isolated. Prometheus shakes the thematic ground on which the first film sat.
Quote from: Magegg on Feb 19, 2015, 10:07:24 PMQuote from: marrerom on Feb 19, 2015, 08:57:59 PMRidley was as upfront as humanly possible that Prometheus was not an alien Prequel but its film, set in the same universe. I don't know how many times in interviews leading up to Prometheus's theatrical release it was said that it wasn't going to be a clear cut prequel to alien. Ridley is exploring the spacejockeys with the Prometheus films, not the aliens, and that is perfectly acceptable.No, IIRC, he originally wanted to be an Alien prequel, later he changed his mind and hired Lindelof to rewrite the script, but he said it was going to be a sequel at first and that was originally reported by many people.
Quote from: Russ on Feb 19, 2015, 10:14:17 PMQuote from: Magegg on Feb 19, 2015, 10:07:24 PMQuote from: marrerom on Feb 19, 2015, 08:57:59 PMRidley was as upfront as humanly possible that Prometheus was not an alien Prequel but its film, set in the same universe. I don't know how many times in interviews leading up to Prometheus's theatrical release it was said that it wasn't going to be a clear cut prequel to alien. Ridley is exploring the spacejockeys with the Prometheus films, not the aliens, and that is perfectly acceptable.No, IIRC, he originally wanted to be an Alien prequel, later he changed his mind and hired Lindelof to rewrite the script, but he said it was going to be a sequel at first and that was originally reported by many people.Yep, the pre-rewrite script was leaked recently, it was written as a prequel... DoG reviewed it, they say it makes a lot more sense than Prometheus
Quote from: predxeno on Feb 19, 2015, 10:16:03 PMOne bright side to retconning Alien 3 would be that A:CM would be retconned by association, that would make fans happy, so there is that.
Quote from: MrSpaceJockey on Feb 19, 2015, 10:20:55 PMQuote from: predxeno on Feb 19, 2015, 10:16:03 PMOne bright side to retconning Alien 3 would be that A:CM would be retconned by association, that would make fans happy, so there is that.So you're saying that Neil Blomkamp's Alien film will make Aliens: Colonial Marines a better game?Spoiler[close]
Quote from: marrerom on Feb 19, 2015, 08:42:36 PMBoth Alien 3 and resurrection are highly underrated, very stylish films made by very good directors with good actors. To say that they are far superior to the Disastrous AvP films is an understatement. Weavers performance in those films alone elevates them far above your standard sci fi horror film. The real reason people continually are disappointment with those films (including Prometheus) is because they are not carbon copies of James cameron's Aliens. But they weren't trying to be, and even if hicks comes back neither will Alien 5Quote from: predxeno on Feb 19, 2015, 08:36:43 PM Ridley's presence on this film could be disconcerting however, since he seems to care little for the franchise now and his present style seems more focused on money-making than storytelling. Again with the ridley bashing. We are lucky he is involved. Prometheus was a breath of fresh air and gave this franchise some much needed originality.
Quote from: predxeno on Feb 19, 2015, 08:36:43 PM Ridley's presence on this film could be disconcerting however, since he seems to care little for the franchise now and his present style seems more focused on money-making than storytelling.
Quote from: marrerom on Feb 19, 2015, 10:11:34 PMHaving aliens on modern day earth is more damaging to the themes presented In the Alien films then anything else.