Quote from: Gazz on Feb 19, 2015, 12:59:22 AM
UPDATE: Neill Blomkamp's ALIEN movie will take place AFTER the events of PROMETHEUS 2.
It's an anonymous source and
not a direct quote. My guess is that they actually meant that filming would commence after the '
Prometheus' sequel has wrapped.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Feb 19, 2015, 01:07:20 AM
In terms of taking lore from Prometheus into account...it'd probably just be the Engineers which we can't change. It's happened. That's what the Jockey's are now.
Not necessarily. I was saying for a long time that the Engineers could have simply been emulating their
own creators or another, even more ancient, species. Or, alternatively, something symbolic of one - I always preferred the idea of the Space Jockey just being a ship's 'living' CPU, with the actual crew looking completely different. The excellent '
Farscape' did that.
It's totally plausible, considering that the Engineers clearly have a thing for working iconic art into event heir architecture.
Quote from: Gash on Feb 19, 2015, 01:53:47 AM
Bringing back Hicks would be weird and pointless - what was there to the character anyway?
A pragmatic character who could have backed up Ripley's version of events, for one. The third film was hampered by recycling the nobody-believes-Ripley-and-people-die-because-of-it thing. One of the major points of '
Aliens' was that the conclusion implied that was going to be a game-changer in the grand scheme of things, once they got home.
QuoteAmanda Ripley maybe.
Eh... The way that character was portrayed, was fine. The reason for her
existence, however, still has yet to be reconciled with an explanation.
QuoteMake a film inspired by Isolation. Something that recaptures the essence of the original.
Tone-wise, maybe - lighting and set design. The rest? As a game, it works. As a movie, it would be fairly boring/predictable to watch what amounts to a two-hour extravaganza of someone running around corridors and hiding in lockers.
QuoteNo Queen alien either, let's not go down that route again.
So... No way for the Aliens to reproduce? Talk about devaluing their threat potential!
I'd love for it to finally be canonised that egg-transformation is a way to
get a Queen, but that still includes the presence/threat of one - much like '
Alien 3' did.
Also, considering we have seen concept art of weapons being hauled around, you can bet some Aliens are going to be shot at and die. They need a way to reproduce.
On the other hand, if this
does retcon the third and fourth films, we can perhaps bring back the possibility of any adult creature being able to turn into a Queen... The third movie meant that was no longer feasible, because Queens were 'born' that way (which wouldn't happen if any adult could simply turn into one). Bringing that possibility back would make the creatures a significant threat, once more - and maybe explain why the original film's creature was so lethargic.
It'll be like the early 1990s, all over again!
Quote from: OpenMaw on Feb 19, 2015, 02:28:41 AM
I don't think most people, the general audience, will care either way. As long as the story is done well and entertaining. It very easily could be done well, too. A malfunction in hypersleep is entirely plausible for any number of reasons. You don't even have to dwell on the notion of what is taking place.
Precisely. If the story's decent, nobody will care.
The only thing is, it's a gamble. A retcon always runs the risk of being worse than what it's hoping to replace. Dare I say it, but witness the Engineers versus original Space Jockey concept... I'm fairly sure most people who saw it wished they had just kept it the same.
If it's a good film, though, nobody will mind if it means the third and fourth films are no longer 'true'. It wouldn't even have to be superior to have that effect. Just equal to them.
QuoteAlternatively, you set the story after the events of Resurrection, which doesn't really interest me very much personally. It's so far removed from what made the series interesting to me, and that version of Ripley has little to do with the woman I cared about for the three previous films. If there's a Ripley to show the audience, it's the Ripley who survived the first two films, not the Ripley who had very little of her humanity.
I'd actually like it, personally. It'd essentially be like '
The Fly 2', where we can never tell when her Alien psychology and DNA might assert itself, which could make for some great drama if it's handled well/respectfully.
There is also still the matter of not knowing what happened to Ripley 7.
QuoteBesides, this is shallow, but I really like the idea of seeing a PTSD suffering, alcoholic, and older Hicks fighting the aliens again. There's just something about exploring that character in those terms, especially if they get Michael Biehn back to do the role, that appeals to me.
Agreed. I really liked how he was portrayed in the first two comics - which I suspect is what's heavily influencing this story and resulting concept art.
Quote from: Gash on Feb 19, 2015, 02:42:37 AM
The concept art seems to take Ripley 8 a stage further and puts her in an alien costume. Looks very daft.
No more daft than the Engineers.
If anything, it looks like that concept might directly involve that technology.
Quote from: Magegg on Feb 19, 2015, 02:58:26 AM
I don't think they would be interested in Ripley and Hicks being the protagonists of the story, either, modern generations don't know those characters.
I honestly can't think of a single person who hasn't watched '
Aliens'... Just look at all the hype and hope which surrounded '
Colonial Marines', back when people still thought it might be good. Whether or not this could turn out well, there's no way people won't remember who Hicks is.
Quote from: Crazy Shrimp on Feb 19, 2015, 04:28:34 AM
you mean Gigeresque? ^^ that already exists, and is called Deacon
The Deacon was a poor Roger Corman-esque imitation... I can never look at it and
not feel unintentionally amused.
Quote from: sean.sumner on Feb 19, 2015, 10:52:30 AM
If Alien Colonial Marines was official cannon then Hicks is alive and well? As for Ripley she died in Alien 3, again fox cannon so any sequel involving these two is going to be messy story wise
In fairness, we don't actually know that.
I've said before, that we could just as easily be seeing concept art of Ripley 'doing a Sarah Connor'. In the extended version of '
Terminator 2', the character has dreams about Kyle (played by the same actor) helping her to get out of a bad situation.
Now, that'd be easy enough to do with Ripley dreaming about Hicks, but we know Ripley 8 had a lot of genetic memories locked up. It would be interesting if something happened (whether accidentally or deliberately) to make her hallucinate him. I could see that working as an intriguing sub-plot. Would go some way to explaining why he's injured and dressed in that way, also, as those would effectively be her last (semi-distorted) memories of how he was.
So, that's a way it could possibly be set after '
Alien Resurrection'. Either Hicks is part of a dream or he's an active hallucination (possibly with Ripley being fully aware of such).