https://variety.com/2018/film/news/the-predator-reboot-shane-black-1202874827/amp/?__twitter_impression=true
Only skim read it but seems some new info.
QuoteDavis, who has produced every film in the franchise, praises Black for finding a fresh take, and for grounding the scares by creating more believable characters.
"This is an auteur-driven reimagining," says Davis. "Shane Black has a voice and a signature, and it kind of re-enlivens the franchise."
The producer says that "The Predator" will set up two sequels that he hopes Black will return to direct. But Black doesn't want to get ahead of himself.
"I would love to say we've been planning a trilogy, but I take one day at a time," he cautions. "In motion-picture terms that's one movie at a time."
Last few lines indicate are interesting. The producer says this movie potentially sets up an additional two movies that he hopes Black returns to direct. Assuming this one is a hit of course.
Quote from: MudButt on Jul 18, 2018, 09:30:03 PM
Last few lines indicate are interesting. The producer says this movie potentially sets up an additional two movies that he hopes Black returns to direct. Assuming this one is a hit of course.
That's exciting that they have that in mind already if everything works out
Quote from: The Wolverine Predator on Jul 18, 2018, 11:00:17 PM
Quote from: MudButt on Jul 18, 2018, 09:30:03 PM
Last few lines indicate are interesting. The producer says this movie potentially sets up an additional two movies that he hopes Black returns to direct. Assuming this one is a hit of course.
That's exciting that they have that in mind already if everything works out
It's par for the course these days with franchise properties. Everyone wants a trilogy or cinematic universe. It seems like Black is only focusing on this one at the moment which is good. The biggest reason these franchises/universes fail is because they try so hard to cram set up for future films in the first one.
Quote from: MudButt on Jul 18, 2018, 11:05:06 PM
Quote from: The Wolverine Predator on Jul 18, 2018, 11:00:17 PM
Quote from: MudButt on Jul 18, 2018, 09:30:03 PM
Last few lines indicate are interesting. The producer says this movie potentially sets up an additional two movies that he hopes Black returns to direct. Assuming this one is a hit of course.
That's exciting that they have that in mind already if everything works out
It's par for the course these days with franchise properties. Everyone wants a trilogy or cinematic universe. It seems like Black is only focusing on this one at the moment which is good. The biggest reason these franchises/universes fail is because they try so hard to cram set up for future films in the first one.
Yeah I agree
Quote from: MudButt on Jul 18, 2018, 11:05:06 PM
Quote from: The Wolverine Predator on Jul 18, 2018, 11:00:17 PM
Quote from: MudButt on Jul 18, 2018, 09:30:03 PM
Last few lines indicate are interesting. The producer says this movie potentially sets up an additional two movies that he hopes Black returns to direct. Assuming this one is a hit of course.
That's exciting that they have that in mind already if everything works out
It's par for the course these days with franchise properties. Everyone wants a trilogy or cinematic universe. It seems like Black is only focusing on this one at the moment which is good. The biggest reason these franchises/universes fail is because they try so hard to cram set up for future films in the first one.
True, and then we actually never end up getting one...
Quote from: MudButt on Jul 18, 2018, 11:05:06 PM
The biggest reason these franchises/universes fail is because they try so hard to cram set up for future films in the first one.
Or they save a bunch of cool stuff for a potential sequel. That's what I loved about Godzilla 2014, it was meant to stand on its own and tell a full story. It didn't feel like it was just stretching out a couple of cool ideas and holding a lot back.
The Alien franchise never started doing it until the prequels.
Yea make a good movie first, then think about the sequel. For some reason I think Black might agree. :P
Not sure if I like John "AvP/AvP-R" Davis saying this...
Well, it was pretty clear from the beginning that they are planning a new franchise with this and breaking up with the tradiiton of a movie every decade or so.
A prerequisite for that, aside from the financial point, is a good movie that leaves the audience wanting some more, and boy are they traying to get this one right. They tested the hell out of this, reshot the 3rd act and now add two days of some more filming.
No matter how this turns out, they tried. I really don't want to know how much money they already spend factoring in these long reshoots and almost a year a half on post production... and costumes, visual effects, sets and stunts that will now never see the light of day.
The Predator 2 and The Predators.
Lets continue with the confusing naming for the hell of it.
If one of the sequels can be a good AvP movie that would be great. ;D
Quote from: Wweyland on Jul 19, 2018, 08:38:38 AM
The Predator 2 and The Predators.
Lets continue with the confusing naming for the hell of it.
Ironicly The Predator is predators 2. P1 and P2 was about Predator hunting humans. AvP and AvP-R was about Predator hunting Aliens. Ps and TP is about Predator versus bigger Predator.
It's getting confusing, just like Halloween.
Halloween 12456 or Halloween 1278 or Halloween 1 - 2018
Is this predator 3? Or what?
It is Predator 3 to me, it's the third Predator film in an earth setting. Predators like Alien Resurrection or Prometheus is something completely divergent.
I thought they were including the AVP universe in The Predator timeline? So that would make this the 6 movie. :)
Quote from: The Old One on Jul 19, 2018, 11:00:42 AM
It is Predator 3 to me, it's the third Predator film in an earth setting. Predators like Alien Resurrection or Prometheus is something completely divergent.
I want to know what shane said about the placing of this movie. I haven't seen him mentioning anything about that this is p3 otherwise the movies title would have been predator 3
He said in a recent video it's 4th.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jul 19, 2018, 11:07:10 AM
He said in a recent figure it's 4.
So if this is p4 what was p3? (predators?)
Yep.
Usually talk of sequels before a movie's even come out tend to worry me, but I like Black's comments that his primary focus was on making a self-contained movie.
Yeah that reminds me of a guy, Ridley S. i believe... :laugh:
Would not be surprised if the sequels are AVP movies. With the comments from Comic Con and the added references added back in previous reshoots, plus a new 2 day reshoot next week(post credit scene?)- it's leading me to believe that's what is next.
Can't be arsed with more AVP films - no offence as I know they do have their fans.
But the whole AVP aspect was so brilliant because it was a simple nod to another cinema great in a 'blink-and-you'll-miss-it' moment in P2.
Let sleeping dogs lie and focus on returning both franchises to their former glories.
With regards to direct sequels, I've just touched on it in another thread but one could follow Predators - something like the ark has all previous co-ords mapped and the kid can decipher what is where etc.
All the Super preds/bad bloods are dead; but the classics send scouting parties to see WTF has gone on. Humans get to the game reserve, yautja get to the game reserve - Game on!
Direct sequel to The Predator is business as usual for Yautja. It's hot. It's somewhere equatorial. Oh look - there's some guts on the floor and, what's that? Yep. Some poor sod strung upside down minus a few entrails.
Allow the Predators sequel to veer off into Dark Horse/non-canonical realms and give us a 'proper' entry to the Predator series with a direct sequel to this one.
I think that's all parties happy then. Series expansion *AND* classic Pred action with potential for tie-ins/crossovers.
Quote"This is an auteur-driven reimagining,"
So this is a new continuity? ???
Funny, Shane recently said the opposite, but whatever, everybody wants to create a "cinematic universe" now.
Quote from: DaddyYautja on Jul 20, 2018, 12:47:18 AM
Quote"This is an auteur-driven reimagining,"
So this is a new continuity? ???
Really? They already said this is a sequel to not only all Predator movies but also the AVP movies, for some reason.
The reason should be obvious enough. To appease the hardcore fans out there.
I'm fine if this movie is a set up for more movies and expand the Predator lore.
I'd like to see maybe some kind of clan war scenario. A clan of super Predators are causing chaos, so a clan of elite Predator's go on a hunt to stop them. It would just be good to see the classic Predators not treated like crap and have them be badass again.
I hate the idea of many movies to show that the new thing is better it has to smash the old one, no, show your value, at least in predators the classic do something even it has benn tied for what seems long time.
In fact as many times i said, the movie without the upgrade crap looks more interesting for me.
And i really hope black respect the rules from the old movies, all the hunting culture, because the dna splicing conquering worlds sounds like crap
Shane Black so wants to have a crack at an AvP film. I'm down with that. ;D
Quote from: BishopShouldGo on Jul 21, 2018, 05:54:12 AM
Shane Black so wants to have a crack at an AvP film. I'm down with that. ;D
...What? Where... Where do you get that from?
Quote from: OpenMaw on Jul 21, 2018, 07:52:31 AM
Quote from: BishopShouldGo on Jul 21, 2018, 05:54:12 AM
Shane Black so wants to have a crack at an AvP film. I'm down with that. ;D
...What? Where... Where do you get that from?
All I heard was he said AVP happened and it's not dead when they where on the Panel in Hall H
Yeah he said "I don't think AvP is dead yet, do you?"
I admit I may have overreacted. But the way he said it, sounds like he thinks it's a cool idea. Wouldn't be surprised if he has thought about it.
We first need to see how this movie plays out.
If it's not that good, I really do not want to see him make an AvP on Earth in the present, and if we're unlucky, Upgraded preds vs Upgraded aliens. I know there's nothing to indicate he would do that, but that is my worst case scenario of bad ideas and we still have to see if he did right by The Predator.
Quote from: Still Collating... on Jul 21, 2018, 10:10:55 PM
We first need to see how this movie plays out.
If it's not that good, I really do not want to see him make an AvP on Earth in the present, and if we're unlucky, Upgraded preds vs Upgraded aliens. I know there's nothing to indicate he would do that, but that is my worst case scenario of bad ideas and we still have to see if he did right by The Predator.
For me, the problem is more along the lines of, "the avp movies were terrible, adding copious amounts of shane black humor will merely make a potentially terrible film just that much worse". I'd love another avp, but not if it's about 2 guys in some small town making dick jokes while aliens stalk them through a cornfield. We might wind up in Eric Red territory.
Hell, that almost sounds like a Kevin Smith movie.
Quote from: BishopShouldGo on Jul 21, 2018, 04:27:00 PMYeah he said "I don't think AvP is dead yet, do you?"
I admit I may have overreacted. But the way he said it, sounds like he thinks it's a cool idea. Wouldn't be surprised if he has thought about it.
To me it sounded more like him saying Fox are considering something in the future. Not that he'll personally be involved.
Hell, maybe Fox even prodded him to tease it to see what kind of reaction it gets.
Realistically, he's just saying it still has potential, nothing more.
Well, I'm all for a new AvP movie, just done right this time. I would really like it to be not on present day Earth this time around and the only thing I insist is it be better than AvP:R, I hope that's not too much to ask. :P
Quote from: Still Collating... on Jul 23, 2018, 11:08:21 AM
the only thing I insist is it be better than AvP:R, I hope that's not too much to ask. :P
1 person with a cellphone and some neca figures could've made better movies than the two we've got so far.
Quote from: Huggs on Jul 23, 2018, 11:37:18 PM
Quote from: Still Collating... on Jul 23, 2018, 11:08:21 AM
the only thing I insist is it be better than AvP:R, I hope that's not too much to ask. :P
1 person with a cellphone and some neca figures could've made better movies than the two we've got so far.
Good one :D