Quote from: BishopShouldGo on Jun 30, 2017, 11:20:40 PM
Quote from: SM on Jun 30, 2017, 11:11:03 PM
So does anyone have any info regarding Fox stipulating to Riddles that Prometheus and Covenant had to be two hours (give or take)?
IT'S A CONTRACTUAL ORDER!!!
"Final Cut" is a the name for this contractual order and that the studio has that say is common practice. But you can bet Ridley is smart enough to make sure of this himself.
If its R Rated and has a budget of anywhere near 100 mil, its 2 hours or less because theatres lose showtimes and the films cant make their money. The exceptions are few and prove the rule. If all of your money is made between 7pm and 11pm, and it takes a half hour between each film to clean and set up a new theatre, plus trailers and etc, and you can only sell tickets to people over 17, you would not be smart to want 1 showtime between 7pm and 11pm instead of 2 showtimes. You see? Why would you need a link to prove that?
Quote from: SiL on Jun 30, 2017, 12:34:07 PM
Quote from: CainsSon on Jun 30, 2017, 07:34:41 AM
It is an industry fact that R-Rated films are not produced at 100 million + budgets because their audience and ability to fill seats is limited and this is the only franchise that has ever been able to pull that off.
Some films made in the last 17 years with an R rating and $100 million budget that didn't bomb:
Gladiator
Terminator 3
300: Rise of an Empire
Hangover Part 3
Django Unchained
Wolf of Wall Street
Mad Max: Fury Road
The Revenant
QuoteIt is also an industry fact that films longer than 2 hours are frowned upon by Hollywood because they make less money / have less ability to make money because they have less showtimes per day.
Most major releases today are over 2 hours. The current top five highest grossing films of all time -- not adjusted for inflation -- are over 2 hours, and of the top 10 only one is under -- Frozen.
QuoteAliens, the only exception in this franchise, is the exception proving the rule. It wasnt made cheaply, and it rode the coattails of the smash hit that was ALIEN at a time when Low Budget R Rated films actually had a theatrical release
Aliens had a fairly average budget and was released 8 years after the previous film. That's hardly "riding on the coattails".
Sorry nope.
GLADIATOR - 2.5 hours (not a sequel or a part 6)
A winner but not a franchise and also its a very SOFT R and not a horror film. IE Exception proving rule.
TERMINATOR 3 - 1hour 49 minutes - Nope
300: RISE - 1 hour 42 min - Nope
HANGOVER 3 - 1 hour 40 min - Nope
DJANGO - 2hours and 41 min
WAIT!!! WAIT!!! We have a winner. OOOOOOH Guess what? It only made 162 million and was a Box Office Failure but also universally acclaimed. Ergo - why this is never done.
WOLF OF WALL ST - 3 hours. Budget 100 million HOW MUCH DID IT MAKE? 116 million. Once again. Why this is never done.
Even when you have a name recognized director like Tarantino of Scorcese, this is a huge risk.
MAD MAX: FURY ROAD - 2 hours.
REVENANT : 2.5 hours (director just won oscar) It was a risk and it was a success. But it also was only due to the director and because it wasnt a sequel.
So there it is. Not a single one of these films is a sequel in a big franchise, with a 100m budget, R Rating and over 2 hours.
If its R Rated and has a budget of anywhere near 100 mil, its 2 hours or less because theaters lose showtimes and the films cant make their money. The exceptions are few and prove the rule. If all of your money is made between 7pm and 11pm, and it takes a half hour between each film to clean and set up a new theatre, plus trailers and etc, and you can only sell tickets to people over 17, you would not be smart to want 1 showtime between 7pm and 11pm instead of 2 showtimes. You see? Why would you need a link to prove that?