Quote from: Darkness on Jun 02, 2014, 08:22:40 PM
Bearing in mind she's 64 years old now, time is ticking.
She looked fine in '
Vamps' and '
Cabin In The Woods' and a script could always imply something quirky with Ripley 8's metabolism.
Quote from: whiterabbit on Jun 03, 2014, 03:10:08 AM
Screw canon, I want the alien movie we deserve and not the one that we need. They can wipe alien³ and A|R from the face of the script for all I care. Like neither of them ever happened. 
We'll call it a reboot.
Years ago, this could have potentially been done, but these days, there's a huge gamble at play - especially if you're trying to retcon, not just one film, but two. Because what if the end result is something far worse than what you disliked about them?
Just look at the recent '
Friday The 13th' reboot. It's so terrible they're already attempting yet another.
In fact, let's look at '
Alien Versus Predator'. When '
Requiem' came around, a lot of the fandom was already praising the two new directors, saying it "couldn't possibly be any worse". All that pre-emptive hype seems a bit misplaced now, doesn't it?
Ridley Scott? A lot of people seemed to have greeted '
Prometheus' with a reaction of WTF.
James Cameron? Not sure... In times passed, I'd have been intrigued, but around the mark of '
True Lies', his stuff seemed to be much more superficial than before - especially evident in '
Titanic'. If you had been told the director of both '
Terminator' films and '
Aliens' would have wound up making something as sentimental and Spielbergian as that, you'd have probably disbelieved them.
Quote from: Russ on Jun 03, 2014, 08:47:24 AM
I remember in the Alien special edition blu ray features, Dan O'Bannon said something like "I've already nailed this. It's done - move on. This was scary 30 years ago - its not scary any more because we already nailed it." Something like that. And he's probably right - the shock value has gone - or at least, we think it has.
I'd love to see RakaThewi's idea played out with a younger crew / passing of the torch from old Ripley to new-kick-ass... but the essential thing is (as we all know) making the alien scary and shocking again (whilst keeping within the confines of established lore).
Everyone remembers what the third and fourth film lacked, but neither of them really portrayed the Alien right, IMO. It hasn't been
effectively and
believably presented on the big screen since 1986. Even those who disliked the alleged changes in Cameron's version will probably admit that he at least made them seem realistic and threatening, compared to what was in the third and fourth efforts.
It's no good declaring, like Scott did, pre-'
Prometheus', that just because something has featured on a Disney ride, therefore it's impossible to breathe fresh life into. It very much
is possible.
Vampires have been in more than a few horridly made film productions, too, but when they're done right, they can still be effective horror icons, too ('
Thirty Days Of Night' could even be modified into an '
Alien' story template). Same for Terminators being rendered effective. Or even sharks, for that matter... I was highly impressed with '
The Reef', for example, which has some amazingly effective tension and uses the environment of open water astonishingly well.
Can Aliens be presented well, again? Absolutely. In fact, no matter how the game turns out, the adverts for the upcoming '
Isolation' game manage to do precisely that. The fact we haven't had widely-accepted success on the big screen in recent years, shouldn't be taken as any indication as to what
can be possible.
