New comic
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@ralfy your questions will finally be answered.
@Local Trouble bring the popcorn.
Is this going to be like an anthology? with different "what if" scenerios?
Haha Paul Reiser's involved.
I hope we can get the same for both AVP and Predator. Would be interesting to see those takes too.
Now we're getting a What-If series for Alien?
Marvel, just GIVE us an Alien-Predator multiverse and announce it! C'mon! :laugh:
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Dec 21, 2023, 04:55:07 PMHaha Paul Reiser's involved.
Yeah! Looks like he and his son wrote it.
How come information on this is so lacking. Cant find anything about it online, even downloaded the Preview thing this is appafrom and its not in it? Want it to be a thing but lack of info is strange.
Quote from: davewesker on Dec 21, 2023, 10:03:02 PMHow come information on this is so lacking. Cant find anything about it online, even downloaded the Preview thing this is appafrom and its not in it? Want it to be a thing but lack of info is strange.
the solicitations for march just came out https://aiptcomics.com/2023/12/21/full-march-2024-marvel-comics-solicitations/
Very cool!
Quote from: TilotnyWorshiper28 on Dec 21, 2023, 11:49:24 PMQuote from: davewesker on Dec 21, 2023, 10:03:02 PMHow come information on this is so lacking. Cant find anything about it online, even downloaded the Preview thing this is appafrom and its not in it? Want it to be a thing but lack of info is strange.
the solicitations for march just came out https://aiptcomics.com/2023/12/21/full-march-2024-marvel-comics-solicitations/
"For years, fans of James Cameron's legendary Aliens questioned whether Carter Burke, a company man more hateable than the Xenos themselves, had actually survived the traumatic events on the terraforming colony Hadley's Hope. Now the actor behind the beloved villain, Paul Reiser, joins his son Leon and the star-studded team of writers and producers Adam F. Goldberg, Brian Volk-Weiss and Hans Rodionoff for a journey back to Hadley's Hope and the twisted escape of a man who should have died."I can genuinely say I never wondered this one! But I'm very curious and excited to give this one a go! I love me some alternate stories so very very interested to see where they go with this one, especially with Reiser's involvement.
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Nice, I much prefer a proper what if scenario, than trying to write a new plot with known characters with established story like it was canon. Out of the Shadows suffered from it an it would be much better as what if story, without artificial attempts to write it in between existing stories.
Marvel is really stepping up with their Alien and Predator Publications. Not only quality of continuing series is better, they are also giving more interesting stuff, like Anthology, what if, crossover. So even if someone doesn't like one thing, they can pick another. One thing that is still lacking is some AvP stuff though.
Yeah absolutely nobody was asking this question but it's interesting to explore.
Any word if this particular story is going to span a whole arc, or if each "What If?" question is going to be a single one-shot? The solicitation lists it at a pricier 40 pages which is longer than the standard issue so I'm guessing a one-shot, but I guess it could be an extended first issue.
Nice to get new comics, but they might have found a more interesting "what if" to start this off.
Just call one "What if the Sulaco made it back to Earth?" and use it to get the Blomkamp script out there. ;)
Quote from: Wweyland on Dec 22, 2023, 12:34:03 PMNice to get new comics, but they might have found a more interesting "what if" to start this off.
I mean, it all depends on writers idea of how to approach it. I also read superhero comics, and they had many what ifs and alternate timelines, and there were some very interesting stories starting of simple and simingly uninteresting scenarios.
Thank you for the post. Do you have sources where you can read about it in an expanded form or make a pre-order?
Quote from: jacobo1122 on Dec 22, 2023, 12:48:08 PMQuote from: Wweyland on Dec 22, 2023, 12:34:03 PMNice to get new comics, but they might have found a more interesting "what if" to start this off.
I mean, it all depends on writers idea of how to approach it. I also read superhero comics, and they had many what ifs and alternate timelines, and there were some very interesting stories starting of simple and simingly uninteresting scenarios.
Yeah, there's definitely a ton of very interesting ripple effects that could/would come from Burke surviving the events of
Aliens. It's just funny how the announcement frames it as a question that everyone's been asking for years. :laugh:
So Burke probably bargained with the Alien not to kill him by offering a high dollar value percentage on all future discoveries made on Hadley's Hope.
Nope. Absolutely not.. I know exactly where this comic is going with that cover of him in the queens layer. Burke did NOT put the f**king egg on the Sulaco, not in any universe. 😝
Quote from: TilotnyWorshiper28 on Dec 21, 2023, 11:49:24 PMQuote from: davewesker on Dec 21, 2023, 10:03:02 PMHow come information on this is so lacking. Cant find anything about it online, even downloaded the Preview thing this is appafrom and its not in it? Want it to be a thing but lack of info is strange.
the solicitations for march just came out https://aiptcomics.com/2023/12/21/full-march-2024-marvel-comics-solicitations/
Ah thank you. See I downloaded something called Preview that the pic was apparently from and went to the page shown and even looked through whole thing and it wasnt there. Happy to be wrong.
best news ive heard in a long time in the published comic stuff realm for Alien.
Quote from: davewesker on Dec 22, 2023, 03:32:17 PMQuote from: TilotnyWorshiper28 on Dec 21, 2023, 11:49:24 PMQuote from: davewesker on Dec 21, 2023, 10:03:02 PMHow come information on this is so lacking. Cant find anything about it online, even downloaded the Preview thing this is appafrom and its not in it? Want it to be a thing but lack of info is strange.
the solicitations for march just came out https://aiptcomics.com/2023/12/21/full-march-2024-marvel-comics-solicitations/
Ah thank you. See I downloaded something called Preview that the pic was apparently from and went to the page shown and even looked through whole thing and it wasnt there. Happy to be wrong.
your welcome
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Dec 22, 2023, 12:46:17 PMJust call one "What if the Sulaco made it back to Earth?" and use it to get the Blomkamp script out there. ;)
They did that in 1988.
Hopefully we'll get What If stories for Predator as well...
"What if the Predator killed Dutch?"
I'd like to see that!
He collects a trophy and goes home?
You'd have an actual story if he killed Dutch first.
Dillon kills the Predator by pushing a pencil in its eye.
As long as it invalidates the steaming pile of horse droppings known as Dark Mother, then I'm all for it!
Quote from: Slutty Badger on Dec 22, 2023, 09:59:08 PMAs long as it invalidates the steaming pile of horse droppings known as Dark Mother, then I'm all for it!
What is Dark Mother?
Quote from: Xenomrph on Dec 22, 2023, 10:19:15 PMQuote from: Slutty Badger on Dec 22, 2023, 09:59:08 PMAs long as it invalidates the steaming pile of horse droppings known as Dark Mother, then I'm all for it!
What is Dark Mother?
I think it might be the figure that apparently facehugger victims dream about. I think it was mentioned in the more recent comics, maybe the one with cruz
Oh I haven't read any of the Aliens or Predator comics from Marvel.
What if Hicks and Newt survived fury131.
My guess is that Burke manages to successfully do his plan that Ripley and co managed to sniff out from him.
Have Hicks and Newt survive the crash during Alien 3, NOW THAT'S A WORTY "WHAT IF" to look at!
Dark Mother is a story from Bug Hunt in which (from memory) Burke cocooned having a change of heart and trying to save the day. It's famous for having editorial notes left in it and not removed prior to publication.
Quote from: SM on Dec 23, 2023, 07:13:31 AMDark Mother is a story from Bug Hunt in which (from memory) Burke cocooned having a change of heart and trying to save the day. It's famous for having editorial notes left in it and not removed prior to publication.
Yeah, that's the one.
Oh right. I thought you were referring to the Alien figure thing that hosts dream about. I thought she was called the dark mother.
Quote from: The Cruentus on Dec 23, 2023, 01:37:50 PMOh right. I thought you were referring to the Alien figure thing that hosts dream about. I thought she was called the dark mother.
That's the Goddess (https://avp.fandom.com/wiki/Goddess), or the One/Woman in the Dark.
They both utterly suck.
Yeah not too fond of it myself as it is basically the psychic stuff all over the again.
Yikes!👀👉👈what a disgusting fan fiction
They better not f**k this one up for me.
Quote from: Carter Burke's Canon Wife on Dec 24, 2023, 03:58:02 AMThey better not f**k this one up for me.
Your username on this thread topic, perfection! :laugh:
I really appreciate the art here not being a yucky 3d model. Having read only a few of the DH series, I'm interested in this
they already did that in the OG comics
Quote from: readthesourcematerial on Dec 26, 2023, 05:35:50 PMthey already did that in the OG comics
Burke was dead in the OG comics.
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Funnily enough, the Swedish Chef was featured on the nose art of a dropship in Inferno's Fall, the Egg Beater. "BURK! BURK! BOOM!"
I pray with all my heart for
"What if Hicks, Newt and Bishop Survived?"
Whoever makes this a reality will make me a happy man.
Quote from: AJ on Dec 29, 2023, 04:27:21 AMI pray with all my heart for
"What if Hicks, Newt and Bishop Survived?"
Whoever makes this a reality will make me a happy man.
Wouldnt that be the William Gibson Alien³?
It's the very first Aliens comics series.
And Gibson's A3.
Aliens The Original Series, William Gibson's Alien³ graphic novel, novel and audio drama, how many more do you need?
What if... Gorman never got the chance to blow himself up?
Would Newt have slipped?
No need for Ripley and Hicks to go back downstairs.
Newt doesnt get taken, Hicks doesnt get burned.
No queen on the dropship, no damage to Bishop.
No Alien 3.
Fine margins these things.
Aliens probably overrun the three, they all die.
Yeah they would have run out of ammo before the drop ship landed.
Quote from: SiL on Dec 29, 2023, 09:48:28 AMAliens probably overrun the three, they all die.
What a comic that would make...🤣
Not to mention poor Vasquez...and Gorman of course. They would probably have been taken to the hive and facehugged. Fortunately the place would blow up before they could be implanted.
Depends what film you go by.
That is true, sadly.
I'd like to see this story approach taken to other Alien films.
What if Jacob Branson was able to escape his cryotube?
What if Daniels and Tennessee sniffed out David before going into cryosleep?
What if Ripley 8 decided to throw in her lot with the Xenos?
Seriously, so many questions that should be asked...
What if Ripley had trusted Charles Bishop instead of sacrificing herself in Alien³?
...or what if Jesus had not been crucified two thousand years ago?
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About making it back to earth, I read that there was one unused script for the third movie depicting that, i.e., an Earth-like town but created in a space station.
Eric Red's script.
An alternative is that they got lots of transmissions from the colony, telling them about the facehuggers and alien attacks before the transmitter is damaged. Then they send a heavily-armed and larger task force to deal with multiple aliens, and a W-Y security team with scientists deployed to secure the derelict ship, and ICC and ECA officials paid off because the public is told that it's "some infestation" that can be dealt with using "our troops".
That can be the context of the cartoon; also, it'll be so full of content they could even make it a series of features, if not something like a mini-series. For prequels to that, they could even use River of Pain, followed by Out of the Shadows as a spin-off, with other spin-offs to be considered (like some colonists able to escape, and depicting what happens to them, as well as Alien: Isolation).
Quote from: ralfy on Dec 31, 2023, 03:05:19 AMAbout making it back to earth, I read that there was one unused script for the third movie depicting that, i.e., an Earth-like town but created in a space station.
It was shithouse.
https://youtu.be/5lQPd2vwh6c?si=7kBFek70OWIJkcbr
Quote from: SiL on Dec 31, 2023, 03:10:02 AMEric Red's script.
Which served as the basis for
Heart of Darkness.
It did what?
Unless there's an Alien story by that name it's an odd joke I'm to waterlogged to get.
Probably the RPG module?
It's a little-known fact that Eric Red was a major influence on Joseph Conrad.
Western literature owes an Eric Red a great debt.
Quote from: SM on Jan 02, 2024, 06:54:39 AMProbably the RPG module?
Yeah, the 3rd cinematic one was called Heart of Darkness. Granted I've only played it twice but I can't really think of any similarities to Eric Red's script?
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jan 02, 2024, 08:41:49 AMQuote from: SM on Jan 02, 2024, 06:54:39 AMProbably the RPG module?
Yeah, the 3rd cinematic one was called Heart of Darkness. Granted I've only played it twice but I can't really think of any similarities to Eric Red's script?
The station turning into a giant Xenomorph (Proto-Hive in the RPG).
Ah! Fair enough! I'd completely forgotten about that.
Aliens: What If... #2 was just solicited as part of a 5 issue series.
WHAT IF... the Alien had killed Ripley and Jones had to escape the Nostromo on his own
WHAT IF... Bishop hadn't knicked his finger while doing the knife-game with Hudson
WHAT IF... Ripley didn't know how to pilot a power loader and had to fist-fight the Alien Queen like god intended
WHAT IF... Charles Bishop Weyland and Peter Weyland got in a staring contest
ALIENS: WHAT IF...? #2 (OF 5)
Paul Reiser, Leon Reiser, Adam F. Goldberg, Hans Rodionoff & Brian Volk-Weiss (W)
Guiu Vilanova (A) • Cover by Phil Noto • VARIANT COVER BY LUCIO PARRILLO
VARIANT COVER BY DAVID LOPEZ • VARIANT COVER BY TBA
WHAT IF...CARTER BURKE HAD LIVED?
Thirty-five years after the disaster on Hadleys Hope, company man Carter Burke is eeking out a cursed existence on a backwater asteroid. With his once-promising career in the toilet, Burke's only remaining purpose in life is to care for his daughter, Brie. She hates him, probably for being a horrible person. And when she finds out what he's up to now? It's not going to be a friendly reunion. Has Burke learned his lesson, or is he about to get all of his companions killed again?
32 PGS./Parental Advisory...$3.99
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https://aiptcomics.com/2024/01/25/full-april-2024-marvel-comics-solicitations/
I don't know what surprises me more; this wasn't a one shot, or that they're going with a 65 year old Burke.
Quote from: SiL on Jan 26, 2024, 09:51:52 PMI don't know what surprises me more; this wasn't a one shot, or that they're going with a 65 year old Burke.
Old Man Burke.
Good cover. Strange premise, but I'll bite, let's see what they've got.
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Him holding the egg... That definitely lends credence to the theory that they're going to write Burke putting the egg on the Sulaco.
He wouldn't be able to carry an egg unless he'd already been impregnated. So he gets cocooned, impregnated, manages to struggle free, stashes the egg for revenge?
That would be pretty hilarious. People are already mad enough about Newt and Hicks dying. Imagine finding out f**king Burke managed to kill them.
I'm wondering if this What If series will tie-in with Marvel's Aliens: Aftermath, which also took place in 2214...
Burke is a robot.
Not bothered getting any of the other marvel alien books, but I've put out a subscription on this. Sounds interesting. Maybe crazy and awful, but interesting.
Thats one small egg...
So did he have a daughter after the events of Aliens?
If not, then canon!
Quote from: Wweyland on Jan 28, 2024, 01:46:17 PMThats one small egg...
So did he have a daughter after the events of Aliens?
If not, then canon!
Thanks, didn't even notice. Damn that egg is so small! :laugh:
Quote from: Still Collating... on Jan 29, 2024, 08:52:36 PMQuote from: Wweyland on Jan 28, 2024, 01:46:17 PMThats one small egg...
So did he have a daughter after the events of Aliens?
If not, then canon!
Thanks, didn't even notice. Damn that egg is so small! :laugh:
How is the egg not hatching to get his ass? Usually the egg wakes up when a viable host is around.
I'm telling you - he's a goddamn robot.
Quote from: Mr.Turok on Jan 30, 2024, 03:53:22 AMQuote from: Still Collating... on Jan 29, 2024, 08:52:36 PMQuote from: Wweyland on Jan 28, 2024, 01:46:17 PMThats one small egg...
So did he have a daughter after the events of Aliens?
If not, then canon!
Thanks, didn't even notice. Damn that egg is so small! :laugh:
How is the egg not hatching to get his ass? Usually the egg wakes up when a viable host is around.
He's just THAT repulsive.
"Looks like love at first sight to me. Oh, he likes you, Burke."
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Alien What If #3 of 5
Paul Reiser, Leon Reiser, Adam F. Goldberg, Hans Rodionoff & Brian Volk-Weiss (W)
Guiu Vilanova (A) • Cover by Phil Noto • Variant Cover by MAHMUD ASRAR
Variant Cover by STEPHEN MOONEY
WHAT IF...CARTER BURKE HAD LIVED? The facehuggers hit the fan as Burke's plan goes horribly awry! Desperate to capture the life-saving adaptative qualities of Xenomorph DNA – without Weyland-Yutani's knowledge – Burke and his only friend, a damaged combat synth named Cygnus, have brought Burke's own worst nightmare right into his living room. The trap is set – now they need a victim to snap it. What the hell is Burke doing, and how does his daughter, Brie, fit into all this?
32 PGS./Parental Advisory...$3.99
LMAO THIS LOOKS MENTAL
More like Aliens: What The Hell
Quote from: TilotnyWorshiper28 on Feb 24, 2024, 06:00:51 PMhttps://www.gamesradar.com/marvel-comics-may-2024-solicitations-covers/
https://i0.wp.com/comicbookdispatch.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/02/WHATIFALIENS2023003_cov.jpg?w=1440&ssl=1
Alien What If #3 of 5
Paul Reiser, Leon Reiser, Adam F. Goldberg, Hans Rodionoff & Brian Volk-Weiss (W)
Guiu Vilanova (A) • Cover by Phil Noto • Variant Cover by MAHMUD ASRAR
Variant Cover by STEPHEN MOONEY
WHAT IF...CARTER BURKE HAD LIVED? The facehuggers hit the fan as Burke's plan goes horribly awry! Desperate to capture the life-saving adaptative qualities of Xenomorph DNA – without Weyland-Yutani's knowledge – Burke and his only friend, a damaged combat synth named Cygnus, have brought Burke's own worst nightmare right into his living room. The trap is set – now they need a victim to snap it. What the hell is Burke doing, and how does his daughter, Brie, fit into all this?
32 PGS./Parental Advisory...$3.99
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Why does he have a flame thrower that was a custom jerry-rigged contraption on a long destroyed starship?
Why is that the least weird thing about any of this?
This better be funny.
what ifs are usually something that can be super serious or funny so this one could go either way
His suit style has not changed after 30 years
Nehru collars never go out of style.
Quote from: SiL on Feb 24, 2024, 10:30:51 PMWhy does he have a flame thrower that was a custom jerry-rigged contraption on a long destroyed starship?
Why is that the least weird thing about any of this?
Typically the cover artists are only drawing details from previous media releases so the covers won't always reflect what is seen within the pages of the comic itself *fingers crossed* Hopefully, they come up with a couple more creative weapons and outfits for this series.
Preview of issue #1 is available to view! The interior art reminds me of
Spoiler
Aliens: Fire and Stone
.
https://comicbookclublive.com/2024/03/01/marvel-preview-aliens-what-if-1/
The word "goddamn" is censored.
Whisky. Tango. FOXTROT.
Even better, it's more censored than f**k and f**king. Amazing.
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Quote from: Slutty Badger on Mar 03, 2024, 05:58:57 PMThe word "goddamn" is censored.
Whisky. Tango. FOXTROT.
Sounds like Golic has been language-policing.
It's okay to say 'f@#*'. It ain't against God.
Quote from: TilotnyWorshiper28 on Mar 03, 2024, 04:56:13 PMhttps://comicbookclublive.com/2024/03/01/marvel-preview-aliens-what-if-1/
Respect that these don't look like traced/PSed screencaps from the film. I'm liking the visuals so far.
Quote from: Slutty Badger on Mar 03, 2024, 05:58:57 PMThe word "goddamn" is censored.
Whisky. Tango. FOXTROT.
How very random and hilarious. :laugh:
Quote from: Slutty Badger on Mar 03, 2024, 05:58:57 PMThe word "goddamn" is censored.
Whisky. Tango. FOXTROT.
Always confused me when in radio edits of songs, they'd censor the word "god" but not "damn" (example: "Life in the Fast Lane" by the Eagles). Like, which one is the bad word here?
Pretty cool re-creation of the Ops battle.
I saw an "alternate" "What if" cover for an Aliens story on Facebook (not sure if a continuation of the Burke storyline), but it had a woman in yellow Mech Armor (kind of like Powerloader or MAX armor).
Not sure what that was about, but I cannot find it anymore.
Quote from: Wweyland on Mar 05, 2024, 03:57:08 PMPretty cool re-creation of the Ops battle.
I saw an "alternate" "What if" cover for an Aliens story on Facebook (not sure if a continuation of the Burke storyline), but it had a woman in yellow Mech Armor (kind of like Powerloader or MAX armor).
Not sure what that was about, but I cannot find it anymore.
It's on the Xenopedia page.
just read #1 it was insane
Quote from: TilotnyWorshiper28 on Mar 06, 2024, 06:15:37 PMjust read #1 it was insane
So happy this is a five issue series!
I'm 12 pages in and wow...
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that must be a really strong grenade to have reached all the way over from the colony to the processor and jolted Burke out of the resin like that...
:P :-X Oooops.
They really leaned in hard on trying to make Burke sympathetic and then dropping that last splash! I'm definitely curious to see where they're going.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Mar 07, 2024, 02:40:38 PMSpoiler
that must be a really strong grenade to have reached all the way over from the colony to the processor and jolted Burke out of the resin like that...
...wat.
It might have just been a coincidental explosion at the same time.
I also had a chance to glance through this, it is insane.
And besides the deleted Burke cocoon scene, you could make a case that it's not a "What if", but it actually all happened.
Quote from: Wweyland on Mar 07, 2024, 03:58:31 PMIt might have just been a coincidental explosion at the same time.
I also had a chance to glance through this, it is insane.
And besides the deleted Burke cocoon scene, you could make a case that it's not a "What if", but it actually all happened.
Then it would definitely retcon
Dark Mother, and I think we can all agree that that's a good thing.
I was totally surprised! I haven't read a really good Alien comic in years! It was great!
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Mar 07, 2024, 02:40:38 PMSpoiler
that must be a really strong grenade to have reached all the way over from the colony to the processor and jolted Burke out of the resin like that...
Wait, you mean
Spoiler
the one Gorman used ?
At first, I thought this story was going to be shoe horned in plot and just be another unnecessary addition to the series but now I'm looking forward to the next issue. Everything here fits into place actually and has no conflict with other established films and stories.
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It's interesting how Burke had a sudden change of heart of taking the "merciful" route of giving Ripley and the rest a chance of survival on Fury 161 when he was very willing to have them impregnated by the xenomorphs.
Burke taking the fall for WY when their plans for taking an egg for them and the destruction of LV426 is such a WY thing to do and a Burke thing to happen to him.
How taking a xenomorph, even an egg, back to Earth is strongly emphasized as game over for humanity. It's a nice welcome of respecting the xenomorph threat where recent stories just have them pop up on Earth like its not a really huge deal.
Seems like humanity is now publicly aware of the xenomorph threat where in past stories its just hear say and bar room stories, with Burke now seen as an outright traitor of humanity. Goddamm he really is that one dude huh
Looking at the ending, wonder what is he going to do with that? Feels like I can't get a read on his moral center and goals, which is a good thing, it keeps me on my toes for now and I hope it pays off.
I can't believe that "insane" is being used so often to describe a Burke What If comic, I'm gonna have to check this out!
Quote from: Wweyland on Mar 07, 2024, 03:58:31 PMIt might have just been a coincidental explosion at the same time.
Might have been! But that's not how the comic feels that moment is being portrayed.
QuoteAnd besides the deleted Burke cocoon scene, you could make a case that it's not a "What if", but it actually all happened.
Aside from the above about the grenade, I completely agree with you. They did a fantastic job making this feel like it could slot into what actually happened.
Quote from: Kradan on Mar 07, 2024, 08:03:28 PMQuote from: Corporal Hicks on Mar 07, 2024, 02:40:38 PMSpoiler
that must be a really strong grenade to have reached all the way over from the colony to the processor and jolted Burke out of the resin like that...
Wait, you mean
Spoiler
the one Gorman used ?
Yep!
My eyes nearly rolled out of my head at...
Spoiler
the Mr. Yutani stuff.
Also, did Terry Crews lend his likeness here? I must admit, the real interesting part is in the first half of the first issue, the 30 years later stuff is not that captivating.
If this wasn't What If I'd say it was garbage.
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The whole concept of the Hadley incident taking down the entire Company, Burke complaining about drifting in space forever - it's three weeks to get home, moustache twirly Yutani, the woman at the call centre knowing all about Burke and the colony and Aliens despite Yutani saying 'no one can know!' and there being an NDA, Burke saying he couldn't kill Ripley and the others - a couple of hours after he tried to Ripley and the others, Burke not mentioning maybe check out the whole ass ship he told the colonists to check out as a bargaining chip, 'The Outer Zeta 2 Reticuli' wut, William Gorman?
Not being tied to continuity mercifully means it could have a cool story, but as far as being true to the characters and setting - f**k me...
Does the company ship look like the Patna lander from the Alien 3 comic?
I don't think there was a Patna lander in the Alien 3 comic.
Quote from: SM on Mar 08, 2024, 09:44:46 PMIf this wasn't What If I'd say it was garbage.
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The whole concept of the Hadley incident taking down the entire Company, Burke complaining about drifting in space forever - it's three weeks to get home, moustache twirly Yutani, the woman at the call centre knowing all about Burke and the colony and Aliens despite Yutani saying 'no one can know!' and there being an NDA, Burke saying he couldn't kill Ripley and the others - a couple of hours after he tried to Ripley and the others, Burke not mentioning maybe check out the whole ass ship he told the colonists to check out as a bargaining chip, 'The Outer Zeta 2 Reticuli' wut, William Gorman?
Not being tied to continuity mercifully means it could have a cool story, but as far as being true to the characters and setting - f**k me...
How did you like the...
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real-time interstellar communication between Burke and Yutani? Is that a thing that happens in any of the Alien films?
Quote from: Local Trouble on Mar 09, 2024, 08:53:09 PMHow did you like the...
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real-time interstellar communication between Burke and Yutani? Is that a thing that happens in any of the Alien films?
Think it happens between Andrews and W-Y in A3, particularly the scene in which he informs the Company about Ripley, but I haven't seen it in a while.
They get fast responses later in the movie when the Patna is en route
Fast responses, but nothing on the level of real-time AV communication.
Quote from: Local Trouble on Mar 09, 2024, 08:53:09 PMQuote from: SM on Mar 08, 2024, 09:44:46 PMIf this wasn't What If I'd say it was garbage.
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The whole concept of the Hadley incident taking down the entire Company, Burke complaining about drifting in space forever - it's three weeks to get home, moustache twirly Yutani, the woman at the call centre knowing all about Burke and the colony and Aliens despite Yutani saying 'no one can know!' and there being an NDA, Burke saying he couldn't kill Ripley and the others - a couple of hours after he tried to Ripley and the others, Burke not mentioning maybe check out the whole ass ship he told the colonists to check out as a bargaining chip, 'The Outer Zeta 2 Reticuli' wut, William Gorman?
Not being tied to continuity mercifully means it could have a cool story, but as far as being true to the characters and setting - f**k me...
How did you like the...
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real-time interstellar communication between Burke and Yutani? Is that a thing that happens in any of the Alien films?
I didn't even think of that. I was probably eye rolling too hard.
ALIENS: WHAT IF...? #4 (OF 5)
Paul Reiser, Leon Reiser, Adam F. Goldberg, Hans Rodionoff & Brian Volk-Weiss (W)
Guiu Vilanova (A) • Cover by Phil Noto • Variant Cover by SALVADOR LARROCA
WHAT IF...CARTER BURKE HAD LIVED?
Or more importantly, what if Carter Burke was about to die a different, even more horrible death?! Xenomorphs are loose on the mining asteroid where Burke's made his small sad life and even-more-insignificant career. Panic is about to break out, slaughter to follow – and once again, it's all Burke's fault. Is this justice at last for the consummate company man? Or is there more to Burke's character hidden beneath the mountain of mistakes?
32 PGS./Parental Advisory...$3.99
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Burke face it pretty much "I should've picked a different job"
I can already tell that the next what if is gonna be if Hicks and Newt survived.
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*hoping that somebody else didn't post that in this thread.
Damnit you third page guys!
Honestly, I'd just like to see them continue from Gibson's Alien 3 adaptation.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Apr 04, 2024, 08:53:34 AMHonestly, I'd just like to see them continue from Gibson's Alien 3 adaptation.
Yup
I can't wait to see that question answered in comic book form for the third time!!!
Quote from: BlueMarsalis79 on Apr 04, 2024, 01:24:24 PMI can't wait to see that question answered in comic book form for the third time!!!
True. Gibson's Alien 3 comic adaptation WAS a "What If..." series.
Dazu, I have hoping this was a thread to post what if stuff like: what if Ripley didn't find Chappie before cryo sleep? :D
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Apr 04, 2024, 08:53:34 AMHonestly, I'd just like to see them continue from Gibson's Alien 3 adaptation.
I'm sure I've told this story before but when they were doing the Gibson one and I told Steve they should do the other scripts, and then have the survivors of each one team up for an all out Avengers Assemble scenario fighting the Aliens.
Never got a response to that one. Can't imagine why.
Quote from: Kimarhi on Apr 04, 2024, 05:20:02 AMI can already tell that the next what if is gonna be if Hicks and Newt survived.
It'll break the fourth wall to show a lot fewer upset people in the audience.
Another solid issue!
I really enjoyed #2
Best description of this comic is "inconsistent".
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The Company blames Burke for the deaths at Hadley Hope as if that's incorrect.
He started a fire that launched the EEV down to Fiorina - yet there was an actual Alien on Fiorina. Was it on the Sulaco and he missed it. Would've solved a lot of problems.
The second issue is a bit funnier with the office stuff - but it's a bit too Office Space. Like Burke is living in a simulation of an office from 20 years ago rather than the 23rd century.
When I first saw solicitations for this series I thoughts: "Really, that's what we are doing now, what ifs?" But then I realized that it isn't really anything new for the franchise. We got adaptations of alternate screenplays, that basicly were what ifs scenarios, original Varhaiden's comics retroactivly became what ifs, and Blomkamp's concept for movie looked like one big what if. So I read first issue with clear mind and I enjoyed it. I like its attempt to make us empathise with Burke more and show his more human side. And I did sympathize with him a bit seeing how he was struggling with his boring life and job. But then we see glimpse of his old, scheming self. So yeah, I'm interested how it would continue.
Quote from: Kimarhi on Apr 04, 2024, 05:20:02 AMI can already tell that the next what if is gonna be if Hicks and Newt survived.
EDIT:
*hoping that somebody else didn't post that in this thread.
Damnit you third page guys!
Havent they done the "Hicks and Newt" survived already about 4 times?
To be fair the first time they actually survived.
Quote from: Slutty Badger on Dec 29, 2023, 06:53:06 PMI'd like to see this story approach taken to other Alien films.
What if Jacob Branson was able to escape his cryotube?
What if Daniels and Tennessee sniffed out David before going into cryosleep?
What if Ripley 8 decided to throw in her lot with the Xenos?
Seriously, so many questions that should be asked...
I especially like the Ripley 8 idea. * * * * *
This has been the best of the Marvel Alien comics so far by a significant margin.
This comic was... pretty mediocre. Some of it was entertaining. Some of it is the pretty typical "What?" response to the poor writing teams at Marvel that have plagued the titles from the beginning of reboot with the story about the college kids who break into a high security orbital space station by... stealing a badge, then the company sends... three guys to investigate.
I have a fun idea for the next "What If?" Aliens title. What if they finally hire someone who can write a decent story?
I'm still waiting for issue 2...