http://www.dreadcentral.com/news/48959/give-thanks-some-wicked-new-and-official-prometheus-stills (http://www.dreadcentral.com/news/48959/give-thanks-some-wicked-new-and-official-prometheus-stills)
f**k yeah!
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Looking a little plasticy, but they do look like mostly stills for the public, not for the movie.
EDIT:
Quick analysis:
The ship is called the Prometheus. There is an ampule room, so we now got a name on that - ampules are used to collect samples of liquids, including DNA, which probably serves its importance in the film. Idris Elba be rocking a company shirt, and there's an interesting eagle and sun logo painted onto the suits and on the metal pin that make me think of the Weylan-Yutani logo from ALIEN.
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Suits are looking a little flashy, but the movie is looking good.
*jizz*
I just came...
Quote from: MrSpaceJockey on Nov 23, 2011, 12:23:55 AM
Quick analysis:
Idris Elba be rocking a company shirt, and there's an interesting eagle and sun logo painted onto the suits and on the metal pin that make me think of the Weylan-Yutani logo from ALIEN.
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Crappily put into visual form for you guys.
I don't know what to say....f*************k!
Mm Giger sets.
I wonder if this proves not only were we created in the Space Jockey's image, but reguardless wether Prometheus turns out to be a prequel to ALIEN or not, was the creature from that film wearing a bio-suite as has been suggested by Scott himself, and if it was, could the occupant inside have been more human than anyone was expecting... just a thought, but I'm hoping not!!
Quote from: MrSpaceJockey on Nov 23, 2011, 12:23:55 AM
f**k yeah!
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Looking a little plasticy, but they do look like mostly stills for the public, not for the movie.
I wouldn't be suprised if this picture turns out to be the official movie poster
Christ, this is looking good. Wish the spacesuits were a bit more bulky and less form-fitting, though.
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Just because I'm a complete spacker for anything to do with Egypt.
And this is where my involvement with any thread related to Prometheus officially ends until I've seen it. Where did I put those pants?....
Quote from: RoaryUK on Nov 23, 2011, 01:00:23 AM
I wonder if this proves not only were we created in the Space Jockey's image, but reguardless wether Prometheus turns out to be a prequel to ALIEN or not, was the creature from that film wearing a bio-suite as has been suggested by Scott himself, and if it was, could the occupant inside have been more human than anyone was expecting... just a thought, but I'm hoping not!!
Quote from: MrSpaceJockey on Nov 23, 2011, 12:23:55 AM
f**k yeah!
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Looking a little plasticy, but they do look like mostly stills for the public, not for the movie.
I wouldn't be suprised if this picture turns out to be the official movie poster
I was really thinking the same thing when I first seen that pic. and what an awesome poster that would be.
Added the scans without the tags to the news post.
http://www.avpgalaxy.net/2011/11/23/new-prometheus-production-stills/#more-8329 (http://www.avpgalaxy.net/2011/11/23/new-prometheus-production-stills/#more-8329)
Whats with the heads in the big picture? they look shopped on?
Not saying they are fake or anything, they just look a bit weird.
Giant face is boss.
What are they looking at?
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Quote from: Alienhunter15 on Nov 23, 2011, 01:33:39 AM
What are they looking at?
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Probably the screencaps from the leaked trailer.
Totally awesome. That head looks incredibly massive, way bigger than I was expecting. Very intriguing.
Jeah, the faces just cross the area of the headline, were cut out...as well the whole look is quite shiny/clean for the photos.
They should look much darker and dirtier in the final version. Well, i can live with those images.
I think that the cockpit of the Prometheus looks too much like JJ's Star Trek.
However, compare that still:
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(Is that a holo table in the back?)
To the leaked Comic Con still:
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/gallery/albums/movies/prometheus/trailers/comicon08.jpg)
After color grading and so forth the tone should be appropriately dark like Ridley stated a while back. These stills are merely production snapshots taken directly from the RED camera so there aren't any effects or filters yet.
Another BIG question is how come the visitors can breathe without their helmets. I didn't think they were on LV426 anyway, but where ever this place is, the top picture (from link) suggests the it's already habitable, and the occupants breathe oxygen same as we do... is this another clue to who we/they are??
The STY.com ones are in sightly better quality I think. You can make out the logos better.
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Could be lighting, but if Green's logo is red compared to the others silver, it could be stating his captaincy, like Dallas' gold wings to the rest's blue on the Nostromo.
I'm sorry guys. I like logos.
Looks good, can't wait.
Because of this, I'm pretty sure we can expect a trailer very soon. Hopefully within the next week or two.
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Looking closer, those shiny panels are actually buttons. Thank goodness, because touchscreens everywhere = Star Wars prequels overhaul.
oh my god !!
give me trailer now !!!
A few more weeks...a few more weeks...a few more weeks...
kinda bummed the face doesn't look more "other worldly". looks like tom cruise.
I'm assuming everything will be desaturated later. These are photoshoot things, right?
The pilot guy has the wing symbol on his T-shirt also.
Jeah, this symbol is everywhere since it is the company symbol :laugh:
Check out the origin of the symbols on the head - that's the real deal.
@ Alienseseses: Yeah.
QuoteI've always heard you want as much light as possible.
Scott: That's the downside.
But isn't Alien almost the antithesis of that because the movies have always been about shadow and darkness and hiding things.
Scott: That's what Jim said. The problem is you'll have to grade it later. You'll have to grit your teeth and light it not the way you'd like it. And then later, you're gonna have to regrade it. Repaint it. In fact, Avatar, when you think about it, is almost a completely animated movie.
http://collider.com/ridley-scott-confirms-alien-prequel-will-be-shot-in-3d/22944/ (http://collider.com/ridley-scott-confirms-alien-prequel-will-be-shot-in-3d/22944/)
Here are the stills with color grading:
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Did you do this yourself? Does look better.
Yes.
mass effect space suits
Wow these are awesome. The giant head keeps me interested and wanting for more!
Quote from: chupacabras acheronsis on Nov 23, 2011, 03:30:57 AM
mass effect space suits
Another quality comment courtesy of chupacabras acheronsis ;D
I agree though (not saying this is necessary a bad thing), I would have liked to have seen some plating on their stomachs and legs.
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"My torch is bigger than yours"
Everything is so sleek, its hard to take in that this is the same universe. Could an expensive, brand spanking new, scientific research vessel thats 30 years older look so much more sexy than a beat down, second-hand tug?
Yes, just look at how advanced NASA's technology already was way back in 1969 when they landed on the moon. It set the foreshadow for most of the technology we have now.
Also, I believe that some of Alien's old technology will be seen throughout the ship as well.
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/gallery/albums/movies/prometheus/trailers/comicon19.jpg)
Everything looks pretty old fashioned in that still.
oh oh :-\
Spoiler
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Please, don't start this.
Quote from: Never say no to Panda! on Nov 23, 2011, 03:54:26 AM
oh oh :-\
Spoiler
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That's pretty funny, yeah Ridley Scott is insane enough to tie Alien 5 to AVP-R Wolf Predator right :D
Def feeling the giant human face statue, pretty creepy.
Quote from: JaaayDee on Nov 23, 2011, 03:51:07 AM
Yes, just look at how advanced NASA's technology already was way back in 1969 when they landed on the moon. It set the foreshadow for most of the technology we have now.
Also, I believe that some of Alien's old technology will be seen throughout the ship as well.
http://www.avpgalaxy.net/gallery/albums/movies/prometheus/trailers/comicon19.jpg
Everything looks pretty old fashioned in that still.
Also,
Scientists in a laboratory, a la the Prometheus:
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.visualphotos.com%2Fphoto%2F2x4561008%2FScientists_working_in_laboratory_pe0068993.jpg&hash=066d5cfdc425e38ec2dfb4df65179426bfb2f762)
Miners on a rig, a la the Narcissus:
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.indyposted.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2010%2F11%2FPicture-Of-Miners.jpg&hash=92dba186e788f24ba882f6b969bfef3c7f4b88de)
You kind of see where this is going, right?
No one looked like that on the
Nostromo though. They were tug jockies; not miners.
QuoteEverything is so sleek, its hard to take in that this is the same universe. Could an expensive, brand spanking new, scientific research vessel thats 30 years older look so much more sexy than a beat down, second-hand tug?
I thought the same thing. Mind you, the Sulaco was generally all shiny and new looking. And to be honest so was A-Deck of the Nostromo. It just looked messy and cramped, because the art direction was 'busy'. And more than that it looked lived in.
Too soon to judge from the stills, but it does seem to carry a bit of Star Trek/ 2001 aesthetic in the space suits.
Quote from: JaaayDee on Nov 23, 2011, 04:02:55 AM
Quote from: JaaayDee on Nov 23, 2011, 03:51:07 AM
Yes, just look at how advanced NASA's technology already was way back in 1969 when they landed on the moon. It set the foreshadow for most of the technology we have now.
Also, I believe that some of Alien's old technology will be seen throughout the ship as well.
http://www.avpgalaxy.net/gallery/albums/movies/prometheus/trailers/comicon19.jpg
Everything looks pretty old fashioned in that still.
Also,
Scientists in a laboratory, a la the Prometheus:
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.visualphotos.com%2Fphoto%2F2x4561008%2FScientists_working_in_laboratory_pe0068993.jpg&hash=066d5cfdc425e38ec2dfb4df65179426bfb2f762)
Miners on a rig, a la the Narcissus:
http://images.indyposted.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/Picture-Of-Miners.jpg
You kind of see where this is going, right?
Yeah, and have been convinced...though there would be no reason for the
outside of the ship to look that way. Wonder how it does fare.
Quote from: SM on Nov 23, 2011, 04:07:01 AM
I thought the same thing. Mind you, the Sulaco was generally all shiny and new looking. And to be honest so was A-Deck of the Nostromo. It just looked messy and cramped, because the art direction was 'busy'. And more than that it looked lived in.
Too soon to judge from the stills, but it does seem to carry a bit of Star Trek/ 2001 aesthetic in the space suits.
If we do take it that it is not a prequel, maybe not in the same universe, it won't matter as much I suppose. And just sticking in an excuse, though I still can't really judge anything as of now, scientists aren't the type to have porno lying around and nude chicks on the walls. Research vessel wouldn't be as "lived in" in general, I would think.
The funny thing is that I didn't doubt Prometheus as a prequel that much until these stills came up.
Forgive me for being brash, but you'd have to be blind to not see that these Giger-esque designs aren't set in the same universe.
QuoteAnd just sticking in an excuse, though I still can't really judge anything as of now, scientists aren't the type to have porno lying around and nude chicks on the walls.
Depends if they wanted to challenge the stereotype I guess.
Quote from: MrSpaceJockey on Nov 23, 2011, 04:11:46 AM
Yeah, and have been convinced...though there would be no reason for the outside of the ship to look that way. Wonder how it does fare.
These look pretty fine to me:
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(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/gallery/albums/movies/prometheus/setpics/setpic30.jpg)
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/gallery/albums/movies/prometheus/setpics/setpic25.jpg)
Quote from: m138jewski on Nov 23, 2011, 02:59:19 AM
kinda bummed the face doesn't look more "other worldly". looks like tom cruise.
Yeah this bothered me too, I mean a statue of that size must have some significance. Bearing in mind we've now seen a place most likely not Earth but breathable, could this really be how the Gods look (which I doubt) or is it the engineers (Space Jockeys) in their true form. Another thing also leads me to think the Jockeys might be humanoid, Scott has always referred to them as "the higher being who challenged the Gods", but could this really mean the Space Jockey's were an advance form of humanity in bio-suites? Our future you might say, who steel this fire (in the form of an urn) from the Gods. They end up on Earth which is terraformed using a pure form of alien, that we've also heard much about, and use this "fire" to create more of themelves before the Gods eventually catch up with them. We know from Scott the Gods deal these Jockeys a terrible fate, so perhaps they were bannished to LV-426 and the alien set against them, which in turn breeds a new creature. Years later an archaeological dig on Earth reveals the key to our creation, a team is sent to investigate but someone gets greedy and the whole thing repeats itself, only this time the Gods were ready, they already knew where we came from and prepare to unleash their wrath on all humanity.
...Not too different from the original synopsis, which FOX denied, but probably way off the mark anyway, lol.
The head could symbolize a human lifeform as well. This room might be a storage for "human DNA"...maybe it is some kind of starter kit. Create life on a planet, drop those heads so people can pray to 'em. There are hundreds of theories out there :laugh:
I don't think that they would spoil such a thing with promo images...
Quote from: JaaayDee on Nov 23, 2011, 03:56:12 AM
Please, don't start this.
Agreed... that's just asking for trouble! >:(
Quotecould this really be how the Gods look (which I doubt)
Depends if the Gods made humans in their image.
I think this face is found in a pyramid on earth as opposed to another planet? If not, and bringing this into the real world...if humanity was jump started by something else somewhere else, it makes sense that we resemble it to some degree. It's an easy stretch.
If it was found on Earth, then why are they wearing space suits?
...sans helmets.
Still, why would they be wearing space suits?
Farked if I know.
Just interesting they're wearing suits without helmets.
Kinda like the original Starbeast where Broussard takes his helmet off before he's hugged.
FYI... the footage at the Comic Con looked far better than those horribly clean and 'shopped photos. They must have been taken by the usual set photographer... without any post processing.
Be not afraid, Scott will deliver.
Can you tell whether the Comic Con footage looked similarly graded to this?:
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This color grading was done in photoshop in an attempt to visualize how the shot would look after post.
All dark and grainy you mean?
Quote from: JaaayDee on Nov 23, 2011, 05:31:34 AM
Can you tell whether the Comic Con footage looked similarly graded to this?:
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This color grading was done in photoshop in an attempt to visualize how the shot would look after post.
QuoteGoing off the footage I saw at Comic Con, the film's lighting is far more muted (i.e. closer to the original ALIEN) than what we're seeing here.
http://www.aintitcool.com/node/52057 (http://www.aintitcool.com/node/52057)
Quote from: SM on Nov 23, 2011, 05:38:18 AM
All dark and grainy you mean?
Yes, precisely. Thanks for your inquiry.
Quote from: Valaquen on Nov 23, 2011, 05:41:28 AM
Quote from: JaaayDee on Nov 23, 2011, 05:31:34 AM
Can you tell whether the Comic Con footage looked similarly graded to this?:
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi41.tinypic.com%2Feqb5dx.jpg&hash=10b29daaea517cee7c7fbe1c3cfcd7fb9867ed43)
This color grading was done in photoshop in an attempt to visualize how the shot would look after post.
QuoteGoing off the footage I saw at Comic Con, the film's lighting is far more muted (i.e. closer to the original ALIEN) than what we're seeing here.
http://www.aintitcool.com/node/52057 (http://www.aintitcool.com/node/52057)
I knew it.
QuoteYes, precisely.
Better not. That 'shop job looks shithouse.
I appreciate your honesty. But I'm still pretty sure that it looks better then what EW gave us.
Otherwise, would you please grade your own version and kindly post it up here to spite me, because right now you're coming off to me as severely arrogant.
QuoteI appreciate your honesty. But I'm still pretty sure that it looks better than what EW gave us.
Dunno about that. Foreground lighting on the characters looks way too dark.
QuoteOtherwise, would you please grade your own version and post it up here to spite me, because right now you're coming off to me as severely arrogant.
Too bad? If I had Photoshop handy I might have a crack, but I'm a bit better with Combustion on that sort of thing. If, of course it would make any difference to anything. Which it won't. I'm sure anything that ends up on screen will look infinitely better than magazine scans and low res stuff shot on mobile phones of Comic Con footage.
lightning's fine, you just messed up the graning.
now try making it dark as shit and then silvering until it looks almost black and white ala Cameron.
Or just make it too dark a la Strause(s). ;D
Those suits remind of the the fantastic 4 movie suits. :-\ bust with helmets on
Hadn't thought of that, but yeah there is a bit of Fantastic Four in there. Mind you the chest and shoulder stuff breaks it up. On Theron, not so much. Not necessarily a bad thing though.
It just needs more plating like the original. All that bare spandex does start to look uncanny for Alien-esque space suits.
Some turd on imdb has been complaining about a teal filter on the images. Is there truth to this?
Shithouse V2:
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Definate improvement in lighting on the talent.
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;D
Probably the best I could go with plebeian software.
That one larger shot of the urn silo....it looks like they're inspecting an egg like object a la alien?
It looks different from the other urns as well. Hmmph...
The armor/plating looks awesome, in my opinion. Yeah, the jumpsuits are pretty... figure-fitting, but it gives a bit of a 60's-retro vibe, though arguably not fitting in with the established universe's look. But whatever, it's a science vessel. They look science-y. The upper-body armor... case makes me jelly.
To be perfectly honest, these pictures have left me feeling disappointed. The bridge looks very much like Star Trek, as opposed to Alien and the space suits resemble some kind of RoboCop action figure. I know that this can be explained in-universe via the white vs blue collar rational but frankly, it's not aesthetically pleasing to my eye.
Also, while we don't know the purpose of the giant head at this point, I was really hoping that it would have looked much more like a Giger humanoid. I'm left feeling rather worried that the Space Jockies are going to look more or less the same as us humans.
Consider my expectations significantly lowered for Prometheus. Although, that's probably a very good thing as I'm less likely to leave the cinema feeling disappointed.
Also, please don't respond with any "haters gonna hate" type of comments. I've been a huge supporter of Prometheus up till this moment, but I'm not going to pretend I'm happy with these pictures and deny my true opinion.
everyone is too good looking. I didn't find the original cast very attractive. everyone in this is to hot. are they minors or some expensive science ship?
Total disappointment!
:o YAY :o
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Quote from: SM on Nov 23, 2011, 04:55:43 AM
Quotecould this really be how the Gods look (which I doubt)
Depends if the Gods made humans in their image.
Certainly is an intriguing question, not one I'm even sure I want to find out. You would think any God creates something in their image, but then this is the alien universe, so maybe things aren't as straight forward as they seem. I do feel the head strongly indicates humans are their creation, but so could the Jockey if the story idea of Prometheus holds up, and most likely ends with them aiding the humans having stole from the Gods in the first place now I think about it.
This movie is starting to show signs of a few things I don't wanna see....hopefully I'm very wrong!
See guys.
Told ya so about the humanoids Engineers.
Taller Humans with Giger's biomechanics features.
God created man at his own image.
As for the rest just check my past post you'll see i was right all along.
Even about the kids...
Now as for the production designs, well it's clearly Ron Cobb style and not at all star trek.
But Clean thats all. These are on set photos, someone quoted Scott before and yes the set have to be overly lit to shoot in 3D then work the photography in post.
Bit disapointed by the suits tho, a bit too slick for my taste.
I was expecting RED PLANET suits, regular kinda military spacesuit but with a tighter fit.
Noomi Rapace look 1000x cooler and attractive than Charlize Theron in a futuristic outfit. Maybe they wanted to uglify Charlize on purpose... ???
Let's get some things in context. First of all the main photo for this spread was clearly staged, as it looks like the photos with Theron and Elba is staged as well, or held for EWs cameraman. Knowing that, for me at least, my excitement for this film has now doubled. Letting what we see derail the momentum, or our own personal exhuberance may call into question how much faith we actually have in Ridley Scott. (im not saying he can do no wrong, but let the entirety of the film speak for itself) I'm not calling anyone a hater, and having a healthy dose of skepticism is a wise thing. There's a big risk when you release images out of context, and by now, all of what we've been able to see has been pretty goddamned awesome. Letting a couple of photos take away that awesomeness is sad,especially when there's been twice as many stills and images that tell us what's in store. It's like seeing a field of flowers, and then being disappointed when we see some other, not as pretty flowers along the edges.
Not digging the Prometheus bridge, but fudge it. They're behind the scenes stills. If they were screenshots I'd be worried.
Well people have the right to be disapointed and to not like the esthetic.
As always there some kind of backlash when a movie is reaching such expectations.
Happened to Cameron with AVATAR whit the first teaser, it will happen here too.
Ya, not digging it either, it's too generic, it should be more rusty, and it's too colorful, but maybe it'll be a matter of post-processing'n'shit. However Dariusz Wolski is not Darius Khondji...Let's see how it will look in a finished movie.
Quote from: Engineer1 on Nov 23, 2011, 09:31:49 AM
Happened to Cameron with AVATAR whit the first teaser, it will happen here too.
But we know how it ended.
So you're saying this is going to be an overrated unoriginal uncreative piece of tripe, then. Great.
Despite the screens on the bridge not being 8-bit, they're actually closer to what Cobb and co would draw for their concept art back in the 70s than what made it to the screen.
Quote from: Salt The Fries on Nov 23, 2011, 09:34:00 AM
Ya, not digging it either, it's too generic, it should be more rusty, and it's too colorful, but maybe it'll be a matter of post-processing'n'shit.
Why do we still expect grungy? It's not a tug, it's an exploratory vessel. You don't expect the inside of a cruise ship to look like the interior of a submarine.
^ Good point, but I'm afraid it might be too colorful for my liking, and I don't want it to be a close relative of Star Trek 2009. I'm very happy with what Khondji did in Alien: Resurrection and his cinematography suited it perfectly (and actually was a lot better than what this movie ended up being), but then again I love his work in other movies regardless. However, Wolski also shot Dark City which had quite a unique visual style, so he might prove me wrong...
I was talking about expectations.
You have two great directors back on scifi projects after years.
Whatever they do you'll get the usual backlash because people always make their own movies before seeing the first image.
Taste has nothing to do with my comparaison.
If you don't like AVATAR well it's your problem.
Seriously people are going to bitch about the cinematography based on behind the scene et photoshoped promo shots?
And don't forget the fact that the sets are overlit for 3D purpose...
You guys deserve more credit than that no?
I don't get the negativity over the modernization of the bridge. Alien is over 30 years old. These types of quirks are normal in movie making, especially with prequels where the before is oddly more advance to the former. The white vs blue collar ship escape route is a perfect band-aid plot wise. Eventually the ships power will fail as will everything else and once the blood hits the walls it'll be all good. :)
Quote from: Engineer1 on Nov 23, 2011, 09:57:44 AM
I was talking about expectations.
You have two great directors back on scifi projects after years.
Whatever they do you'll get the usual backlash because people always make their own movies before seeing the first image.
If you don't like AVATAR well it's your problem.
Overrated or whatever i don't give a fly f**k about what you think.
Easy there, let's be civil. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion.
I'll admit that this look a bit sleeker than I expected, but I don't really mind. I like the "Star Trek" look anyway. And as many people have already pointed out, it will probably be altered in post production. As it is now, it only looks okay.
Quote from: RidgeTop on Nov 23, 2011, 10:01:07 AM
Quote from: Engineer1 on Nov 23, 2011, 09:57:44 AM
I was talking about expectations.
You have two great directors back on scifi projects after years.
Whatever they do you'll get the usual backlash because people always make their own movies before seeing the first image.
If you don't like AVATAR well it's your problem.
Overrated or whatever i don't give a fly f**k about what you think.
Easy there, let's be civil. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion.
Modified that before you posted ;)
Quote from: Salt The Fries on Nov 23, 2011, 09:53:58 AM
^ Good point, but I'm afraid it might be too colorful for my liking,
In that regard I agree.
Quote from: Engineer1 on Nov 23, 2011, 09:57:44 AM
Taste has nothing to do with my comparaison.
If you don't like AVATAR well it's your problem.
Has everything to do with it.
I saw the previews and was disappointed. I saw the movie, and lo and behold, my early concerns were proved right -- the movie was a complete let-down. Saying "Don't worry, people complained about this other movie as well, and look how it turned out" fails if the example you use is of a film people didn't like.
OMG! Fantastic 4 in ALIEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ;D
I loved everything except the space suits. Its like "Space Cop - Special Forces against Alien crime". But there's a reason to the design, I guess, since there will be a lot of action in this film, with running and jumping in the outside, as we saw in the leaked trailer... I would be hard to run wearing the heavy suits from the original Alien.
Quote from: SiL on Nov 23, 2011, 10:23:26 AM
Quote from: Salt The Fries on Nov 23, 2011, 09:53:58 AM
^ Good point, but I'm afraid it might be too colorful for my liking,
In that regard I agree.
Quote from: Engineer1 on Nov 23, 2011, 09:57:44 AM
Taste has nothing to do with my comparaison.
If you don't like AVATAR well it's your problem.
Has everything to do with it.
I saw the previews and was disappointed. I saw the movie, and lo and behold, my early concerns were proved right -- the movie was a complete let-down. Saying "Don't worry, people complained about this other movie as well, and look how it turned out" fails if the example you use is of a film people didn't like.
Yep people hated it thats for sure...
The movie was a complete let down for YOU.
Probably because you were expecting a gritty hard R ALIENS redux and the movie was a family friendly pulp adventure scifi with an archetypal story. Pocahontas, dancing with wolves in Space, yeah sure that what the non literrate buch mostly said but me i tought more about John Carter and Lawrence of Arabia...
And even so it's not that original give this script to any other Hollywood hack and you get a really boring and probably poor visually movie. At least Cameron is a great storyteller, story and direction wise.
Whatever... You hate it.
Bad for you. Good for me.
To each his own.
Thats not the point i was making.
I've never said don't worry.
I said any project that has humongous expections is bound to disappoint, mostly those who have already a preconceived image of what the movie should be in their mind.
This is not your movie, whatever you want it to be, it's scott's you have to accept it as it is for now.
Then when you see it you can say "I" don"t like it and give your reasons.
Its what i call the KUBRICK effect, everybody expected his movies like they were the answer to life or the movies to end all movies. Then you see it and you're like "huh ok it's just a movie" then you start seeing it as it is and you like it or not.
It's great to see the official shots at last, in the first place!
I totally second those, who expressed the idea, that to gauge all the film by the random photos, torn out of context, wouldn't lead you anywhere - they are still separate pics of some scenes or rather the promotional shots. Moreover, the fact that Prometheus is set 30 years back before Alien in the Alien Universe doesn't indicate the fact that the Nostromo would be built after the scientific spaceship... Nostromo was a battered, often partly on the fritz industrial space tug, still good for its functioning...
However to tell the truth, giant head in that chamber looks less Giger-esque to me, than I was expecting it to look like... Its current design kind of hints the transitional stage between SJ's and human's aesthetic.
Btw, what is the structure in the right bottom corner of the shot? Looks like a CJ's chair or some elements of it, to me :-\
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I'm intrigued at the second chick with the Amelie/Irina Spalko hair.
Quote from: aliennaire on Nov 23, 2011, 11:21:35 AM
Btw, what is the structure in the right bottom corner of the shot? Looks like a CJ's chair or some elements of it, to me :-\
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The base of one the rooms pillar.
Or part of room entrance we've seen in previous pics.
Or maybe the chair, but i doubt it, as it has to be in the center of some room.
Quote from: Salt The Fries on Nov 23, 2011, 09:21:20 AM
Noomi Rapace look 1000x cooler and attractive than Charlize Theron in a futuristic outfit. Maybe they wanted to uglify Charlize on purpose... ???
Been there, done that. Theron's hair is all held up and it's not a good shot of her anyways... but I don't see then touching her face Monster style for any reason...
Quote from: Engineer1 on Nov 23, 2011, 11:28:01 AM
The base of one the rooms pillar.
Or part of room entrance we've seen in previous pics.
Or maybe the chair, but i doubt it, as it has to be in the center of some room.
Oh! Thanks, I see it now: there is another symmetrical one to the left of the screen. It's rather an architectural element of the chamber.
BTW, I'm thinking about some transformation from human to space jockey, but that'd be far less cool :(
Looks very crap.. guess theres no aliens in it then, well that was a waste. Lost the little interest i had in it now. No aliens. No point it even being on this site really but oh well.
Quote from: Engineer1 on Nov 23, 2011, 11:14:07 AM
Probably because you were expecting a gritty hard R ALIENS redux
I wanted a sci-fi movie that didn't look like every sci-fi I'd seen in the last twenty years and that I couldn't predict the end of before I'd even sat down.
QuoteThis is not your movie, whatever you want it to be, it's scott's you have to accept it as it is for now.
I do.
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The giant head reminds me too much of Dark City
Sil i don't think i've seen AVATAR's production design before in any scifi movie.
Everybody tried to copy his realistic military futuristic but no one achieved what he has.
That's why the designs in his movies pass the test of time.
But hey i get it not yur cup of tea.
Looks like it's Scott's tho.
Lets continue this somewhere else its not the subject of this thread thanks.
If PROMETHEUS with its humanoid Engineers, its clean production design an no aliens is doomed for you.
Leave the forums guys while there's still time before becoming a hater ;)
Just a precision, i'm not loving everything i've seen or read about the movie so far but i will definitly wait to see it before passing judgement.
BTW did you see that the movie is now an action epic.
They are trying so hard to make people understand that it's not an ALIEN movie that i feel sorry for them when read some comments.
ALIEN formula for most of the audience is the xeno hunting down humans in a closed dark environnement.
I think this is what they are trying to explain since Prometheus is gonna features new creatures, wide landscapes and whole new concepts.
They still don't know how to market it, look at the test trailer description with the shot of ripley and the xeno...
My god people ar so dumb that they might harm the movie.
Fox and company could be scared of the feedback and ask Scott to either make more obvious that its an ALIEN movie or the contrary and avoid any references (safe from easter eggs that fans will definitly get like logos and company names...).
What kind of mindf*ck is that?
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Looks like the same (+/- a few seconds) shot, one photo from the front/side and one from the back...i'm missing a wall with a smaller door.
And this "egg" they are examining...looks like a helmet with some good old slime in it.
Quote from: Never say no to Panda! on Nov 23, 2011, 12:50:11 PM
What kind of mindf*ck is that?
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-vPDtmQk4Dfk/TjfjquGNarI/AAAAAAAABN8/3ZhOtNH3F08/s1600/prometheus-comic-con-8.jpg
http://www.dreadcentral.com/img/news/nov11/prom2s.jpg
small "door", huge door :D
It's called perspective ;)
But nice one.
I find weird that only David is the only one staring at the Head...
Maybe he's the fisrt one noticing it amids the fog and darkness.
A hint to his relation with the Engineer's that was in PARADISE...
From the light coming from what they are checking on the ground i doubt it's something from Engineers's ship.
Maybe some sort of gear. The Bag that David has in the promo shot.
http://insidemovies.ew.com/2011/11/23/prometheus-ridley-scott-first-look/ (http://insidemovies.ew.com/2011/11/23/prometheus-ridley-scott-first-look/)
Official image from EW
Baaaad PS...
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Removed helmets :D
Love the gigolo joe feel David has.
I really don't feel any Photoshop manipulation.
I think the makeup and the overlit set is the thing going on.
But i could be wrong.
Quote from: Engineer1 on Nov 23, 2011, 01:11:58 PM
I really don't feel any Photoshop manipulation.
I think the makeup and the overlit set is the thing going on.
But i could be wrong.
There are lights around their spacesuit necks, which can add this unrealistic effect, as though faces are put here from different shots with another lighting.
Uhm...but look at the small old image i just posted, you see that he wears a helmet (round reflection on the upper side).
On the new photo you just see "blue light", formed like a helmet. Same with the ladies, same picture, no helmets but yellow light formed like an orb...nearly invisible ;D
But but but...on the small image he wears a helmet, but those ladies not. Argh...
Haha, nah...that's just light.
Damn, i should stop staring on those photos ;D
Well first of all, we all knew Avatar had something wrong with it the moment we saw the Pocahontas aliens.
Second, I think I'm going to have to quote this post again:
Quote from: JaaayDee on Nov 23, 2011, 03:25:28 AM
QuoteI've always heard you want as much light as possible.
Scott: That's the downside.
But isn't Alien almost the antithesis of that because the movies have always been about shadow and darkness and hiding things.
Scott: That's what Jim said. The problem is you'll have to grade it later. You'll have to grit your teeth and light it not the way you'd like it. And then later, you're gonna have to regrade it. Repaint it. In fact, Avatar, when you think about it, is almost a completely animated movie.
http://collider.com/ridley-scott-confirms-alien-prequel-will-be-shot-in-3d/22944/ (http://collider.com/ridley-scott-confirms-alien-prequel-will-be-shot-in-3d/22944/)
Here are the stills with color grading:
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And even there those faces look strange :laugh:
Too bright (not your fault of course, it's the original)
Not sure what to make of the pictures. I mean they are mega shiny production/promo stills and for reason that I can't exactly judge the look and atmosphere of the picture until I see the proper trailer. And yes...those faces are clearly shopped to bits. They look like they were transplanted onto those space suits.
The head.....I guess like everybody else I was hoping it would look less earthly. It has eyes, ears and a nose. If the story is what they are saying then it makes sense I suppose. Reminds me a lot of the early promo shot of The Dark Knight's Joker where it was just a close up of his face. Mixed with pin head from Hellraiser. And Dark City of course.
P.S.
Anybody else think the head looks like a modified version of Guy Pearce's face?
With the shots being 'over coloured', I would point out how much colour on the original Alien was counteracted by set lighting and cinematogrophy. The pastel space suits spring to mind - I never even realised they were different colours until years of HD upscaling later! The bridge looks like a Cobb design to me, and I'm not going to lose sleep over how a production photographer has lit it!
EDIT: I was half expecting everything to look slightly forties/fifties , from haircuts on down, as a sly '30 years prior to Alien' nod! Not sure if I'm glad or not that that isn't the case! I would have at least liked to see someone rocking a classic Skerritt cut - nothing says 'golden age sci-fi' more than flowing locks and a beard!
I thought it was Fassbender's forehead and eyebrows in the black and white face shot.
I suppose we ought to be glad about the fact that they didn't stick such a head in the derelict in the original film otherwise it would have seemed rather idiotic
This lokks like they found a facehugger in there or something similar. It looks like a central body with tentacles/fingers on both sides and some kind of tail at the bottom
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Hope not...
Quote from: zuzuki on Nov 23, 2011, 01:53:24 PM
This lokks like they found a facehugger in there or something similar. It looks like a central body with tentacles/fingers on both sides and some kind of tail at the bottom
http://img854.imageshack.us/img854/2405/231447361vqalcv9.jpg
I don't think it is. The picture quality is poor so we are not seeing what it actually is. And from my experience it is never what it originally looks to be. I think your mind is filling in the blanks and automatically assuming it's the face hugger or something similar due to a familiar shape. But that shape could just be the ridges/ bumps of another completed unrelated object.
the room look very similar to the derelict, just look out those walls. well i'm looking forward to this film.
Spoiler
From what I understand, there will be no familiarity in the "aliens" as we know them. The facehugger does not exist yet. Those capsules in the "ampule chamber" (with the large head) contains a virus, of sorts, that mutates the host. This is what I have come to understand that the movie is about.
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Ok...the Prometheus ship´s interior design is not so far from Ron Cobb´s ideas for the original film.I think the reason for the Nostromo´s bulky appearance was the lack of time and resources to do everything from the scratch as today.They just took pieces from aircrafts,old TVs,pipes,glued everything and voilá...The Nostromo.
I really liked the spacesuits.Those wings in the chest and the colorfull details give them a old sci-fi vibe.They are not original as the Alien suits but i see this film as a separate thing...not a sequel or prequel.Exactly as Ridley said.
My concern is that head.We can see clearly that it don´t had that "Giger-esque" feel.I believe the alien world is a mixture of Giger and other designers work.The same goes for the creatures.
I have the feeling that the "Space Jockeys" had Human appearance and the "Aliens" in this movie are humans transformed by the "vírus thing" inside the urns.
I personally wished the giant head looked more "Giger-ish", kinda like:
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Link here to the full article
http://i42.tinypic.com/11u80hi.jpg (http://i42.tinypic.com/11u80hi.jpg)
Interesting quote from Fassbender:
"There's creatures in it that you'll recognize, but that's only one tiny facet of what's going on".
I wonder what that means. Will the Jockey's, Facehuggers, Xeno's be there but insignificant?
Quote from: tmjhur on Nov 23, 2011, 02:36:22 PM
Link here to the full article
http://i42.tinypic.com/11u80hi.jpg (http://i42.tinypic.com/11u80hi.jpg)
Interesting quote from Fassbender:
"There's creatures in it that you'll recognize, but that's only one tiny facet of what's going on".
I wonder what that means. Will the Jockey's, Facehuggers, Xeno's be there but insignificant?
I think he is talking the actual xenos.
The Jockeys/Engineers will play a more dominant role, is what I believe. Also, Ridley did mention that the Jockeys/Engineers as we know them look different in Prometheus since the thing in the chair in Alien still had its suit on.. inside the suit, they look more human.
Quote from: Biomechanoid20 on Nov 23, 2011, 02:30:59 PM
I personally wished the giant head looked more "Giger-ish", kinda like:
http://i1103.photobucket.com/albums/g471/muromachi/gigerfaceampules.jpg
Needs more Giger-cat.
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well f*** me sideways. these pics are awesome!
Haha, is that Jonesy? Anyways, this is my last one for now, I swear! ;)
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These definitely can't be an indication of the final look. Check out the door in the background, here:
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See at the bottom, what looks like half of another door, printed on shiny paper and hanging loosely onto the floor? That's the kind of stuff we're not supposed to see. My guess is they rushed the EW photographer in there right when half the crew was headed to lunch. ;)
It's a reflection on some sort of holo table.
Quote from: zuzuki on Nov 23, 2011, 01:53:24 PM
This lokks like they found a facehugger in there or something similar. It looks like a central body with tentacles/fingers on both sides and some kind of tail at the bottom
http://img854.imageshack.us/img854/2405/231447361vqalcv9.jpg
All that from a blurry picture.Are you kidding me?
Quote from: JaaayDee on Nov 23, 2011, 03:14:25 PM
It's a reflection on some sort of holo table.
I'm with JaaayDee on this.. you can clearly see it is a table.
Well, I suppose the interest in the mysteries of the old Alien movie look as if they're getting more and more lost to me. Even looking at the old Sunday newspaper magazine articles showing big shots of the pilot chamber without a pilot were way more inspiiring than this "biomechanic" environment.
I'll always have a fondness for the old space jockey whatever they've turned his species into in this movie
Whats is Ridley Scott talking about ???.
Something must be secret he is not telling us about.
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What could it be?.
Quote from: Eldritch on Nov 23, 2011, 03:24:38 PM
Quote from: JaaayDee on Nov 23, 2011, 03:14:25 PM
It's a reflection on some sort of holo table.
I'm with JaaayDee on this.. you can clearly see it is a table.
A-ha... the photo I linked was cropped, so I couldn't see the table's edge and interpreted it wrongly. Mastermoon's full photo above has shown me my error. Carry on! ;D
Quote from: mastermoon on Nov 23, 2011, 03:51:36 PM
Whats is Ridley Scott talking about ???.
Something must be secret he is not telling us about.
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What could it be?.
I'm guessing it's as simple as a big suit attached to a telescope. Or the canisters will have turned to eggs.
Quote from: mastermoon on Nov 23, 2011, 03:51:36 PM
Whats is Ridley Scott talking about ???.
Something must be secret he is not telling us about.
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What could it be?.
hoping for lots of untold secrets... I don't wanna go see this knowing everything.
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defiantly looks like an egg to me ?:)
I have a feeling fox will take these pictures down >:(.
What Bullshit.
And what is the problem? Once online, never gone.
Quote from: mastermoon on Nov 23, 2011, 03:51:36 PM
Whats is Ridley Scott talking about ???.
Something must be secret he is not telling us about.
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What could it be?.
Ain't that a bit of the Jockey Telescope thing on the bottom right corner of the 2 page image?
The only thing I'm not much convinced of is the giant head. I agree that it could've looked more Giger-ish.
But the rest... oh my.
The suits look a bit to much scifi for my taste but to be completely honest i do love the stills. And i'm even more convinced it is an alien prequel of some sorts.
I hope those Urns are incubators for actual eggs,no Queen here,move along!
Quote from: Snowdog on Nov 23, 2011, 07:01:53 PM
The suits look a bit to much scifi for my taste but to be completely honest i do love the stills. And i'm even more convinced it is an alien prequel of some sorts.
Tbh i think it is a prequel because of this reason...
So Ridley Scott says this is not a prequel to Alien? well I am confused because in the article over at "Alienprequelnews" Scott says that in the last 8 minutes of Prometheus it will tie in with Alien...
well if a film is supposed to be set before another doesn't that mean its a prequel??
http://www.alienprequelnews.com/2011/11/ridley-scott-last-8-minutes-of.html (http://www.alienprequelnews.com/2011/11/ridley-scott-last-8-minutes-of.html)
... Awesome. I have a lot of faith in Ridley Scott, so I'm holding most of my opinions until we get some trailers and more screens.
Lot of comments about the look and the universe in here, which I can understand. The points already made, though, should be considered. Most advanced science vessel ever built vs. run-down commercial freighter, I mean, with such a distinction it seems like they could frankly make it look however they want.
Another thing, one of you fellow geeks know when, time-wise, Prometheus is supposed to take place? I'm assuming it's closer to a near-future type of deal, not the 200+ years into the future that Alien began from.
To me, that makes it a lot easier to just enjoy whats to come. Anything made about the Alien, in any way, that isn't total steaming crapola, will have me trembling with frenetic, juvenile anticipation.
I'd watch the whole movie to see a proper xeno for 30 bloody seconds.
2085.
Hey guys from the new pics which got put up on the net today, well i managed to do a bit of spying on some of the pictures and this is one picture i came across...
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It sure looks like two of the "Prometheus crew" are looking at a object which well may look like an Xeno egg?
what do you guys think this is ?
>>--Space Jockey King-->
Oh come on, keep it in the thread...
you could make thousands of threads for each pixel then.
Could be pretty much everything. Egg, container, helmet and so on ;)
IMDB board is the place to open millions of threads ;D
Quote from: Biomechanoid20 on Nov 23, 2011, 02:30:59 PM
I personally wished the giant head looked more "Giger-ish", kinda like:
http://i1103.photobucket.com/albums/g471/muromachi/gigerfaceampules.jpg
That was my wish.
And as already said, the head is Guy Pearce. Especially his nose.
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I dunno about that but here's something else worth considering. Remember those leaked images several weeks ago from Comic Con, if you still have those have a look through them again. You can clearly see in some (not all) there were 4 crew members who go into the ampule room, yet the new pictures only show 3. It is difficult to tell and I could be totally wrong, but I believe this is that 4th member who's already been infected, still with their helmet on (hence where the light comes from) being tended to while lying on the ground.
Nice avatar. And no, I think it's just a rock or some debris on which they find something. There's another 'rock' like that one in the same shot.
http://i42.tinypic.com/11u80hi.jpg (http://i42.tinypic.com/11u80hi.jpg)
Quote from: RoaryUK on Nov 23, 2011, 08:00:58 PM
I dunno about that but here's something else worth considering. Remember those leaked images several weeks ago from Comic Con, if you still have those have a look through them again. You can clearly see in some (not all) there were 4 crew members who go into the ampule room, yet the new pictures only show 3. It is difficult to tell and I could be totally wrong, but I believe this is that 4th member who's already been infected, still with their helmet on (hence where the light comes from) being tended to while lying on the ground.
There are 4 people in the new pictures. Rapace, Fassbender, Logan and Kate.
Quote from: Eldritch on Nov 23, 2011, 02:41:17 PM
Quote from: tmjhur on Nov 23, 2011, 02:36:22 PM
Link here to the full article
http://i42.tinypic.com/11u80hi.jpg (http://i42.tinypic.com/11u80hi.jpg)
Interesting quote from Fassbender:
"There's creatures in it that you'll recognize, but that's only one tiny facet of what's going on".
I wonder what that means. Will the Jockey's, Facehuggers, Xeno's be there but insignificant?
I think he is talking the actual xenos.
The Jockeys/Engineers will play a more dominant role, is what I believe. Also, Ridley did mention that the Jockeys/Engineers as we know them look different in Prometheus since the thing in the chair in Alien still had its suit on.. inside the suit, they look more human.
Nevertheless, I still hope Fassbender was talking about Space Jockey. Xenos, Huggers, Eggs ... have been overtly shown before, what I'd like to view here is those undeterminate, extraterrestrial creatures.
BTW, was it already mentioned by now, that the crew in the chamber does not wear helmets? So there is oxygen???
I mean, in the leaked Comic con pix they wear helmets and are they now on a SJ ship or that cave on earth or some whatever planet???
Quote from: locusta on Nov 23, 2011, 08:23:03 PM
BTW, was it already mentioned by now, that the crew in the chamber does not wear helmets? So there is oxygen???
I mean, in the leaked Comic con pix they wear helmets and are they now on a SJ ship or that cave on earth or some whatever planet???
Yeah but if you think about it
in the first Alien when kane gets facehugged the helmet is of no use anymore. The hugger burnt through. So the suit won't have pressure anymore. It could be possible lV426 had oxygen already. But that the levels weren't high enough for populations or something like that.
As said before, this seems to be the same shot from a different POV...tell me, is that a helmet or not?
Damn quality, you see some kind of reflection above his head. Pretty sure this is not from the background.
Or they posed a 2nd time, exactly the same position but without helmets just for the photo shooting.
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Quote from: mastermoon on Nov 23, 2011, 05:58:41 PM
I have a feeling fox will take these pictures down >:(.
What Bullshit.
They're not leaked, they are from a magazine, officially released press photos.
Quote from: ikarop on Nov 23, 2011, 08:18:46 PM
Nice avatar. And no, I think it's just a rock or some debris on which they find something. There's another 'rock' like that one in the same shot.
http://i42.tinypic.com/11u80hi.jpg (http://i42.tinypic.com/11u80hi.jpg)
Quote from: RoaryUK on Nov 23, 2011, 08:00:58 PM
I dunno about that but here's something else worth considering. Remember those leaked images several weeks ago from Comic Con, if you still have those have a look through them again. You can clearly see in some (not all) there were 4 crew members who go into the ampule room, yet the new pictures only show 3. It is difficult to tell and I could be totally wrong, but I believe this is that 4th member who's already been infected, still with their helmet on (hence where the light comes from) being tended to while lying on the ground.
There are 4 people in the new pictures. Rapace, Fassbender, Logan and Kate.
I know there are four people in the scene, but you show me where the fourth one in the new pics is, coz I dont see them other than in the one possibilty I indicated?
Quote from: locusta on Nov 23, 2011, 07:58:51 PM
Quote from: Biomechanoid20 on Nov 23, 2011, 02:30:59 PM
I personally wished the giant head looked more "Giger-ish", kinda like:
http://i1103.photobucket.com/albums/g471/muromachi/gigerfaceampules.jpg
That was my wish.
And as already said, the head is Guy Pearce. Especially his nose.
http://www.celebirony.com/foto/attori/Guy_Pearce/guy_pearce_grande3.jpg
However handsome Guy Pearce is, I also expected earlier mentioned in the leaked synopsis head to be more Giger-surrealistic.. Alas, as I said before, it looks to me like something average from mixture of human's and SJ's artwork...
And yes, crew don't wear the helmets, however we dont actually know where this chamber is placed in, whether it's on Earth or in the cavern of distant planet. In any case, they're scientists (could take air probes, and so on), so they should know where is it proper to walk whithout the helmets...
Maybe he moved out of the room during the take, maybe he is lying somewhere in a corner or maybe they just posed for the photo shooting.
Quote from: Never say no to Panda! on Nov 23, 2011, 08:37:13 PM
Maybe he moved out of the room during the take, maybe he is lying somewhere in a corner or maybe they just posed for the photo shooting.
You could be right...I just wondered why someone is missing and if 'maybe' thats him lying on the floor in the second Dread Central picture. No one really knows, though I'm willing to bet it's not an egg, we're probably not going to see anything like that in this film.
Well i think it's a helmet with the goo monster in it, i guess we have to wait for more material to find the answer.
Btw, damn i would love some kind of chestburster...that comes through the head, let's call it headburster :o
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Quote from: Never say no to Panda! on Nov 23, 2011, 08:50:32 PM
Well i think it's a helmet with the goo monster in it, i guess we have to wait for more material to find the answer.
Btw, damn i would love some kind of chestburster...that comes through the head, let's call it headburster :o
So you agree with me then...or you think its just a helmet?
Quote from: RoaryUK on Nov 23, 2011, 08:33:14 PM
Quote from: ikarop on Nov 23, 2011, 08:18:46 PM
Nice avatar. And no, I think it's just a rock or some debris on which they find something. There's another 'rock' like that one in the same shot.
http://i42.tinypic.com/11u80hi.jpg (http://i42.tinypic.com/11u80hi.jpg)
Quote from: RoaryUK on Nov 23, 2011, 08:00:58 PM
I dunno about that but here's something else worth considering. Remember those leaked images several weeks ago from Comic Con, if you still have those have a look through them again. You can clearly see in some (not all) there were 4 crew members who go into the ampule room, yet the new pictures only show 3. It is difficult to tell and I could be totally wrong, but I believe this is that 4th member who's already been infected, still with their helmet on (hence where the light comes from) being tended to while lying on the ground.
There are 4 people in the new pictures. Rapace, Fassbender, Logan and Kate.
I know there are four people in the scene, but you show me where the fourth one in the new pics is, coz I dont see them other than in the one possibilty I indicated?
Well yes, but they seem to be peacefully exploring the room rather than panicking because one of their members just got infected. Based on the Comic-con trailer:
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(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/gallery/albums/movies/prometheus/trailers/comicon12.jpg)
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(She's stilll looking at the rock/egg thing probably)
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/gallery/albums/movies/prometheus/trailers/comicon14.jpg)
(Same shot as before yet from another higher angle)
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(That's when shit goes wrong)
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I believe the images were leaked in chronological order.
Pics look awesome. :)
I could imagine (!) that it is the "missing guy", in his suit. Maybe a few minutes after the attack so the panic is over, maybe they are caged in this room. The first thing that came in my mind was some kind of an egg...not the same thing like in Alien but something similar, maybe a container or whatever. The 2nd thing was a helmet, the color reminded me on Kanes Helmet
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But as i said: It's a matter of imagination. I never took the time to combine all leaked images, the trailer footage and the official photos...i could imagine it is something else as well, there are many possible variations atm.
Maybe i could come up with something better if i could concentrate but i really should stop staring at those images, im switching between Youtube tutorials and board/images now for hours. That drives me crazy ;D
hmmm so in the past this crew has much more modern and comfortable spacesuit?...well actually the nostromo was not made for expeditions, maybe that crew uses cheap suit :P
The stuff on the ground looks like a helmet with a broken frontal glass plate on it. Would be the only reason to take helmets off on the alien planet, if someone could have intentionally or accidentally discovered, that the air is breathable here...
Jeah, that's what i mean...who knows ???
Like the scene in Red Planet or was it Mission to Mars...where they crash on the planet, running low on air and one guy panics, takes off his helmet and realizes that there is oxygen.
Yeah, and the missing on the shots guy is the one, who's taking all these snaps on cam, lol ;D
But you're right about to quit starring at this pics, need to give it a break myself :)
PS. Red Planet, I guess, with Wal Kilmer being that brave guy... :-)
Actually if you look closely,the Nostromo spacesuits had a more complex design.They seem to be more sophisticated,with more machinery and details.
$100 million? That's pretty cheap.
I agree that it could be a helmet. The size seems right.
Quote from: Zenzucht on Nov 23, 2011, 09:24:36 PM
$100 million? That's pretty cheap.
QuoteWhat's important is the atmosphere and the obvious high-budget design that's going on -- some reports have said the cost of the movie is upwards from $200 million --
http://www.empireonline.com/news/story.asp?NID=32546 (http://www.empireonline.com/news/story.asp?NID=32546)
We should gather our troops and focus on the final showdown: Helmet vs Egg , it could involve a third or fourth party as well so we should be prepared to eliminate any doubts ;D
Quote from: szkoki on Nov 23, 2011, 09:14:38 PM
hmmm so in the past this crew has much more modern and comfortable spacesuit?...well actually the nostromo was not made for expeditions, maybe that crew uses cheap suit :P
This is exactly what I'm thinking.
Quote from: Zenzucht on Nov 23, 2011, 09:24:36 PM
$100 million? That's pretty cheap.
Well the movie "Rise of the Planet of the Apes" had the budget of $93 million and it was an impressive movie.
I think it might be a skull and there might be a ribcage of a biomechanoid above the right of the lower photograph
Tbh it could be anything as you can see the two people are shining a torch on to it so its something obviously valuable or important. they may even use the light from the torches to see what detail is on the object ?
:)
Really liking what I'm seeing. The space suits look a bit too Star Trek, but I can deal with it. The giant head, the pods, and the ship interior look awesome.
I like the wings on the spacesuits looks like they cold be part of the Weyland or weyland/Yutani corporation ?
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This is what I'm seeing at present whether it's really there or not. Quite honestly I don't know what they're shining the torch on
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-jP6XLcqhFiY/Ts1wjTFwcVI/AAAAAAAAA1E/d21-pMS4lag/s1024/corpse.jpg)
I'm really enjoying the parallels between the original Alien poster and this 'might-be' poster for Prometheus...
Quote from: Snowdog on Nov 23, 2011, 08:28:54 PM
Quote from: locusta on Nov 23, 2011, 08:23:03 PM
BTW, was it already mentioned by now, that the crew in the chamber does not wear helmets? So there is oxygen???
I mean, in the leaked Comic con pix they wear helmets and are they now on a SJ ship or that cave on earth or some whatever planet???
Yeah but if you think about it
in the first Alien when kane gets facehugged the helmet is of no use anymore. The hugger burnt through. So the suit won't have pressure anymore. It could be possible lV426 had oxygen already. But that the levels weren't high enough for populations or something like that.
The facehugger was feeding Kane Oxygen,its explained when Ash does the scan of him in the medical room,Ash also says when he's testing the Atmosphere of Lv426 that the Planet is Primordial.
Whats with this Giant head,does anyone find it odd that it look's ''human''God created man in his own image and all that shizaz.
Stolen from ikarop...unless it has already been posted.
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I can't say how much this reporting knows, but they basically just confirmed the company must be Weyland and/or Yutani.
Jeah, i thought that as well since the color is different from the architecture...another possibility.
Time to collect them: helmet, egg, container, alien, "facehugger",dinner, Charlie Sheen...
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Nov 23, 2011, 10:05:17 PM
Really liking what I'm seeing. The space suits look a bit too Star Trek, but I can deal with it. The giant head, the pods, and the ship interior look awesome.
This.
I've been lurking on this site since the first avp computer game and I can't do it any longer. I don't think what the op is referring to is positively an egg (it might be) but in the bottom right corner thats the top of an egg!
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Notice the slit from where it opens in the top and makes that round shape.
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now compare the egg to the thing thats cut of by Charlize Theron
Quote from: wmmvrrvrrmm on Nov 23, 2011, 10:17:57 PM
This is what I'm seeing at present whether it's really there or not. Quite honestly I don't know what they're shining the torch on
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-jP6XLcqhFiY/Ts1wjTFwcVI/AAAAAAAAA1E/d21-pMS4lag/s1024/corpse.jpg
What ever that is what is layed there (if it is a being which it looks like it could be) it has got one long neck lol
that giant head looks totally out of place IMO. i'm curious about what's the deal with it.
and i'm still not liking the idea that the engineers look like humans.... "invented" humans... started life on earth or whatever
- but i'm still quite sure this movie will blow my mind ;)
Well might be this thing on the floor next to the guy in the suit...after fight/infection whatever.
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First Pic...guy on the right side, something with a strange shaped head like pic 2 on the left side, time for a kiss, looks like a big body, shiny parts may be the ribcage...or...something...else haha :laugh:
Reminds me a bit on this one:
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Haha, it's Pilot from Farscape:
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Really loving the Giger Head. Very impressed with it.
Should have some HQ images on Monday.
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Ridley's donning his classic hair and goatee from '79. You know he must have been back in the zone when he was filming this movie.
Its not an egg,its clearly a helmet from the suit.
Love the big Giger head and the feeling from these early stills. However that PS of the cast is horrendous.
Quote from: Never say no to Panda! on Nov 23, 2011, 11:22:10 PM
Well might be this thing on the floor next to the guy in the suit...after fight/infection whatever.
http://666kb.com/i/byxcy2dsksgsjmoq8.png
First Pic...guy on the right side, something with a strange shaped head like pic 2 on the left side, time for a kiss, looks like a big body, shiny parts may be the ribcage...or...something...else haha :laugh:
Reminds me a bit on this one:
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Haha, it's Pilot from Farscape:
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Dude, that pilot guy looks really cool haha which episode is he from ? (ino this is off topic but uno lol)
Farscape, he is named "Pilot" and pilots the ship...afaik in most episodes.
Maybe it's really him, he is bond with the biomechanical spacecraft like ... like ... omg, he is a Space Jockey! :o
The Entertainment Weekly photographer clearly didn't have a clue...the two posed photos look like shit.
Quote from: Space Jockey King on Nov 23, 2011, 07:25:00 PM
Hey guys from the new pics which got put up on the net today, well i managed to do a bit of spying on some of the pictures and this is one picture i came across...
http://s3-ak.bebo.com/image/8386610908a12953071913l.jpg
It sure looks like two of the "Prometheus crew" are looking at a object which well may look like an Xeno egg?
what do you guys think this is ?
>>--Space Jockey King-->
Topics merged. If there's a relevant thread already available ... don't make a new one. Keep the board tidy; with new information coming out, topics will spring everywhere, so let's keep it neat 8)
strange there wasn't any heads up about this EW first look. There usually always is.
Just wondering, anyone ever thought whatever it is inside the white line. could it actually be something man made...such as landing gear or part of some vehicle??
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi16.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fb13%2FAndyUK_1962%2Fpromo2.jpg&hash=ea9a9bdfe18d54663845c391523e992862f7abb1)
Not sure where this is, but it would be hard getting something so large and bulky into a cave without crushing possible specimens or finds. As someone said, its probably the base of one of the huge pillars you see in the back.
Its a long shot I agree, but I don't think it's the base of a pillar, you can see from recent pics they're a different shape. It just looks too man-made to me. The Ampule Room is massive there's no doubt about that, and it's always been assumed it was under ground, but could Prometheus have crashed into it and this is part of the wreckage we've seen already?
I have a feeling people will be surprised when they find out there are more creatures than just humans, SJ and Alien(xeno). I have a feeling there is going to be a LOT MORE biodiversity than that.
Really digging Ridley's puffy jacket...
Disappointed that the suits aren't more NASA-like and bulky, but would rather they make the computer displays more retro-tastic if there's time in post-production. It's going to look really weird when you see them in chronological order.
Quote from: Xenomorphine on Nov 24, 2011, 06:43:02 AM
Really digging Ridley's puffy jacket...
Disappointed that the suits aren't more NASA-like and bulky, but would rather they make the computer displays more retro-tastic if there's time in post-production. It's going to look really weird when you see them in chronological order.
Star Wars prequels
Quote from: Darkoo on Nov 23, 2011, 09:31:27 PM
Quote from: Zenzucht on Nov 23, 2011, 09:24:36 PM
$100 million? That's pretty cheap.
QuoteWhat's important is the atmosphere and the obvious high-budget design that's going on -- some reports have said the cost of the movie is upwards from $200 million --
http://www.empireonline.com/news/story.asp?NID=32546 (http://www.empireonline.com/news/story.asp?NID=32546)
I hope they keep it at 100 million. You can make some great CG now these days with low amount of money. I think 200 million is too much for a possible R rated film and I don't want this to flop like Green Lantern did.
Quote from: RoaryUK on Nov 24, 2011, 01:39:11 AM
Just wondering, anyone ever thought whatever it is inside the white line. could it actually be something man made...such as landing gear or part of some vehicle??
Looks like the base of the thing the Jockey sits with in
Alien.
Quote from: SiL on Nov 24, 2011, 08:50:16 AM
Quote from: RoaryUK on Nov 24, 2011, 01:39:11 AM
Just wondering, anyone ever thought whatever it is inside the white line. could it actually be something man made...such as landing gear or part of some vehicle??
Looks like the base of the thing the Jockey sits with in Alien.
Yes it may well be the chair which the Jockey sits in, but if you look by its side there is something layed be side of it, it could be the Space Jockey or any other type of being?.. maybe the Prometheus crew or something else managed to kill it and it fell of its chair lol who knows?? :)
Quote from: SiL on Nov 24, 2011, 08:50:16 AM
Looks like the base of the thing the Jockey sits with in Alien.
There was certainly the
floor base upon which it sits, shown in the leaked footage... Perhaps both are related.
I know we've all seen the scans, but has this official one from EW been posted?
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Quote from: wmmvrrvrrmm on Nov 23, 2011, 10:17:57 PM
This is what I'm seeing at present whether it's really there or not. Quite honestly I don't know what they're shining the torch on
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-jP6XLcqhFiY/Ts1wjTFwcVI/AAAAAAAAA1E/d21-pMS4lag/s1024/corpse.jpg
It is the same as the face on one of the leaked set pics that adorn the top of the entrance. The sculpture itself must be be one of the "new" creatures. Doubt it if posting set pics is allowed here but it's the pic where all of the urns are stacked in a circle.
Quote from: SiL on Nov 24, 2011, 08:50:16 AM
Quote from: RoaryUK on Nov 24, 2011, 01:39:11 AM
Just wondering, anyone ever thought whatever it is inside the white line. could it actually be something man made...such as landing gear or part of some vehicle??
Looks like the base of the thing the Jockey sits with in Alien.
In the leaked image from SDCC there is the reverse shot of this exact image.
The Engineer's seat is not there, it's the entrance of the temple/ship.
It's either the base of the huge door or another pillar.
Quote from: whiterabbit on Nov 24, 2011, 11:36:01 AM
Quote from: wmmvrrvrrmm on Nov 23, 2011, 10:17:57 PM
This is what I'm seeing at present whether it's really there or not. Quite honestly I don't know what they're shining the torch on
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-jP6XLcqhFiY/Ts1wjTFwcVI/AAAAAAAAA1E/d21-pMS4lag/s1024/corpse.jpg
It is the same as the face on one of the leaked set pics that adorn the top of the entrance. The sculpture itself must be be one of the "new" creatures. Doubt it if posting set pics is allowed here but it's the pic where all of the urns are stacked in a circle.
Which image is that? The small set photo here at AvPGalaxy that shows a domed entryway? Above it, it does look like a head of some sorts, though I think it is more like a lamp.
About the Spacesuits...
More modern,more Bulky.
Detail...both suits below were designed for EVA activity as the Nostromo and Prometheus suits.
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg16.imageshack.us%2Fimg16%2F9118%2F250pxgeminisuit.jpg&hash=1123da5254b20137c0b94249c92dfa28f9506908) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/16/250pxgeminisuit.jpg/)
Quote from: Ivymike on Nov 24, 2011, 01:42:13 PM
About the Spacesuits...
More modern,more Bulky.
Detail...both suits below were designed for EVA activity as the Nostromo and Prometheus suits.
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There are many types of space suits. Obviously different based on a number of different factors. Shuttle suits are bulky because they have to protect the wearing from space radiation. If its on a planet with no then it can be thinner and more like the one in the film. plus the films set in the future not the present. and there prob wearing high tech military gear rather than bog standadr cheaper space suits
Quote from: aliennaire on Nov 23, 2011, 09:18:01 PM
The stuff on the ground looks like a helmet with a broken frontal glass plate on it. Would be the only reason to take helmets off on the alien planet, if someone could have intentionally or accidentally discovered, that the air is breathable here...
yeah but it doesn't explain why they are studying their own helmets with flashlights.
as for the suits i think they needed some redesign.think about it if they spend a lot of time on that alien planet or cave thing they need to be mobile.run,jump like we saw in the bootleg leaked.you can't do that in a big bulky space suit.you need something streamlined
Quote from: nendo on Nov 24, 2011, 01:58:50 PM
Quote from: Ivymike on Nov 24, 2011, 01:42:13 PM
About the Spacesuits...
More modern,more Bulky.
Detail...both suits below were designed for EVA activity as the Nostromo and Prometheus suits.
There are many types of space suits. Obviously different based on a number of different factors. Shuttle suits are bulky because they have to protect the wearing from space radiation. If its on a planet with no then it can be thinner and more like the one in the film. plus the films set in the future not the present. and there prob wearing high tech military gear rather than bog standadr cheaper space suits
The films set in the future,not in the present but the marjority of the designs were based in reality,even the Star Wars films had designs based in our reality.You said,"Shuttle suits are bulky because they have to protect the wearing from space radiation" but the very light Gemini performed exactly the same function...read more my friend.What I tried to show was the fact that as spacesuits have evolved over the years, they became more and more complex,more heavy and more bulky.However,i agree with you in one point...maybe the Prometheus clotches are actually somekind of "biological quarantine suit",not a true spacesuit.
In my mind these are not spacesuit per se.
I see them more as light spelunking suits.
With all the action going on in this movie outside the ships they needed to make more praticable suits.
Nonetheless i would have prefered that instead of the FF blue tight suit there was a regular jumper, military looking suit bit like the gemini one but tighter.
The only thing i find weird that they dont even evoke the nostromo spacesuits just a bit.
Quote from: Ivymike on Nov 24, 2011, 01:42:13 PM
About the Spacesuits...
More modern,more Bulky.
Detail...both suits below were designed for EVA activity as the Nostromo and Prometheus suits.
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg16.imageshack.us%2Fimg16%2F9118%2F250pxgeminisuit.jpg&hash=1123da5254b20137c0b94249c92dfa28f9506908) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/16/250pxgeminisuit.jpg/)
So by the year 2060 we will have a spacesuit the size of a dalek,great.
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Dudes! What is that that is taking up the entire bottom right hand corner of the main pic?
Look almost like part of the telescope/gun/inseminator.
Dude why dont you check the previous pages?
;)
Quote from: Engineer1 on Nov 24, 2011, 03:56:27 PM
Dude why dont you check the previous pages?
;)
Dude! I'm not talking about this
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I'm talking about the thing above it that's leaning into the right corner, with the tubes coming out of it.
Its quite clearly just another one of the rib/pillars that are part of the 'Ampule Room' (glad that place has a name now!)
Whats that big man face? I dont like it.
Quote from: tmjhur on Nov 24, 2011, 04:01:32 PM
Quote from: Engineer1 on Nov 24, 2011, 03:56:27 PM
Dude why dont you check the previous pages?
;)
Dude! I'm not talking about this
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-jP6XLcqhFiY/Ts1wjTFwcVI/AAAAAAAAA1E/d21-pMS4lag/s1024/corpse.jpg
I'm talking about the thing above it that's leaning into the right corner, with the tubes coming out of it.
Dude i know whatcha talkin' nabout.
Theres a reverse shot of that shot in the leaked SDCC images.
It's either another pillar with a different design or the huge Entrance of the temple/ship.
Not the Engineer's chair.
Quote from: wmmvrrvrrmm on Nov 23, 2011, 10:17:57 PM
This is what I'm seeing at present whether it's really there or not. Quite honestly I don't know what they're shining the torch on
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-jP6XLcqhFiY/Ts1wjTFwcVI/AAAAAAAAA1E/d21-pMS4lag/s1024/corpse.jpg
Quote from: RoaryUK on Nov 24, 2011, 01:39:11 AM
Just wondering, anyone ever thought whatever it is inside the white line. could it actually be something man made...such as landing gear or part of some vehicle??
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Quote from: tmjhur on Nov 24, 2011, 04:01:32 PM
Quote from: Engineer1 on Nov 24, 2011, 03:56:27 PM
Dude why dont you check the previous pages?
;)
Dude! I'm not talking about this
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-jP6XLcqhFiY/Ts1wjTFwcVI/AAAAAAAAA1E/d21-pMS4lag/s1024/corpse.jpg
I'm talking about the thing above it that's leaning into the right corner, with the tubes coming out of it.
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Catwoman!
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If I was to make a photoshop I'd shop on Charlize Theron's face from Monster and say look, The New Monster. Or Monster. Or something like that. Hint Hint Hint! Somebody do it.
Quote from: Laufey on Nov 24, 2011, 10:33:11 AM
I know we've all seen the scans, but has this official one from EW been posted?
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Dat Fass! I love how "artificial" he looks. ;D
I think the thing in the bottom right is clearly some sort of biomechanical creature, hopefully something jockey or jockey-related. You can just tell the engineers are going to look incredible, probably something like this:
Spoiler
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Spoiler
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I wonder if ol Fassbender will be eyeing up Noomi during the film like he is in that wretched photoshop job.
After looking at the new images I am wondering if Ridley Scott is a secret Ultraman fan. Seriously, the main uniforms look like the EYES uniform from Ultraman Cosmos with football shoulder pads painted black.
Don't you think the suites should have been less modern since this is taking place before Alien?
Kind of, but as was said earlier; horses for courses.
The Prometheus is a research ship. Nostromo was essentially a tug. You don't get given Navy Seal gear to go tourist diving in the Red Sea with mate ;)
Quote from: The Collector on Nov 24, 2011, 06:55:01 PM
Don't you think the suites should have been less modern since this is taking place before Alien?
Yes. Yes I do.
It has grown on me slightly. All I would like it to be is more beaten up and rusty, but then again, how many times would scientists use these EVA suits anyway? Not to mention, the ship is brand new, I would expect the equipment inside to be new as well.
Quote from: St_Eddie on Nov 24, 2011, 07:06:37 PM
Quote from: The Collector on Nov 24, 2011, 06:55:01 PM
Don't you think the suites should have been less modern since this is taking place before Alien?
Yes. Yes I do.
Don't forget this is the year 2011 and by the time Prometheus hits it will be 2012, its not the year 1979.
Scott has all the latest tech and things to use for this film he can make it look as cool as he wants. and its much easier to make the suits than what he did in 79.
Quote from: MrSpaceJockey on Nov 24, 2011, 07:08:39 PM
It has grown on me slightly. All I would like it to be is more beaten up and rusty, but then again, how many times would scientists use these EVA suits anyway? Not to mention, the ship is brand new, I would expect the equipment inside to be new as well.
It could all be new.
If its got something to do with Weyland (which i think it does personally), then this film could show us the very first crew and spaceship for Weyland so everything could be brand new,
Well, Star Wars was '77,'80 and '83 and had muuuuch more futuristic stuff in it.
Of course, it was much more fantasy as well, Alien went down the more realistic route BUT the tech was there to create a much more futuristic look. Thank god he didn't do that ;D
Quote from: Laufey on Nov 24, 2011, 10:33:11 AM
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I may be wrong, but I don't think that is a helmet nor an egg that they are looking in, but instead the bag the guy is holding in the far right of this picture.
Quote from: Space Jockey King on Nov 25, 2011, 12:19:08 AM
Quote from: St_Eddie on Nov 24, 2011, 07:06:37 PM
Quote from: The Collector on Nov 24, 2011, 06:55:01 PM
Don't you think the suites should have been less modern since this is taking place before Alien?
Yes. Yes I do.
Don't forget this is the year 2011 and by the time Prometheus hits it will be 2012, its not the year 1979.
Scott has all the latest tech and things to use for this film he can make it look as cool as he wants. and its much easier to make the suits than what he did in 79.
I'm aware of the year in which we live and the technology that's available. However, I simply don't like the chosen aesthetic. Regardless of the white/blue collar argument; I personally don't admire the direction they've take with the costume design. It's entirely subjective and my individual opinion.
There is so much comparison to A L I E N here it's pretty disappointing. Obviously we love ALIEN and we love Ridley Scott, but this film won't succeed if we don't let it. Letting it means letting the space suits look different, having each character be their own instead on insufferable comparisons to the characters from ALIEN. Letting Prometheus succeed means judging the film on the film itself and not quick shots or promotional photos.
Quote from: ThisBethesdaSea on Nov 25, 2011, 01:04:50 AM
There is so much comparison to A L I E N here it's pretty disappointing. Obviously we love ALIEN and we love Ridley Scott, but this film won't succeed if we don't let it. Letting it means letting the space suits look different, having each character be their own instead on insufferable comparisons to the characters from ALIEN. Letting Prometheus succeeds means judging the film on the film itself and not quick shots or promotional photos.
I'll second that...
Quote from: zuzuki on Nov 24, 2011, 02:06:42 PM
as for the suits i think they needed some redesign.think about it if they spend a lot of time on that alien planet or cave thing they need to be mobile.run,jump like we saw in the bootleg leaked.you can't do that in a big bulky space suit.you need something streamlined
You change that sort of stuff in the script, not adapt the costumes around it. Not in something which is
meant to be perceived in the light of consistent technological progression.
Quote from: Vulhala on Nov 24, 2011, 07:06:05 PM
Kind of, but as was said earlier; horses for courses.
The Prometheus is a research ship. Nostromo was essentially a tug. You don't get given Navy Seal gear to go tourist diving in the Red Sea with mate ;)
They're both Weyland-Yutani ships (and going by the inquest during '
Aliens', still regarded as a high-value investment, decades later).
The only way I can think this is reconciled, is that the Nostromo's might have been designed with multi-purpose EVA in mind, while these might have been packed for mere planetary environmental protection.
Otherwise, it's going to seem more like it's set during the time of '
Alien Resurrection' than '
Alien'.
Quote from: ThisBethesdaSea on Nov 25, 2011, 01:04:50 AM
There is so much comparison to A L I E N here it's pretty disappointing.
You didn't expect comparisons when it's meant to have a direct link to a well-known cinematic masterpiece? :)
It's not like we're getting torn up about minute details (if you want that, look back at the hilarious outrage by Predator fan boys at Anderson for daring to give them a couple of extra upper teeth)... Things like the computer displays and spacesuit aesthetics were shown
extensively in the original. If these don't at least look a bit similar, it's going to break your willing suspension of disbelief when you watch them in chronological order.
It's not like it would've taken masses of effort to get some bulky suits. Stuff like '
Event Horizon' did it and I'm betting even low budget TV shows can make some up if they want to. They could probably even get some off-the-shelf Hollywood stuff if they wanted, all things considered.
Think of it this way: If really obvious details like these are suffering from glaring discontinuity, does that bode well for how things like the Space Jockey are going to be portrayed? That's why people perceive things like these as potential red flags.
Nobody's saying it's going to be a failure. Just that they're interesting things to note.
Especially when there really isn't anything else to discuss. :)
And remember, a good part of what made the original so atmospheric and immersive was how industrial it all looked. That was a key part of why it was successful. It conveyed the realism of space travel in a way which perfectly matched the 'every man' nature of the 1970s cast, themselves. 'Prettying up' everything gives an unfortunate impression of this coming across as more superficial.
Let's hope the finished production proves fears wrong.
I would say basing ones opinion about the continuity or not of Prometheus, without having seen the film, on redesigned space suits is getting tied up in tedium and minutiae. Prometheus is NOT Alien. At this moment we don't know what it is. Let it breathe a bit before you come down with such judgement on space suits that really don't do anything to take away from A FILM WE HAVEN'T SEEN YET. As it stands, to me, I'm even more excited about what Prometheus has in store. I don't want to see Alien again, nor do I want the aesthetic from ALIEN replicated just to make me feel better. Prometheus needs to take risks on all levels. I bet it's gonna do that and more.
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Because this image really inspired so much promise and hope. I think we'll be okay.
Here's my thoughts on my these EVA suits are more form-fitting than Alien's.
In Prometheus, they were custom made for each crewmember. In Alien, they were more one-size-fits-all.
I would say that the tights that they are wearing underneath are the form fitting ones. The main piece seems to be identically sized for Rapace and Fassbender - David being taller, has more space between the chest and waist piece, and Noomi. less.
Interestingly, when I looked at it closer, it seems that Green has a different chestpiece. The others have these segments that line up in a parallel formation. His, on the other hand, seems to be layered, with each subsequent layer wider than the others.
My excuse for the suits in general - EVA suit for an environment that is generally stable, maybe not for use in space. The Nostromo suits are much more armored and rough, and seem to be built for withstanding space debris and trekking around Thedus.
Simplest explanation is they're SCUBA suits for alien atmospheres (so technically SCABA or just SCBA suits).
By the way,the first official image from Prometheus featured an as yet to be named member of the cast in what appears to be a rather bulky space suit....so,there's obviously a piece we're missing here. Relax people. ;) :)
Quote from: SpaceMarines on Nov 25, 2011, 04:09:51 AM
Here's my thoughts on my these EVA suits are more form-fitting than Alien's.
In Prometheus, they were custom made for each crewmember. In Alien, they were more one-size-fits-all.
I agree. This ship will more than likely be more advanced than the one in Alien. The ones in alien was a towing ship so they would probably be paying minimium for a space suit. This looks to be more advanced and could well have military gear. which will feature the latest tech and better material
Quote from: SiL on Nov 25, 2011, 05:43:40 AM
Simplest explanation is they're SCUBA suits for alien atmospheres (so technically SCABA or just SCBA suits).
Exactly this (i said spelunking in a previous post).
These are NOT SPACE suit!
This the storywise explanation.
And from a shooting pov.
Since they need to perform a lot of action in the movie in those suits, they have to be thinner
Quote from: ThisBethesdaSea on Nov 25, 2011, 05:54:32 AM
By the way,the first official image from Prometheus featured an as yet to be named member of the cast in what appears to be a rather bulky space suit....so,there's obviously a piece we're missing here. Relax people. ;) :)
Exactly what I was about to say - the 'bouncing with a briefcase' shot feature a suit which, in silhouette at least, is far more in line with the Alien EVA suits. We don't really know
what we're looking at at this stage - these could be what they're wearing UNDER bulkier suits that they've shed for ease of movement. It's all good conversation fodder, if nothing else!
Just thought I might chime in on the issue regarding the "ergonomic" Prometheus spacesuits. In fact, this isn't Science Fiction, it is Science Fact, and it is here now. Courtesy of M.I.T., it is in protoype and proof of concept testing phase. It is a skin-suit that is revolutionary. Instead of traditional space-suits that are pressurized (think Michelin tire man), which results in an unwieldy, bulky suit which makes movement difficult and fatiguing...the EVA / Bio-Suit under development uses mechanical counter-pressure to protect the astronaut.
Here is a link to the MIT page that details the prototype suit:
http://mvl.mit.edu/EVA/biosuit/index.html (http://mvl.mit.edu/EVA/biosuit/index.html)
Awesome!
Thanks for the link.
Quote from: SiL on Nov 25, 2011, 05:43:40 AM
Simplest explanation is they're SCUBA suits for alien atmospheres (so technically SCABA or just SCBA suits).
Yeah, actually, that's the best explanation.
Quote from: deuterium on Nov 25, 2011, 11:08:36 AM
Just thought I might chime in on the issue regarding the "ergonomic" Prometheus spacesuits. In fact, this isn't Science Fiction, it is Science Fact, and it is here now. Courtesy of M.I.T., it is in protoype and proof of concept testing phase. It is a skin-suit that is revolutionary. Instead of traditional space-suits that are pressurized (think Michelin tire man), which results in an unwieldy, bulky suit which makes movement difficult and fatiguing...the EVA / Bio-Suit under development uses mechanical counter-pressure to protect the astronaut.
Here is a link to the MIT page that details the prototype suit:
http://mvl.mit.edu/EVA/biosuit/index.html (http://mvl.mit.edu/EVA/biosuit/index.html)
Problem with those is they have to be
perfectly form fitting. Otherwise the skin will literally expand to fill in the empty spaces, which is quite problematic when you think about armpits or breasts.
Although, they are finding ways to solve that problem.
There´s no doubt that Prometheus is connected with A L I E N,but i´ll watch this film with an open mind.
The future will tell us if Ridley was wrong or not. :)
Quote from: ThisBethesdaSea on Nov 25, 2011, 01:04:50 AM
There is so much comparison to A L I E N here it's pretty disappointing. Obviously we love ALIEN and we love Ridley Scott, but this film won't succeed if we don't let it. Letting it means letting the space suits look different, having each character be their own instead on insufferable comparisons to the characters from ALIEN. Letting Prometheus succeed means judging the film on the film itself and not quick shots or promotional photos.
Right on the money.
Quote from: ThisBethesdaSea on Nov 25, 2011, 05:54:32 AM
By the way,the first official image from Prometheus featured an as yet to be named member of the cast in what appears to be a rather bulky space suit....so,there's obviously a piece we're missing here. Relax people. ;) :)
Um, nope. Take another look at that picture. It's the same outfit, the light on the upper chest plate (near the neck) is even in the same place.
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It's mainly the legs that look bulkier here, and so far we haven't gotten a good shot of those.
Fair enough...I still contend that getting worried about Prometheus as a whole based on different looking space suits is pedestrian. :) :) lol
Quote from: SpaceMarines on Nov 25, 2011, 02:53:35 PM
Problem with those is they have to be perfectly form fitting. Otherwise the skin will literally expand to fill in the empty spaces, which is quite problematic when you think about armpits or breasts.
Although, they are finding ways to solve that problem.
Not sure if you are aware...but NASA's current EVA suit (Extravehicular Mobility Unit -- EMU) is pretty much tailor made for each individual astronaut. The hardshell chest (HUT -- Hard Upper Torso) is prefabricated to various standard sizes, and is in a sense "modular", as well as the helmets...but almost everything else is literally custom fit to the intended wearer / Astronaut, including the sleeves, Lower torso, boots, and most importantly the gloves. And that doesn't even include the LCG (Liquid Cooling and Ventilation UnderGarment), which is form fit to each Astronaut.
However, I certainly agree with you that the ultimate goal is to develop a suit that is, to a high degree "scalable" and modular, so that there isn't so much intense and unique customization required to any given suit / astronaut pairing.
Quote from: MrSpaceJockey on Nov 25, 2011, 06:45:15 PM
It's mainly the legs that look bulkier here, and so far we haven't gotten a good shot of those.
Because it's the shot of a woman, worn in that skinny-padded suit, propotrions between shoulders (remember, there are pads over them here), torso and hips say so.
:)
Quote from: aliennaire on Nov 25, 2011, 09:54:49 PM
Quote from: MrSpaceJockey on Nov 25, 2011, 06:45:15 PM
It's mainly the legs that look bulkier here, and so far we haven't gotten a good shot of those.
Because it's the shot of a woman, worn in that skinny-padded suit, propotrions between shoulders (remember, there are pads over them here), torso and hips say so.
:)
I actually think it's Fassbender...
Quote from: SiL on Nov 25, 2011, 05:43:40 AM
Simplest explanation is they're SCUBA suits for alien atmospheres (so technically SCABA or just SCBA suits).
They do look a lot like futuristic wetsuits! I hope you're right.
Quote from: Glaive on Nov 25, 2011, 10:52:31 PM
I actually think it's Fassbender...
Might be him, if you consider the perspective, where the legs are closer to cam and the head is farther from it. The film will answer :)
That could be it, I guess, if you take in what we've already seen in the leaked footage and Comic Con people's accounts, where the figure is kinda falling away from the camera.
Quote from: MrSpaceJockey on Nov 25, 2011, 04:35:31 AM
My excuse for the suits in general - EVA suit for an environment that is generally stable, maybe not for use in space. The Nostromo suits are much more armored and rough, and seem to be built for withstanding space debris and trekking around Thedus.
Yeah, that's what I put in my earlier reply: Nostromo had protective suits for EVA in all manner of dangerous vacuum environments (I could see them having to maybe do repairs to the outer hull if getting hit by something in an astroid field it was picking up ore from, for example), whereas these ones might purely be environmental suits. Not designed for space-walking, but just trundling around on/in a planet/ship with different atmospheric content.
If they present them as they
only suits they have, then, as I say, it's going to be problematic when you view the films on order.
Only needs seeing a bulkier one somewhere in storage, like how you saw guns on the Nostromo in storage, just not being used.
I might have subconciously stole your comment. ;) But yeah, for sure.
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These guys are still a tiny bit bulky, but relatively slim compared to what the crew used on LV-426. This would be the reverse of what you have in mind about larger suits in storage, I suppose.
Quote from: Ivymike on Nov 25, 2011, 02:54:32 PM
There´s no doubt that Prometheus is connected with A L I E N,but i´ll watch this film with an open mind.
The future will tell us if Ridley was wrong or not. :)
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ripley's a ride or die bitch wrong or right
Quote from: PREDDY VEDDER on Nov 26, 2011, 03:22:49 AM
Quote from: Ivymike on Nov 25, 2011, 02:54:32 PM
There´s no doubt that Prometheus is connected with A L I E N,but i´ll watch this film with an open mind.
The future will tell us if Ridley was wrong or not. :)
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ripley's a ride or die bitch wrong or right
Could you elaborate on what you mean?
Quote from: MrSpaceJockey on Nov 26, 2011, 03:25:36 AM
Quote from: PREDDY VEDDER on Nov 26, 2011, 03:22:49 AM
Quote from: Ivymike on Nov 25, 2011, 02:54:32 PM
There´s no doubt that Prometheus is connected with A L I E N,but i´ll watch this film with an open mind.
The future will tell us if Ridley was wrong or not. :)
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ripley's a ride or die bitch wrong or right
Could you elaborate on what you mean?
ould we please stop speaking inside quotes?
Yeah, please do guys. Let's keep it visually pretty and not confusing for people. Thanks.
Sorry, I fixed it.
Spoiler
Though I know this isn't the right place to mention, but saying how visually confusing things are when you guys share the similiar avatars is a bit ironic.
Haha, jeah...get an urn! ;D
Quote from: Never say no to Panda! on Nov 26, 2011, 07:00:06 PM
Haha, jeah...get an urn! ;D
Haha. Yeah, I noticed your new avatar in another topic. It made me chuckle ;D
"Prometheus... In your local garden centre, the flowers can't hear you scream!"
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Stunning set. Just amazing
Is that the Weyland-Yutani logo on Idris's shirt?
It's the logo we saw on several set photos...take the 3 triangle dots from the original Weyland-Yutani logo, add wings and done. May be Weyland only, maybe Weyland-Yutani or just Yutani...i guess it's version 1.
http://www.prometheus-movie.com/uploads/prometheus_set_weyland.png (http://www.prometheus-movie.com/uploads/prometheus_set_weyland.png)
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Well in some old interviews before it became Prometheus and was just an Alien Prequel, Ridley said: "They go and see Weyland, Yutani isn't in the picture yet".
But yeah, what's the difference between Prometheus and an Alien Prequel now then? It'll be interesting to find out what changes Lindelof made after we all the movie.
Anyway we shall how much of those old interviews hold true.
1 question: which ship (and the entire equipment) is older? the nostromo or the prometheus?
i mean: which were build first.
No one knows. If you are curious why the ship and equipement in the "prequel" looks much more futuritic than in the original movie...it may be that the Nostromo is older or just not as good equipped since it has got a different purpose, no need of shiny stuff. Fly to this planet, mine that sh*t, come back. Only get out of the ship, if you need to repair stuff and so on.
The ship in Prometheus may be an up to date science vessel that needs high tech stuff for deep space exploration.
They would need slim suits as well and as you see they've got several versions of vehicles to explore the surface.
We already had that discussion a thousand times...in fact you can explain it this way. Someone compared it with up to date science to regular mine workers - in our time. The real reason is that they want to attract audience...you've got to satisfy the mainstream viewer,that wants fancy stuff, as well. Imagine you would use older equip than in Alien. See Star Wars Episode 1-3...better visual effects, better technology (or at least it looks better).
And there may be time travel... :laugh:
greetings
Panda
Quote from: Kol on Nov 29, 2011, 03:19:56 PM
1 question: which ship (and the entire equipment) is older? the nostromo or the prometheus?
i mean: which were build first.
The same reason on any road trip you will see semi trucks that are brand new and shiny and then you will se older beat up semi's... if the Nostromo's only job was to haul mined ore from a planet to another planet they would probably use it till the thrusters fell off. Prometheus and any other "exploration" ship may be much nicer. Imagine if the Nostromo was a 40 year old ship, and Prometheus takes place 30 years before Alien than technically the Prometheus could be 10 model years newer than the Nostromo...
Quote from: ryanjayhawk on Nov 29, 2011, 05:03:48 PM
Quote from: Kol on Nov 29, 2011, 03:19:56 PM
1 question: which ship (and the entire equipment) is older? the nostromo or the prometheus?
i mean: which were build first.
The same reason on any road trip you will see semi trucks that are brand new and shiny and then you will se older beat up semi's... if the Nostromo's only job was to haul mined ore from a planet to another planet they would probably use it till the thrusters fell off. Prometheus and any other "exploration" ship may be much nicer. Imagine if the Nostromo was a 40 year old ship, and Prometheus takes place 30 years before Alien than technically the Prometheus could be 10 model years newer than the Nostromo...
Exactly! 8)
Well then....if that's how he'll appear in the movie...
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Quote from: Kol on Nov 29, 2011, 03:19:56 PM
1 question: which ship (and the entire equipment) is older? the nostromo or the prometheus?
i mean: which were build first.
I estimate the Nostromo was bult about 20 years prior to Alien. But that's apropos of nothing.
Even given that I'd still say the Nostromo is a younger ship.
What white guy doesn't look like the head in the Ampule room? Jesus...next..lol :)
Quote from: ThisBethesdaSea on Nov 30, 2011, 04:12:59 AM
What white guy doesn't look like the head in the Ampule room? Jesus...next..lol :)
No not him. No beard.
Also not
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Quote from: ThisBethesdaSea on Nov 30, 2011, 04:12:59 AM
What white guy doesn't look like the head in the Ampule room? Jesus...next..lol :)
Hey... wait a minute... it IS Jesus!!!! HALELUJA!
???
Quote from: MrSpaceJockey on Nov 23, 2011, 12:23:55 AM
f**k yeah!
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Looking a little plasticy, but they do look like mostly stills for the public, not for the movie.
EDIT:
Quick analysis:
The ship is called the Prometheus. There is an ampule room, so we now got a name on that - ampules are used to collect samples of liquids, including DNA, which probably serves its importance in the film. Idris Elba be rocking a company shirt, and there's an interesting eagle and sun logo painted onto the suits and on the metal pin that make me think of the Weylan-Yutani logo from ALIEN.
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Suits are looking a little flashy, but the movie is looking good.
this is actually looking to me like the official promo poster ......
Hi res pics. One has what looks like the remains of a Space Jockey or similiar creature. :o
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The pics are from here:
http://www.upcominghorrormovies.com/tags/image-galleries/prometheus (http://www.upcominghorrormovies.com/tags/image-galleries/prometheus)
http://i.imgur.com/y9tZk.jpg (http://i.imgur.com/y9tZk.jpg)
to the bottom right there appears to be what looks like a body, also, the thing that shaw and dickie's character are exploring looks to me like the head/skull of the body to the right.
anyone has seen this photo ? http://i.imgur.com/y9tZk.jpg (http://i.imgur.com/y9tZk.jpg) right down corner speaks for itself i guess....
yep i found that photo on imdb too. looks like body , i dont know about the head, looks like an egg or somethin, considering perspective its to big for a head, unless you expecting a classic bighead thinbody alien from roswell :)
That's an odd picture...it almost seems digitally enhanced. And they're either looking at a skull or an egg. Looks like a dead jockey on the ground there. It sure if all of the elements of that pic is legit...some one with mad photoshopping skills could've had a go at that.
Hmmmm
The structures on the body itself match what we've seen in ALIEN.
Topics merged. Interesting find.
The guys at prometheusnews.net have posted a high def set photo.
http://www.prometheusnews.net/movie/more-images-from-ew/ (http://www.prometheusnews.net/movie/more-images-from-ew/)
Quote from: Valaquen on Dec 01, 2011, 12:55:41 AM
Topics merged. Interesting find.
Ah there we go. Thanks. I keep forgetting about the 'approval' thingy.
Okay, merged "Space Jockey" thread into larger overall official picture thread. Keep 'em flowing in here, guys.
The head definitely doesn't look like a jockey's. the body KINDA does tho - but there's no doubting how very similar they look.
I can quite clearly see two legs, crotch and torso. Looks humanoid in shape but with biomechanoid design.
Quote from: BonesawT101 on Dec 01, 2011, 01:02:49 AM
The head definitely doesn't look like a jockey's. the body KINDA does tho - but there's no doubting how very similar they look.
I can't see any head at all, though the ribcage almost looks spot on. Comparison pictures, anyone?
to me it looks like the head is what rapace and dickie are shining their torches on. there seems to be two large eye cavities on the 'head'
Why would it just be lying there? The light makes the head look transparent, its strange.
Body itself looks quite small, more like the adult actors to the prop in ALIEN rather than the large shot with the kid actors. And are we meant to take this as a the jockey itself, or is this another "suit"?
Too human for my taste, not that interesting.
Well compare the SJ from Alien with this body...looks veeeery similar, except the size of course.
Maybe we will see different sized ones...pilot, warrior...or the missing link :laugh:
I without a doubt see a corpse. Of what I don't know. Looks kind of like a bigger version of the Alien suit from the first movie. The Xenomorph suit I mean.
I wonder do they walk into a pile of bodies and a major what the f**k moment?
I don't know what they are shining their torches on. Doesn't really seem like to be a head.
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I just thought about this based on the ALIEN Space jockey.....there's not really enough room in that canon cockpit for Jockey legs. So he either doesn't have any or the Jockey and the canon are the definition of biomechanical????
Looks to me like that could be a dead Alien, and the 'head' they're looking at looks like an egg.
I think the giant head looks better in this new image.
I'm also wondering whether those eye sockets are going to light up.
I hope the eyes don't light up....that would be a bit cliched.....
I think the Jockey on the ground is lying next to a similar chair/canon as seen in A L I EN??
Whatever it is, there is two of them.
no its not a chair, its been discussed before, its the bottom of one of the arches, it can be seen in another pic facing the other way, and has an exact opposite on the other side of the room.
i would say that its defo the space jockey though, rib cage looks the same as the one in alien.
thanks
rich
Graded according to the footage in Comic Con:
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About the complaints on the new spacesuit in the movie. Apparently it might not be so "unrealistic" after all, the American Musem of Natural History has a new exhibition called Beyond Planet Earth. There they're showing of the "next generation" space suit, and it actually isn't so far from what we're seeing in Promethus.
Some more info and a video showing it off here: http://io9.com/5860453/these-are-the-real-mcfly-shoes-of-the-future++and-their-matching-spacesuit?tag=space&autoplay (http://io9.com/5860453/these-are-the-real-mcfly-shoes-of-the-future++and-their-matching-spacesuit?tag=space&autoplay)
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http://collider.com/prometheus-movie-images-2/129626/ (http://collider.com/prometheus-movie-images-2/129626/)
pictures in HD quality
That head looks pretty Giger if I know Giger.
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JOCKEY SPOTTED
I see it! It dead... or hung over.
If it's a Jockey it has to be a baby (previously described in one of the rumors). The Jockey in Alien is four times larger than that.
Quote from: JaaayDee on Dec 01, 2011, 06:32:21 AM
If it's a Jockey it has to be a baby (previously described in one of the rumors). The Jockey in Alien is four times larger than that.
I agree. The proportion is all off. But the chest (or what we can see of it) is defiantly Jockian in nature. Though it would be in proportion if the creature inside the bio-suit were human sized.
Quote from: JaaayDee on Dec 01, 2011, 06:32:21 AM
If it's a Jockey it has to be a baby (previously described in one of the rumors). The Jockey in Alien is four times larger than that.
I think if it stood up it would be well over 16 feet.... so just how big is an adult jockey?
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JOCKEY SPOTTED
After having a good look at that photo, i have to say that yes it does look like it could be something dead, but at the same time it could be nothing more then strange wall structure of organic matter that is twisting itself around corners, and maybe its nothing.
I cant wait to see the HD trailer so i can stay away from this part of the forum because it is driving me mad waiting to see this film.
Just noting some stuff I noticed in the images:
Pic with Sir Ridley and Noomi:
- Note her suit: Circular logo is definately an eagle on a blue background with a sphere above the eagle (sun?).
- Shoulder mounted camera.
- Smaller red logo on abdomen: Looks like the "company" logo we have seen before, but "wings" upside down.
- Barcode or small note on -her- left hand side lower chest.
Pic with the three actors with torches looking at us:
- Logan-Marshll-Green's armour has a sticker/print on -his- right hand side that has a helmet and a "name" + "Mark II" noted... mark 2 whatever name space suit. Name of suit looks to have a k and s in it, and start with a p.
- Same eagle like logo visible.
- Same "upside down wing" red logo.
- Very bottom of the image, right hand side: Notice what almost looks like the "lips" opening of an alien egg (no I'm not saying HEY FACEHUGGER EGG ZOMG) just kind of looks similar to me?
Prometheus bridge shot:
- Note Idris' shirt. Has the triangle logo we've speculated on/seen. Can't confirm if the "wings" are right way up though per notes above...?
- Alos the bird logo on his outer shirt
- Shiny shiny table in bridge... very Battlestar Galactica...
- "Control panel" on it looks similar to the one we've seen from leaked SDCC footage that shows "abdominal" something something with person shown on screen. Probably not the same one, but similar look..
Supposed jockey shot:
- Where are his frackin' arms?
- As stated previously by others: Looks almost like eye sockets on the thing they're looking at... yet looks transparent/translucent. Either that or like it's made of resin.
- What is that object left of the "jockey" under her bum?
- Can't help but notice how strange that "jockey" looks... looks photoshopped, or terrible CGI.... looks weird.....
Very exciting to see the SJ or it´s suit remains there.
One thing btw and me not sure if it was already mentioned. Fassbender plays a robot (synthetic whatever) right? So why the hack does he wear the same spacesuit as the humans???
Hey all, been lurking around for a while (thanks for all the awesome updates!) and thought I'd chime in on the supposed Jockey pic. That is not a Jockey, it's a Xenomorph - the anatomy is identical to the lower body of a Xeno, I've even got a Xeno model I compared the pic to and it's identical, legs, ribcage, groin everything. It's a big one - HOWEVER I'd hazard to guess that it's actually a statue of one of the creatures that has fallen over rather than the real deal. Whatever it is would have to be dead an awfullly long time if they just found it in that cave which I'm guessing is ancient. This would mean that it would look a little more decayed or fossilised if it were a dead creature. Just my thoughts :)
I think that is a SJ. A small one indeed.
The whole picture looks more like a painting than a pic, specially the SJ (or not SJ)
Quote from: Tough little S.O.B. on Dec 01, 2011, 09:13:01 AM
I think that is a SJ. A small one indeed.
The whole picture looks more like a painting than a pic, specially the SJ (or not SJ)
Yup. I think so too. It looks odd....
That thing does have the legs and crotch of a xenomorph. :P
Meh I really don't see the same chest as a space jockey. ???
Could the space jockey be the xenomorph? Like it mated with itself or something retarded like that. :)
It is pretty damn similar to the cruth/hips/etc. of the alien. :-\
Now I'm confused.
Also... forgive me if it has been proven with 100% evidence... but are we sure of the source for these?
Sites are noting that Fox distributed them.... but for high res promo pictures, they're awfully grainey...
Just seems odd that official pics are that grainy, yet that image size (as in px x px)...
ALSO:
NOTICE:
All the pictures have the copyright info for Fox (duh), and also have Photo: Kerry Brown.
The one with the "creature" body... has "Courtesy Twentieth Century Fox"...
The picture with the people walking towards the head (shopped promo poster like one)... has a photo courtesy yet has had post work done (it's shopped for promotional material).
Does not add up.
You guys think this is an orchestrated campaign? Leak trailer + pictures.
Or u think its an answer to the (non fox orchestrated) leaked trailer?
Or do u think is all a Judeo-Masonich-Comunist-International conspiracy?
By the way, if we consider this pics or all the information on them true, it says, "on a planet, on a distant planet"
So all this will be hapening on the "other planet", not on earth. Right?
here's a comparison - note the legs in particular. The ribcage is a bit high up in the shot of the model but appears to have the same lumps and bumps. Prepare to get worryingly familiar with xeno groin. ;)
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Now my brother has a friend who worked on this movie and confirms that the xenos are and aren't in it (if that makes sense) and the ones that are in the movie are massive, as has been reported elsewhere. Probably because they've been born from the Jockey species. Maybe it's a Jockey Xeno - albeit in statue form (convinced this is a statue).
Quote from: Tough little S.O.B. on Dec 01, 2011, 09:24:32 AM
You guys think this is an orchestrated campaign? Leak trailer + pictures.
Or u think its an answer to the (non fox orchestrated) leaked trailer?
Or do u think is all a Judeo-Masonich-Comunist-International conspiracy?
By the way, if we consider this pics or all the information on them true, it says, "on a planet, on a distant planet"
So all this will be hapening on the "other planet", not on earth. Right?
I'm sceptical to be honest. (See post above you)
You're all wrong... It's a Collector from 'Mass Effect'.
And everyone knows William Shatner is the Big Giant Head... Now we'll finally get that 'Star Trek'/'Alien'/computer game cross-over, featuring John Lithgow as a Space Jockey, we've been waiting for.
But in all seriousness, that 'part of the telescope-cannon' theory which has been doing the rounds now seems to be disproven. Not only is the 'scope' of it not mounted on the top, but you can see an identical-looking structure on the other side of the room.
Quote from: josh_axey on Dec 01, 2011, 09:28:21 AM
Quote from: Tough little S.O.B. on Dec 01, 2011, 09:24:32 AM
You guys think this is an orchestrated campaign? Leak trailer + pictures.
Or u think its an answer to the (non fox orchestrated) leaked trailer?
Or do u think is all a Judeo-Masonich-Comunist-International conspiracy?
By the way, if we consider this pics or all the information on them true, it says, "on a planet, on a distant planet"
So all this will be hapening on the "other planet", not on earth. Right?
I'm sceptical to be honest. (See post above you)
Yep, all looks weird...
Maybe some funny guy painted a SJ there? Maybe now Fox says its all fake, but its been them all the time...
I don´t know if its a perfect orchestrated viral campaing or we the Alien fans are so hungry for this movie that we are all becoming paranoid and victims of ourselves...
Quote from: Tough little S.O.B. on Dec 01, 2011, 09:35:12 AM
fans are so hungry for this movie that we are all becoming paranoid and victims of ourselves...
:'(
...maybe?
The pics are for real otherwise they would have been ripped down by now. Relax.
The leaked trailer doesn't do any harm to Fox at all, although I don't think it's viral anything from working on plenty of these types of things in the past... ;) if it IS part of an orchestrated campaign to raise awareness, well done Fox! It's given them a platform to make everyone aware that the trailer will be in 3D this December so go and see a 3D Fox movie around that time!
Strange that prometheusmovie.com doesn't have a front page yet though, thought a logo would be the least they could throw up there. Also strange that prometheusmovie.com doesn't redirect to the Fox website, whereas prometheusmovie.co.uk does.
Anyway OT - let's discuss Xeno/Jockey groin.
I definitely thought the 'body' was either a statue of something, or a fossilized Alien, it's body looks more like the Alien's body (to me at least) than it does the Jockey.
The most obvious answer is usually the correct one.
If it's not as big as a SJ, but bigger than an Alien, and it shares similar features to both creatures........
It can only be whatever creature bursts from the Jockey.
Either that or it's something completely different. It's clearly not a SJ or Alien.
The official EW images already had this 'thing' in it.
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Whatever that is, it is undeniably related to Giger's alien. Heck, it even could be Giger's alien, just dead (or not?). Also, I don't think it is as big as it looks in the shot, it's just in the foreground?
Bring on this movie!
-Chris
OMG! Run for your lives, it's the HAND BAG!
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I actually can not believe no one has not noticed an Xeno Egg on the image *__* !
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Quote from: Space Jockey King on Dec 01, 2011, 10:54:42 AM
I actually can not believe no one has not noticed an Xeno Egg on the image *__* !
I don't see it...? ???
There isn't one.
Looks too big, flat and hard. More like a rock.
I`d be superhappy if it was Jockeyalien. Been waiting for one my whole life.
hahaaha yeah its the same bag that David has on the other picture.
Another thing I noticed is the image in the monitor on the right at the picture of the prometheus ship. whats that?
Quote from: Tough little S.O.B. on Dec 01, 2011, 10:59:20 AM
hahaaha yeah its the same bag that David has on the other picture.
Another thing I noticed is the image in the monitor on the right at the picture of the prometheus ship. whats that?
That's what I was wondering..
Quote from: Space Jockey King on Dec 01, 2011, 10:54:42 AM
I actually can not believe no one has not noticed an Xeno Egg on the image *__* !
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I don't care about the egg thingy or whatever. I care about the alien body on the bottom right of the picture
EDIT: bugger i missed page 23 of this thread
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Dead Engineer.
Quote from: nendo on Dec 01, 2011, 11:03:28 AM
I don't care about the egg thingy or whatever. I care about the alien body on the bottom right of the picture
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I'm hoping it's some kind of wrecked up mutated human mistake experiment thing personally. Half way between a person and a giger monster.
Quote from: JaaayDee on Dec 01, 2011, 02:55:33 AM
Graded according to the footage in Comic Con:
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now THAT looks a helluva lot better !!
Quote from: JKS1 on Dec 01, 2011, 11:09:53 AM
Quote from: JaaayDee on Dec 01, 2011, 02:55:33 AM
Graded according to the footage in Comic Con:
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now THAT looks a helluva lot better !!
Maybe Riddley can ask the Strausse brothers to help him with the grading :D
Quote from: ThisBethesdaSea on Nov 30, 2011, 04:12:59 AM
What white guy doesn't look like the head in the Ampule room? Jesus...next..lol :)
Why bring race or skin colour into it ??!
Quote from: Tough little S.O.B. on Dec 01, 2011, 11:18:30 AM
Quote from: JKS1 on Dec 01, 2011, 11:09:53 AM
Quote from: JaaayDee on Dec 01, 2011, 02:55:33 AM
Graded according to the footage in Comic Con:
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now THAT looks a helluva lot better !!
Maybe Riddley can ask the Strausse brothers to help him with the grading :D
promo images are always lighter than the final version due to the post production still being carried out
Quote from: JKS1 on Dec 01, 2011, 11:20:17 AM
Quote from: ThisBethesdaSea on Nov 30, 2011, 04:12:59 AM
What white guy doesn't look like the head in the Ampule room? Jesus...next..lol :)
Why bring race or skin colour into it ??!
Looks like a white guy to me too. Now why would THAT be? Why the heck would an ancient alien race of 'Engineers' have a giant modern Anglo-European face hanging around? If they
were somehow responsible for 'seeding' humans then those humans surely didn't look like that. Unless you ignore evolution, and have some time travel crap, and yes this is science fiction, and yes Ridley mention Erich von Daniken and...
Oh no...
-Chris.
EDIT: Nah, this is gonna be ace. ;)
Quote from: ChrisPachi on Dec 01, 2011, 11:35:27 AM
Quote from: JKS1 on Dec 01, 2011, 11:20:17 AM
Quote from: ThisBethesdaSea on Nov 30, 2011, 04:12:59 AM
What white guy doesn't look like the head in the Ampule room? Jesus...next..lol :)
Why bring race or skin colour into it ??!
Looks like a white guy to me too. Now why would THAT be? Why the heck would an ancient alien race of 'Engineers' have a giant modern Anglo-European face hanging around? If they were somehow responsible for 'seeding' humans then those humans surely didn't look like that. Unless you ignore evolution, and have some time travel crap, and yes this is science fiction, and yes Ridley mention Erich von Daniken and...
Oh no...
-Chris.
EDIT: Nah, this is gonna be ace. ;)
Yeah it does to me too, but why say 'what white guy wouldnt like it?'
implying that anyone non-white wont like it, or that the people who dont like the look of the head dont like it because theyre not white
ridiculous really
the apparent ethnicity of the head didnt even occur to me in the slightest when I first saw it
Quote from: josh_axey on Dec 01, 2011, 11:06:15 AM
Quote from: nendo on Dec 01, 2011, 11:03:28 AM
I don't care about the egg thingy or whatever. I care about the alien body on the bottom right of the picture
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I'm hoping it's some kind of wrecked up mutated human mistake experiment thing personally. Half way between a person and a giger monster.
First thing i saw when i opened the picture ;D Really curious now :laugh:
Quote from: JKS1 on Dec 01, 2011, 11:45:13 AM
Quote from: ChrisPachi on Dec 01, 2011, 11:35:27 AM
Quote from: JKS1 on Dec 01, 2011, 11:20:17 AM
Quote from: ThisBethesdaSea on Nov 30, 2011, 04:12:59 AM
What white guy doesn't look like the head in the Ampule room? Jesus...next..lol :)
Why bring race or skin colour into it ??!
Looks like a white guy to me too. Now why would THAT be? Why the heck would an ancient alien race of 'Engineers' have a giant modern Anglo-European face hanging around? If they were somehow responsible for 'seeding' humans then those humans surely didn't look like that. Unless you ignore evolution, and have some time travel crap, and yes this is science fiction, and yes Ridley mention Erich von Daniken and...
Oh no...
-Chris.
EDIT: Nah, this is gonna be ace. ;)
Yeah it does to me too, but why say 'what white guy wouldnt like it?'
implying that anyone non-white wont like it, or that the people who dont like the look of the head dont like it because theyre not white
ridiculous really
the apparent ethnicity of the head didnt even occur to me in the slightest when I first saw it
Dude, your not even reading posts correctly.
Let's stick to the topic at hand, guys.
Quote from: Highland on Dec 01, 2011, 11:49:17 AM
Quote from: JKS1 on Dec 01, 2011, 11:45:13 AM
Quote from: ChrisPachi on Dec 01, 2011, 11:35:27 AM
Quote from: JKS1 on Dec 01, 2011, 11:20:17 AM
Quote from: ThisBethesdaSea on Nov 30, 2011, 04:12:59 AM
What white guy doesn't look like the head in the Ampule room? Jesus...next..lol :)
Why bring race or skin colour into it ??!
Looks like a white guy to me too. Now why would THAT be? Why the heck would an ancient alien race of 'Engineers' have a giant modern Anglo-European face hanging around? If they were somehow responsible for 'seeding' humans then those humans surely didn't look like that. Unless you ignore evolution, and have some time travel crap, and yes this is science fiction, and yes Ridley mention Erich von Daniken and...
Oh no...
-Chris.
EDIT: Nah, this is gonna be ace. ;)
Yeah it does to me too, but why say 'what white guy wouldnt like it?'
implying that anyone non-white wont like it, or that the people who dont like the look of the head dont like it because theyre not white
ridiculous really
the apparent ethnicity of the head didnt even occur to me in the slightest when I first saw it
Dude, your not even reading posts correctly.
Whoops !!
Apologies are in order :D :D
Completely dyslexic moment there
http://collider.com/wp-content/uploads/PROMETHEUS-monolith.jpg (http://collider.com/wp-content/uploads/PROMETHEUS-monolith.jpg)
While I was a little disappointed by how human the head looked when we first saw the pics, I really like the look of it in this HD image. It certainly has more of a 'Gigerish' vibe to it, and I like the idea that the head in the room is human, because in this room is where they keep all the DNA to create humans ?
Quote from: JKS1 on Dec 01, 2011, 11:52:47 AM...ethnicity of the head
A brilliant mystery!
-Chris.
is it just me or does the space suits look pretty unimpressive. Looks like the costume from xmen first class. Also the interior of the humans space craft looks kinda basic. The ampule room looks amazing tho and that face on the wall is of the hook!
Quote from: Hicks101 on Dec 01, 2011, 12:42:36 PM
is it just me or does the space suits look pretty unimpressive. Looks like the costume from xmen first class. Also the interior of the humans space craft looks kinda basic.
Looking at a high resolution picture you can see that the suits are somewhat scratched and dusty. Nothing like the Nostromo's junked up suits, but then again these guys are professional scientists. Haven't seen enough of the human ship to make any judgment calls on it.
how many years after alien is it meant to take place?
Quote from: Hicks101 on Dec 01, 2011, 01:06:46 PM
how many years after alien is it meant to take place?
its a "prequel" its set before
Quote from: Hicks101 on Dec 01, 2011, 12:42:36 PM
is it just me or does the space suits look pretty unimpressive. Looks like the costume from xmen first class. Also the interior of the humans space craft looks kinda basic. The ampule room looks amazing tho and that face on the wall is of the hook!
I would probably say this is an enviroment suit. Not a space suit
If it's an egg, then it's tilted on it's side with either the top or base mostly toward the camera. I don't buy it, though. I have to admit I'm seeing more xenomorph than jockey in the prone body, but then no-one knows what a Jockey looks like from the hips down, do they? It's all very intriguing!
First post, long time lurker! Hello all!
Let there be no mistake, this is a dead body of "something" :o
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Credit to the person who enhanced this picture from this thread:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=423722&page=24 (http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=423722&page=24)
Can't wait for the movie!
Quote from: robbritton on Dec 01, 2011, 01:22:49 PM
If it's an egg, then it's tilted on it's side with either the top or base mostly toward the camera. I don't buy it, though. I have to admit I'm seeing more xenomorph than jockey in the prone body, but then no-one knows what a Jockey looks like from the hips down, do they? It's all very intriguing!
I spoke to Ridley last night on the phone and he told me that they are building that idea into the ad campaign.
Something like: "you've seen it's head and shoulders........but now.........look at it's arse".
It's a winner in my book.
I have to be totally honest here...
I'm very disappointed with this creature design. :-\
It seems to be a ADI creature and a Space Jockey with legs... :'(
Quote from: nendo on Dec 01, 2011, 01:10:00 PM
Quote from: Hicks101 on Dec 01, 2011, 01:06:46 PM
how many years after alien is it meant to take place?
its a "prequel" its set before
Quote from: Hicks101 on Dec 01, 2011, 12:42:36 PM
is it just me or does the space suits look pretty unimpressive. Looks like the costume from xmen first class. Also the interior of the humans space craft looks kinda basic. The ampule room looks amazing tho and that face on the wall is of the hook!
I would probably say this is an enviroment suit. Not a space suit
Sorry i meant how many years before is it meant to be set? The suit looks slightly more advanced than the one in the first film .
Oh wow I was thinking you all were crazy but with that new pic it is clearly something dead And why are you guys disappointed?? We know NOTHING about what is really going on in these pics. I'm sure it will blow all of our minds!!
I'm sure this movie will be great,but now i didn´t expect to see great Giger creatures and designs on it.
More and more i realize that Giger had little to do with this film...hope to be wrong. :'(
Quote from: Ivymike on Dec 01, 2011, 02:49:42 PM
I'm sure this movie will be great,but now i didn´t expect to see great Giger creatures and designs on it.
More and more i realize that Giger had little to do with this film...hope to be wrong. :'(
But the pic above...with the brightness adjusted...the figure on the floor to the right...it screams GIGER!!!
Look carefully at the thing´s abdomen.Look too organic,the same for the legs.
Seems more like the Newborn to me,not something machine like as the Giger creations.
I do not like the idea of the SJ having two legs.I expected something more...bizarre as the original Jockey.
Again...hope to be wrong.
Hey those official high-res photos look great. Now bring on the teaser trailer, FOX, because I refuse to watch that shitty leaked video.
Whatever that object is, it's got the Giger vibe.
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Its unfair that we have to wait another 7 months for this film to be out :(
Quote from: robbritton on Dec 01, 2011, 01:22:49 PM
If it's an egg, then it's tilted on it's side with either the top or base mostly toward the camera. I don't buy it, though. I have to admit I'm seeing more xenomorph than jockey in the prone body, but then no-one knows what a Jockey looks like from the hips down, do they? It's all very intriguing!
I dont think it is an egg, to me it looks like possibly the head of creature on the ground like its been decapitated or something
Quote from: Biomechanoid20 on Dec 01, 2011, 04:10:13 PM
Whatever that object is, it's got the Giger vibe.
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I'm still not 100% sold on that it's a head. But ^ that helps illustrate what you've all been seeing. It's hard to imagine how something so presumably big and powerful (not to mention high intelligence) could end up decapitated in a pretty benign environment such is that one. Those humans don't look like they did it. More of a discovery scene it appears to be. I like a good mystery.
Maybe it's just the Jockey's helmet? And it's true head is obscured by that massive barrel chest of ribs.
As for the rest of it's body ... it looks like a logical continuation of what's been establish/shown in Alien. The real prize is what's inside. I personally like that it mirrors/resembles human. Especially if it had a hand in the creation of mankind itself and ultimately our favorite xenomorph.
It's a dead facehugger egg and a dead engineer (or maybe just his suit).
Eggs are an already centuries old weapon, thus is what the Derelict Engineer was fosilised.
Prometheus is not about the origin of the xeno, they already exist.
They are cheating with the Engineer's size,it will not be as huge as the one from ALIEN.
But it will work, thanks to some clever camera work.
It's an Engineer that risesin front of the sandstorm in the leaked trailer.
Quote from: Engineer1 on Dec 01, 2011, 05:32:09 PM
It's a dead facehugger egg and a dead engineer (or maybe just his suit).
Eggs are an already centuries old weapon, thus is what the Derelict Engineer was fosilised.
Prometheus is not about the origin of the xeno, they already exist.
They are cheating with the Engineer's size,it will not be as huge as the one from ALIEN.
But it will work, thanks to some clever camera work.
It's an Engineer that risesin front of the sandstorm in the leaked trailer.
Why would there be one random Alien egg in the middle of the floor.
Cool new pictures, what is that weird Alien on the floor?.
Space Jockey maybe?.
Quote from: Biomechanoid20 on Dec 01, 2011, 04:10:13 PM
Whatever that object is, it's got the Giger vibe.
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You got a point my friend. It is so Gigerish. Can´t wait to see it on screen.
Quote from: Berserker Pred on Dec 01, 2011, 04:21:33 PM
Its unfair that we have to wait another 7 months for this film to be out :(
Even more unfair that in June I have to walk out of the cinema and still have to wait month for the BluRay release...;)
Quote from: mastermoon on Dec 01, 2011, 05:59:34 PM
Cool new pictures, what is that weird Alien on the floor?.
Space Jockey maybe?.
*** points to previous 26 pages of debate ****
The legs of the dead "jockey" looks very alien like...interesting. So maybe jockeys and aliens share some parts of the same DNA... ???
Quote from: Engineer1 on Dec 01, 2011, 05:32:09 PM
It's a dead facehugger egg and a dead engineer (or maybe just his suit).
Eggs are an already centuries old weapon, thus is what the Derelict Engineer was fosilised.
Prometheus is not about the origin of the xeno, they already exist.
They are cheating with the Engineer's size,it will not be as huge as the one from ALIEN.
But it will work, thanks to some clever camera work.
It's an Engineer that risesin front of the sandstorm in the leaked trailer.
Engineer,
I get the impression, by your previous and last post, that you have some "inside knowledge" on Prometheus.
Your posts are never questions, but always statements, as if you are sure of what you are saying.
Care to comment, or am I over analysing your posts?
Quote from: Hicks101 on Dec 01, 2011, 02:27:31 PM
Quote from: nendo on Dec 01, 2011, 01:10:00 PM
Quote from: Hicks101 on Dec 01, 2011, 01:06:46 PM
how many years after alien is it meant to take place?
its a "prequel" its set before
Quote from: Hicks101 on Dec 01, 2011, 12:42:36 PM
is it just me or does the space suits look pretty unimpressive. Looks like the costume from xmen first class. Also the interior of the humans space craft looks kinda basic. The ampule room looks amazing tho and that face on the wall is of the hook!
I would probably say this is an enviroment suit. Not a space suit
Sorry i meant how many years before is it meant to be set? The suit looks slightly more advanced than the one in the first film .
Personally I am okay with certain technology and suits etc looking a little more advanced in this film then in the original film. I mean, the crew of the Nostromo were space truckers, and may have already been using old tech anyway, maybe a ship that was already 40 or so years old. Old suits too. Where as in this film, we are following, say, NASA type people.
I look at it like this, people are still driving trucks and cars today made in the 70's, and when sitting next to a new vehicle at a red light, you can see a big tech and visual difference, but things are still familiar. You know?
Quote from: Miker25 on Dec 01, 2011, 04:32:39 PM
Quote from: robbritton on Dec 01, 2011, 01:22:49 PM
If it's an egg, then it's tilted on it's side with either the top or base mostly toward the camera. I don't buy it, though. I have to admit I'm seeing more xenomorph than jockey in the prone body, but then no-one knows what a Jockey looks like from the hips down, do they? It's all very intriguing!
I dont think it is an egg, to me it looks like possibly the head of creature on the ground like its been decapitated or something
I was thinking the same thing.
It fairly seems to me like an egg! then again why would they go there if it only has the ALIEN feel to it and not the elements? it may only be a reference though .....
I have a feeling , that so called alien egg from the promo image will play a major role in the movie....like it does in the Alien..
I'm looking at the high res version of the picture (albiet not the one that has been brightened up significantly) and all I can say is while the shape has some familiar elements to it no one can say for certain what it is. Based on the flashlights shining on it we can def. say that the textures are reminiscent of the egg from Alien, however the details at the bottom and some of the shadows make it seem like it could easily be a head. The shape is one of the things that throws everything off... it's too round to make me think of a head or an egg. If it's an egg it's obviously not like the oval eggs we know. The space jockey's head in Alien was somewhat round but this looks like almost a perfect sphere. The proximity to the body and the angle allow for guesses that it's the head, though like mentioned the decapitation seems strange? There is nothing like it in the other pictures which is weird because eggs have always been found together before.
I will say the low-res trailer cut does appear to have the item we are discussing with something "bursting" out??
Quote from: Highland on Dec 01, 2011, 05:56:59 PM
Why would there be one random Alien egg in the middle of the floor.
Since Xenos won't appear, could be one of the few hints to ALIEN.
As for the Engineer suit looking a lot like a xeno is no suprise.
The biomeachnoid technology that created the Xenos is the same that conceived the suit Engineers use.
These suits could be a side product result of the research leading to the Xenos.
Quote from: Look into my eye on Dec 01, 2011, 06:14:52 PM
Engineer,
I get the impression, by your previous and last post, that you have some "inside knowledge" on Prometheus.
Your posts are never questions, but always statements, as if you are sure of what you are saying.
Care to comment, or am I over analysing your posts?
Just guessing... Or am i? :)
yes you are. git outta here, punk.
No your definitely just guessing. I've noticed this about your posts also. Although you wouldn't be the first person with supposed inside knowledge that doesn't actually share anything significant.
I'd say an Alien egg isn't a hint, it's a full blown "This is an Alien Movie" statement.
I really don't understand why people are seeing an egg. It doesn't even resemble an egg apart from it "might" be oval.
Also......
Can anyone dig out the other face picture (the over the shoulder shot where you can see it's nose). I'm sure from memory that the room is set out different to the one with the dead creature. There could be 2 faces in seperate rooms, or the face might rotate.
I'm almost positve you don't see the chamber set out like that in the older screen cap.
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Guys, now when I look at it I see Jockey`s head with closed eyes. That would make sense the decapitated body and head of Jockey with closed eyes.
Quote from: Engineer1 on Dec 01, 2011, 07:28:37 PM
Just guessing... Or am i? :)
Yes, you're guessing but you clearly want people to believe that you've got insider knowledge.
I cannot believe they have posted a production still with a dead creature in the bottom right... what happened to having a big reveal???
To me it also looks a bit lame.
Quote from: St_Eddie on Dec 01, 2011, 08:45:01 PM
Quote from: Engineer1 on Dec 01, 2011, 07:28:37 PM
Just guessing... Or am i? :)
Yes, you're guessing but you clearly want people to believe that you've got insider knowledge.
this.... no offence to the guy, but for me, his credibility went totally out of the window when he called the trailer fake and the moderator/staff liars, then had to backtrack when proven wrong, ive taken no notice of him since then....
thanks
rich
I'm not sure that ball-thing theyre investigating is an egg or a jockey-head...
Looking to the paint image where the "tube" of the Jockey head is outlined, it isnt that pronounced at all and could easily be an egg-flap, but then saying that I'd be playing Devil's advocate as its clearly not a xeno egg (at least a conventional one - the ridges at the top of the sphere are not what would be on an egg).
I guess it could be a Jockey head, as it looks more like one, but it is too small perspective-wise.
See the top-middle Jockey of the six pictures and you can see Giger airbrushing the left of it. That head is waaay bigger than the thing being investigated on the floor. Could be a plain Jockey head from under the helmet (I can see it being the same shape as a small Jockey head with closed eyes)...
...and everyone knows I'm the real film company lurker here ;)
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I made this to backup my observation. Thanks to the person that enlarged the picture in first place.
Quote from: Highland on Dec 01, 2011, 08:25:47 PM
No your definitely just guessing. I've noticed this about your posts also. Although you wouldn't be the first person with supposed inside knowledge that doesn't actually share anything significant.
That's because he's full of it.
The two people I met who worked on this movie who are good mates of my brother and who I've known for years (filming it, they work the cameras etc and call Ridley Scott 'Ridders') - do you know how hard it is to get info out of them? The chosen crew for this movie have so much respect for what they're doing (and the security of their jobs) that they will not let much of anything slip. If Michael Fassbender can't tell you on fear of death then a goddamn grip sure isn't going to say anything - there's nothing in it for them.
4 facts I know
1 - It's akin to The Thing in space.
2 - There are PG13 (PG) versions of scenes and R (18) rated versions of scenes - the R rated stuff is said to be truly horrific
3 - There are massive xenos somewhere in the movie but not as we know them
4 - The guys who talked to me about it (briefly) just call the movie Alien rather than Prometheus out of force of habit...
this is all old news and I heard about this a good six months or so ago, it's all common knowledge now. This is about the only info you're ever going to squeeze out of crew members - anything else is going to mean somebody's getting fired.
Just sayin ;)
Decapitated Jockey interesting... nice find dude.
I think there were more corpses of the Space Jockey beings in the derelict. This one, clearly doesn't look like the one we saw in Alien.
better quality,sorry if it has already been posted.as fot he object they are strudying i though it was a egg type thing with a facehugger inside but it looks like something else
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Is it just me, but to the right of the frame there appears to be some human tech.... maybe the humans accidentally ran over a SJ and this is the after image where they are trying to figure out wtf they hit.
Giger's 1978 concept painting 'Alien Hieroglyphics' always intrigued and bothered me, as it shows a race of beings purposefully impregnating each other to create aliens. (I know that this concept was never shown in the film and is not considered part of the canon at all, but it is one of Giger's more impressive concept works IMO). This post is shamelessly speculative and full of blundering assumptions, but let's say that Ridley has been informed by this artwork when figuring out his origin story for Prometheus (of course there may not even be an origin story in Prometheus).
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What I never understood about this idea was, if the beings depicted were an advanced form of the alien then their one-for-one breeding program wouldn't of worked out too well. When we think of how they might of evolved we end up with a 'chicken and the egg' paradox, so you can assume that they didn't evolve on their own. Unless of course they are not the adult aliens at all but actually slaves to the aliens' masters, an oppressed sub-race engineered to be hosts for these 'weapons' and maybe even anatomically structured to be able to survive the 'birth'. (It would be handy in this case if you had a reversed rib cage.)
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I speculate that what we are seeing dead on the floor is one of these 'slaves'. To loosely quote Ridley: "what they find is civilization, but with very uncivilized behavior". I also speculate that they are, somehow, related to human beings. These are the cats that challenge their 'gods' and are punished for it.
And if the round thing on the ground is a head, it looks far more like one of these guys than it does an SJ IMO.
-Chris.
P.S. I am just guessing, don't hurt me! ;)
Anyone else notice the runes or hieroglyphs in the human face?
The character depicted in the Giger hieroglyph looks suspiciously like a Space Jockey to me.....and didn't Lindelof just tweet that image saying that it would be important in Prometheus? If you think about it, while looking at Gigers image.....it shows a man or something in a pyramid being impregnated by something from an egg..,.at this point that something doesn't have to automatically be a Xeno as we know them...it could be anything, and the modus aperandi is egg-facehugger-unknown creature.
I never saw it as purposely impregnating. The "jockeys" may just have "discovered" the eggs. Harder to tell, but if it was a bio weapon, then it would make sense to have to have some sort of host here.
Quote from: ThisBethesdaSea on Dec 01, 2011, 10:49:22 PM...and didn't Lindelof just tweet that image saying that it would be important in Prometheus?
Really!? Boom! ;D
I agree they do look like Jockeys, but maybe more half Jockey, half human?
-Chris.
Quote from: ThisBethesdaSea on Dec 01, 2011, 10:49:22 PM
Anyone else notice the runes or hieroglyphs in the human face?
The character depicted in the Giger hieroglyph looks suspiciously like a Space Jockey to me.....and didn't Lindelof just tweet that image saying that it would be important in Prometheus? If you think about it, while looking at Gigers image.....it shows a man or something in a pyramid being impregnated by something from an egg..,.at this point that something doesn't have to automatically be a Xeno as we know them...it could be anything, and the modus aperandi is egg-facehugger-unknown creature.
link to lindelof comment?
Quote from: RICH-ENGLAND on Dec 01, 2011, 08:54:12 PM
Quote from: St_Eddie on Dec 01, 2011, 08:45:01 PM
Quote from: Engineer1 on Dec 01, 2011, 07:28:37 PM
Just guessing... Or am i? :)
Yes, you're guessing but you clearly want people to believe that you've got insider knowledge.
this.... no offence to the guy, but for me, his credibility went totally out of the window when he called the trailer fake and the moderator/staff liars, then had to backtrack when proven wrong, ive taken no notice of him since then....
thanks
rich
Seriuously how can someone look at the trailer and say fake without irony...
Whatever...
Lets just stay civil guys it's a movie we're talking about no need for any agressivity.
I feel a lot in your posts but it might be just the internet.
If you play nice i might share something some mods already have ;)
Or not i guess...
Quote from: Engineer1 on Dec 01, 2011, 11:29:57 PM
Quote from: RICH-ENGLAND on Dec 01, 2011, 08:54:12 PM
Quote from: St_Eddie on Dec 01, 2011, 08:45:01 PM
Quote from: Engineer1 on Dec 01, 2011, 07:28:37 PM
Just guessing... Or am i? :)
Yes, you're guessing but you clearly want people to believe that you've got insider knowledge.
this.... no offence to the guy, but for me, his credibility went totally out of the window when he called the trailer fake and the moderator/staff liars, then had to backtrack when proven wrong, ive taken no notice of him since then....
thanks
rich
Seriuously how can someone look at the trailer and say fake without irony...
Whatever...
Just stay civil guys it's a movie we're talking about no need for name calling or any agressivity.
If you play nice i might share something the mods already have ;)
Or not...
I don't recall anyone getting agressive with you or resorting to name calling. Quit playing the victim.
You can keep whatever information you possess to yourself, considering it'll just be from your imagination anyway. Seriously, your routine's starting to get old real fast.
I've been made!
You're good!
So what harm can it do to you since it's pure fantasy.
I dont get it...
And yeah i would definitly involve mods in such claims.
I'm THAT delusional.
Oh my you fanboys.
face palm ???
It wouldn't be an Internet forum without a member asserting he/she has knowledge of something of which they clearly do not.
I said i'm guessing... And you say i'm lying about providing stuff to mods.
As beth said it's clear.
So whats the fuss about?
???
This thread is ridiculous, as it is, so y'all should keep it quiet or else the mods are gonna hurt you.
EDIT: They've got knives.
Quote from: ThisBethesdaSea on Dec 01, 2011, 11:40:00 PM
It wouldn't be an Internet forum without a member asserting he/she has knowledge of something of which they clearly do not.
dude, could you provide a link to where lindelof mentioned how that image in your previous post was going to be important in Prometheus?
Quote from: BonesawT101 on Dec 01, 2011, 11:43:25 PM
Quote from: ThisBethesdaSea on Dec 01, 2011, 11:40:00 PM
It wouldn't be an Internet forum without a member asserting he/she has knowledge of something of which they clearly do not.
dude, could you provide a link to where lindelof mentioned how that image in your previous post was going to be important in Prometheus?
+1 pls
Quote from: Engineer1 on Dec 01, 2011, 11:38:25 PM
So what harm can it do to you since it's pure fantasy.
I dont get it...
Nobody minds you using your imagination to produce theories and speculation. Afterall, that's what the rest of us are doing. It's when you purposefully imply those thoughts as factual that problems arise.
Quote from: Engineer1 on Dec 01, 2011, 11:38:25 PMAnd yeah i would definitly involve mods in such claims.
I'm that delusional...
Oh my you fanboys.
If one of the moderators cares to tell me I'm wrong and you know something we don't, then I'll glady drop it, apologise and back down.
Also, you've now labelled me as a fanboy, in addition to telling me that I have anger management issues. What was that you said about aggression and name calling?!
Quote from: BonesawT101 on Dec 01, 2011, 11:43:25 PMdude, could you provide a link to where lindelof mentioned how that image in your previous post was going to be important in Prometheus?
I second this notion.
Quote from: BonesawT101 on Dec 01, 2011, 11:43:25 PM...could you provide a link to where lindelof mentioned how that image in your previous post was going to be important in Prometheus?
Pretty please! ;)
-Chris.
For the guys arguing between themselves:Spoiler
Ignoring someone on a forum is much more effective then egging them on if you're in disagreeance.
Please try to keep the topic on track otherwise it will spiral out of control...
<3
On topic:
I still find the image quality to be odd....
Definately legit (how the heck would someone get the images, especially the set image otherwise?)... but really low image resolution for such a large image size.
Also, if you have a look through/search through Lindelof's twitter it should be there somewhere... I vaguely recall seeing it posted somewhere else?
checked his twitter but can't find the comment
Spoiler
I just made a joke in an aswer to a fellow.
Teasing a bit. Just take my post as fanfiction from now on.
Deal?
The concerned mod can talk if he wants (as long as he don't burn me lol), but he can't share what he got (not for now).
Soi guess it's back at square one.
BTW You have nothing to apologise for, or do you?
;)
Well since it's the discovery of the face of our gods, it's clearly an important scene ^^
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I made this to backup my observation. Thanks to the person that enlarged the picture in first place.
I updated the image I originally posted. I believe I got the eye-socket misplaced. It should be more like in this slightly more detailed and updated one. Whaddya think?
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Quote from: BonesawT101 on Dec 01, 2011, 11:54:12 PM
checked his twitter but can't find the comment
Can't find it either... :-\ but I seem to remember it...
Quote from: Biomechanoid20 on Dec 02, 2011, 12:11:37 AM
I updated the image I originally posted. I believe I got the eye-socket misplaced. It should be more like in this slightly more detailed and updated one. Whaddya think?
I'm not sure if my mind is playing tricks on me or not now... I can definately now see what you've outlined... but I just dunno.
Great work.
Incredible what we can see when we want to see something.
I'm sold on it for now, I see no reason to say the red outline is not whats there :)
Could be just pareidolia, but I am definitely seeing that now. The fact that you have rather skillfully drawn a face on it might have something to do with it however. ;)
-Chris.
Incredible when we don't see what's obviously there because somehow we've been convinced otherwise...and yet there it sits.
Love you too beth 8)
THE Engineer! ;D
Spoiler
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Quote from: josh_axey on Dec 02, 2011, 12:15:16 AMCan't find it either... :-\ but I seem to remember it...
Yeah, Twitter ain't coughing it up. Maybe it was pulled? Thanks for the info, I'll take your word for it. That's amazing news for me; this image is the most intriguing of the Giger concepts IMO and one of my favorites from the alien 'origin' work.
-Chris.
Quote from: harlock on Dec 02, 2011, 12:17:29 AM
I'm sold on it for now, I see no reason to say the red outline is not whats there :)
Hello,
I am actually pretty sure it's a head.
BUT, it is not facing us. It is facing the observer
(Which is logical) and this is why it looks more of
a sphere (as the back of a skull) rather than a
front head.
The things on the right lying on the ground is
without a doubt a body (Probably SJ).
We'll know that when it'll be release anyway.
Until that time, let's speculate MOUHAHAHA !
PROMETHEUS = ALIEN + LITTLE SHOP OF HORROR!
Audrey is the Engineer!!!
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;)
Quote from: Engineer1 on Dec 02, 2011, 12:33:52 AM
PROMETHEUS = ALIEN + LITTLE SHOP OF HORROR!
Audrey is the Engineer!!!
http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/1263/gigerdesign2.jpg
;)
I don't mind seeing a Prometheus parody movie where the crew enters the ampule room, but instead of ampules, the room is filled with talking space cabbages. ;D
Holy crap a dead Space Jockey :o :o :o :o
Quote from: Engineer1 on Dec 01, 2011, 11:29:57 PM
Quote from: RICH-ENGLAND on Dec 01, 2011, 08:54:12 PM
Quote from: St_Eddie on Dec 01, 2011, 08:45:01 PM
Quote from: Engineer1 on Dec 01, 2011, 07:28:37 PM
Just guessing... Or am i? :)
Yes, you're guessing but you clearly want people to believe that you've got insider knowledge.
this.... no offence to the guy, but for me, his credibility went totally out of the window when he called the trailer fake and the moderator/staff liars, then had to backtrack when proven wrong, ive taken no notice of him since then....
thanks
rich
Seriuously how can someone look at the trailer and say fake without irony...
Whatever...
Lets just stay civil guys it's a movie we're talking about no need for any agressivity.
I feel a lot in your posts but it might be just the internet.
If you play nice i might share something some mods already have ;)
Or not i guess...
im just gonna answer you this once on the subject and then i will drop it....
not once have i been agressive to you, in fact ive not said a single word to you whatsoever.
that was the first and only comment on the situation.
when the moderator posted his breakdown on the trailer he had seen (before it was posted) your words were "fake.... nice try but fake", trying to imply that you knew it was fake because you had nsider knowledge on the whole movie (which you have been implying since the moment you joined), then you tried to test the moderator in question by asking him about the jockeys chair (which was already known anyway) again trying to imply insider knowledge and implying he was lying, he then posted the trailer which made you look rather silly and then you desperately tried to backtrack like you have in this post.......
a comment from you on another thread where you implied you had insider knowledge about giger you said "why woiuld i make such things up, ive got nothing to gain", yet you implied the mods/staff had lied about the trailer when they obviously have a lot to lose by doing so, they have their reputations and the reputation of this site to uphold whereas youre just some random guy... plenty of people do make stuff up cos they want to look cool or something or just want to wind people up, hence all the fake synopsis etc etc.
from that moment on i chose to take no noitice of your pretence of insider knowledge as it was obvious you know nothing except what we all know.
and im no "fanboy", im just a person thats looking forward to a movie and wants to talk to like minded people and im also here because this site is usually the place where all alien/pred news gets to fast just like the leaked trailer.
again, as far as im concerned, its dropped, not interested in arguing, but if youre going to make out you have insider knowledge then you should back it up with proof, otherwise just stick to speculating or saying its your opinion.
thanks
rich
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seems the head theory is legit,although they seem to be looking with the flash lights inside the thing,or maybe it's just the light from the flashlights shining on the surface of the head.also if that really is a body in the right,then if you look at the chest,the ridge in the middle looks a bit like the ridge on the chest of the dead spacejockey in alien.
Still not sold on the head theory. I am guessing its what the space suited figure has in the bag in the official still, though.
Same here...it COULD be a head as well but i'm missing a clearshape, contours and all that stuff...looks too much like an orb.
Quote from: Never say no to Panda! on Dec 02, 2011, 01:23:22 AM
Same here...it COULD be a head as well but i'm missing a clearshape, contours and all that stuff...looks too much like an orb.
Yeah... you can see them looking at that picture montage, but when you look at the normal old image for a bit... the lines "I see" seem to fade away into a shiny orb like thing again... no decernable features...
Still not 100% sold... who knows what it is :-\
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There's definitely a similarity.....dunno...because the shot of the dead Jockey shows no head, and the room is filled with urns, it's more likely that it's the Jockey head then it is a Xeno egg. Because the Xenos as we know them won't be featured in this film, an obvious trope like an identifiable egg has less likely of a chance of being present. Who knows.
Long time lurker so I finally decided to set-up an account because I have really been enjoying the analysis and discussion everyone has been having.
Cheers!
Though, it could be the angle. There's no confirmation old jockey lost his head.
what if that dead body is a suit,and the thing on the floor is just the helmet of the suit.both of them with nothing inside
Hum hum hum...
Fiddling with saturation, colours, brightness...
(EDIT: to try and pick certain bits up easier, not for better image quality lol)
Click the images to enlarge.
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I see contours running down the middle of the base of the object being inspected, a cleavage if you will (shut up), which makes me think I now definately don't see the face/head pointed out before.
Looks more like the "lips" of the egg... but I don't believe it's that either.
I also noticed the arm, hand, bag, leg and foot of the person rightmost in the image is clearer after fiddling.
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*shrug* take from that what you will...
Must be Fassbender, then.
Quote from: MrSpaceJockey on Dec 02, 2011, 01:55:50 AM
Must be Fassbender, then.
i think fassbender is the one pointing the torch at the big face in the middle, i think its logan marshall green as he was pictured in that area too in the press photos.
thanks
rich
I see, but in the magazine stills, you see that David is the one with the large bag.
I'm guessing, assuming they don't switch over, or that they all have the satchels or something.
Quote from: MrSpaceJockey on Dec 02, 2011, 02:02:06 AM
I see, but in the magazine stills, you see that David is the one with the large bag.
I'm guessing, assuming they don't switch over, or that they all have the satchels or something.
yes, odd but on the photo taken from the other end of the room, its fassbender in the centre pointing the torch and i dont think he has the bag then so maybe he hands it to green at some point, either that or they all wander round the room swapping places! lol..
thanks
rich
Quote from: RICH-ENGLAND on Dec 02, 2011, 02:07:30 AM
Quote from: MrSpaceJockey on Dec 02, 2011, 02:02:06 AM
I see, but in the magazine stills, you see that David is the one with the large bag.
I'm guessing, assuming they don't switch over, or that they all have the satchels or something.
yes, odd but on the photo taken from the other end of the room, its fassbender in the centre pointing the torch and i dont think he has the bag then so maybe he hands it to green at some point, either that or they all wander round the room swapping places! lol..
thanks
rich
the one with fassbender in the center is a movie still,the ones from ew are photographs done by a kerry brown just for promotion
Rich
Spoiler
My my why so serious? I mena why so angry?
So i'm saying i'm making a joke when i say fake, you say i was seriously accusing a mod of lying.
Ok well you seems to know better than me what i do or think.
I must be a real kamikaze coz after calling a mod a lier, i'm now invoking one saying i provided him with material...
Wow that is some suicidal tendencies...
I will not share anything that proves anything, i don't need to.
I'll keep posting the way i do, even if it makes you angry again.
But since you made me, and you don't care for my fanfic/facts/opinion/thesis all is right as rain, you can continue to dismiss the poor slob who wants to look cool for school in front of unknown fanboys from internet.
That's what i will do.
Thanks rich
Let's not drag this on.
ALL YOU HAD TO DO WAS POST THE DAMN SOURCES, CJ.
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Just quick overpaint, judge for yourself I won't comment anything ;]
Quote from: zuzuki on Dec 02, 2011, 02:19:50 AM
Quote from: RICH-ENGLAND on Dec 02, 2011, 02:07:30 AM
Quote from: MrSpaceJockey on Dec 02, 2011, 02:02:06 AM
I see, but in the magazine stills, you see that David is the one with the large bag.
I'm guessing, assuming they don't switch over, or that they all have the satchels or something.
yes, odd but on the photo taken from the other end of the room, its fassbender in the centre pointing the torch and i dont think he has the bag then so maybe he hands it to green at some point, either that or they all wander round the room swapping places! lol..
thanks
rich
the one with fassbender in the center is a movie still,the ones from ew are photographs done by a kerry brown just for promotion
i know that, theres a pic from either end of that room that are movie stills as far as im aware which is the ones im talking about, the one we are discussing now and another showing fassbender looking up at the head with rapace and dickie behind him , the one with logan marshall green stood on the left is a promo shot, im just saying that logan marshall green was photographed in that area so to me it seems likely that its him on the right of the picture were discussing now.
thanks
rich
Spoiler
Sorry for all the drama.
This was over for me a while ago but some can't stop provocking antagonisms.
For what, i wonder...
I just dont like the fact tha people put words or intentions in my mouth since they can read my post and see what i exactly mean without interpreting them.
I'm with team EGG ^^
EDIT:
Quote from: chupacabras acheronsis on Dec 02, 2011, 02:31:36 AM
ALL YOU HAD TO DO WAS POST THE DAMN SOURCES, CJ.
Spoiler
I'm sorry is that for me?
If it is, well the only thing i stated as a fact was the whole Giger is not on board thingie.
I explained and gave details but even then somewere not satisfied.
Well that fine by me. They just have to ignore me.
As for the rest i never said they are facts, people believe or not i'm not going to change the way i write just to please some. Take it or leave it.
As for providing sources, like i said somemods have them.
They will not reaveal it as i asked them.
If i'm lying well, they will definitly intervene and give a lesson no?
It's Logan Marshall Green as clearly seen in the Ampule room with everyone else.
Guy with the light or guy with the bag, in the far right?
I adjusted the gamma, upped the saturation and set the linear curves 36 over 98. The truth revealed
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That's the spirit!
Thanks for the laugh.
It's missing a lot from here.
Not enough love around.
Nah I think Prometheus terrible secret will be revealed there...
Spoiler
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I know everyone is talking about the pic with the supposedly dead creature laying on the ground. But why isnt anyone saying anything about the picture with the three people standing and looking towards us. In the bottom right hand corner, amongst all kinds of "urns" there sure seems to be what looks like an opened egg. Or at least a fossilized one that has been opened.
Also it sure does seem to me like that is a statue laying on the floor. For one, if it is a Xeno with no head then I am pretty sure that the acid it has for blood would have pretty much ate away at it or the surroundings you know. If it is not a statue then I am pretty confident that it is a SJ. It just looks to think in the leg area to be a Xeno and not a space jockey..... Anthony
Quote from: ThisBethesdaSea on Dec 01, 2011, 01:19:34 AM
http://geektyrant.com/storage/post-images/AlienSpaceJockey.jpg?__SQUARESPACE_CACHEVERSION=1272907614816
I just thought about this based on the ALIEN Space jockey.....there's not really enough room in that canon cockpit for Jockey legs. So he either doesn't have any or the Jockey and the canon are the definition of biomechanical????
Actually... looking at that one pic, am I seeing the Jockeys leg at the bottom right. It kind of matches the color of the jockey..... Anthony
it doesn't look headless to me. it may be the angle its laying relative to the camera, because you cant see the top of the ribcage
Quote from: AnthonyWC70788 on Dec 02, 2011, 03:10:06 AM
I know everyone is talking about the pic with the supposedly dead creature laying on the ground. But why isnt anyone saying anything about the picture with the three people standing and looking towards us. In the bottom right hand corner, amongst all kinds of "urns" there sure seems to be what looks like an opened egg. Or at least a fossilized one that has been opened...
I commented on that in my little list before... I swear I see something like that in the bottom right of that image too!
I'm not crazy! :D
I've seen it too. Looks like broken debris and rock to me, like the rest scattered across the Ampule room.
Quote from: josh_axey on Dec 02, 2011, 03:30:01 AM
I commented on that in my little list before... I swear I see something like that in the bottom right of that image too!
I'm not crazy! :D
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Whatever the case may be...these stills are very specifically chosen for release. Obviously they ask more then they answer. What is it? Space Jockey? New Xeno? What? None of this is random.
agree. sneaky bastards
Do you think someone can get crazy from waiting this movie and stalking forums and inet for leaks everyday? :D
Quote from: Ruzena on Dec 02, 2011, 03:45:47 AM
Do you think someone can get crazy from waiting this movie and stalking forums and inet for leaks everyday? :D
yes! all of us are heading that way already ! lol
thanks
rich
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Quote from: m138jewski on Dec 02, 2011, 04:02:13 AM
http://gevbo.files.wordpress.com/2011/11/going-crazy.jpg
Space Jockey. MMMNMMMmmmMMMMM
DoH!!
Quote from: Ruzena on Dec 02, 2011, 03:37:37 AM
...
http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh49/Ruzenator/Eggbag.jpg
Next to the bag mr. funny guy :P
;)
(As always, click to enlarge, clearer outline)
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oh my god...oh, OH MY GOD :o
I'm still convinced the ampules are of slightly differing size and colour in that room looking across the leaked comicon footage, set pics, still, etc.
Also fiddled with the screen from the birdge a bit..
If only these were actually high res images :-\
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awesome, well spotted josh.
thanks
rich
Quote from: RICH-ENGLAND on Dec 02, 2011, 05:17:01 AM
...
My pleasure.
I also noticed the ampule above the bag seems to have the same or similar heiroglyphs on the bottom of it's cone shape..
Everything has just been turned on its head.....again. We don't know shit it seems.
Quote from: ThisBethesdaSea on Dec 02, 2011, 05:19:47 AM
Everything has just been turned on its head.....again. We don't know shit it seems.
But isn't it invigorating? ;)
Quote from: josh_axey on Dec 02, 2011, 05:01:55 AM
Quote from: Ruzena on Dec 02, 2011, 03:37:37 AM
...
http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh49/Ruzenator/Eggbag.jpg
Next to the bag mr. funny guy :P
;)
(As always, click to enlarge, clearer outline)
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I can clearly see bag :D And cabbage ;] Its space cabbage!
Very!!!!!!! :)
I have discovered IT! Its fecking conspiracy, fox leaks unfinished shots and then they gather data from forums and make the movie according to what people see in it!!!!!!!
Its a recipe for killer movie that everyone will love, now Lindeloff if you can read this! You are evil person! Take it!
Its conspiracy !!!!!!!!!!!
*Runs away from screen screaming like in space...* {no on hears him}
im not too sure about their gold sports bags, looks like they got them from some glam rock star, david bowie or something...
thanks
rich
Quote from: RICH-ENGLAND on Dec 02, 2011, 05:26:59 AM
im not too sure about their gold sports bags, looks like they got them from some glam rock star, david bowie or something...
thanks
rich
Theres a Starman waiting in the sky...
Or ground control to Major Shaw... Take your protein pills and put your helmet on
Quote from: josh_axey on Dec 02, 2011, 05:16:27 AM
I'm still convinced the ampules are of slightly differing size and colour in that room looking across the leaked comicon footage, set pics, still, etc.
Also fiddled with the screen from the birdge a bit..
If only these were actually high res images :-\
http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w124/josh_axey/PROMETHEUS-Charlize-Theron-Idris-Elba.jpg
This has me quite intriged as well....
Mr Funny guy looks like an Egg 100%.
Riddley and co can say shit, but i´m 99% sure we will see Eggs, Xenomorphs (in whatever shape or size you want, but Xenomorphs)and Space Jokeys.
Also, would´t it be nice to have Lance Henricksen making an small cameo, so he can clean his name after the AVP shit?
Aaaand as I listed earlier in the thread... suit with a helmet logo, says "MARK II". Can't discern what it says above that.
Also... slightly clearer look at the logo by fiddling with bright/cont, slightly more definition between colour (even if a little more pixelated)
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Hmm...
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i speculate that it says prometheus...
thanks
rich
Quote from: Ruzena on Dec 02, 2011, 02:32:54 AM
http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh49/Ruzenator/dead_sjcopy.jpg
Just quick overpaint, judge for yourself I won't comment anything ;]
I was with the Egg team but this maybe changed my mind here.....
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Topic:Prometheus I have already to see it all.I'm surely fo a bit bout a color of this film.It's look more coloreful tone than old fation.But all about alien things.It's look still old like giger way.That's made me fell may be scott want it that way for made a more contrast bout a human and sj or anything is not like us.For what? for mu opion is might for little bit mass but is great if those two things are defferent.
In old fasion on original film.We will see a spaceship of human look like giger style too.Human should have a mass and go with own style like natural.That's all I like this footage somecolorful is like a logo.logo of who's man or an alien.Anyway I love it all giger fashoin scott style.No matter how bad it is... But is good for me forever caues.I have waiting fo a long time.If these movies have not made.You and I may Crazy to wait and ask for them till die Right?
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Inmyopinion:
This PROMETEUS seems to be more colorful than original.But is ok for me coz is make defferent between Human thing and Alien or sc things out together.It's look more contrast with all bout human in this fotage or films.But still back to dark tone whrn human walk in derelic area.Thst's fell like scott try to tell us giger istyle has more power.can eat everything....
It's very normally to me if suit or space of weyland look so colorful.coz in real.i think human walk along with fashoin with mass.not natural thnigs coz we made.But sc or alien is biomechanic.It's still natural form or something look like birth by nature.Even someone made this but is still a bio technology.No mass ...ALOEN HAVE NO MASS NO ART >>>BUT WE HAD
QuoteThis PROMETEUS seems to be more colorful than original.But is ok for me coz is make defferent between Human thing and Alien or sc things out together.
Welcome to AvPGalaxy :)
Prometheus is being shot in bright lighting for 3D purposes. That's why it seems more colorful. Later, using color grading techniques the lightness and darkness would be balanced to meet the colors of the original.
Quote from: RICH-ENGLAND on Dec 02, 2011, 06:23:37 AM
i speculate that it says prometheus...
thanks
rich
Definitely not. It's too low res to tell what it says but the first half of the word resembles James[something]... There's certainly an 'S' in the middle of the word. The icon of a Centurion styled helmet above the text indicates that it's essentially...
[ARMOUR TYPE OR MANUFACTURER]
Mark II
Quote from: St_Eddie on Dec 02, 2011, 07:44:48 AM
Quote from: RICH-ENGLAND on Dec 02, 2011, 06:23:37 AM
i speculate that it says prometheus...
thanks
rich
Definitely not. It's too low res to tell what it says but the first half of the word resembles James[something]... There's certainly an 'S' in the middle of the word. The icon of a Centurion styled helmet above the text indicates that it's essentially...
[ARMOUR TYPE OR MANUFACTURER]
Mark II
Yup.
This PROMETEUS seems to be more colorful than original.But is ok for me coz is make defferent between Human thing and Alien or sc things out together.Welcome to AvPGalaxy
Prometheus is being shot in bright lighting for 3D purposes. That's why it seems more colorful. Later, using color grading techniques the lightness and darkness would be balanced to meet the colors of the original.
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Quote from: St_Eddie on Dec 02, 2011, 07:44:48 AM
Quote from: RICH-ENGLAND on Dec 02, 2011, 06:23:37 AM
i speculate that it says prometheus...
thanks
rich
Definitely not. It's too low res to tell what it says but the first half of the word resembles James[something]... There's certainly an 'S' in the middle of the word. The icon of a Centurion styled helmet above the text indicates that it's essentially...
[ARMOUR TYPE OR MANUFACTURER]
Mark II
Very hard to make out the letters, but I
think it might say Poseidon.
Quote from: Ruzena on Dec 02, 2011, 02:32:54 AM
http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh49/Ruzenator/dead_sjcopy.jpg
Just quick overpaint, judge for yourself I won't comment anything ;]
I was convinced by this until I had another look at the original -
what appears to be the left-hand eye socket (as we look at it) is actually the torch in Rapace's hand.
Quote from: rbenchley on Dec 02, 2011, 09:26:42 AM
Quote from: St_Eddie on Dec 02, 2011, 07:44:48 AM
Quote from: RICH-ENGLAND on Dec 02, 2011, 06:23:37 AM
i speculate that it says prometheus...
thanks
rich
Definitely not. It's too low res to tell what it says but the first half of the word resembles James[something]... There's certainly an 'S' in the middle of the word. The icon of a Centurion styled helmet above the text indicates that it's essentially...
[ARMOUR TYPE OR MANUFACTURER]
Mark II
Very hard to make out the letters, but I think it might say Poseidon.
Ooohhhh, good guess but unfortunately not so. The 'S' is further into the word than three letters. Still, now that you mention it, the last half of the word does look like '...sidon'. So with my previous guess of the first half being 'James...', that makes...
'JAMESIDON'
... uhhh, scrap that! :-\
Well it has mark 2 underneath, it's on some sort of mechanical life support or machine.
I'm reading Propulsion mark 2.
Could it be some sort of jet pack?
The image of the helmet is the same design from Gladiators. nice lil touch!
Bri
I have a brief theory of the story of the film from the info we have:-
I think the Space Jockeys have been using the trial and error effect over thousands/millions of years to create the 'perfect organism', as Ash describes the Xenomorph.
Our unsuspecting scientists are used as an expriment for the new 'creation'.
It would not surprise me if the Space Jockey itself was a bio-mechanical suit (as others have speculated before) and when one is opened it is revealed to be a human (Guy Pearces part perhaps!)
The Xeno gets out of control and unsuspectingly kills/destroys all nearby, turning all humans and Space Jockey humans into eggs using the 'egg morphing process' and then lays dormant for the next 'hosts' to spread/infect the galaxy......leading to Alien.
Towards the end I think one of the scientists (Infected Rapace perhaps), dons a bio Space Jockey suit to fend off any Aliens to get to the chair we see in Alien, and to send a warning signal before being chestbursted, and in fact what we see is her in Alien in the Space Jockey suit.
As I've read through what Ive written I now know how stupid I may sound and hang my head in shame! Ahem...........
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I'm thinking that inside the containers are(looking at a previous stills)flying bug/insect type creatures.When disturbed in one way or another hatch and primarily do the job of a face-hugger. The dead! humanoid/creature on the floor in one of the latest pictures could be that of a space jockey. So many options and opinions on what could be the roll of the jockeys etc. But The Master Ridley Scott rarely disappoints,I'm expecting good things from this,too much is at stake to mess up with,enjoy...
Quote from: BUGZ on Dec 01, 2011, 09:22:17 PM
Decapitated Jockey interesting... nice find dude.
I don't think it's an egg
or Space Jockey/Engineer head. It's a lot more likely to be something we've never seen.
If only because alleged 'eyelids' aren't bone and don't fossilise. ;)
And if it was an egg, we all know
something would've already happened.
Quote from: ChrisPachi on Dec 01, 2011, 10:48:00 PM
Giger's 1978 concept painting 'Alien Hieroglyphics' always intrigued and bothered me, as it shows a race of beings purposefully impregnating each other to create aliens.
I don't think Giger's intention was ever to demonstrate them deliberately using it on one another. Simply to depict an understanding of the life cycle.
QuoteI agree they do look like Jockeys, but maybe more half Jockey, half human?
They were an early concept design of the Space Jockeys species.
Quote from: BUGZ on Dec 02, 2011, 12:40:27 PM
The image of the helmet is the same design from Gladiators. nice lil touch!
Bri
Oh wow, nicely spotted my friend. I pointed out the Centurion style of the helmet but somehow I completely missed the obvious reference.
Does that mean that Gladiator is now canonical to Alien?! :o :P
Quote from: Biomechanoid20 on Dec 02, 2011, 12:11:37 AM
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My take:
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my take
dots are eyes
The two top line are the top of the eyebrows
and the side and bottom lines are more for me to show a shape of the face XD
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Think too many people are looking into this jockey skull/egg object and seeing what they want to see, I could probs draw a likeness of barack obama on that thing and talk it up to look convincing.
Would be quite coincidental for that corpse to be lying next to an empty egg/vessel, maybe kane would still be laying where he was hugged if the other crew members hadn't recovered him and brought him back to the nostromo?
Quote from: nendo on Dec 02, 2011, 05:58:41 PM
http://img819.imageshack.us/img819/913/spacejockey2.png
my take
dots are eyes
The two top line are the top of the eyebrows
and the side and bottom lines are more for me to show a shape of the face XD
I think you're on to something man.
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Hi people. I was pondering the head or egg thing when I started thinking about its position. It seems to be near the entrance, just inside the big circular stone door and I was wondering if this was a space jockey that had been decapitated by the Giger guillotine thing there.
Haha, that's the real deal! :D
Now count me in for this movie for sure!
Quote from: Biomechanoid20 on Dec 02, 2011, 07:21:20 PM
Quote from: nendo on Dec 02, 2011, 05:58:41 PM
http://img819.imageshack.us/img819/913/spacejockey2.png
my take
dots are eyes
The two top line are the top of the eyebrows
and the side and bottom lines are more for me to show a shape of the face XD
I think you're on to something man.
http://i1103.photobucket.com/albums/g471/muromachi/squidward-head-examination.jpg
We should have known. Squidward is a Space Jockey!
Quote from: Biomechanoid20 on Dec 02, 2011, 07:21:20 PM
http://i1103.photobucket.com/albums/g471/muromachi/squidward-head-examination.jpg
Lol! That reminded me of
Mars attacks's aliens! ;D
Quote from: Biomechanoid20 on Dec 01, 2011, 12:33:41 AM
Hi res pics. One has what looks like the remains of a Space Jockey or similiar creature. :o
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The pics are from here:
http://www.upcominghorrormovies.com/tags/image-galleries/prometheus (http://www.upcominghorrormovies.com/tags/image-galleries/prometheus)
that's definitely a dead body with its head ripped off and the body looks kinda like the River Ghost from Predators 2010
Nooooo! There shouldn't be any Predator references! Get to the choppah!
the big human head has predator writing on it
*jumps out of window*
Small coincidence, minor annoyance.
It's best to not think about it.
Clearly there was an underhand traitor on the team trying to get away with it. Ridley wouldn't give Predator any credence.
Ridley wouldn't do this do us nor himself. No f**king way in the furthest depths of hell.
Let it die....AvP was a colossal waste of all parties involved. It's like taking a masterpiece painting and shitting all over it.
i did a little search on wolfs mask and looked at other pictures of it and i dont see the markings on it...so what i think is that someone did a very editing on the picture but than again id love to see some reference of the predator race...dont hate me for it lol
Quote from: Xenomorphine on Dec 02, 2011, 03:50:07 PMThey were an early concept design of the Space Jockeys species.
Ah I didn't know that. I had always put them with O'Bannon's idea of the pyramid, being a depiction of the alien species not the poor Jockey who found them. I also notice that the chestburster depicted is the old 'chicken' design that was thrown out, or very similar to it.
Quote from: Psycho on Dec 02, 2011, 08:46:56 PMthe big human head has predator writing on it
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-Chris.
there are no such markings on Wolf's Mask, end of story, search all the posters on the internet and you will see there are none with the same markings.
PS: I also think it is a beheaded Jockey.
Damn, i'm busted :-[
And as is see...someone already posted it on IMDB...as usual. ::)
But don't tell 'em about it, maybe someone jumps out of the window :laugh:
Haha nice. Had me fooled.
What a relief. :D
Oh I was so fooled...
Quote from: Semaka on Dec 02, 2011, 10:24:16 PM
there are no such markings on Wolf's Mask, end of story, search all the posters on the internet and you will see there are none with the same markings.
PS: I also think it is a beheaded Jockey.
What if, just think only what IF there is some Predator reference in Prometheus....and, I can't understand the negative reactions on the predator markings on the giant head...we are on Alien vs PREDATOR galaxy.net forum, right..?? ;D
It's an Alien movie, not an AvP movie...
Both Alien and Predator belong to Fox....so...anything is possible...there was some time around a picture of Jockey with predator shoulder gun, it was hoax but , believe me or not I liked that idea.
Quote from: psychonaut25 on Dec 02, 2011, 11:21:44 PM
...and, I can't understand the negative reactions on the predator markings on the giant head...we are on Alien vs PREDATOR galaxy.net forum, right..?? ;D
Well, yeah but I never really understood that myself. A forum 'by name' dedicated to two terrible films. I'm here for ALIEN, and now Prometheus, with the odd reference to a 'franchise' of sorts. Predator doesn't feature at all for me.
I could live with a Predator reference (though i really don't want one)...but not with an AVP:R reference :laugh:
Quote from: Gash on Dec 02, 2011, 11:40:29 PM
Quote from: psychonaut25 on Dec 02, 2011, 11:21:44 PM
...and, I can't understand the negative reactions on the predator markings on the giant head...we are on Alien vs PREDATOR galaxy.net forum, right..?? ;D
Well, yeah but I never really understood that myself. A forum 'by name' dedicated to two terrible films. I'm here for ALIEN, and now Prometheus, with the odd reference to a 'franchise' of sorts. Predator doesn't feature at all for me.
And those 2 terrible films will be??? ??? I can count only one terrible film and that is AVP:Requiem (pure trash)
Quote from: Never say no to Panda! on Dec 02, 2011, 10:24:52 PM
Damn, i'm busted :-[
And as is see...someone already posted it on IMDB...as usual. ::)
But don't tell 'em about it, maybe someone jumps out of the window :laugh:
dang i was hopping it was true :(
Quote from: Gash on Dec 02, 2011, 11:40:29 PMWell, yeah but I never really understood that myself. A forum 'by name' dedicated to two terrible films. I'm here for ALIEN, and now Prometheus, with the odd reference to a 'franchise' of sorts. Predator doesn't feature at all for me.
The site started as a fan site for the PC game Alien vs. Predator 2. It then expanded into areas of interest covering the whole Alien/Predator universe. The site is not dedicated to those 2 movies; it was around before those movies even existed.
-Chris.
Quote from: nendo on Dec 02, 2011, 05:58:41 PM
http://img819.imageshack.us/img819/913/spacejockey2.png
my take
dots are eyes
The two top line are the top of the eyebrows
and the side and bottom lines are more for me to show a shape of the face XD
I am going to be honest. After looking at this picture over and over lighting it and darkening it, I think this is actually what I am seeing here now. I mean I honestly can not see anything else now lol... Anthony
Quote from: Ruzena on Dec 02, 2011, 03:37:37 AM
Quote from: josh_axey on Dec 02, 2011, 03:30:01 AM
I commented on that in my little list before... I swear I see something like that in the bottom right of that image too!
I'm not crazy! :D
http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh49/Ruzenator/Eggbag.jpg
no this is not what we were talking about lmao.
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This is what we are talking about and it seems no one is even paying attention to it lol. This is just as revealing to me as the suppose SJ laying on the ground.... Anthony
i think all of the assumptions and are awesome but we wont be sure til june, this is driving me nuts!!!
Quote from: AnthonyWC70788 on Dec 03, 2011, 02:48:33 AM
Quote from: nendo on Dec 02, 2011, 05:58:41 PM
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my take
dots are eyes
The two top line are the top of the eyebrows
and the side and bottom lines are more for me to show a shape of the face XD
I am going to be honest. After looking at this picture over and over lighting it and darkening it, I think this is actually what I am seeing here now. I mean I honestly can not see anything else now lol... Anthony
Quote from: Ruzena on Dec 02, 2011, 03:37:37 AM
Quote from: josh_axey on Dec 02, 2011, 03:30:01 AM
I commented on that in my little list before... I swear I see something like that in the bottom right of that image too!
I'm not crazy! :D
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Alien "DNA" my arse... that is clearly an Alien egg, it's not even sort of like one, or similar, it's the same egg as Alien. Very excited and clearly the smoke screen isn't quite as effective as they thought...
It's like we are going to make a movie called Krypton... it's sort of a prequel to Superman, but actually it's really become its own stand alone movie... whats that you say you can clearly see superman floating in the corner of a promo shot, pay no attention to superman, move along, move along lol
Quote from: ryanjayhawk on Dec 03, 2011, 03:06:26 AM
Alien "DNA" my arse... that is clearly an Alien egg, it's not even sort of like one, or similar, it's the same egg as Alien. Very excited and clearly the smoke screen isn't quite as effective as they thought...
It's like we are going to make a movie called Krypton... it's sort of a prequel to Superman, but actually it's really become its own stand alone movie... whats that you say you can clearly see superman floating in the corner of a promo shot, pay no attention to superman, move along, move along lol
Exactly what I was thinking. I know I see an egg there just do not see why anyone else isnt seeing it.... Anthony
No, its not. It looks to be cracked debris. The petals are too small, and very mishapen, and considering the xenomorph egg's size, it is proportionally wrong. Has to be something else.
Quote from: ChrisPachi on Dec 03, 2011, 02:19:44 AM
The site started as a fan site for the PC game Alien vs. Predator 2. It then expanded into areas of interest covering the whole Alien/Predator universe. The site is not dedicated to those 2 movies; it was around before those movies even existed.
-Chris.
Ok I get that, but it's an association that should be played down IMHO. It's an unhappy marriage that only tarnishes a classic film. I've never been able to see the 'Alien/Predator universe' as the same thing, anymore than I see the Abbott and Costello films being related to the classic Universal Horror flicks.
Quote from: AnthonyWC70788 on Dec 03, 2011, 02:48:33 AM
Quote from: nendo on Dec 02, 2011, 05:58:41 PM
http://img819.imageshack.us/img819/913/spacejockey2.png
my take
dots are eyes
The two top line are the top of the eyebrows
and the side and bottom lines are more for me to show a shape of the face XD
I am going to be honest. After looking at this picture over and over lighting it and darkening it, I think this is actually what I am seeing here now. I mean I honestly can not see anything else now lol... Anthony
Quote from: Ruzena on Dec 02, 2011, 03:37:37 AM
Quote from: josh_axey on Dec 02, 2011, 03:30:01 AM
I commented on that in my little list before... I swear I see something like that in the bottom right of that image too!
I'm not crazy! :D
http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh49/Ruzenator/Eggbag.jpg
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look at the reactions of people involved and you will see I was kind of kidding you "lmao dude"
Forum getting packed, taking off till the air clears off :D
Prometheus HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH mf predator or any sequel done by anyone else than Ridley Scott ;]
Predator my ass all who think that ;]]]]]
{And its not egg! } ;]]]]
Bai ;]
Quote from: ThisBethesdaSea on Dec 01, 2011, 01:19:34 AM
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I just thought about this based on the ALIEN Space jockey.....there's not really enough room in that canon cockpit for Jockey legs. So he either doesn't have any or the Jockey and the canon are the definition of biomechanical????
I said soemthing about this earlier and no one seemed to interested in it but I actually do see the SJ's legs in that photo. Right below the person climbing up on the right, under their right foot, see the color differential. That sure does look like it matches the SJ color. And would make sense, since the leg looks like it goes underneath a foot pedal of sorts. I guess the other side would look the same as this side. Any one handy with photshop can you please point out exactly what I am talking about... Anthony
It's just molding. And certainly not intentional. Giger wanted it from the beginning to have no legs, growing out of the chair. The leaked photos of the same jockey chair also has these designs, except it was all black (unpainted?) and had no jockey sitting in it.
Quote from: MrSpaceJockey on Dec 03, 2011, 03:19:37 AM
No, its not. It looks to be cracked debris. The petals are too small, and very mishapen, and considering the xenomorph egg's size, it is proportionally wrong. Has to be something else.
I understand exactly what you are saying and I see what you are saying. But none of us are very sure about anything until we see the film. It very well could be some kind of debris.
But what I see is an opened egg of sorts. It could have been opened long ago, who knows, and is kind of dried up. Then again it could be just nothing at all lol.
It just seems strange to me that in the EW photos, that the photo with the believed to be carcass on the ground had another photo over the caracass to cover it or not to reveal to much. And this photo was smaller and that corner was extremely dark. Now when they release the high def photos they reveal the carcass and show this corner and this object is revealed. Sure there are probably a hell of alot of things in that room that they do not want us to see but it sure does seem strange how it seems they are slowly revealing small things here and there that make us tend to believe this is an alien movie or prequel or whatever... Anthony
Quote from: MrSpaceJockey on Dec 03, 2011, 04:42:30 AM
It's just molding. And certainly not intentional. Giger wanted it from the beginning to have no legs, growing out of the chair. The leaked photos of the same jockey chair also has these designs, except it was all black (unpainted?) and had no jockey sitting in it.
Ah ok, gotcha. I never knew about him not wanting him to have legs. Interesting. Then how the hell do you make a movie "supposedly" with a creature or about a creature with no legs lol. This will definitely be interesting lol... Anthony
Well, I do supposed things are changed now that the outside of the jockey we see in ALIEN was just a suit. It could have legs, but they would probably be concealed within.
Who's said it was a Xeno egg? Can't it be something else or some other form of egg?
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Well, I do supposed things are changed now that the outside of the jockey we see in ALIEN was just a suit. It could have legs, but they would probably be concealed within.
Yeah you are right. Only problem with that scenario is how the hell does he get in the suit and to the chair lmao... But yeah I know what you saying, just messing with ya lol... Anthony
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These look beautiful. Good job JaaayDee.
I sure hope to god that the last picture is just a promo shot maybe for a poster or something. If not the sizes of everything through the movie will be way off thats for sure... Anthony
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Quote from: MrSpaceJockey on Dec 03, 2011, 04:50:36 AM
Well, I do supposed things are changed now that the outside of the jockey we see in ALIEN was just a suit. It could have legs, but they would probably be concealed within.
Yeah you are right. Only problem with that scenario is how the hell does he get in the suit and to the chair lmao... But yeah I know what you saying, just messing with ya lol... Anthony
Hopefully some, but not all of our questions will be answered in June. ;)
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Not bad, not bad at all. :) I find the spacesuits a bit too dark for my own taste in the cast pic, though. Good work. :)
Noomi Rapace is freaking hot
Quote from: Gash on Dec 03, 2011, 03:32:22 AMI've never been able to see the 'Alien/Predator universe' as the same thing
Me either mate. Great in video games and books and comics, but wrapping it in celluloid was the worst thing they could of done to the franchise IMO, so I think we agree. Darkness, the site creator, even closed the site down for a time after seeing the first AVP movie.
Jeez, talk about a bad reaction! I mean, I sold my kids and moved to Greenland, but closing down the web site!? Madness. ;)
-Chris.
We are running out of topics here....we need that damm trailer RIGHT NOW!
Quote from: Tough little S.O.B. on Dec 03, 2011, 07:21:18 AMWe are running out of topics here....
...
Quote from: r888 on Dec 03, 2011, 05:08:30 AMNoomi Rapace is freaking hot
There ya go! An argument waiting to happen. ;)
Or not.
-Chris.
Really can't take to this "space jockey is a suit" idea, i know ridley stated it himself , but you can clearly see the creatures skin decayed in the movie plus on the creatures jaw you can see a row of teeth jutting out, I'm convinced that when the original design was approved by ridley it was the actual creatures likeness that was seen in the chair. Just cant imagine seeing a human form emerging from that supposed "suit".
Quote from: Black on Dec 03, 2011, 10:23:07 AM
Really can't take to this "space jockey is a suit" idea, i know ridley stated it himself , but you can clearly see the creatures skin decayed in the movie plus on the creatures jaw you can see a row of teeth jutting out, I'm convinced that when the original design was approved by ridley it was the actual creatures likeness that was seen in the chair. Just cant imagine seeing a human form emerging from that supposed "suit".
It could be a living suit that meshes with whatever species decides to wear it. Which then meshes with the chair.
Quote from: Highland on Dec 03, 2011, 11:11:43 AM
Quote from: Black on Dec 03, 2011, 10:23:07 AM
Really can't take to this "space jockey is a suit" idea, i know ridley stated it himself , but you can clearly see the creatures skin decayed in the movie plus on the creatures jaw you can see a row of teeth jutting out, I'm convinced that when the original design was approved by ridley it was the actual creatures likeness that was seen in the chair. Just cant imagine seeing a human form emerging from that supposed "suit".
It could be a living suit that meshes with whatever species decides to wear it. Which then meshes with the chair.
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But jokes aside, for the race, using bio-mechanical technology, it would be quite reasonable to have space/safety suits of the same type.
Maybe the big creatures are nothing more than Zoanoids.... ;)
Love the Guyver series.
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Quote from: r888 on Dec 03, 2011, 05:08:30 AMNoomi Rapace is freaking hot
Was hot, you mean. ;)
-Chris.
Quote from: ChrisPachi on Dec 02, 2011, 10:07:34 PM
I also notice that the chestburster depicted is the old 'chicken' design that was thrown out, or very similar to it.
Yeees, the 'turkey-burster'... You'll also note the old facehugger design, too. Not sure if it was the cyclops one.
Quote from: Gash on Dec 03, 2011, 03:32:22 AM
Ok I get that, but it's an association that should be played down IMHO. It's an unhappy marriage that only tarnishes a classic film. I've never been able to see the 'Alien/Predator universe' as the same thing, anymore than I see the Abbott and Costello films being related to the classic Universal Horror flicks.
So, you want us to not only rename the site and get a completely different URL, but purge the entire site of all '
Predator' and AVP material in general - including exclusive interviews and articles?
Yeah, not gonna' happen... ;)
Should also point out the Alien skull in '
Predator 2'.
AVP, as a
concept, isn't anything particularly wrong. It just hasn't been portrayed/executed right yet. If someone like Scott or Cameron had money thrown at them to do it, they'd probably make something terribly atmospheric most of us would applaud and the very first original comic was very much in the spirit of the '
Alien'-verse.
Downplaying one side of the equation, just because of two mediocre films? Meh... '
Alien 3' and '
Alien Resurrection' weren't exactly classic masterpieces, either.
If you don't care for the Predator stuff, then just stick to the Alien-related sections. Best of both worlds! No pun intended. :)
Quote from: ThisBethesdaSea on Dec 01, 2011, 10:49:22 PM
Anyone else notice the runes or hieroglyphs in the human face?
The character depicted in the Giger hieroglyph looks suspiciously like a Space Jockey to me.....and didn't Lindelof just tweet that image saying that it would be important in Prometheus? If you think about it, while looking at Gigers image.....it shows a man or something in a pyramid being impregnated by something from an egg..,.at this point that something doesn't have to automatically be a Xeno as we know them...it could be anything, and the modus aperandi is egg-facehugger-unknown creature.
The hieroglyphics originally had humanoid astronauts but then Giger did change the face of the astronauts to make them like the Space Jockey's race once it was to be placed aboard the derelict
Quote from: Xenomorphine on Dec 03, 2011, 01:56:58 PM
So, you want us to not only rename the site and get a completely different URL, but purge the entire site of all 'Predator' and AVP material in general - including exclusive interviews and articles?
Yeah, not gonna' happen... ;)
You can do what you like I'm just surprised there isn't an A L I E N forum that isn't lumbered with Predator.
Quote from: Xenomorphine on Dec 03, 2011, 01:56:58 PMShould also point out the Alien skull in 'Predator 2'.
Should I point out the chestburster in a Jar in Mindwarp, or the chestburster in Spaceballs?
Quote from: Xenomorphine on Dec 03, 2011, 01:56:58 PMAVP, as a concept, isn't anything particularly wrong. It just hasn't been portrayed/executed right yet. If someone like Scott or Cameron had money thrown at them to do it, they'd probably make something terribly atmospheric most of us would applaud and the very first original comic was very much in the spirit of the 'Alien'-verse.
No idea, but Ridley wouldn't tie his classic to Predator.
Quote from: Xenomorphine on Dec 03, 2011, 01:56:58 PMDownplaying one side of the equation, just because of two mediocre films? Meh... 'Alien 3' and 'Alien Resurrection' weren't exactly classic masterpieces, either.
You can add Aliens to that list, for the moment I'll accept Alien 3 as the best of a bad bunch. Prometheus is the best hope after a 32 year wait.
Quote from: Xenomorphine on Dec 03, 2011, 01:56:58 PMIf you don't care for the Predator stuff, then just stick to the Alien-related sections. Best of both worlds! No pun intended. :)
I do.
Quote from: Gash on Dec 03, 2011, 02:46:34 PM
You can do what you like I'm just surprised there isn't an A L I E N forum that isn't lumbered with Predator.
There are Alien specific boards, in case you hadn't noticed, cleverly hidden under the title "ALIEN Films." There are also plenty of people on the site that prefer one or the other. Everyone here doesn't come around strictly for the oh-so-awesome AvP franchise. [/sarcasm]
Quote from: Gash on Dec 03, 2011, 02:46:34 PM
You can add Aliens to that list, for the moment I'll accept Alien 3 as the best of a bad bunch. Prometheus is the best hope after a 32 year wait.
All following comments from you will now be taken with the biggest grain of salt I can possibly imagine.
And I can imagine
quite a big one.
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Likewise.
ALIEN 3 is brilliant with some major missteps. I'm a HUGE 3 fan. It's probably Sigourney's best performance of Ripley by the way. I love how desloate and hopeless it is. BUT......What ruins all of that for me is the actual execution of the creature effects which bring me out of the story right away....yeah yeah Clemens was killed way too soon and there's some poor editing, but by in large, it's entirely underrated.
Quote from: Xenomorphine on Dec 03, 2011, 01:56:58 PM
So, you want us to not only rename the site and get a completely different URL, but purge the entire site of all 'Predator' and AVP material in general - including exclusive interviews and articles?
Yeah, not gonna' happen... ;)
Should also point out the Alien skull in 'Predator 2'.
If you don't care for the Predator stuff, then just stick to the Alien-related sections. Best of both worlds! No pun intended. :)
You point to the Alien skull in Predator 2 but when has a proper Alien film made a reference to Predator? The answer is never.
It pisses me off to no end that because some franchise that I have no interest in made a reference to a franchise that I adore; I'm now expected to accept that they're one and the same. They're not and I don't.
Frankly, anyone who thinks that Predator is canonical to Alien is kidding themselves. Let's take a look at the atmosphere of the original entry in both series...
Alien - Serious and highly believable with dialogue that could almost come from the mouth of a real person.
Predator - Arnie throws a knife at a guy, pinning him to a wall and quips "stick around".
...How do those two elments gel? THEY DON'T.
Predator fanboys = the bane of my life.
Anyone who accepts the two series as being one whole are primarily (or certainly strong) fans of Predator. Absolutely no people who are primarily fans of Alien support this idea and that's what annoys me; it's us Alien fans who get the short straw.
I know that my post is going to piss off a few people (and I dare say please a few more) and that's fine. You keep your favoured franchise and I'll keep mine, let's just not confuse them as being one and the same.
I'm certainly not asking for this site to ignore the Predator or AVP films, I just want certain people to actually recognise that each series is kept in its own section within the forum. I come here to talk about the Alien series, so it's incredibly irritating whenever the Predator uses his cloak and stealthily sneaks his way into this section of the forum.
I've managed to avoid discussing this issue ever since being a member but I guess that having a hangover today finally pushed me over the edge.
Rant over.
Quote from: RagingDragon on Dec 03, 2011, 03:00:18 PM
Quote from: Gash on Dec 03, 2011, 02:46:34 PM
You can do what you like I'm just surprised there isn't an A L I E N forum that isn't lumbered with Predator.
There are Alien specific boards, in case you hadn't noticed, cleverly hidden under the title "ALIEN Films." There are also plenty of people on the site that prefer one or the other. Everyone here doesn't come around strictly for the oh-so-awesome AvP franchise. [/sarcasm]
Quote from: Gash on Dec 03, 2011, 02:46:34 PM
You can add Aliens to that list, for the moment I'll accept Alien 3 as the best of a bad bunch. Prometheus is the best hope after a 32 year wait.
All following comments from you will now be taken with the biggest grain of salt I can possibly imagine.
And I can imagine quite a big one.
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Exactly. I love both species but we don't have seperate boards just for shits and giggles.
There needs to be a SERIOUS Prometheus/Alien site started up, just encapsulating the ALIEN saga itself, no mention or reference to Predators.
I actually enjoy the Predator films, but like so many, the marriage of the two is vomit-inducing mediocrity. But, here I am on the AvP Galaxy forum...because there's no other place to be right now. I'm waiting patiently however for a site as serious as this, devoted to the Alien Universe (with cool as shit design) to be born as we await the release of Prometheus.
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Quote from: Xenomorphine on Dec 03, 2011, 01:56:58 PM
So, you want us to not only rename the site and get a completely different URL, but purge the entire site of all 'Predator' and AVP material in general - including exclusive interviews and articles?
Yeah, not gonna' happen... ;)
Should also point out the Alien skull in 'Predator 2'.
If you don't care for the Predator stuff, then just stick to the Alien-related sections. Best of both worlds! No pun intended. :)
You point to the Alien skull in Predator 2 but when has a proper Alien film made a reference to Predator? The answer is never.
It pisses me off to no end that because some franchise that I have no interest in made a reference to a franchise that I adore; I'm now expected to accept that they're one and the same. They're not and I don't.
Frankly, anyone who thinks that Predator is canonical to Alien is kidding themselves. Let's take a look at the atmosphere of the original entry in both series...
Alien - Serious and highly believable with dialogue that could almost come from the mouth of a real person.
Predator - Arnie throws a knife at a guy, pinning him to a wall and quips "stick around".
...How do those two elments gel? THEY DON'T.
Predator fanboys = the bane of my life.
Anyone who accepts the two series as being one whole are primarily (or certainly strong) fans of Predator. Absolutely no people who are primarily fans of Alien support this idea and that's what annoys me; it's us Alien fans who get the short straw.
I know that my post is going to piss off a few people (and I dare say please a few more) and that's fine. You keep your favoured franchise and I'll keep mine, let's just not confuse them as being one and the same.
I'm certainly not asking for this site to ignore the Predator or AVP films, I just want certain people to actually recognise that each series is kept in its own section within the forum. I come here to talk about the Alien series, so it's incredibly irritating whenever the Predator uses his cloak and stealthily sneaks his way into this section of the forum.
I've managed to avoid discussing this issue ever since being a member but I guess that having a hangover today finally pushed me over the edge.
Rant over.
I agree with you that it would be totally idiotic to have references to Predator in Prometheus. Only someone as tasteless as Paul WS Anderson would even think of doing that and I'm pretty certain Ridley wont stoop to that level of silliness.
Personally I'm one of the Predator fanboys that you say are the 'bane of your life'
I love Alien, yet I'm also a huge fan of Predator (the 1st instalment)
Alien is far more of a cerebral, 'arty', 'intelligent', innovative, thoughtful, multi layered movie and has 'masterpiece' written all over it. Massively influential and one of those genre defining pieces that are given the epithet 'important'. The stuff that Film degree dissertations are made of.
On the other side of the coin, Predator is an all out testosterone fest of explosive comic book violence and generic square jawed steroidal heroes
I appreciate both movies for what they are and am completely aware of how different they are yet both are well and truly in the top 5 of my all time favourite films list.
Like you I hope there is absolutely not even the vaguest or obscurest of references or 'nods' to Predator in Prometheus
Hell...I dont even think therell be any 'Giger' Aliens in Prometheus either, and I'm perfectly happy with that likelihood
From Ridleys public comments on AVP I dont think anything of the sort will happen, and I'm extremely happy for that
To all those hoping to see Predators in Prometheus, why stop there ?
Why not make it a Batman vs Predator vs The Joker vs Aliens vs Darth Maul vs Alf vs Robocop movie...........how 'cool' would that be ?!!!..............NOT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
If you see the word Predator in an Aliens only forum, close your eyes.
Actually, any topic about Predators in an Aliens forum would be moved to the correct forum. If you have to talk about both of them at the same time, you have the AvP forums and the general discussion forums.
I'm sure Prometheus will birth a new and separate franchise. I would accept the Prometheus franchise to be a part of the Alien franchise. I, personally, think that the Alien universe is bigger than the Predator universe. Events of both movie franchises have happened in the Alien universe, according to me.
Quote from: St_Eddie on Dec 03, 2011, 03:42:38 PMI know that my post is going to piss off a few people (and I dare say please a few more) and that's fine.
Pleased! ;)
Alien is Mozart. Predator is, I dunno, Motley Crue.
Also, rasslin' isn't real. :D
Please stop. This thread is turning into an Aliens vs Predator brawl.
Let's stick to the topic at hand. Alien versus Predator is all over the site already ;)
Quote from: Valaquen on Dec 03, 2011, 06:05:55 PM
Let's stick to the topic at hand. Alien versus Predator is all over the site already ;)
To return to the topic's subject we need new pack of the brand new official pictures ;D
Continue posting the prior images with things in the images encircled in Microsoft Paint :P "Look, a thing! It's definitely a thing!"
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi40.tinypic.com%2F302t98x.jpg&hash=7128ceb6b5115e6c4c8f91ecfa5e2d972d9dee9d)
;D
Lol, there's defo a serious case of Prometheus cabin fever on these boards now, we need trailer now dammit!
Hello, long time Prometheus lurker and first poster here.
I finally gave in and joined.
Regarding the cabin fever...
Someone earlier found some evidence in the released stills that
Squidward Tentacles might be tied to Prometheus.
And I think I just found further clues...
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi162.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Ft253%2FLarsVader%2FPrometheus_Squarepants_02.jpg&hash=d579cbfbb14897e5245ebf8a10f2961f39986a6e)
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi162.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Ft253%2FLarsVader%2FPrometheus_Squarepants_01.jpg&hash=73c3a62e5eedbbd7195ff2f55d0a871bab94eca1)
Quote from: Black on Dec 03, 2011, 06:52:50 PM
Lol, there's defo a serious case of Prometheus cabin fever on these boards now
Tell me about it, I feel like a crack addict! I wish I could stop checking these forums multiple times a day but I just can't find the will power. Even the mighty Skyrim hasn't overtaken my Prometheus addiction. There's not a chance in hell that the finished film is going to live up to the self-imposed hyperbole I've created for it. :'(
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fmikuchan.org%2Fmiku%2Fsrc%2F129967424262.png&hash=91b5e6e191cae2d3d835aed35ed61c1f501118a9)
Quote from: LarsVader on Dec 03, 2011, 07:14:59 PM
Hello, long time Prometheus lurker and first poster here.
I finally gave in and joined.
Regarding the cabin fever...
Someone earlier found some evidence in the released stills that Squidward Tentacles might be tied to Prometheus.
And I think I just found further clues...
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi162.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Ft253%2FLarsVader%2FPrometheus_Squarepants_02.jpg&hash=d579cbfbb14897e5245ebf8a10f2961f39986a6e)
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi162.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Ft253%2FLarsVader%2FPrometheus_Squarepants_01.jpg&hash=73c3a62e5eedbbd7195ff2f55d0a871bab94eca1)
Brilliantly done. The head did remind me of Easter Island. We should just send all of these to the Prometheus Fanart thread!
Quote from: JKS1 on Dec 03, 2011, 04:35:50 PM
I agree with you that it would be totally idiotic to have references to Predator in Prometheus. Only someone as tasteless as Paul WS Anderson would even think of doing that and I'm pretty certain Ridley wont stoop to that level of silliness.
Personally I'm one of the Predator fanboys that you say are the 'bane of your life'
I love Alien, yet I'm also a huge fan of Predator (the 1st instalment)
Alien is far more of a cerebral, 'arty', 'intelligent', innovative, thoughtful, multi layered movie and has 'masterpiece' written all over it. Massively influential and one of those genre defining pieces that are given the epithet 'important'. The stuff that Film degree dissertations are made of.
On the other side of the coin, Predator is an all out testosterone fest of explosive comic book violence and generic square jawed steroidal heroes
I appreciate both movies for what they are and am completely aware of how different they are yet both are well and truly in the top 5 of my all time favourite films list.
Like you I hope there is absolutely not even the vaguest or obscurest of references or 'nods' to Predator in Prometheus
Hell...I dont even think therell be any 'Giger' Aliens in Prometheus either, and I'm perfectly happy with that likelihood
From Ridleys public comments on AVP I dont think anything of the sort will happen, and I'm extremely happy for that
To all those hoping to see Predators in Prometheus, why stop there ?
Why not make it a Batman vs Predator vs The Joker vs Aliens vs Darth Maul vs Alf vs Robocop movie...........how 'cool' would that be ?!!!..............NOT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Not to bring this up again, I just wanted to say that I like this post. :D
Prometheus is very obviously in the Alien universe, and was obviously in said universe since the very beginning. That settles all of the 'alien movie' questions for me, regardless of whether there is a single classic Xenomorph in the film at all. It's like having a film with Skynet, Cyberdyne Systems, and Sarah Connor called "Final Awareness," without any T-800's in it. Would that be a Termintor film? Very much so, despite it not having a traditional Terminator model.
Don't know if that was entirely relevent... but I said it!
Sorry I just have to comment on the irony of it all.
Rabid Alien fans frothing at the mouth dismissing Predator with one sentance , then right underneath the "Prometheus won't be Alien" thread.
Brilliant.
If Prometheus gives birth to a new movie monster set in the alien universe maybe it'll have it's own board section on this website, which would be awesome.
Then in about 10 years we'll have the movie Alien verses Predator verses [insert new creature name]
8)
Quote from: Highland on Dec 03, 2011, 08:07:24 PM
Sorry I just have to comment on the irony of it all.
Rabid Alien fans frothing at the mouth dismissing Predator with one sentance , then right underneath the "Prometheus won't be Alien" thread.
Brilliant.
Um, I'm not sure what you mean by this. The title of this thread is referring to the fact that Prometheus isn't going to follow the same structure as Alien, whilst still being set in the same universe. What's any of this got to do with Predator?!
Quote from: Alien³ on Dec 03, 2011, 08:22:52 PM
If Prometheus gives birth to a new movie monster set in the alien universe maybe it'll have it's own board section on this website. Then in about 10 years we'll have Alien verses Predator verses [insert new creature name]
Space Jockalien ?
Space Predockey ?
A 15 foot tall Prejockalien ?
Quote from: Black on Dec 03, 2011, 06:52:50 PMLol, there's defo a serious case of Prometheus cabin fever on these boards now, we need trailer now dammit!
Roger Roger. Unfortunately I doubt that the first official trailer will be as comprehensive as the leaked one we have seen. We will get a mysterious teaser, which will be exciting, but a bit of a let down as far as providing any new information. It has been mentioned before on this thread, but it's as if the leaked trailer was made especially for fans of Alien (and deliberately leaked IMO). It just seems too much of a nod to the original film, especially after all the "Prometheus isn't Alien" hyperbole.
It will be interesting to see if the official stuff has the same motives (music, titles etc.). I would be surprised if it did, but certainly not disappointed by the fact.
-Chris.
EDIT: Just re-read that the SDCC footage used the same title sequence, so...
Quote from: Alien³ on Dec 03, 2011, 08:22:52 PM
If Prometheus gives birth to a new movie monster set in the alien universe maybe it'll have it's own board section on this website, which would be awesome.
Then in about 10 years we'll have the movie Alien verses Predator verses [insert new creature name]
8)
It would be more likely Jockey vs Predator according to this scene
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi40.tinypic.com%2F5xvcl2.jpg&hash=ca8995b40b2f99d273779a42f7951f71e3ec4c21)
Quote from: psychonaut25 on Dec 03, 2011, 09:51:45 PM
Quote from: Alien³ on Dec 03, 2011, 08:22:52 PM
If Prometheus gives birth to a new movie monster set in the alien universe maybe it'll have it's own board section on this website, which would be awesome.
Then in about 10 years we'll have the movie Alien verses Predator verses [insert new creature name]
8)
It would be more likely Jockey vs Predator according to this scene
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi40.tinypic.com%2F5xvcl2.jpg&hash=ca8995b40b2f99d273779a42f7951f71e3ec4c21)
Yeah, but AVP:R never happened...
Quote from: psychonaut25 on Dec 03, 2011, 09:51:45 PM
Quote from: Alien³ on Dec 03, 2011, 08:22:52 PM
If Prometheus gives birth to a new movie monster set in the alien universe maybe it'll have it's own board section on this website, which would be awesome.
Then in about 10 years we'll have the movie Alien verses Predator verses [insert new creature name]
8)
It would be more likely Jockey vs Predator according to this scene
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi40.tinypic.com%2F5xvcl2.jpg&hash=ca8995b40b2f99d273779a42f7951f71e3ec4c21)
Urgh, AVP:R! I "love" how that skull doesn't even resemble what we saw in Alien; the eye sockets are in the wrong place and what are those bones to the side of it's face?. Also, notice how the shot has obviously had the contrast wacked up through necessity.
This is the special edition with higher contrast...one of many things, that were missing in the normal version ;D
I don't think they wanted an original SJ head in it. They just wanted something, that looks cool...at least they tried ;D
By the way guys, I graded those images on the last page according to a user's report on the Comic Con footage.
So this is what you can really expect to see in the final cut:
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg406.imageshack.us%2Fimg406%2F604%2Fprometheusbridgegraded1.jpg&hash=5f35e6959e04775ebc1d99fff114daaf0fc01678)
Just reassuring everyone just in case they want to complain about these images being too bright.
Wasn't the right guy white before the grading :laugh:?
Quote from: LarsVader on Dec 03, 2011, 07:14:59 PM
Hello, long time Prometheus lurker and first poster here.
I finally gave in and joined.
Regarding the cabin fever...
Someone earlier found some evidence in the released stills that Squidward Tentacles might be tied to Prometheus.
And I think I just found further clues...
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi162.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Ft253%2FLarsVader%2FPrometheus_Squarepants_02.jpg&hash=d579cbfbb14897e5245ebf8a10f2961f39986a6e)
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi162.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Ft253%2FLarsVader%2FPrometheus_Squarepants_01.jpg&hash=73c3a62e5eedbbd7195ff2f55d0a871bab94eca1)
LOL! This made my day! Thanks for this! :laugh:
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ftinypineapple.com%2Fa%2Fgallery%2Fspongebobs-house.jpg&hash=27d33cb4a87abb76a5a631a62b70c9b52734f5b1)
someone photoshop the pinapple house in please,
''Looks at Panda''
Quote from: Biomechanoid20 on Dec 04, 2011, 04:31:05 AM
Hello, long time Prometheus lurker and first poster here.
I finally gave in and joined.
Regarding the cabin fever...
Someone earlier found some evidence in the released stills that Squidward Tentacles might be tied to Prometheus.
And I think I just found further clues...
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi162.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Ft253%2FLarsVader%2FPrometheus_Squarepants_02.jpg&hash=d579cbfbb14897e5245ebf8a10f2961f39986a6e)
Thats amazing
Nah, pineapple sux...got nothing to do with a head :laugh:
But the other version is excellent work!
Quote from: Gash on Dec 03, 2011, 02:46:34 PM
You can do what you like I'm just surprised there isn't an A L I E N forum that isn't lumbered with Predator.
There is - you're posting in it. ;)
QuoteShould I point out the chestburster in a Jar in Mindwarp, or the chestburster in Spaceballs?
There's a difference between something presented in a serious manner and a parody. I've a Stan Winston interview where he in no way claims it to be for humour and the atmosphere/tone of the scene (one of the few decent ones in the film, IMO) is completely serious. Not exactly a quick cut away, either, but somehting the camera focuses and lingers upon. That's why, even if you prefer not to think the two series are
literally a part of one another, it's perfectly valid to mention in passing.
QuoteNo idea, but Ridley wouldn't tie his classic to Predator.
Doesn't mean he couldn't make a decent effort if he wanted to. My earlier point was that, in terms of the
concept, there's nothing wrong with it. The films and games we've been
given? Different matter. :)
Quote from: St_Eddie on Dec 03, 2011, 03:42:38 PM
You point to the Alien skull in Predator 2 but when has a proper Alien film made a reference to Predator? The answer is never.
That wasn't my point. See above. There are instances of silliness in
both franchises.
QuoteAlien - Serious and highly believable with dialogue that could almost come from the mouth of a real person.
Predator - Arnie throws a knife at a guy, pinning him to a wall and quips "stick around".
...How do those two elments gel? THEY DON'T.
Right in with the likes of someone shooting a tiny spider away with WITH A GUN in '
Alien Resurrection'. ;) That film was full to the brim with poor attempts at macho humour.
QuoteI'm certainly not asking for this site to ignore the Predator or AVP films, I just want certain people to actually recognise that each series is kept in its own section within the forum. I come here to talk about the Alien series, so it's incredibly irritating whenever the Predator uses his cloak and stealthily sneaks his way into this section of the forum.
Which is lovely, but asking us to downplay one fandom against the other isn't going to happen. :) We
already have separate
and combined forum sub-sections. Short of changing our name and URL or, like,
banning any mention of one series from the other's forum (good luck with working out how to enforce that!), there's really nothing more which is practical to do.
If you've got any suggestions, though, put them in the relevant sub-section or message Darkness, directly. We'll be happy to look at them.
@Xenomorphine
I don't think you comprehended what I was saying. For instance, when did I imply or request that this site should downplay Predator?! Also, pointing to Resurrection to show how goofy the Alien films are(n't) is a bit of a cheap tactic, at least my examples came from the original entries in both series.
Besides, Alien: Resurrection does not exist in this dojo. 8)
Quote from: JaaayDee on Dec 04, 2011, 12:45:13 AM
By the way guys, I graded those images on the last page according to a user's report on the Comic Con footage.
So this is what you can really expect to see in the final cut:
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg406.imageshack.us%2Fimg406%2F604%2Fprometheusbridgegraded1.jpg&hash=5f35e6959e04775ebc1d99fff114daaf0fc01678)
Just reassuring everyone just in case they want to complain about these images being too bright.
Teal pushing :)
Hell no, now THIS is teal pushing:
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi42.tinypic.com%2Ft6uybp.jpg&hash=da2a8672571bd9febc0224aeb46e432daefcce12)
Keep in mind that was before I color corrected the image.
Quote from: JaaayDee on Dec 04, 2011, 06:15:23 AM
Hell no, now THIS is teal pushing:
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Keep in mind that was before I color corrected the image.
needs more orange :)
needs more brown and bloom
Quote from: Pn2501 on Dec 04, 2011, 06:16:50 AM
Quote from: JaaayDee on Dec 04, 2011, 06:15:23 AM
Hell no, now THIS is teal pushing:
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi42.tinypic.com%2Ft6uybp.jpg&hash=da2a8672571bd9febc0224aeb46e432daefcce12)
Keep in mind that was before I color corrected the image.
needs more orange :)
Oh you! :laugh:
Remember kids; teal and orange equals vomit.
I kinda' prefer the original colour settings.
The only films which have ever seemed to get the artificial darkness thing right are the 'Underworld' series. They do it in order to highlight edges and details. The original had each and every single frame of footage run through Photoshop.
Just look at 'Requiem'. It wasn't the best film in the world, but the originally lit footage at least had an nice look. I recall most of us being impressed with the landscape as the camera pushed out. Then we ended up with something where everything either had a dulled aesthetic or you couldn't make out what was going on.
Quote from: zuzuki on Dec 02, 2011, 01:02:47 AM
from ALIENPREQUELNEWS.COM
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seems the head theory is legit,although they seem to be looking with the flash lights inside the thing,or maybe it's just the light from the flashlights shining on the surface of the head.also if that really is a body in the right,then if you look at the chest,the ridge in the middle looks a bit like the ridge on the chest of the dead spacejockey in alien.
I'm thinking it's a statue of some kind.
...my initial thought, as well. :o
Quote from: The Xenoborg on Dec 03, 2011, 06:35:45 PM
http://i40.tinypic.com/302t98x.jpg
;D
Hmmm, I dunno, I don't think the head's big enough. But it might be the angle.
It's a Gigeresque version of Michelangelo's 'David'...which ties in with Fassbender's charactor.
Quote from: PVTDukeMorrison on Dec 03, 2011, 10:25:03 PM
Quote from: psychonaut25 on Dec 03, 2011, 09:51:45 PM
Quote from: Alien³ on Dec 03, 2011, 08:22:52 PM
If Prometheus gives birth to a new movie monster set in the alien universe maybe it'll have it's own board section on this website, which would be awesome.
Then in about 10 years we'll have the movie Alien verses Predator verses [insert new creature name]
8)
It would be more likely Jockey vs Predator according to this scene
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi40.tinypic.com%2F5xvcl2.jpg&hash=ca8995b40b2f99d273779a42f7951f71e3ec4c21)
Yeah, but AVP:R never happened...
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs3.amazonaws.com%2Fkym-assets%2Fentries%2Ficons%2Foriginal%2F000%2F005%2F365%2Fawwyea.jpg%3F1308975495&hash=e571348e77ef48ac1aeada6dd31e2afe0e0a2c2a)
Quote from: St_Eddie on Dec 03, 2011, 08:33:07 PM
Quote from: Highland on Dec 03, 2011, 08:07:24 PM
Sorry I just have to comment on the irony of it all.
Rabid Alien fans frothing at the mouth dismissing Predator with one sentance , then right underneath the "Prometheus won't be Alien" thread.
Brilliant.
Um, I'm not sure what you mean by this. The title of this thread is referring to the fact that Prometheus isn't going to follow the same structure as Alien, whilst still being set in the same universe. What's any of this got to do with Predator?!
Because if Prometheus turns out to be a steaming pile of shizen and totally changes everything Alien fans ever debated over the past 30 years, you'll all be the first to punt it into a separate stand alone franchise, claiming "that's not how it happened" or it's "loosely based"
If one thing's certain about this site, it's that a lot of fans choose their own canon, even when it's officially so.
They might not be correct, but people can dream up what they like, it's part of this whole website. I for one don't mesh any together, I respect or disrespect each franchise separately. .
Quote from: Never say no to Panda! on Dec 04, 2011, 12:59:28 AM
Wasn't the right guy white before the grading :laugh:?
;D
...if the left girl was albino :) (I'm joking)
JaaayDee , nice work with adjusting pictures colors!
Quote from: Highland on Dec 04, 2011, 03:34:28 PM
Quote from: St_Eddie on Dec 03, 2011, 08:33:07 PM
Quote from: Highland on Dec 03, 2011, 08:07:24 PM
Sorry I just have to comment on the irony of it all.
Rabid Alien fans frothing at the mouth dismissing Predator with one sentance , then right underneath the "Prometheus won't be Alien" thread.
Brilliant.
Um, I'm not sure what you mean by this. The title of this thread is referring to the fact that Prometheus isn't going to follow the same structure as Alien, whilst still being set in the same universe. What's any of this got to do with Predator?!
Because if Prometheus turns out to be a steaming pile of shizen and totally changes everything Alien fans ever debated over the past 30 years, you'll all be the first to punt it into a separate stand alone franchise, claiming "that's not how it happened" or it's "loosely based"
If one thing's certain about this site, it's that a lot of fans choose their own canon, even when it's officially so.
They might not be correct, but people can dream up what they like, it's part of this whole website. I for one don't mesh any together, I respect or disrespect each franchise separately. .
I just want it to be as jaw droppingly amazing as Blade Runner
:P :P :P :laugh:
Quote from: JKS1 on Dec 04, 2011, 06:59:48 PM
I just want it to be as jaw droppingly amazing as Blade Runner
:P :P :P :laugh:
I'll pay that. ;)
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi41.tinypic.com%2F11w4xur.jpg&hash=35eef762ed057ff6191d1172657485f57d84536f)
Ive adjusted the light level or whatever its called in English.
You can see things more clearly impressive found of you guys.
so the decapitated Space jockey.
Quote from: Infected on Dec 04, 2011, 08:44:56 PM
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi41.tinypic.com%2F11w4xur.jpg&hash=35eef762ed057ff6191d1172657485f57d84536f)
Ive adjusted the light level or whatever its called in English.
You can see things more clearly impressive found of you guys.
so the decapitated Space jockey.
Seems strange that theyd release a picture showing this ?
There's probably a lot more to Prometheus than they're showing us here.
Quote from: JKS1 on Dec 04, 2011, 10:51:34 PM
Quote from: Infected on Dec 04, 2011, 08:44:56 PM
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi41.tinypic.com%2F11w4xur.jpg&hash=35eef762ed057ff6191d1172657485f57d84536f)
Ive adjusted the light level or whatever its called in English.
You can see things more clearly impressive found of you guys.
so the decapitated Space jockey.
Seems strange that theyd release a picture showing this ?
these pictures, and this one in particular will have been chosen very very carefully to get us excited and talking.
thanks
rich
It's not dead...was a hard weekend. Hangover in space.
Quote from: Never say no to Panda! on Dec 04, 2011, 11:25:21 PM
It's not dead...was a hard weekend. Hangover in space.
Yeah, and the stuff, where both women are looking in, is seemingly some sort of space receptacle for alcohol ;D
Poor crew just happened to stop by at the wrong time when the space jockeys were hung over, they took their anger on the humans, and then the aliens were created. :(
I will say, I don't like the legs of that creature....I dunno, a bit too, umm, well, I can't put a name on it, something just rings 'poor design' or space suit. Hopefully it's the latter.
[englishaccent]"He's not dead, he's just resting!"[/englishaccent]
Quote from: Gash on Dec 04, 2011, 11:10:36 AM
Quote from: The Xenoborg on Dec 03, 2011, 06:35:45 PM
http://i40.tinypic.com/302t98x.jpg
;D
Hmmm, I dunno, I don't think the head's big enough. But it might be the angle.
:_)
By the way, I don´t know if anybody brought this up yet.
What is this shiny little thing that looks like something stabbed on the "whatever the hell this creature is" ?
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi40.tinypic.com%2F25u5qu0.jpg&hash=d550c7074de9813d0fdb690b80945f7d86083017)
PD: Yess guys, you guessed it, I work as a graphic designer.
I'm starting to go along with the statue idea, too. It looks like it's had an arm chipped off in the same manner you'd expect if it was.
Seems to me the most logical explanation is that it's an empty SJ suit...
Quote from: Xenomorphine on Dec 05, 2011, 09:54:46 AM
I'm starting to go along with the statue idea, too. It looks like it's had an arm chipped off in the same manner you'd expect if it was.
I thought that, but you'd have to ask why have a statue laid on the ground, in what looks to be a symmetrical room. Also this room can be seen from another angle, there are no statue's anywhere else.
Unless it's a statue that's been pushed over.
Twisted hips, awkward arching back. Reminds me of bodies from Pompeii. I'm thinking that this thing died violently.
-Chris.
Quote from: Highland on Dec 05, 2011, 10:42:55 AM
I thought that, but you'd have to ask why have a statue laid on the ground, in what looks to be a symmetrical room. Also this room can be seen from another angle, there are no statue's anywhere else.
Unless it's a statue that's been pushed over.
I'm thinking precisely that. Damaged. Possibly even due to the exploration, itself. Assuming what I think is the 'chopped' portion of the arm
is precisely that, it's a lot more like a statue. If you cut off an actual creature's limb, the resulting open wound wouldn't stay as open and flat as that.
If anything, the style is possibly influenced by that scene in the TV movie adaptation of '
The Tommyknockers', before all the creatures reawaken.
Man o man, I sure do hope this movie will be as good as I hope it will be.
Exactly...examine the teasers/trailers from the first and second films...these are the scenes we're 'allowed' to see; and I'm pretty sure are a DELIBERATE attempt to connect it to the franchise.
We're through the looking-glass here, people. This flick is going to fly off on a tangent none of us realised (I hope...). :o
The Scope on the size of that head in the backround is massive on these pics and body on the floor is just epic, makes me wonder how big the jockeys will be and how they will behave towards the humans and synthetics.
Quote from: Xenomorphine on Dec 05, 2011, 09:09:42 PM
If anything, the style is possibly influenced by that scene in the TV movie adaptation of 'The Tommyknockers',
Lololol Yeah it's probably one of Ridleys Favorite tv adaptations
And Fassbenders totally going to reference Jimmy Smits.
:)
http://theoatmeal.com/blog/3d_movies (http://theoatmeal.com/blog/3d_movies)
:_)
Looks like the full plot-point synopsis on aintitcool was correct, which means I've spolied the entire film for myself.. :-\
It sounds fantastic though...and gives some real gravitas behind the origins of the Alien we know and love.
Space Jockeys sound super-scary in some of the scenes....if it's pulled off, Prometheus should be fairly unnerving.
Quote from: jimmylace on Dec 06, 2011, 10:39:34 AM
Looks like the full plot-point synopsis on aintitcool was correct
Based on what exactly?
I can confirm the initial discovery happens in 2058 and then moves ahead in time. Don't know what happens for sure, like if the plots that had that date are 100% correct or not. From going over them I can almost guarantee people have pieces of the puzzle and are trying to fill in the rest like I am. I didn't try to write a full synopsis though because it seems obvious not one of the leaks has the full story.
I can confirm a couple more things too. Only a couple, so I have no real clue about the whole plot. But we already knew Weyland was involved from the logo. It just doesn't seem like there's been one with that date that screams completely true yet. At least by the time you make it to the end. Some of them start ok, and are similar, but most likely no one has the ending right. Some are just way too short for a three hour movie, even if they've left parts out.
Quote from: RICH-ENGLAND on Dec 04, 2011, 11:10:19 PM
Quote from: JKS1 on Dec 04, 2011, 10:51:34 PM
Quote from: Infected on Dec 04, 2011, 08:44:56 PM
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Ive adjusted the light level or whatever its called in English.
You can see things more clearly impressive found of you guys.
so the decapitated Space jockey.
Seems strange that theyd release a picture showing this ?
these pictures, and this one in particular will have been chosen very very carefully to get us excited and talking.
thanks
rich
Yes,
makes me wonder what decapitates a jockey? i think we will see new terror beings in Prometheus.
Quote from: Infected on Dec 07, 2011, 07:09:26 PM
Quote from: RICH-ENGLAND on Dec 04, 2011, 11:10:19 PM
Quote from: JKS1 on Dec 04, 2011, 10:51:34 PM
Quote from: Infected on Dec 04, 2011, 08:44:56 PM
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi41.tinypic.com%2F11w4xur.jpg&hash=35eef762ed057ff6191d1172657485f57d84536f)
Ive adjusted the light level or whatever its called in English.
You can see things more clearly impressive found of you guys.
so the decapitated Space jockey.
Seems strange that theyd release a picture showing this ?
these pictures, and this one in particular will have been chosen very very carefully to get us excited and talking.
thanks
rich
Yes,
makes me wonder what decapitates a jockey? i think we will see new terror beings in Prometheus.
With all this talk of Gods, I wonder if the giant head acts as the Holy Grail and the Space Jockey got decapitated by a big buzz saw for failing to "kneel before God"...
... Nah. :D
Ahahahahahahhahah good one!
Quote from: St_Eddie on Dec 07, 2011, 07:45:49 PM
Quote from: Infected on Dec 07, 2011, 07:09:26 PM
Quote from: RICH-ENGLAND on Dec 04, 2011, 11:10:19 PM
Quote from: JKS1 on Dec 04, 2011, 10:51:34 PM
Quote from: Infected on Dec 04, 2011, 08:44:56 PM
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi41.tinypic.com%2F11w4xur.jpg&hash=35eef762ed057ff6191d1172657485f57d84536f)
Ive adjusted the light level or whatever its called in English.
You can see things more clearly impressive found of you guys.
so the decapitated Space jockey.
Seems strange that theyd release a picture showing this ?
these pictures, and this one in particular will have been chosen very very carefully to get us excited and talking.
thanks
rich
Yes,
makes me wonder what decapitates a jockey? i think we will see new terror beings in Prometheus.
With all this talk of Gods, I wonder if the giant head acts as the Holy Grail and the Space Jockey got decapitated by a big buzz saw for failing to "kneel before God"...
... Nah. :D
No the jockey was laying on his side. ;)
Quote from: Eldritch on Dec 06, 2011, 11:21:47 AM
Quote from: jimmylace on Dec 06, 2011, 10:39:34 AM
Looks like the full plot-point synopsis on aintitcool was correct
Based on what exactly?
It mentions the humans coming face-to-face with a giant human-looking..erm...face, inside the "engineers" mothership.
A bit too coincidental. Plus, the plot breakdown you can find the link to on aintitcool, does sounds brilliant.
Quote from: jimmylace on Dec 10, 2011, 03:41:57 PM
It mentions the humans coming face-to-face with a giant human-looking..erm...face, inside the "engineers" mothership.
A bit too coincidental. Plus, the plot breakdown you can find the link to on aintitcool, does sounds brilliant.
That info has been around long, long before the AICN thing. Does anybody here actually frequent AICN talkbacks? They're troll fests. How anyone can take it seriously really stumps me.
Quote from: jimmylace on Dec 10, 2011, 03:41:57 PM
Quote from: Eldritch on Dec 06, 2011, 11:21:47 AM
Quote from: jimmylace on Dec 06, 2011, 10:39:34 AM
Looks like the full plot-point synopsis on aintitcool was correct
Based on what exactly?
It mentions the humans coming face-to-face with a giant human-looking..erm...face, inside the "engineers" mothership.
A bit too coincidental. Plus, the plot breakdown you can find the link to on aintitcool, does sounds brilliant.
Apprarently, the synopsis is fake, created by a poster on imdb in August, but it pre-dates these pictures, and contains this:
The crew sets about attempting to repair the Prometheus, while Elizabeth Shaw leads a recon expedition to investigate nearby structures, which turn out to be a cavernous Engineer temple. Inside the temple, Shaw's team encounters a bizarre BIO-BRAIN, a biomechanical humanoid face set within a towering pillar, as well as thousands of seemingly primitive URNS. David takes several of the urns back to the vessel for analysis.
Quote from: Valaquen on Dec 10, 2011, 03:45:06 PM
Quote from: jimmylace on Dec 10, 2011, 03:41:57 PM
It mentions the humans coming face-to-face with a giant human-looking..erm...face, inside the "engineers" mothership.
A bit too coincidental. Plus, the plot breakdown you can find the link to on aintitcool, does sounds brilliant.
That info has been around long, long before the AICN thing. Does anybody here actually frequent AICN talkbacks? They're troll fests. How anyone can take it seriously really stumps me.
Ahh..that I didn't know! Either way i'm pretty excited by this but hope the real thing isn't too far off from that synopsis!
Quote from: jimmylace on Dec 10, 2011, 03:46:24 PM
Ahh..that I didn't know! Either way i'm pretty excited by this but hope the real thing isn't too far off from that synopsis!
I think we'll be surprised circa June 8th 8)
Quote from: jimmylace on Dec 10, 2011, 03:46:24 PM
Apprarently, the synopsis is fake, created by a poster on imdb in August, but it pre-dates these pictures, and contains this:
The crew sets about attempting to repair the Prometheus, while Elizabeth Shaw leads a recon expedition to investigate nearby structures, which turn out to be a cavernous Engineer temple. Inside the temple, Shaw's team encounters a bizarre BIO-BRAIN, a biomechanical humanoid face set within a towering pillar, as well as thousands of seemingly primitive URNS. David takes several of the urns back to the vessel for analysis.
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fx4Nyc.gif&hash=8e24f630e4e9ff7f01731ebcccbdae49c1dccca8)
Quote from: Tough little S.O.B. on Dec 06, 2011, 10:10:12 AM
http://theoatmeal.com/blog/3d_movies (http://theoatmeal.com/blog/3d_movies)
:_)
love it !
hmm...
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Very Giger-ish
Yes, much more gigeresque details than on the "temple" interiors in my opinion.
More like the entrance passage of the derelict in ALIEN.
Maybe the upward tilted corridor indicates this, since we know that the (then not so derelict yet) derelict will be standing vertical at some point in Prometheus.
@ lars.
is that a new picture?.. from prometheus?
if so where did it originate from? link?
thanks
rich
Quote from: LarsVader on Dec 11, 2011, 12:11:41 AM
hmm...
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi162.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Ft253%2FLarsVader%2Fpromset.jpg&hash=ffc3647bfc17f7a8fcf52f84e21b472f3adbc44c)
Where has this one come from? :o
it looks like an old picture to me, maybe from the making af alien or aliens, all the guys hair looks very 70s/80s ish
thanks
rich
please tell me thats from prometheus
It's from Alien I'm pretty sure. Guys on IMDB pulled it a few days ago from some Michael Fassbender fan site.
Quote from: RICH-ENGLAND on Dec 11, 2011, 01:07:55 AM
it looks like an old picture to me, maybe from the making af alien or aliens, all the guys hair looks very 70s/80s ish
thanks
rich
They are forced to wear those haircuts to bring back the 80s Alien mojo :D
Quote from: tmjhur on Dec 11, 2011, 02:48:05 AM
It's from Alien I'm pretty sure. Guys on IMDB pulled it a few days ago from some Michael Fassbender fan site.
Does kind of look like it huh.
Looks like the gangway they walk through to get into the Derelict.
I know as much about this pic as you do. Just speculating here.
I am very unsure about the time of the happenings in this image, 1979 or 2011?
At first to me it looks almost exactly like the entry passage to the '79 derelict.
But wasn't that slightly tilted with an uneven floor and had no curve at its end?
And as much as I am informed the tunnel was improvised in '79 from salvaged jockey-room/silo-room parts
because they ran out of money,
this would mean that the white-ish plaster bones elements should already be painted and more attached to another at this point.
To me it looks like they have been cast brand new.
The giant black backdrop in the back reminds me a lot on the ones used on the Prometheus set, I think it looks neater than the ones used back in '79.
I see no flared pants and no silly hair.
The guy in the foreground has slightly longer hair which is still quite fashionable for todays standards.
And wearing a hooded shirt over a jacket looks more modern to me.
The ladder looks just like the one in other Prometheus pics (and thausends of other productions).
But what convinces me most is the overall image quality,
the contrast, the colours, the noise, even the lens flare scream cell phone picture to me.
I think a scanned old image/negative would have quite a different feel to it.
Besides I never even remotely saw a picture like this or even of the derelict tunnel set, have you?
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but where did you get it from lars?
might be worth putting it through a reverse image search site like tineye.com but i cant right now as im on my ps3 not pc and cant do it on this.
thanks
rich
Quote from: RICH-ENGLAND on Dec 11, 2011, 09:38:39 AM
but where did you get it from lars?
might be worth putting it through a reverse image search site like tineye.com but i cant right now as im on my ps3 not pc and cant do it on this.
thanks
rich
Yes... where is it from?
Ran it through a few sites just then... nada.
im still saying its from alien, two of the men on it look to have hair and moustaches like 70s porn stars!
thanks
rich
Quote from: RICH-ENGLAND on Dec 11, 2011, 09:38:39 AM
might be worth putting it through a reverse image search
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ff.666kb.com%2Fi%2Fbzf1j0wk10kbb3c2d.jpg&hash=1a8d170ec1d4f7ebb55c0e5a75e521d5a32feb23)
Those search engines suck cause it's on this site:
http://www.michaelfassbender.org/expressen.html (http://www.michaelfassbender.org/expressen.html)
There is a nice collection of those old Prometheus images, good quality:
http://www.michaelfassbender.org/btsprm.html (http://www.michaelfassbender.org/btsprm.html)
But IF this site is the only source then it could be new...or it was well hidden for a few years.
So Lindelof finally build a time machine to pick up some 70s porn moustache dudes!
greetings
Panda
Quote from: RICH-ENGLAND on Dec 11, 2011, 09:53:15 AM
im still saying its from alien, two of the men on it look to have hair and moustaches like 70s porn stars!
thanks
rich
Haha yeah, they do kinda look like they have 70s do's.
Quote from: Never say no to Panda! on Dec 11, 2011, 09:54:50 AM
Those search engines suck cause it's on this site:
http://www.michaelfassbender.org/expressen.html (http://www.michaelfassbender.org/expressen.html)
That's where I got it from.
I probably should bid excuse for reviving this thread after it's been dormant since the middle of December, but I know there once have been discussed bio/space suits, which Prometheus' crew is clad in, so when I lucked upon the next pictures, I thought they would be interesting for someone out there to take a look at.
They go in juxtaposition of two films' photos:
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1123.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fl546%2Faliennaire%2Fspace_suit2.jpg&hash=47f54dd3403128a7ba35cb1e41c39af9624758de)
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1123.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fl546%2Faliennaire%2Fspace_suit1.jpg&hash=df7c5015f8b5931a678ae554d586740d8723d466)
The first half, as you can see, is the picture off Prometheus, the next one to it is the image, taken out of Voyage to the prehistoric planet (or source Russian film Planet of storms ) of 1965 (1961) correspondingly!
You can espy here the same transparent (glass-like) helmet with the solid base around the neck and at the back of the head area, more or less tight-fitting costume, waist belt with gears attached to it, chest plates... I find it quite stunning, that idea of snug space suit like this was unveiled so far back in time and is not new itself, I assume the difficulties of its implementation (lack of due material, technology, etc.) hampered the creation of the similar spacesuits in real life, maybe we will see them soon to be actually built ;)
Quote from: aliennaire on Jan 07, 2012, 09:59:07 AM
I probably should bid excuse for reviving this thread after it's been dormant since the middle of December, but I know there once have been discussed bio/space suits, which Prometheus' crew is clad in, so when I lucked upon the next pictures, I thought they would be interesting for someone out there to take a look at.
They go in juxtaposition of two films' photos:
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1123.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fl546%2Faliennaire%2Fspace_suit2.jpg&hash=47f54dd3403128a7ba35cb1e41c39af9624758de)
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1123.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fl546%2Faliennaire%2Fspace_suit1.jpg&hash=df7c5015f8b5931a678ae554d586740d8723d466)
The first half, as you can see, is the picture off Prometheus, the next one to it is the image, taken out of Voyage to the prehistoric planet (or source Russian film Planet of storms ) of 1965 (1961) correspondingly!
You can espy here the same transparent (glass-like) helmet with the solid base around the neck and at the back of the head area, more or less tight-fitting costume, waist belt with gears attached to it, chest plates... I find it quite stunning, that idea of snug space suit like this was unveiled so far back in time and is not new itself, I assume the difficulties of its implementation (lack of due material, technology, etc.) hampered the creation of the similar spacesuits in real life, maybe we will see them soon to be actually built ;)
good catch! 8)
i definitely can see the resemblance!
Quote from: Kol on Jan 07, 2012, 02:55:44 PM
Quote from: aliennaire on Jan 07, 2012, 09:59:07 AM
I probably should bid excuse for reviving this thread after it's been dormant since the middle of December, but I know there once have been discussed bio/space suits, which Prometheus' crew is clad in, so when I lucked upon the next pictures, I thought they would be interesting for someone out there to take a look at.
They go in juxtaposition of two films' photos:
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1123.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fl546%2Faliennaire%2Fspace_suit2.jpg&hash=47f54dd3403128a7ba35cb1e41c39af9624758de)
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1123.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fl546%2Faliennaire%2Fspace_suit1.jpg&hash=df7c5015f8b5931a678ae554d586740d8723d466)
The first half, as you can see, is the picture off Prometheus, the next one to it is the image, taken out of Voyage to the prehistoric planet (or source Russian film Planet of storms ) of 1965 (1961) correspondingly!
You can espy here the same transparent (glass-like) helmet with the solid base around the neck and at the back of the head area, more or less tight-fitting costume, waist belt with gears attached to it, chest plates... I find it quite stunning, that idea of snug space suit like this was unveiled so far back in time and is not new itself, I assume the difficulties of its implementation (lack of due material, technology, etc.) hampered the creation of the similar spacesuits in real life, maybe we will see them soon to be actually built ;)
good catch! 8)
i definitely can see the resemblance!
Yeah, this looks very alike ;D
Quote from: LarsVader on Dec 11, 2011, 10:18:33 AM
Quote from: Never say no to Panda! on Dec 11, 2011, 09:54:50 AM
Those search engines suck cause it's on this site:
http://www.michaelfassbender.org/expressen.html (http://www.michaelfassbender.org/expressen.html)
That's where I got it from.
I will say that is defo the passage they walk down when they first enter the derelect ship in A L I E N.
no doubt about it
Quote from: nendo on Jan 07, 2012, 05:08:16 PM
Quote from: LarsVader on Dec 11, 2011, 10:18:33 AM
Quote from: Never say no to Panda! on Dec 11, 2011, 09:54:50 AM
Those search engines suck cause it's on this site:
http://www.michaelfassbender.org/expressen.html (http://www.michaelfassbender.org/expressen.html)
That's where I got it from.
I will say that is defo the passage they walk down when they first enter the derelect ship in A L I E N.
no doubt about it
It is! I got the book
Giger's Alien for christmas, it's in there. Just flipped sides.
I was wrong... ...so wrong. I'm so sorry...
Quote from: aliennaire on Jan 07, 2012, 09:59:07 AM
I probably should bid excuse for reviving this thread after it's been dormant since the middle of December, but I know there once have been discussed bio/space suits, which Prometheus' crew is clad in, so when I lucked upon the next pictures, I thought they would be interesting for someone out there to take a look at.
They go in juxtaposition of two films' photos:
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1123.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fl546%2Faliennaire%2Fspace_suit2.jpg&hash=47f54dd3403128a7ba35cb1e41c39af9624758de)
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1123.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fl546%2Faliennaire%2Fspace_suit1.jpg&hash=df7c5015f8b5931a678ae554d586740d8723d466)
The first half, as you can see, is the picture off Prometheus, the next one to it is the image, taken out of Voyage to the prehistoric planet (or source Russian film Planet of storms ) of 1965 (1961) correspondingly!
You can espy here the same transparent (glass-like) helmet with the solid base around the neck and at the back of the head area, more or less tight-fitting costume, waist belt with gears attached to it, chest plates... I find it quite stunning, that idea of snug space suit like this was unveiled so far back in time and is not new itself, I assume the difficulties of its implementation (lack of due material, technology, etc.) hampered the creation of the similar spacesuits in real life, maybe we will see them soon to be actually built ;)
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&q=bubble+helmet&gs_sm=e&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=isch&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi (http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&q=bubble+helmet&gs_sm=e&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=isch&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi)