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Title: Climate Change Thread
Post by: Immortan Jonesy on Apr 13, 2022, 01:43:28 AM
Title: Re: Climate Change Thread
Post by: Immortan Jonesy on Apr 22, 2022, 04:09:25 PM
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Earth Day 2022: Today's annual Earth Day Doodle features real time-lapse imagery from Google Earth and other sources showing the impacts of climate change across our planet. (http://www.google.com/doodles/earth-day-2022)
Title: Re: Climate Change Thread
Post by: Immortan Jonesy on Oct 10, 2023, 12:37:30 AM
https://twitter.com/Nature/status/1711417660846514517
Title: Re: Climate Change Thread
Post by: Still Collating... on Oct 10, 2023, 07:19:08 PM
As for the original In a Nutshell video, it has a few flaws and perspective distortions that taint the quality of the video that was noted and explored by other researching YouTubers. I'd say it's too optimistic that companies and out of control capitalism like it is now will save us.

What makes me sad is that so many companies now are doing token green stuff on the surface that when researched deeper has no positive effect. There's too much dishonest pandering (like with other social groups and situations that need help and aren't receiving the help they need) which ironically not only does it not do anything impactfully good, it also causes the more conservatives to be even more skeptical about green policy. They lump all possible policies together, from the ineffectual company pandering to token gestures by local governments to even possibly true impactful changes on the state level, and therefore think it's all a scam.

What's sad in my part of the world where I'm living right now, especially a lot of people from 45 and older would rather believe that the worsening climate and more frequent natural disasters are cause the WEST (mostly the USA) are controlling the weather and doing these things on purpose... :laugh: Completely ignoring the fact that all across the world we're having worse and worse weather, even USA with crazy hurricanes on the coasts, earthquakes, Texas had that freak snowstorm, wildfires, and the tornados in the central region. To me, it's sad what some people will believe. And so they'll ignore the problems and the corruption between megacompanies and countries that made this situation the way it is during their own lifetime.   
Title: Re: Climate Change Thread
Post by: BlueMarsalis79 on Oct 10, 2023, 08:05:55 PM
f**king roasting here in October.
Title: Re: Climate Change Thread
Post by: [cancerblack] on Oct 10, 2023, 08:39:32 PM
Quote from: BlueMarsalis79 on Oct 10, 2023, 08:05:55 PMf**king roasting here in October.

And it's been raining here for an entire year.
Title: Re: Climate Change Thread
Post by: ralfy on Oct 15, 2023, 11:42:25 PM
Around 70 pct of mining equipment, up to 50 pct of manufacturing energy resources, and the bulk of shipping involve fossil fuels, not to mention petrochemicals. That means oil is critical for industrialization (including manufacture of renewable energy components which have low energy returns and quantity), and much of humanity is still industrializing, while those who industrialized are counting on them to produce and consume more so that their own incomes and returns on investment will continue rising.

Meanwhile, what affects oil also affects copper, uranium, etc.

Title: Re: Climate Change Thread
Post by: Local Trouble on Oct 15, 2023, 11:47:20 PM
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Title: Re: Climate Change Thread
Post by: Blackdawn on Oct 17, 2023, 06:37:35 AM
Quote from: Still Collating... on Oct 10, 2023, 07:19:08 PMAs for the original In a Nutshell video, it has a few flaws and perspective distortions that taint the quality of the video that was noted and explored by other researching YouTubers. I'd say it's too optimistic that companies and out of control capitalism like it is now will save us.

What makes me sad is that so many companies now are doing token green stuff on the surface that when researched deeper has no positive effect. There's too much dishonest pandering (like with other social groups and situations that need help and aren't receiving the help they need) which ironically not only does it not do anything impactfully good, it also causes the more conservatives to be even more skeptical about green policy. They lump all possible policies together, from the ineffectual company pandering to token gestures by local governments to even possibly true impactful changes on the state level, and therefore think it's all a scam.

What's sad in my part of the world where I'm living right now, especially a lot of people from 45 and older would rather believe that the worsening climate and more frequent natural disasters are cause the WEST (mostly the USA) are controlling the weather and doing these things on purpose... :laugh: Completely ignoring the fact that all across the world we're having worse and worse weather, even USA with crazy hurricanes on the coasts, earthquakes, Texas had that freak snowstorm, wildfires, and the tornados in the central region. To me, it's sad what some people will believe. And so they'll ignore the problems and the corruption between megacompanies and countries that made this situation the way it is during their own lifetime.   

The problem is society as a collective. People in general preach about how they support going green but don't physically contribute. Most just pay an extra fee for their trash and don't use plastic.

It's possible for everyone to be on solar and turbine power, but that involves everyone pitching in and maintaining their independent unit. People don't want to do that though. People like the idea of going solar but want it as a button where they hit and magic happens, they don't want to manage their own batteries, fix their solar panels or maintain their surge protectors and where the power circulated (forgot what that's called).

Other issue with going solar is the government just flat out doesn't like it. Many people here in states have gone solar but can't use their system because the government cracked down on more taxes just to use it. Same thing with electric vehicles, states are wanting to apply more tax for electric vehicle drivers as the state will be missing out on their gas taxes.

We will never truly be able to go green because basically no one is truly willing to do it.
Title: Re: Climate Change Thread
Post by: kwisatz on Oct 17, 2023, 11:11:26 PM
Quote from: Local Trouble on Oct 15, 2023, 11:47:20 PMhttps://media0.giphy.com/media/3o7abL1nxw0AvOK1pu/giphy.gif

https://twitter.com/visegrad24/status/1714320987427143737 (https://twitter.com/visegrad24/status/1714320987427143737)
Title: Re: Climate Change Thread
Post by: Immortan Jonesy on Oct 17, 2023, 11:14:48 PM
https://twitter.com/WIRED/status/1713933079666942223
Title: Re: Climate Change Thread
Post by: Immortan Jonesy on Oct 24, 2023, 07:18:28 PM
https://twitter.com/WIRED/status/1716454489501188595
Title: Re: Climate Change Thread
Post by: Immortan Jonesy on Nov 07, 2023, 07:30:07 PM
https://twitter.com/WIREDScience/status/1721933453820657848
Title: Re: Climate Change Thread
Post by: Immortan Jonesy on Nov 29, 2023, 05:32:02 PM
https://twitter.com/EarthAccounting/status/1729183308842422445
Title: Re: Climate Change Thread
Post by: Eal on Nov 29, 2023, 06:54:30 PM
Quote from: Immortan Jonesy on Nov 29, 2023, 05:32:02 PMhttps://twitter.com/EarthAccounting/status/1729183308842422445
Interesting. So basically: "Here human, this spot isn't as sucky or climate-affected to plant tomatoes, so pick this area and you'll get more yield"?
Title: Re: Climate Change Thread
Post by: ralfy on Nov 30, 2023, 01:11:13 AM
About AI, reminds me of the movie Colossus: The Forbin Project.
Title: Re: Climate Change Thread
Post by: Immortan Jonesy on Dec 04, 2023, 08:57:19 PM
https://twitter.com/DEADLINE/status/1731750396643975486
Title: Re: Climate Change Thread
Post by: Cougerboy on Dec 06, 2023, 03:18:10 AM
I'm more concerned with the increasingly apparent and more immediate effects of climate change. 2023 has been a year of extremes in terms of global weather. We have an El Nino year coupled with increasing circumstantial evidence of the impact from climate change. Question is, are we ready for a world of climate change? 2023 suggest no. Then what can we do to increase our resilience to the increasing frequency of extreme weather?

First, just take a look at the list of the crazy record-breaking weather so far in 2023:

1. Storm Daniel causing record-breaking flash flooding in Greece

In September, Storm Daniel hit Greece, causing 754mm (29 inches) of rain to fall in just 18 hours in the village of Zagora in September. For comparison, Athens in Greece gets an annual rainfall of 400 mm (15.7 inches). The whole day had a record  1,092 millimetres (43.0 in). That's more than double an entire year's worth of rain falling in one day in that spot in Greece. Flash flooding in that country caused 18 fatalities:

theconversation.com/greeces-record-rainfall-and-flash-floods-are-part-of-a-trend-across-the-mediterranean-the-weather-is-becoming-more-dangerous-213164


2. Devastating floods destroy Derna in Libya

That same storm Daniel caused even worse devastation in Libya. Torrential rain from the storm caused catastrophic dam failures, releasing an estimated 30 million cubic metres (39 million cubic yards) of water (www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/9/13/why-did-dernas-dams-break-when-storm-daniel-hit-libya) to rush into the city of Derna. Over 4000 deaths in Derna downstream from the dams (libyaobserver.ly/inbrief/number-deaths-derna-reached-4029-al-mismari-says) was the tragic consequence. The dams in question have suffered from many years of neglect and prior damage from past storms weren't repaired. A quarter of Derna was completely destroyed:




3. Most rainfall in a century and a half in Hong Kong

That same month in September, a record-breaking torrential rainfall cause flash flooding in Hong Kong. "A record-breaking hourly rainfall of 158.1 millimetres (6.2 inches) from 11 p.m. to midnight on 7 September, the highest since records began in 1884. The 2-hour total rainfall of 201.0 millimetres (7.9 inches) and 12-hour total rainfall of 605.8 millimetres (23.9 inches) recorded at the Observatory Headquarters during this phenomenal rainstorm also broke their respective records" (www.hko.gov.hk/en/wxinfo/pastwx/mws2023/mws202309.htm). Subway stations turned to waterfalls, streets turned to raging rivers, massive landslides were triggered and it was the heaviest rain in that city in 140 years (www.theguardian.com/world/2023/sep/08/hong-kong-weather-record-rain-flooding-after-typhoon-haikui):




4. Apocalyptic wildfires in Hawaii

And its not just extreme flooding, the opposite also occurred, wildfires. The Maui wildfires here in the US totally destroyed Lahaina. The scale of that wildfire was unprecedented in Hawaii. 99 people were killed and scores are still missing (apnews.com/article/maui-hawaii-wildfire-death-toll-3dc505d4d83b6af5ee01fdaf173c4f01). Hawaii Governor Josh Green called the wildfires the worst natural disaster in state history (www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2023/08/10/hawaii-wildfires-impact-damage/). The cost of the damage is over 5 billion dollars (www.ncei.noaa.gov/access/billions/events.pdf). A high pressure system to the north of Hawaii and Hurricane Dora to the south caused strong winds to blow over Maui, triggering the wildfires (www.washingtonpost.com/weather/2023/08/09/hawaii-wildfires-maui-lahaina-dora/):




5. First tropical storm in California in 84 years

And even with relatively minor level of damage, there was also record-breaking weather events. Tropical storm Hiliary was the first tropical system to hit anywhere in California in 84 years. Causing Los Angeles, Southern California, Nevada and parts of Arizona, normally bone dry and arid this time of year, to experience rare flooding in a desert environment (www.cbsnews.com/news/tropical-storm-hilary-southern-california-nevada-rain-flooding/). Many places experienced a year's worth of rain in a day:




6. Hurricane Otis hitting Acapulco

And just very recently, Hurricane Otis experienced record-breaking explosive intensification in the Eastern Pacific. Jumping from a mere tropical storm into a Cat 5 monster within just 24 hours, stunning meterologists (www.foxweather.com/weather-news/hurricane-otis-computer-forecast-models-rapid-intensification-acapulco) and worst, catching Mexico off guard. The storm jumped in intensity as it crossed over an unusally warm area of ocean water (www.cbsnews.com/news/hurricane-otis-category-5-rapid-intensification-why/). It almost took a direct hit on the resort city of Acapulco, causing massive damage and so far 47 dead (news.yahoo.com/hurricane-otis-photos-show-devastation-131001314.html):




Now while it may be difficult to attribute climate change as the cause in any one of those events, but if you look at those above events in aggregate terms, the record-breaking and rare extreme weathers does suggest climate change might be a factor. Some predict such extreme events will be more frequent in the future as climate change continues. Question is, are we prepared? And what can we do to improve our resilience to such events?
Title: Re: Climate Change Thread
Post by: Immortan Jonesy on Dec 23, 2023, 07:20:36 PM
there are forest fires sometimes . It is a very hot summer in the southern hemisphere⚛☢☀️
Title: Re: Climate Change Thread
Post by: Immortan Jonesy on Jan 09, 2024, 03:05:24 PM
https://twitter.com/Nature/status/1744316079155929539
Title: Re: Climate Change Thread
Post by: Immortan Jonesy on Jan 12, 2024, 03:57:53 PM
https://twitter.com/AndyVermaut/status/1745543654541070614
Title: Re: Climate Change Thread
Post by: Immortan Jonesy on Jan 22, 2024, 01:14:14 AM
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https://twitter.com/guardianscience/status/1748965705960370638
Title: Re: Climate Change Thread
Post by: Immortan Jonesy on Jan 28, 2024, 02:21:08 PM
https://twitter.com/NatureNV/status/1750198656173519311
Title: Re: Climate Change Thread
Post by: Immortan Jonesy on Mar 28, 2024, 11:20:29 PM
https://twitter.com/Nature/status/1773425597693206691
Title: Re: Climate Change Thread
Post by: Immortan Jonesy on Apr 01, 2024, 03:04:19 PM
https://twitter.com/SmithsonianMag/status/1773842070660124916
Title: Re: Climate Change Thread
Post by: Immortan Jonesy on Apr 22, 2024, 03:43:15 PM
https://twitter.com/SPACEdotcom/status/1782393578561409041
Title: Re: Climate Change Thread
Post by: Local Trouble on Apr 22, 2024, 04:28:53 PM
https://twitter.com/AP/status/1782232898294239537