The official box art has been now officially revealed. Click for HQ.
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3D packshots:
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i like it :) but i did like the placeholder as well i probably just have to get used to it
i have a dejavue on this Topic i can sware it was there before :-P ::)
Quote from: AMC_Duke on Dec 04, 2009, 04:41:11 PM
i have a dejavue on this Topic i can sware it was there before :-P ::)
I hate GMT.
i think the ps3 box looks better mainly cause there's less empty space but i really like it the limey green colour since tht is my favourite colour
I still say it looks like a demon cat over on the right. ;)
It still is too green. ;D
Well, that'll make it easy to see from afar in the shops. :)
The BBFC certificate on the PS3 box just changed to a PEGI one.
Spooky. :-\
Quote from: TJ Doc on Dec 04, 2009, 05:01:02 PM
The BBFC certificate on the PS3 box just changed to a PEGI one.
Spooky. :-\
There are both versions:
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which age rating system does it use the only reason i ask is because the pegi one looks less noticable
Looks to Ikarop and asks "Will there be awsome news regarding avp soon" :-P ?
This box art reminds me of avp extinction. Either way I liked the old one with the planet and space
Quote from: R103-delphinus3 on Dec 04, 2009, 05:43:51 PM
This box art reminds me of avp extinction. Either way I liked the old one with the planet and space
Even the placement of the species is the same.
I'll say though, the box art reminds me of primal hunt.
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Its the green.
But I like it.
Looking good. I liked the placeholder aswell, but this looks good too.
And yeah about Primal Hunt. I thought it reminded me of something.
Quote from: AMC_Duke on Dec 04, 2009, 05:39:42 PM
Looks to Ikarop and asks "Will there be awsome news regarding avp soon" :-P ?
;)
So wait i've been avoiding this area of the site until recently.
Who is this mysterious Ikarop? And why does he bring many beautiful things to us
Quote from: Huol on Dec 04, 2009, 06:08:02 PM
So wait i've been avoiding this area of the site until recently.
Who is this mysterious Ikarop? And why does he bring many beautiful things to us
bc he owns.
and he has connections.
possibly a dude from rebellion, who knos :)
He's like our Yoda.
Quote from: TJ Doc on Dec 04, 2009, 06:15:36 PM
He's like our Yoda.
That explains why he has a green avatar (and likes the new green boxart?).
If only with a weird way, he spoke! Yes, mmmm!
If only we knew he spoke that way. He's surely not bound to such a manner of syntax when typing.
Too green :P
Reminds of PH, yes.
i liked the old art. you know... with the planet.
Quote from: clinton_haeckl on Dec 04, 2009, 06:54:07 PM
i liked the old art. you know... with the planet.
Well, in a marketing point of view, having just a planet wouldn't get the attention of many people.
And there are many who don't know the Alien or the Predator.
So having them all shown, is better.
And that green is seen from afar, so people walking in the shop, will see that "green thing" and wonder what it is.
Catches your eye. :P
you cant miss that one :)
It's ok, not one of the best mind you.
Looks good. :)
Quote from: Ghost Rider LSOV on Dec 04, 2009, 07:01:07 PM
Quote from: clinton_haeckl on Dec 04, 2009, 06:54:07 PM
i liked the old art. you know... with the planet.
Well, in a marketing point of view, having just a planet wouldn't get the attention of many people.
And there are many who don't know the Alien or the Predator.
So having them all shown, is better.
And that green is seen from afar, so people walking in the shop, will see that "green thing" and wonder what it is.
Catches your eye. :P
True that what's I was thinking. The placeholder looks better but it is not as eye catching. This one will be more effective in stores. Though in my mind I still associate that bright green with Primal Hunt which sucked a lot. lol
I like the box art. I think its pretty kool
I like the art, but the green hue kills it for me. Something darker, like the first covers for AvP and AvP 2. Or even a lighter blue with darker characters. Something other than Boomer Bile Green.
I like it.
Pretty sick, looks like it'll stand out.
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Just a quick blueish version of it..
red/gold is better.
Don´t like it at all, but donot care cos I get it from Steam ;)
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Just a quick redish version of it..
Although I do like the original box-art as it currently is.
Alien and Pred look like they would team up against humas = silly
Bad Photoshoping all over (look the cut edges of marines and the logo placements)
Using Ingame models for boxart = lame
God, where is the good old time, where illustrators made impressive covers and/or posters (goes for movies too nowadays)
Green works fine for me. But who cares about the box, the important stuff is inside! :)
Locusta: Not everyone can be superior in graphics like you. ;) I'm pretty sure you'd make incredible cover art.
Well if you don't like it you can always photoshop your own cover, print it out and slide it over the original :P
wer naj wery...!!!!!!!NO spik englisz spic polen ,...!!!POzdro dla fanów
Quote from: locusta on Dec 04, 2009, 09:09:11 PM
Don´t like it at all, but donot care cos I get it from Steam ;)
Yeah.
Though i do sorta miss coming home with a new game.
i dig the box art. thanks ikarop.
Would look better in natural colors.
Quote from: locusta on Dec 04, 2009, 09:25:14 PM
Alien and Pred look like they would team up against humas = silly
But it's called Aliens
VERSUS Predator. So anyone who would think they teamed up = silly :)
Anyone who doesn't know the franchise and their respective protagonists = silly. ;D
That boxart is hawt.
Quote from: ikarop on Dec 04, 2009, 06:00:49 PM
Quote from: AMC_Duke on Dec 04, 2009, 05:39:42 PM
Looks to Ikarop and asks "Will there be awsome news regarding avp soon" :-P ?
;)
Oooh, I can only imagine what. Will it be info within the next week or two?
Quote from: The_Silencer on Dec 04, 2009, 09:12:05 PM
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Just a quick redish version of it..
Although I do like the original box-art as it currently is.
i like it.
Quote from: ikarop on Dec 04, 2009, 06:00:49 PM
Quote from: AMC_Duke on Dec 04, 2009, 05:39:42 PM
Looks to Ikarop and asks "Will there be awsome news regarding avp soon" :-P ?
;)
If your hiding a possible demo....DONT. lol tell us xD
I was thinking a demo would be prepared around this time bc of xmas.
Blueish will be great.
Quote from: TJ Doc on Dec 04, 2009, 06:15:36 PM
He's like our Yoda.
Thanks :o. Though I'm just doing my "job" for the site.
The green popped my eyes out at first,but it's pretty sweet,nice cover all around.
I like it :). They should have pulled a poll tho. Boxart with different colors. And the one that got the audience. WON. But this still looks badasssss
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This one should be the US boxart but whatever. Epic either way.
I think I like the placeholder artwork a bit better, but it wouldn't attract many eyes in the store.
Quote from: Steve C on Dec 05, 2009, 12:06:54 AM
I think I like the placeholder artwork a bit better, but it wouldn't attract many eyes in the store.
Megan Fox will.
Placeholder looks better.
Anything with ALIENS written in that font sure attracts my eye ::)
Anyway, i think its an ok, if rather generic cover. I remember the cover for AvPG being much cooler with the human skull though.
I would also love something along the lines of my avatar, i think thats the greatest cover of any of the movies ;)
I love it!
Looks good. :)
its a good thing they squeezed the Colonial Marines in there. ;D
Now people will know this isn't based on the AVP movies. ;D
i really hope that it is a ma15+ game because if it was m it would be crap
Brilliant box art!! Aaah the excitement... 2 months... 2months... *Mumbles continiously and wanders off to pet imaginary AvP3 game*.
Quote from: ikarop on Dec 04, 2009, 04:42:52 PM
Quote from: AMC_Duke on Dec 04, 2009, 04:41:11 PM
i have a dejavue on this Topic i can sware it was there before :-P ::)
I hate GMT.
I got kinda used to it xD.
Tho I like the old one more... the planet paper. Looked more.. psyho, and this is more like, dunno, action type...
Awesome. Both our ETBAs get fair treatment here and are at the top of their game
Proof positive that when it comes to aliens and predators, there is plenty of Badassery to go around.
Maybe the planet part is used on the back of the box? I wouldn't put it past them to use this..add some text and some screenshots with captions. Could be stellar.
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But I agree with locusta, it would look better had it been drawn.
Ikarop is AvPG's game dude, as I like to call him.
I love it, really nice art. Does remind me of AvPE and PH but I liked those boxes so it's cool. Like the new art better than the placeholder. ;D
freaking sick i love it !!
Guess what guys! We cant get this game in Australia. I am moving there the month that it is released and if I get it in time I invite any of you Ozzies to come play LOL I might be the only person in the country to have it.
BTW is this Kevin Rudds fault that the game is considered to "graphic" >:(
I don't like the box art. It reminds me some déjà vu. (AvP Extinction, AvP-Requiem, AVP2: Primal Hunt)
I expected they would put an alien and a predator on the top with marines at the bottom.
Prefer the planet cover, but I might have liked this one better if it werent green, meh, I guess its Ok
nothing to do with the new box art but is lance henriksen in avp?
Quote from: locusta on Dec 04, 2009, 09:25:14 PM
Alien and Pred look like they would team up against humas = silly
Bad Photoshoping all over (look the cut edges of marines and the logo placements)
Using Ingame models for boxart = lame
God, where is the good old time, where illustrators made impressive covers and/or posters (goes for movies too nowadays)
This.
thisthisthisthis.
Awesome boxart. I hope this boxart will be the same for the USA too.
I wonder which one is Sgt. Kaneko?
the one on the left it seems or not shown
Quote from: locusta on Dec 04, 2009, 09:25:14 PM
God, where is the good old time, where illustrators made impressive covers and/or posters (goes for movies too nowadays)
quite!!
in the grand old days when Wolf from Gladiators was on the front of Barbarian for the C64.. badass :D
Now that Ive taken a closer look I really hope they are gonna polish it up since both around the "Rebellion" logo and around the 2 marines to the sides theres "some white left" from when, Im guessing, they cut them out with photoshop.. Or maybe thats intended? Hope not..
i think it makes it look a bit cheap using in game character models
im not saying that they look bad its just it isn't good for a cover it looks more official if it is a drawing even if it was a drawing of that exact picture i think it would make it look a lot better and more professional not saying its not good because it is im just thinking it could look smarter and still have the same design
it would also get more people interested in it imo :-\
actually it looks better this way, more raw and fierce. instead of some painting.
i agree in a way but they could of at least polished it a bit the way it looks now is like it just got taken straight from the game also is the bold marine on the cover cause i keep seeing him popping up in screenshots ? i hope he's in the game he looked cool so did the black marine he was with in the screenshots with
well it shows that the graphics are good enough to be cover art. :)
i know it is bitter sweet ;)
Box art looks amazing. I cannot wait ;D
Letting my hyped brain aside, this box art sucks balls, imo.
AvP2 box art was way cooler than this "LetsPutIngameGraphicModelsOnBox"-Thingy.
No need of marines, just some good ol' Giger-like drawings and it's done.
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Or take the Dragon Age Box Art as example. It's simply amazing with it's style.
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Hell, even Crysis didn't need ingame box art :D
most people can't even tell it's in game, it looks that realistic.
I fail to see why using in-game imagery is bad especially if the images are nice. :-\
they are just nitpicking because they want smooth painted art.
at the end of the day, who cares??? aslong as its got a CD inside and the game is good...
Boxart has got to draw your eyes. This certainly does. It's beautiful.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Dec 06, 2009, 03:25:16 PM
I fail to see why using in-game imagery is bad especially if the images are nice. :-\
Cause its lazy.
I'm sorry but that is ridiculous. I know you guys are incredibly picky but that boxart looks amazing, regardless of whether someone went out and drew the creatures or whether they use in-game models that they're obviously proud of.
there is NOTHING lazy about it. art is art, even if someone makes a collage of existing art.
It sure is harder and longer as heck to model those species in 3-D instead of whipping up some kind of
painting by hand.
No whats lazy is just clonestamping 3 images then applying a green tint.
Lazy in comparison to painting some original art.
I still like it though. :l
Quote from: Huol on Dec 06, 2009, 04:00:56 PM
No whats lazy is just clonestamping 3 images then applying a green tint.
Lazy in comparison to painting some original art.
::)
::) ::) ::) ::)
Gotta agree with Huol.
I really don't mind the box art that much, it aint really a big deal. But I can easily tell they just took some of the first images they released and pasted them together. An original image would have been more appreciated in my opinion.
Calling it 'beautiful' is definitely something I can't agree with, But to each his own. Its pretty meh to me.
you are just basing it on art you seen before. you are not basing the art based on itself.
9 out of 10 customers are not gonna give a **** what's on the cover.
Mm hm.
We are outnumbered by 'norms'.
For the PC version, we get DX 11 features, which means we get that...uh....."polygon" advanced stuff going on. What was it called again?? :P
You know, as the camera comes closer to an object, it gets twice as detailed or something?
So if they use screenshots from the PC version, the aliens head will look alot smoother, etc.. :D
Quote from: affinity on Dec 06, 2009, 04:55:56 PM
you are just basing it on art you seen before. you are not basing the art based on itself.
Well of course I am, if your going to gauge anything you'll compare it to things you've seen before and enjoyed. If your 'basing the art based on itself" you couldn't really have an opinion on it. It would be the only thing you've seen.
Nothing creative nor special about it.
It's all business folks. This isn't a book cover or movie poster. When people glance at a game they want an idea of what they're getting. It would be nice if there were alternate covers, but I don't think Sega is looking to spend the time or money risking a subdued or artsy cover design. Bioshock had the same complaints when it came out.
I thought they were going to use the one where the pred is holding the marine and alien by their neck, they used that one a lot on the shows.
^ I can see that appearing on the back of the box.
Quote from: TJ Doc on Dec 06, 2009, 07:09:01 PM
^ I can see that appearing on the back of the box.
I'd prefer a pic with the Alien headbiting the Predator and impaling a marine with its tail. ;D
The one with the dead pred, 4 aliens over him, one eating his ear. The pred fan boy's favorite.
Quote from: Brother on Dec 06, 2009, 07:14:12 PM
The one with the dead pred, 4 aliens over him, one eating his ear. The pred fan boy's favorite.
Ah yes, that one would be nice too.
But it needs a dead Marine.
The marine has already been eaten.
Why so simple? Why not have 3 predators pinned by the alien tail while its headbiting a 4th, plus its clawing some marine to death on the ground, now thats a backcover!
Quote from: Huol on Dec 06, 2009, 04:00:56 PM
No whats lazy is just clonestamping 3 images then applying a green tint.
Exactly my thought too. I just wanted to say, that they spent quite a time to do that game, hence they could have invested in a bit more artistic cover.
Hey, many of us waited nearly 10 years for this to happen. Me included.
It's just box art...
Quote from: DoomRulz on Dec 06, 2009, 07:52:49 PM
It's just box art...
No, it isn't. Just like the DLC, it's representational of priorities and commitment to evolving the total package. Which in this case says: "Licensed Product adhering to Corporate Contract #3". I keep hearing from marketing interviews how Rebellion is bringing various content to appeal to casual and dedicated fans alike, I have yet to see anything other than the close combat
concept and refusal to censor content that says "hello, fans of the original, have same love." This game reeks of casual bullet point suits-with-briefcases of casual/me too game poll ridden Powerpoint slideshows.
Casual gamers would die too much to play a game like this.
Apparently Rebellion is betting they'll be pumping a shitload more cash into it than fans, which certainly a safer bet; considering most of the supposedly "hardcore" fans around here didn't bother commenting on AvP:R until torrents started showing up.
It's going to be "just box art" and "just pre-order bonus" when/if the game turns out to be good and these "just little thingies" are only the few bad things in it. Right now these little things are pretty huge.
Quote from: Xhan on Dec 06, 2009, 10:11:38 PM
Quote from: DoomRulz on Dec 06, 2009, 07:52:49 PM
It's just box art...
No, it isn't. Just like the DLC, it's representational of priorities and commitment to evolving the total package. Which in this case says: "Licensed Product adhering to Corporate Contract #3". I keep hearing from marketing interviews how Rebellion is bringing various content to appeal to casual and dedicated fans alike, I have yet to see anything other than the close combat concept and refusal to censor content that says "hello, fans of the original, have same love." This game reeks of casual bullet point suits-with-briefcases of casual/me too game poll ridden Powerpoint slideshows.
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Should we be laughing sir?
Yes, we know you're from the internets Yutani.
*Pats head*
Have a Ritalin.
Quote from: Xhan on Dec 06, 2009, 11:33:47 PM
Yes, we know you're from the internets Yutani.
*Pats head*
Have a Ritalin.
Get a life xan, when a box-art of a videogame its such a big deal for you, you have a serious problem.
Quote from: Xhan on Dec 06, 2009, 10:11:38 PM
Quote from: DoomRulz on Dec 06, 2009, 07:52:49 PM
It's just box art...
No, it isn't. Just like the DLC, it's representational of priorities and commitment to evolving the total package. Which in this case says: "Licensed Product adhering to Corporate Contract #3". I keep hearing from marketing interviews how Rebellion is bringing various content to appeal to casual and dedicated fans alike, I have yet to see anything other than the close combat concept and refusal to censor content that says "hello, fans of the original, have same love." This game reeks of casual bullet point suits-with-briefcases of casual/me too game poll ridden Powerpoint slideshows.
...
Do you also judge a book by its cover?
Somebody is missing the point but whateva
So enlighten me. What did I miss?
Quote from: DoomRulz on Dec 06, 2009, 11:55:20 PM
Quote from: Xhan on Dec 06, 2009, 10:11:38 PM
Quote from: DoomRulz on Dec 06, 2009, 07:52:49 PM
It's just box art...
No, it isn't. Just like the DLC, it's representational of priorities and commitment to evolving the total package. Which in this case says: "Licensed Product adhering to Corporate Contract #3". I keep hearing from marketing interviews how Rebellion is bringing various content to appeal to casual and dedicated fans alike, I have yet to see anything other than the close combat concept and refusal to censor content that says "hello, fans of the original, have same love." This game reeks of casual bullet point suits-with-briefcases of casual/me too game poll ridden Powerpoint slideshows.
...
Do you also judge a book by its cover?
I judge a product on the SUM of its parts as well as the whole. Both the DLC and cover fall rather directly under product representation. Wrangling FOX through SEGA to contract a DH artist for a cover must have been like dedicated server support, "exorbitantly expensive".
QuoteQuote from: Yutani on Today at 15:11:38
http://www.weirdthings.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/all-babies-have-big-mouths-but-not-as-much-as-this-baby.jpg
Yes, yes; I hear the voices, too. Have a tinfoil hat.
Gah! Oh thanks Xhan... now I won't be able to sleep tonight. :(
^^ Wtf??
DEEER TOOOK HIIIS DAWWWWG!
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.davedorman.com%2Fi%2Fart%2Faliens%2Fmisc%2Favp.jpg&hash=67ace2583ed9e714fd617eae2e201c2022f41346)
as much as 'dorman-predaboy-wankfest image #3' annoys me, that would make a much better cover.
You can certainly tell combat will be a main crux. With the established cover, it could be a love story between the two top characters with the bottom characters being the evil gang who threatens them for all a casual buyer knows. A JRPG of the highest order.
Predator would be totally Tsundere for Alien.
While Alien is yandere for everyone.
I like cookies
I like on topics.
Quote from: Xhan on Dec 06, 2009, 10:11:38 PM
No, it isn't. Just like the DLC, it's representational of priorities and commitment to evolving the total package. Which in this case says: "Licensed Product adhering to Corporate Contract #3". I keep hearing from marketing interviews how Rebellion is bringing various content to appeal to casual and dedicated fans alike, I have yet to see anything other than the close combat concept and refusal to censor content that says "hello, fans of the original, have same love." This game reeks of casual bullet point suits-with-briefcases of casual/me too game poll ridden Powerpoint slideshows....
So by your logic, Bioshock could have been crap because it had a shitty cover?
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.playstationnation.co.uk%2Ffiles%2FuploadedImages%2Fbioshock-ps3.jpg&hash=586f682e758c3a72bee938ea1ae5685475fa8025)
Bioshock cover represented everything what you had to expect of a Systemshock clone...
Its too green for my taste,there are no other colors to contrast with but i can with it, as long as the game rocks hard !
QuoteSo by your logic, Bioshock could have been crap because it had a shitty cover?
People make pettier choices.
DR already brought that up, and didn't get very far.
Second, the two of you being regulars and passing judgment in the omg boobs thread makes the irony physically palpable.
It generally represents the product. There is no artistic flair other than what's inherent in the base assets, there is no drawing of a non-informed purchaser to what the product represents or what kind of satisfaction a purchase will satiate or even what genre the game represents.
An inculcated buyer will already know, because everything under the cover has been delineated, more or less. A casual gamer target to be included might be interested with action, something dynamic, something that gets you to turn the box over to the back to read all the pretty words.
Bioshock could afford a generic (if later iconic) enemy vignette because the hype and publicity around the game was ridiculous. AvP has yet to reach that level.
Type in "Aliens game" in google and A:CM, which is potentially two years away and SEGA has had shit all to say about, comes up first, despite AvP being the subject of regular updates. Seeing as Aliens in the first word in the title, hmm... conundrum.
The cover says Aliens, Predators, some marcus phoenix dudes, this game is post processed entirely in green.
or...
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi771.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fxx352%2FXhanXaijin%2FAvsPRed.jpg&hash=b5bc5f8d9810ceb18647e2aca5c066986f4604f5)
or..
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.coverbrowser.com%2Fimage%2Fdark-horse-presents%2F36-1.jpg&hash=900dd928d6cd7fd1cd9e651114b5e548e97e90a4)
or...
Simon Bisley.
Does anyone of you Guys know, if there will be Subtitles for different Countries (german, french, spain w.e.) in this game?
Maybe Ikarop our Mysterious Sega/Rebellion Insider? ;D
I don't mean Subtitles on the Cover, i mean Subtitles in the Game, that translates what is said in the Game.
Arguing over this is pretty much the most pointless thing I can think of beyond starting a "Would a Predator or Alien win in a fight?" thread.
I don't give a damn about the Box art, as long as the game is good
For one those are comic covers. An illustrated medium. That's logical. We are beyond the point where we need illustrated boxart because the ingame imagery is bad. It draws the eyes. It shows aliens and predators with marines in the middle. It does the job. You're bitching for the sake of bitching now.
If that was the case, I would say OMGSSUX BAAW and be done with it.
Medium has nothing to do with it.
None of the following covers use literal assets:
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm4.static.flickr.com%2F3404%2F3523352944_4781e9fff2.jpg&hash=fc8e496b441b8ee9bdd289dd8ddc18196c6cdd11)
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcache.kotaku.com%2Fassets%2Fresources%2F2007%2F11%2Fgtaivcover.jpg&hash=d4ea8aafdae348e8c601e9bcdd1d70b510777ccc)
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fgallery.techarena.in%2Fdata%2F1%2Fgod-of-war-3-COVER.jpg&hash=938e8c8aed4d33ee1e765f11dc1e1dfda5ce5bf7)
and sales are good, to say the least.
There's thirty years of iconography to pour through for distinction.
And let's look at previous Alien/Predator games. Alien Trilogy had an image from the movie, so did Res, so did AvPGold. Extinction used rendered models from their cutscenes. I suppose you critized them too? GTacs covers are a staple of that franchise. Aliens and Predator are that iconic I don't think the first thoughts will be "they used ingame models. How lazy. This must reflect in the game." No it'll be "cool AvP".
all this crying about the case is getting silly now... its a box for god sake... and i like it, it shows that there models are good enought to be put on the front of the box, they look fine.
I like it. The color will catch people's attention and the content of the cover will certainly spark interest, two badass monsters and a bunch of futuristic soldiers.
it's just a box it's just a preorder bonus it's just skins it's just not canon it's just automatic jump it's just crappy alien design...
Whoa the game is gonna be awesome.
damn i was hoping something more avp1 & avp2.
do you think it glows & pulses when you turn the lights off? :o ::)
Quote from: Brother on Dec 07, 2009, 12:44:34 PM
it's just a box it's just a preorder bonus it's just skins it's just not canon it's just automatic jump it's just crappy alien design...
Whoa the game is gonna be awesome.
Simple, you dont like it.... dont play it!
Quit crying about this stuff here, do it at the rebelion/sega forum were it has more chance of getting a read, its anoyin, every time you wanna check a topic for news you gota search through 5-6 pages of the same thing... people nit-picking.. i mean c'mon... ::)
As a AvP fan I want my game done right since I plan on spending money on it. Rebellion doesn't have forums.
Quote from: Brother on Dec 07, 2009, 01:00:25 PM
As a AvP fan I want my game done right since I plan on spending money on it. Rebellion doesn't have forums.
SEGA does....
So you kick up a silly complaint like the box art not being too your standards?.. And Crying about pre-order skins looking bad is just stupid, no ones forcing you to pre-order are they? and even if you did, you could try... i dont know... not USING them!.
The box art thing is pretty dumb, sure.
But pre-order skins are supposed to be an improvement over the basic skins. No Alien fan worth their salt wants to be a "special" Alien - they just want to be an Alien, because it's a creature that renders designations like "special" powerless. No Predator player wants to wear that godawful mask.
But the Marine is pretty cool.
For the 143th time, it's not JUST a thing.
10 waiting for a new AvP game.
Don't piss off the fans, everyone knows the rule.
Quote from: Brother on Dec 07, 2009, 01:08:45 PM
For the 143th time, it's not JUST a thing.
10 waiting for a new AvP game.
Don't piss off the fans, everyone knows the rule.
Boo hoo....yawn
Be graitfull were even getting a new AvP game... The hole Franchise could of ended on the piss poor excuse of a move AvP:R..
We won't be grateful for bullshit. Thankfully it looks like this game is going to be quite good and for that we will be thankful, but I'd rather have nothing than a poor product.
Quote from: MadassAlex on Dec 07, 2009, 01:18:12 PM
We won't be grateful for bullshit. Thankfully it looks like this game is going to be quite good and for that we will be thankful, but I'd rather have nothing than a poor product.
so why moan about the box art looking rubbish and hating on pre-order items when the game is looking good? after all, what matters at the end of the day is the game, not the box or skins...
I'm not moaning about the box art.
But like I said, pre-order bonuses are supposed to be incentives and to carry some kind of significance. Those skins only carry significance within the game itself, so you'll only care about them after you've played the SP. We don't really know who these characters really are and therefore... we don't care.
The pre-order skins were poor decision-making.
I want to believe that the game will be more than the poor excuse of a movie. I'll be thankful then.
the pre order bonus is the least of my worries
Well its a Box art some like it some dont where is the Problem ?
its not like you need to watch it all day and say wow this looks so cool / shity
you can buy the Game on Steam there you dont have to look at the art and you dont need to puke if you see it.
I think the art is ok and if i would not like it it would not stop me from buying it
The Pre order skins i dont like but thats ok to because i dont need to pre oder it on Gamestop and can buy it where ever i want.
just relax and wait for some reviews of the final game and then you can say "yeah i f**king knew it as i saw the shity box art and i told you it sucks" if the game fails :-P
It's okay I guess, I had hopes for something more like this though:
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.badblood.nl%2Fimages%2Favpse.jpg&hash=13cd2494a16f75e34f62acddde166b85c7344df1)
Maybe the limited/excl will look something like this ;D
Quote from: BadBlood on Dec 07, 2009, 03:04:34 PM
It's okay I guess, I had hopes for something more like this though:
http://www.badblood.nl/images/avpse.jpg
Maybe the limited/excl will look something like this ;D
thats nice but not very eye catching.. the green stands out on the shelves in store.
Game assets should never be used on the box art, save that for the screen shots on the back of the box. Yes the models are great, and I have no problem with the placement of each species overall, or the color...but the quality isn't good enough. It just seems lazy.
This won't stop me from picking up the game...but it, along with the Pre-order skins was not a very strong choice. It wouldn't take a professional artist any longer than 24 hours to churn out something that looks 10x better. After seeing all the beautiful concept art...They could have done much better.
I'd be happy with the placeholder cover art for a limited edition steelbook kinda thing.
Kinda like what Bioshock did.
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.hddvd.eu%2Fimg_g%2FB000PC1LGU.jpg&hash=8cf59ce6e06ae22fe873665a42f04e2f24a59a5c)
Quote from: GrimyGhost on Dec 07, 2009, 03:07:04 PM
thats nice but not very eye catching.. the green stands out on the shelves in store.
I forgot to mention, you have to imagine the logo to be shiny and reflective ;D
Meh it looks good and i couldn't give it shit if its a piece of A4 paper folded up inside a game case with the words "AVP" written on it, as long as the game is good thats all that should matter, i'm not going to waste time moaning and bitching about box art and nit pick it to death, i have better ways to waste time.
Oh nooooo
Ah hell NAAAAAAAW! 8)
Boomer!
(I wonder if all this negativity will change the laws of space and time and make the game...crap)
Quote from: BadBlood on Dec 07, 2009, 03:04:34 PM
It's okay I guess, I had hopes for something more like this though:
http://www.badblood.nl/images/avpse.jpg
Maybe the limited/excl will look something like this ;D
I can't stand that. It's way too dark and showcases nothing.
They should have made a action oriented cover, something like this:
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fgeekspeak.org%2Farticles%2F14%2Favp_statue.jpg&hash=c22518465453c34f09d40b42ae2f66095e2135e2)
I know it's crappy AVP models but something like that so that it looks they are about to kill each other at the same time to make it look balanced from the start.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Dec 07, 2009, 12:35:32 PM
And let's look at previous Alien/Predator games. Alien Trilogy had an image from the movie, so did Res, so did AvPGold. Extinction used rendered models from their cutscenes. I suppose you critized them too? GTacs covers are a staple of that franchise. Aliens and Predator are that iconic I don't think the first thoughts will be "they used ingame models. How lazy. This must reflect in the game." No it'll be "cool AvP".
AvP had neither for the US cover. And yea A3 was a lazy ass cover, for both versions.
AvP/G had neither. Both had rather good abstractions, and big ass shots of the in game models front and center on the back, so apparently they weren't too ashamed of their "shitty, not next gen" models.
AvPG certainly did have physical images of the Alien and Predator. Sure, tinted very blue but they weren't original.
On the inside.
Outside cover was a gold skull.
No the gold was a dark blue with Alien, Predator, and a marine with a skull in middle. I'd post a link but am. on my Hero and can't figure out how to copy links.
QuoteNo the gold was a dark blue with Alien, Predator, and a marine with a skull in middle. I'd post a link but am. on my Hero and can't figure out how to copy links.
This one?
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.gamershell.com%2Fstatic%2Fboxart%2Flarge%2Fuk%2F8.jpg&hash=213049ed5a4199114f7788cca700f5ad0c7141ed)
I'm happy with the images, but if I had to change one thing, it would be the colour. I'd like to see some red in addition to the green.
Indeed that one.
As said, American was different, and in either case the vignetted characters weren't copy-pasted game art.
Doesn't change the fact it isn't original imagery.
Why would it be? It's the inside cover of the original non-gold release, and the vignettes were taken from the original CG publicity renders/Falcon Northwest promo ads, which were original imagery.
Quote from: DoomRulz on Dec 07, 2009, 07:46:38 PM
I'm happy with the images, but if I had to change one thing, it would be the colour. I'd like to see some red in addition to the green.
Too Christmasy?
Similar to this:
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Quote from: Xhan on Dec 07, 2009, 08:50:35 PM
Why would it be? It's the inside cover of the original non-gold release, and the vignettes were taken from the original CG publicity renders/Falcon Northwest promo ads, which were original imagery.
But it's on the actual cover. Using images from the movies = non-original. So, of course, that's laziness. Especially since it was already used for the first edition of the game. And it reflects on the quality of the game.
Point is...original artwork isn't always used. And it doesn't reflect on the games. The franchise has had it's share of this. And I don't see why it's such a problem now.
Meh. Screw everyone, I like it. :D
Me too.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Dec 07, 2009, 11:52:55 PM
Quote from: Xhan on Dec 07, 2009, 08:50:35 PM
Why would it be? It's the inside cover of the original non-gold release, and the vignettes were taken from the original CG publicity renders/Falcon Northwest promo ads, which were original imagery.
But it's on the actual cover. Using images from the movies = non-original. So, of course, that's laziness. Especially since it was already used for the first edition of the game. And it reflects on the quality of the game.
Point is...original artwork isn't always used. And it doesn't reflect on the games. The franchise has had it's share of this. And I don't see why it's such a problem now.
Semantics. Original artwork
was used in the initial release, including the CG portraits, and I would give the A3 release the same verdict even pitted against the cheesy SNES/Famicom cover. The best cover (c64 Aliens) isn't particularly original either, but it got the right pitch right off the bat.
If A:CM has Marine in-game on the right and an Alien on the left, it'll get the same vote.
Quote from: Egg Snatcher on Dec 08, 2009, 01:15:59 AM
Meh. Screw everyone, I like it. :D
I agree, your not gonna please anyone but it works for me. It could be a lot worse and everyone should just be happy that were finally gonna get something good out of the AvP world for the first time in years.
First page (http://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/index.php?topic=27158.0) updated with sighlly diferent versions of the box arts, also with 3D packshots.
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg689.imageshack.us%2Fimg689%2F6891%2Favpg4w3dpackpegi.png&hash=2d9c55ffc82ce76a333b0647a186acb11a787447) (http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/6891/avpg4w3dpackpegi.png)
Quote from: Xhan on Dec 08, 2009, 01:39:16 AM
Semantics. Original artwork was used in the initial release, including the CG portraits, and I would give the A3 release the same verdict even pitted against the cheesy SNES/Famicom cover. The best cover (c64 Aliens) isn't particularly original either, but it got the right pitch right off the bat.
Maybe in your corner of the world but the initial release was the same here. Except tinted orange/red without the words Gold Edition slapped on it.
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.google.co.uk%2Furl%3Fsource%3Dimgres%26amp%3Bct%3Dtbn%26amp%3Bq%3Dhttp%3A%2F%2Fps3clan.nl%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2009%2F02%2Faliens_vs_predator-front.jpg%26amp%3Busg%3DAFQjCNFYx3g0X6bEdPmTkrNaMv435jQvuA&hash=4a7b3923fae6a44bb65563dc9da7e298b40c758b)
I can only be thankful I judge covers on how they look, not the effort put in them. Very eye-catching and I, for one, can't wait to have it sitting on my self.
Do you notice that the same marine occurs twice in the AvP box art? The left-most and the right-most one.
Quote from: ikarop on Dec 08, 2009, 05:24:17 AM
First page (http://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/index.php?topic=27158.0) updated with sighlly diferent versions of the box arts, also with 3D packshots.
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg689.imageshack.us%2Fimg689%2F6891%2Favpg4w3dpackpegi.png&hash=2d9c55ffc82ce76a333b0647a186acb11a787447) (http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/6891/avpg4w3dpackpegi.png)
thanks ikarop looks good !
Is it just me, or does it almost look like the alien has an eye?
It's you man, stop doing drugs :P
Quote from: Eldritch on Dec 08, 2009, 07:53:05 AM
Do you notice that the same marine occurs twice in the AvP box art? The left-most and the right-most one.
no, they`re different models.
however, the one on the right doesn`t actually seem to be holding his gun, his hand is open :S
Quote from: ikarop on Dec 08, 2009, 05:24:17 AM
First page (http://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/index.php?topic=27158.0) updated with sighlly diferent versions of the box arts, also with 3D packshots.
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg689.imageshack.us%2Fimg689%2F6891%2Favpg4w3dpackpegi.png&hash=2d9c55ffc82ce76a333b0647a186acb11a787447) (http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/6891/avpg4w3dpackpegi.png)
I guess PEGI is here to stay. 8)
Quote from: S.Y.L on Dec 08, 2009, 09:33:52 AM
Quote from: Eldritch on Dec 08, 2009, 07:53:05 AM
Do you notice that the same marine occurs twice in the AvP box art? The left-most and the right-most one.
no, they`re different models.
however, the one on the right doesn`t actually seem to be holding his gun, his hand is open :S
Holy shit... You're right... How could they let a little thing like that slip through when they spend this much on a game?
He might be using the force!
Quote from: S.Y.L on Dec 08, 2009, 09:33:52 AM
Quote from: Eldritch on Dec 08, 2009, 07:53:05 AM
Do you notice that the same marine occurs twice in the AvP box art? The left-most and the right-most one.
no, they`re different models.
however, the one on the right doesn`t actually seem to be holding his gun, his hand is open :S
Oh ok, I thought their faces were the same, that small beard and all. Yeah about the hand, it does look weird.. The image is missing one thing... state-of-the-badass-art ;D
It's not final. And really the last thing we need is an eye on the alien. Let's just stick with the 6.
Quote from: S.Y.L on Dec 08, 2009, 09:33:52 AM
Quote from: Eldritch on Dec 08, 2009, 07:53:05 AM
Do you notice that the same marine occurs twice in the AvP box art? The left-most and the right-most one.
no, they`re different models.
however, the one on the right doesn`t actually seem to be holding his gun, his hand is open :S
Sounds like his Anim might be backwards ;)
*Mental note, find hding place from S.Y.L before he comes over to my desk and slaps me ;D*
The soldier could be left handed ;) then again that's a bizarre way to hold a gun.
maybe he is reaching up to hold under the barrell, like a shotgun, and the shot is in the middle of the animation. Prob a fliped image.. i doubt hes a lefty, we get hardly any recognization in games or movies.. :(
Oh no this box art is rubbish! I'm not buying this game now no matter if it comes with a bag of diamonds and a coupon for free blowjobs. :P
They have coupons for that?
Pulling your leg mate, hate to be the bearer of bad news. :P
You sly rascal.
Owwwww. :(
Quoteno, they`re different models.
however, the one on the right doesn`t actually seem to be holding his gun, his hand is open :S
how could i've missed that lol
the pulse rifle doesn't even look like an ingame model
Quote from: Spic on Dec 08, 2009, 02:19:29 PM
Sounds like his Anim might be backwards ;)
*Mental note, find hding place from S.Y.L before he comes over to my desk and slaps me ;D*
ey up yours guy, this was nothing to do with me :P
Are you both at Rebellion or something?
dont suppose any one cares but on the side of the ps3 package shot on the side of the box it just says in plain font aliens vs predator but xbox and pc have the cool fonts that r on the box and trailers the only reason i care is cause i have to get it for ps3 and i like the pc and xbox ones are cool :(
But is it now "actual" boxart or not?
Didn´t see the open hand before either and I doubt it is like that on the final cover.
Quote from: locusta on Dec 08, 2009, 06:26:02 PM
But is it now "actual" boxart or not?
Didn´t see the open hand before either and I doubt it is like that on the final cover.
you`d be surprised the number of howlers that occur in any situation where work is being done away from the main project. these things happen, but it WOULD be nice if there was time to fix it. don`t hold your breath though.
:D tell me about pressure at work....
I know what and how many times it can happen and how sad it is, when there are even people involved who are fine with the second choice of a design.
Whatever the box art looks like I'm pretty sure I'll like it. I just have a feeling. So far I love the current boxart. It looks like it would stand out quite well amongst other games and for the most part I don't spend a whole lot of time looking at the cover anyway. I usually spend my time playing it. ;D
Since we're nitpicking details from the cover, and about the "hand" thingy... notice that the marine in the middle actually holds the weapon with his LEFT arm. What if the other guy also holds it with his left arm, and is simply....."doing something else" with his right arm :P
Still doesn't look quite "right", and should be fixed.
It's not a case of the hand not being closed, his hand isn't actually on the handle at all, he's resting the gun against his hand at the point where the clip is, and I would imagine the butt of the gun is resting against the inside of his elbow.
It might not look quite "right", but it also looks deliberate.
Guys it's just box art xD
Quote from: draken161 on Dec 09, 2009, 07:38:06 AM
Guys it's just box art xD
Yesh! Leave Britney alone!
Quote from: Insomniac on Dec 08, 2009, 10:46:59 PM
It's not a case of the hand not being closed, his hand isn't actually on the handle at all, he's resting the gun against his hand at the point where the clip is, and I would imagine the butt of the gun is resting against the inside of his elbow.
It might not look quite "right", but it also looks deliberate.
really? to me it just looks wrong i`m afraid, like they haven`t posed the hand at all :(
The box-art is ok, is decent but not awesome! At least it shows the Marines.
I admit I would have preferred a good painting though!
With news of the European versions having different editions, I imagine the covers will look different.
Good job this is the UK version and I can enjoy it then. :)
looks awesome cantwait to play ;D