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Title: Aliens vs Predator: Rift War (2022)
Post by: felix on Oct 16, 2021, 10:32:26 PM
Weston Osche has this coming in June 2022.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/1789098440/ref=sr_1_15?keywords=titan+books&qid=1634423431&s=books&sr=1-15

When the Predators choose LV-363 for a hunt and seed it with Xenomorph eggs, the result is bizarre alien hybrids and humans trapped between the Predators and their prey.

The planet LV-363 teems with exotic life, including a plant growing in the shadows of its deep rifts. The plant's flower yields a valuable narcotic, and people are forced by the cartels to harvest it. When a Yautja (Predator) ship arrives for a hunting ritual, the Predators seed the rifts with Xenomorph eggs. The aliens emerge and the result is bizarre and deadly hybrids, with humans trapped between the Predators and their prey. These deadly Xenomorph hybrids—some of which possess the ability to fly—swarm out of control and may prove more than either the Yautja or the humans can defeat.
Title: Re: Aliens vs Predator: Rift War (2022)
Post by: Kradan on Oct 16, 2021, 10:40:34 PM
- They fly now ?

- They fly now!
Title: Re: Aliens vs Predator: Rift War (2022)
Post by: 426Buddy on Oct 16, 2021, 11:17:44 PM
......ffs....
Title: Re: Aliens vs Predator: Rift War (2022)
Post by: SiL on Oct 16, 2021, 11:23:39 PM
...I just want Aliens fighting Predators is that too much to ask?
Title: Re: Aliens vs Predator: Rift War (2022)
Post by: BlueMarsalis79 on Oct 16, 2021, 11:44:44 PM
Yes apparently, we must have dumb shit attached, every single f**king time.

And with the mediocrity of Infiltrator, this' one to look forward to.
Title: Re: Aliens vs Predator: Rift War (2022)
Post by: Stitch on Oct 17, 2021, 12:39:33 AM
No Ripleys? Might check it out.
Title: Re: Aliens vs Predator: Rift War (2022)
Post by: 426Buddy on Oct 17, 2021, 01:03:07 AM
Quote from: SiL on Oct 16, 2021, 11:23:39 PM
...I just want Aliens fighting Predators is that too much to ask?

Quote from: Trash Queen on Oct 16, 2021, 11:44:44 PM
Yes apparently, we must have dumb shit attached, every single f**king time.

This this and so much this! Ffs
Title: Re: Aliens vs Predator: Rift War (2022)
Post by: Samhain13 on Oct 17, 2021, 01:55:38 AM
HAHAHA if they are gonna pull something like that then make it on a game so we have more alien variants to kill than on a novel.
Title: Re: Aliens vs Predator: Rift War (2022)
Post by: Xiggz456 on Oct 17, 2021, 01:53:11 PM
Damn another AVP novel! Wow I guess AVP is back en Vogue over at Titan. Looking forward to it!
Title: Re: Aliens vs Predator: Rift War (2022)
Post by: Nightmare Asylum on Oct 17, 2021, 03:11:18 PM
Oh dear.
Title: Re: Aliens vs Predator: Rift War (2022)
Post by: Kradan on Oct 17, 2021, 03:48:28 PM
So, now we're getting Alien: Colony WAR and AvP: Rift WAR ? So much WAR around

Not to mention we alredy had AvP Rage WAR trilogy

And Aliens: Earth/Female WAR. Aaaaand AvP: Three World WAR. And just AvP: WAR.

Is there any WAR I missed ?
Title: Re: Aliens vs Predator: Rift War (2022)
Post by: Xiggz456 on Oct 17, 2021, 04:07:30 PM
Weird that we have a release date for this novel but don't have a date for AVP: Annihilation which was teased in the Gibson novelization.
Title: Re: Aliens vs Predator: Rift War (2022)
Post by: Wweyland on Oct 17, 2021, 08:01:22 PM
Alien hybrids? Well thats a switch. At least we get a new AvP book.
Title: Re: Aliens vs Predator: Rift War (2022)
Post by: Voodoo Magic on Oct 17, 2021, 09:22:54 PM
New "Aliens vs. Predators: Rift War" Novel is Coming June 2022
https://www.avpgalaxy.net/2021/10/17/new-aliens-vs-predators-rift-war-novel-is-coming-june-2022/
Title: Re: Aliens vs Predator: Rift War (2022)
Post by: RidgeTop on Oct 17, 2021, 09:35:46 PM
Sounds interesting to me, and it's good to see AvP getting a bit more media.

Personally don't have a problem with flying Aliens, there's precedent for them such as DNA War, well flying facehuggers anyway. Also liked how they looked in the arcade games:

(https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/alienspredatoraliens-versus-predator/images/9/9b/Flying_xeno2.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20180724000348&path-prefix=hu)

(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/KAHC2I3aVR8/maxresdefault.jpg)
Title: Re: Aliens vs Predator: Rift War (2022)
Post by: SiL on Oct 17, 2021, 09:43:13 PM
Flying Aliens aren't new, but I actually like Aliens and kind of don't need them to get super powers to remain interesting every other book, y'know?

EDIT

That said the EU is the place for this and I'm just getting a grumpy bitch :laugh:
Title: Re: Aliens vs Predator: Rift War (2022)
Post by: Kradan on Oct 17, 2021, 10:24:31 PM
Quote from: Kradan on Oct 17, 2021, 03:48:28 PM
So, now we're getting Alien: Colony WAR and AvP: Rift WAR ? So much WAR around

Not to mention we alredy had AvP Rage WAR trilogy

And Aliens: Earth/Female WAR. Aaaaand AvP: Three World WAR. And just AvP: WAR.

Is there any WAR I missed ?

Quote from: RidgeTop on Oct 17, 2021, 09:35:46 PM
DNA War

That's the WAR I've missed  :D

Title: Re: Aliens vs Predator: Rift War (2022)
Post by: RidgeTop on Oct 17, 2021, 10:43:54 PM
Quote from: Kradan on Oct 17, 2021, 10:24:31 PM
That's the WAR I've missed  :D

Haha, didn't even realize I helped ya out there, so much war!

Quote from: SiL on Oct 17, 2021, 09:43:13 PM
Flying Aliens aren't new, but I actually like Aliens and kind of don't need them to get super powers to remain interesting every other book, y'know?

EDIT

That said the EU is the place for this and I'm just getting a grumpy bitch :laugh:

Yeah don't get me wrong, I'm no fan of the whole "bigger, badder" trope, but with the Xenos I do enjoy seeing some DNA reflex in action.
Title: Re: Aliens vs Predator: Rift War (2022)
Post by: BlueMarsalis79 on Oct 17, 2021, 10:51:25 PM
If he can make it useful, like in Aliens Phalanx, I'm all for it. As with the so called "vert-a-voot"

But otherwise?

Not the biggest fan.
Title: Re: Aliens vs Predator: Rift War (2022)
Post by: Some Old Dude on Oct 18, 2021, 12:02:01 AM
I can't wait for Phil "Deutsch" Shaeffer, Nick Harrigan, Steve Van Luen, Wayne Hicks and Oswoldo Ripley-McClaren to avenge their ancestors.
Title: Re: Aliens vs Predator: Rift War (2022)
Post by: Mr.Turok on Oct 18, 2021, 02:56:04 AM
Sounds terribly generic, very disappointing. Maybe it will be written well but damm its sad that its just another run of the mill story of humans trapped in the middle of a ritual hunt again.
Title: Re: Aliens vs Predator: Rift War (2022)
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Oct 18, 2021, 05:33:06 AM
Quote from: Xiggz456 on Oct 17, 2021, 04:07:30 PM
Weird that we have a release date for this novel but don't have a date for AVP: Annihilation which was teased in the Gibson novelization.

Spoiler
Don't hold your breath
[close]


Just updated the main post to include mention of Yvonne Navarro. Both Navarro and Ochse are writing this one. Not the first husband and wife team we've seen on an Alien novel. I'm curious to see how this one turns out - Music of the Spears is one of my favourite Alien novels. Also worth noting, Titan is sticking to Aliens vs. Predators again .
Title: Re: Aliens vs Predator: Rift War (2022)
Post by: SiL on Oct 18, 2021, 05:35:21 AM
Yvonne's back?

f**king sold, Music of the Spears was one of my favourites.
Title: Re: Aliens vs Predator: Rift War (2022)
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Oct 18, 2021, 05:35:59 AM
Quote from: RidgeTop on Oct 17, 2021, 10:43:54 PM
Quote from: Kradan on Oct 17, 2021, 10:24:31 PM
That's the WAR I've missed  :D

Haha, didn't even realize I helped ya out there, so much war!

Quote from: SiL on Oct 17, 2021, 09:43:13 PM
Flying Aliens aren't new, but I actually like Aliens and kind of don't need them to get super powers to remain interesting every other book, y'know?

EDIT

That said the EU is the place for this and I'm just getting a grumpy bitch :laugh:

Yeah don't get me wrong, I'm no fan of the whole "bigger, badder" trope, but with the Xenos I do enjoy seeing some DNA reflex in action.

It's kinda funny - we went so long without the DNA reflex being toyed with at all, to a f**king lot of it lately. Nothing wrong with it IMHO. Just depends on execution.
Title: Re: Aliens vs Predator: Rift War (2022)
Post by: Wweyland on Oct 18, 2021, 07:20:49 AM
Also, this has a good chance of another Human-Predator team-up at the end.
Title: Re: Aliens vs Predator: Rift War (2022)
Post by: Bughuntwilson on Oct 18, 2021, 01:08:52 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Oct 18, 2021, 05:33:06 AM
Quote from: Xiggz456 on Oct 17, 2021, 04:07:30 PM
Weird that we have a release date for this novel but don't have a date for AVP: Annihilation which was teased in the Gibson novelization.


Spoiler
Don't hold your breath
[close]


Just updated the main post to include mention of Yvonne Navarro. Both Navarro and Ochse are writing this one. Not the first husband and wife team we've seen on an Alien novel. I'm curious to see how this one turns out - Music of the Spears is one of my favourite Alien novels. Also worth noting, Titan is sticking to Aliens vs. Predators again .
Avp anhilatiohn was cancelled?
Title: Re: Aliens vs Predator: Rift War (2022)
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Oct 18, 2021, 03:14:22 PM
I can't say anything else.
Title: Re: Aliens vs Predator: Rift War (2022)
Post by: Xiggz456 on Oct 18, 2021, 03:16:14 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Oct 18, 2021, 05:33:06 AM
Quote from: Xiggz456 on Oct 17, 2021, 04:07:30 PM
Weird that we have a release date for this novel but don't have a date for AVP: Annihilation which was teased in the Gibson novelization.

Spoiler
Don't hold your breath
[close]


Just updated the main post to include mention of Yvonne Navarro. Both Navarro and Ochse are writing this one. Not the first husband and wife team we've seen on an Alien novel. I'm curious to see how this one turns out - Music of the Spears is one of my favourite Alien novels. Also worth noting, Titan is sticking to Aliens vs. Predators again .

Wait what??? Did our collective trepidation for a Shirley AVP novel give Titan pause? I need answers lol
Title: Re: Aliens vs Predator: Rift War (2022)
Post by: 426Buddy on Oct 18, 2021, 03:48:55 PM
Must be canceled  :laugh:
Title: Re: Aliens vs Predator: Rift War (2022)
Post by: Bughuntwilson on Oct 18, 2021, 03:52:49 PM
Quote from: 426Buddy on Oct 18, 2021, 03:48:55 PM
Must be canceled  :laugh:
No it can't be :'(
Title: Re: Aliens vs Predator: Rift War (2022)
Post by: Stitch on Oct 18, 2021, 05:49:27 PM
Quote from: SiL on Oct 18, 2021, 05:35:21 AM
Yvonne's back?

f**king sold, Music of the Spears was one of my favourites.
seconded
Title: Re: Aliens vs Predator: Rift War (2022)
Post by: VeteranSergeant on Oct 18, 2021, 08:43:44 PM
Quote from: Trash Queen on Oct 16, 2021, 11:44:44 PM
Yes apparently, we must have dumb shit attached, every single f**king time.

And with the mediocrity of Infiltrator, this' one to look forward to.
One half of this author team is the guy who wrote the exceedingly slow paced and blandly boilerplate Aliens: Infiltrator, and the other half is his wife, the one who wrote that absurdly stupid short story in the Bug Hunt anthology about Hicks' previously-unmentioned wife who died to the Aliens, but Hicks never mentioned anything about her or knowing of the existence of hostile, dangerous Aliens that slaughtered his entire previous squad, and instead seemed thoroughly unimpressed by the idea of another "bug hunt."

Might as well accept this is going to be a dumpster fire.

As far as flying Aliens, inherently not a terrible idea, but they're probably going to fly via Tyranid Magic, rather than physics.  Every flying species we've ever known, going back to the dinosaurs, had tremendous wingspan to body mass ratios. A flying Alien would theoretically have to be pretty small with giant wings, and wouldn't have a very thick carapace. To be able to also to do any heavy lifting like carrying off the weight of a full sized man?  It would be gigantic. the pteranodon with its 6m wingspan is estimated to not weigh more than 60 to 70 pounds.

A cool *idea*, but depends how much science you like in your science fiction.
Title: Re: Aliens vs Predator: Rift War (2022)
Post by: GreybackElder on Oct 18, 2021, 10:15:45 PM
I loved the rage war trilogy. I hope this one lives up to the that? I like the idea of the DNA reflex being toyed with. To be fair the story its seems like it's pretty generic. How many AVP novels have the same trope. Ritual hunt + aliens + colonists.  = AVP.  What I absolutely loved about Tim Lebbon's rage war trilogy it's scope. It expanded across the whole galaxy with focus on characters on spaceships, space stations and planets. I feel like going back to a colony is a step backwards.
Title: Re: Aliens vs Predator: Rift War (2022)
Post by: Some Old Dude on Oct 19, 2021, 06:00:28 AM
True to my luck the paperback Omni that has the Music of the Spears novelisation is out of print. I'll have to check out the comic book version on the Vol 2 omnibus.
Title: Re: Aliens vs Predator: Rift War (2022)
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Oct 19, 2021, 07:29:59 AM
Quote from: VeteranSergeant on Oct 18, 2021, 08:43:44 PM
Quote from: Trash Queen on Oct 16, 2021, 11:44:44 PM
Yes apparently, we must have dumb shit attached, every single f**king time.

And with the mediocrity of Infiltrator, this' one to look forward to.
One half of this author team is the guy who wrote the exceedingly slow paced and blandly boilerplate Aliens: Infiltrator, and the other half is his wife, the one who wrote that absurdly stupid short story in the Bug Hunt anthology about Hicks' previously-unmentioned wife who died to the Aliens, but Hicks never mentioned anything about her or knowing of the existence of hostile, dangerous Aliens that slaughtered his entire previous squad, and instead seemed thoroughly unimpressed by the idea of another "bug hunt."

Might as well accept this is going to be a dumpster fire.

As much as I dislike the mentioned stories above, they did write other entries - Weston wrote a great short in If It Bleeds and Yvonne's Music of the Spears is one of my top 5 Alien novels. She's also writing a short in the AvP anthology so we'll see that one soon too.
Title: Re: Aliens vs Predator: Rift War (2022)
Post by: Kradan on Oct 19, 2021, 04:29:09 PM
Quote from: GreybackElder on Oct 18, 2021, 10:15:45 PM
I loved the rage war trilogy. ... What I absolutely loved about Tim Lebbon's rage war trilogy it's scope. It expanded across the whole galaxy with focus on characters on spaceships, space stations and planets.

(https://c.tenor.com/FyFr6eyrCaYAAAAM/i-love-you.gif)
Title: Re: Aliens vs Predator: Rift War (2022)
Post by: [cancerblack] on Oct 19, 2021, 07:35:19 PM
Quote from: VeteranSergeant on Oct 18, 2021, 08:43:44 PM
As far as flying Aliens, inherently not a terrible idea, but they're probably going to fly via Tyranid Magic, rather than physics.  Every flying species we've ever known, going back to the dinosaurs, had tremendous wingspan to body mass ratios. A flying Alien would theoretically have to be pretty small with giant wings, and wouldn't have a very thick carapace. To be able to also to do any heavy lifting like carrying off the weight of a full sized man?  It would be gigantic. the pteranodon with its 6m wingspan is estimated to not weigh more than 60 to 70 pounds.

Keep in mind that being comparatively small/light doesn't prevent being hyper-dangerous. Haast's Eagle, which weighed about 15kg and had a 3m wingspan, was "able to kill adult moa weighing up to 230 kilograms". There's a lot of scope to make it work.

But you're probably right in regards to how it'll be handwaved.
Title: Re: Aliens vs Predator: Rift War (2022)
Post by: VeteranSergeant on Oct 19, 2021, 08:26:06 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Oct 19, 2021, 07:29:59 AMAs much as I dislike the mentioned stories above, they did write other entries - Weston wrote a great short in If It Bleeds and Yvonne's Music of the Spears is one of my top 5 Alien novels. She's also writing a short in the AvP anthology so we'll see that one soon too.
Maybe, but she didn't actually write the story for Music of the Spears, she adapted and wrote the novelization it.  The story for Music of the Spears was written by Chet Williamson, so all the conceptual heavy lifting was done by him. 

My only hope is that she didn't originally write that short in Bug Hunt with Hicks as the central character, and that was an editorial change down the line, which is a possibility. There seems to have been a lot of shoehorning in that anthology to get characters from the film in there. And I mean, the Dan Abnett story is 100% an unused Imperial Guard story he had lying around, with all the 40K elements taken out and replaced with Colonial Marines references, lol.

Though either way, Reclamation is not really a very good story. But, in fairness, military fiction might be out of her wheelhouse and she writes better characters and stories in other frameworks.
Title: Re: Aliens vs Predator: Rift War (2022)
Post by: Kradan on Oct 19, 2021, 08:48:29 PM
Quote from: VeteranSergeant on Oct 19, 2021, 08:26:06 PM
Maybe, but she didn't actually write the story for Music of the Spears, she adapted and wrote the novelization it.  The story for Music of the Spears was written by Chet Williamson, so all the conceptual heavy lifting was done by him. 

This
Title: Re: Aliens vs Predator: Rift War (2022)
Post by: SiL on Oct 19, 2021, 10:42:32 PM
The novelisation was still well written and fleshed out in interesting and creative ways. It's a bit disingenuous to dismiss the quality of the piece because somebody else wrote the foundation.
Title: Re: Aliens vs Predator: Rift War (2022)
Post by: Some Old Dude on Oct 20, 2021, 02:36:46 AM
Quote from: VeteranSergeant on Oct 19, 2021, 08:26:06 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Oct 19, 2021, 07:29:59 AMAs much as I dislike the mentioned stories above, they did write other entries - Weston wrote a great short in If It Bleeds and Yvonne's Music of the Spears is one of my top 5 Alien novels. She's also writing a short in the AvP anthology so we'll see that one soon too.
Maybe, but she didn't actually write the story for Music of the Spears, she adapted and wrote the novelization it.  The story for Music of the Spears was written by Chet Williamson, so all the conceptual heavy lifting was done by him. 


F*****g Chet.

(https://imgur.com/a/USgd7rj)
Title: Re: Aliens vs Predator: Rift War (2022)
Post by: [cancerblack] on Oct 20, 2021, 07:50:43 AM
Do you mean the writer or the fugly Predalien?
Title: Re: Aliens vs Predator: Rift War (2022)
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Oct 20, 2021, 07:54:27 AM
Quote from: SiL on Oct 19, 2021, 10:42:32 PM
The novelisation was still well written and fleshed out in interesting and creative ways. It's a bit disingenuous to dismiss the quality of the piece because somebody else wrote the foundation.

Indeed. They don't just write out the comics - they expand on it. There's more going off than just describing the events of the panels and re-writing the dialogue. I disliked Reclamation myself - largely because of how highly I held Music - but it being adaptation takes nothing away from her.
Title: Re: Aliens vs Predator: Rift War (2022)
Post by: Voodoo Magic on Oct 20, 2021, 09:06:36 PM
I'm just hoping for the best and excited we're getting some more AvP media!
Title: Re: Aliens vs Predator: Rift War (2022)
Post by: Wweyland on Oct 21, 2021, 07:24:31 AM
AvP stuff is good while the Predator content is on a bit of a pause.
Title: Re: Aliens vs Predator: Rift War (2022)
Post by: [cancerblack] on Oct 21, 2021, 07:32:29 AM
Learn the way of the RPG and the stories will never end.
Title: Re: Aliens vs Predator: Rift War (2022)
Post by: SiL on Oct 21, 2021, 08:03:35 AM
That's just fan fiction with extra steps!
Title: Re: Aliens vs Predator: Rift War (2022)
Post by: [cancerblack] on Oct 21, 2021, 09:32:02 AM
Not quite, fan-fic is something that (generally) the creator expects other people to give attention to. A one shot with the lads and plenty of beer is a great adventure but is never thrust upon the community at large.
Title: Re: Aliens vs Predator: Rift War (2022)
Post by: Some Old Dude on Oct 21, 2021, 09:47:28 AM
Quote from: [cancerblack] on Oct 20, 2021, 07:50:43 AM
Do you mean the writer or the fugly Predalien?

You could take it either way, it was a reference to The Nice Guys. I'd posted an image of Ryan Gosling to go with it, but I don't think I have enough clout to post images just yet lol.
Title: Re: Aliens vs Predator: Rift War (2022)
Post by: VeteranSergeant on Oct 21, 2021, 05:56:16 PM
Quote from: SiL on Oct 19, 2021, 10:42:32 PM
The novelisation was still well written and fleshed out in interesting and creative ways. It's a bit disingenuous to dismiss the quality of the piece because somebody else wrote the foundation.
You're misunderstanding me. The heavy lifting in a good novel is the concept: the plot and characters. The rest of it is just grunt work, pounding out the word count.  Music of the Spears was a complete story already, where she was just filling in the gaps and describing in words that which had been told in pictures in the comic. Perhaps adding some expanding dialog. And it takes skill to write well, but it is an entirely different skill from coming up with a story idea and characters.

On the other hand, in theory, the short story in the Bug Hunt anthology was completely her idea, and it was a bad idea.  You can't write a good novel on bad ideas. 

So sure, maybe her novelization of Music of the Spears was great. I haven't read it since it came out. But that still wasn't her story. It was Chet Williamson's. Whatever this Rift War ends up as, it appears to be an original story by her and her husband, and will have to stand or fall on the merit of those ideas.
Title: Re: Aliens vs Predator: Rift War (2022)
Post by: 426Buddy on Oct 21, 2021, 06:22:04 PM
I can see you're not a writer.

I get your point but making a good adaption not as simple or easy as you make it sound. Certainly not "grunt work" and certainly requires more than just describing what was in the comic panels.
Title: Re: Aliens vs Predator: Rift War (2022)
Post by: SiL on Oct 21, 2021, 07:48:39 PM
Quote from: VeteranSergeant on Oct 21, 2021, 05:56:16 PM
You're misunderstanding me. The heavy lifting in a good novel is the concept: the plot and characters. The rest of it is just grunt work, pounding out the word count. 
That word count is what takes the concept to execution - it's not nothing, it's everything. There are plenty of stories with great concepts and just execrable handling that makes them unreadable.

On the flip side I've read plenty of stories where I disliked the concept but the writing was so good I didn't care.

Quote from: 426Buddy on Oct 21, 2021, 06:22:04 PM
I get your point but making a good adaption not as simple or easy as you make it sound.
One only needs to look at terrible adaptations of great source material to see there's a lot of skill and conceptual heavy lifting needed to adapt stories between mediums.
Title: Re: Aliens vs Predator: Rift War (2022)
Post by: [cancerblack] on Oct 21, 2021, 07:50:35 PM
Quote from: Some Old Dude on Oct 21, 2021, 09:47:28 AM
Quote from: [cancerblack] on Oct 20, 2021, 07:50:43 AM
Do you mean the writer or the fugly Predalien?

You could take it either way, it was a reference to The Nice Guys. I'd posted an image of Ryan Gosling to go with it, but I don't think I have enough clout to post images just yet lol.

You can post images at any point, but if it's from a wiki site it will never show up.
Title: Re: Aliens vs Predator: Rift War (2022)
Post by: VeteranSergeant on Oct 22, 2021, 09:53:40 PM
Quote from: SiL on Oct 21, 2021, 07:48:39 PM
Quote from: VeteranSergeant on Oct 21, 2021, 05:56:16 PM
You're misunderstanding me. The heavy lifting in a good novel is the concept: the plot and characters. The rest of it is just grunt work, pounding out the word count. 
That word count is what takes the concept to execution - it's not nothing, it's everything.
Well, that's not true, even in the slightest, when it comes to writing the novelization for a comic book. 

The concept has already been executed. Music of the Spears was a finished story, all of it created by Chet Williamson.

There's a reason why there's no Hugo, or nor any other major literary awards for novelizations.

Quote from: 426Buddy on Oct 21, 2021, 06:22:04 PM
I can see you're not a writer.
I'm probably one of the only people here who has ever been paid to write and publish anything, lol. Literally had something published this week.  That's neither here nor there, though it's embarrassing for you.

I'm not shitting on novelizations or the art of crafting them. You guys are welcome to quibble on and on about how hard it is to write the words. She still didn't create the story for Music of the Spears any more than Alan Dean Foster wrote the stories for the original Alien trilogy, or Star Wars, for that matter.
Title: Re: Aliens vs Predator: Rift War (2022)
Post by: SiL on Oct 22, 2021, 10:20:10 PM
Quote from: VeteranSergeant on Oct 22, 2021, 09:53:40 PM
Well, that's not true, even in the slightest, when it comes to writing the novelization for a comic book. 

The concept has already been executed.
As a comic, not a novel. It really doesn't matter whether the idea started as a dot outline or a comic or a movie or a screenplay, the novel itself still lives and dies by the strength of its ability to execute that story in its own medium. You can't just vaguely describe what's in the comic panels and slap "he said" or "she thought" after speech bubbles and call it a day.

QuoteThere's a reason why there's no Hugo, or nor any other major literary awards for novelizations.
Ah, award eligibility, the only true measure of an artwork's legitimacy  :laugh:
Title: Re: Aliens vs Predator: Rift War (2022)
Post by: Some Old Dude on Oct 22, 2021, 10:33:58 PM
Quote from: [cancerblack] on Oct 21, 2021, 07:50:35 PM

You can post images at any point, but if it's from a wiki site it will never show up.

No I always make sure to upload images and post them via my imgur account. It's just me being a boomer.
Title: Re: Aliens vs Predator: Rift War (2022)
Post by: BlueMarsalis79 on Oct 23, 2021, 07:46:00 PM
Imgur's good when it actually loads.
Title: Re: Aliens vs Predator: Rift War (2022)
Post by: felix on Nov 05, 2021, 10:08:41 PM
Amazon says Yvonne Navarro is writing this as well.
Title: Re: Aliens vs Predator: Rift War (2022)
Post by: BlueMarsalis79 on Nov 06, 2021, 02:51:02 PM
Hm interesting.
Title: Re: Aliens vs Predator: Rift War (2022)
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Nov 06, 2021, 04:17:17 PM
(I said this pages ago)  :P
Title: Re: Aliens vs Predator: Rift War (2022)
Post by: felix on Feb 19, 2022, 10:46:22 AM
Cover art is up!

https://bnccatalist.ca/ViewTitle.aspx?id=39349028


Title: Re: Aliens vs Predator: Rift War (2022)
Post by: Kradan on Feb 19, 2022, 11:03:00 AM
Bitching and moaning in 3,2,1
Title: Re: Aliens vs Predator: Rift War (2022)
Post by: SiL on Feb 19, 2022, 11:12:16 AM
No I actually like that they're using the AvP promotional assets. As lazy photoshops go it's not awful.
Title: Re: Aliens vs Predator: Rift War (2022)
Post by: Kailem on Feb 19, 2022, 11:41:01 AM
Oh yeah, there have been faaaaaar worse photoshop jobs than that. At least the use of imagery is consistent here, rather than feeling arbitrarily slapped together like some of the other covers have.
Title: Re: Aliens vs Predator: Rift War (2022)
Post by: Kradan on Feb 19, 2022, 11:46:56 AM
Reverse psychology my ass
Title: Re: Aliens vs Predator: Rift War (2022)
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Feb 19, 2022, 12:11:09 PM
They could have applied a layer over the top to try and make the Alien and Predator both have the same colour tone though. But as the others have said - not the worse. Still poor.
Title: Re: Aliens vs Predator: Rift War (2022)
Post by: 426Buddy on Feb 19, 2022, 12:55:39 PM
Yeah not digging it... it could be worse sure, but god d*mn just pay an artist for some original art ffs.
Title: Re: Aliens vs Predator: Rift War (2022)
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Mar 17, 2022, 06:41:34 AM
This looks to have been pushed back to August 16th.
Title: Re: Aliens vs Predator: Rift War (2022)
Post by: Voodoo Magic on Mar 17, 2022, 02:40:57 PM
*sigh*

So many wonderful fledgling digital paint artists out there that surely can be hired at affordable pricing, hungry for just the Resume notch alone...
Title: Re: Aliens vs Predator: Rift War (2022)
Post by: NoStyleDutch on Mar 18, 2022, 10:19:35 PM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Mar 17, 2022, 02:40:57 PM
*sigh*

So many wonderful fledgling digital paint artists out there that surely can be hired at affordable pricing, hungry for just the Resume notch alone...

Why hire an artist when you have pictures and fonts from  2004? 😕
Title: Re: Aliens vs Predator: Rift War (2022)
Post by: VN1X on Apr 05, 2022, 04:01:14 PM
Oh wow I completely missed this news (and accompanying thread!). Glad to see Weston returning to this universe as I really enjoyed Infiltrator. Hopefully he'll continue that same tone in terms of his human characters as they were really interesting and well realized I thought.

The title and cover art are both horrendous obviously. :P