Two ALIEN TV Shows in the works (Rumour)

Started by Gazz, Feb 13, 2019, 11:17:16 PM

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Mando

Mando

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I'm all for an Alien tv series, but I hope we'll get something continuing the story and concepts of Prometheus/Covenant.

Nightmare Asylum

Quote from: Mando on Dec 02, 2020, 04:13:25 PM
I'm all for an Alien tv series, but I hope we'll get something continuing the story and concepts of Prometheus/Covenant.

Very much agreed, on both counts.

seattle24

Is this news in any way relatable to the scoop this site has? I appreciate you probably can't say one way or another out of respect for your source - so probably a stupid question  ;D just seemed when Hicks announced in the Predator thread Alien is still alive it sounded concrete, whereas this sounds "talkative".

Either way, TV series? Lovely. Get Odd studios back for the creature effects while you're at it!

RidgeTop

Quote from: seattle24 on Dec 02, 2020, 05:01:32 PM
Is this news in any way relatable to the scoop this site has? I appreciate you probably can't say one way or another out of respect for your source - so probably a stupid question  ;D just seemed when Hicks announced in the Predator thread Alien is still alive it sounded concrete, whereas this sounds "talkative".

Either way, TV series? Lovely. Get Odd studios back for the creature effects while you're at it!

We know the answer to that question but cannot confirm or deny.

And yes it would be nice to have Odd Studios back, just don't slather CGI over most of their creature work this time! Or Weta Workshop, or ADI (:p), honestly which creature shop would get it would depend on where filming would be happening.

Nightmare Asylum

I'd be all for ADI. Their work in Alien 3 and Alien: Resurrection is great (though of course, only appropriate within the confines of those specific movies... I'm looking at you, Alien vs Predator ::)), and while I don't care for Blomkamp's concept at all, what we've seen of the concepts for that film (including the silly four-armed maquette) it seems like they would have done a solid job recreating something more like Giger's original there.

Odd would be great as well, if they do go the man in suit mode. Though I do kind of expect to see something more akin to Alien: Covenant, what with an on-set reference suit that is mostly replaced with a digital creature for the final product.

Quote from: RidgeTop on Dec 02, 2020, 08:32:29 PM
We know the answer to that question but cannot confirm or deny.

The whole AVPG staff right now:


seattle24

Quote from: RidgeTop on Dec 02, 2020, 08:32:29 PM
Quote from: seattle24 on Dec 02, 2020, 05:01:32 PM
Is this news in any way relatable to the scoop this site has? I appreciate you probably can't say one way or another out of respect for your source - so probably a stupid question  ;D just seemed when Hicks announced in the Predator thread Alien is still alive it sounded concrete, whereas this sounds "talkative".

Either way, TV series? Lovely. Get Odd studios back for the creature effects while you're at it!

We know the answer to that question but cannot confirm or deny.

And yes it would be nice to have Odd Studios back, just don't slather CGI over most of their creature work this time! Or Weta Workshop, or ADI (:p), honestly which creature shop would get it would depend on where filming would be happening.

Haha! I can wait... so long as there is a meaty 3-hour podcast to accompany the announcement when or if it does happen?  :P

Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Dec 02, 2020, 10:43:28 PM
I'd be all for ADI. Their work in Alien 3 and Alien: Resurrection is great (though of course, only appropriate within the confines of those specific movies... I'm looking at you, Alien vs Predator ::)), and while I don't care for Blomkamp's concept at all, what we've seen of the concepts for that film (including the silly four-armed maquette) it seems like they would have done a solid job recreating something more like Giger's original there.

Odd would be great as well, if they do go the man in suit mode. Though I do kind of expect to see something more akin to Alien: Covenant, what with an on-set reference suit that is mostly replaced with a digital creature for the final product.

Quote from: RidgeTop on Dec 02, 2020, 08:32:29 PM
We know the answer to that question but cannot confirm or deny.

The whole AVPG staff right now:

https://64.media.tumblr.com/68cdff2ebf2f2b425512d3148ff85e48/tumblr_p5jn3pmCq11vigpn1o7_500.gifv

I've said it before and I maintain my stance, Tom and Alec appear to be lovely guys. Their work on Alien 3 is elite. But I would argue the design of the Alien in Resurrection is very poor, and I understand the genetic mutation, and the purposeful design choices, but it's all subjective to your own set of eyes - and I really dislike the design. I won't waste breath on the creature work in AvP.

I was really impressed with Odd in Covenant, though, even if much of their practical work was relegated in favour of CGI. The Alien "on stilts" was really innovative in my opinion. And putting the guy from REC in the suit was inspired.

Nightmare Asylum

I'd definitely agree that Resurrection has the weakest Alien design of the proper Alien films, though I do personally like it quite a bit within the context of the film.

But I more so meant the actual craftsmanship of the suit, and the execution of it on set, as proof of their abilities. The design, on the other hand, I would attribute more directly to Jean-Pierre Jeunet, who gave them the guidelines for what he was looking for in the design and approved that final rendition of it.

If ADI was working with a director who wanted to do something more Giger-esque, I have no doubt in my mind that they would deliver on it.

Lost_Hunter

I'd be super down for a show, as long as it was good. You would need a big budget for the sets though. There are rules to the design of Alien and they should be followed. That doesn't mean there's not room to grow but you have to honor the aesthetic.

Y'all keep pulling for ADI and I just don't get it. Maybe they could do a better suit but who gives a shit? Design aside I'm just going on the films they've worked on. This is not aimed at their 2-D artists or sculptors.

RidgeTop

Quote from: Lost_Hunter on Dec 03, 2020, 01:18:50 AM
I'd be super down for a show, as long as it was good. You would need a big budget for the sets though. There are rules to the design of Alien and they should be followed. That doesn't mean there's not room to grow but you have to honor the aesthetic.

Y'all keep pulling for ADI and I just don't get it. Maybe they could do a better suit but who gives a shit? Design aside I'm just going on the films they've worked on. This is not aimed at their 2-D artists or sculptors.

Honestly it's mostly just me who's the ADI cheerleader, our staff have disagreements about whether or not they should get another gig. But I don't place their work above any of the other practical creature FX studios that have been involved in the franchise, any of the major ones would do a nice job I'm sure.

Also high production value sci-fi series have become much more accessible these days. The Unreal Engine live-action virtual sets utilized by The Mandalorian are a good example. That show has an excellent blend of practical and digital effects.


Lost_Hunter

I appreciate that RidgeTop. The second season of Mandalorian is crazy with what they've been able to achieve. Definitely groundbreaking. That kind of production would be incredible with Alien.

Perfect-Organism

Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Dec 02, 2020, 10:42:22 AM
Quote from: Prez on Dec 02, 2020, 10:26:24 AM
Go the Fargo route. A whole season dedicated to one storyline then a new one the next season. Heck I'd even be up for a new story each episode.

I think longer, season long arcs would be the way to go. Longer-form storytelling is doing so well these days.

Hear, hear

Stitch

I like ADI. Just want to put that out there

Drukathi

I don't believe in ADI skills since I watched The Void. A crowdfunding Canadian film with $82,000 budget vs the power of the practical effects in ADI's ultimate film with all power of kickstarter support: Harbinger Down - $350,000. Amateurs vs professionals.

Well, The Void is better in ANY aspect. Including practical effects. You won't be impressed with ADI's light garlands, but the monsters in The Void look natural.

Enjoy

Enjoy

#283
I think tthis would be great. Also a Predator series would be a great way to explore different parts of history on earth for storylines and hunting scenerios . Not to mention what off world could be like. I am sold on the idea.

SiL

Quote from: Drukathi on Dec 03, 2020, 01:24:26 PM
I don't believe in ADI skills since I watched The Void. A crowdfunding Canadian film with $82,000 budget vs the power of the practical effects in ADI's ultimate film with all power of kickstarter support: Harbinger Down - $350,000. Amateurs vs professionals.

Well, The Void is better in ANY aspect. Including practical effects. You won't be impressed with ADI's light garlands, but the monsters in The Void look natural.
The effects in The Void were $82,000, not the film itself, and they had help from the effects team on Suicide Squad.

The effects aren't the real issue in Harbinger Down, the atrocious cinematography and direction are.

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