So... this...
https://www.resetera.com/threads/aliens-colonial-marines-ai-fixed-by-a-single-letter.55247/ (https://www.resetera.com/threads/aliens-colonial-marines-ai-fixed-by-a-single-letter.55247/)
I'm curious to try this fix out, but honestly I haven't played the game in so long I wonder if I'd really noticed the improvement.
Bahahhahahahahaha! AHahahahahhahaahhaa
AHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA i'm dying. Oh stop. This had to be a prank. Oh god... Hahahahaahaha. No, no... It's too much.
Five years on and they never figured this out!? WHAAHAHAAHhaa....! Oh Gearbox, just stop making games... HAhaha... I can't breath.
I just tried the fix and honestly I didn't notice any difference. Might be situational to environment (played the level where you first encounter the queen), so maybe it's more noticeable in more confined spaces.
Either way anyone acting like this was the biggest reason for why this game was a huge letdown doesn't remember playing the rest of the game...
Quote from: newbeing on Jul 14, 2018, 02:55:26 AM
Either way anyone acting like this was the biggest reason for why this game was a huge letdown doesn't remember playing the rest of the game...
Yep. The AI was horrifically bad, but so was everything else.
"Aliens: Colonial Marines. Available on Etch a Sketch. Pre-order yours at Hobby Lobby."
Ooh my god... this is just rich... :o
Quote from: newbeing on Jul 14, 2018, 02:55:26 AM
I just tried the fix and honestly I didn't notice any difference. Might be situational to environment (played the level where you first encounter the queen), so maybe it's more noticeable in more confined spaces.
Either way anyone acting like this was the biggest reason for why this game was a huge letdown doesn't remember playing the rest of the game...
1. That's probably the worst level to test this out.
2. Nobody is saying this is the reason the game was awful. The game was awful for a shopping list of reasons.
3. Donuts.
Quote from: OpenMaw on Jul 14, 2018, 02:38:37 AM
Bahahhahahahahaha! AHahahahahhahaahhaa
AHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA i'm dying. Oh stop. This had to be a prank. Oh god... Hahahahaahaha. No, no... It's too much.
Five years on and they never figured this out!? WHAAHAHAAHhaa....! Oh Gearbox, just stop making games... HAhaha... I can't breath.
I don't think that they cared. They should have the tools to notice the aliens not doing that one behavior and focus on looking into that specifically, but it looks like once the game was done they washed their hands and moved all the main people somewhere else.
Can y'all forgive Randy now?
That's amazingly awful
Tried it, works well but the AI isn't magically a genius all of a sudden. This makes the AI from laughingly bad to decent. The reports are over hyping this. It's an interesting situation still and bravo to the guy who found the problem, but the wasn't the only or biggest problem of the game.
Decent is good enough. Can't be much worse than the generic AI DICE presented to us in every SP they delivered so far.
Sad thing is, i read about this months ago... didn't try it yet.
Quote from: Local Trouble on Jul 14, 2018, 09:37:03 PM
Can y'all forgive Randy now?
Hell to the no.
LOL
Quote from: Local Trouble on Jul 14, 2018, 09:37:03 PM
Can y'all forgive Randy now?
Has Randy apologized yet?
Gearbox CEO Randy Pitchford on gamer criticism: 'some people are sadists' (https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2015/jul/15/gearbox-ceo-randy-pitchford-gamer-criticism)
Alien Colonial Marines Cost CEO Randy Pitchford $10 Million Of His Own Money (https://www.gamespot.com/articles/alien-colonial-marines-cost-ceo-randy-pitchford-10/1100-6428890/)
So when someone asks why the demos looked better? and why did the game change for the worse? He says, "The game actually changed for the better in tons of ways".
:D
Perhaps he'd be willing to compensate me for the two lungs and diaphragm I just injured laughing so hard. Seriously dude, you'd have a better chance trying to sell that the sky ain't blue on a clear day. Oh my Lord.
A great Aliens game, but was missing one key component: Bullet Time slow motion action. Timing in this game is fast and the details are great, but the lack of this cinematic trait for a game based on a movie, it just seems like a lost opportunity and pisses on this Alien-based experience.
I, like many, had high hopes for Aliens: CM when it first appeared on the cover of Game Informer. After the console version of AvP came along, which was OK but only average, I wished for a really awesome scaled up version of the late 90s AVP on pc. Long story short...it was all a letdown. However, if you are in need of a game in the Alien/Aliens universe, Alien: Isolation makes up for all the lackluster Alien games in the last decade. It is simply a masterpiece. Although difficult, it is well worth playing. (By the way...an update for the game added an easy difficulty). You may know this already. Just a reminder.
as if it was the only flaw of the game ;D
This is a nonstory making the news rounds because they could headline it about a single letter typo and any article proclaiming a massive improvement in the AI is sorely mistaken.
This will not fix much, I doubt many people will try it.
It's been 5,5 years and the game is still popular clickbait I guess.
Maybe it's time to move and the perhaps Randy can finally stop getting death threats.
I bought it some months before and this game is difficult af. I heard it was too easy before.
Now, *slash* *slash* and dead.
Never played the game again. ;D
Not much to add to what's already been said.
I completed the game on the 360 and lacklustre A.I, as disappointing as it was to be encountered, was far down the list of OMG..how did this get through?/WTF is this sh#t moments i had with the game.
It's been 5 years, the game failed to capture any of the potential it had and was a cluster f##k from start to bloody finish.
It joins a list of disappointing Alien games, films and Graphic novels that have had my time and money.
Sadly i expect it won't be the last.
Honestly, the AI was my biggest issue. I didn't see the promotional material before, so I didn't know how much better it looked before release. I looked afterwards and I understand the misrepresentation, but I was definitely late to that controversy.
The game was a basic Aliens shooter that I had enough fun with, but my biggest gripe was aliens constantly getting stuck running into walls, going in the opposite direction from me. These things are supposed to be trying to kill me, but it was like they were wind-up toys going in random directions.
I read about this over the weekend....Gearbox is pathetic.
I've never played this game, but this story is funny to me.
This is old news. TemplarGFX found this error last year.
https://www.moddb.com/mods/templargfxs-acm-overhaul
Not sure why this is beeing picked up now...
Gaaah, it's sounds like bad joke
The only ACM worth anyone's time is the Doom mod.
Quote from: Hemi on Jul 16, 2018, 07:39:30 AM
This is old news. TemplarGFX found this error last year.
https://www.moddb.com/mods/templargfxs-acm-overhaul
Not sure why this is beeing picked up now...
My point and I remember reading about it here on this message board...
It is, just looks like it never made the rounds.
I wonder if they'll even bother issuing a patch for the console versions.
(https://media.giphy.com/media/uFaQqfMVWQvle/giphy.gif)
The game ought to be buried, along with E.T.
Quote from: Local Trouble on Jul 16, 2018, 06:30:09 PM
I wonder if they'll even bother issuing a patch for the console versions.
Don't count on it.
Quote from: skull-splitter on Jul 17, 2018, 10:43:34 AM
Quote from: Local Trouble on Jul 16, 2018, 06:30:09 PM
I wonder if they'll even bother issuing a patch for the console versions.
Don't count on it.
It's really too late in the game at this point. Best thing to do is get a different developer to start a new game under extreme scrutiny.
Not only is it too late, it simply costs them money to issue a patch even if it fixes one typo on any platform other than PC.
Quote from: skull-splitter on Jul 17, 2018, 10:25:26 PM
Not only is it too late, it simply costs them money to issue a patch even if it fixes one typo on any platform other than PC.
Yep. It would be a waste of money this far in. It's like paying to put a brand new exhaust system on a car that needs to be completely re-built from the ground up. And I mean every single thing down to the tiniest bolts.
Eventually you have to reach the point where you either accept it for what it is, (a total loss) and put it out to pasture. Or call the scrap guy, and get a few bucks for it.
There's really nothing that can save the game for me, personally. Every now and then I enjoy the first few minutes on the Sulaco, the walk to Hadley's, and the Raven chase down in the hive. But that's about it. Other than that, it stays in the wallet.
To add insult to injury (https://gearboxsoftware.bamboohr.com/jobs/view.php?id=117).
Wouldn't expect anything less from Gearbox at this point, honestly.
Quote from: Olde on Jul 18, 2018, 12:36:33 AM
To add insult to injury (https://gearboxsoftware.bamboohr.com/jobs/view.php?id=117).
Wouldn't expect anything less from Gearbox at this point, honestly.
:D This is just too much.
Without thinking, I immediately started checking the job summary for typos. Would've been a good way to weed out those who need not apply. But I guess they didn't want to risk the joke.
Quote from: Olde on Jul 18, 2018, 12:36:33 AM
To add insult to injury (https://gearboxsoftware.bamboohr.com/jobs/view.php?id=117).
Wouldn't expect anything less from Gearbox at this point, honestly.
Quote from: Olde on Jul 18, 2018, 12:36:33 AM
To add insult to injury (https://gearboxsoftware.bamboohr.com/jobs/view.php?id=117).
Wouldn't expect anything less from Gearbox at this point, honestly.
I'd find that hilarious if I didn't think Gearbox/Pitchford were awful and didn't give a shit about anything to do with the game.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jul 18, 2018, 07:19:02 AM
Quote from: Olde on Jul 18, 2018, 12:36:33 AM
To add insult to injury (https://gearboxsoftware.bamboohr.com/jobs/view.php?id=117).
Wouldn't expect anything less from Gearbox at this point, honestly.
I'd find that hilarious if I didn't think Gearbox/Pitchford were awful and didn't give a shit about anything to do with the game.
Too right. While I don't hate the game and enjoy a play of it now and then, how they handled the situation was just awful. Zero accountability taken and petty attacks on legitimate critics. Definitely not supporting them as a studio in the future.
What little good did come of ACM seemed like more a product of TimeGate, Demiurge, Nerve Software, and Check Six Games, than it was of Gearbox.
Randy Pitchford (and going farther than just Gearbox but he as a person) insulted players to the point where I refunded both Homeworld games on steam. Gearbox remains the only company I've ever boycotted products from. Bethesda, EA, Ubisoft all save face and fix anti-consumer rhetoric when called out on it. Gearbox has yet to make up for that with ACM and other products.
Yeah, I recently resisted buying Homeworld because the remaster was put out by Gearbox. I refuse to purchase any of their products simply due to how they handled the criticism and what came out about the development of the game. Like you, I don't do that with any other company.
Would it help if Randy joined you for a private summit?
Quote from: Local Trouble on Jul 18, 2018, 08:33:01 AM
Would it help if Randy joined you for a private summit?
And to do what exactly? That I never will buy any of his games ever again and that I hate the fact that Gearbox got their greedy paws on a kickstarted title called We happy few?
Yeah I activley avoid anything touched and created by Gearbox.
Terrible company.
RidgeTop sent me this earlier :laugh:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qS29dE0J748&list=WL&index=2
Speaking of the thread subject.
Keep smiling Gearbox, I'll still never spend another penny on any of your products.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jul 18, 2018, 12:59:30 PM
RidgeTop sent me this earlier :laugh:
I wish you'd interview Randy. Just be sure to pronounce everything correctly.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jul 18, 2018, 12:59:30 PM
RidgeTop sent me this earlier :laugh:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZiT6EAehctY
Basically how I feel about the game:
(https://i.imgur.com/57iHARO.jpg)
Quote from: Local Trouble on Jul 18, 2018, 06:20:02 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jul 18, 2018, 12:59:30 PM
RidgeTop sent me this earlier :laugh:
I wish you'd interview Randy. Just be sure to pronounce everything correctly.
(https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/903/458/f7b.gif)
Im pretty sure gearbox is to blame for colonial marines clunkiness.
Quote from: prototypeXIII on Jul 19, 2018, 04:31:47 AM
Im pretty sure gearbox is to blame for colonial marines clunkiness.
I must say, after playing some of their earlier games and even Borderlands (first one) I can't really say I was too surprised when it hit the market...
Still one of my favorite Youtube clips but maybe I just like the song:
Quote from: Local Trouble on Jul 18, 2018, 06:20:02 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jul 18, 2018, 12:59:30 PM
RidgeTop sent me this earlier :laugh:
I wish you'd interview Randy. Just be sure to pronounce everything correctly.
(https://media.giphy.com/media/P8IXl0kmQgmDS/giphy.gif)
It would be like the Frost/Nixon of our age.
I tried this but I didn't see much difference. Aliens did however crawl more, occasionally flank and on the rare occasion dodge from side to side (this was admittedly cool but unfortunately didn't happen often).
Watch the AI in games video.