Found this interesting article on how the 1715 pistol landed in Prey.
https://www.insider.com/prey-predator-2-easter-egg-gun-pistol-prop-detail-explained-2022-8
I watched Predator 2 right after Prey. Boy that was jarring. Prey is so realistic, like Nolan films, while Pred 2 is very Early 90's and has too much silliness. I liked the Feral Pred not copying/mimicking people, that worled in the first films, but it now seems silly.
Copying people can be incredibly creepy if used properly. It was just played for laughs in the sequel but that hardly means the concept is silly.
"Over here" isn't chilling because it's novel, it's chilling because you don't know if it's the Predator or Mac saying it.
Quote from: SiL on Aug 16, 2022, 05:02:06 AMCopying people can be incredibly creepy if used properly.
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Like this?! :-X
Still kinda funny ;D
Was that ever used in Live Action? I guess it was the 'Want some candy?'scene in Pred 2🤔
Quote from: City Hunter Yautja on Aug 15, 2022, 10:23:23 PMI watched Predator 2 right after Prey. Boy that was jarring. Prey is so realistic, like Nolan films, while Pred 2 is very Early 90's and has too much silliness. I liked the Feral Pred not copying/mimicking people, that worled in the first films, but it now seems silly.
Predator 2 like I said before on another topic was a roller coaster ride, fun, camp etc. A total 90's action film. We have to give props to Predator 2 as it expanded the predator lore in a cool way.
Prey was brilliant for its realism and in line how modern cinema is made. The idea of a hunter mimicking to trick its prey is actually quite clever and chilling, like mimicking wild ducks while hunting or legendary hunter Jim Corbett mimicked Tiger calls to bring out a man eating tiger in India. If done right I don't think its silly.
Quote from: Immortan Jonesy on Aug 16, 2022, 05:23:31 AMWas that ever used in Live Action? I guess it was the 'Want some candy?'scene in Pred 2🤔
Did you not watch the first movie?
I thought Annihilation's use was funnier than anything, but it depends on the usage. You could create ambiguity over whether a character has died and bam, it's actually the Predator.
Quote from: frasermaxx on Aug 16, 2022, 05:46:27 AMQuote from: City Hunter Yautja on Aug 15, 2022, 10:23:23 PMI watched Predator 2 right after Prey. Boy that was jarring. Prey is so realistic, like Nolan films, while Pred 2 is very Early 90's and has too much silliness. I liked the Feral Pred not copying/mimicking people, that worled in the first films, but it now seems silly.
Predator 2 like I said before on another topic was a roller coaster ride, fun, camp etc. A total 90's action film. We have to give props to Predator 2 as it expanded the predator lore in a cool way.
Prey was brilliant for its realism and in line how modern cinema is made. The idea of a hunter mimicking to trick its prey is actually quite clever and chilling, like mimicking wild ducks while hunting or legendary hunter Jim Corbett mimicked Tiger calls to bring out a man eating tiger in India. If done right I don't think its silly.
I agree, Predator 2 added ao much to the lore and I adore City Hunter, hence my username. But if you watch Prey and Pred 2 back to back its really jarring in the differences in tone, style, and presentation. As you said.
Quote from: City Hunter Yautja on Aug 16, 2022, 06:03:04 AMQuote from: frasermaxx on Aug 16, 2022, 05:46:27 AMQuote from: City Hunter Yautja on Aug 15, 2022, 10:23:23 PMI watched Predator 2 right after Prey. Boy that was jarring. Prey is so realistic, like Nolan films, while Pred 2 is very Early 90's and has too much silliness. I liked the Feral Pred not copying/mimicking people, that worled in the first films, but it now seems silly.
Predator 2 like I said before on another topic was a roller coaster ride, fun, camp etc. A total 90's action film. We have to give props to Predator 2 as it expanded the predator lore in a cool way.
Prey was brilliant for its realism and in line how modern cinema is made. The idea of a hunter mimicking to trick its prey is actually quite clever and chilling, like mimicking wild ducks while hunting or legendary hunter Jim Corbett mimicked Tiger calls to bring out a man eating tiger in India. If done right I don't think its silly.
I agree, Predator 2 added ao much to the lore and I adore City Hunter, hence my username. But if you watch Prey and Pred 2 back to back its really jarring in the differences in tone, style, and presentation. As you said.
That was how films were made back then. Even director Stephen Hopkins said in the DVD commentary for Predator 2 he'd do things different now.
Quote from: City Hunter Yautja on Aug 15, 2022, 10:23:23 PMI watched Predator 2 right after Prey. Boy that was jarring. Prey is so realistic, like Nolan films, while Pred 2 is very Early 90's and has too much silliness. I liked the Feral Pred not copying/mimicking people, that worled in the first films, but it now seems silly.
Quote from: SiL on Aug 16, 2022, 05:02:06 AMCopying people can be incredibly creepy if used properly. It was just played for laughs in the sequel but that hardly means the concept is silly.
"Over here" isn't chilling because it's novel, it's chilling because you don't know if it's the Predator or Mac saying it.
Idk. 'Danny boy' was creepy as f**k.
I forgot about that one.
Danny Boy was good, Want some candy? was a joke.
Quote from: Master on Aug 16, 2022, 07:00:22 AMQuote from: City Hunter Yautja on Aug 15, 2022, 10:23:23 PMI watched Predator 2 right after Prey. Boy that was jarring. Prey is so realistic, like Nolan films, while Pred 2 is very Early 90's and has too much silliness. I liked the Feral Pred not copying/mimicking people, that worled in the first films, but it now seems silly.
Quote from: SiL on Aug 16, 2022, 05:02:06 AMCopying people can be incredibly creepy if used properly. It was just played for laughs in the sequel but that hardly means the concept is silly.
"Over here" isn't chilling because it's novel, it's chilling because you don't know if it's the Predator or Mac saying it.
Idk. 'Danny boy' was creepy as f**k.
The scene that really scares me is when City Hunter is killing the armed drug men at the beginning and then they discover the skinned man hanging upside down.
What took away from Pred being scarier, is his "Shit Happens," and "Motherf*cker!" Lines. They feel cheesy, oppose to Jungle Hunter's "What the Hell Are You?"
Quote from: City Hunter Yautja on Aug 16, 2022, 07:47:55 AMQuote from: Master on Aug 16, 2022, 07:00:22 AMQuote from: City Hunter Yautja on Aug 15, 2022, 10:23:23 PMI watched Predator 2 right after Prey. Boy that was jarring. Prey is so realistic, like Nolan films, while Pred 2 is very Early 90's and has too much silliness. I liked the Feral Pred not copying/mimicking people, that worled in the first films, but it now seems silly.
Quote from: SiL on Aug 16, 2022, 05:02:06 AMCopying people can be incredibly creepy if used properly. It was just played for laughs in the sequel but that hardly means the concept is silly.
"Over here" isn't chilling because it's novel, it's chilling because you don't know if it's the Predator or Mac saying it.
Idk. 'Danny boy' was creepy as f**k.
The scene that really scares me is when City Hunter is killing the armed drug men at the beginning and then they discover the skinned man hanging upside down.
What took away from Pred being scarier, is his "Shit Happens," and "Motherf*cker!" Lines. They feel cheesy, oppose to Jungle Hunter's "What the Hell Are You?"
I totally agree. Only the 'Danny Boy' mimic was creepy AF. They should have left it at that without other mimics.
Quote from: SiL on Aug 16, 2022, 05:02:06 AMCopying people can be incredibly creepy if used properly. It was just played for laughs in the sequel but that hardly means the concept is silly.
"Over here" isn't chilling because it's novel, it's chilling because you don't know if it's the Predator or Mac saying it.
So you don't want some candy?
Quote from: frasermaxx on Aug 16, 2022, 08:02:45 AMQuote from: City Hunter Yautja on Aug 16, 2022, 07:47:55 AMQuote from: Master on Aug 16, 2022, 07:00:22 AMQuote from: City Hunter Yautja on Aug 15, 2022, 10:23:23 PMI watched Predator 2 right after Prey. Boy that was jarring. Prey is so realistic, like Nolan films, while Pred 2 is very Early 90's and has too much silliness. I liked the Feral Pred not copying/mimicking people, that worled in the first films, but it now seems silly.
Quote from: SiL on Aug 16, 2022, 05:02:06 AMCopying people can be incredibly creepy if used properly. It was just played for laughs in the sequel but that hardly means the concept is silly.
"Over here" isn't chilling because it's novel, it's chilling because you don't know if it's the Predator or Mac saying it.
Idk. 'Danny boy' was creepy as f**k.
The scene that really scares me is when City Hunter is killing the armed drug men at the beginning and then they discover the skinned man hanging upside down.
What took away from Pred being scarier, is his "Shit Happens," and "Motherf*cker!" Lines. They feel cheesy, oppose to Jungle Hunter's "What the Hell Are You?"
I totally agree. Only the 'Danny Boy' mimic was creepy AF. They should have left it at that without other mimics.
Absolutely! "Danny Boy" is creepy and relevant.
"Motherf**ker" is hilarious.
I found the bear in Annihilation terrifying honestly.
I also find it creepy.
When I think about it Predator 2 is probably what The Predator wanted to be in terms of tone and humour
Quote from: BlueMarsalis79 on Aug 16, 2022, 04:41:09 PMI found the bear in Annihilation terrifying honestly.
That bear has nothing on guy's guts moving inside his belly. Ugh
So Stupid question but has this gun anything to do with the gun Glover got 8n predator 2?
I mean I don't know all these movies by heart like many of us do ;D
Quote from: Immortan Jonesy on Aug 16, 2022, 05:23:31 AMQuote from: SiL on Aug 16, 2022, 05:02:06 AMCopying people can be incredibly creepy if used properly.
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Like this?! :-X
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mg0bvyIEHcs
Still kinda funny ;D
Was that ever used in Live Action? I guess it was the 'Want some candy?'scene in Pred 2🤔
Annihilation is one messed up movie. Some of the stuff in that played on my mind for weeks.
Quote from: SiL on Aug 16, 2022, 05:49:45 AMQuote from: Immortan Jonesy on Aug 16, 2022, 05:23:31 AMWas that ever used in Live Action? I guess it was the 'Want some candy?'scene in Pred 2🤔
Did you not watch the first movie?
I thought Annihilation's use was funnier than anything, but it depends on the usage. You could create ambiguity over whether a character has died and bam, it's actually the Predator.
I forgot as I haven't seen the movie in years🙈
But I agree, the ambiguity would add tension, not to mention it would be creepy executed properly. 8)
Quote from: Rankles75 on Aug 16, 2022, 08:48:35 PMQuote from: Immortan Jonesy on Aug 16, 2022, 05:23:31 AMQuote from: SiL on Aug 16, 2022, 05:02:06 AMCopying people can be incredibly creepy if used properly.
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Like this?! :-X
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mg0bvyIEHcs
Still kinda funny ;D
Was that ever used in Live Action? I guess it was the 'Want some candy?'scene in Pred 2🤔
Annihilation is one messed up movie. Some of the stuff in that played on my mind for weeks.
I might be wrong but I think it's a bit creepier when the creature is biologically gifted to mimic sounds of its víctims, like that mutant bear, instead of using tech. ;D
Predators can naturally mimic.
... rewatch the first two movies dude.
Really? ;D I always thought it was technology. What a Shame lol
Edit - This is the second time I wish I had a laugh button.😂
"What the hell are you?", Billy's laugh, "motherf**ker", "shit happens", "take it".
Quote from: SiL on Aug 16, 2022, 10:08:34 PM"What the hell are you?", Billy's laugh, "motherf**ker", "shit happens", "take it".
Now I do remember. Especially Billy's laugh.
Jungle Hunter's human laugh before destroying himself is quite disturbing.. 🤔
Quote from: Immortan Jonesy on Aug 16, 2022, 10:14:55 PMQuote from: SiL on Aug 16, 2022, 10:08:34 PM"What the hell are you?", Billy's laugh, "motherf**ker", "shit happens", "take it".
Now I do remember. Especially Billy's laugh.
Jungle Hunter's human laugh before destroying himself is quite disturbing.. 🤔
I love that laugh! I wish I could make it my ringtone.
Demonic laugh.
Unfortunately I still haven't seen this movie lol. My girlfriend who had Hulu broke up with me
"You're just using me for Hulu!"
But seriously I'm sorry to hear that Billiken.
Quote from: Billiken on Aug 18, 2022, 11:03:03 AMUnfortunately I still haven't seen this movie lol. My girlfriend who had Hulu broke up with me
Have you considered ... other ways ? Yarrr
Quote from: Kradan on Aug 18, 2022, 11:36:59 AMQuote from: Billiken on Aug 18, 2022, 11:03:03 AMUnfortunately I still haven't seen this movie lol. My girlfriend who had Hulu broke up with me
Have you considered ... other ways ? Yarrr
Raphael Adolini approves!
Quote from: BlueMarsalis79 on Aug 18, 2022, 11:24:05 AM"You're just using me for Hulu!"
But seriously I'm sorry to hear that Billiken.
Lol thanks. The movie will cheer me up
Now I really want to know how that pistol will end up with Greyback in a future sequel...
Not having a Predator Bible at 20th Century/Disney is concerning since Fox did have one for A/P/AVP. Hopefully they still have it somewhere after the buyouy.
They do have a bible. But it's for people who work on the EU/licensed products. Entirely separate divisions.
Such a missed opportunity. The flintlock deserved better. :'(
Agreed, belongs in a pirate story. French Indian War would be a good idea for a sequel.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Aug 18, 2022, 02:38:27 PMThey do have a bible. But it's for people who work on the EU/licensed products. Entirely separate divisions.
Ah good to hear thanks!
A few interesting tidbits in this.
There is no lore bible, even at the studio, so fans complaining about contradicting lore in the all the media doesn't matter. If the studio doesn't have it nailed down, why should the consumer/fans know better?
And props (pun intended) to Neny Dee. That is so cool to have one of your creations be featured in the films.
Corporal Hicks says the EU people have a lore bible. Why would the studio not have one for the movies though? That doesn't make any sense unless the EU bible is just a bunch of what amounts to Wikia articles
Because the films make the lore and can do what they want. The EU has to follow suit.
Quote from: SiL on Aug 19, 2022, 01:54:12 AMBecause the films make the lore and can do what they want. The EU has to follow suit.
Ultimately it's this. During the second golden-age the people who ran the EU at Fox put effort into trying to keep it all coherent because they know that fans enjoy that kind of thing. The film-makers can do whatever they want. It's just the way of things and has been for a long time and will continue to be for a long time.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Aug 19, 2022, 07:55:21 AMQuote from: SiL on Aug 19, 2022, 01:54:12 AMBecause the films make the lore and can do what they want. The EU has to follow suit.
Ultimately it's this. During the second golden-age the people who ran the EU at Fox put effort into trying to keep it all coherent because they know that fans enjoy that kind of thing. The film-makers can do whatever they want. It's just the way of things and has been for a long time and will continue to be for a long time.
True that!
How good would you feel, being that fan, for the film makers to contact you asking to borrow one of your fandom pieces!
Thanks also for the link to the Peter Briggs article!..only just read his entry in EYES OF THE DEMON...it was so much fun...recommend the book to anyone who hasn't read it yet!
Quote from: City Hunter Yautja on Aug 16, 2022, 07:47:55 AMQuote from: Master on Aug 16, 2022, 07:00:22 AMdo those even count as mimicking? Wasnt he recording their voices and playing it back? This one he seemed to be just saying those to lines.
Quote from: City Hunter Yautja on Aug 15, 2022, 10:23:23 PMI watched Predator 2 right after Prey. Boy that was jarring. Prey is so realistic, like Nolan films, while Pred 2 is very Early 90's and has too much silliness. I liked the Feral Pred not copying/mimicking people, that worled in the first films, but it now seems silly.
Quote from: SiL on Aug 16, 2022, 05:02:06 AMCopying people can be incredibly creepy if used properly. It was just played for laughs in the sequel but that hardly means the concept is silly.
"Over here" isn't chilling because it's novel, it's chilling because you don't know if it's the Predator or Mac saying it.
Idk. 'Danny boy' was creepy as f**k.
The scene that really scares me is when City Hunter is killing the armed drug men at the beginning and then they discover the skinned man hanging upside down.
What took away from Pred being scarier, is his "Shit Happens," and "Motherf*cker!" Lines. They feel cheesy, oppose to Jungle Hunter's "What the Hell Are You?"
Man, I really wish for a functional Raphael flintlock pistol replica, shame there isn't any around for sale. I know there are people who can be commissioned to make one, but I don't got that kind of cash on me. Or rather, I'm not yet ready to spend that much.