So as most of you know the script for the new Alien movie had to be changed after Ridley Scott had a look and thought there was an element that contradicted (?) the future Prometheus sequel.
So it seems yes Fox and Scott want to keep everything tied together and maybe Scott thought he'd better make sure there was nothing in the script that wouldn't sit right with his own project. Okay seems perfectly understandable, even tho Scott has said he would be moving the Prometheus project even further away from the Alien franchise. More interesting tho is the fact that yes the script actually was changed.
Looking back at the artwork Blomkamp released, my best guess would be it has something to do with Ripley in the "engineer" headgear. If that is what needed to be changed then I must say I am relieved (as cool at the artwork was).
So from this you get the idea that Blomkamp will, one way or another, have the engineers playing a big part in his project, having to change details so to not step on Scott's toes. Or maybe, less likely. Scott actually does want to go further into details with the Xenomorphs. Maybe another aspect of reproduction. A new type of Alien not yet seen or a more concrete origin of the species and maybe thats what Blomkamp had to change in his script. Doing away with one or maybe all of his own answers to these questions.
My guess is that Blomkamp's had a more traditional vision of the Jockeys that didn't jive with Ridley's new take on them.
When do you think Alien 5 will be set in before alien 3 or maybe during Ripley 57 years in hypersleep (as in the comics)or will it be after aliens (hopefully not)
Quote from: Kelgaard on Jul 06, 2015, 01:51:47 PM
My guess is that Blomkamp's had a more traditional vision of the Jockeys that didn't jive with Ridley's new take on them.
Yeah, could be that Blomkamp wanted to go back to the Lovecraftian eldritch creature seen in the first film while the Guv'nor wanted bald steroided albino giants instead.
Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on Jul 06, 2015, 03:43:33 PM
Quote from: Kelgaard on Jul 06, 2015, 01:51:47 PM
My guess is that Blomkamp's had a more traditional vision of the Jockeys that didn't jive with Ridley's new take on them.
Yeah, could be that Blomkamp wanted to go back to the Lovecraftian eldritch creature seen in the first film while the Guv'nor wanted bald steroided albino giants instead.
LOL :D
Quote from: THE CITY HUNTER on Jul 06, 2015, 03:43:08 PM
When do you think Alien 5 will be set in before alien 3 or maybe during Ripley 57 years in hypersleep (as in the comics)or will it be after aliens (hopefully not)
I thought it was already established that it was a direct sequel to Aliens? How they are going to do it is more the question. Ignore 3 and Res... or not.
Make a direct sequel to 'ALIENS', sure.
Just use fresh characters and situations. Then the events of the new movie can run parallel to 'ALIEN 3'.
There's no need to retcon anything. The only hang up is Hicks and Ripley re-appearing.
So retarded.
-Windebieste.
Running alongside it isn't plausible, thanks to a certain piece of 'Alien Resurrection' dialogue...
All evidence is wiped out at the end. Plausible.
Quote from: Xenomorphine on Jul 07, 2015, 01:54:24 AM
Running alongside it isn't plausible, thanks to a certain piece of 'Alien Resurrection' dialogue...
Prometheus is telling us otherwise.
-Windebieste.
Prometheus hasn't told us anything explicitly yet.
Prometheus implicitly tells us that there is more than one engineer vehicle containing hostile contagion present in the galaxy.
There's likely to be more.
How does that 'ALIEN: Resurrection' quote stand up to accommodate that situation?
-Windebieste.
It doesn't, however, say that it's another source of Aliens. I know what you're saying mate and it's certainly possible but with the mess that is Prometheus' narrative it doesn't really equate to anything solid.
For Resurrection though...as far as mankind is aware (from recorded history) that was their single source of Aliens and that source was wiped out and never replaced.
Plenty of ways around it, mind you. I was just replying to say that Prometheus doesn't actually tell us anything about another source of Aliens.
Nothing happened between 'Alien 3' and 'Alien Resurrection' - which Weyland-Yutani or any US governmental agencies know about.
Unfortunately, if A3/AR are being preserved and this one just follows directly from 'Aliens', then the audience already knows nothing will get out of hand and the stakes will feel very limited, because all evidence will have to be destroyed before anyone important finds out what's going on.
If either of those two films gets retconned, however, then all bets are off. Heck, if A3 gets wiped, it's once again possible for any Alien to potentially mature into a Queen, which hugely multiplies their planetary threat factor (as would egg-transformation being a way to create a Queen).
Quote from: Xenomorphine on Jul 07, 2015, 01:31:43 PM
Nothing happened between 'Alien 3' and 'Alien Resurrection' - which Weyland-Yutani or any US governmental agencies know about.
Unfortunately, if A3/AR are being preserved and this one just follows directly from 'Aliens', then the audience already knows nothing will get out of hand and the stakes will feel very limited, because all evidence will have to be destroyed before anyone important finds out what's going on.
If either of those two films gets retconned, however, then all bets are off. Heck, if A3 gets wiped, it's once again possible for any Alien to potentially mature into a Queen, which hugely multiplies their planetary threat factor (as would egg-transformation being a way to create a Queen).
Just retconn the ending (check out my forum on that)
Quote from: Xenomorphine on Jul 07, 2015, 01:31:43 PM
Nothing happened between 'Alien 3' and 'Alien Resurrection' - which Weyland-Yutani or any US governmental agencies know about.
Which isn't a massive deal anyway - there are other organizations/people and a massive galaxy.
QuoteIf either of those two films gets retconned, however, then all bets are off. Heck, if A3 gets wiped, it's once again possible for any Alien to potentially mature into a Queen, which hugely multiplies their planetary threat factor (as would egg-transformation being a way to create a Queen).
I wonder if Blomkamp might look towards the egg-morphing having something to do with this. We've seen what looks like someone being egg morphing so maybe...
He's repeated several times that he wants to have psychosexuality return in a major way. Turning people into eggs would be the most obvious way to do that. So, I'm thinking so.
Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on Jul 06, 2015, 03:43:33 PM
Quote from: Kelgaard on Jul 06, 2015, 01:51:47 PM
My guess is that Blomkamp's had a more traditional vision of the Jockeys that didn't jive with Ridley's new take on them.
Yeah, could be that Blomkamp wanted to go back to the Lovecraftian eldritch creature seen in the first film while the Guv'nor wanted bald steroided albino giants instead.
It is the most likely scenario, but the xeno suit it made me think for a moment that Blomkamp was supporting the Ridley's vision of the Space Jockeys :laugh:
So they are still going to proceed with this movie?
As far as we know.
Quote from: SpreadEagleBeagle on Jul 09, 2015, 10:04:25 PM
So they are still going to proceed with this movie?
Pre production has startedhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alien_(franchise)
Ok.
Wish I could be excited about this project, but the premise and basis of the whole thing is such a big turn-off for me. Can't see past the ALIENS fanboy wankery and His & N00t necrophilia.
Yeah you don't like it. We get it.
Quote from: Kelgaard on Jul 17, 2015, 01:36:46 AM
Yeah you don't like it. We get it.
Thank you for letting me know.
Quote from: SpreadEagleBeagle on Jul 17, 2015, 05:40:12 PM
Quote from: Kelgaard on Jul 17, 2015, 01:36:46 AM
Yeah you don't like it. We get it.
Thank you for letting me know.
Don't worry bro me and you both, I am getting worried about it like seriously a zeno suit and those aliens behind ripley what is this star wars(I want alien 3 back >:( >:( >:( >:( >:()
I really don't think they are aliens. Just humans but the art hasn't given them as much detail.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jul 18, 2015, 09:58:30 PM
I really don't think they are aliens. Just humans but the art hasn't given them as much detail.
Some people are saying they are humans well we can only wait i am still worried about alien 5
Quote from: SpreadEagleBeagle on Jul 16, 2015, 08:30:57 PM
Ok.
Wish I could be excited about this project, but the premise and basis of the whole thing is such a big turn-off for me. Can't see past the ALIENS fanboy wankery and His & N00t necrophilia.
You're on an Aliens fansite discussing retconning Alien 3 or not. Come on man, it's fanboy wankery either way. Alien 3 fanboys and Alien 3 retcon proponents are guilty of the exact same thing. Embrace the fact that people have different opinions.
Given Bloomkamp's fascination with exo suits as defined in ALL of his films so far, I expect that we may see Ripley donning a full on Engineer exo suit and beating the crap out of some Aliens?
It's really going to depend on how linked to Prometheus Alien 5 will be. I don't mind the idea if they make the suit more bio-mechanical than it was in Prometheus.