Details here: http://www.gameinformer.com/b/news/archive/2013/04/30/report-sega-and-gearbox-hit-with-class-action-suit-for-aliens-colonial-marines.aspx (http://www.gameinformer.com/b/news/archive/2013/04/30/report-sega-and-gearbox-hit-with-class-action-suit-for-aliens-colonial-marines.aspx)
Finally.
Just saw this reposted on Joystiq & Polygon. First time for me that one of these class-action suits actually pertained to me, in addition to being something I could potentially support.
Feels like beating a dead horse now, but I'd also like to add that I know for certain I won't be purchasing any Gearbox titles in the future because of this ordeal. Seriously, Gearbox can go get f**ked by a cactus.
Yeah. Company like THQ went bankrupt for making one mistake. It shouldn't be exception for Gearbox.
Quote from: demonbane on May 01, 2013, 02:32:59 AM
Yeah. Company like THQ went bankrupt for making one mistake. It shouldn't be exception for Gearbox.
THQ did plenty wrong, it wasn't just one single thing that did them in.
First give me Brothers in Arms: Battle of the Bulge, then you can go bankrupt.
Your move, Gearbox.
Quote from: Blacklabel on May 01, 2013, 03:18:32 AM
Your move, Gearbox.
Their move... outsourcing the lawsuit to TimeGate
Quote from: Blacklabel on May 01, 2013, 03:18:32 AM
Your move, Gearbox.
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.gawkerassets.com%2Fimg%2F18kx5arf6pfucpng%2Fku-xlarge.png&hash=7b075d2bece3d923d9b5ee2049e5a264abca983c)
I wonder what crap Pitchford is going to pull out of his butt on this one.
More articles here...
http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/05/01/gearbox-sega-sued-over-aliens-colonial-marines?abthid=51806b00e9cae3417700003b (http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/05/01/gearbox-sega-sued-over-aliens-colonial-marines?abthid=51806b00e9cae3417700003b)
http://www.joystiq.com/2013/04/30/sega-and-gearbox-targeted-in-aliens-colonial-marines-lawsuit/ (http://www.joystiq.com/2013/04/30/sega-and-gearbox-targeted-in-aliens-colonial-marines-lawsuit/)
Finally.
Quote from: ShadowPred on May 01, 2013, 03:01:44 AM
Quote from: demonbane on May 01, 2013, 02:32:59 AM
Yeah. Company like THQ went bankrupt for making one mistake. It shouldn't be exception for Gearbox.
THQ did plenty wrong, it wasn't just one single thing that did them in.
Exactly, it was the culmination of a number of failures. uDraw Wii accessory, AAA CoD rival Homefront, unfinished development of an MMO, and I think one other high-cost/risk venture that I'm forgetting. It was insane that they attempted all of these at once, the failure of any one of them would have had a major impact on the company.
But getting back on topic, I hope the Colonial Marines situation doesn't bite Sega too badly. They have a number of other major properties under their banner which could suffer underfunding, rushing, lay-offs, lack of post-release support, redesigning or even abandonment if the corporate coffers start drying up. Rome Total War 2, just for one example, is a hugely ambitious title in a flagship series, and needs 100% commitment to live up to that promise.
No Patch can Fix this. :P
a bored billionare fan sued them...i guess, because this process will cost him more than the prize of the game what he could get back
btw this isnt mean that we get the game we promised i dunno why are u so happy about it....and top of it if we would got that graphics like in the demos...the STORY, THE ACTING AND AI STILL WOULD HAVE BEEN HORRIBLE!!!!!!!!! and no lawsuit can do anything about that, i dont understand how many people wank over the graphics...but do what u want
Quote from: szkoki on May 01, 2013, 11:26:56 AM
a bored billionare fan sued them...i guess, because this process will cost him more than the prize of the game what he could get back
btw this isnt mean that we get the game we promised i dunno why are u so happy about it....and top of it if we would got that graphics like in the demos...the STORY, THE ACTING AND AI STILL WOULD HAVE BEEN HORRIBLE!!!!!!!!! and no lawsuit can do anything about that, i dont understand how many people wank over the graphics...but do what u want
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lbB_HVcXpPk#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lbB_HVcXpPk#ws)
Finally man, I love this game to hell and back but FINALLY they get what they deserve for all their f**king lies! I just hope that it impacts future Aliens game in a positive way... The most positive way being an actual future for Aliens game. :-\
Wait, what did they lie about? ???
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4w3vlks9lYY#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4w3vlks9lYY#ws)
Quote from: BANE on May 01, 2013, 01:50:34 PM
Wait, what did they lie about? ???
Pretty much everything, really.
glad this is happening, and hope it stops future companies from doing this.
Well, this took longer than I expected, but it's finally happened. Hopefully
some justice will be served. What GBX did was complete bullshit. We were the ones who paid for it.
They need to pay for it.
One thing is clear, A:CM will
never be the game we wanted. Or even the game they said it would be. We aren't going to get any true justice because of this.
Quote from: Vertigo on May 01, 2013, 08:28:16 AM
But getting back on topic, I hope the Colonial Marines situation doesn't bite Sega too badly. They have a number of other major properties under their banner which could suffer underfunding, rushing, lay-offs, lack of post-release support, redesigning or even abandonment if the corporate coffers start drying up. Rome Total War 2, just for one example, is a hugely ambitious title in a flagship series, and needs 100% commitment to live up to that promise.
Yeah, I'm a bit concerned about that, too.
I think you people should just let Randy and Gearbox get a pass on this whole thing. What do you say?
Quote from: Local Trouble on May 01, 2013, 08:04:37 PM
I think you people should just let Randy and Geabox get a pass on this whole thing. What do you say?
Agreed.
the game was a disappointment, we get it.
but stuff like that happen. now, move on.
No, gearbox deserve it anyway.
This could seriously jeopardize development on Borderlands 3, not to mention any potential new Homeworld games since they just acquired that IP from THQ's sell-off.
Besides, Randy seems like a swell guy.
On the one hand, it's not like CM was the first game to lie about what was going to be in the final product. But I'm certainly not going to feel sorry for them. I find the whole thing a bit amusing
While we're at it, could I sue over Epic Mickey, Kingdom Hearts Re: Coded, Silent Hill HD Collection, Shadow Of the Damned, and every other crappy game I ended up wasting money on?
Oh, that f**king HD collection. If anyone deserved to be sued, it was Konami and Tomm Hulett for that broken POS
Quote from: szkoki on May 01, 2013, 11:26:56 AM
a bored billionare fan sued them...i guess, because this process will cost him more than the prize of the game
It seems to be the firm who seek these type of cases actually.
http://www.edelson.com/case/13/ (http://www.edelson.com/case/13/)
Quote from: Local Trouble on May 01, 2013, 08:04:37 PM
I think you people should just let Randy and Gearbox get a pass on this whole thing. What do you say?
Considering they got a pass for Brothers in Arms Hells Highway and it's faults, for cutting as much of the stuff out of Borderlands 2 that they promised, and for Randy making the comments he did when they ported Halo to the PC a decade ago....nah. It's a pointless lawsuit, but I want this turd to stay in the spotlight as long as possible to make an example of out it.
I can't help but think back on all the bullshit Randy and the rest of GBX kept feeding us about A:CM's quality, the tech they're implementing, how it's going to blow gamers away, how they're such huge fans of the franchise and how excited they are to be working on this dream project.
Actions speak louder than words, though. Now that we've been finding out what really happened with the game's development, how can anyone not think Randy and the rest of GBX are like fork-tonged salesmen?
This kind of BS has to stop NOW. With all game companies. Game developers (and publishers) need to start making good on their word.
Quote from: Local Trouble on May 01, 2013, 08:10:53 PM
This could seriously jeopardize development on Borderlands 3, not to mention any potential new Homeworld games since they just acquired that IP from THQ's sell-off.
Besides, Randy seems like a swell guy.
Who gives shit about Borderland 3? Oh right damn sheep. Borderland is not something most people should crave. I don't know why people try to put it in league of Bioshock, Halo, etc. Yeah. I played Borderland 1. It was meh to fun. Forgettable music, characters, etc.
And Borderland was built upon sacrifice of Alien: CM. You would be a damn fool to support such scam franchise.
If we let this case go away, then other companies along with Gearbox will repeat the same crime in the future.
It's people like you who is not helping gaming industry at all. We need to set precedent so other companies won't dare to do the same. Say other companies also did all you want. It doesn't change the fact that this case is the most glaring case at least in this year so far.
Quote from: Lie on May 01, 2013, 01:57:12 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4w3vlks9lYY#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4w3vlks9lYY#ws)
doesnt even look like the same f**king game :-\
Quote from: Guts on May 02, 2013, 03:54:08 AM
Quote from: Lie on May 01, 2013, 01:57:12 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4w3vlks9lYY#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4w3vlks9lYY#ws)
doesnt even look like the same f**king game :-\
Cause it's not. :-\
Quote from: Nazrel on May 01, 2013, 04:19:00 AM
I wonder what crap Pitchford is going to pull out of his butt on this one.
What ever it is, it will be a pointless gesture.
Took them long enough. I enjoy playing the game and I want to see gearbox fry for this.
I'm glad this has happened. Just because the majority of people rush to go buy the newest CoD game (when they're all the same game in essence) doesn't mean GBX can do the same with a well-respected franchise like Alien, cheap out the fans with hype alone and think that all Of us are going to put up with it. I still play it but my disappointment in the story and overall features has not subsided.
http://www.gameinformer.com/b/features/archive/2013/05/01/the-aliens-colonial-marines-class-action-lawsuit-is-wrong.aspx (http://www.gameinformer.com/b/features/archive/2013/05/01/the-aliens-colonial-marines-class-action-lawsuit-is-wrong.aspx)
Here's an interesting gameinformer opinion piece about this. I do think the lawsuit is without merit, even though it's clear customers were mislead. Are you going to sue a film studio after watching a bad movie that had a good trailer?
Quote from: RidgeTop on May 02, 2013, 04:44:12 PM
http://www.gameinformer.com/b/features/archive/2013/05/01/the-aliens-colonial-marines-class-action-lawsuit-is-wrong.aspx (http://www.gameinformer.com/b/features/archive/2013/05/01/the-aliens-colonial-marines-class-action-lawsuit-is-wrong.aspx)
Here's an interesting gameinformer opinion piece about this. I do think the lawsuit is without merit, even though it's clear customers were mislead. Are you going to sue a film studio after watching a bad movie that had a good trailer?
Is that the argument, though? It relies on subjectivity ("I didn't like the movie, despite the hype"), whereas the GBX case doesn't ("there's nothing indicative of the advertised product in the actual product"). I thought the debacle concerned advertising a game (
content) that was not present in the final product, and probably never intended to be. The allegation is that GBX knew their product was something it was not and advertised it that way. When I think of the same sort of thing happening in movies (like
Drive or
The Grey's action-orientated trailers) the actual content of the trailers was still in the movie, albeit in different context. That's not the case with A:CM.
Personally, for me, I hope to one day soon read a headline on IGN etc that says, "Gearbox closing up shop, going out of business". I despise Randy Pitchford and all the crap lies that came out of that companies mouth about this game. Seeing that headline would make me think to myself, "haha".
http://www.polygon.com/2013/5/1/4289488/aliens-colonial-marines-lawsuit-to-enter-arbitration-plaintiffs-still (http://www.polygon.com/2013/5/1/4289488/aliens-colonial-marines-lawsuit-to-enter-arbitration-plaintiffs-still)
Quote from: RidgeTop on May 02, 2013, 04:44:12 PM
Are you going to sue a film studio after watching a bad movie that had a good trailer?
In the movie trailer they are showing ACTUAL parts of the movie. In our case they showed us something that was completely cut from the game. The garage scene and the crusher scene from the demo are no where to be found in the actual game (as you already know).
Quote from: RidgeTop on May 02, 2013, 04:44:12 PM
http://www.gameinformer.com/b/features/archive/2013/05/01/the-aliens-colonial-marines-class-action-lawsuit-is-wrong.aspx (http://www.gameinformer.com/b/features/archive/2013/05/01/the-aliens-colonial-marines-class-action-lawsuit-is-wrong.aspx)
Here's an interesting gameinformer opinion piece about this. I do think the lawsuit is without merit, even though it's clear customers were mislead. Are you going to sue a film studio after watching a bad movie that had a good trailer?
That's not the same argument, if this is the Game Informer article in a nutshell, then it's a waste of the author's time to have even written it.
Quote from: RidgeTop on May 02, 2013, 04:44:12 PM
http://www.gameinformer.com/b/features/archive/2013/05/01/the-aliens-colonial-marines-class-action-lawsuit-is-wrong.aspx (http://www.gameinformer.com/b/features/archive/2013/05/01/the-aliens-colonial-marines-class-action-lawsuit-is-wrong.aspx)
Here's an interesting gameinformer opinion piece about this. I do think the lawsuit is without merit, even though it's clear customers were mislead. Are you going to sue a film studio after watching a bad movie that had a good trailer?
He's wrong, simple as.
Only good can come out of this, it'll stop devs and publishers from advertising games years in advance when the finished product is nothing alike, maybe they'll also stop devoting so much damn money to marketing and actually work on their game.
It's not like we get anything out of this lawsuit but screw it they can go for it and try to have something done about all the fake advertising in the industry.
All that stuff in the demo was EARLY footage, shown more than two years in advance of release. Very often early demos do not reflect the final product. The most famous instance of this was the Halo 2 demo, which was highly scripted and featured a segment that was drastically different in the final release. This is simply the nature of game development. If you look at almost all of the videos and trailers in the months leading up to release, they were made using the final version of the game. As the gameinformer article illustrates, the best way to tell if a game is worth a purchase or not is by reading the reviews to get a general consensus of the game. Naturally the publisher and the developer are going to try to advertise it by showing it looking its best. The developers do not owe gamers a product that meets their satisfaction.
Also, there are plenty of film trailers that show scenes or elements that don't end up in the final film. Just look at the Predators trailer.
Quote from: RidgeTop on May 02, 2013, 06:31:44 PM
All that stuff in the demo was EARLY footage, shown more than two years in advance of release. Very often early demos do not reflect the final product. This is simply the nature of game development. If you look at almost all of the videos and trailers in the months leading up to release, they were made using the final version of the game. As the gameinformer article illustrates, the best way to tell if a game is worth a purchase or not is by reading the reviews to get a general consensus of the game. Naturally the publisher and the developer is going to try to advertise it by showing it looking its best. The developers do not owe gamers a product that meets their satisfaction.
All that early footage ended up looking MILES better in ever regard. The final product was basically a game that looked like it was still in early development. It's as if you paid to see a movie, but ended up getting the version with the green screens still in the frame, terrible audio, and text saying "special effect of shield, here."
And the bullshit about the developers not having to make the game to our satisfaction is horseshit. They cannot, and should not stoop the such low levels to release a piece of shit. No one here ever expects a shitty game, and the developers damn well should not have aspired to make one in the first place. They know better than that, and still decided to release a crap product. The standard should always be to do the best, and clearly Gearbox and Sega wanted nothing to do with that mentality.
EDITAnd that bit about the Predators trailer is not the same damn thing. The movie we got was the same as advertised, it wasn't horribly butchered to death. A:CM was ripped apart, the entire hype train Gearbox set up was calling this basically the be all, end all of everything in the Alien Franchise.
MAKE ALIEN 3 BETTER
TRUE SEQUEL
CO-OP IS THE SHIT
AN AMAZING STORY UNLIKE ANYTHING BEFORE
etc., etc.
"Bullshit, all of it."
You're right on that, they should have gone for something great, and they failed. But they suffer for it in the marketplace with poor game sales. I'm just saying, it's very common for early press showings, trailers, demos, etc. to look better, worse, or close to the final product. And developers are always going to praise their own game as much as they can in interviews, even if it's all bullshit. This is why we have game reviews. Suing for disappointment, even if something initially looked promising but ended up lacking, just seems pointless.
Quote from: RidgeTop on May 02, 2013, 06:31:44 PM
All that stuff in the demo was EARLY footage, shown more than two years in advance of release. Very often early demos do not reflect the final product. The most famous instance of this was the Halo 2 demo, which was highly scripted and featured a segment that was drastically different in the final release. This is simply the nature of game development. If you look at almost all of the videos and trailers in the months leading up to release, they were made using the final version of the game. As the gameinformer article illustrates, the best way to tell if a game is worth a purchase or not is by reading the reviews to get a general consensus of the game. Naturally the publisher and the developer are going to try to advertise it by showing it looking its best. The developers do not owe gamers a product that meets their satisfaction.
Also, there are plenty of film trailers that show scenes or elements that don't end up in the final film. Just look at the Predators trailer.
Yes and they shouldn't be releasing trailers of a game that will not be released, if Bungie were to do that Halo 2 demo nowdays I'd expect the same to happen to them.
As for deleted scenes with movies, that stuff usually ends up on the home version, at the very least it exists somewhere or was cut for a reason. These game demos are being made for the sole purpose of swindling people through hype and then never appear anywhere in the game.
Bungie pretty much did the same thing for Halo 2, when they released the gameplay footage at E3, but then again that was early footage, and something they scrapped altogether because they couldn't get it right. The rest of the game had no such problems whatsoever, unlike A:CM that was problematic to everything from the quality of graphics, to the AI that was dumbed down to shit compared to the gameplay walkthrough they showed. Everything was dumbed down, and what people saw was a glimpse of what could have been, but was never meant to be.
Quote from: ShadowPred on May 02, 2013, 06:54:10 PM
Bungie pretty much did the same thing for Halo 2, when they released the gameplay footage at E3, but then again that was early footage, and something they scrapped altogether because they couldn't get it right. The rest of the game had no such problems whatsoever, unlike A:CM that was problematic to everything from the quality of graphics, to the AI that was dumbed down to shit compared to the gameplay walkthrough they showed. Everything was dumbed down, and what people saw was a glimpse of what could have been, but was never meant to be.
This.
Quote from: ShadowPred on May 02, 2013, 06:54:10 PM
Bungie pretty much did the same thing for Halo 2, when they released the gameplay footage at E3, but then again that was early footage, and something they scrapped altogether because they couldn't get it right. The rest of the game had no such problems whatsoever, unlike A:CM that was problematic to everything from the quality of graphics, to the AI that was dumbed down to shit compared to the gameplay walkthrough they showed. Everything was dumbed down, and what people saw was a glimpse of what could have been, but was never meant to be.
You nailed it.
Quote from: ShadowPred on May 02, 2013, 06:54:10 PM
Bungie pretty much did the same thing for Halo 2, when they released the gameplay footage at E3, but then again that was early footage, and something they scrapped altogether because they couldn't get it right. The rest of the game had no such problems whatsoever, unlike A:CM that was problematic to everything from the quality of graphics, to the AI that was dumbed down to shit compared to the gameplay walkthrough they showed. Everything was dumbed down, and what people saw was a glimpse of what could have been, but was never meant to be.
That's exactly the point, I don't what changes they made in Halo 2 but they went too far with A:CM.
Only changes made in Halo 2 that was noticeable right off the bat are:
The shadows and lighting in this trailer:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cojjVDdtB8g# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cojjVDdtB8g#)
and of course, this entire "level":
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YGhsg48Ytuc# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YGhsg48Ytuc#)
Both of these are addressed in the, Making Of documentary of the game.
EDIT
4:00
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3QoJeywvbt0# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3QoJeywvbt0#)
Quote from: RidgeTop on May 02, 2013, 04:44:12 PM
http://www.gameinformer.com/b/features/archive/2013/05/01/the-aliens-colonial-marines-class-action-lawsuit-is-wrong.aspx (http://www.gameinformer.com/b/features/archive/2013/05/01/the-aliens-colonial-marines-class-action-lawsuit-is-wrong.aspx)
Here's an interesting gameinformer opinion piece about this. I do think the lawsuit is without merit, even though it's clear customers were mislead. Are you going to sue a film studio after watching a bad movie that had a good trailer?
This article is complete bullshit. Subjectivity and frivolousness my ass. The extreme of this situation is so harsh, it sets a new benchmark.
The problem isn't just about A:CM's horrid quality, either. It's also the absolutely ridiculous difference in quality between all the screenshots and footage we've been shown prior to A:CM's release and the final product. Not to mention everything that's been stated by GBX in interviews and press conferences leading all the way up to the game's launch. Then it continued with how it was marketed. The final "nail in the coffin" is the shady shit we've learned GBX did that caused the game's quality to suffer so drastically.
No, they need to be held accountable, and I can't seen anything but good coming out of this situation because (at the very least) it sends the message to all game companies that this sort of thing is WRONG and we (as their consumers) won't tolerate it.
You don't have to be a Cambridge grad to know something is complete crap, either. Game companies need to mean what they say, and make good on their word. If they can't, then they shouldn't try to cover it up.
Quote from: ShadowPred on May 02, 2013, 06:54:10 PM
Bungie pretty much did the same thing for Halo 2, when they released the gameplay footage at E3, but then again that was early footage, and something they scrapped altogether because they couldn't get it right. The rest of the game had no such problems whatsoever, unlike A:CM that was problematic to everything from the quality of graphics, to the AI that was dumbed down to shit compared to the gameplay walkthrough they showed. Everything was dumbed down, and what people saw was a glimpse of what could have been, but was never meant to be.
The difference is that after E3 demo, Bungie actually showed multiplayer footage in Zanzibar map. The footage showed actual gameplay in final product. Therefore, people knew what to expect. People knew what changes were made. And they never said it was 100% in game footage.
A:CM kept relying on early E3 demo without showing final build before the release. Huge difference.
And they kept hyping up stuff with all their development videos about stuff that wasn't even in the game. God damn Gearbox.
The Demo was confirmed not to be made with the game at all, don't you folks remember?
Quote from: Gate on May 03, 2013, 05:02:24 AM
The Demo was confirmed not to be made with the game at all, don't you folks remember?
Indeed. I recall it being mentioned in some interviews, etc... And as I've said before, I remember mentioning it too back in 2011 (http://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/index.php?topic=40512.msg1203546#msg1203546).
This is an excerpt from AvPG's interview with GBX in 2012: http://www.avpgalaxy.net/games/aliens-colonial-marines-sega/interview-gearbox-software/ (http://www.avpgalaxy.net/games/aliens-colonial-marines-sega/interview-gearbox-software/)
Quote from: Gearbox SoftwareWhat's been shown of the campaign thus far represents a very small part of the overall game. With what we showed at E3 2011, the intent was to highlight as many different aspects of the campaign as possible within the allotted time: atmosphere and tension, gameplay, co-op, sentry guns, etc.
While that demonstration was comprised of things that are in the game, the campaign is a bit more nuanced in terms of pacing.
Problem is that it was confusing for people because it was purposely omitted from all official promotional material at the time:
Quote from: Randy PitchfordThis is really kind of a big moment for us because, you know, we haven't shown the game in action before. And, so you're gonna see what the game actually looks like. Not just screenshots, but the actual gameplay. (...) And that is a quick taste of Aliens: Colonial Marines. It's a section of act 2 of the game.
http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/05/03/gearbox-sega-sued-over-aliens-colonial-marines (http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/05/03/gearbox-sega-sued-over-aliens-colonial-marines)
QuoteUpdate: Gearbox has now commented on the lawsuit, providing the following statement to IGN:
"Attempting to wring a class action lawsuit out of a demonstration is beyond meritless. We continue to support the game, and will defend the rights of entertainers to share their works-in-progress without fear of frivolous litigation."
Additionally, SEGA provided its own statement earlier today:
"SEGA cannot comment on specifics of ongoing litigation, but we are confident that the lawsuit is without merit and we will defend it vigorously."
Quote from: ShadowPred on May 02, 2013, 06:36:10 PM
Quote from: RidgeTop on May 02, 2013, 06:31:44 PM
MAKE ALIEN 3 BETTER
TRUE SEQUEL
CO-OP IS THE SHIT
AN AMAZING STORY UNLIKE ANYTHING BEFORE
etc., etc.
"Bullshit, all of it."
This
Quote from: Gate on May 03, 2013, 05:02:24 AM
The Demo was confirmed not to be made with the game at all, don't you folks remember?
From what i remember Randy Pitchford said that "the demo is stage 2" at the E3 and also Mikey Newman at 2012 Comic Con event said that "the demo is the real thing".
For example go at 02:20
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WUzgNT_Bp0I# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WUzgNT_Bp0I#)
You can find many youtube videos from 2012 events or even A:CM trailers having short clips from the E3 demo.
Also i saw at gearbox forums that Sega and Gearbox respond for the sue
GEARBOX:
"Attempting to wring a class action lawsuit out of a demonstration is beyond meritless. We continue
to support the game, and will defend the rights of entertainers to share their works-in-progress without
fear of frivolous litigation."
SEGA:
"SEGA cannot comment on specifics of ongoing litigation, but we are confident that the lawsuit is
without merit and we will defend it vigorously."
And gearbox now say that this was just a demonstration... don't make me laugh.
Bungie's case was different in which not only was it not able to be achieved within the game but it didn't fit the Halo style of play; it was basically a session of scripted events. What we got in the game, spread across two levels was
far better from a gameplay standpoint. Not to mention that not long after the demo they disclosed it as removed in favor of more achievable and fitting portions. Thing about Colonial Marines is that it's a drastic downgrade in every regard down to the visual fidelity-- they had no stylistic quota to live up to, just a rendered space to jerk the analog sticks around in.
Quote from: ShadowPred on May 02, 2013, 10:23:22 PM
4:00
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3QoJeywvbt0# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3QoJeywvbt0#)
Spoiler
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fgyazo.com%2F709328b5ef0b33a5f99bd3f69963b526.png&hash=19122a9aa6458a22e16ae421a3b01ce4c3142b8f)
"If you believe that everything you're doing is the greatest thing ever all the time, it's absolutely not going to be the greatest thing ever."
-Jason Jones, Bungie
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"[Overly excited, blatantly lying, PR massaging bullshit]"
-Randy Pitchford, Gearbox
lol meritless.
lol work in progress.
I think gear box forgot the part where it was advertised in the demo that it was made from 100% in game footage.
These turds need to be held responsible for something.
Quote from: Nazrel on May 01, 2013, 04:19:00 AM
I wonder what crap Pitchford is going to pull out of his butt on this one.
His head? lol
Sorry, couldn't resist. :P
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Quote from: Nazrel on May 01, 2013, 04:19:00 AM
I wonder what crap Pitchford is going to pull out of his butt on this one.
His head? lol
Sorry, couldn't resist. :P
lmao
Quote from: Space Sweeper on May 03, 2013, 11:23:26 AM
Bungie's case was different in which not only was it not able to be achieved within the game but it didn't fit the Halo style of play; it was basically a session of scripted events. What we got in the game, spread across two levels was far better from a gameplay standpoint. Not to mention that not long after the demo they disclosed it as removed in favor of more achievable and fitting portions. Thing about Colonial Marines is that it's a drastic downgrade in every regard down to the visual fidelity-- they had no stylistic quota to live up to, just a rendered space to jerk the analog sticks around in.
Quote from: ShadowPred on May 02, 2013, 10:23:22 PM
4:00
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3QoJeywvbt0# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3QoJeywvbt0#)
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"If you believe that everything you're doing is the greatest thing ever all the time, it's absolutely not going to be the greatest thing ever."
-Jason Jones, Bungie
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"[Overly excited, blatantly lying, PR massaging bullshit]"
-Randy Pitchford, Gearbox
That spoiler tag is absolutely perfect. Everyone needs to click it.
Maybe the judge will be playing the campaign solo on "ultimate badass" while the jury is sequestered to 6v6 TDM.
Quote from: Predaker on May 03, 2013, 08:18:22 PM
Maybe the judge will be playing the campaign solo on "ultimate badass" while the jury is sequestered to 6v6 TDM.
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Quote from: Bio Mech Hunter on May 03, 2013, 06:10:58 PM
Quote from: Nazrel on May 01, 2013, 04:19:00 AM
I wonder what crap Pitchford is going to pull out of his butt on this one.
His head? lol
Sorry, couldn't resist. :P
Perfect response.
Quote from: Gate on May 03, 2013, 08:29:27 PM
Quote from: Predaker on May 03, 2013, 08:18:22 PM
Maybe the judge will be playing the campaign solo on "ultimate badass" while the jury is sequestered to 6v6 TDM.
http://25.media.tumblr.com/f5105a7c80c0b8b5f0e4d8502345ec69/tumblr_mkceulDxro1r2phzmo2_400.gif
Muhahahahahahahahaha!!!
Quote from: Gate on May 03, 2013, 05:02:24 AM
The Demo was confirmed not to be made with the game at all, don't you folks remember?
But the final product isn't supposed to look inferior to the demos. Both Gameplay wise and graphically. And it was claimed to be in-game too what they showed off.
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Quote from: Gate on May 03, 2013, 05:02:24 AM
The Demo was confirmed not to be made with the game at all, don't you folks remember?
Indeed. I recall it being mentioned in some interviews, etc... And as I've said before, I remember mentioning it too back in 2011 (http://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/index.php?topic=40512.msg1203546#msg1203546).
This is an excerpt from AvPG's interview with GBX in 2012: http://www.avpgalaxy.net/games/aliens-colonial-marines-sega/interview-gearbox-software/ (http://www.avpgalaxy.net/games/aliens-colonial-marines-sega/interview-gearbox-software/)
Quote from: Gearbox SoftwareWhat's been shown of the campaign thus far represents a very small part of the overall game. With what we showed at E3 2011, the intent was to highlight as many different aspects of the campaign as possible within the allotted time: atmosphere and tension, gameplay, co-op, sentry guns, etc.
While that demonstration was comprised of things that are in the game, the campaign is a bit more nuanced in terms of pacing.
Problem is that it was confusing for people because it was purposely omitted from all official promotional material at the time:
Quote from: Randy PitchfordThis is really kind of a big moment for us because, you know, we haven't shown the game in action before. And, so you're gonna see what the game actually looks like. Not just screenshots, but the actual gameplay. (...) And that is a quick taste of Aliens: Colonial Marines. It's a section of act 2 of the game.
And yet, they kept using demo footage for TV commercial all that without revealing the final build. No excuse for that. It is indeed fraud. If they revealed final build before release, people would be disappointed, but would not have gone this far.
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I'm Pitchford. Randy Pitchford. I work for the company. But don't let that fool you, I'm really an okay guy.
Quote from: SuperM on May 04, 2013, 05:46:13 PM
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I'm Pitchford. Randy Pitchford. I work for the company. But don't let that fool you, I'm really an okay guy.
Hah, well done.
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I'm Pitchford. Randy Pitchford. I work for the company. But don't let that fool you, I'm really an okay guy.
I LOL'd. Good job.
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I'm Pitchford. Randy Pitchford. I work for the company. But don't let that fool you, I'm really an okay guy.
Perfect :laugh:
Oh how could we be so blind and fall for all his lies. At least Burke got what he deserved. What will pitchford get?
I hope they learn something from this. I really do.
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Quote from: SuperM on May 04, 2013, 05:46:13 PM
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I'm Pitchford. Randy Pitchford. I work for the company. But don't let that fool you, I'm really an okay guy.
Perfect :laugh:
Oh how could we be so blind and fall for all his lies. At least Burke got what he deserved. What will pitchford get?
I hope they learn something from this. I really do.
Pfffffffffffffffft. Doubt it. :-\
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Quote from: Terx2 on May 05, 2013, 03:55:36 AM
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Spoiler
I'm Pitchford. Randy Pitchford. I work for the company. But don't let that fool you, I'm really an okay guy.
Perfect :laugh:
Oh how could we be so blind and fall for all his lies. At least Burke got what he deserved. What will pitchford get?
I hope they learn something from this. I really do.
Pfffffffffffffffft. Doubt it. :-\
If there's one thing time has shown us again and again, it's that these guys
never learn.
Quote from: Terx2 on May 05, 2013, 03:55:36 AM
Oh how could we be so blind and fall for all his lies. At least Burke got what he deserved. What will pitchford get?
Trilobite tentacle rape.
Or
Predalien rape.
your pick.
Quote from: Cal427eb on May 05, 2013, 04:01:54 AM
Quote from: Terx2 on May 05, 2013, 03:55:36 AM
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Spoiler
I'm Pitchford. Randy Pitchford. I work for the company. But don't let that fool you, I'm really an okay guy.
Perfect :laugh:
Oh how could we be so blind and fall for all his lies. At least Burke got what he deserved. What will pitchford get?
I hope they learn something from this. I really do.
Pfffffffffffffffft. Doubt it. :-\
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QuoteI'm Pitchford. Randy Pitchford. I work for the company. But don't let that fool you, I'm really an okay guy.
The real fun fact here: GBX never delivered anything superb, admit it Borderlands is not a history in the making and GBX cheated already with Duke Nukem and so on...SO basicly they reputation is kinda low...and now they proudly say, dont give an F about they showed something else in the demos to their customers. Why not take the blame at least to maintain honor so they could sell anything yet in the future? They not just cheaters but blatant idiots. No one will hire them as developers imo...well umm maybe another blatant idiot developer would trust with his money in them.
Quote from: szkoki on May 05, 2013, 04:14:27 PM
The real fun fact here: GBX never delivered anything superb, admit it Borderlands is not a history in the making and GBX cheated already with Duke Nukem and so on...SO basicly they reputation is kinda low...and now they proudly say, dont give an F about they showed something else in the demos to their customers. Why not take the blame at least to maintain honor so they could sell anything yet in the future? They not just cheaters but blatant idiots. No one will hire them as developers imo...well umm maybe another blatant idiot developer would trust with his money in them.
I disagree over Borderlands, especially Borderlands 2 which is pretty well awesome, especially in the writing department.
Clearly different writers there than with A:CM.
Quote from: CONKERSBADFURDAY on May 05, 2013, 10:19:20 PM
Quote from: szkoki on May 05, 2013, 04:14:27 PM
The real fun fact here: GBX never delivered anything superb, admit it Borderlands is not a history in the making and GBX cheated already with Duke Nukem and so on...SO basicly they reputation is kinda low...and now they proudly say, dont give an F about they showed something else in the demos to their customers. Why not take the blame at least to maintain honor so they could sell anything yet in the future? They not just cheaters but blatant idiots. No one will hire them as developers imo...well umm maybe another blatant idiot developer would trust with his money in them.
I disagree over Borderlands, especially Borderlands 2 which is pretty well awesome, especially in the writing department.
Clearly different writers there than with A:CM.
I found BL1 pretty underwhelming, I was hoping for a good story, there really wasn't one. When compared to a game like bioshock it just didn't stand up for me, I played through the whole thing with my flatmate and for a coop game it was passable, army of 2 40th day was much better in the coop department though.
Haven't played BL2, don't have as much time as I used to so will skip it out of spite for the massive fail on ACM.
here u go gbx one fan minus, just deny everything, act like a little kid, still everyone knows what u did, your not gonna sell anything, spineless idiots, just wait...
karma awaits, u will see
Quote from: szkoki on May 05, 2013, 11:55:01 PM
here u go gbx one fan minus
btw i dont mind about stealing money or tormenting this franchise and giving us crap..no! thats still acceptable for me, but at least dont try to make me look stupid, okay gbx?! this attitude really pisses me off, not gonna buy from u anything if u think im an idiot who wont care about the fact, that u dont care about we saw and we know we were fooled by u and you just say "shut up it was a work in progress we are untouchable"...
karma awaits, u will see
Come on. Use your grammar.
my country's english tertiary educational system is another story
Quote from: Gate on May 03, 2013, 08:29:27 PM
Quote from: Predaker on May 03, 2013, 08:18:22 PM
Maybe the judge will be playing the campaign solo on "ultimate badass" while the jury is sequestered to 6v6 TDM.
http://25.media.tumblr.com/f5105a7c80c0b8b5f0e4d8502345ec69/tumblr_mkceulDxro1r2phzmo2_400.gif
OMG!!! ROFLMAO XD
This never gets mentioned, but did everyone's memories just drop sharply while I was away?
They played two f**king hours of the game live on IGN before release. The entire beginning of the game, exactly as it was in the final product, for everyone to see.
If that doesn't more than cover their ass, I don't know what does.
I'm glad this lawsuit is out there, if anything just to bring attention to this and make others think twice before deciding to follow practices like the ones used, but I don't really think it will get anywhere other than that. Gearbox can just say "we had some unexpected development problems, things changed, and we decided to show the final product before release."
Now if it gets deeper and probes the money paid to Gearbox for the game and how it was handled, that should add a lot of weight to the claims made by the group pursuing the suit.
Pursuit of the suit.. .. suiting, pursuits in suits. Um.
Nothing will come of this. A whole waste of time by idiots trying to be a hero.
GBX and Sega are right: it is meritless.
Quote from: szkoki on May 05, 2013, 04:14:27 PM
The real fun fact here: GBX never delivered anything superb, admit it Borderlands is not a history in the making and GBX cheated already with Duke Nukem and so on...SO basicly they reputation is kinda low...and now they proudly say, dont give an F about they showed something else in the demos to their customers. Why not take the blame at least to maintain honor so they could sell anything yet in the future? They not just cheaters but blatant idiots. No one will hire them as developers imo...well umm maybe another blatant idiot developer would trust with his money in them.
I beg to differ. Brothers in Arms: Road to Hill 30, Brothers in Arms: Earned in Blood, and Half-Life Opposing Force were all awesome games. I even had a blast with Borderlands 1 and 2, but I think that's mostly because there's very few decent coop games out there these days. Still, they're not even close to an awesome dev team IMO, especially since Pitchford has been a complete ass since they ported Halo to the PC.
Quote from: Nutlink on May 06, 2013, 11:17:26 PM
Quote from: szkoki on May 05, 2013, 04:14:27 PM
The real fun fact here: GBX never delivered anything superb, admit it Borderlands is not a history in the making and GBX cheated already with Duke Nukem and so on...SO basicly they reputation is kinda low...and now they proudly say, dont give an F about they showed something else in the demos to their customers. Why not take the blame at least to maintain honor so they could sell anything yet in the future? They not just cheaters but blatant idiots. No one will hire them as developers imo...well umm maybe another blatant idiot developer would trust with his money in them.
I beg to differ. Brothers in Arms: Road to Hill 30, Brothers in Arms: Earned in Blood, and Half-Life Opposing Force were all awesome games. I even had a blast with Borderlands 1 and 2, but I think that's mostly because there's very few decent coop games out there these days. Still, they're not even close to an awesome dev team IMO, especially since Pitchford has been a complete ass since they ported Halo to the PC.
Valve kept close eyes on Gearbox. That's why. If there is no overseer on them, look at what happen.
Dragging that actual, factual process of what went wrong into the spotlight is something I think needs to happen for them, just on principle. They might have been a decent dev in the past, but their creative leads and QA staff are far too up their own asses to "smell what they are cooking" nowadays, so to speak.
This view goes back to when I practically shat my heart out when I saw they had COMPLETELY "revamped" the art design for Borderlands mid-development. And that was just so their game didn't look too much like ID softwares "RAGE". I do not care for the lazy cel-shaded direction they ultimately went with (just...awful texture work) though I concede it was a fun Co-op loot-a-thon. Funny enough, when I played RAGE i couldn't help but think that "hey, this is what Borderlands was SUPPOSED to look like. Awesome!".
Duke Nukem Forever speaks for itself, but it definitely sets the stage for the bullshit GBX decided to squeeze out for us in all the hype leading up to the Aliens release.
Oh, and IDK if this was ever posted here during release but here: http://www.reddit.com/r/LV426/comments/18ewf4/a_lot_of_you_are_rightfully_upset_at_the_final/ (http://www.reddit.com/r/LV426/comments/18ewf4/a_lot_of_you_are_rightfully_upset_at_the_final/)
A real eye-opener, for sure.
Agreed. I feel the focus should be more on WHY the game turned out so badly and the shady marketing that went along with it.
Do you think it is possible to turn the light on possible embezzlement done by Gearbox?
Quote from: demonbane on May 07, 2013, 02:11:48 AM
Valve kept close eyes on Gearbox. That's why. If there is no overseer on them, look at what happen.
Ok, that covers one game, what about the rest? Like I said, they're not really that great of a team, but they HAVE released good games before.
Quote from: Nutlink on May 08, 2013, 05:34:36 AM
Quote from: demonbane on May 07, 2013, 02:11:48 AM
Valve kept close eyes on Gearbox. That's why. If there is no overseer on them, look at what happen.
Ok, that covers one game, what about the rest? Like I said, they're not really that great of a team, but they HAVE released good games before.
Only Brothers in Arms and Borderland. Yet they still pose problems. Brothers in Arms was far away from how it was advertised.
Borderland... first one constantly gets mentioned for its bad ending. To me, it was bit fun to meh.
And Borderland 2 has people complaining about save issue, and how developers outsource DLC to other developers.
Not to mention the franchise was born from scam.
Rest are at average below. I believe someone covered Gearbox's record. They are not worth keeping. I bet they will do the same for Homeworld IP.
Much talk has been about the footage shown prior to release being WIP footage,
but wasnt it part of the suit that the way GBX & SEGA held reviews under blanket until
before the launch a point too?
I really dont know if that's illegal or not, or even true, just curious.
Quote from: bobby brown on May 01, 2013, 08:06:43 PM
Quote from: Local Trouble on May 01, 2013, 08:04:37 PM
I think you people should just let Randy and Geabox get a pass on this whole thing. What do you say?
Agreed.
the game was a disappointment, we get it.
but stuff like that happen. now, move on.
Look, I don't want anyone to lose their job over this shitty game even that slimy turd Pitchford, but this lawsuit should be regarded as a reminder that consumers aren't mindless cash cows!
I'l like to think this is a fairly good representation of what it must be like in the courtroom for the ACM lawsuit. Randy Pitchford is Batman and the majority of us as the jury :))
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pqyqqfWv9zo#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pqyqqfWv9zo#ws)
I love how we're the ones that are insane.
Yeah...because Gearbox is just out there fighting the good fight and we all deserve to be in Arkham. ::)
I would to hit Randy pitchfraud with a rock
8)
Quote from: ShadowPred on May 10, 2013, 09:16:22 PM
I love how we're the ones that are insane.
Wait wait wait wait.
Dressing up as a bat and throwing bat shaped boomerangs at people at 3AM in the morning is considered sane nowadays?
Be right back, heading to the costume shop now.
Quote from: livin_target on May 12, 2013, 08:39:48 PM
Quote from: ShadowPred on May 10, 2013, 09:16:22 PM
I love how we're the ones that are insane.
Wait wait wait wait.
Dressing up as a bat and throwing bat shaped boomerangs at people at 3AM in the morning is considered sane nowadays?
Be right back, heading to the costume shop now.
Yeah it can be sane considering it is about dealing with crime, not random innocent people.
I would love for those who filed the suit to win. Not because I expect any money from it, but because it sends a message to the entire gaming industry, which is filled with bull-crap like the A:CM scam. Heck, the fact that the suit was filed at all is a good thing; someone was brave enough to finally stand up to the corrupt gaming industry and say "enough!"
we can still play the A:CM multiplayer if Gearbox goes bankrupt right? thats all i want to know.
i don't go nuts for great graphics so ACM's 2008 level graphics has never been a problem for me. what matters to me is the multiplayer gameplay, and from what i see ACM has what i like.
http://www.pcgamesn.com/3d-realms-file-lawsuit-against-gearbox-over-allegedly-unpaid-duke-nukem-forever-royalties (http://www.pcgamesn.com/3d-realms-file-lawsuit-against-gearbox-over-allegedly-unpaid-duke-nukem-forever-royalties)
YEAH THATS THE SPIRIT! Waste those assholes!
Quote from: WinterActual on Jun 13, 2013, 05:50:23 PM
http://www.pcgamesn.com/3d-realms-file-lawsuit-against-gearbox-over-allegedly-unpaid-duke-nukem-forever-royalties (http://www.pcgamesn.com/3d-realms-file-lawsuit-against-gearbox-over-allegedly-unpaid-duke-nukem-forever-royalties)
YEAH THATS THE SPIRIT! Waste those assholes!
In GBX's defense (did I just say that?) they seem to have a solid defense. Ehrm.
Still, I can't say I'm not smiling that more bad press, regardless of where it goes, has befallen those c**ty c**ty c**tolas. :laugh:
Here is what doesn't make sense to me. They had the ability to work with an established franchise like ALIENS, basically a multi million dollar franchise, but instead of working on that they divert resources from that game to work on a broken ass game like Duke Nukem: Forever, so you can obtain the license to a video game franchise that hasn't been relevant for over a decade only to end up taking the blame and lose money?
Quote from: WinterActual on Jun 13, 2013, 05:50:23 PM
http://www.pcgamesn.com/3d-realms-file-lawsuit-against-gearbox-over-allegedly-unpaid-duke-nukem-forever-royalties (http://www.pcgamesn.com/3d-realms-file-lawsuit-against-gearbox-over-allegedly-unpaid-duke-nukem-forever-royalties)
YEAH THATS THE SPIRIT! Waste those assholes!
I ahhh don't know how to respond.
Bumping. I haven't heard of any update regarding the lawsuit. It usually takes a year for a case this iirc.
Does anyone have any idea?
Haven't heard a peep in months about this thing.
http://www.tssznews.com/2013/10/04/aliens-colonial-marines-lawsuit-to-move-forward/ (http://www.tssznews.com/2013/10/04/aliens-colonial-marines-lawsuit-to-move-forward/)
Haven't found any more news other than this from October of this year.
That's very recent in terms of courts... Interesting, thank you.
I know I wont buy another Gearbox game again. While I enjoyed A:cm and it only cost me $18 shipped, I can see all that is MISSING from what they showed. Barely any Marines unlike the demo, and no Bots only a belated Bughunt which there should have been more of and included in the game, especially after they realized that the outsourced company screwed up the SP.
On another note guys I made a Mod for A:CM to give the Pulse Rifle 95rds among other changes you can check out the mod here and its for the LAST patch they just released so it will work. I was really sick of 60rds max, I find the small changes I made really improve the gameplay more, and for those that play Bughunt it will be a blast.
1. Pulse Rifle ammo now 95rds
2. Pulse Rifle Rate of Fire 900rds per minute
3. Pulse Rifle Max Ammo now 380 to equal 4 95rd mags
4. Smartgun Rate of fire increased to 1200rds per minute and removed the waste of 2 rounds used up for 1 bullet fired. They really nerfed the smartgun with that.
5. Pulse and Smartgun modified for MP and SP play.
6. Made Friendly AI have equal damage when using Pulse Rifle the Friendly AI's had 50% of the enemy AI's!
The mod can be downloaded here.
http://www.moddb.com/mods/firefly426/downloads (http://www.moddb.com/mods/firefly426/downloads)
Can you make it so that even with the updated fire rate the PR to sound as it sounds by default?
Quote from: ShadowPred on Nov 04, 2013, 10:47:48 AM
http://www.tssznews.com/2013/10/04/aliens-colonial-marines-lawsuit-to-move-forward/ (http://www.tssznews.com/2013/10/04/aliens-colonial-marines-lawsuit-to-move-forward/)
Haven't found any more news other than this from October of this year.
Thanks! Good to see this thing is moving forward. Not gonna sleaze your way out of this one, Sega.
Quote from: WinterActual on Nov 08, 2013, 08:10:39 PM
Can you make it so that even with the updated fire rate the PR to sound as it sounds by default?
Don't worry it sounds the same. Increased Fire just makes more rounds go toward the baddies. lol
P.S. The mod is now available to all on this link, so enjoy and let me know what you think.
Lets hope Sega doesn't sleaze out of this one, but I fear either way we will lose. This game has so much potential with an SDK and that is unlikely to happen as NO Sega game I heard of releases an SDK. Remember also all the games are going to console for quick cash, they can careless about franchise etc. Corporations are out of control, you can see this with the greed and the problems we are having today in the financial world, even the IMF is pissed off at companies and their greed ruining the economies.