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Posted by Necronomicon II
 - Jun 05, 2023, 12:28:26 PM
Honestly the sight of Fassbender fellating a hugger, dayum 🤤. It would've been totally weird, because he'd want it to happen. 😂 Gives birth to his creation, but his creation rejects him. It's too neat, yeah, and shoehorning it into such a tight timeframe would've been rife with problems.

Thankfully there's a more interesting direction now with Fede's side-quel.   
Posted by skhellter
 - May 14, 2023, 10:20:15 AM
In the covenant script - he's the one that set up Shaw's signal as a lure.
(unexplained in the film but it's most likely also intended to be that).

Seems to be his modus operandi.

As of right now - i'm pretty sure that David was responsible for the mess in LV426 but i don't need to see all the details play out.
this also frees David for the possibility of more appearances
Posted by SiL
 - May 14, 2023, 03:12:26 AM
Quote from: Mike's Monsters on May 13, 2023, 09:52:24 PM
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on May 13, 2023, 09:45:50 PMAlongside all of the juicy details on this series (would really like to see it release some day, even though I'm usually not super hot on AVP as a concept by and large – the details presented here have my curiosity piqued), I'm also really chewing on that little "Destiny" mention in the podcast...

Anything anyone here might be able to shed a tad more light on regarding that? I hadn't heard that name before this podcast.

Destiny was indeed the name of the next Alien film, the final in Ridley's prequel trilogy. Prometheus was also going to be rebranded to ALIEN: Prometheus to match ALIEN: Covenant and ALIEN: Destiny before they killed it all.

Some plot points were that David was going to be eventually Facehugged and that would lead into the biomechanical Xeno design we know now. He was going to become the true father of that xenomorph breed. Somehow would have lead directly into the Nostromo landing on LV-426. David probably was the one who set off the distress call.

They had a hard time lining it up with the timeline because of how fossilized everything is in ALIEN when the crew finds the Jockey. There's probably more I know, just need to try to find my notes.
Warning* Which makes less sense if David did it - surely he'd send a distress to lure people?

Great to see they were going for the worst possible outcome of the David arc, really feel like a bullet was dodged.
Posted by Nightmare Asylum
 - May 14, 2023, 12:59:06 AM
Spoiler

[close]

You can't just leave me hanging like this... :'( Someone give Guzikowski whatever he needs to follow up on Wolves, please...
Posted by [cancerblack]
 - May 14, 2023, 12:54:58 AM
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on May 14, 2023, 12:36:10 AM
Quote from: Immortan Jonesy on May 14, 2023, 12:32:57 AM
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on May 14, 2023, 12:10:43 AMbut I've also (half-jokingly) talked for years about the initial biomechanical Alien somehow being birthed from David, and the likely very weird, probably very convoluted string of events that would have led to that particular outcome could have been very interesting to get to see play out on screen, even if it doesn't totally mesh with the original film.


I remember post-Covenant Ridley talked a little bit about some remaining Engineers being pissed at David and going after him. Any idea if that would have still held true in this "Alien: Destiny" iteration of the Covenant sequel? Maybe one of them might have even been the particular Space Jockey from the chair in Alien, if the plan was to link so directly with the original film.

We're going to have to settle for this😅

Spoiler
[close]

I just want season 3... :'(  :'(  :'(

;_;
Posted by Nightmare Asylum
 - May 14, 2023, 12:36:10 AM
Quote from: Immortan Jonesy on May 14, 2023, 12:32:57 AM
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on May 14, 2023, 12:10:43 AMbut I've also (half-jokingly) talked for years about the initial biomechanical Alien somehow being birthed from David, and the likely very weird, probably very convoluted string of events that would have led to that particular outcome could have been very interesting to get to see play out on screen, even if it doesn't totally mesh with the original film.


I remember post-Covenant Ridley talked a little bit about some remaining Engineers being pissed at David and going after him. Any idea if that would have still held true in this "Alien: Destiny" iteration of the Covenant sequel? Maybe one of them might have even been the particular Space Jockey from the chair in Alien, if the plan was to link so directly with the original film.

We're going to have to settle for this😅

Spoiler
[close]

I just want season 3... :'(  :'(  :'(
Posted by Immortan Jonesy
 - May 14, 2023, 12:32:57 AM
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on May 14, 2023, 12:10:43 AMbut I've also (half-jokingly) talked for years about the initial biomechanical Alien somehow being birthed from David, and the likely very weird, probably very convoluted string of events that would have led to that particular outcome could have been very interesting to get to see play out on screen, even if it doesn't totally mesh with the original film.


I remember post-Covenant Ridley talked a little bit about some remaining Engineers being pissed at David and going after him. Any idea if that would have still held true in this "Alien: Destiny" iteration of the Covenant sequel? Maybe one of them might have even been the particular Space Jockey from the chair in Alien, if the plan was to link so directly with the original film.

We're going to have to settle for this😅

Spoiler
[close]
Posted by Nightmare Asylum
 - May 14, 2023, 12:10:43 AM
Not sure how I feel about it leading so directly into Alien like that (I kind of really like the idea of David still being out there with his experiments, even as late as post-Alien 3), but I've also (half-jokingly) talked for years about the initial biomechanical Alien somehow being birthed from David, and the likely very weird, probably very convoluted string of events that would have led to that particular outcome could have been very interesting to get to see play out on screen, even if it doesn't totally mesh with the original film. Very likely could/would have been a mess, but I'll never not be curious about this third prequel film (and how it might have evolved over the course of its production).

I remember post-Covenant Ridley talked a little bit about some remaining Engineers being pissed at David and going after him. Any idea if that would have still held true in this "Alien: Destiny" iteration of the Covenant sequel? Maybe one of them might have even been the particular Space Jockey from the chair in Alien, if the plan was to link so directly with the original film.
Posted by Mike’s Monsters
 - May 13, 2023, 10:08:45 PM
I remember making a very frowny face when I was being told the details about Destiny.
Posted by BlueMarsalis79
 - May 13, 2023, 09:54:55 PM
That's so trite honestly, I'm glad it did not happen.

And what an awful set of random titles.
Posted by Mike’s Monsters
 - May 13, 2023, 09:52:24 PM
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on May 13, 2023, 09:45:50 PMAlongside all of the juicy details on this series (would really like to see it release some day, even though I'm usually not super hot on AVP as a concept by and large – the details presented here have my curiosity piqued), I'm also really chewing on that little "Destiny" mention in the podcast...

Anything anyone here might be able to shed a tad more light on regarding that? I hadn't heard that name before this podcast.

Destiny was indeed the name of the next Alien film, the final in Ridley's prequel trilogy. Prometheus was also going to be rebranded to ALIEN: Prometheus to match ALIEN: Covenant and ALIEN: Destiny before they killed it all.

Some plot points were that David was going to be eventually Facehugged and that would lead into the biomechanical Xeno design we know now. He was going to become the true father of that xenomorph breed. Somehow would have lead directly into the Nostromo landing on LV-426. David probably was the one who set off the distress call.

They had a hard time lining it up with the timeline because of how fossilized everything is in ALIEN when the crew finds the Jockey. There's probably more I know, just need to try to find my notes.
Posted by Nightmare Asylum
 - May 13, 2023, 09:45:50 PM
Alongside all of the juicy details on this series (would really like to see it release some day, even though I'm usually not super hot on AVP as a concept by and large – the details presented here have my curiosity piqued), I'm also really chewing on that little "Destiny" mention in the podcast...

Anything anyone here might be able to shed a tad more light on regarding that? I hadn't heard that name before this podcast.
Posted by skhellter
 - May 13, 2023, 03:19:53 PM
Aramaki's Traitor of Mars movie brought back Robocop and ST's writer Ed Neumeier. It fits right at home tonally with the original movie.

Not high budget stuff but well made and solid.
Posted by Mike’s Monsters
 - May 13, 2023, 02:53:48 PM
Good to know the info is finally getting out there. Was considering making a video myself giving all the info Josh gave me when I'd met with him last year. Maybe this thing will finally see the light of day.
Posted by Nightmare Asylum
 - May 12, 2023, 09:40:50 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on May 12, 2023, 09:34:22 PMI've got it all written up and ready to go. Just hoping Josh can clarify some stuff for me before I post.

Excellent. Loved listening to it all, and can't wait to read what you have down with some extra clarification. 8)
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