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Title: Predator: Hunting Grounds Is Released Today!
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Apr 24, 2020, 09:33:46 AM

After a nearly exact 15 year wait, Predator is returning to main stream gaming platforms with Illfonic’s Predator: Hunting Grounds! First announced back in May 2019, Predator: Hunting Grounds puts players in the boots of either the Predator or Fireteam members in an asymmetrical multiplayer experience that is framed around the very story formula of the original Predator!

“Predator: Hunting Grounds is an immersive asymmetrical shooter set in remote areas, where the Predator stalks the most challenging prey. Play as a member of an elite Fireteam and complete paramilitary operations before the Predator finds you. Or, play as the Predator to hunt the most worthy prey, choosing from your vast array of deadly alien tech to collect your trophies, one by one.”

Predator: Hunting Grounds is available to purchase on the Epic Store (for PC) or on the PlayStation Store! Alien vs. Predator Galaxy and Illfonic have also teamed up to give members of the Alien vs. Predator Galaxy community a chance to win one of two codes for Hunting Grounds on the PS4!

Though we don’t yet know what’s in store for us, we’ll be seeing Predator: Hunting Grounds first content update towards the end of May. Previously speaking about post-release support, Illfonic’s Charles Brungardt wrote in the PlayStation Blog:

"Speaking of planned updates, we view the launch of Predator: Hunting Grounds as just the beginning. What that means to us, at IllFonic, is that we ​can continue to drop new content post launch. We do have a roadmap in place for this already. In fact, you will see the first content update​ — which will be a free one — go live a little over a month from now. And the​re will be more content updates after that. These will include many great surprises. This is part of why our community forums are so special to us. We are listening and taking your feedback to heart, whether it be found bugs or comments on the game."

If you don’t already (why not?!) head on over to the Alien vs. Predator Galaxy YouTube Channel where you’ll be able to check out our livestreams of Predator: Hunting Ground! We’ll also be reviewing the game on our podcast in early May so keep an eye out for that one! We also have a PlayStation Community where you can hook up with fellow AvP Galaxy community members to get your Predator: Hunting Grounds fix!

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Title: Re: Predator: Hunting Grounds Is Released Today!
Post by: Phobos on Apr 24, 2020, 10:13:37 AM
Awesome! It's just a shame that It won't be coming to Steam.
Title: Re: Predator: Hunting Grounds Is Released Today!
Post by: Drukathi on Apr 24, 2020, 12:38:00 PM
I want more feedback before buying.
Title: Re: Predator: Hunting Grounds Is Released Today!
Post by: Voodoo Magic on Apr 24, 2020, 01:11:26 PM
I felt improvements across the board since the trial. Shocking how different it felt. I have to get more playing time in, but so far, so good!  :)
Title: Re: Predator: Hunting Grounds Is Released Today!
Post by: molasar on Apr 24, 2020, 01:19:24 PM
Have you guys checked a mini art book? Any interesting concept arts?
Title: Re: Predator: Hunting Grounds Is Released Today!
Post by: Voodoo Magic on Apr 24, 2020, 01:36:08 PM
I quickly went through it I think around 1:30 in the morning. You're prohibited from screenshoting it but I did take a couple camera pics. Nothing too compelling, but I did find this interesting:



I hope this is in a planned map we can play!

Also a closer look at the female Predator...


Title: Re: Predator: Hunting Grounds Is Released Today!
Post by: SuperiorIronman on Apr 24, 2020, 01:36:36 PM
Jungle Hunter for those curious is pretty close to the original though I think Scar's helmet had some influence on this. The helmet looks a bit too angular for JH as his was more rounded and Scar's had the sharper lines. The helmet looks to be a hybrid of both
Jungle Hunter cannot be changed with armor color nor can the skin pattern or dreadlock color change. The mask despite this can be swapped and add warpaint. I'm also not 100% but I think the wristblade gauntlet is also the Ilfonic version and not JH.

The P1 plasmacaster is also for some reason non existent here and I don't know why.

Title: Re: Predator: Hunting Grounds Is Released Today!
Post by: molasar on Apr 24, 2020, 01:41:33 PM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Apr 24, 2020, 01:36:08 PM
I quickly went through it I think around 1:30 in the morning. You're prohibited from screenshoting it but I did take a couple camera pics. Nothing too compelling, but I did find this interesting:



I hope this is in a planned map we can play!

Also a closer look at the female Predator...




Thanks Voodoo Magic. I believe the first screenshot was a concept art for the backwater map.

Title: Re: Predator: Hunting Grounds Is Released Today!
Post by: Voodoo Magic on Apr 24, 2020, 01:54:27 PM
Is there a hut structure like that already in play that I missed then?
Title: Re: Predator: Hunting Grounds Is Released Today!
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Apr 24, 2020, 01:58:31 PM
Yeah, that's the coastal town from Backwater.
Title: Re: Predator: Hunting Grounds Is Released Today!
Post by: Kailem on Apr 24, 2020, 02:02:56 PM
Yeah it's concept art for the Backwater map.

On the technical side things definitely seemed mostly improved. The framerate seems better along with the matchmaking, though there still seem to be bugs telling you you've got new stuff unlocked when you've already looked at it all, as well as unlocking field lockers. And the occasional times when the game literally just freezes that I mentioned in another thread is just terrible. They need to sort that one out asap because as the Predator it can lead to you going from fine to almost dead because the fire team is shooting you all the time you're unable to move or even tell what's going on.

It also felt like playing as the Predator was a lot harder, though part of that was definitely me doing stupid stuff and also probably going up against people who had pre-ordered and waited up to play it, so they knew what they were doing. It felt like whenever I was the Predator I was going up against these "MLG Hunting Grounds esports pro team" wannabes, yet when I played the fire team I mostly got paired with useless teammates who just split up, ran off and never shot the Predator when he jumped down and swung at people.

Speaking of the melee it feels really weak, possibly even weaker than in the trial. The elder sword takes so many hits to down someone, and uses up a lot of stamina, so it doesn't really feel any better than the wrist blades, which are also really weak. I cornered a lone player in a room and hit him three or four times with the elder sword and he just ran off, and because my stamina was all gone from using it I could only follow and do one swing every few seconds, which still didn't bring him down even though I hit him about three more times. So that kinda sucked, especially since you don't really have any choices of weapons early on.

On the plus side though the plasma caster is amazing if you can hit a fully powered-up shot. It can down someone instantly. With how crappy the melee seems to be and how good that shot is, I've come around to thinking the scout might not be such a bad class after all, since at least there you're not even going to want to use melee.

Also confirmation of there only being the three maps from the trial was disappointing, and given Illfonic's record with Friday the 13th, also entirely expected. It seems they haven't learned from their mistakes there.

Overall my first night playing was more frustrating than anything, mostly because of the fact that I didn't win a single match against a full fire team, some of which was straight-up due to the game screwing me over with bugs that cost me the match, or melee that felt like I was trying to knock over a tree with a wet newspaper. I certainly don't want to be steamrolling over full teams, but having every match end with half my kills coming from the self destruct definitely wasn't the best.

So yeah, a more frustrating first go at it than I would have liked, but hopefully things will go a bit better next time; if only because they can't go much worse! :laugh:
Title: Re: Predator: Hunting Grounds Is Released Today!
Post by: Voodoo Magic on Apr 24, 2020, 02:21:42 PM
Hmm. I melee killed a couple of the fireteam with my gauntlet blades last night and the task felt as long as before. Longer than reality would take, but the same as the trial. I haven't tried the sword yet. What are you comparing it to? Wasn't the sword unavailable during the trial or am I just mis-remembering?

The freezing sucks. Glad I didn't experience that.

Now is it me or did many of the animations look better? From AI to simply firing our weapons, it appeared more polished.

Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Apr 24, 2020, 01:58:31 PM
Yeah, that's the coastal town from Backwater.

Ack! My willingness to get inebriated during game play is my kryptonite!  Can you explore those wooden walks and enter huts?

I wonder if you'll end up being right about Dutch being just on those OWLF recordings.
Title: Re: Predator: Hunting Grounds Is Released Today!
Post by: Kailem on Apr 24, 2020, 02:27:49 PM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Apr 24, 2020, 02:21:42 PM
Hmm. I melee killed a couple of the fireteam with my gauntlet blades last night and the task felt as long as before. Longer than reality would take, but the same as the trial. I haven't tried the sword yet. What are you comparing it to? Wasn't the sword unavailable during the trial or am I just mis-remembering?

Yeah you're right that it wasn't available, I'm just comparing it to the wrist blades. It seems to take about the same amount of hits to down someone (possibly even one or two more), yet drains your stamina super fast so you're lucky to be able to do that before becoming exhausted, at which point yo can't really use it properly anymore.

Plus it has way more animation priority that can sometimes leave you swinging wildly at nothing if you're not close enough, and you have to manually equip it every time you land, unlike the wrist blades which can be used with the plasma caster equipped, so you can use them immediately after coming down from the trees, which you can't do with the sword.

It just seems worse in every way than the wrist blades to the point where I'm not even sure why it's there.
Title: Re: Predator: Hunting Grounds Is Released Today!
Post by: Voodoo Magic on Apr 24, 2020, 02:35:07 PM
Hmm, I see. It sounds useless. Well once I get some swordplay experience I'll be sure to share my thoughts.
Title: Re: Predator: Hunting Grounds Is Released Today!
Post by: Kailem on Apr 24, 2020, 02:45:53 PM
Yeah definitely let me know if you're able to use it any more effectively than I was, because I'd certainly like it to be good! :laugh:
Title: Re: Predator: Hunting Grounds Is Released Today!
Post by: Mig pilot 66 on Apr 24, 2020, 02:59:20 PM
What a god awful  game. Game play is super clunky and confusing and the visuals are like a game from 15 years ago. AVP2010 leaves it in the shade. I hope I can get a refund. :'(
Title: Re: Predator: Hunting Grounds Is Released Today!
Post by: Voodoo Magic on Apr 24, 2020, 03:09:35 PM
Quote from: Kailem on Apr 24, 2020, 02:45:53 PM
Yeah definitely let me know if you're able to use it any more effectively than I was, because I'd certainly like it to be good! :laugh:

Title: Re: Predator: Hunting Grounds Is Released Today!
Post by: Galactus123 on Apr 24, 2020, 03:11:23 PM
Great game. I have played for few hours and its fun. I like the Predator gameplay but I got stuck on a tree few times. Also I wish the game would let use hear the full mission briefing when playing as the Fireteam. The match usually starts before the person has stopped speaking.
Title: Re: Predator: Hunting Grounds Is Released Today!
Post by: Kailem on Apr 24, 2020, 03:50:09 PM
Oh yeah, on a positive note they definitely made the slam attack much, much better. It has a wider area of effect and does more damage. I downed a couple of people lasted night from jumping down and slamming next to them.

Just remember to keep that trigger held the whole way down or else you'll do what I did sometimes and cancel the slam halfway into the jump after mistakenly thinking you've held the trigger down long enough to have it locked in.
Title: Re: Predator: Hunting Grounds Is Released Today!
Post by: Voodoo Magic on Apr 24, 2020, 04:19:06 PM
Quote from: Kailem on Apr 24, 2020, 03:50:09 PM
Oh yeah, on a positive note they definitely made the slam attack much, much better. It has a wider area of effect and does more damage. I downed a couple of people lasted night from jumping down and slamming next to them.

Yeah I noticed that.

Also they removed the crouch slide from the tutorial. I'm not even certain you can still do it in-game.
Title: Re: Predator: Hunting Grounds Is Released Today!
Post by: Kailem on Apr 24, 2020, 04:28:18 PM
It was still there when I did it, though I'm not really sure why since it doesn't server any real purpose.
Title: Re: Predator: Hunting Grounds Is Released Today!
Post by: Voodoo Magic on Apr 24, 2020, 05:03:02 PM
Quote from: Kailem on Apr 24, 2020, 04:28:18 PM
It was still there when I did it, though I'm not really sure why since it doesn't server any real purpose.

Really? My tutorial didn't teach me the slide at all, and I did it twice (because I was d*cking around the first time so I ran out of time). Weird...
Title: Re: Predator: Hunting Grounds Is Released Today!
Post by: Kailem on Apr 24, 2020, 05:07:10 PM
For some reason on mine the "turn to next page" icons from the tutorial were missing when the description text would pop up, so it might be that you skipped over it without realising.

You can definitely still do it though, as pointless as it is.
Title: Re: Predator: Hunting Grounds Is Released Today!
Post by: Voodoo Magic on Apr 24, 2020, 05:09:42 PM
Maybe it's just different on the freeze-less version. ;) ;D
Title: Re: Predator: Hunting Grounds Is Released Today!
Post by: Kailem on Apr 24, 2020, 05:12:06 PM
I'll trade you my slide for your lack of freezes.
Title: Re: Predator: Hunting Grounds Is Released Today!
Post by: SteveC484 on Apr 24, 2020, 05:34:58 PM
Hi guys, I was a frequent player of Friday the 13th and this game is very similar. Just fyi, if we go by that games cycle, quick play is going to be mess pretty quickly with glitches, trolls ect. However, when played right F13 (and I think this game) was a ton of fun. Best bet will be to find people (preferably with mics) and run private matches.
Title: Re: Predator: Hunting Grounds Is Released Today!
Post by: GreybackElder on Apr 24, 2020, 06:56:14 PM
I hope the queue to play as the predator gets fixed. I've been waiting for 10 minutes.  Other than that it's okay. My pc craps out a little when action gets crazy and it's freezes up. I don't know if this is a GPU issue or an internet issue. Is everyone else experiencing this??
Title: Re: Predator: Hunting Grounds Is Released Today!
Post by: ROYCE_THE_PREDATOR on Apr 24, 2020, 07:43:16 PM
I preordered my copy from amazon last night, got my code for jungle hunter and ole painless. I can't wait to get it.

Title: Re: Predator: Hunting Grounds Is Released Today!
Post by: SteveC484 on Apr 24, 2020, 08:05:27 PM
Quote from: GreybackElder on Apr 24, 2020, 06:56:14 PM
I hope the queue to play as the predator gets fixed. I've been waiting for 10 minutes.  Other than that it's okay. My pc craps out a little when action gets crazy and it's freezes up. I don't know if this is a GPU issue or an internet issue. Is everyone else experiencing this??

It craps out on PS4 as well
Title: Re: Predator: Hunting Grounds Is Released Today!
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Apr 24, 2020, 08:36:24 PM


We're now livestreaming for a couple of hours.
Title: Re: Predator: Hunting Grounds Is Released Today!
Post by: Kailem on Apr 24, 2020, 08:48:09 PM
 Still want people to hop on? I'm online now if you want/need an extra player.
Title: Re: Predator: Hunting Grounds Is Released Today!
Post by: SteveC484 on Apr 24, 2020, 09:46:06 PM
the plasma caster is nasty once you get the hang of it
Title: Re: Predator: Hunting Grounds Is Released Today!
Post by: bendinglight on Apr 24, 2020, 10:06:40 PM
Quote from: SteveC484 on Apr 24, 2020, 09:46:06 PM
the plasma caster is nasty once you get the hang of it

The shoulder variety or the hand-held version? I find it pretty ineffective unless players are standing still (which besides the AI, they don't).


Quote from: GreybackElder on Apr 24, 2020, 06:56:14 PM
I hope the queue to play as the predator gets fixed. I've been waiting for 10 minutes.  Other than that it's okay. My pc craps out a little when action gets crazy and it's freezes up. I don't know if this is a GPU issue or an internet issue. Is everyone else experiencing this??

Agreed - I consistently have to wait around 15 minutes to get matched with players.
Title: Re: Predator: Hunting Grounds Is Released Today!
Post by: SteveC484 on Apr 24, 2020, 10:29:11 PM
Quote from: bendinglight on Apr 24, 2020, 10:06:40 PM
Quote from: SteveC484 on Apr 24, 2020, 09:46:06 PM
the plasma caster is nasty once you get the hang of it

The shoulder variety or the hand-held version? I find it pretty ineffective unless players are standing still (which besides the AI, they don't).


Quote from: GreybackElder on Apr 24, 2020, 06:56:14 PM
I hope the queue to play as the predator gets fixed. I've been waiting for 10 minutes.  Other than that it's okay. My pc craps out a little when action gets crazy and it's freezes up. I don't know if this is a GPU issue or an internet issue. Is everyone else experiencing this??

Agreed - I consistently have to wait around 15 minutes to get matched with players.

The shoulder. Hold it to charge it to max before you aim at them. Then put the dots on them just before you release. Instantly puts the down.
Title: Re: Predator: Hunting Grounds Is Released Today!
Post by: bendinglight on Apr 24, 2020, 10:53:56 PM
Quote from: SteveC484 on Apr 24, 2020, 10:29:11 PM
Quote from: bendinglight on Apr 24, 2020, 10:06:40 PM
Quote from: SteveC484 on Apr 24, 2020, 09:46:06 PM
the plasma caster is nasty once you get the hang of it

The shoulder variety or the hand-held version? I find it pretty ineffective unless players are standing still (which besides the AI, they don't).


Quote from: GreybackElder on Apr 24, 2020, 06:56:14 PM
I hope the queue to play as the predator gets fixed. I've been waiting for 10 minutes.  Other than that it's okay. My pc craps out a little when action gets crazy and it's freezes up. I don't know if this is a GPU issue or an internet issue. Is everyone else experiencing this??

Agreed - I consistently have to wait around 15 minutes to get matched with players.

The shoulder. Hold it to charge it to max before you aim at them. Then put the dots on them just before you release. Instantly puts the down.

Gotcha - thanks for the tip!
Title: Re: Predator: Hunting Grounds Is Released Today!
Post by: SteveC484 on Apr 24, 2020, 11:55:44 PM
Anyone else sometimes have a hard times finding the fire team as Pred? Once and a while I just can't find them for 2/3rds of the match. Not sure if I'm getting turned around traveling or what. As fire team sometimes I go the whole match without seeing the Pred. Think they need to add something in so it's easier to track. It benefits both sides because who as the fire team really want to play without Pred interaction?
Title: Re: Predator: Hunting Grounds Is Released Today!
Post by: bendinglight on Apr 24, 2020, 11:58:00 PM
Quote from: SteveC484 on Apr 24, 2020, 11:55:44 PM
Anyone else sometimes have a hard times finding the fire team as Pred? Once and a while I just can't find them for 2/3rds of the match. Not sure if I'm getting turned around traveling or what. As fire team sometimes I go the whole match without seeing the Pred. Think they need to add something in so it's easier to track. It benefits both sides because who as the fire team really want to play without Pred interaction?

Have you tried doing a target isolation? That shows a red circle/blob on your screen of where the direction that the fire team is located.


Starting a private match if anyone wants to join.
Title: Re: Predator: Hunting Grounds Is Released Today!
Post by: SteveC484 on Apr 25, 2020, 12:15:41 AM
Quote from: bendinglight on Apr 24, 2020, 11:58:00 PM
Quote from: SteveC484 on Apr 24, 2020, 11:55:44 PM
Anyone else sometimes have a hard times finding the fire team as Pred? Once and a while I just can't find them for 2/3rds of the match. Not sure if I'm getting turned around traveling or what. As fire team sometimes I go the whole match without seeing the Pred. Think they need to add something in so it's easier to track. It benefits both sides because who as the fire team really want to play without Pred interaction?

Have you tried doing a target isolation? That shows a red circle/blob on your screen of where the direction that the fire team is located.


Starting a private match if anyone wants to join.

yeah i use that but then I lose them occasionally.
Title: Re: Predator: Hunting Grounds Is Released Today!
Post by: SuperiorIronman on Apr 25, 2020, 01:23:57 AM
Just played a match and lost the fireteam. My solution since I was familiar with the maps having played the trial was to search the main locations since you can maneuver way more ground as the Predator. The fireteam should stop in at least one of them so it's only a matter of finding out where they're holding out.

Still getting used to the plasmacaster but I find that during the fire-fights it's best to actually send some low powered shots rather than a full charge because they can't take cover typically from you and the A.I. Even if you miss they're still getting shot and running through stims and healthpacks so it really is best to stay on them during those situations even if it is tempting to get the free kills on the A.I.
Title: Re: Predator: Hunting Grounds Is Released Today!
Post by: Kailem on Apr 25, 2020, 01:42:50 AM
Quote from: SteveC484 on Apr 25, 2020, 12:15:41 AM
Quote from: bendinglight on Apr 24, 2020, 11:58:00 PM
Quote from: SteveC484 on Apr 24, 2020, 11:55:44 PM
Anyone else sometimes have a hard times finding the fire team as Pred? Once and a while I just can't find them for 2/3rds of the match. Not sure if I'm getting turned around traveling or what. As fire team sometimes I go the whole match without seeing the Pred. Think they need to add something in so it's easier to track. It benefits both sides because who as the fire team really want to play without Pred interaction?

Have you tried doing a target isolation? That shows a red circle/blob on your screen of where the direction that the fire team is located.


Starting a private match if anyone wants to join.

yeah i use that but then I lose them occasionally.

Since they delayed the amount of time until you can use of the target scan at the beginning of a match now, if everyone on the fire team muds up as soon as it begins then by the time your scan is available you won't get that red dot.

It has to be the full team since if even one person isn't covered in mud you'll get that big red dot showing you where they are, but if a team knows what they're doing it can often take longer to find them as a result.
Title: Re: Predator: Hunting Grounds Is Released Today!
Post by: GreybackElder on Apr 25, 2020, 02:00:42 AM
Playing as a pred is WAY HARDER than I anticipated! Getting floored by the fireteams. lol.
Title: Re: Predator: Hunting Grounds Is Released Today!
Post by: bendinglight on Apr 25, 2020, 02:53:51 AM
Quote from: GreybackElder on Apr 25, 2020, 02:00:42 AM
Playing as a pred is WAY HARDER than I anticipated! Getting floored by the fireteams. lol.

haha same here :)
Title: Re: Predator: Hunting Grounds Is Released Today!
Post by: SuperiorIronman on Apr 25, 2020, 03:53:29 AM
So about the Elder Sword...,

I really like it.
The Predator has a perk which boosts melee damage strength so if you rush the enemy you can get in some quick kills with it. The Fireteam is conditioned to look up since the Predator primarily uses the trees to travel so rushing someone on the ground or getting in a swipe while they're running away is always good.

Just ran a match doing that and I really like it. Also anybody notice the Predator's laughter going 150% at the end? What I mean is I can't tell if it was someones mic or the Predator because the laugh went from a laugh to "AAAAUGGGHHHHH" right at the explosion and I've never been prouder of this thing overacting. Currently it seems pretty common for the Predator to nuke everybody but I think I have my favorite self-destruct now.
Title: Re: Predator: Hunting Grounds Is Released Today!
Post by: ROYCE_THE_PREDATOR on Apr 25, 2020, 05:08:08 AM
I have a feeling we are going to get Dutch as a playable marine dlc. Arnold did voice overs for the game not too long ago. If that's the case I can't wait. Wow to have Jungle Hunter back and Dutch, that's pure awesomeness. I hope we get major Dutch
Title: Re: Predator: Hunting Grounds Is Released Today!
Post by: SteveC484 on Apr 25, 2020, 05:43:59 PM
The Predator really needs some help in some way. He's losing seven or eight out of ten matches easy.

edit: I've tried with melee perks and long range perks. A fireteam that sticks together is just too strong. Predator needs more health and strength.
Title: Re: Predator: Hunting Grounds Is Released Today!
Post by: Xiggz456 on Apr 25, 2020, 10:27:37 PM
Just picked up a physical copy! Looking forward to giving it a go!!!
Title: Re: Predator: Hunting Grounds Is Released Today!
Post by: SteveC484 on Apr 26, 2020, 02:40:38 AM
HUGE Predator Tip: Use the R1 leap to move around stalking soldiers, not running or predkour. It makes less noise and is hard to aim at. Also seems to confuse the soldiers when going in and out of cloak leaping. I've won my last 9/10 as Pred doing this.
Title: Re: Predator: Hunting Grounds Is Released Today!
Post by: bendinglight on Apr 26, 2020, 04:48:46 AM
Quote from: SteveC484 on Apr 26, 2020, 02:40:38 AM
HUGE Predator Tip: Use the R1 leap to move around stalking soldiers, not running or predkour. It makes less noise and is hard to aim at. Also seems to confuse the soldiers when going in and out of cloak leaping. I've won my last 9/10 as Pred doing this.

Thanks for the tip!
Title: Re: Predator: Hunting Grounds Is Released Today!
Post by: Galactus123 on Apr 26, 2020, 08:45:47 AM
Quote from: SteveC484 on Apr 24, 2020, 11:55:44 PM
Anyone else sometimes have a hard times finding the fire team as Pred? Once and a while I just can't find them for 2/3rds of the match. Not sure if I'm getting turned around traveling or what. As fire team sometimes I go the whole match without seeing the Pred. Think they need to add something in so it's easier to track. It benefits both sides because who as the fire team really want to play without Pred interaction?

I did have trouble during the trial but I have been able to find them now. Just use the heat vision and move around. Also look around with the camera. Sooner or later someone will shoot and you see it.
Title: Re: Predator: Hunting Grounds Is Released Today!
Post by: Perfect-Organism on Apr 26, 2020, 01:43:11 PM
Is this strictly only for PS4?  Will there be other platforms in the future?
Title: Re: Predator: Hunting Grounds Is Released Today!
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Apr 26, 2020, 02:11:55 PM
It's also on the PC. Unlikely to go to another console, Sony funded it.
Title: Re: Predator: Hunting Grounds Is Released Today!
Post by: Kailem on Apr 26, 2020, 02:32:29 PM
Yeah the R1 leap is honestly probably better than the predkour at this point. The cloak isn't good enough to actually do its job and as soon as the fire team hears the Predator nearby the first thing they do is look to the trees, so you end up getting spotted way too easily. More and more I'm finding it a better idea to just stay on the ground, since at least then you can hide behind stuff so the bad cloak isn't so much of an issue.

I also unlocked the Berserker, the combistick and the motion sensors last night, and man is that a great combination though! Just as with the trial the combistick is unquestionably the best melee weapon, taking about 4 hits to down people as opposed to 6 or more, and with more range than any of the others too. Plus you can throw it to either down or massively injure a player, so unless and until they buff the others once you unlock that there's no reason to use anything else.

The Berserker itself is obviously great because he can survive long enough when running in to make a claim to not immediately go into second wind or even have the majority of his health taken off if you play it right. You can still get shredded if everyone is firing on you, but he at least doesn't feel as squishy as the Hunter.

He has his downsides in that he's noticeably slower than anyone else, but even his lack of energy reserves isn't a huge problem since you should be focusing mostly on melee with him anyway. Me, Hicks, Ridgetop and Voodoo got smoked by two or three Berserkers in a row last night, so now that it's getting to the point where people are starting to unlock him I'd definitely expect to see a lot more people just running in for a four-man melee spam, unfortunately.

And the motion sensors are great for keeping track of the fire team and essentially acting as a replacement for needing to go up in the trees and scan them with your thermal vision to keep track of them. Once you've found which compound they're at, throw two or three sensors out and they'll send out blue pulse bubbles that have very good range and mark any fire team member who steps into them with a big red "kill" icon, allowing you to keep track of their movements much more easily.

Combine those with bear traps and you can much more easily tell when people have been caught in them and take advantage of that.

It's sad that it feels like you have to grind halfway through the progression until you unlock the one loadout that feels viable, but now that I do have it I can't see myself often using much else until they improve either the damage of the elder sword and war axe or make the cloak better and less visible (see the Wraith from Dead by Daylight if you want a perfect example of a movie-accurate Predator cloak in a video game) so that alternative options are just as good.
Title: Re: Predator: Hunting Grounds Is Released Today!
Post by: dave1978 on Apr 27, 2020, 10:41:35 AM
I played the beta on PS4 and had some fun with it but one thing i need to know before buying is if they improved the PS4 graphics as in the beta they really were toilet.
Title: Re: Predator: Hunting Grounds Is Released Today!
Post by: Galactus123 on Apr 27, 2020, 02:11:50 PM
I have liked playing as the Predator but he feels a bit underpowered if the Fireteam stays together. I have become a bit better but I haven't won a match yet as Predator. Maybe I just need to play more. Queue time for Predator has been around 5 minutes today. It takes just 30 seconds for Fireteam. I have the PS4 version.
Title: Re: Predator: Hunting Grounds Is Released Today!
Post by: Le Celticant on Apr 27, 2020, 04:55:24 PM
Quote from: Kailem on Apr 26, 2020, 02:32:29 PM
It's sad that it feels like you have to grind halfway through the progression until you unlock the one loadout that feels viable, but now that I do have it I can't see myself often using much else until they improve either the damage of the elder sword and war axe or make the cloak better and less visible (see the Wraith from Dead by Daylight if you want a perfect example of a movie-accurate Predator cloak in a video game) so that alternative options are just as good.

The cloak works super great but you need to know the following:
-Be Close to a wall so the light warp don't over exceed (bend and produce a very visible outline)
-Don't move (it'll slowly fade the predator to the player view).

Best it to be crouched because it combine both aspect (stillness and closeness to the ground).
I had many games where I was literally in the middle of the squad and they couldn't see me for a full minute playing the objective.
If you have a berzerker and initiate the first strike and they're all grouped, it's an easy win
(Plus you may get them scared on the mic because no one saw anything coming until it happened right in the middle of them thinking they were safe).

The worse case for the cloak is:
-Moving (your cloak is at maximum opacity)
-Standing (you cover much bigger area and are more likely to be spotted).
-In the trees because what's behind you visually is probably 100 meters away awfully bending the light warp behind.

I think the problem is more related to the "spot" ability.
I can spam the spot key in a direction of a tree where the predator sound came from and eventually, just by randomly pressing, I can spot the Predator and this become an absolute nightmare for the player.
I think this mechanic should go. You shouldn't be able to have the Predator outlined in Red (and especially through wall) once spotted.
Also be careful of the skins you use. I've seen countless people use Red Mark for the Predator. They look cool but, are so easy to spot.
I have done game where the cloak ability wasn't really necessary because I could blend with the foliage around me and I am very hard to spot even when uncloaked.

I think overall the cloak looks just like the movie (with this layers of lines, beautiful! Just like in the original first two movies that no other movie ever nailed after) but what needs to be tweak is the mechanic around the spotting ability.
I'm also enclined to have the Predator remain cloaked while using melee but uncloaked while using energy based weapons, that and reduce the Berzerker health cos right now it's pure nonsense this thing can take on 4 people with a stick.
Title: Re: Predator: Hunting Grounds Is Released Today!
Post by: Kailem on Apr 27, 2020, 05:39:08 PM
You just described the inherent problem with the cloak, which is that it's so bad it makes the entire "Predkour" system a liability. You're better off just running along the ground to approach the fire team because at least that way you have buildings and structures blocking them from being able to see you. Any time you use the trees they get audio cues that you're there, either from growling/clicking that you have no control over, or from you activating your cloak/vision, and since the cloak is terrible the instant they look up when they hear those sounds they spot you right away.

I don't think the cloak looks anything like it does in the movies though. I never liked how it looked when we first saw it in the convention videos last year, and having played the game now for the last few days I'm convinced that the reason it looks like vertical interference rather than the bending, heat-type effect from the films is just to make the Predator that much easier to see for the fire team.

The Wraith's cloaking effect in Dead by Daylight is basically a spot-on perfectly accurate Predator cloak. It looks exactly like the effect in the movies and is impossible to spot if he's standing still but more of a visible distortion in the air when he's moving fast. That's what I wish we had here, something that's good enough to allow you to actually position yourself up in the trees to try and scan and stalk and lay traps, not get spotted before you can ever get anywhere close and blasted back down to the ground.
Title: Re: Predator: Hunting Grounds Is Released Today!
Post by: Galactus123 on Apr 30, 2020, 03:39:32 PM
I unlocked the Smart Disc yesterday and its fun to use. I was close winning a game as Predator but they were able to call reinforcement. I think Predator should have more time to stop it or the Fireteam members shouldn't come back all at once.
Title: Re: Predator: Hunting Grounds Is Released Today!
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Apr 30, 2020, 05:29:29 PM
In case people aren't aware, the Predators can destroy the reinforcement radios.
Title: Re: Predator: Hunting Grounds Is Released Today!
Post by: Kailem on Apr 30, 2020, 05:37:33 PM
I was totally not aware of this!

I guess that helps, though given that they're spread out all over the map and you don't now which one they're going to use you'd pretty much have to play enough to know where they all are then go around destroying them all before attacking the fire team, which would mean you'd also have to waste a lot of time you don't really have to begin with.
Title: Re: Predator: Hunting Grounds Is Released Today!
Post by: PredBabe on May 02, 2020, 11:28:56 PM
Picked up my copy today and just completed a run through of the tutorial. I am super impressed with everything about the game; the creature and map designs, all the details, and music. Awesome stuff. And, not gonna lie, it's kinda sexy watching the Predator climb through the trees.  ;D


Definitely need more practice before getting wrecked online though.  :P
Title: Re: Predator: Hunting Grounds Is Released Today!
Post by: Voodoo Magic on May 05, 2020, 02:58:23 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Apr 30, 2020, 05:29:29 PM
In case people aren't aware, the Predators can destroy the reinforcement radios.

They can destroy the ammo crates too!


Quote from: PredBabe on May 02, 2020, 11:28:56 PM
Picked up my copy today and just completed a run through of the tutorial. I am super impressed with everything about the game; the creature and map designs, all the details, and music. Awesome stuff. And, not gonna lie, it's kinda sexy watching the Predator climb through the trees.  ;D


Definitely need more practice before getting wrecked online though.  :P