AVP: Alien vs. Predator - 20 Years Later...

Started by DARIAS93, Jul 06, 2024, 07:36:04 AM

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SM

The comics have been average at best since Marvel took over.

Kimarhi

I was thinking more alongs the lines of the books, but also I'm never sure exactly when everything changed hands.  Obviously the DH to Marvel is obvious.   But the titan books and whatever the f**k the other shit was I think have been better than hat mini trash heap we got before Titan and after Bantam. 

SM

Way behind on the books. Haven't read one since Infiltrator in 2021.

Corporal Hicks

Quote from: Kimarhi on Jul 29, 2024, 01:44:44 AMI was thinking more alongs the lines of the books, but also I'm never sure exactly when everything changed hands.  Obviously the DH to Marvel is obvious.   But the titan books and whatever the f**k the other shit was I think have been better than hat mini trash heap we got before Titan and after Bantam. 

The DH Press stuff in the 2000s was largely meh to ok. The best they had was Criminal Enterprise and it was still only ok. No Exit could have been amazing but just went off the rails. Steel Egg is just trash though.

I've found Titan's stuff to be largely solid, with 3 absolutely fantastic books in there - Cold Forge, Into Charbydis and Phalanx. There's a handful of meh to ok, one absolutely trash book (Colony War, potentially AvP Rift War too. I haven't been able to get past the first 20 pages of that), but largely solid.

It took Marvel some time to find their feet. I've really enjoyed the last two runs by Declan Shalvey. PKJ's last one was reasonably okay. But the first 2 were not great.

Nightmare Asylum

Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jul 29, 2024, 11:52:40 AMCold Forge, Into Charbydis and Phalanx

These three, plus the novelization of Alien: Covenant and Alien 3: The Unproduced Screenplay, are the only Titan novels I've actually read. I'm... very picky about what EU materials I dedicate time to, for the most part.

RidgeTop

Hey everyone! Here's a banner I put together for the almost upon us 20th Anniversary of AVP. I made this using photos I took while visiting StudioADI and Icons of Darkness. Also did a little write up for our socials which you can see below:



"Whoever Wins... We Lose." Alien Vs. Predator is a special film for us. The hype surrounding this movie was immense and helped us grow from a resource for Monolith's popular PC game Aliens vs. Predator 2, to the wider franchise encompassing community we are today.

It's hard to believe it's been 20 years since we took the icebreaker Piper Maru to Bouvetøya Island. This banner was created using images we took during our visits to effects workshop studioADI and movie prop exhibition Icons of Darkness.
 
Things are quieter in the war we're in the middle of lately, but we can't help but hope that one day, we'll be seeing the titans face each other again.

aliens13

Quote from: RidgeTop on Aug 06, 2024, 06:37:18 AMHey everyone! Here's a banner I put together for the almost upon us 20th Anniversary of AVP. I made this using photos I took while visiting StudioADI and Icons of Darkness. Also did a little write up for our socials which you can see below:

https://i.imgur.com/LbRnwM6.jpeg
"Whoever Wins... We Lose." Alien Vs. Predator is a special film for us. The hype surrounding this movie was immense and helped us grow from a resource for Monolith's popular PC game Aliens vs. Predator 2, to the wider franchise encompassing community we are today.

It's hard to believe it's been 20 years since we took the icebreaker Piper Maru to Bouvetøya Island. This banner was created using images we took during our visits to effects workshop studioADI and movie prop exhibition Icons of Darkness.
 
Things are quieter in the war we're in the middle of lately, but we can't help but hope that one day, we'll be seeing the titans face each other again.
Nice words. I should give to AvP another chance, have been years since I saw it for the last time. It wasn't the film that we all wanted, but for all of us fans of both franchise's we were really excited for it back in the day and maaaaaaybe it's not that bad has I remember

The Cruentus

The Cruentus

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Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jul 19, 2024, 05:41:00 AMWe're going to be recording a retrospective podcast for Alien vs. Predator's upcoming 20th anniversary soon. We'd love to hear from everyone out there. How do you feel about the film after 20 years?


I think its a fairly ok popcorn movie. Not great but definitely not the worst. There was a lot of potential I think in avp, but execution, timeline and location let it down. Not to mention that despite the build up, it didn't bother letting us get to know the characters beyond say "verheiden = grumpy and cynical" "Miller = optimistic and excitable explorer" "Sebastion = exposition" "Charles = red herring" "Rousseau = Vasquez stand in" and the rest are cannon fodder.

It would have been better for the setting to be somewhat distant in the future and maybe on an early colony planet that happens be a cold climate and unfortunately an old game preserve planet for the predators.
The life-cycle speed was bad and the violence was pretty tame. Even the cgi blood added via the unrated edition didn't help much.
Character development was pretty much non-existence, unless you count Charle's sacrifice as him learning to care more about getting survivors out than the plasma casters.

The interesting thing is that despite prometheus and covenant before superior movies and are well made, I find it easier to watch AVP than those two because life-cycle speed aside, AVP didn't damage the lore as bad as the prequels did.

CANNON

One of the worst movies ever made - nostalgia.. ok but anyone who defends this trash as a good movie or good depiction of alien or predator does not care for the authenticity of those characters nor good practical effects, Fx design, storytelling, or directing and much else that makes a good movie. I mean that last 20 minutes or so of this movie had to be some of the most ridiculous and absolute garbage known to cinema.

Avp deserves a real movie.

Corporal Hicks

Corporal Hicks

#69
Let's tone down the TrueFanTM response there, please. Folk are entitled to enjoy or defend what they want. We're all fans here. :)

Cosmic Incubation

It's definitely mostly due to nostalgia, but I've always had a big soft spot and a lot of love for the first AVP. And I'm glad to see AVPG showing it some love.

I'll always have precious lifelong childhood memories around this films release. I had already been a huge fan of both franchises at a young age (maybe too young lol), and I was about 9 when it came out, so when my dad told me they were going to actually be making a movie of Alien and Predator in the same film together, it blew my mind.

It was all I could talk or think about between hearing the news and and the movie hitting theatres.
I remember spending a lot of free time drawing Aliens and Predators fighting eachother in my sketchbooks and scouring the internet for art and fan discussion (including here a few times I'm sure). It introduced me to the fandom and expanded media as a whole. I talked about it so much that I remember my dad bluntly, but politely, having to ask if we could not talk about it for an afternoon lol. I even vividly remember the excitement I had on the car ride to the theater with my dad.

To this day I don't think there's ever been a movie before or since that's matched the amount of excitement I had for AVP, and that's something I'll always cherish. As an adult I see it more now for what it is, flaws and all, but 9 year old me was just ecstatic to see my two favorite movie creatures on the same screen together. And I still tap into that enjoyment watching it today, and can throw it on for a rewatch fairly often.

Corporal Hicks

Quote from: Cosmic Incubation on Aug 07, 2024, 09:29:35 PMIt's definitely mostly due to nostalgia, but I've always had a big soft spot and a lot of love for the first AVP. And I'm glad to see AVPG showing it some love.

I'm the same. If only because it was the first film I got to experience the marketing ramp up for. But I also flip between if I enjoy it or am disappointed by it when it actually comes to watching it.

BlueMarsalis79


Cosmic Incubation

Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Aug 07, 2024, 09:33:51 PM
Quote from: Cosmic Incubation on Aug 07, 2024, 09:29:35 PMIt's definitely mostly due to nostalgia, but I've always had a big soft spot and a lot of love for the first AVP. And I'm glad to see AVPG showing it some love.

I'm the same. If only because it was the first film I got to experience the marketing ramp up for. But I also flip between if I enjoy it or am disappointed by it when it actually comes to watching it.

I feel that for sure. There's definitely things that I legitimately still enjoy about it, but the more I've watched it over the years the more I've understood the disappointment that it's not the best possible AVP film that we deserve and should have got. Can't deny that it set the franchise back a bit too.

Conflicting for sure, but I still love it.

Hopefully we get a truly great AVP film someday.

SM


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