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I’m A Stranger Here Myself, What We’d Like To See For The Future of Alien & Predator – AvP Galaxy Podcast #117

We have just uploaded the 117th episode of the Alien vs. Predator Galaxy Podcast (right-click and save as to download)! Regular hosts Corporal Hicks, RidgeTop, Voodoo Magic and Xenomorphine reconvene to discuss their desires for where they’d like to see Alien and Predator go in the future!

 I'm A Stranger Here Myself, What We'd Like To See For The Future of Alien & Predator – AvP Galaxy Podcast #117

Artwork by Darek Zabrocki, originally for the Aliens vs. Predator: The Hunt Begins.

We cover all sorts of possibilities in this episode including branding, the dreaded reboot, expanding the universe to include stories that don’t necessarily feature the Alien or Predator but still set within the universe, turning to streaming or TV, affordable merchandise and plenty more!

Unfortunately there was a little confusion over the topic of the podcast and AJ thought we were talking specifically about Alien vs. Predator when my intent had been to talk about Alien and Predator as a whole.

At one point we start discussing the rumored Alien vs. Predator anime and there’s a little confusion over what we actually knew about it. According to Perfect Organism who broke the news, it was a completed series that was produced and then shelved.

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  1. XenoHunter99
    Quote from: Kradan on Oct 25, 2020, 06:47:49 PM
    Quote from: XenoHunter99 on Oct 25, 2020, 06:43:30 PM
    Or perhaps integrated in Star Wars universe, where the Alien becomes a Sith machination and the Predators are a race of bounty hunters from the Galactic Rim...

    It all makes sense now !

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    Spoiler

    If I'd have to choose, I'd rather choose to sacrifice Alien to Star Wars than to Marvel

    Thanks for that! :) I know a lot of people might roll their eyes or bristle at the thought, but properly handled... The results could be a lot of fun!
  2. Immortan Jonesy
    Quote from: AVP-CAPCOM on Oct 25, 2020, 03:56:35 PM
    All things cinematic projects of ALIENS is wishful thinking at this point, especially as Disney has made no announcements.

    Perhaps. But you really want to hear them announcing something? I mean, they can come and say:

    "Dear fans (Marvel fans)...

    It is a pleasure for us to announce that two new purchases join our beloved superhero family. Their universe does not interest us, so we prefer to take these two monsters to play with them in our favorite sandbox. You know, the one that it's actually profitable according to our most optimistics standards as a megacorporation".


    Now you can expect superheroes flicks that often featured Aliens and Predators.  :-X
  3. AVP-CAPCOM
    With Hollywood imploding right now, AAA movies forced into a direct-to-home box office experiment gone wrong with millions (billions?) in revenue lost in the process. Even Sony/MGM with No Time To Die (ironic name) was toying with the idea of home streaming- but wanted of $660 million upfront as collateral rather than risk the royalties model.Then CineWorld going bust in the UK as part of the same Bond delay debacle. All things cinematic ALIENS getting greelit anytime soon, is wishful thinking at this point. Especially as Disney has made no announcements and is also recoiling from the failure of tentpole Mulan (2020).

    True we might look back in 10 years from now and we've written off the Xenomorph too many times before only for it to bounce back with egg on,some of, our faces.

    Like the videogame crash of the early 1980s look at where we're at now, it's been booming the past 30 years! Hopefully cinema and ALIENS will return.
    Don't count on netflix though, I heard even they are experience turbulent times with controversies and reports of subscription cancellations.
    Some people were blaming "that french underage movie" but given the timing and covid sounds like an excuse with a get out clause to save cash on a 12 month lock in contract, while being furloughed.
  4. Xiggz456
    Quote from: Wysps on Oct 23, 2020, 02:42:05 AM
    Quote from: Xiggz456 on Oct 22, 2020, 09:57:22 PM
    Fun listen fellas! Looking to 2021 we already know we have 2 new Alien novels coming from Titan and hopefully that trend continues as I've really enjoyed consistently reading new A/P novels. Comics wise I'm confident that Marvel will give us at least one Aliens and one Predator series and potentially a crossover per year. Games: the new MMO hopefully releases next year and hopefully Hunting Grounds gets a single player mode but other than that I'm unsure if we'll see anything new on the game side of things for some time after that. I really hope the AVP anime gets green lit in the near future. Other than that I hope to see Alien or Predator get an 8-10 episode live action series in the near future. Regardless next year already looks promising so let's hope that bodes well for the future under Disney.

    Same here. A series is really what I'd like to see in the future, for both franchises. For Predators, something maybe along the same line as "Predators", with perhaps a condensed Lost-like spin, with the objective being (like the movie) to return home. I think that could have potential.

    I haven't listened to the podcast yet, but I do sense that Alien in particular has a bright future in the coming year  :)

    That would indeed be a cool concept for a Predator series! I've said it before but something like "Band of Brothers" meets Predator would be something I'd like to see!
  5. Wysps
    Quote from: Xiggz456 on Oct 22, 2020, 09:57:22 PM
    Fun listen fellas! Looking to 2021 we already know we have 2 new Alien novels coming from Titan and hopefully that trend continues as I've really enjoyed consistently reading new A/P novels. Comics wise I'm confident that Marvel will give us at least one Aliens and one Predator series and potentially a crossover per year. Games: the new MMO hopefully releases next year and hopefully Hunting Grounds gets a single player mode but other than that I'm unsure if we'll see anything new on the game side of things for some time after that. I really hope the AVP anime gets green lit in the near future. Other than that I hope to see Alien or Predator get an 8-10 episode live action series in the near future. Regardless next year already looks promising so let's hope that bodes well for the future under Disney.

    Same here. A series is really what I'd like to see in the future, for both franchises. For Predators, something maybe along the same line as "Predators", with perhaps a condensed Lost-like spin, with the objective being (like the movie) to return home. I think that could have potential.

    I haven't listened to the podcast yet, but I do sense that Alien in particular has a bright future in the coming year  :)
  6. Xiggz456
    Fun listen fellas! Looking to 2021 we already know we have 2 new Alien novels coming from Titan and hopefully that trend continues as I've really enjoyed consistently reading new A/P novels. Comics wise I'm confident that Marvel will give us at least one Aliens and one Predator series and potentially a crossover per year. Games: the new MMO hopefully releases next year and hopefully Hunting Grounds gets a single player mode but other than that I'm unsure if we'll see anything new on the game side of things for some time after that. I really hope the AVP anime gets green lit in the near future. Other than that I hope to see Alien or Predator get an 8-10 episode live action series in the near future. Regardless next year already looks promising so let's hope that bodes well for the future under Disney.
  7. SuperiorIronman
    Y'know as much as I'd like a Predator show kind of like The Mandolorian, part of me would be interested in a take on Predator in the style of The Clone Wars. Or even an animated adaptation of the first AVP like it.

  8. Kailem
    Man, I'd almost forgotten how much I love that AVP: The Hunt Begins artwork. Such a good image.

    That was a good listen! Thanks to the prevalence of AVP content growing up I've always liked to imagine that the Alien and Predator universes were one and the same, so I'd definitely love it if they just finally made it totally officially official (as opposed to just partially official, of course). I don't ever want the "AVP" branding to go away, but I'd be totally down for one big all-encompassing Alien/Predator Universe.

    That's one of the reasons I love the Alien RPG so much is that it basically takes everything and presents it as a real universe of Alien content. I'm just hoping that Free League eventually relents to all the constant requests for a Predator sourcebook and eventually makes one so that it can truly be complete! ;D

    But yeah I definitely wouldn't want them to throw everything out and start from scratch to get there, if only because let's face it, they're never going to top the absolute best movies of either series no matter how good any potential reboot might be. I agree that they could do some unconnected stories off in some far-flung corner of the universe just fine without necessarily having to be burdened by the continuity of the existing films if they really wanted, and I'd be all for an approach like that.

    I definitely want another AVP film at some point though, likewise unconnected to the existing too. And another game, for sure. No more prequels though. :P
  9. Gemini
    Great podcast, really nice to chill and listen to a bunch of other fans geek out.
    There was so many different ways mooted of how the franchise could continue, a lot of which would be fine with me.

    I think the reality is that we won't see anything theatrical or TV wise for a good while- the comics/novels and perhaps video games will tick along and keep it going until then.

    Despite Ridley saying it's in progress, I'm not so sure his final prequel will get made. And I'm one of the people who generally rates the prequels, for all their flaws. Perhaps David's story will be finished in another medium.

    They should definitely reconsider how the alien universe can be portrayed on a smaller budget. Claustrophobic, but still hinting at a wider universe without showing it.
    Even Aliens was actually a relatively small budget wasn't it, when putting it in context of the time? The final explosion was a light bulb under some cotton wool.

    I'd totally be down with a TV series set in another corner of the universe. Concentrate on the struggles of a group of colonists and only hint at the aliens, build it up. Similar to how the RPG campaign approaches. Or a Predator series with each season set in a totally different time period.

    Also totally down with seeing some other creatures, the black goo can facilitate that as long as it doesn't become too much of an easy plot device.
    Other people mentioned the neomorph but I also think the Trilobite creature was cool as hell.
  10. Perfect-Organism
    Thanks for another great podcast guys.  I get the feeling that there is a lot of planning happening in the background over at Disney for the Aliens franchise, and one can only hope that when they do launch it will be something epic.  Ideally, if they can explore different facets of the universe, that would be terrific.
  11. Voodoo Magic
    Quote from: Lost_Hunter on Oct 15, 2020, 08:27:44 PM
    I think with the right writing and direction theVoodoo Verse could work. The APU. If Fire and stone were written by the Nolan brothers or someone whose a big fan and takes it seriously.

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    Quote from: Lost_Hunter on Oct 15, 2020, 08:27:44 PM
    theVoodoo Verse

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    Quote from: Kradan on Oct 15, 2020, 08:37:41 PM
    Quote from: Lost_Hunter on Oct 15, 2020, 08:27:44 PM
    theVoodoo Verse

    :D

    Seriously though, I'm anxious they'd not only create a shared universe of Alien and Predator but would try to replicate the feel of Marvel movies. You know, with ridicilously high stakes, witty characters, dramatic moments cut with jokes, piles of CGI etc. The Predator tried to do that and (no matter how I feel about the movie) pretty much failed at it. Marvel tone just doesn't fit both franchises

    I was thinking more of a horror universe. Blumhouse to a degree, or Stephen King's favorite vacation spot, Castle Rock.  Loose connections. Plenty of terror. No quips.  ;)
  12. Kradan
    Quote from: Lost_Hunter on Oct 15, 2020, 08:27:44 PM
    theVoodoo Verse

    :D

    Seriously though, I'm anxious they'd not only create a shared universe of Alien and Predator but would try to replicate the feel of Marvel movies. You know, with ridicilously high stakes, witty characters, dramatic moments cut with jokes, piles of CGI etc. The Predator tried to do that and (no matter how I feel about the movie) pretty much failed at it. Marvel tone just doesn't fit both franchises

    And as other hosts pointed out you don't really need shared universe and "clean slate" for great Alien and Predator stories to be told. Alien stories can be separated from each other by light years. Predator stories - centuries
  13. Kradan
    Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Oct 15, 2020, 11:43:22 AM
    Quote from: Kradan on Oct 15, 2020, 10:25:42 AM
    Idk, Voodoo's proposal sounds to me mostly like trying to do Alien and Predator version of MCU

    Wait. So the Xenomorphs, the Predators, and all the new beings created in the Alien Predator Universe resolving their differences and coming together to fight off a Super Powered Engineer who wants to destroy half the universe for the common good sounds bad to you?

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  14. Enjoy
    I want paul ws anderson to make a romantic adventure avp movie with lots of eye contact between predator and human female.. No blood or gore and lots of cheeseyness.
  15. Nightmare Asylum
    On the note of projects in the "Universe" not directly featuring the Alien, I was very into Prometheus conceptually (despite the execution being very, very sloppy) and would have been open to its sequel moving its trajectory even farther away from Alien (though I wound up loving Alien: Covenant, so I'm more than ok with the shift back that things took there), so I would definitely be open to another film without the capital-A Alien, if it felt appropriate to do so.
  16. Bug hunt wilson
    How hard it is to know that r rated properties shoundt be pg 13 has the Robocop reboot haven't shown you and no i don't pg 13 alien and predator
  17. Nukiemorph
    I wish I could share the optimism on R ratings, but it doesn't sound like anything is happening with Deadpool at the moment. I hope you guys are right.

    And as Xenomorphine said in the episode, David's conclusion could be quickly shat out in a flashback. I'd gladly take that.
  18. Corporal Hicks
    I just can't see it going PG-13. Fox already made that mistake, and Disney are aware of the importance of keeping rating if its important to brand identity like Deadpool.

    I'm glad everyone enjoyed the episode so far. Thank you.
  19. Nukiemorph
    Fans want marines shooting bugs. That can easily be PG-13. I'm positive some suit in a Disney boardroom will make that point.

    I'd picture Disney trying PG-13 long before I'd ever imagine Fox doing it... and Fox already did it in 2004.
  20. Billiken
    Quote from: David's Creation on Oct 14, 2020, 03:38:53 AM
    WHAT I WANT:
    Closure on David's story in literally any official medium.
    Aside from that, I'm pretty much open to anything but a remake.

    WHAT I EXPECT:
    Worst case scenario:

    Cheap Marvel comic cash grabs. Nothing more.
    Best case scenario:
    Disney's market research concludes that fans want Ripley, Newt, Hicks, and marines.
    So they bring Sigourney back for a PG-13, action-focused film that probably features a surprise predator appearance, actively retconning 3 & 4 and ignoring the prequels altogether.
    (I don't want this, but I'd consider it best case scenario because it would show the most financial investment in the IP.)

    Agreed. I want to see where the prequels go. I don't want to see Ripley at all. Create something new.
  21. Ed209
    For Alien a sequel to Covenant makes sense to wrap up the story and bookend it back to the first movie.

    Some kind of sequel to The Predator where the robot suit was used and Dutch returned could actually be fun.

    I think AVP should be left alone but if something had to be made a straight adaptation of the original comic series would be best. I believe a script was written in the 90s.
  22. seattle24
    Quote from: Lost_Hunter on Oct 14, 2020, 04:30:37 PM
    Great podcast guys! I enjoyed the ideas but most of all, the passion was there. Totally agree with seattle24. I fear the damage ADI has done is irreversible. Their work keeps showing up on book covers and the overall look of our beloved extraterrestrials has suffered because of it.
    Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Oct 14, 2020, 06:59:22 PM
    Quote from: seattle24 on Oct 14, 2020, 01:33:19 PM
    On the subject of what was seemingly most of the guys saying they do not want Scott to return with his current prequel trajectory - the same must be said for ADI in my opinion. They should be toast in these franchises. Maybe Voodoo would back me up on this after their work on The Predator?

    100% BACKED!

    https://i.imgur.com/boyRiZp.gif?noredirect

    Pair of legends!
  23. Nightmare Asylum
    Listening to this now and enjoying!

    To add my own thoughts to the conversation, speaking strictly about the Alien series, I want to see Ridley Scott make his sequel to Alien: Covenant that concludes the prequel narrative, followed by individual films done by totally different creative teams with different tones/style/content. And me personally, I would like to see Alien and Predator stay totally separate.

    Also, ADI did some really fantastic work on Alien 3 and Alien: Resurrection, in my opinion. They really delivered on what they were asked to make in those two. Alien vs Predator cheaped out and reused the Alien: Resurrection suits, which made absolutely no sense given that that particular design only works within the very specific context of Resurrection and was ultimately one of a great many things that didn't work in AVP.
  24. Lost_Hunter
    Great podcast guys! I enjoyed the ideas but most of all, the passion was there. Totally agree with seattle24. I fear the damage ADI has done is irreversible. Their work keeps showing up on book covers and the overall look of our beloved extraterrestrials has suffered because of it.

    Moving forward I would love to see these creatures animated, it's been a dream of mine for some time. An Animatrix esque anthology film would be awesome.

    Can't imagine we'll be seing these creatures on screen for a while tho given the state of the world. That being said a Star Wars/ Trek like universe full of new worlds and creatures would work best. With more of a focus on horror and human brutality.

    Also, a break away from first person gaming would be a great addition to both franchises.

    Keep up the good work everyone!
  25. seattle24
    As someone that is a fan of the films first and foremost, I really enjoyed listening to this discussion and everyone's different takes!

    I really align myself with the route Disney should take is a TV series (for Alien). I think you could adapt the events before Aliens really well into that format, as well as Alien Isolation.

    Would absolutely love to see Blumhouse acquire Alien, too, as a wish list alternative.

    On the subject of what was seemingly most of the guys saying they do not want Scott to return with his current prequel trajectory - the same must be said for ADI in my opinion. They should be toast in these franchises. Maybe Voodoo would back me up on this after their work on The Predator?

    I really liked Odd studio's work on Covenant. Even if a lot of it remained behind the scenes. Just my two cents.
  26. maddaddam
    Great discussion. If Disney want to reignite the Alien films, they need to hire Denis Villeneuve to take the helm (still would love Ridley to finish his David trilogy first). He's the only director I can think of who can do serious sci-fi on a big budget. Arrival/Blade Runner/Dune/Alien - it makes sense. I disagree with Blumhouse getting involved, don't think they would be a good match at all, although they do make money.
  27. Nukiemorph
    WHAT I WANT:
    Closure on David's story in literally any official medium.
    Aside from that, I'm pretty much open to anything but a remake.

    WHAT I EXPECT:
    Worst case scenario:

    Cheap Marvel comic cash grabs. Nothing more.
    Best case scenario:
    Disney's market research concludes that fans want Ripley, Newt, Hicks, and marines.
    So they bring Sigourney back for a PG-13, action-focused film that probably features a surprise predator appearance, actively retconning 3 & 4 and ignoring the prequels altogether.
    (I don't want this, but I'd consider it best case scenario because it would show the most financial investment in the IP.)
  28. Kradan
    Huh. Haven't seen this one coming. But I'm glad - It reminds me of older episodes ( episodes 9, 12, 14, 32, 35 come to mind) when there wasn't as much new shit every month to talk about and Hicks and Co. had to come up with things to talk about rather than covering all the recent announcements and releases. Not that I against it but it's a nice change of things for the moment IMO


    Quote from: XenoHunter99 on Oct 13, 2020, 07:59:10 PM
    Hicks, that's quite a collection of stuff you've got!  8)

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  29. XenoHunter99
    That was fun. Well done all! Voodoo, glad you got all that off your chest.  ;D Xenomorphine, yes to Hellraiser 4 framing. That was a good movie, too. Bonus points for mentioning that. Ridgetop, I agree about keeping the AVP name. Hicks, that's quite a collection of stuff you've got!  8)
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