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Meet the Characters in Alien: Earth, Along with Lots of New Production Stills

A lengthy article, filled with numerous story spoilers and character insights regarding FX’s Alien: Earth has been published over on Vanity Fair. It’s well worth a read and contains twelve new production stills.

Vanity Fair have spoken to showrunner Noah Hawley and the article is particularly focused on the characters that we see in Alien: Earth. Their relationships with each other, what their motives are, and how they fit into Alien: Earth.

For instance, the Hybrids, as they are called, are artificially made bodies that contain a consciousness uploaded from a human being. These are the “brainchild” of Boy Kavalier (Samuel Blenkin), who is the leader of Prodigy Corporation, who rivals Weyland-Yutani. The first Hybrids were taken from children who volunteered to be test subjects due to them having a terminal illness.

Dame Sylvia (Essie Davis) looks after the so-called Lost Boys and Timothy Olyphant plays Kirsh, who is an android and wants the Hybrids to become something more than human. Atom Eins (played by Adrian Edmondson) is the “fixer and first lieutenant” for Boy Kavalier, while the technician Arthur Sylvia (David Rysdahl) is the husband of Dame who is sceptical of the Hybrid program.

David Rysdahl plays Arthur Sylvi – the researcher who is not sure if the Hybrids are being used for good. Weyland-Yutani features in the series and Yutani is played by Sandra Yi Sencindiver. A long time ago, Yutani’s grandmother sent the Maginot on a hunting and gathering mission in space. Yutani thinks the creatures they’ve harvested are a family heirloom. Prodigy also wants the creatures.

Morrow is a cyborg security officer, played by Babou Ceesay on the Maginot, and he spent 65 years trying to retrieve the creatures. He has to come to terms with the fact that everybody he knew on Earth is long dead. After the Maginot crashes on Earth, Prodigy sends a tactical team in to investigate which includes a medical officer named Hermit (Alex Lawther). He is the brother of the little girl Wendy once was. He doesn’t know that Wendy is his sister.

As I said, the article on Vanity Fair is well worth a read to learn more about the characters in Alien: Earth. In addition to the production stills, there’s a new promo artwork piece of the Xenomorph we haven’t seen before.

 Meet the Characters in Alien: Earth, Along with Lots of New Production Stills

Alien: Earth will premiere Tuesday, August 12th, with the first two episodes releasing on FX at 8 p.m. ET/PT, and on Hulu at 8 p.m. ET. Alien: Earth with premiere its first two episodes in the UK on Disney+ the day after, on August 13th, with a new episode out each Wednesday.

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  1. Seegson
    The aesthetic of Alien (1979) is a realistic vision of the future (at least as realistic as it could be in the late 1970s) but with a dirty, industrial touch.

    The famous space truckers. Cameron added an aseptic, military touch, but broadly speaking, it was a continuous aesthetic, something that gave cohesion and a hallmark to the franchise. You recognize those corridors and that technology immediately. Not incorporating it in the prequels was a mistake.

    It's something that distances the franchise from the generic aesthetic that floods current science fiction films, which is completely forgettable.
  2. SM
    Quote from: Seegson on Jul 07, 2025, 09:08:56 AM
    Quote from: SM on Jul 07, 2025, 05:37:02 AMFans have been saying Nostromo's a tug and Prometheus is a luxury flagship since the film came out.

    Argument tends to get a bit fragile though when 'state of the badass art' military equipment only tracks in 2 dimensions when three REALLY would have been handy.

    Is not just the military stuff. In the year 2179 the Gateway station on Earth looks dated compared to Prometheus or Covenant technology (almost 100 years later) ,and is not a lonely gas station for dirty space trucks.

    A lonely what now?


    Quote from: [cancerblack] on Jul 07, 2025, 10:30:17 AM
    Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Jul 07, 2025, 10:26:46 AM
    Quote from: SM on Jul 07, 2025, 05:37:02 AMFans have been saying Nostromo's a tug and Prometheus is a luxury flagship since the film came out.

    Argument tends to get a bit fragile though when 'state of the badass art' military equipment only tracks in 2 dimensions when three REALLY would have been handy.

    Hawley has also described the Maginot, a ship that is very Nostromo in flavor and design, as a top-of-the-line science vessel.

    There are all kinds of head canons to make sense of this stuff, but... for me it's easiest to just roll with "this is the aesthetic that the filmmaker is going for and that's why this ship looks the way it does" with each installment. It's worked out well enough for me so far!

    Quote from: Agoddamnpercentage on Jul 07, 2025, 10:16:39 AMOn the discontinuity of having a WY ship out there pre-Prometheus, I guess you could just imagine that Weyland Corp had been retained after the merger as a sub-brand for certain activities/areas of business.

    With the founder of the original standalone corporation in tow, calling the shots on a secret multi-trillion dollar passion project that isn't really intended to benefit anyone other than himself?

    I think it's much easier to just accept that Hawley didn't care one way or the other about the prequels and, in doing so, (accidentally) established an element in his story that just does not gel with them.

    I love the prequels (Covenant specifically, but Prometheus is also very interesting despite its problems), but I'm fine with this being the case. I'm willing to meet Earth on its own terms.

    Honestly, it's just easier to think of Alien as the anchor point and one solid "fact" of the whole thing, and everything else as tangents extrapolating from there in various ways that may not all work at the same time but can be fun all the same.

    Or not even an anchor point (essay...) - just a spin off. Like MASH film and TV series.
  3. Agoddamnpercentage
    I think the shot with the tiled, bloody walls a few pages back shows that someone somewhere on this project definitely has some love for Alien 3, so I wouldn't be surprised to find references to its plot points in the script too.

    Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Jul 07, 2025, 10:26:46 AM
    Quote from: Agoddamnpercentage on Jul 07, 2025, 10:16:39 AMOn the discontinuity of having a WY ship out there pre-Prometheus, I guess you could just imagine that Weyland Corp had been retained after the merger as a sub-brand for certain activities/areas of business.

    With the founder of the original standalone corporation in tow, calling the shots on a secret multi-trillion dollar passion project that isn't really intended to benefit anyone other than himself?

    I think it's much easier to just accept that Hawley didn't care one way or the other about the prequels and, in doing so, (accidentally) established an element in his story that just does not gel with them.

    I don't disagree that he likely doesn't care. What he could say and what he cares to say are different. I think he *could* say what I suggested. It doesn't seem too hard to imagine Weyland negotiating to retain a corner of the company for his passion projects.
  4. [cancerblack]
    Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Jul 07, 2025, 10:33:04 AM
    Quote from: [cancerblack] on Jul 07, 2025, 10:30:17 AM
    Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Jul 07, 2025, 10:26:46 AM
    Quote from: SM on Jul 07, 2025, 05:37:02 AMFans have been saying Nostromo's a tug and Prometheus is a luxury flagship since the film came out.

    Argument tends to get a bit fragile though when 'state of the badass art' military equipment only tracks in 2 dimensions when three REALLY would have been handy.

    Hawley has also described the Maginot, a ship that is very Nostromo in flavor and design, as a top-of-the-line science vessel.

    There are all kinds of head canons to make sense of this stuff, but... for me it's easiest to just roll with "this is the aesthetic that the filmmaker is going for and that's why this ship looks the way it does" with each installment. It's worked out well enough for me so far!

    Quote from: Agoddamnpercentage on Jul 07, 2025, 10:16:39 AMOn the discontinuity of having a WY ship out there pre-Prometheus, I guess you could just imagine that Weyland Corp had been retained after the merger as a sub-brand for certain activities/areas of business.

    With the founder of the original standalone corporation in tow, calling the shots on a secret multi-trillion dollar passion project that isn't really intended to benefit anyone other than himself?

    I think it's much easier to just accept that Hawley didn't care one way or the other about the prequels and, in doing so, (accidentally) established an element in his story that just does not gel with them.

    I love the prequels (Covenant specifically, but Prometheus is also very interesting despite its problems), but I'm fine with this being the case. I'm willing to meet Earth on its own terms.

    Honestly, it's just easier to think of Alien as the anchor point and one solid "fact" of the whole thing, and everything else as tangents extrapolating from there in various ways that may not all work at the same time but can be fun all the same.

    Hear, hear. Maybe throw Aliens in there too alongside Alien, since Hawley seems to be treating that one equally as gospel based on his comments.

    But all of this is more or less the way most Godzilla continuities treat the original 1954 film... and that is totally ok with me!

    I'd include Aliens and Alien 3 as near-constants, but still just the primary tangent from the original anchor point. Coz I'm not just talking in relation to Alien: Earth but in regards to all the various films, comics and plastic tat.
  5. Nightmare Asylum
    Quote from: [cancerblack] on Jul 07, 2025, 10:30:17 AM
    Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Jul 07, 2025, 10:26:46 AM
    Quote from: SM on Jul 07, 2025, 05:37:02 AMFans have been saying Nostromo's a tug and Prometheus is a luxury flagship since the film came out.

    Argument tends to get a bit fragile though when 'state of the badass art' military equipment only tracks in 2 dimensions when three REALLY would have been handy.

    Hawley has also described the Maginot, a ship that is very Nostromo in flavor and design, as a top-of-the-line science vessel.

    There are all kinds of head canons to make sense of this stuff, but... for me it's easiest to just roll with "this is the aesthetic that the filmmaker is going for and that's why this ship looks the way it does" with each installment. It's worked out well enough for me so far!

    Quote from: Agoddamnpercentage on Jul 07, 2025, 10:16:39 AMOn the discontinuity of having a WY ship out there pre-Prometheus, I guess you could just imagine that Weyland Corp had been retained after the merger as a sub-brand for certain activities/areas of business.

    With the founder of the original standalone corporation in tow, calling the shots on a secret multi-trillion dollar passion project that isn't really intended to benefit anyone other than himself?

    I think it's much easier to just accept that Hawley didn't care one way or the other about the prequels and, in doing so, (accidentally) established an element in his story that just does not gel with them.

    I love the prequels (Covenant specifically, but Prometheus is also very interesting despite its problems), but I'm fine with this being the case. I'm willing to meet Earth on its own terms.

    Honestly, it's just easier to think of Alien as the anchor point and one solid "fact" of the whole thing, and everything else as tangents extrapolating from there in various ways that may not all work at the same time but can be fun all the same.

    Hear, hear. Maybe throw Aliens in there too alongside Alien, since Hawley seems to be treating that one equally as gospel based on his comments.

    But all of this is more or less the way most Godzilla continuities treat the original 1954 film... and that is totally ok with me!
  6. [cancerblack]
    Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Jul 07, 2025, 10:26:46 AM
    Quote from: SM on Jul 07, 2025, 05:37:02 AMFans have been saying Nostromo's a tug and Prometheus is a luxury flagship since the film came out.

    Argument tends to get a bit fragile though when 'state of the badass art' military equipment only tracks in 2 dimensions when three REALLY would have been handy.

    Hawley has also described the Maginot, a ship that is very Nostromo in flavor and design, as a top-of-the-line science vessel.

    There are all kinds of head canons to make sense of this stuff, but... for me it's easiest to just roll with "this is the aesthetic that the filmmaker is going for and that's why this ship looks the way it does" with each installment. It's worked out well enough for me so far!

    Quote from: Agoddamnpercentage on Jul 07, 2025, 10:16:39 AMOn the discontinuity of having a WY ship out there pre-Prometheus, I guess you could just imagine that Weyland Corp had been retained after the merger as a sub-brand for certain activities/areas of business.

    With the founder of the original standalone corporation in tow, calling the shots on a secret multi-trillion dollar passion project that isn't really intended to benefit anyone other than himself?

    I think it's much easier to just accept that Hawley didn't care one way or the other about the prequels and, in doing so, (accidentally) established an element in his story that just does not gel with them.

    I love the prequels (Covenant specifically, but Prometheus is also very interesting despite its problems), but I'm fine with this being the case. I'm willing to meet Earth on its own terms.

    Honestly, it's just easier to think of Alien as the anchor point and one solid "fact" of the whole thing, and everything else as tangents extrapolating from there in various ways that may not all work at the same time but can be fun all the same.
  7. Nightmare Asylum
    Quote from: SM on Jul 07, 2025, 05:37:02 AMFans have been saying Nostromo's a tug and Prometheus is a luxury flagship since the film came out.

    Argument tends to get a bit fragile though when 'state of the badass art' military equipment only tracks in 2 dimensions when three REALLY would have been handy.

    Hawley has also described the Maginot, a ship that is very Nostromo in flavor and design, as a top-of-the-line science vessel.

    There are all kinds of head canons to make sense of this stuff, but... for me it's easiest to just roll with "this is the aesthetic that the filmmaker is going for and that's why this ship looks the way it does" with each installment. It's worked out well enough for me so far!

    Quote from: Agoddamnpercentage on Jul 07, 2025, 10:16:39 AMOn the discontinuity of having a WY ship out there pre-Prometheus, I guess you could just imagine that Weyland Corp had been retained after the merger as a sub-brand for certain activities/areas of business.

    With the founder of the original standalone corporation in tow, calling the shots on a secret multi-trillion dollar passion project that isn't really intended to benefit anyone other than himself?

    I think it's much easier to just accept that Hawley didn't care one way or the other about the prequels and, in doing so, (accidentally) established an element in his story that just does not gel with them.

    I love the prequels (Covenant specifically, but Prometheus is also very interesting despite its problems), but I'm fine with this being the case. I'm willing to meet Earth on its own terms.
  8. Seegson
    Quote from: SM on Jul 07, 2025, 05:37:02 AMFans have been saying Nostromo's a tug and Prometheus is a luxury flagship since the film came out.

    Argument tends to get a bit fragile though when 'state of the badass art' military equipment only tracks in 2 dimensions when three REALLY would have been handy.

    Is not just the military stuff. In the year 2179 the Gateway station on Earth looks dated compared to Prometheus or Covenant technology (almost 100 years later) ,and is not a lonely gas station for dirty space trucks.
  9. Mornstar
    @Nightmare Asylum Was it difficult to change the logo on a spaceship that had been on a 65 year long mission and whose parts must have been refurbished countless times? Some of the old items on the ship may still bear the logo of Yutani Corporation.
    According to the Weyland Industries website and the W-Y Report, before the Prometheus sailed from Earth on August 2, 2091, Weyland Corporation had 63 off-world colonies. As a competitor, Yutani Corporation must have had many off-world colonies as well. Changing markings, updating parts and picking up supplies must have been done at the colonies.
  10. SM
    Fans have been saying Nostromo's a tug and Prometheus is a luxury flagship since the film came out.

    Argument tends to get a bit fragile though when 'state of the badass art' military equipment only tracks in 2 dimensions when three REALLY would have been handy.
  11. Mornstar
    Noah Hawley just said he didn't like the prequels' holograms and the idea that xenomorphs are a species that's been around for millions of years. Noah didn't say anything about ignoring the prequels. According to the Weyland Industries website, HOLOGRAPHIC ENVIRONMENT SIMULATOR are geared towards the luxury market, meaning that holographic simulators simply aren't cheap products that everyone can afford. So it's normal that Alien: Earth doesn't have holograms.

    "Ridley and I have talked about this — and many, many elements of the show," Hawley says. "For me, and for a lot of people, this 'perfect life form' — as it was described in the first film — is the product of millions of years of evolution that created this creature that may have existed for a million years out there in space. The idea that, on some level, it was a bioweapon created half an hour ago, that's just inherently less useful to me. And in terms of the mythology, what's scary about this monster, is that when you look at those first two movies, you have this retro-futuristic technology. You have giant computer monitors, these weird keyboards ... You have to make a choice. Am I doing that? Because in the prequels, Ridley made the technology thousands of years more advanced than the technology of Alien, which is supposed to take place in those movies' future. There's something about that that doesn't really compute for me. I prefer the retro-futurism of the first two films. And so that's the choice I've made — there's no holograms. The convenience of that beautiful Apple store technology is not available to me."
    https://www.avpgalaxy.net/2024/01/14/noah-hawley-speaks-to-prequel-films-being-inherently-less-useful-to-the-story-of-the-fx-alien-series/

    SEPTEMBER 6TH, 2024 – HOLOGRAPHIC ENVIRONMENT SIMULATOR
    Weyland Industries makes first foray into the luxury goods market with its holographic Environment Simulator. It is the first HES able to accurately recreate the aesthetic mood and sounds of any place in the known world, as well as provide live video feed from any calibrated receiver.
    https://alienseries.wordpress.com/2012/10/19/weyland-industries-timeline/

    And Fede Alvarez has long said that many people make the mistake of seeing the Nostromo and assuming that the ship's technology is everything the human civilization of Alien Universe has. The Nostromo is really the equivalent of a trucker's cargo truck, while the Prometheus is the luxury vehicle of the richest boss. Fede also says that technology changes over decades, but that depends mostly on location, not time. Jackson's Star is actually a small town dotted with blue-collar people with a population of just over two thousand. Advances in technology do not mean a better quality of life for everyone, but instead may exacerbate the class gap. Alien franchise itself has always explored class contradiction.

    How tough was it to find a balance between the little green computer monitors of "Alien" and the futuristic technology of the more recent films?
    I know a lot of people felt like it makes no sense. But I think we make the mistake when we watch the Nostromo and assume that's how the entire universe looks like. If I decide to make a movie on Earth today, and I go to the Mojave Desert and I take an old truck because a guy drives a Chevy, if you're an alien, you're going to go, "That's what the world looks like." But it doesn't mean there's not a guy in a Tesla in the city, which would be the "Prometheus" ship. The first movie is truck drivers in a beat-up truck. "Prometheus" is the ship of the richest man in the world.
    https://variety.com/2024/film/news/alien-romulus-trailer-fede-alvarez-1235946491/

    The first thing anyone watching the new trailer will be struck by is how your film's retro-futuristic production design recalls the Nostromo. Is it your hope that Romulus will feel of a piece with Ridley Scott's Alien?
    It was the era I was most interested in when we were thinking about making this movie and were suddenly faced with so many choices. Where do you start? That's what I wanted it to be – that era of science-fiction – and particularly that physical space of the first movie. So it starts there, honestly.
    And there were narrative reasons why. It takes place 20 years after the first film. Technology in the world of Alien can change vastly, but I think it's not dependent on time. It's dependent on place. Where you are.
    So the characters of this movie and the world are very blue-collar. The technology is still very low-tech and analog. And, look, I'm a kid from the '80s. Any monitor with some VHS tracking issues puts a lot of joy in my heart.
    https://www.gamesradar.com/alien-romulus-trailer-breakdown-fede-alvarez-interview/
  12. Nightmare Asylum
    Quote from: Mornstar on Jul 07, 2025, 03:15:43 AM@Nightmare Asylum Is it absolutely impossible that the cat was brought aboard the Maginot at a later date? Or maybe the camera was a later W-Y product. When the teaser for Alien: Earth was screened at Disney's D23 convention, many attendees in the convention said it took place in 2050, and officially it took place in 2120. And then it's weird that a lot of people on this forum only thought of time travel and didn't realize that the series spans a lot of time or that the characters would be reminiscing about the past from a long time ago.
    https://www.avpgalaxy.net/2024/11/10/new-alien-earth-artwork-trailer-shown-at-d23/

    I'm not talking about the logo interfaces on the cat's camera, though. I'm talking about the logos on physical parts of the ship.
  13. Mornstar
    @Nightmare Asylum Is it absolutely impossible that the cat was brought aboard the Maginot at a later date? Or maybe the camera was a later W-Y product. When the teaser for Alien: Earth was screened at Disney's D23 convention, many attendees in the convention said it took place in 2050, and officially it took place in 2120. And then it's weird that a lot of people on this forum only thought of time travel and didn't realize that the series spans a lot of time or that the characters would be reminiscing about the past from a long time ago.
    https://www.avpgalaxy.net/2024/11/10/new-alien-earth-artwork-trailer-shown-at-d23/
  14. Mornstar
    @426Buddy According to the Weyland Industries website and the W-Y Report, before the Prometheus sailed from Earth on August 2, 2091, Weyland Corporation had 63 off-world colonies. As a competitor, Yutani Corporation must have had many off-world colonies as well. Changing markings, updating parts and picking up supplies must have been done at the colonies.
  15. Seegson
    He just thinks some details are not that important, and he is just ignoring the prequels, not trying to delete them.
    Anyway, i dont see a problem with that. The black goo will have its time again in the Romulus sequel. Im sure Disney want to ignore all the "David create the xeno" stuff (becouse is the less popular part of the prequels imho) but just that. They like the black goo part.
  16. Xenomorph Nerd
    Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Jul 06, 2025, 05:31:04 PM
    Quote from: Xenomorph Nerd on Jul 06, 2025, 05:27:27 PM@Nightmare Asylum  ;)
    Quote from: Xenomorph Nerd on Jul 02, 2025, 07:32:30 PM
    Quote from: skhellter on Jul 02, 2025, 05:29:00 PMi was having a laugh creating
    the fanwank notion of Maginot
    originally being a Yutani ship.

    Then sometime in their trip they get a message warning them about the company merger.
    And they have to wipe the old stuff and print/stencil all new logos everywhere. Leading to lots of disgruntled workers.

    The merger definitely happened while ships were in space and they definitely had to update everyone (ships, colonies) remotely.

    (it's absolutely cope, but it would be a way to tie things better... which they won't do).
    I had this exact same thought, haha. If the Maginot indeed started its journey in 2055, then one could say that it began as a Yutani Corp ship. Over the years, it might have needed to stop at spaceports or colonies for maintenance as it traveled to every corner of the galaxy. At some point, it could have been directed to stop at a colony or port after the merger had happened, where it was then upgraded with all the latest Weyland-Yutani branded tech and gear. If none of this is addressed in the show, however, then this will just be pure fan-cope, lol.
    Also, in the article this thread discusses, it is stated: 'Yutani's grandmother sent the Maginot on its hunting and gathering mission to deep space,' which is preceded by: 'The Yutani side is a matriarchal corporation,' Hawley says. 'Her grandmother ran the company, and then her mother ran it, and somewhere there was a merger with Weyland. Now Yutani is trying to navigate being the second name in the corporation.'

    This heavily implies that when Yutani's grandmother sent the ship out, the merger hadn't happened yet, since it is only 'now' that Yutani is trying to navigate being the second name in the corporation, post-merger. The way it's written implies that the merger occurred after the current Yutani came into power.

    Which would be fine if the ship was a Yutani ship, but it has the WY logo plastered all over it.
    Like I said in the message I quoted, that COULD have been done after the merger had occurred at a colony or a spaceport. It was updated with the latest Weyland-Yutani gear and tech. They could have then also given the ship a new paint-job, which is probably something that needs to be done regularly for maintenance anyways.
    Either way, from the article it seems that Noah Hawley is either aware of this himself or the show has a continuity error with itself. 
  17. Nightmare Asylum
    Quote from: Xenomorph Nerd on Jul 06, 2025, 05:27:27 PM@Nightmare Asylum  ;)
    Quote from: Xenomorph Nerd on Jul 02, 2025, 07:32:30 PM
    Quote from: skhellter on Jul 02, 2025, 05:29:00 PMi was having a laugh creating
    the fanwank notion of Maginot
    originally being a Yutani ship.

    Then sometime in their trip they get a message warning them about the company merger.
    And they have to wipe the old stuff and print/stencil all new logos everywhere. Leading to lots of disgruntled workers.

    The merger definitely happened while ships were in space and they definitely had to update everyone (ships, colonies) remotely.

    (it's absolutely cope, but it would be a way to tie things better... which they won't do).
    I had this exact same thought, haha. If the Maginot indeed started its journey in 2055, then one could say that it began as a Yutani Corp ship. Over the years, it might have needed to stop at spaceports or colonies for maintenance as it traveled to every corner of the galaxy. At some point, it could have been directed to stop at a colony or port after the merger had happened, where it was then upgraded with all the latest Weyland-Yutani branded tech and gear. If none of this is addressed in the show, however, then this will just be pure fan-cope, lol.
    Also, in the article this thread discusses, it is stated: 'Yutani's grandmother sent the Maginot on its hunting and gathering mission to deep space,' which is preceded by: 'The Yutani side is a matriarchal corporation,' Hawley says. 'Her grandmother ran the company, and then her mother ran it, and somewhere there was a merger with Weyland. Now Yutani is trying to navigate being the second name in the corporation.'

    This heavily implies that when Yutani's grandmother sent the ship out, the merger hadn't happened yet, since it is only 'now' that Yutani is trying to navigate being the second name in the corporation, post-merger. The way it's written implies that the merger occurred after the current Yutani came into power.

    Which would be fine if the ship was a Yutani ship, but it has the WY logo plastered all over it.
  18. Xenomorph Nerd
    @Nightmare Asylum  ;)
    Quote from: Xenomorph Nerd on Jul 02, 2025, 07:32:30 PM
    Quote from: skhellter on Jul 02, 2025, 05:29:00 PMi was having a laugh creating
    the fanwank notion of Maginot
    originally being a Yutani ship.

    Then sometime in their trip they get a message warning them about the company merger.
    And they have to wipe the old stuff and print/stencil all new logos everywhere. Leading to lots of disgruntled workers.

    The merger definitely happened while ships were in space and they definitely had to update everyone (ships, colonies) remotely.

    (it's absolutely cope, but it would be a way to tie things better... which they won't do).
    I had this exact same thought, haha. If the Maginot indeed started its journey in 2055, then one could say that it began as a Yutani Corp ship. Over the years, it might have needed to stop at spaceports or colonies for maintenance as it traveled to every corner of the galaxy. At some point, it could have been directed to stop at a colony or port after the merger had happened, where it was then upgraded with all the latest Weyland-Yutani branded tech and gear. If none of this is addressed in the show, however, then this will just be pure fan-cope, lol.
    Also, in the article this thread discusses, it is stated: 'Yutani's grandmother sent the Maginot on its hunting and gathering mission to deep space,' which is preceded by: 'The Yutani side is a matriarchal corporation,' Hawley says. 'Her grandmother ran the company, and then her mother ran it, and somewhere there was a merger with Weyland. Now Yutani is trying to navigate being the second name in the corporation.'

    This heavily implies that when Yutani's grandmother sent the ship out, the merger hadn't happened yet, since it is only 'now' that Yutani is trying to navigate being the second name in the corporation, post-merger. The way it's written implies that the merger occurred after the current Yutani came into power.
  19. MonsterTerminator
    Well do not forget this comment about how Alien: Earth Ignores Prometheus "Noah Hawley's comments on his upcoming Alien TV show all but confirms it will not adhere to the events of Prometheus and Covenant. Hawley noted how he prefers to view Alien's titular monster as the "product of millions of years of evolution" rather than "a bioweapon created half an hour ago,".
  20. Xenomorph Nerd
    If that's the case and it doesn't get explained, then it will be a plot hole left for fans to resolve through their own headcanon.

    There are plenty of franchises in which installments have continuity issues like this regarding their timelines, yet they don't split each installment into its own universe. These errors are simply left unexplained.
  21. Xenomorph Nerd
    Based on everything Noah Hawley has said, I don't think Alien: Earth exists in a different continuity. Whether it officially becomes part of the films' canon will mostly depend on the movies released after it and whether or not they retcon the show. From Hawley's side though, it doesn't seem likely that he intends to disconnect the show from the films. It's clear he wants to connect the series to the original movie, but he's also expressed a desire not to break the canon as a whole. He simply didn't analyse every single movie into great detail, which could lead to some continuity errors. So if the Maginot really did launch 65 years ago, it's a simple plot hole and not evidence of an alternate universe.

    There was a great Inverse article about this that got deleted but you can still read the archived version.

    "Other than the shark in Jaws, this is the most iconic monster in all of film history. And I lived for 28 years of my life believing that this creature was the perfect organism that had evolved over millions of years. Right? Then, Ridley made Prometheus and engaged with another idea in terms of the origin of these creatures. It just wasn't part of my DNA of how these movies worked. So, so I chose not to engage with that part of the story and to just sort of speak to the Alien that I had encoded."

    To be clear, Hawley isn't pretending like the rest of the Alien timeline doesn't exist, however. "It's not that I didn't do a timeline around the events," he clarifies. "But I didn't expand it to incorporate everything that had ever been written."

    So, fans who were hoping that Alien: Earth would tie up loose ends about David (Michael Fassbender) or the various different kinds of xenomorphs from Covenant might want to curb their canon dot-connecting expectations. Alien: Earth won't violate the chest-bursting canon. But it's not going to be obsessed with that canon, either.


    https://web.archive.org/web/20250527030212/https://www.inverse.com/entertainment/alien-earth-canon-alien-timeline-noah-hawley-sxsw-2025
  22. MonsterTerminator
    As seen in AVP/AVPR, The Predators used the Xenomorph as a tool of the blooding ritual and Space Jockies/Engineers had no involvement, In Prometheus and Alien: Covenant, the Xenomorphs origin is that its a bioweapon created by the engineers and than later perfected by the Android David, now this Alien: Earth TV show comes along and its retconned those are a natural evolution and not a bio weapon.Maybe in the future yet another origin of Xenomorphs would happen from yet another writer that ignores Alien: Earth.
  23. SiL
    Except the discussion is clearly just the movies, so no, that doesn't make sense at all.

    The point is, on screen, there are two origins presented. It doesn't matter that AvP is part of the series or canon or whatever; the films happened, they exist, they showed something.
  24. [cancerblack]
    I'm suggesting that if we're going for stuff the owners have explicitly kept separate, then the comics and novels all count too because they're less distant. If you really want to argue that then go ahead, but it's a bit much.
  25. SiL
    It doesn't matter if it's a distinct property or not, the point is the origin is different in the AvP movies. They don't need to be origin stories to establish a different origin.
  26. [cancerblack]
    Quote from: Local Trouble on Jul 06, 2025, 06:22:47 AMDoesn't the mere fact that the aliens exist in the ancient past mean they have a different origin in the AvP continuity, whether we know what it is or not?

    Not if it's a legally distinct property from the main franchise.

    (Note, my headcanon is that the goo is derived from and will always try to reconvene into, something resembling the Alien and that it represents some form of primordial chaos, but as far as the Alien brand is concerned, there's only one origin for now)
  27. [cancerblack]
    Exactly. AvP being set before Alien in no way makes it an origin story, and the prequels are the only current one. The series may show something different, but may also be so aggressively it's own thing that it's a mostly distinct, separate timeline.
  28. SiL
    Quote from: Mornstar on Jul 05, 2025, 06:41:41 PMDoes Scott really not have any ownership on Alien franchise? He's said he's been busy and negligent in his ownership dealings, and his partners haven't been on top of the matter either.
    Your quote at the end of the post is him flat out saying he has no ownership over it.

    QuoteStarting with the production of Prometheus to its eventual release, Scott kept the new AVP movie from coming out.
    Fox abandoned AvP movies after the second movie bombed. Scott had nothing to do with it.
  29. MonsterTerminator
    The Xenomorphs already have like 3 prequel origin stories timelines now, first Alien vs. Predator/Aliens vs. Predator: Requiem, than Prometheus and Alien: Covenant, now this Alien: Earth TV show, thats like 3 damn origin stories now these writers can't make up their minds on how it really began.
  30. SM
    QuoteDoes Scott really not have any ownership on Alien franchise?

    No and never did.  Fox owned it and Brandywine produced Aliens and Alien3 from a practical standpoint. After that, Fox ran it in house.  Ridley has influence though due to his industry clout.  If anyone could truly claim ownership it's Dan O'Bannon and Ron Shusett.

    Quotehow many origins are they making for the Xenomorph?

    So far there's one.  There might be another when this show comes out. Or there might not.
  31. Xenomorph Nerd
    Random thought I had: in the ship crew promotional video, one of the Maginot crew members says, 'Everyone I know is dead—well, not everyone, but might as well be. My kids are older than me now.' If the ship really did take off 65 years ago with its crew, it seems odd that this man would be confident that people he knows are still alive. Maybe he's purely talking about his children and maybe they were newborns when he left, and he's confident they all made it to 65—but I think his tone would have been rather different if that were the case.
    I know this isn't anything definitive, just something I thought about.

    0:58
  32. [cancerblack]
    Quote from: MonsterTerminator on Jul 05, 2025, 02:56:22 PMTo be honest, Invasion of the Body Snatchers and John Carpenters The Thing hold up better than Alien, If I wanna read were it all began I can just read the original books Body Snatchers and The Thing, those awesome classic movies are based on the books. Alien Franchise has yet another prequel to make for the the Xenomorphs and its getting out of control, how many origins are they making for the Xenomorph?. The truth hurts when Ridley Scott says he has no ownership of the Alien Franchise  to anyone can retcon it the way they like at Fox lol, besides the Xenomorph is all over the place in origins.

    What a weird thing to make or break Alien for you.
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