The deluge of Predator: Killer of Killers interviews continues, like a river of blood after a Predator has finished slaughtering its last prey. Speaking to the folk over at Polygon, Predator: Killer of Killers director Dan Trachtenberg was asked about the possibility of the return of other legacy survivors after the big reveal that Prey’s Naru was in cryo-stasis on the Predator planet.
“So the movie was made under the code name Warehouse, as that end moment was in the original idea pitch to the studio, and it felt like the end of Raiders of the Lost Ark,” Trachtenberg told Polygon in a video interview. “Certainly Arnold, like many others, was a survivor of his story, and one could easily imagine him up there in cryo, along with any other Earth champion or champion from other planets.”
Polygon pushed the coy director, who wouldn’t dish the gossip on if he or 20th Century Studios had approached Arnold Schwarzenegger to reprise his role as Dutch in any future instalment, but Trachtenberg did confirm that he was actively planning for a sequel to Predator: Killer of Killers.
“Yeah, certainly. The cool [part] of this movie is that it opens up the door to tell these kinds of stories in different eras, in different places, in different planets — but also, the further adventures of these heroes that we bonded with in a very unique way.”
Though we’ve yet to see Dutch return in a movie, Arnie did make his big reappearance in the Predator franchise when he returned to reprise his role as Dutch for Illfonic’s video game Predator: Hunting Ground. Would you like to see a future film take the lore introduced in Hunting Grounds into consideration.
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Predators aren't being sent back to different time periods. They're just hunting in the time periods that they live in, and collecting prey to put in stasis along the way. That prey is then thawed out in batches at whatever point in the future.
many such cases out there
I'll take animated Frazetta-land over Robert Rodriguez's backyard, myself.
But this... nah.
His comments in other interviews kind of suggest that, somewhat, yeah. But I would also like for Dan to more explicitly show that if he does have a preference for some style (no fishnets, smaller heads, no plasma caster yet, mandibles out of the mask, specific cloaking stuff) that it really is from this one tribe. It can be large and diverse somewhat, but it would kind of make sense if he has certain preferences that he doesn't want to budge from.
Then it would be even easier for me to justify some of the changes, the stuff he does will be from the Dan Clan and that's it. It doesn't have to encompass all future and past Predators.
The mandibles around the outside of the masks, the way the cloaking and technology in general all appear, it's all the same as Feral.
And I am willing to bet Greyback comes from a very separate Tribe if you like, as did Jungle Hunter and Classic, the big guys we are seeing here exist somewhere between the traditional Predators and the Berserkers I believe.
I don't play favourites, as long as it's not The Predator, then I'm good.
@426Buddy for about 2 seconds, same in killer of killers it just seems rushed, quick glance of thermal vision, quick scan of weapons to check if prey is worthy , for me it's all rushed. Killing off 3 predators in one movie is also not great in my opion.
Feral took his time when he was approaching the main French trapper that Naru set up, so he clearly knew that he was the leader, since he even took his head as a trophy.
Predators are drawn to conflict are they not? Yes ,taking out the gangs and the other armed passengers probably was all abit of fun but when it homed in on Jerry it took its time. I guess thats why we all love these films , each of us will see it different and have our own thoughts of why they do what they do, it's just how I like to look at it. Just my opion again but the strategic kills to draw out the alpha, the predators being drawn by conflict and heat and even the mimics all made the predator what they are and Dan doesn't seem to being going in that direction. I seem to be in the minority as Dan is clearly smashing it but I would still like a blend of what I believe makes the Preds great and new ideas.
Doesn't the Onyx version have him associating with mobsters and murderers? Even despite that bit in the original movie where he specifies that his unit "is a rescue team, not assassins" and is clearly trying to stick with "doing good" as a team leader?
It was the least strategically sensible place to strike. He ends that bit by walking straight as someone shoots right at him.
It's just reckless behavior. It's fine. It's why that's a fun movie.
In my option the Predator did strategically hit the train to take out Jerry, it was watching him from the roof top talking to Mike in a previous scene. Harrigan was king of his jungle, the thrill of the hunt was taking out all those around, waiting to see how Harrigan would step up before attempting to take him as next trophy. Just my option but those small things made the predator stand out from other generic monsters/ aliens.
Prey and this movie both feature predators patiently analyzing and stalking their prey. One even patiently waited for a 1v1 duel to end before attacking the winner?
This is very true. Until Hunting Grounds, there wasn't really a Dutch in the old EU. There were suggestions of him - as Master Chief says, Onyx was intended to be Dutch - but Fox never let it be explicit in-case Arnie did come back in a future film. I did enjoy his return in Hunting Grounds and would love to see Dan continue down that story path, but we're on an Alien & Predator fan community. We've known since 1992 that the films aren't beholden to the expanded universe.
Personally speaking, I think if Arnie was to return outside of Hunting Grounds, an animated feature would certainly be the perfect way to do.
What gave you the impression he was doing this? I recall only one time he mentions his squad being wiped, with 'Cleopatra' leaving him scarred and almost killing him in the process as well. IIRC, it makes him question the entire endeavor too, before he faces the harsh realization that both Stargazer and the predators will continue to wreak even worse carnage if he simply walks away.
"The enemy of my enemy is my friend"
"La luna del cacciatore"
Cringe.
There is no singular Dutch canon in the old EU, so why get upset of Trachtenberg potentially adding another different storyline for him? Especially when Marvel themselves will eventually add their own new one too in the new comics.
Hehehe, yeah I don't think most fans are eager to see Alexa Woods again.
But to give a straight answer, never mind the rest of the AVP movie in 2004, Alexa Woods herself isn't a terribly interesting character. That's not the fault of the actress portraying her, Sanaa Lathan, she did the best she could with the material she was given. But its more an issue with how she was written in the first place by the talentless hack Paul Anderson.
Arnold's always made it clear he'd come back if he had an actual role with things to do. He's never been interested in cameos and nothing parts. That why he agreed to Hunting Grounds because they gave him the Dutch tapes to play, though he's never been shy when comes to his likeness in video games.
What about Alexa Woods from AvP? Not that they would be hunting her per given she didn't go head to head with a Predator rather teamed up with one.
And there is your tie in to lead to another AvP film.
I'll get my coat.
(this was a sarcastic post for those not reading between the lines)
Yeah I don't think the EU is strict canon set in stone, rather more a source of info and inspiration for filmmakers like Dan.
That's a great character.
As far as I'm concerned, the EU is a pool of material that can (and will be) be plucked from as a source of inspiration, or for ideas/terms/characters/whatever of interest, but there's no mandate that what's on screen adhere to it.
Fede plucked Plagiarus praepotens from the pages of The Cold Forge, but used it at a point in the timeline where that term shouldn't exist because The Cold Forge wouldn't have happened yet. And that's more than OK, in my book. Dan's now explicitly nicked the term "Yautja" but doesn't really seem to be doing anything that's explicitly beholden to Perry with the concept.
He had no idea there was a backstory to the flintlock and ruined that story. There's a lot of info on Dutch after the events of the first film and will ruin that if he isn't stopped. Haha Smh Someone let Dan read their Predator: South China Sea novel and tell him pay attention to the Onyx character.
Too many yes-men on his team.
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