After a nearly 5 years of meticulous work from the team over at Project A34K, the much anticipated Alien 3 – The Legacy Cut is now available! For those of you out there who are wondering what we’re talking about, The Legacy Cut is a fan edit of Alien 3 that aimed to upscale the film to 4K resolution and to finally do the film’s creature effects justice. Just that effort alone involved going frame by frame to trace around the puppet.
Check out Alien 3 – The Legacy Cut’s release trailer below!
In addition to changes to the colour grading, the Alien’s visual effects and some environmental tidying, Alien 3 – The Legacy Cut is also a slight blending of both the generally much preferred Assembly Cut and Theatrical Cut of Alien 3 which keeps the additional footage of the Assembly and Spike/the dogburster from the Theatrical Cut. There are also some additional narrative tweaks including changes to the opening credits to remove the facehugger.
Be sure to head on over to www.a34k.net to check out further details about Project A34K’s fantastic work on this new fan cut, including before and afters so you can see this impressive work side-by-side with the original! You can also request a copy of the film through the form on the home page.
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Absolutely. Personally I was forced to take the habit to "disrupt" words like r@pe, r^cism, transph0bia, f4scism etc in various ways because it is now common for all kinds of social networks to ban, shadowban or lock away user profiles and posts displaying such words.
And we don't always have the time to learn what's okay and what's not okay on every website, so better make it into an universal move.
It's sad but such is the garbage cyberpunk dystopia we live in.
AFAIK it's done to get past censor filters of commenting platforms (even if the words aren't outright censored, lots of places will automatically flag comments with these words for review [sometimes perpetually], likely because they're sometimes considered telltale signs of trolling/flaming), and it then just becomes a habit for some or they just do it pre-emptively to avoid TOS issues.
And I suppose others may do it for personal reasons but I don't judge where people decide to establish their own boundaries because I don't live in their shoes.
ALIENS' facehugger scurrying around sound and Skeletor popping his head out of the water to tell us he'd be back! (spoiler: he never came back) is why as a kid I learned to stay around until the end credits were completely done; long before the yoots of today with their
MST3KMarvel stingers.Also a long time ago I headcanoned (and inserted into my old highly-customized Leading Edge Games Alien rpg) the notion that facehuggers can go into a hibernation state if they can't find a victim right away, where they build up a smaller, egg-like cocoon around themselves, to explain the Sulaco egg (and it's weird position in the middle of seemingly nowhere near the hangar bay), and now it was all for naught.
Great work by the way.
Or use the theatrical cut with the dog which makes more sense since the alien is a runner.
It's Nerf or nuthin'
I also only would like the 720p version anyway.
Watched the Alien Theory review on YouTube instead.
Ah right. Cheers.
I have a vague recollection of this now from months back.
It is cool that you managed their approval, but much whinging for my liking, I might have rather had the official commentary or one by the people who actually made this iteration.
On the bright side, the options of four alternate tracks for audio's absolutely wonderful that aside.
The inclusion of the WAV file in particular's a standout, sounding better than many official releases.
Project A34K just considered removing the line specifying Dillon's crimes, and after some discussion with other fans, finally decided against it.
EDIT: Ninja'd by SiL.
As has been discussed repeatedly, even at the top of this page of the thread.
Nope. Apparently that's the problem. He hasn't been appropriately bowdlerized.
Haven't watched this - has something been changed about Dillon?
What the cut does is mostly aesthetic for sure. It's a special effects overhaul, color regrade resolution enhancement. Narratively it's a marriage of both existing versions. For sure the biggest draw for viewers seems to be the cleaned up sfx on the alien.
Regarding where the facehuggers came from, interesting fact, if you watch Aliens until the end of the credits, you can actually hear face huggers scuttling around inside the Sulaco. The egg never needed to be there. A sequel was already set up the entire time 🤷
But that's off topic so I'll get back on.
I am keen to see what this version of yours adds. The Assembly cut did give the prisoners some more screentime here and there, some parts fleshed out.
Removing the magic egg is already a plus in my book but then it does need to explain where the huggers came from, but then again them sneaking on board when the Queen did is not hard to imagine.
if you got 18,000 requests, how the heck are you going to get around answering everyone?
By the end he's rejected all of it and gives his life to save the people back on earth, no less than Ripley did. He was a r**ist and murderer of women, and in the course of the story he stopped the r**e of a woman with force, and would rather give his own life than take hers.
A bit of clarity helped me see it is all.
Glad you dug it, buddy
That's cool, to each their own
I'm really glad everyone is giving it a shot, though, and buzz around here helped. We're at about 18,000 requests now
Thanks for this smart and respectful message. I do agree that we won't find common ground, since we're working by different postulates, but I appreciate your perspective and this quick exchange with you was most pleasing.
Yet I feel it's either the release print or the assembly cut. Sure a clean up of the FX etc but to change the storyline in the opening scenes and such is not personally something I'm into
https://www.a34k.net
No harm done hahaha
Aha! Sorry mate. I didn't realise there was one already (shows how time poor I am in reading all the details) - no offense meant.
Spoiler
It's omnipresent in Western societies (thanks to patriarchy and other systems of domination, as well as a lot of underlying ideologies such as toxic masculinity), and it's a lot harder to appropriately depict and explore than, let's say, murder, because sexual violence is tied to body autonomy, consent, agency, abuse, power relationships, PTSD and other delicate matters, and it's also a bad, traumatizing experience a lot of people have to face. The entire subject of breach of consent, assault and r@pe is a complicated one.
Furthermore, Alien 3 is certainly not the most delicate work in the various ways it evokes the topic. I think no one will question, for example, that the big r@pe attempt on rock music in the middle of the movie was in poor taste for example - and that the Legacy Cut's decision to at least change the soundtrack is an excellent move.
To give an explicit r@pist a heroic role, to make him a mentor of the community and a protective presence to the heroine, to allow him to find redemption both before and in the course of the movie, is an extreme choice. It's a choice that comes with a lot of difficult implications, and that can, by itself, have bad emotional impact on survivors, or make the conversation on consent more complicated. It's a choice that can even play in some patriarchal codes about tragic negative masculine figures (but that is another can of worms that would necessitate long explanations, and we're not going to have this one conversation).
I'm not saying it's a BAD story choice, it may even be the ethical one. You could make a case that to depict people as "beyond salvation" in some circumstances reeks of some kind of essentialism, of the conviction that one can somehow become ontologically evil/without worth. And that the tale here steers away from this kind of moral absolutism, and ends up painting a more humane picture, where no one is too far gone, where anyone can find a better path for themselves and others, where it's always time to change yourself. There is something powerful in there, and in this way Dillon's past may, strangely, become part of the movie's light, not of its darkness.
But it is still an extreme choice. And it would have been a valid and understandable decision to reorient the movie in another direction.
I also think, like others, that framing this kind of consideration as the editor "feeling offended" is a questionable choice of words.
It's not about "shock". Do you think one could even consider editing ALIEN 3 of all movies if they are "offended" by sexual violence?
Rather, it's a matter of ethics, relevance and appropriateness in the ways in which stories explore specific themes.
(If I understand right Project A34K's past interrogations.)
No HDR I'm afraid. We are open minded about it in the future but for now no luck.
There already is a "proper" cover design, cheeky
That being said, curious and happy to see what someone else comes up with
In the works
Oof I didn't know that. I thought this was just some fanboy turf thing. I'm not much of a fan of his channel but sometimes one of his videos pops up and 50/50 chance I watch it if it's about the movies (mostly prequels because it's hard to find non-hate content for those).
Anyway, I'd much rather watch/listen to an AvP podcast about the Legacy Cut. Hint nudge.
Suggestion: we move on from talking about Alien Theory here. This is the thread of an incredible fancut, as far as I know the definitive version of Alien 3, and it doesn't deserve to be now about Alien Theory.
(There's also a pretty serviceable thread to denounce Alien Theory's shit already.)
He has stolen from Xenopedia, SM's timeline site. The Weyland-Yutani report and CMTM. Probably more too but he has a lot of videos, so going through all of them would be tedious. SM should make a copyright strike or authorize someone to do so on his behalf.
Alien Theory actually did join up to try and dispute the plagiarist claims. He jumps in on this thread at this page. https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/index.php?topic=61495.30
Whose work(s) did this guy rip off? And is he a member here?
Yeah, Alien Theory is a known plagiarist. He steals from Xenopedia, the Alien Timeline site, and even the W-Y report and CMTM. Not a channel or someone to associate with. I have already copyright struck him. He is currently trying to counter and made absurd claims about not knowing who is responsible despite having been confronted about it on here.
If you wish to see for yourself, check this thread out https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/index.php?topic=61495.0