Recently, during a detailed interview with Vulture, while discussing the future budgets of upcoming shows under the FX Network’s head John Landgraf, co-chair of Disney Entertainment Dana Walden spoke fondly of the first 3 episodes of Noah Hawley’s Alien: Earth, coming Summer 2025:
Alien: Earth’ is a big shot for John [Landgraf], and I’ve actually seen the first three episodes. It’s excellent and it feels huge, and we’re grateful to Alan and his side for letting us engage with that IP. But if you are going to trust one person in one team with beloved IP, I would say John’s about as good a bet as any. So, we are going to continue taking shots at all levels (of budget).
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Basically, if they use the RPG and just say that the jockeys and the aliens predate the engineers
No one would complain again
While I love that the expanded universe is going in this direction, I do hope the cinematic universe will steer us back in this direction.
Prometheus is still unsatisfying to me, but some critiques around the use of the Alien itself in Covenant aside, one of the things I always appreciated about Covenant was that it felt like a redo to me. It went back to a more Spaihts' take and I love that.
The RPG does just that.
Even if most people don't like the prequels, you don't necessarily have to ignore it. The focus could be placed on other aspects of the Alien Earth show and nothing from the prequels would need to be explored further or mentioned much.
However, their existence does not have to be denied because of this.
I think it would be very weak if a film were to be completely ignored.
it is the cheapest way to generate something new.
I always prefer a way to tie everything together.
there would (still) be ways to do that.
Prometheus and Covenant did not do the damage to the Alien brand that THE Predator did to the Predator franchise.
Blomkamp's A5 would also have been a case that would have damaged too much.
But Prometheus and Covenant are absolutely not part of it, because there are enough possibilities to steer it in a different direction without completely canceling these films.
Even now there are still ways to declare the space jockeys a biomechanical race and have the xenos as an ancient species from the depths of space.
Nevertheless, the Engineers and David can continue to exist.
It also didn't give people any answers to what was asked in the first film.
Those ARE the most common complaints from people who aren't terminally online.
Only the chronically online like Prometheus
As proven by covenant's box office returns and the negative reaction to Romulus's ending
One thing I would say is while I don't like the black goo, I did like what W-Y was doing with it in Romulus.
Instead of the "bio-weapons" angle that is constantly used, the experiments are to improve colony living for humans and that does make sense when you consider the threats humans have to deal with when it comes to colonization. Diseases, bacteria and fungi that the immune system would have not recognize how to deal with due to humans not evolving in those environments.
That being said, if such ideas are used in the series or any other alien media that ignores the prequel, they will need to change the compound from being black goo to something else that comes from the Aliens.
And for whatever issues I have with Romulus (mostly, digital Ian Holm and the sheer amount of callbacks), its embrace of prequel elements and the way it even more directly marries them to the original elements from earlier films is not at all a problem for me. Love that stuff.
All that said, I'm also pro-different takes, so I'm curious and open to seeing what Noah's take on everything is.
Disagree. The concepts from the prequels widen the scope of the Alien franchise and offer more depth and variety. Making it a disconnected universe would have been a poor move.
The core elements of Prometheus (Black Goo, David, Engineers, etc.) that feed into Covenant are never what I had any problem with. On paper, that all rocks.
My issues are pretty much purely structural. The writing is a mess, the editing somehow even messier. There's so much of real interest in its core ideas (so much so that I have genuinely earnest appreciation for the film), but I cannot bring myself to *love* it for the way it basically kneecaps itself and its honest to God potential.
Doesn't stop me from revisiting it every year, though.
And I'm not exactly wading in Alien fans - it's people I start talking to who find out I'm an Alien fan and volunteer the information for the most part.
I've never encountered anything beyond at worst, mild disappointment, and much more commonly, mild positivity for it, in the wild. It's not beloved but it's definitely not hated in my experience.
Thing is, you cannot have Covenant without Prometheus, so the latter film automatically deserves esteem with that in mind. I wasn't a huge fan of Prometheus when it was more or less standalone, but the sequel definitely elevates it.
Covenant I haven't watched in its entirety since its release and I should probably change that. But I remember thinking literally all of my issues with it could've been solved by just not having the Alien in it.
Prometheus had pretty much settled at the bottom of the list for me. I have a lot of appreciation for what it is (going for) but it's so much of a structural mess that it's hard for me to outright love it, despite my overall affection for what it wants to be. My issues with it and Romulus are wildly different, but I'd probably put both movies on par with one another – I'm glad that they both exist, despite the unique elements they each have some trouble grappling with.
I still think there's a chance Alien Earth will be entirely its own thing and I don't necessarily think that's a bad thing either.
What intrigues me is where the eggs come from. A distant moon implies LV-426, which means the show could explain how the company knows of the derelict when the Nostromo is rerouted. Or, it's simply somewhere new, which might be slightly jarring when taking the continuity of the films into account. Time will tell I guess.
People who touch grass generally like Prometheus, just not as much as the first two films. The hate for it only exists on the internet.
Covenant though is legitimately disliked by the average punter.
Reasonable. I hope you're wrong, though. Eject the prequels outta space.
Also, Isolation and dark descent ignored the prequels. (for what its worth)
Also, has anyone considered the show might ignore ALL the movies? The way Noah made Fargo informs me this is more of a reboot of the mythos.
My dear friend, we don't take xeno-zip around here anymore since it has been retconned out of continuity (unlike the Plagiarus and Engineers, you know?), so I would be vastly interested in knowing the coordinates of your dealer.
Noah said he was less interested in the prequels than in the material of the first movies and that he was going in different directions than Scott. And that to him the Alien was the product of millions of years of evolution.
Nowhere, absolutely NOWHERE, does he say he'll "take a massive dump on David" (WTF?
You keep writing your revenge fic, you're just setting yourself up to get even more disappointed and angry when Peter Weyland is quoted in the series or you get a facehugger ejaculating some Plagiarus.
The idea that Prometheus is accepted by the general audience is deeply hilarious
Because it simply isn't true
Covenant declined by 50 percent, the box office drop was consistent with an audience that deeply loathed the first movie
It's also hilarious how anyone can interpret any of Noah's statements as prequel positive
He said himself that he is going to take a massive dump on David and would ignore the prequels in their entirety
And even said as much that this is deeply rooted in his portrayal of the alien as an organism that isn't a bioweapon
Intellectual property.
Again, it's been the most commercially successful movie in the entire franchise, it's been twelve years and every official Alien product and their neighbour use elements introduced by Prometheus, I don't see it this despised and I absolutely don't see it frontally fought by Noah's work.
What could be interesting would be for some of the themes in the TV series were a kind of answer and discussion with the prequels, like the last parts of Alien: Romulus were.
I don't think it'll happen, though! I think Noah is gonna do his own thing. He won't contradict or deny the prequels, we will certainly see some elements of them even, but he will tell a vastly different story and go to vastly different places.
Think that's somewhat of an exaggeration. There is a substantial chunk of cinemagoers who think the prequels rock - myself included.
Heck, even if I'm wrong - I'm happy to be in the minority.
Then they gave us the micro-dorsal-tubes.
That is what SHE SAID!
The burden of fandom.
That movie would have lost 75 percent of its revenue because of their hatred for covenant and Prometheus
Coffee dispenser.
Do you have kids? That'll help take your mind off it
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