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“We Are Investigating Aliens From The Fan Perspective,” Talking Aliens Expanded with Writer/Director Ian Nathan & Executive Producer Robin Block – AvP Galaxy Podcast #152

We have just uploaded the 152nd episode of the Alien vs. Predator Galaxy Podcast (right-click and save as to download)! In this episode, Corporal Hicks is joined by Writer/Director Ian Nathan & Executive Producer Robin Block to discuss the upcoming fan produced and fan focused documentary Aliens Expanded!

 "We Are Investigating Aliens From The Fan Perspective," Talking Aliens Expanded with Writer/Director Ian Nathan & Executive Producer Robin Block - AvP Galaxy Podcast #152

We discuss Ian and Robin’s history with the franchise and documentary making, how Aliens Expanded stands out from the other documentaries about Aliens, the goals they have with Aliens Expanded, the legacy of Aliens and plenty more!

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  1. BlueMarsalis79
    The only bad parts I can see will be good this year, and then we will have the definitive version, both in terms of quality and editing structure.

    I do wish we had got Ridley Scott's and James Cameron's Alien V they planned instead of AVP.
  2. OpenMaw
    If he had wanted to, he could have. He didn't want to. Much the same with Terminator 3. He made T2 3D instead.

    Personally? I think it would have been great if Ridley and Cameron had done a collab for Alien 3. Jim writing, Ridley directing. I could see that turning out as a solid end to the trilogy, depending on what they did with it.

    On the other hand there are a lot of things to like with the Alien 3 we got. Which is why I liken it to being in an abusive relationship. It's not all bad, but the bad hurts me.

  3. SiL
    Next time someone speaks to them maybe tell them that exclusively marketing the film to people who have at least once thought of dropping to their knees and felating James Cameron - while certainly a market segment they want to capture - is maybe a bit more limited than they realise.

    I really hope the movie turns out well but f**k me I could go for hours on their marketing.
  4. BlueMarsalis79
    I was wary to begin with, but being an Aliens fan I filled out their questionnaire, I think I am the only one here to have actually said so at the time. The sycophantic praise in the ads have outright made me loathe this thing before it exists, and remind me so much unpleasantly of a certain crop of this fandom that want everything to be Aliens, you would think @Perfect-Organism on acid was running their various social media accounts. 
  5. Corporal Hicks
    We talked about the use of the word documentary in the podcast actually and how I felt it was to their detriment a little bit. It's not intended to be like Charles' documentaries (who is featured in this btw), or to be like a big behind-the-scenes look. They want it to be a companion piece. They'll be behind the scenes components, but it'll be doing things like exploring the themes present in a scene, how it ties into the wider lore, and cultural impact (in terms of fandom and cinema).

    I guess kind of more like a visual-take on the Minute-by-Minute podcasts that we've seen for various movies. It's not going to be like their other features they've done.

    I always ask that "what are you going to do new" question of things like this. It doesn't always have to be some new tidbit from behind-the-scenes, as I enjoy the new approaches to exploring the content. Memory wasn't some enlightening new experience, but it at least had this focused exploration going on, even if it was a bit reaching in some of the analytic aspects of it. I wasn't the biggest fan of it, but it was trying to do something new and was certainly worth my time.

    Besides, Rinzler proved there's always something new about the films buried in terms of behind-the-scenes anyway (because yet again, we asked the same question of the announcement of those books), and I know there's still drafts and details locked away that we still don't have access to.

    It's a shame their advertisement has put some of you off, but I'm really looking forward to seeing what they do do with the approach they're taking. I'm quite excited for it actually, otherwise I wouldn't have agreed to get involved.
  6. Elmazalman
    The feature-length Quadrilogy / Anthology documentaries were very thorough - and their Enhancement Pods added to the thoroughness.

    The last ALIEN doc offered little that was new, if anything? I don't expect this new ALIENS doc to be any different.
  7. SiL
    I think it looks like fan-wanking back patting because that's how they've marketed it, not because there's anything wrong with celebrating a movie.

    The amount of hyperbole, the sycophantic praise, and the strange touches of alienating members of the fandom with comments like "Aliens is undoubtedly the high watermark of the franchise" are just really unappealing.

    I love documentaries that look at the cultural and industry impact of stories but when you're saying James Cameron is "the most hands on director in history", you're not setting yourself up as having a particularly good enough grasp of the subject matter to make an insightful point, y'know?
  8. 426Buddy
    More like get new interviews with the cast and crew on how the film and its reception have effected their lives. Fans talking about why they love the film and how it's effected their lives. Talk about how it's impacted film and pop culture overall. Probably lots of other fun stuff.  Documentary doesn't mean it has to be an indepth "making of", it's a pretty broad term. Besides we already got that with the Quadrilogy, there isn't anything left in that arena.

    Just because it's a celebration of the film doesn't mean it should be characterized as fan wanking back padding which just feels cynical for the sake of it. Shouldn't be anything wrong with fans exclaiming "OH MY GOD ITS AWESOME!!!"" about a film they like. Although it rubs a lot of people the wrong way I guess I don't really see the issue.

    Anyway that's all I got, I didn't put my money in on this one so it's not likely I'll see it anyway.
  9. OpenMaw
    Quote from: 426Buddy on Oct 05, 2022, 01:21:55 PMHave you watched any of there previous efforts like 'In Search of Darkness" or "In Search of Tomorrow"? Or listen to the AvP Galaxy Podcast?

    It's more of a celebration of the film with fans and the cast/crew/guests. The purpose is not specifically to uncover or learn more about the making of, which has been pretty exhausted already.

    Basically, if you love aliens this is something  to collectively  celebrate that love. If you're not interesting in gushing over Aliens then this is really not something you will be interested in.

    Considering the quality and success of their previous efforts I'm sure this will be fun.

    Okay, but i'm not the one using the word "documentary." They are. If it's a celebration and tribute to Aliens, fine, that's fair enough. But if it's supposed to be a documentary and instead its just an hour of people saying "OH MY GOD ITS AWESOME!!!!" That's... I don't know. It's just not fitting what they're selling.
  10. judge death
    To me its pretty clear it will be a fan made service tribute video to aliens rather than a documentary with a degree of internal fan amazment of the movie/ backpadding eachother and fan wank talk of how amazing thd movie is and hail it as the best movie ever etc. Kinda obvious from all pr on youtube, see an add for it everywhere... I will skip it, if its not a documentary trying to find new materials and how they made the movie and interviews with actors etc but interviews with fans about their experiences... I watch the quadrilogy docu rather.
  11. 426Buddy
    Have you watched any of there previous efforts like 'In Search of Darkness" or "In Search of Tomorrow"? Or listen to the AvP Galaxy Podcast?

    It's more of a celebration of the film with fans and the cast/crew/guests. The purpose is not specifically to uncover or learn more about the making of, which has been pretty exhausted already.

    Basically, if you love aliens this is something  to collectively  celebrate that love. If you're not interesting in gushing over Aliens then this is really not something you will be interested in.

    Considering the quality and success of their previous efforts I'm sure this will be fun.
  12. OpenMaw
    Quote from: SiL on Oct 05, 2022, 05:19:14 AMI'm still pissed at them calling James Cameron the "most hands on director in history".

    He's definitely one hands on director in history.

    I think the scope of the hype on this thing is going to lead to dissappointment. I kept seeing it pop up, too, and the only thing I can think is "Wow, they're selling this like it's the next Alien movie."

    I can already see a lot of "S'alright." Reviews/reactions to it. No offense to anyone who has put in the hours of work on it... But it is still supposed to be a documentary. Gotta know your lane. 
  13. SiL
    Facebook is where I saw it all, and each post was somehow more ludicrous and sycophantic than the last.

    I'm still pissed at them calling James Cameron the "most hands on director in history".
  14. 426Buddy
    Probably because it's a fundraising campaign. I only have Facebook and that's just for keeping in touch with family. So I've not really run into a lot of Expanded advertising.

    But since the fundraising is now over it will probably be comparatively quiet for the next year or more while they work on it.



  15. Cosmic Incubation
    Is anyone who's backing putting their AVPG username for their credit name?

    I was thinking about doing my actual name with my username after. Except i'll have to take out the space inbetween to make it fit the character limit (CosmicIncubation).
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