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Ross Poulter, one of the Weyland-Yutani Bulletin admins called it a "phenomenal achievement. Done with heart."
I'm going to sleep.
My tongue was firmly in my cheek when I wrote that.
Not sure, I'll have to check that out. If he is then that is just one more to add to list to expose. Both AVPG and SM's videos are original and done well so there is no need for all this theft.
$100
Here is the thread I think, or atleast one of them. https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/index.php?topic=61495.msg2510534#msg2510534
I know of Mr. H. - Any other big names in the fandom that tote themselves around as genuine but are really kinda shitty? I'd love to know who to steer clear of.
For that, you can have £100 and my soul. 😄
Precisement.
Precisement also. Unless you could pin down literally dozens of examples, his fanbase isn't going to care. I'd rather get on with my own stuff.
This one?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yDp3cB5fHXQ
I don't think people are going to get much traction behind them without something like this. I remember a couple of examples posted before but it was only a couple of sentences verbatim from Xenopedia (iirc). He has a massive audience that wont be convinced without a good expose.
I realize the irony of it, but I don't tend to watch a lot of Alien or Predator content creators. I read the hell out of articles and I listen to the other podcasters, but never been one for watching YouTubers. Collaborations have been suggested with him in the past, but I've always turned them down based on this stuff. But not all of the other podcasts have.
But I do think a new topic might be warranted for this.
Regarding Aliens Expanded. Obviously I'm biased because I did pledge for $140 for the physical media/shirt, and I did throw our support behind the project based on the pitch I was given that convinced me this wasn't just another Superior Firepower, but an exploration past just the making the film and will be posting about the Cameron announcement once some behind-the-scenes stuff is sorted and I can download the new trailer.
I am disappointed to hear that criticism of the price was deflected with a "true fan" vibe to them, that is never the best approach imo. But the comments about the documentary being released for free are somewhat off base, I feel. This isn't like me trying to get interviews with people. I can't remember if this happened to me or another podcast I spoke to, but fan outlets have been asked to pay for interviews before and it's something that then get turned down.
These guys are a proper studio. Yes, it's not an "official" documentary but outside of the ones on the home releases, none are, but it is a professional setup with actual costs to cover, as well as trying to generate a profit to keep making more of these.
I've yet to see a cut of the documentary (I was too overwhelmed to watch a limited time screener, and I can't make the screening in London) but I'm still hopeful this is a deeper look at Aliens as I was convinced. Hopefully I wont have egg on my face about the whole thing, but we'll be finding out soon.
If AVPGalaxy and Xenopedia are not involved in this then it does feel wrong. Just another nail in the coffin of the written word if you ask me. I dispair that we live in an age where we need an 8 minute youtube video to tell us a single piece of information that could be written in a single sentence.
Honestly my interest in this thing died as soon as I found out Alien Theory was involved.
Nothing I'm hearing since is convincing me to change that standpoint
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If that's possible.
I've thought about it a few times a while back, but you just end up looking like a bitter arsehole. Thought about a lot more since the Hbomberguy video. Unfortunately it means watching hours of Alien Theory reading everyone else's homework and honestly who can be rooted?
Should'a known better
Haven't you reached this point yet?
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I think it's time.
https://www.reddit.com/r/LV426/s/hvgkA2CHuL
Don't worry, I included an AT plagiarism shout-out down in the comments.
Other channels, like Alien Theory, have also engaged in this practice. I've encountered numerous videos from different sources that replicate the same approach. For instance, one channel created two videos about Parker and Brett, utilizing the images and screenshots from my article, and essentially reciting my written content with minimal alterations. While I acknowledge that my old articles, most of which are no longer accessible online, may not be of the highest quality, it's still frustrating to see someone else profit from my research and efforts without proper credit. It's a sentiment shared by many. Other members of AVPGalaxy have experienced similar occurrences.
Apologies for diverging from the main topic with this rant.
People donate money to him for his "content." I attempted to caution some individuals about him and where he plagiarizes most of his "content" from, but the comments were promptly deleted.
They are garbage.
https://i.imgur.com/TfhBCvA.jpeg
Never heard back. The blacklisting continues.
I may have shot myself in the foot by saying it should be really in depth and not just a hagiography (but also they should make the doco they want to make and not do it by popular opinion). I get the feeling they went hagiography. And including Alien Thievery... f**king lol.
That would make it worth the price.
I wonder if anyone ever got around to that.
Nearly anything trying to ride the hype of "Aliens" appears to be f**king cursed.
I saw the same sycophantic "oh my god the greatest film ever made" shit with Colonial Marines.
It comes across as disingenuous nonsense to market a product by preying on the genuine love for it.
I'm also impressed with some of the folks that they got on, but yet, wonder why they have some fans on more than others. I would have loved to see the AvPGalaxy guys on this instead of some other fan sites that haven't been around as long. I also know for a fact that they didn't at all reach out to Stan Winston's old company, now known Legacy Effects, but they got ADI? Not sure the thought process here. So while I'm impressed by some names, I'm scratching my head at some of their decisions on who should be in it.
And I am also in the camp that this should be free. I'm not sure how to articulate it, but it feels like it should be free or on a streaming service to access. Hell, even a digital rental or something (Unless that's there and I've missed it). I know they eventually get these docs on Shudder and possibly Amazon, but that's a ways down the way and it's not guaranteed they'd even get it on a service.
That's all it's been from day one tbh.
Also glad to see there are more legitimate reasons to dislike these guys outside of my petty gripe about how annoying their YouTube advertising tactics are.
All valid questions and concerns that they need to address and be more transparent about.
I know I shouldn't think like this but I kinda feel things like this should be free. It's not often I do take part in kickstarters but one of the few things I did was a Friday 13th Fan Film. I think it was $35 for the bluray and a big part of that was shipping.
It's bizarre because I bought their "In Search of Darkness" trilogy set and it cost under $100 and didn't come with a bunch of random bullshit. Same with their FPS documentary.
I just called them out on discord because the FPS documentary was $50 and the In Search of Darkness trilogy was $120 for all 3, and neither came with posters and other bullshit. If the Aliens one was $40-50 it would be a slam dunk.
Edit, response:
Very much makes me not want to support 'The Thing' documentary (which I was very excited for), or anything else they do for that matter.