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Prey Officially Released Across Streaming Platforms!

After months of anticipation, the new Predator prequel Prey is finally upon us! It’s currently available for people to stream on Hulu in North America and on Disney+ in the UK.

The reception from the press and fans has been extremely positive, many calling it the best Predator film since the original. Prey is currently sitting on 92% Fresh on Rotten Tomatoes – the highest-rated Predator film and third highest in the Alien and Predator franchises (after Alien and Aliens).

 Prey Officially Released Across Streaming Platforms!

Prey is out today across streaming platforms!

Prey is set 300 years ago and tells the story of a young warrior called Naru who defends her Comanche Tribe from a technologically-advanced creature – the Predator. This results in a terrifying showdown between the two adversaries.

Have you watched Prey? Sound off in the Fan Reviews topic or in the comments below and tell us what you thought of the film. Remember, you can also watch the Predator film in the Comanche dub as well.



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  1. PredBabe
    Quote from: overthere on Sep 01, 2022, 10:23:08 PM
    Quote from: exorcissy72 on Sep 01, 2022, 10:19:00 PM
    Quote from: overthere on Sep 01, 2022, 05:09:03 PMThey tell Naru "he killed your whole clan" and she is all smug about it "no, he didn't kill everyone" like saying "f**k my clan, they don't matter"

    That's not at all how she's saying it. She's trying to play a game of intimidation with the French trappers she's saying "not everyone" implying there's more of her tribe out there and referring to herself and Taabe -- she of course didn't know that they had captured Taabe at the same time.

    QuoteI don't see her changing at the end. People changed their opinion on her, but she's the same.

    She definitely changes. At the start of the story she thinks kuhtaamia is all about proving herself, by the end of the film she's learned that it's really about protecting the tribe and her people. She kills Feral and tells her people it's time to leave.


    meh

    I mean, I think the movie is ok, I'm not nitpicking things to hate on it.
    I'm ok with Naru, my main beef is with the Predator not really showing characteristics that I like in my Predators.

    That's one of my bigger gripes too...

    It's nice to see that the film speaks to some fans on a personal level though- granted comments of Prey being better than the first movie (or even movies like Aliens) really has me wondering if it's all just the hype talking.
    But I digress and hope it will age well for me in time.

    I just find it extremely disappointing that it's right at my fingertips for me to watch on Hulu and I don't even have that desire to revisit it for a 3rd time just yet.

    For me it was barebones by way of storytelling. They went back to basics but made it too basic.
    I never really looked at the Predator franchise as your typical slasher movie and yet that's how Prey felt to me as they didn't even bother making any other characters, apart from Naru and Taabe (and sure the doggo too) likable and interesting.

    Instead of having conversations amongst the Comanche tribe revolving around other things that could build more character and a proper feel of the time period this movie is set in (like their beef with the fur trappers or even some shamanism), we consistently see characters talk down Naru instead.

    The French trappers felt even more undercooked for me and I think that was one of the bigger missed opportunities for establishing more unique scenes and dialogue amongst the characters.
    They were displayed as completely goofy barbarians who were somehow able to piece together the predator creature and it's intentions quicker than Dutch's men. Maybe you can argue that they got a glimpse of Feral attacking someone or something, but I think it was a poor decision and lazy writing to not establish more than what was shown.


    That all being said, I am really enjoying people approaching me about Prey that know I've been a fan of this franchise. That has been a joy.
  2. Mr.Turok
    Quote from: DaddyYautja on Sep 01, 2022, 09:44:16 PMI think you are purposely ignoring parts of the post to complain. This Pred is not part of the main plot. The story of this movie is just a girl following her dream.

    Wtf are you talking about, deadass? If the Predator isn't part of the main plot then there would be no conflict. Seriously, now this is some gymnastics levels of coping and seething of someone upset that the lead kills a Predator. You can say this same thing for every Predator film, its just a movie of some guy tricked into doing a CIA mission. It's just a movie of some dude trying to stop a drug war, ect.


    Quote from: DaddyYautja on Sep 01, 2022, 09:44:16 PMIn Pred 1 the pred kills the first team causing the movie to happen. Because of the pred Dutchs team get drawn into the situation.

    Half-True, the team was called in there to do a mission, what was thought to be a rescue mission turns out to be an seek and destroy mission, all manipulated by Dillon and his superiors. If Dutch refused the mission, that wouldn't stop the Predator from hunting the rest of the guerilla camp.

    Quote from: DaddyYautja on Sep 01, 2022, 09:44:16 PMIn 2 the pred decides to get in the middle of a gang war which means the main characters have to get involve which leads to the movie happening.

    False, the drug war was already happening and what could have been a cops vs gangs film became a Predator film with the creature's involvement.

    Quote from: DaddyYautja on Sep 01, 2022, 09:44:16 PMIn Preds the preds pick people up and drop them somewhere else for other preds to hunt. They are the cause of the whole movie.

    Quote from: DaddyYautja on Sep 01, 2022, 09:44:16 PMIn The Pred two preds are fighting causing a crash which has people looking into this leading to the rest of the movie.
    True, this is not even false.


    Quote from: DaddyYautja on Sep 01, 2022, 09:44:16 PMIn Prey the pred is just randomly killing things for half of the movie not doing anything involving the plot until the main character finally goes after him which then FINALLY has the pred take notice. The movie doesn't happen because of the pred the movie happens because of the main character. Again, the first pred movie where the pred isn't spark that leads to the rest of the events. 

    Yeah, its called conflict and character establishment. We see both sides of Naru and Feral observing, stalking, and working things out in the beginning of the film. With Feral testing out the local wildlife, Naru creating new tools to be a more efficient hunter, both Naru and Feral noticing the third player side of the film, the French Trappers, and


    Quote from: DaddyYautja on Sep 01, 2022, 09:44:16 PMNo stronger than him in strength. She overpowers him several times. When the pred had her by the neck and she pushes herself to the rocks, when she uses the spear and pushes his shield arm so far back he cuts his other arm, and when she pulls him into the mud. It's crazy.

    "The neck" that's on Feral for thinking he's got her right where he wants her and not snapping her neck within a second due to his arrogance. Pride is always a poison that can even kill a god.

    "Spear" I covered this with Pred-Nookie that a heavy blow from a spear, especially one with a mace at the end, will never disperse all that kinetic energy behind it, there will always be some force when parring the blow with a shield and she hit it at an angle where it drove the shield back and knocked into it's arm. It would be different if she hit's it dead center where resistance is at it's strongest.

    "Mud Trap" Yeah, I recall that Sarii gave her the tomahawk with the rope at the end where she tied up the legs, then the neck, and then used leverage to pull him into the mud. If you know anything about levers and pulleys is that it can help work with weight that one cannot do with their hands by themselves.


    Quote from: DaddyYautja on Sep 01, 2022, 09:44:16 PMThis Preds weakness is that he constantly walks into traps even when he knows they are there, his thermal vision randomly works, he can't use his weapons, this is the worst showing of a pred in film. It's hardly exploiting when there are so many.

    Nothing in the scene shows that he knew about the traps. Hell, he didn't even know about the Frenchmen hiding under cover to trap him, so how in the hell can he see cold metal? He only knew about the trap Naru had as it was directly on her leg. His weapons are fine, simply that like with any weapon, it has flaws and weaknesses and they are simply exploited.

    Quote from: DaddyYautja on Sep 01, 2022, 09:44:16 PMI'll give you unique but it sure as hell not interesting. Who wants to see a movie about a dumb predator? They are supposed to be high level hunters, who wants to see a pred get constantly beat up by the main characters when his not doing dumb stuff?
    Let me tell you a quick summary of a old story that relates to this, one that even Dan took inspiration from, its called David vs Goliath:

    QuoteA great Philistine giant named Goliath, that stood at over nine feet tall, came to the front of the Philistine battle line each day for forty days and mocked the Israelites and their God. Goliath called to them to fight, but King Saul and the Israelites were scared and did nothing.

    David was sent by his dad Jesse to visit the front lines and bring back battle news from his brothers. David heard Goliath mocking Israel and their God. David was brave and volunteered to fight Goliath. He persuaded King Saul to let him go fight and decided not to wear any of King Saul's armor. David carried his sling and gathered five smooth stones. Goliath laughed at David, but David responded that even though Goliath had a sword and spear, he came in the name of the Lord Almighty, the God of Israel. David put a rock in his sling and swung one of the rocks at Goliath's head. The rock sank into the giant's forehead, and he fell. David then picked up Goliath's sword and used it to kill Goliath and cut off his head.

    Huh.....why does this sound familiar.....sounds like beats from a film we are talking about? Seems like the theme of enemies who think they are almighty and arrogant will see themselves fall hard to opponents they underestimate? The behind the scenes even explained that Feral is a hot blooded Young Blood who also is out there proving himself to be a strong hunter. A counterpart to Naru who while also wants to be a hunter, is always humbled and learns from the experience of her failures to succeed in the next battle. The concept of this enemy architype is nothing new and it's old as time. Nothing is wrong with this trope and the theme the Predator is fulfilling. 


    Quote from: DaddyYautja on Sep 01, 2022, 09:44:16 PMThey are there because of her, they went to go pick her up because of her nonsense. The pred is drawn to them because of her, he took an interest in her and started tracking her. This is her fault on every level, she created this situation.

    She kept warning them of the danger and they ignored her so she went to settle the matter herself. If they simply went with her to check out a possible threat to the tribe, then perhaps they could have worked together to face this threat. Show them the body of the bear and then they will think things differently. This was all due to their negligence on heeding her waring and they paid the price for it.

    Quote from: DaddyYautja on Sep 01, 2022, 09:44:16 PMWhy? he was kicking the Preds butt so hard the pred had to regroup? why does he suddenly give up? He just stopped.
    As I said to Nookie before: Combat pragmatism. Feral's new opponent is good, so he decides to play the stealth kill card using his cloak as the trump card. People throw dirt in the eyes, use the environment to their advantage, go for the "cheap shot" in any combat life and death situation. Taabe saw this and knew that eventually Feral will get to him due to his cloaking, you can't hit what you can't see. He gave her sister a fighting chance to live, something that any family with love in their group will do for one another. This is nothing new or bad, it's all in the line.

    Quote from: DaddyYautja on Sep 01, 2022, 09:44:16 PMThe problem with this is that she wanted the pred for the second she saw his track. She wants the pred so bad that she annoyed her brother and mother and decided to go hunting alone. I don't think the brother dying change anything in the story. Plus the brother was kicking the Preds ass so it's not like the pred did this to mock the main character.

    Again, they fail to at least check out what the fuss is all about. Their fault for failing to investigating a new threat to the tribe. Especially the warriors escalated further when they started to beat her down, you lost the argument at that point. They didn't even consider at least working together to find Taabe, strength in numbers after all but they had to tell her what to do. This falls on them.


    Quote from: Crazy Rich on Sep 01, 2022, 11:43:46 PMReally goes to show that how one expresses themselves in a certain scenario isn't always black and white and the people who don't get that have a lot to learn.
    Let's not forget that there is already a scene with Naru and her mother grieving about the loss, one washing herself of blood with hands shaking and the other breaking down while trying to do a work chore.
  3. Crazy Rich
    Quote from: Mike's Monsters on Sep 01, 2022, 11:36:27 PM
    Quote from: Prez on Sep 01, 2022, 11:33:43 PM
    Quote from: Mike's Monsters on Sep 01, 2022, 11:24:11 PM
    Quote from: Crazy Rich on Sep 01, 2022, 11:01:41 PM
    Quote from: Mike's Monsters on Sep 01, 2022, 10:07:28 PMMy new favorite is now that people need to grieve a certain way. Try being told someone you love dies while you are part of a system that won't work well if you need to take the time to grieve. Her mother smacking the hide after Taabe's news is very relatable having been on productions when finding out I've lost a loved one. No time to stop or else the show won't go on, so you have to suck it up and cry later. God damn, I didn't know people had to emote in exact ways for people to realize what's going on.

    Imagine if someone told you in your darkest hour in real life that you're emotions are the wrong kind and you should be sadder, angrier, or you're showing too much. That's what it feels like I'm reading here. Being told to emote a certain way is such a weird take.

    It baffles me too but also at the same time reminds me, especially as someone with autism, that things like  behaviour and social skills are in fact skills and not something that comes as "naturally" to everyone as some might think.

    Pardon me while I restrain myself from saying
    Spoiler
    "skill issue".
    [close]

    Very, very good point.

    I know a few people who smile and laugh when faced with grief or confronting bad news. It's their way. It's not wrong - it's just the way they deal with overwhelming and strong (sad) emotions.

    I laughed when I lost my job shortly after my mom dying, so definitely a thing. It was a "how can this get any worse, and someone has to be f**king with me" kind of laugh. Just craziness because I was overwhelmed.

    Really goes to show that how one expresses themselves in a certain scenario isn't always black and white and the people who don't get that have a lot to learn.
  4. Mike’s Monsters
    Quote from: Prez on Sep 01, 2022, 11:33:43 PM
    Quote from: Mike's Monsters on Sep 01, 2022, 11:24:11 PM
    Quote from: Crazy Rich on Sep 01, 2022, 11:01:41 PM
    Quote from: Mike's Monsters on Sep 01, 2022, 10:07:28 PMMy new favorite is now that people need to grieve a certain way. Try being told someone you love dies while you are part of a system that won't work well if you need to take the time to grieve. Her mother smacking the hide after Taabe's news is very relatable having been on productions when finding out I've lost a loved one. No time to stop or else the show won't go on, so you have to suck it up and cry later. God damn, I didn't know people had to emote in exact ways for people to realize what's going on.

    Imagine if someone told you in your darkest hour in real life that you're emotions are the wrong kind and you should be sadder, angrier, or you're showing too much. That's what it feels like I'm reading here. Being told to emote a certain way is such a weird take.

    It baffles me too but also at the same time reminds me, especially as someone with autism, that things like  behaviour and social skills are in fact skills and not something that comes as "naturally" to everyone as some might think.

    Pardon me while I restrain myself from saying
    Spoiler
    "skill issue".
    [close]

    Very, very good point.

    I know a few people who smile and laugh when faced with grief or confronting bad news. It's their way. It's not wrong - it's just the way they deal with overwhelming and strong (sad) emotions.

    I laughed when I lost my job shortly after my mom dying, so definitely a thing. It was a "how can this get any worse, and someone has to be f**king with me" kind of laugh. Just craziness because I was overwhelmed.
  5. SiL
    Quote from: overthere on Sep 01, 2022, 09:34:08 PM
    Quote from: SiL on Sep 01, 2022, 08:44:34 PMShe's also referring to Taabe when she says not everyone.

    What do you wanted her to say?

    "It killed your whole clan"
    "Yes you're totally right I am now completely alone and defenceless; nobody can possibly come to save me and I am at your mercy."

    That's moronic.


    She could have not said anything
    She's being defiant and trying to intimidate the trappers by telling them there are more people out there coming for them.

  6. Prez
    Quote from: Mike's Monsters on Sep 01, 2022, 11:24:11 PM
    Quote from: Crazy Rich on Sep 01, 2022, 11:01:41 PM
    Quote from: Mike's Monsters on Sep 01, 2022, 10:07:28 PMMy new favorite is now that people need to grieve a certain way. Try being told someone you love dies while you are part of a system that won't work well if you need to take the time to grieve. Her mother smacking the hide after Taabe's news is very relatable having been on productions when finding out I've lost a loved one. No time to stop or else the show won't go on, so you have to suck it up and cry later. God damn, I didn't know people had to emote in exact ways for people to realize what's going on.

    Imagine if someone told you in your darkest hour in real life that you're emotions are the wrong kind and you should be sadder, angrier, or you're showing too much. That's what it feels like I'm reading here. Being told to emote a certain way is such a weird take.

    It baffles me too but also at the same time reminds me, especially as someone with autism, that things like  behaviour and social skills are in fact skills and not something that comes as "naturally" to everyone as some might think.

    Pardon me while I restrain myself from saying
    Spoiler
    "skill issue".
    [close]

    Very, very good point.

    I know a few people who smile and laugh when faced with grief or confronting bad news. It's their way. It's not wrong - it's just the way they deal with overwhelming and strong (sad) emotions.
  7. Mike’s Monsters
    Quote from: Crazy Rich on Sep 01, 2022, 11:01:41 PM
    Quote from: Mike's Monsters on Sep 01, 2022, 10:07:28 PMMy new favorite is now that people need to grieve a certain way. Try being told someone you love dies while you are part of a system that won't work well if you need to take the time to grieve. Her mother smacking the hide after Taabe's news is very relatable having been on productions when finding out I've lost a loved one. No time to stop or else the show won't go on, so you have to suck it up and cry later. God damn, I didn't know people had to emote in exact ways for people to realize what's going on.

    Imagine if someone told you in your darkest hour in real life that you're emotions are the wrong kind and you should be sadder, angrier, or you're showing too much. That's what it feels like I'm reading here. Being told to emote a certain way is such a weird take.

    It baffles me too but also at the same time reminds me, especially as someone with autism, that things like  behaviour and social skills are in fact skills and not something that comes as "naturally" to everyone as some might think.

    Pardon me while I restrain myself from saying
    Spoiler
    "skill issue".
    [close]

    Very, very good point.
  8. Crazy Rich
    Quote from: Mike's Monsters on Sep 01, 2022, 10:07:28 PMMy new favorite is now that people need to grieve a certain way. Try being told someone you love dies while you are part of a system that won't work well if you need to take the time to grieve. Her mother smacking the hide after Taabe's news is very relatable having been on productions when finding out I've lost a loved one. No time to stop or else the show won't go on, so you have to suck it up and cry later. God damn, I didn't know people had to emote in exact ways for people to realize what's going on.

    Imagine if someone told you in your darkest hour in real life that you're emotions are the wrong kind and you should be sadder, angrier, or you're showing too much. That's what it feels like I'm reading here. Being told to emote a certain way is such a weird take.

    It baffles me too but also at the same time reminds me, especially as someone with autism, that things like  behaviour and social skills are in fact skills and not something that comes as "naturally" to everyone as some might think.

    Pardon me while I restrain myself from saying
    Spoiler
    "skill issue".
    [close]
  9. overthere
    Quote from: exorcissy72 on Sep 01, 2022, 10:19:00 PM
    Quote from: overthere on Sep 01, 2022, 05:09:03 PMThey tell Naru "he killed your whole clan" and she is all smug about it "no, he didn't kill everyone" like saying "f**k my clan, they don't matter"

    That's not at all how she's saying it. She's trying to play a game of intimidation with the French trappers she's saying "not everyone" implying there's more of her tribe out there and referring to herself and Taabe -- she of course didn't know that they had captured Taabe at the same time.

    QuoteI don't see her changing at the end. People changed their opinion on her, but she's the same.

    She definitely changes. At the start of the story she thinks kuhtaamia is all about proving herself, by the end of the film she's learned that it's really about protecting the tribe and her people. She kills Feral and tells her people it's time to leave.


    meh

    I mean, I think the movie is ok, I'm not nitpicking things to hate on it.
    I'm ok with Naru, my main beef is with the Predator not really showing characteristics that I like in my Predators.
  10. exorcissy72
    Quote from: overthere on Sep 01, 2022, 05:09:03 PMThey tell Naru "he killed your whole clan" and she is all smug about it "no, he didn't kill everyone" like saying "f**k my clan, they don't matter"

    That's not at all how she's saying it. She's trying to play a game of intimidation with the French trappers she's saying "not everyone" implying there's more of her tribe out there and referring to herself and Taabe -- she of course didn't know that they had captured Taabe at the same time.

    QuoteI don't see her changing at the end. People changed their opinion on her, but she's the same.

    She definitely changes. At the start of the story she thinks kuhtaamia is all about proving herself, by the end of the film she's learned that it's really about protecting the tribe and her people. She kills Feral and tells her people it's time to leave.
  11. Mike’s Monsters
    My new favorite is now that people need to grieve a certain way. Try being told someone you love dies while you are part of a system that won't work well if you need to take the time to grieve. Her mother smacking the hide after Taabe's news is very relatable having been on productions when finding out I've lost a loved one. No time to stop or else the show won't go on, so you have to suck it up and cry later. God damn, I didn't know people had to emote in exact ways for people to realize what's going on.

    Imagine if someone told you in your darkest hour in real life that you're emotions are the wrong kind and you should be sadder, angrier, or you're showing too much. That's what it feels like I'm reading here. Being told to emote a certain way is such a weird take.
  12. Master
    Finally! Some good 'ol AvP discussion! Thing is Naru is abit bratty and jealous but on the other hand she's brave and likable. I'm not convinced in the way final battle was portrayed and think whole setup was too contrived. Presonaly I'd love if Predator  just drowned in the swamp. Pure and simple way to show why sometimes it's better to be light and agile instead of heavy brute Fearl is.
  13. DaddyYautja
    Quote from: Mr.Turok on Sep 01, 2022, 03:52:49 PMTaabe is just that good at dodging arrows? I mean they are Comanche, a tribe of warriors that get into warfare with other tribes, this is not surprising one bit that he can do that. Also he was the one that disrupted Feral's aiming at Sarii at the last moment.

    It's surprising that this top hunter keeps missing with the same weapon and never adjusts. How many times does he needs to shoot to learn he can't use the gun without the helmet? why doesn't he knows this from the start?

    Quote"Shows up and starts killing things" Every single Predator movie ever....... I mean they showed Feral doing stalking and tracking, which other films don't go into that much. Feral observing blood trails, footprints, and other signs of prey. Come on, the more I read your post, the more I think you are purposely ignoring parts of the film to complain.

    I think you are purposely ignoring parts of the post to complain. This Pred is not part of the main plot. The story of this movie is just a girl following her dream.

    In Pred 1 the pred kills the first team causing the movie to happen. Because of the pred Dutchs team get drawn into the situation.

    In 2 the pred decides to get in the middle of a gang war which means the main characters have to get involve which leads to the movie happening.

    In Preds the preds pick people up and drop them somewhere else for other preds to hunt. They are the cause of the whole movie.

    In The Pred two preds are fighting causing a crash which has people looking into this leading to the rest of the movie.

    In Prey the pred is just randomly killing things for half of the movie not doing anything involving the plot until the main character finally goes after him which then FINALLY has the pred take notice. The movie doesn't happen because of the pred the movie happens because of the main character. Again, the first pred movie where the pred isn't spark that leads to the rest of the events. 

    QuoteStronger than him in smarts?

    No stronger than him in strength. She overpowers him several times. When the pred had her by the neck and she pushes herself to the rocks, when she uses the spear and pushes his shield arm so far back he cuts his other arm, and when she pulls him into the mud. It's crazy.

    QuoteThat's Feral's downfall, the flaw of the monster like in any creature film is to exploit weaknesses and turn it against them. He's a strong, agile, fast, and highly skilled brute with advanced technology thinking that he can steamroll everyone but learns the hard way that's just something you can't do with everything.

    This Preds weakness is that he constantly walks into traps even when he knows they are there, his thermal vision randomly works, he can't use his weapons, this is the worst showing of a pred in film. It's hardly exploiting when there are so many.

    QuotePredators just can't be copy and paste versions of the last Predator, gotta be interesting and unique to have something fresh going on and this Predator really stands out in that department. Less bulkier then the Predator trio from AVP, but just as strong. A young blood like CH but more brutal and ferocious. It's an interesting dynamic compared to his opposite Naru who is a level headed and calculating upcoming hunter who is adapting to every situation she is in. The blue to the red, light and shadow. I mean for cripes sake, Feral's coloring is red/black and Naru's outfit color is tan/blue, its super obvious to what they were doing here.

    I'll give you unique but it sure as hell not interesting. Who wants to see a movie about a dumb predator? They are supposed to be high level hunters, who wants to see a pred get constantly beat up by the main characters when his not doing dumb stuff?

    QuoteThose four warriors didn't head her warning so it's their fault, not her's.

    They are there because of her, they went to go pick her up because of her nonsense. The pred is drawn to them because of her, he took an interest in her and started tracking her. This is her fault on every level, she created this situation.


     
    QuoteHer brother purposely gave his life for her to finish the job, knowing full well that he trusts that she can kill it.

    Why? he was kicking the Preds butt so hard the pred had to regroup? why does he suddenly give up? He just stopped.

    QuoteAction films with male leads have similar tropes of the female love interest either in the beginning of the film or in the middle, to be dead or be killed to give the male character more motivation to do something. This is just the gender swapped version and it makes sense giving to the fact that he's giving her time to escape and find a way to kill it, as any brave warrior/sibling would do for a loved family member.

    Just more excuses to purposely hate the film I see.

    The problem with this is that she wanted the pred for the second she saw his track. She wants the pred so bad that she annoyed her brother and mother and decided to go hunting alone. I don't think the brother dying change anything in the story. Plus the brother was kicking the Preds ass so it's not like the pred did this to mock the main character.

    Quote from: SiL on Sep 01, 2022, 08:44:34 PMShe's also referring to Taabe when she says not everyone.

    What do you wanted her to say?

    "It killed your whole clan"
    "Yes you're totally right I am now completely alone and defenceless; nobody can possibly come to save me and I am at your mercy."

    That's moronic.


    Wait... You think is smart to reveal that there is some one else that can get more people to save her? To tell her captors to go out and look for more people?

    Im sorry but no, that's not smart at all.

  14. Cosmic Incubation
    Quote from: overthere on Sep 01, 2022, 08:35:43 PM
    Quote from: Cosmic Incubation on Sep 01, 2022, 05:22:50 PMIt's pretty clear that it's meant to point out how it excludes her from the clan in both a way that comments on how nobody takes her seriously or perceives her as a threat.

    Exactly, and she had to make a point about it. That's being petty.
    She needs everyone to know she's worthy and just as capable, even when locked in a cage after a monster killed members of her tribe. She's obviously not phased enough if she still insists on those things.

    I mean I guess that's your interpretation, but it seems pretty cynical. I don't think she's the boastful character that has to announce things to everyone that you seem to think she is. She's not trying to be like "look at me everyone! I survived!". Again, it seems more like a personal assurance to herself rather than her trying to make some type of statement to everyone.



    Quote from: overthere on Sep 01, 2022, 08:35:43 PMSoon after she no longer thinks about it. You can say she's hiding emotion based on your own personal experience, but I don't think this movie is that deep. I think she doesn't give a damn about any of her fellow tribesmen, except her brother.
    But even with him she's jealous he's the one who killed the lion and stuff like that.

    And her mother just slapped the carpet a bit. It's all a quick scene of what an emotional reaction should be, but it doesn't leave a lasting impression. It's like a dog being pissed at a cat, but as soon as its out of sight, he carries on as if nothing pissed him off a moment ago.

    I don't think she was jealous in a way where she had any resentment towards her brother about the lion. She seemed disappointed in herself if anything, and she didn't even focus on the lion at all after he got made warchief. She went straight to "there's still something out there that we need to handle".

    "Her mother just slapped the carpet a bit" seems like a major downplay of that scene. It's hard for me, and friends I know who've watched it, to not get choked up during that scene. I think it's a pretty heart wrenching scene and has a lot of weight to it. It shows a mother who's grieving for her child, but can't just stop and not do her responsibilities that she has to her tribe in this unfair and demanding world. It seemed very grounded and real to me, in that a lot of the time when people are grieving, the world doesn't care and they still have to just grit and carry on with their responsibilities, whether because they HAVE to, or to just try and help keep their mind off the pain. I've personally dealt with that in my life in this modern age, and I'm sure it was even more common back then when life was much harder.
  15. SiL
    She's also referring to Taabe when she says not everyone.

    What do you wanted her to say?

    "It killed your whole clan"
    "Yes you're totally right I am now completely alone and defenceless; nobody can possibly come to save me and I am at your mercy."

    That's moronic.
  16. overthere
    Quote from: Cosmic Incubation on Sep 01, 2022, 05:22:50 PMIt's pretty clear that it's meant to point out how it excludes her from the clan in both a way that comments on how nobody takes her seriously or perceives her as a threat.

    Exactly, and she had to make a point about it. That's being petty.
    She needs everyone to know she's worthy and just as capable, even when locked in a cage after a monster killed members of her tribe. She's obviously not phased enough if she still insists on those things.


    Quote from: Mike's Monsters on Sep 01, 2022, 05:19:36 PMI'm just curious if people here aren't able to read emotions? She clearly after each person dies around her shows a "oh shit holy f**k" face. After the bear. After the log scene she has rage in her eyes before running to the field. She has a full mental breakdown when Taabe dies, and we see her mother do the same.


    To say she wasn't showing anything is naively false and I think those who say this really need to watch the movie again and pay attention to the characters. And I'd even say ignore gender to some too.

    She does have a "holy shit" face, but not in a sense of "holy shit John died", it's more like "holy shit this is crazy"

    Soon after she no longer thinks about it. You can say she's hiding emotion based on your own personal experience, but I don't think this movie is that deep. I think she doesn't give a damn about any of her fellow tribesmen, except her brother.
    But even with him she's jealous he's the one who killed the lion and stuff like that.

    And her mother just slapped the carpet a bit. It's all a quick scene of what an emotional reaction should be, but it doesn't leave a lasting impression. It's like a dog being pissed at a cat, but as soon as its out of sight, he carries on as if nothing pissed him off a moment ago.
  17. BlueMarsalis79
    Quote from: Mike's Monsters on Sep 01, 2022, 05:32:30 PM
    Quote from: Cosmic Incubation on Sep 01, 2022, 05:22:50 PMI can see how your argument is maybe based in that she always had confidence in herself and her abilities both at the beginning and end of the film. But actually expanding and using those abilities to overcome obstacles over the course of the story IS part of character growth.


    Reminds me of some confident characters that are constantly pushed back against even if they know the greater truth. Characters like Ripley, or Sarah Conner come to mind immediately. Especially in ALIENS and T2. Even with fear; they still run at the danger when put in the right situation. They took charge. Like Naru did. "If they can't see it, show them."


    On subsequent viewings that line makes me downright emotional honestly, and the score that follows it. The only other film in either franchise to do that's Alien³ frankly.
  18. Cosmic Incubation
    Quote from: Mike's Monsters on Sep 01, 2022, 05:32:30 PM
    Quote from: Cosmic Incubation on Sep 01, 2022, 05:22:50 PMI can see how your argument is maybe based in that she always had confidence in herself and her abilities both at the beginning and end of the film. But actually expanding and using those abilities to overcome obstacles over the course of the story IS part of character growth.


    Reminds me of some confident characters that are constantly pushed back against even if they know the greater truth. Characters like Ripley, or Sarah Conner come to mind immediately. Especially in ALIENS and T2. Even with fear; they still run at the danger when put in the right situation. They took charge. Like Naru did. "If they can't see it, show them."

    Totally! Great point and examples.
  19. Mike’s Monsters
    Quote from: Cosmic Incubation on Sep 01, 2022, 05:22:50 PMI can see how your argument is maybe based in that she always had confidence in herself and her abilities both at the beginning and end of the film. But actually expanding and using those abilities to overcome obstacles over the course of the story IS part of character growth.


    Reminds me of some confident characters that are constantly pushed back against even if they know the greater truth. Characters like Ripley, or Sarah Conner come to mind immediately. Especially in ALIENS and T2. Even with fear; they still run at the danger when put in the right situation. They took charge. Like Naru did. "If they can't see it, show them."
  20. Cosmic Incubation
    Quote from: overthere on Sep 01, 2022, 05:09:03 PMThey tell Naru "he killed your whole clan" and she is all smug about it "no, he didn't kill everyone" like saying "f**k my clan, they don't matter"

    How is that your takeaway of that line? It's pretty clear that it's meant to point out how it excludes her from the clan in both a way that comments on how nobody takes her seriously or perceives her as a threat. I also took it as a reassuring statement to herself and begrudging statement towards the Predator. Both relieved that she survived, and like saying "that bastard didn't get me, but I will make sure I get him".

    Quote from: overthere on Sep 01, 2022, 05:09:03 PMI don't see her changing at the end. People changed their opinion on her, but she's the same.

    Idk how you can see her go from failing to kill a deer and a lion, to killing a full blown Predator to avenge her brother and clan, and say that she hadn't changed. I can see how your argument is maybe based in that she always had confidence in herself and her abilities both at the beginning and end of the film. But actually expanding and using those abilities to overcome obstacles over the course of the story IS part of character growth.
  21. Mike’s Monsters
    Quote from: overthere on Sep 01, 2022, 05:09:03 PM
    Quote from: Mike's Monsters on Sep 01, 2022, 04:56:45 PM
    Quote from: overthere on Sep 01, 2022, 04:45:11 PM
    Quote from: Immortan Jonesy on Sep 01, 2022, 12:30:32 AM
    Quote from: Preddie-nokas on Aug 30, 2022, 08:23:09 PMNaru is same all the time, no emotions, no character growth, empty shell.

    She's definitely not the same at the end of the movie.

    At the beginning
    https://i.ibb.co/jfHFxgX/Pics-Art-08-31-08-17-25.jpg
    At the end
    https://i.ibb.co/h8SpxV9/Pics-Art-08-31-08-18-06.jpg

    Completely unrelated pictures.

    We can't point out that Naru changes like Dutch did a few posts back? This is in relation to that. It paints it quite clearly too. Very selective in what is allowed and what isn't. Very.

    They tell Naru "he killed your whole clan" and she is all smug about it "no, he didn't kill everyone" like saying "f**k my clan, they don't matter"

    I don't see her changing at the end. People changed their opinion on her, but she's the same.

    That's not how I read it. She was pissed at being captured by some assholes. So she was an asshole back and didn't want to give them what she knew, why would they deserve it if they put her in a box? I wouldn't give that info is someone put me in a position like that.

    I'm just curious if people here aren't able to read emotions? She clearly after each person dies around her shows a "oh shit holy f**k" face. After the bear. After the log scene she has rage in her eyes before running to the field. She has a full mental breakdown when Taabe dies, and we see her mother do the same.

    That rage of loss of a love one will change you. Will even hide your emotions. Not to make it too personal, but when I lost my mother to cancer in 2016 I became a very emotionless shell of myself. Mean, but emotionless in my expressions. She reminded me of my emotions when setting up the trap for Feral at the end while talking to the kidnapped trapper.

    To say she wasn't showing anything is naively false and I think those who say this really need to watch the movie again and pay attention to the characters. And I'd even say ignore gender to some too.
  22. overthere
    Quote from: Mike's Monsters on Sep 01, 2022, 04:56:45 PM
    Quote from: overthere on Sep 01, 2022, 04:45:11 PM
    Quote from: Immortan Jonesy on Sep 01, 2022, 12:30:32 AM
    Quote from: Preddie-nokas on Aug 30, 2022, 08:23:09 PMNaru is same all the time, no emotions, no character growth, empty shell.

    She's definitely not the same at the end of the movie.

    At the beginning
    https://i.ibb.co/jfHFxgX/Pics-Art-08-31-08-17-25.jpg
    At the end
    https://i.ibb.co/h8SpxV9/Pics-Art-08-31-08-18-06.jpg

    Completely unrelated pictures.

    We can't point out that Naru changes like Dutch did a few posts back? This is in relation to that. It paints it quite clearly too. Very selective in what is allowed and what isn't. Very.

    They tell Naru "he killed your whole clan" and she is all smug about it "no, he didn't kill everyone" like saying "f**k my clan, they don't matter"

    I don't see her changing at the end. People changed their opinion on her, but she's the same.
  23. Mike’s Monsters
    Quote from: overthere on Sep 01, 2022, 04:45:11 PM
    Quote from: Immortan Jonesy on Sep 01, 2022, 12:30:32 AM
    Quote from: Preddie-nokas on Aug 30, 2022, 08:23:09 PMNaru is same all the time, no emotions, no character growth, empty shell.

    She's definitely not the same at the end of the movie.

    At the beginning
    https://i.ibb.co/jfHFxgX/Pics-Art-08-31-08-17-25.jpg
    At the end
    https://i.ibb.co/h8SpxV9/Pics-Art-08-31-08-18-06.jpg

    Completely unrelated pictures.

    We can't point out that Naru changes like Dutch did a few posts back? This is in relation to that. It paints it quite clearly too. Very selective in what is allowed and what isn't. Very.
  24. Mr.Turok
    Quote from: DaddyYautja on Sep 01, 2022, 06:00:07 AMThis dude shoots it four times and misses four times. The dude misses a stationary dog right in front of him, so either this gun cannot work without the helmet or this dude cannot shoot at all.

    Taabe is just that good at dodging arrows? I mean they are Comanche, a tribe of warriors that get into warfare with other tribes, this is not surprising one bit that he can do that. Also he was the one that disrupted Feral's aiming at Sarii at the last moment.

    Quote from: DaddyYautja on Sep 01, 2022, 06:00:07 AMPrey is just a slasher flick. I doesn't play out like a Pred film at all. we just follow this girl through the flick repeatedly escaping death and at the end she kills the hulking thing that took out everybody.

    This is the first pred film where the pred Is not the reason for the plot. He just shows up and starts killing things. He has nothing to do with the main story at all. He even shows horrible skills, gets beat up by the main characters, one being a small woman that is somehow stronger than him.

    "Shows up and starts killing things" Every single Predator movie ever....... I mean they showed Feral doing stalking and tracking, which other films don't go into that much. Feral observing blood trails, footprints, and other signs of prey. Come on, the more I read your post, the more I think you are purposely ignoring parts of the film to complain.

    Stronger than him in smarts? That's Feral's downfall, the flaw of the monster like in any creature film is to exploit weaknesses and turn it against them. He's a strong, agile, fast, and highly skilled brute with advanced technology thinking that he can steamroll everyone but learns the hard way that's just something you can't do with everything. Predators just can't be copy and paste versions of the last Predator, gotta be interesting and unique to have something fresh going on and this Predator really stands out in that department. Less bulkier then the Predator trio from AVP, but just as strong. A young blood like CH but more brutal and ferocious. It's an interesting dynamic compared to his opposite Naru who is a level headed and calculating upcoming hunter who is adapting to every situation she is in. The blue to the red, light and shadow. I mean for cripes sake, Feral's coloring is red/black and Naru's outfit color is tan/blue, its super obvious to what they were doing here.

    Quote from: DaddyYautja on Sep 01, 2022, 06:00:07 AMShe's dreaming of being a hunter.
    She doesn't do her root picking because she rather be hunting.
    And yay she becomes a hunter by getting 5 people killed including her brother. Great success.

    Those four warriors didn't head her warning so it's their fault, not her's. Her brother purposely gave his life for her to finish the job, knowing full well that he trusts that she can kill it. Action films with male leads have similar tropes of the female love interest either in the beginning of the film or in the middle, to be dead or be killed to give the male character more motivation to do something. This is just the gender swapped version and it makes sense giving to the fact that he's giving her time to escape and find a way to kill it, as any brave warrior/sibling would do for a loved family member.

    Just more excuses to purposely hate the film I see.
  25. Komenja
    Quote from: DaddyYautja on Sep 01, 2022, 06:00:07 AMThis dude shoots it four times and misses four times. The dude misses a stationary dog right in front of him, so either this gun cannot work without the helmet or this dude cannot shoot at all.

    Both choices are bad.

    We know the gun works with the helmet because that was shown. So if he needs the helmet to hit targets why is he using it without it? four times...

    I think the weapon can reliably kill without the helmet, so long as the user is close enough to their target. He would've hit Taabe if Taabe hadn't dodged every shot; you can see Taabe lean out of their way while on horseback. And he would've hit Naru if he was just a little bit closer to her. The dog, though... yeah. I'd say his aim was off because he just got smacked in the head and he's still reeling from it, but in the shot where he shoots he's standing perfectly still. That miss is all on him.

    QuoteApparently thermal vision works based on the heat sources so the colors adjust based on the temperatures it sees. So you can say that the fire next to her was so hot and her body was so cold that she would basically disappear because the difference in her temp and the ambient temp was very little. So the shades would closely match.

    Makes sense, I could buy that. Reminds me of how flares and other fire/heat sources would glare and obscure your heat vision when you looked at them in AvP 1999.

    QuoteIgnoring all the body issues of cooling your body from the inside, the real issue was that she moved. Pred can't see you when you match the ambient temp and stay still but they can notice movement. So the pred would have notice her moving. And on top of that she took the flower seconds from the pred appearing and he seemed to be walking so he wasn't that far away. He should've clearly seen her disappear.

    That whole scene was a mess.
    Yeah, I think it would've worked better if she remained in cover until Feral arrived and moved past her, and then standing up and making her move while he's busy with the corpse.

    QuoteWhen you select prey you can scroll down and there should be other suggestion and that should appear.

    Sweet, thanks!
  26. DaddyYautja
    Quote from: Komenja on Aug 30, 2022, 05:18:45 PMI don't really agree with the notions that he doesn't behave like a Predator, or that he's too stupid to know how his weapon works. His spear gun can absolutely be dumb-fired without the helmet; it flies straight for a short period before it starts homing for the marked target. If Taabe hadn't been a fast moving target on horseback, and if Feral had been closer to Naru in their final battle, I believe the spears would've hit them before they started homing. Feral's downfall was not knowing Naru had hidden his helmet and maneuvered him into it's sights. You can see him realize this right before the spear nails him in the back of the head. He even starts to vocalize, as if to say "Oh, shit!" I personally think it's similar to how Dutch tricked Jungle Hunter in the original film, and maybe even an intentional callback to that moment.

    This dude shoots it four times and misses four times. The dude misses a stationary dog right in front of him, so either this gun cannot work without the helmet or this dude cannot shoot at all.

    Both choices are bad.

    We know the gun works with the helmet because that was shown. So if he needs the helmet to hit targets why is he using it without it? four times...

    QuoteOne thing that does bug me, though, regarding the flower. When Feral is stalking through the camp, he mistakes Raphael for being dead since his blood has gone cold. But, Feral's helmet still picks up the body, with text and a line directly pointing to it out. He is fully aware that the body is there, he just thinks  he's dead. But then, when Naru takes the flower, she becomes completely invisible to Feral as he walks right past her. He should've noticed the cold body that was somehow still standing.

    Apparently thermal vision works based on the heat sources so the colors adjust based on the temperatures it sees. So you can say that the fire next to her was so hot and her body was so cold that she would basically disappear because the difference in her temp and the ambient temp was very little. So the shades would closely match.

    Ignoring all the body issues of cooling your body from the inside, the real issue was that she moved. Pred can't see you when you match the ambient temp and stay still but they can notice movement. So the pred would have notice her moving. And on top of that she took the flower seconds from the pred appearing and he seemed to be walking so he wasn't that far away. He should've clearly seen her disappear.

    That whole scene was a mess.


    QuoteOh, two more things: First, I heard there was a full Comanche dub, but I don't see an option for that on Hulu. How does one watch that version?

    When you select prey you can scroll down and there should be other suggestion and that should appear.

    Quote from: Cosmic Incubation on Aug 30, 2022, 09:09:28 PMNo offense but anyone that would argue that Prey is worse than Shane Black's The Predator is either being disingenuous or seriously needs to re-evaluate what a decent movie is.

    I don't think this is the best film I've ever seen or anything, I do think there are some fair criticisms and faults, but even arguing that this is like a god-awful terrible film or isn't at least a competently made film seems pretty dishonest/misguided to me.

    Genuinely not trying to insult anybody or start any fires or anything, but that's just how I feel about a lot of the more scathing and 1 or 1/2 star reviews I've seen.

    The Pred was a good core with bad concepts added on top. The Pred is basically AVP:R, two aliens fighting each other that cause a crash landing and then they continue the fight on the planet. And this film is so chopped up we don't even know how it was playing out originally.

    The cyborg pred is a good idea for the evolution of this hunter. Instead of wearing the equipment he has some of it inside. I'm interested in learning more about this process. This is the first time I have been interested in learning more about the Preds since 2.


    Prey is just a slasher flick. I doesn't play out like a Pred film at all. we just follow this girl through the flick repeatedly escaping death and at the end she kills the hulking thing that took out everybody.

    This is the first pred film where the pred Is not the reason for the plot. He just shows up and starts killing things. He has nothing to do with the main story at all. He even shows horrible skills, gets beat up by the main characters, one being a small woman that is somehow stronger than him.


    Quote from: Immortan Jonesy on Sep 01, 2022, 12:30:32 AM
    Quote from: Preddie-nokas on Aug 30, 2022, 08:23:09 PMNaru is same all the time, no emotions, no character growth, empty shell.

    She's definitely not the same at the end of the movie.

    At the beginning
    https://i.ibb.co/jfHFxgX/Pics-Art-08-31-08-17-25.jpg
    At the end
    https://i.ibb.co/h8SpxV9/Pics-Art-08-31-08-18-06.jpg

    She's dreaming of being a hunter.
    She doesn't do her root picking because she rather be hunting.
    And yay she becomes a hunter by getting 5 people killed including her brother. Great success.

    Right from the start is very clear what she wants and she gets it by the end of the film.
    The only thing that happens is that she finally gets what she wanted by beating a highly advanced yet tremendously bad alien being. At this point I believe that this is the first time this Pred picked up these weapons and somehow forgot to bring food and drink?Like, this dude was totally messed up from the start. This is why he was randomly getting into fist-clawfights with bears.
     

  27. Komenja
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    QuoteDutch was confident at beginning and devastated at the end of original Predator.

    I disagree on all of this. Dutch has minimal to no character growth in the original Predator. There is nothing to suggest in dialogue or Schwarzenegger's acting that he's devastated.
     

    I disagree with you. It's show, don't tell.

    This is how it is done.
    I agree, and I think Pred 1, 2, and Prey all do this very well. Dutch looks haunted and dead tired, as if he barely has the energy left to turn his head. Harrigan looks like a walking corpse from his wounds and all the ash and dust caking his body. Naru has what she's always wanted and more - not only does her tribe finally recognize her as a warrior, she's the new war chief - but both she and her mother look miserable after Taabe's loss. I need to see it again, but I think she can only briefly force a smile when she looks at her dog. For the whole ceremony she's trying to put on a face for the benefit of her people, but she can't manage it.
  28. Kradan
    Quote from: overthere on Aug 31, 2022, 06:18:14 PM
    Quote from: exorcissy72 on Aug 30, 2022, 10:15:00 PM
    Quote from: Preddie-nokas on Aug 30, 2022, 08:23:09 PMDutch was confident at beginning and devastated at the end of original Predator.

    I disagree on all of this. Dutch has minimal to no character growth in the original Predator. There is nothing to suggest in dialogue or Schwarzenegger's acting that he's devastated.
     

    I disagree with you. It's show, don't tell.

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    Good observation, haven't thought about how beginning and ending mirror each other
  29. Immortan Jonesy
    Quote from: Mr.Turok on Aug 31, 2022, 04:54:44 PMWelp I don't mind breaking this down.

    Quote from: Preddie-nokas on Aug 31, 2022, 06:58:37 AM
    • A flower that lowers body temperature without the patient dying, and Feral doesn't see that kind of people on his thermal view, this is just bad physics, if you are losing body temperature that means you are radiating that heat in the environment, so they would be even more visible
    You can say the same thing about mud. Mud doesn't keep it cold for that well and that long. In fact, for both the flower and mud, to cover their bodies to such cold temperatures would shock them into hypothermia. Both concepts have enough reality based ideas for the audience to forgive the actual physics of lowering the body temperature because it makes a fun element to the story. Suspense of Disbelief as they call it. Hell this very trope is how Jurassic Park is built upon and managed to be a successful series. You can clone from blood samples but not from blood samples of millions of years, DNA doesn't last that long and it will crumble but the film wouldn't be as fun wouldn't it? It's the same principle here, the mud and flower provides cold cover from thermal vision.

    I thought it was placebo effect. But Yes, and besides not being an example of hard science fiction, it is a movie. Suspense of disbelief is required for sure.
  30. overthere
    Quote from: exorcissy72 on Aug 30, 2022, 10:15:00 PM
    Quote from: Preddie-nokas on Aug 30, 2022, 08:23:09 PMDutch was confident at beginning and devastated at the end of original Predator.

    I disagree on all of this. Dutch has minimal to no character growth in the original Predator. There is nothing to suggest in dialogue or Schwarzenegger's acting that he's devastated.
     

    I disagree with you. It's show, don't tell.

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  31. Mr.Turok
    Welp I don't mind breaking this down.

    Quote from: Preddie-nokas on Aug 31, 2022, 06:58:37 AM
    • A flower that lowers body temperature without the patient dying, and Feral doesn't see that kind of people on his thermal view, this is just bad physics, if you are losing body temperature that means you are radiating that heat in the environment, so they would be even more visible
    You can say the same thing about mud. Mud doesn't keep it cold for that well and that long. In fact, for both the flower and mud, to cover their bodies to such cold temperatures would shock them into hypothermia. Both concepts have enough reality based ideas for the audience to forgive the actual physics of lowering the body temperature because it makes a fun element to the story. Suspense of Disbelief as they call it. Hell this very trope is how Jurassic Park is built upon and managed to be a successful series. You can clone from blood samples but not from blood samples of millions of years, DNA doesn't last that long and it will crumble but the film wouldn't be as fun wouldn't it? It's the same principle here, the mud and flower provides cold cover from thermal vision.


    Quote from: Preddie-nokas on Aug 31, 2022, 06:58:37 AM
    • Feral doesn't know how his shield works, so he amputates his own arm
    Naru thrusts the spear and Feral parries but the force behind it pushes the shield right into his arm. If you trained in HEMA or other combat sports, you'd understand that blows from any weapon will not always outright disperse when you parry or block it. The energy will always transfer somehow, whenever the blow is from a man or woman. Weapons are a combat force multiplier and it will always have a increased lethal factor adding into the fight. 

    Quote from: Preddie-nokas on Aug 31, 2022, 06:58:37 AM
    • Feral doesn't know how his bio-mask works, so he headshots himself
    He didn't know the mask is missing on the count of him too busy dealing with a headshot from a huge ass .50 call musket ball. A wound from a bullet of that caliber will cause massive head trauma, no one will recover from that blow that easily even if you are a Predator. At that point he assumes the mask is gone. How would he have known Naru will use it against him? He doesn't have a single clue due to underestimating her and dealing with a headshot.

    Quote from: Preddie-nokas on Aug 31, 2022, 06:58:37 AM
    • The scene of running in the meadow, when Feral kills Naru's tribe member, and catches her when she falls in a trap shows that Feral is much faster and more agile, but in a final battle Naru becomes superhero and is much more agile than Feral ? Also Feral agility is seen in burned forest when he is jumping from tree to tree. And, Feral is extremely strong, because he killed bear in melee combat, and lifted bear like it was toy. That shows that movie is non consistent, Feral should have killed Naru in a melee combat, but she beat him although he is faster, more agile, and stronger than her. It is just bad and not convincing.

    He also goes after her from tree to tree in the final battle. That tree trap? She knew of his agility and that he will catch up to her so she planned the spike tree trap on the exact place that Feral would have gotten her. You are right in that Feral's agility would have gotten her and she planned for this exact scenario. It just proves how a capable strategist she is to foresee this possible scenario happen.

    Also you can say the same for Feral dominating Taabe, seeing how agile he was to dodge all those spear thrusts and sweeps from Feral when they fought. It doesn't surprise me that she knows how to fight too seeing how they are sibling and learned it from each other. I mean the beginning of the film shows that they hang out and train together, in the hawk scene of the duo hunting with their bows.

    Quote from: Preddie-nokas on Aug 31, 2022, 06:58:37 AM
    • Feral looks at several French men how they are loading guns instead attacking immediately, also he steps in front of Naru's loaded pistol like some kind of idiot and just looks, like he is asking, please headshot me.
    Since the last Frenchman headshot him and killed himself for it, he figured Naru will do the same. In that retrospect, its also him learning from experience that humans will go for headshot blows that will deal the killing blow. Of course he would have no idea how tricky they can achieve that, seeing how Naru sneaks up on him from behind with the flower medicine hiding her body temperature. It's his first time hunting on Earth so everything is going to be very new to him.

    Quote from: Preddie-nokas on Aug 31, 2022, 06:58:37 AM
    • Taabe is best warrior and he is fiercely fighting against Feral, but at one moment he just quits without reason, and says to Naru's you go, I die. Why he didn't continue to fight, why he talked to her in the middle of the combat with Feral and just surrender ? That is just bad scripting so we can have one to one melee fight between Feral and Naru.

    Combat pragmatism. His opponent is good, so he decides to play the stealth kill card using his cloak as the trump card. People throw dirt in the eyes, use the environment to their advantage, go for the "cheap shot" in any combat life and death situation. Taabe saw this and knew that eventually Feral will get to him due to his cloaking, you can't hit what you can't see. He gave her sister a fighting chance to live, something that any family with love in their group will do for one another. This is nothing new or bad, it's all in the line. 

    Quote from: Preddie-nokas on Aug 31, 2022, 06:58:37 AM
    • Feral doesn't behave like Predator, he is not stealthy, he is not observing, he goes in direct melee combat in the open, and that happens constantly
    If the name "Feral" meaning existing in a wild or untamed state, having returned to an untamed state from domestication, or suggestive of a wild animal; savage, doesn't clue you in on his behavior then you gotta read a dictionary more often. It's an individual behavior, some Predators will go for a stealthy route and others wanna go all in balls out.

    Quote from: Preddie-nokas on Aug 31, 2022, 06:58:37 AM
    • Most ugly and stupid Predator design so far, mandibles are wide open and non functional, face is wierd, eyes are too wide separated and on the side of the face which is not hunter but prey design (see lions eyes, wolfs, etc.), hunters eyes are oriented in front, not to the side

    Well this is subjective at this point, I'm just going to talk about the story.

    Quote from: Preddie-nokas on Aug 31, 2022, 06:58:37 AM
    • Feral has some kind of honor code, but it is not consistent, he doesn't kill Naru who he hunted in the meadow when he catches her, but kills a man without leg or any weapons who is pretending to be dead
    That was his kill. In any hunt, you finish the kill you made. You wounded it, you track it down, and you finish the job. This is what you do in hunting in real life as it's the ethical way you are taught to do when you are going for your hunting license, and with the Predators caring about honor, this would also go in their line of finish the kill that you start.

    Quote from: Preddie-nokas on Aug 31, 2022, 06:58:37 AM
    • Cliche moments, "If it bleeds it can be killed", OMG, I rolled my eyes when they said that
    No lie, I would have preferred a different variant of that line but that is besides the point.

    Quote from: Preddie-nokas on Aug 31, 2022, 06:58:37 AM
    • Relatively bad animal's CGI
    Well they did say the film is low budget so perhaps with the success of the film, Fox will pump more money the next time around for better quality CGI.

    Quote from: Preddie-nokas on Aug 31, 2022, 06:58:37 AM
    • Bad actors, no one is even surprised that being which doesn't look like anything on Earth is suddenly here, nobody discusses that, characters don't change from start to end of the movie, there is no emotions or personal growth, you don't even care about characters

    She had tried multiple times to talk about a huge ass thing killing bears with it's bare hands but no one believed her. And maybe you don't but lot of people here did and like her character alot. A combat strategist, adaptable, insightful, observant, a strong spirit that desires to do more in life, all noble qualities.
  32. exorcissy72
      Quote from: Preddie-nokas on Aug 31, 2022, 06:58:37 AM
      • A flower that lowers body temperature without the patient dying, and Feral doesn't see that kind of people on his thermal view, this is just bad physics, if you are losing body temperature that means you are radiating that heat in the environment, so they would be even more visible

      So this is something you either buy or you don't. For my money the movie establishes the flower early enough and what it does that it works for the world of the film. Is it real? No. But neither are intergalactic trophy hunters.

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      • Feral doesn't know how his shield works, so he amputates his own arm

      The way I read the scene: Feral's stuck in the tree and tries to get himself out with his shield. Naru shoves the spear so the instead of the shield cutting the tree it slices off his own arm.

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      • Feral doesn't know how his bio-mask works, so he headshots himself

      Feral doesn't know his biomask is gone. Doesn't realize that Naru has the mask set up.

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      • The scene of running in the meadow, when Feral kills Naru's tribe member, and catches her when she falls in a trap shows that Feral is much faster and more agile, but in a final battle Naru becomes superhero and is much more agile than Feral ? Also Feral agility is seen in burned forest when he is jumping from tree to tree. And, Feral is extremely strong, because he killed bear in melee combat, and lifted bear like it was toy. That shows that movie is non consistent, Feral should have killed Naru in a melee combat, but she beat him although he is faster, more agile, and stronger than her. It is just bad and not convincing.

      No, she beat him because she got the drop on him.

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      • Feral looks at several French men how they are loading guns instead attacking immediately, also he steps in front of Naru's loaded pistol like some kind of idiot and just looks, like he is asking, please headshot me.

      Both times Naru has the pistol, Feral is doing something else. Furthermore the movie goes out of its way to explain that Feral didn't view Naru as a threat.

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      • Taabe is best warrior and he is fiercely fighting against Feral, but at one moment he just quits without reason, and says to Naru's you go, I die. Why he didn't continue to fight, why he talked to her in the middle of the combat with Feral and just surrender ? That is just bad scripting so we can have one to one melee fight between Feral and Naru.

      He's sacrificing himself so his sister can escape and eventually kill Feral. It's an inverse of the scene with with the lion. You might not like the execution, but this is Action Movie 101 type stuff. It happens in Aliens, hell, it even happens in the original Predator!

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      • Feral doesn't behave like Predator, he is not stealthy, he is not observing, he goes in direct melee combat in the open, and that happens constantly

      This is a preference thing, but Feral is clearly a new hunter, just like Naru.

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      • Most ugly and stupid Predator design so far, mandibles are wide open and non functional, face is wierd, eyes are too wide separated and on the side of the face which is not hunter but prey design (see lions eyes, wolfs, etc.), hunters eyes are oriented in front, not to the side

      This is all preference, but I liked Feral's new face.


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      • Feral has some kind of honor code, but it is not consistent, he doesn't kill Naru who he hunted in the meadow when he catches her, but kills a man without leg or any weapons who is pretending to be dead

      It's made very clear that Feral doesn't kill Naru when it finds her in the bear trap because it didn't view her as a threat. Naru took that as an insult.

      Naru engineers a situation where the guy with no leg HAS a weapon. She gets him to grab his gun and point it at her. She then moves out of the way of Feral (who doesn't see her, because of the flower), who attacks him.

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      • Bad actors, no one is even surprised that being which doesn't look like anything on Earth is suddenly here, nobody discusses that.

      They discuss it as much as they talk about it in the original movie. Naru says it reminds her of a monster from stories. But if you look at Amber Midthunder's face in many of the sequences -- particularly when her people are getting killed she looks terrified. But since most of this movie is concerned with survival there just isn't a whole lot of time to ask the big questions like -- just WTF is hunting me?

      Quotecharacters don't change from start to end of the movie, there is no emotions or personal growth, you don't even care about characters

      Naru absolutely changes from the start of the movie to the end. She becomes more confident in her abilities, she levels up and learns about the personal sacrifice it takes to be a war chief. Personally, I liked Naru and Taabe a lot and I'd rank them as some of the best characters in the franchise.[/list]
    • Mike’s Monsters
      Said it before, and I'll say it again. It's quite clear here who has only seen the film once, or only half paid attention to it while watching. You don't have to love the film, or even have it memorized with tons of viewings. But it seems to me that there may be quite a few here that need to rewatch the film, and that's including some veteran members here.

      It's telling when some are completely going off about something, but missed huge details or visual cues the film hands to you. Story beats or character moments. Even the Predator itself has a lot going on. I love the way the movie mirrors the hunt with Naru and Feral. I have noticed new subtle things in every viewing, my recent was how much practical face is used at the night fight and not as much CGI as I'd remembered. Not that that makes the story any better having the practical head.

      But speaking of heads, I've been scratching mine at quite a few takes here. Many even coming from the long timers. I think we need to let this movie marinate for a bit. Curious to see how many people might be changing their tune in a few years after we've had some time with Prey.
    • Preddie-nokas
      No offense to anyone, but anyone who finds this movie credible is probably joking. This movie got almost everything wrong, is not in Predator's spirit, Feral has wrong design and doesn't behave like Predator. Movie is not consistent nor believable. I honestly believe this movie got most things wrong out of all Predator's movies so far.

      Let's check what doesn't work:

      • A flower that lowers body temperature without the patient dying, and Feral doesn't see that kind of people on his thermal view, this is just bad physics, if you are losing body temperature that means you are radiating that heat in the environment, so they would be even more visible
      • Feral doesn't know how his shield works, so he amputates his own arm
      • Feral doesn't know how his bio-mask works, so he headshots himself
      • The scene of running in the meadow, when Feral kills Naru's tribe member, and catches her when she falls in a trap shows that Feral is much faster and more agile, but in a final battle Naru becomes superhero and is much more agile than Feral ? Also Feral agility is seen in burned forest when he is jumping from tree to tree. And, Feral is extremely strong, because he killed bear in melee combat, and lifted bear like it was toy. That shows that movie is non consistent, Feral should have killed Naru in a melee combat, but she beat him although he is faster, more agile, and stronger than her. It is just bad and not convincing.
      • Feral looks at several French men how they are loading guns instead attacking immediately, also he steps in front of Naru's loaded pistol like some kind of idiot and just looks, like he is asking, please headshot me.
      • Taabe is best warrior and he is fiercely fighting against Feral, but at one moment he just quits without reason, and says to Naru's you go, I die. Why he didn't continue to fight, why he talked to her in the middle of the combat with Feral and just surrender ? That is just bad scripting so we can have one to one melee fight between Feral and Naru.
      • Feral doesn't behave like Predator, he is not stealthy, he is not observing, he goes in direct melee combat in the open, and that happens constantly
      • Most ugly and stupid Predator design so far, mandibles are wide open and non functional, face is wierd, eyes are too wide separated and on the side of the face which is not hunter but prey design (see lions eyes, wolfs, etc.), hunters eyes are oriented in front, not to the side
      • Feral has some kind of honor code, but it is not consistent, he doesn't kill Naru who he hunted in the meadow when he catches her, but kills a man without leg or any weapons who is pretending to be dead
      • Cliche moments, "If it bleeds it can be killed", OMG, I rolled my eyes when they said that
      • Relatively bad animal's CGI
      • Bad actors, no one is even surprised that being which doesn't look like anything on Earth is suddenly here, nobody discusses that, characters don't change from start to end of the movie, there is no emotions or personal growth, you don't even care about characters
    • Cougerboy
      Quote from: Cosmic Incubation on Aug 30, 2022, 09:09:28 PMNo offense but anyone that would argue that Prey is worse than Shane Black's The Predator is either being disingenuous or seriously needs to re-evaluate what a decent movie is.

      I don't think this is the best film I've ever seen or anything, I do think there are some fair criticisms and faults, but even arguing that this is like a god-awful terrible film or isn't at least a competently made film seems pretty dishonest/misguided to me.

      Genuinely not trying to insult anybody or start any fires or anything, but that's just how I feel about a lot of the more scathing and 1 or 1/2 star reviews I've seen.

      Agree 100%. Its pretty obvious those who say "Prey" is the worst predator movie is nothing but a troll...or has an agenda.
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