Ever since Noah Hawley’s Alien series was announced, the time that the series would be taking place has been a concern for many Alien fans. The regular use of the phrase “not too far future” or “near future” has been a worry that the series would be taking the place far earlier than the early 2100s that the first Alien takes place in. Thanks to recent comments from John Landgraf, those fans can stop worrying!
At FX’s Television Critics Association panel today, FX Chief John Landgraf addressed the Alien series’ timeframe when asked by Deadline if Sigourney Weaver’s Ellen Ripley would make an appearance in the show.
“Alien takes place before Ripley. It’s the first story that takes place in the Alien franchise on Earth. So, it takes place on our planet. Right near the end of this century we’re in — so 70-odd years from now. Ripley won’t be a part of it or any of the other characters of Alien other than the alien itself.”
70-ish years would put the series in the 2090s which is actually closer to Prometheus in the timeline than it is Alien, and even before Alien: Covenant. Also, it’s interesting to note that the existence of Aliens during this time period also conflicts with the David/Alien creation angle that Ridley Scott was starting to set up in Alien: Covenant (much to this fan’s delight).
Landgraf also went on to compare Noah Hawley’s work on the series Coen brothers’ film, or how James Cameron’s Aliens relates to the original Alien.
“Noah has this incredible ability, and I think you’ve seen it with Fargo, to both find a way of being faithful, showing fidelity to an original creation like a Coen brothers’ movie, or in this case, Ridley Scott’s and James Cameron’s follow-up, Aliens, but also to bring something new to the table that represents extension and reinvention of a franchise at the same time.”
Deadline also clarried that as of writing, five scripts have been completed for the Alien series and seems to suggest that the recent delays in the shooting of the series is actually because of Hawley’s other series, Fargo, needing to take precedence “given its Midwest setting.”
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The Quiet Eye viral really seemed to imply some sort of sleuthing going on on Yutani's end, prying into Weyland Industries matters at the time.
Also, it seems to me that Weyland-Yutani isn't really the main corporation this series is focusing on. A new company called Prodigy is. So unless it is directly correlated to Prodigy's exploits, I'm not sure how relevant a Weyland or a Yutani would be in this particular series, unless we end up seeing the two corporations engaged in some sort of direct rivalry (or collaboration between them, I guess).
Of course, if Prometheus and Covenant are full on getting dropped from the continuity on the whole, then none of these details would be relevant and Weyland-Yutani could have existed for decades prior to the start of this show if they really wanted to go that route.
But I may have become enthusiastic about it being aggressively bad.
It ties into that, and the novel where she comes back between movies then gets mind wiped. It's a very utilitarian piece of bullshit.
Oh man so this directly ties in to android Ripley from the Perry novelizations of the original trilogy of DH comics then!
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Nah, Ripley is the main guy's sister put in a new body a few decades later. All that time being stored as an uploaded consciousness meant her memories were mostly corrupted, but come to the fore when she fights aliums.
"Oh look, it's Ripley's mother ! And she's a Colonial Marine ! ISN'T THIS EXCITING !?"
-1 for what kind of half baked nonsense I fear will make David look way better lol
Either way, I'm excited to see what happens. Would have preferred the Reipley era personally for the aesthetic, but hopefully they don't go too far off the rails.
Sorry if I misunderstood what was said above.
Fair enough.
This is ridiculously hyperbolic, Jonesy.
I see. I wasn't trying to say that people who liked the references and nods in Fargo are fanboys, rather that the writers were acting like fanboys by including the references and nods in the first place.
I guess that's the part that might trigger some people
How was I being a condescending dick? I simply gave my two cents on the matter. The target of my derision was certain creative choices made by those behind the TV show Fargo, not anyone on the forum. Find one part of my post where I insulted anyone for not sharing my point of view.
Being a condescending Dick to people who like what you don't like is much disgusting and pathetic.
It also didn't make a great deal of sense that the TV series was set in the same universe as the original Fargo (and apparently every other Coen Brothers film?), given that Lester Nygaard (Martin Freeman) was a clear replication of Jerry Lundegaard (William H. Macy) from the film. Also, the very notion of tying all of the Coen Brothers' filmography together and making some kind of Marvel-esque CBCU (Coen Brothers Cinematic Universe) fanboy wet dream makes me throw up a little bit of sick within my mouth.
And Legion connects to X-Men barely, mostly doing their own thing like, although we get a wink and a nod to Patrick Stewart's incarnation of Professor Charles Xavier once in Season 1, 2 and 3 create their own incarnation better suited to their story, even if tangentially connected to the Fox incarnation.
The nature of the main character changing reality just by existing allows them to have their cake and eat it in that particular way.
But yes so far, Noah Hawley takes the opposite approach of taking every opportunity to remind you something's part of a larger established franchise, with the rarest exception.
The UFO in season two is a reference to another Coen brothers movie called 'The Man Who Wasn't There'.
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I can't yet speak for later seasons, or for Legion and any direct connections that may or may not have with the various X-Men movies.
As for this show, it seems like it is being pretty directly billed as a story set before Alien, and thus placing it within the same continuity as the films (albeit with no direct word yet on whether it is running parallel to [and retconning parts of?] the prequel films, or flat out knocking them out of continuity), but outside of the presence of the Aliens (and maybe Engineers/Space Jockeys?) and Weyland-Yutani, I can't imagine anything in this late 21st century Earth setting that would directly link up with events, characters, etc. from the original film.
To have it set in and around the time the Prometheus is on its way to LV223 makes me wonder if that's the plan
So I wouldn't rule out the prequel story of David as creator (of at least the lv426 xenos) as being retconned just yet
They could make something truly engaging if it lead up into the third prequel somehow rather than just muddying the waters with what might be an enjoyable sure but an unrelated retake just to celebrate the Monster if you will at the expense of anything connected
That is ok for a series but what then?
You'd still have the Covenant floating unresolved in perpetuity on its way to Orgiae 6.
Could easily write the two most recent Alien films out in a script but that would be an admission of failure that I don't think the prequels quite deserve and would damage the franchise regardless of whether you like them or not, so I'm not too worried about this series changing the lore because I think the respect will be there not to or at least tie into them(As same time period) to do so and thus if successful, lead back into another film
PS. It'll probably be about a down on his luck cyborg dude who finds an urn of black goo in a cave in Thailand and takes it home to Eastern Europe and turns into a Xeno, kills a few people, site nuked from orbit. The end
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I was joking of course.
I believe the Corporal is on record as saying he'll be quitting the fandom if that happens.
Well, flu is better than cancer, sure. It's still a flu
If the new series is going to recontextualize Alien Covenant and throw the "David is the creator" nonsense in the trash, that's absolutely a good thing.
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Fixed for you.