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We talk Pat Cadigan’s sarcastic tone, Hicks’ PTSD, the craziness of this particular draft, the seperation of source material and adaptation, amongst plenty of tangents about the various unproduced Alien 3 scripts and the other adaptations of William Gibson’s drafts of Alien 3!
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Don't change anything, nothing wrong with swearing and it's not distracting in the slightest.
I feel like with the Crazy Cat Lady overly comical tone the author may have been going for more of a parody vibe, like leaning heavy into the Boris and Natasha "Moose and Squirrel" kinda thing.
I like the idea and I like the concept, though it would have to be something more messed up and less cuddly than Pilot and Moya were, like maybe even more nonconsensual and Cenobitey, or weird and arcane like the Basestar Hybrids beings from BSG.
I dig that freaky Earthworm facehugger too, perfect for a mural on the wall of one's gooey biomechanoid mobile home.
Had not thought of that. Giger's concept art humanoids as the true civilization behind the Derelict and the Space Jockey as a robotic equivalent of an artificial intelligence computer? The Engineers and the pilot could have co-existed as related but different things. Too bad Ridley didn't see it that way.
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By the end of the Soviet Union, they had long since transitioned to a state capitalist economy as opposed to anything representing communism. No educated Soviet would still be lamenting "capitalists" in 1991, let alone educated UPP scientists doing so in 2191. So even if you're using some alternate history where the USSR never collapsed, it was well on its way to complete control by oligarchs like modern Russia is.
And I checked Gibson's original draft. It only uses the word "capitalist" once, and in reference to megacorporations like Weyland Yutani, not the unnamed Space America.
It really took me out of the novel in those chapters because it literally sounds like something an elderly person who grew up at the height of the Cold War would write, not something written by someone with a strong grasp of politics.
I shall never out-run my reputation as a corrupting verbal influence...
It's true, it does... But another explanation is that this and the costume design for 'Prometheus' both probably took their cues from the original Giger concept art.
Think this was meant to be inspired by what might have occurred to some of the crew of the derelict (rest being turned into eggs), with the Space Jockey being conceived as just a living CPU-type concept (as per the Pilot character, in 'Farscape') or ideas being kicked around for the famous hieroglyphics art.
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Ooof! How right you are! What an intriguing mystery... I knew Bolton did all four covers for the Earth War individuals and this wasn't one of those, but looking into it, I didn't realize he did this piece special for that first trade release in Dec 1991. It's bizarre because this piece fits right in with beautiful covers he did for DotS a year or two later, and this scene is a dead ringer for Genna and Ash in the bowels of Samara, but clearly, it isn't them. It makes me wonder if the Bolton piece inspired the art direction of Eduardo Barreto's issues of that series. Ash does inexplicably shave her head all of the sudden in the middle of the run, I just figured everyone, including Diana Schutz was still riding high on Ripley's recent look from Alien3.
Or... alternate theory, maybe Bolton's just a goddamn psychic, tell me this unfortunate lad from 1996 doesn't look familiar...
Premonition of an Engineer or an all too rare image of that elusive space marine Atax? You decide!
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How about you give your own input ?
Wrong. Hicks, RidgeTop and Xenomorphine are the ones responsible
Besides, everyone knows that the professor learned English thanks to Red Letter Media.
Although these days, Kradan's English actually appears to be better than the Corporal's.
You can always edit-in in bleeps and bloops over the expletives in post.
Eg: "So I reckon those
fooking[Bleep!] aliens would never fo- [bloop!] those effi-[bleeb!]. You'll sound a bit like R2D2 but at least you will come across as more respectable."the mind going to damn weird places at times of deep stress" (as a few characters point out).
So most of the weirder lines are towards the end because everyone's just losing their damn minds.
Which makes for very weird tonal shifts.
(the "shoots and scores" bit is just plain bad, tho)
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Sorry about that, Anon. I often can't help myself there.
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However, I have to say the amount of swearing can be really jarring and distracting :-
Also, dare I hope for more Alien 3 unproduced drafts episodes this year ? It's movie's 30th anniversary after all