The upcoming Alien FX Series will be 8-10 hours long according to Ridley Scott. Speaking to BBC Radio 4’s Today programme today, Ridley Scott discussed his new film House of Gucci. He revealed a Blade Runner TV series pilot has been written and the new Alien show pilot is currently being written.
For both Blade Runner and Alien, an outline has been written of events that will happen throughout the 8-10 hours of them. That suggests we’ll be getting 8-10 episodes in the Alien FX series.
Here’s what the Alien Covenant director said:
“We’re already into, having written, the pilot for Blade Runner, and the bible. We’re already presenting Blade Runner as a TV Show which will probably be the first 10 hours and then Alien is a similar thing. Alien is now being written for Pilot. You also have to write the history of it – 8 hours or 10 hours – the bible of what happens in those 10 hours. Then if it goes on, like The Good Wife is mine and The Good Fight is mine – that’s been going 16 years.”
Ridley Scott on the set of Alien Covenant.
You can listen to the interview on the BBC website. He starts talking at 2h 23m.
The Alien FX Series is being helmed by Noah Hawley, known for his work on Legion and Fargo, and will take place in the near future on Earth. Filming is due to begin next year with a potential release in 2023.
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That's kinda exactly how I feel about The Dark Knight
Fixed that for you
Oh! nevermind then
It's all been pretty superficial.
I'm just saying that Ridley should have gone back to basics with the Alien in Covenant (because there it is what it makes it memorable), instead of doing what he wanted to do and couldn't, back in the day.
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In terms of monomyth storytelling, the biggest difference between the first two films is the characters. There's no mentor in Alien; Aliens gives Ripley Hicks (although Dallas could be argued to fit a similar role). The call is resisted by multiple characters, not just Ripley. Story wise, they both hit the major beats, but Cameron adds the archetypical characters as well.
SM knows why.
But since he's not here to speak up, this guy also follows the same monomyth interpretation:
https://medium.com/@simonlundlarsen/after-the-events-in-alien-james-cameron-made-it-clear-that-ellen-ripley-refused-to-be-part-of-10f6bb0bd8e
So many Aliens imitators have clogged up our screens without realising that you need the characters and arcs (IOW, in this interpretation, the monomyth) for the story to earn its success as not just sci-fi space soldiering, but first and foremost, as basic human drama. These basics feature in good stories from Homer to Hemingway to Heinlein.
But the monomyth isn't the only way to successfully structure a story: case in point - Alien '79. Rather than shoe-horn Alien into the monomyth paradigm, I think of it simply as the "Ten Little Indians" structure. Far less character-based, but very powerful in the way it pulls you through the narrative.
I like to summarise it like this:
Aliens is what you study in film school; Alien is what you study as a fan. Trying to learn why Alien shouldn't work (and yet does) will get you nowhere as a filmmaker. Learning about why Aliens DOES work, is like taking a masterclass in filmmaking.
TC
I don't know what you were trying to ask in your previous post.
You just described, more or less, what Ridley did with the Alien in Covenant.
Why does everybody who is about to criticise Aliens feels the need to say that ? Just say: "I hate Aliens", nothing bad about that
The "Cameron Concept" was the origin of the space velociraptor - which every subsequent director has followed. Not that I resent Aliens because I don't - it truly is a masterpiece. But I often wonder what Alien 2 would have been like if they had pursued the original interpretation, as devised by O'Bannon and Giger and Scott.
Take your example imagery:
https://s10.gifyu.com/images/tumblr_9182c72af9ad45e8f769ca7dff101385_e4afe7db_500.gif
and add this crab-walking alien with tail as giant erection:
https://thumbs.gfycat.com/CostlyEmbellishedFennecfox-size_restricted.gif
and this
https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F1.bp.blogspot.com%2F-uyfSsQDVQ70%2FUeqOoELMQXI%2FAAAAAAAAIG8%2FXzpTfGlWGIU%2Fs1600%2Feggsilo%2Cpng.png&hash=eda6b4f198b257586e677f51f9749b0338780b9d
which was Giger's design for the origin of the eggs: Biomechanoid machinery (symbolically reminiscent of pregnant bellies), that produced the eggs as though from a bizarre alien factory line. (One YouTube commentator says that the ribbing leading down to the floor is a conveyor belt for the eggs, although I can't see it myself). It really emphasises Giger's biomechanoid concept. Although I've always thought it a shame that the biomechanoidisms are missing from the chestburster and facehugger designs.
TC
That art piece is extremely beautiful and amazing
I can't find it, but I believe it used to be someone's signature on here but, a photoreal piece of artwork of H.R Giger's Alien lying on a tiled floor in black and white.
That's the vibe I hope this goes for, not quite as good, but definitely similar in tone to this here:
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/7e/f0/06/7ef006e92116ac51f78c4607b48cbe85.jpg
https://www.oohlo.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/Minotaur.gif
Anyway, the show will most likely feature the proper biomechanical creatures and i'm wary of how they're gonna execute them...
We haven't seen the proper "biomechanical strain" since.... Alien3?
Feral behavior is fine with the Neomorph though. And it would have helped make a real distinction beyond the acidic blood and the reproductive cycle, which is not improvement of the black spore life cycle at all anyway.
It's really noticeable in Covenant when the adult Alien appears and it's just a reskinned Neomorph. There's really nothing to distinguish their movement or behaviours. You've got the life cycle and the acid blood and that's about it.
The slower, more deliberate killer of the Big Chap portrayal could've been a really good counterpoint to the Neomorphs, but instead we got AvP Aliens with better CGI.
It must be the only time the practical suit can be seen in the entire movie.
https://i.ibb.co/SsdRskq/Alien-Covenant-screencaps-kissthemgoodbye-28544429.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/pR1xYQX/Alien-Covenant-screencaps-kissthemgoodbye-28544929.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/JRwNTxJ/Alien-Covenant-screencaps-kissthemgoodbye-28545529.jpg
It makes sence.
https://s10.gifyu.com/images/5we8of.gif
That is unacceptable.
Now, if you said you didn't go and see it because of the helmets, I would have nodded my head in sagely commiseration.
That got a chuckle from me. I did actually mean to go see Last Duel but just never got around to it. Barely saw any marketing here.
It doesn't amount to much screentime, but I still love that moment where it stands up when coming into the terraforming bay. I still think that just looks creepy as f**k.
I really wish they'd have been left out of Covenant. It's the same issue I had with Engineers/01: Genesis where the Alien just doesn't get treated right once introduced. Whether that's done to screentime/page count, it was just better to have been left out. I'd have liked more time with the Neomorph, and seen something that makes them stand out a little more from the Alien. I do love the Neomorphs, but I have to agree with SiL - can't remember which thread he said it on - about them not being different from the Alien really.
I maybe just trying to justify bad writting but stuff like this makes me think that to David "superior" means something other than "has a better reproductive cycle"
I mean, look at George Lucas - man got away with showing probably less than 5 minutes worth of Vader in the entire prequel trilogy !
I do dislike the way the third act of the film just becomes a mini remake of Alien for a 20 minute stretch once they get on board the Covenant (easily the least effective and least defined part of the movie), and would have been more than happy to shelve the capital-A Alien and save it for a third installment in the prequel narrative, but I do like the way it was visualized on screen and what the nature of its genesis does both for David's character within Covenant's story as well as the thematic embellishment it has within the wider tapestry of what the Alien is and what it does in previous films.
Regardless of the scope of gothic / philosophical horror, the Alien was a waste and poorly handled in Covenant. There's no memorable Alien moment as in the first three movies.
https://i.ibb.co/7RKfkGX/6585eeebd13cc1e54f4f95f97557e2ed.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/HDMkNtN/ripley.jpg
I suppose that crane action scene should be that, but for some reason I tend to remind Neomorphs more than anything the Alien did in that movie.
I think they forgot to show us why the Alien is superior to the Neomorph. The life cycles are somewhat different, but even so the spores appear to be superior. Also, maybe that unused fighting scene between both species showing the Alien as the winner would have helped a bit.
Which was all the more highlighted by having the Neomorphs, which aside from the acid blood and specific life cycle were basically the same thing. You could've had a Neomorph in that last act instead and changed absolutely nothing.
If that renders my opinion null, then so be it I guess. I dig the film, I'd love to see it followed up on directly, but I'd also be very cool seeing a brand new take on the material as well because, over the years, reinterpreting the core concepts has been one of the defining traits of each subsequent film.
Wait... What ?
Which is all the more amusing because even with his reluctance to bring the capital-A Alien into Covenant, he still put forward one of the most interesting takes on the creature to date in that film.