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Ridley Scott Says The Alien FX Series Will Be 8-10 Hours Long

The upcoming Alien FX Series will be 8-10 hours long according to Ridley Scott. Speaking to BBC Radio 4’s Today programme today, Ridley Scott discussed his new film House of Gucci. He revealed a Blade Runner TV series pilot has been written and the new Alien show pilot is currently being written.

For both Blade Runner and Alien, an outline has been written of events that will happen throughout the 8-10 hours of them. That suggests we’ll be getting 8-10 episodes in the Alien FX series.

Here’s what the Alien Covenant director said:

“We’re already into, having written, the pilot for Blade Runner, and the bible. We’re already presenting Blade Runner as a TV Show which will probably be the first 10 hours and then Alien is a similar thing. Alien is now being written for Pilot. You also have to write the history of it – 8 hours or 10 hours – the bible of what happens in those 10 hours. Then if it goes on, like The Good Wife is mine and The Good Fight is mine – that’s been going 16 years.”

 Ridley Scott Says The Alien FX Series Will Be 8-10 Hours Long

Ridley Scott on the set of Alien Covenant.

You can listen to the interview on the BBC website. He starts talking at 2h 23m.

The Alien FX Series is being helmed by Noah Hawley, known for his work on Legion and Fargo, and will take place in the near future on Earth. Filming is due to begin next year with a potential release in 2023.

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  1. BlueMarsalis79
    I don't. I just don't think it's nearly as spectacular as many seem to. And sometimes I find the praise somewhat nauseating. But if I take a break from Alien type stuff for a good while I tend to remember how much I really like it.
  2. SiL
    I'm not sure what you mean by saying Alien shouldn't work. Having been to film school, we absolutely studied it - it's not some avant garde art film, it's a pretty paint by numbers haunted house/monster on a spaceship thriller plot with a proper Hollywood treatment. It hits all the beats of the monomyth (which is a very broad framework) and features all sorts of tropes that were common even on release.

    EDIT

    In terms of monomyth storytelling, the biggest difference between the first two films is the characters. There's no mentor in Alien; Aliens gives Ripley Hicks (although Dallas could be argued to fit a similar role). The call is resisted by multiple characters, not just Ripley. Story wise, they both hit the major beats, but Cameron adds the archetypical characters as well.
  3. TC
    Quote from: SiL on Dec 17, 2021, 09:32:19 PM
    Trying to emulate Aliens without learning why any of the movie actually works as well as it does. *

    SM knows why.

    But since he's not here to speak up, this guy also follows the same monomyth interpretation:

    https://medium.com/@simonlundlarsen/after-the-events-in-alien-james-cameron-made-it-clear-that-ellen-ripley-refused-to-be-part-of-10f6bb0bd8e

    So many Aliens imitators have clogged up our screens without realising that you need the characters and arcs (IOW, in this interpretation, the monomyth) for the story to earn its success as not just sci-fi space soldiering, but first and foremost, as basic human drama. These basics feature in good stories from Homer to Hemingway to Heinlein.

    But the monomyth isn't the only way to successfully structure a story: case in point - Alien '79. Rather than shoe-horn Alien into the monomyth paradigm, I think of it simply as the "Ten Little Indians" structure. Far less character-based, but very powerful in the way it pulls you through the narrative.

    I like to summarise it like this:

    Aliens is what you study in film school; Alien is what you study as a fan. Trying to learn why Alien shouldn't work (and yet does) will get you nowhere as a filmmaker. Learning about why Aliens DOES work, is like taking a masterclass in filmmaking.

    TC
  4. Immortan Jonesy
    Yeah but sometimes part of what makes it great is the result of those technical limitatioms, as in the case of Star Wars retrofuurism. I believed that the motivations behind the designs were more technical than creative. But sometimes the creators seem to forget why their creations are so great (although in Ridley's case it was a very cooperative work), and then in the future they focus on what they "wanted it to be and it couldn't be due to technical limitations".  :-\

  5. TC
    Quote from: Immortan Jonesy on Dec 03, 2021, 12:16:57 AM
    Totally agree. Covenant Alien is just another space velociraptor from the AVP movies. They should have returned to the elegant but flamboyant body language of sadistic psychopathic killer.



    The "Cameron Concept" was the origin of the space velociraptor - which every subsequent director has followed. Not that I resent Aliens because I don't - it truly is a masterpiece. But I often wonder what Alien 2 would have been like if they had pursued the original interpretation, as devised by O'Bannon and Giger and Scott.

    Take your example imagery:

    https://s10.gifyu.com/images/tumblr_9182c72af9ad45e8f769ca7dff101385_e4afe7db_500.gif

    and add this crab-walking alien with tail as giant erection:
    https://thumbs.gfycat.com/CostlyEmbellishedFennecfox-size_restricted.gif

    and this
    https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F1.bp.blogspot.com%2F-uyfSsQDVQ70%2FUeqOoELMQXI%2FAAAAAAAAIG8%2FXzpTfGlWGIU%2Fs1600%2Feggsilo%2Cpng.png&hash=eda6b4f198b257586e677f51f9749b0338780b9d

    which was Giger's design for the origin of the eggs: Biomechanoid machinery (symbolically reminiscent of pregnant bellies), that produced the eggs as though from a bizarre alien factory line. (One YouTube commentator says that the ribbing leading down to the floor is a conveyor belt for the eggs, although I can't see it myself). It really emphasises Giger's biomechanoid concept. Although I've always thought it a shame that the biomechanoidisms are missing from the chestburster and facehugger designs.

    TC
  6. skhellter
    i don't mind the space-raptor stuff because at least it's pretty damn well executed space-raptor stuff AND.. the creature in Covenant is just a fleshy sketch of the perfect organism after all (David's narcissism gets a wake up call at the end).


    Anyway, the show will most likely feature the proper biomechanical creatures and i'm wary of how they're gonna execute them...

    We haven't seen the proper "biomechanical strain" since.... Alien3?
  7. Immortan Jonesy
    Totally agree. Covenant Alien is just another space velociraptor from the AVP movies. They should have returned to the elegant but flamboyant body language of sadistic psychopathic killer.


    Feral behavior is fine with the Neomorph though. And it would have helped make a real distinction beyond the acidic blood and the reproductive cycle, which is not improvement of the black spore life cycle at all anyway.
  8. SiL
    Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Dec 02, 2021, 09:09:59 AMI do love the Neomorphs, but I have to agree with SiL - can't remember which thread he said it on - about them not being different from the Alien really.
    Here and others :laugh:

    It's really noticeable in Covenant when the adult Alien appears and it's just a reskinned Neomorph. There's really nothing to distinguish their movement or behaviours. You've got the life cycle and the acid blood and that's about it.

    The slower, more deliberate killer of the Big Chap portrayal could've been a really good counterpoint to the Neomorphs, but instead we got AvP Aliens with better CGI.
  9. Immortan Jonesy
    Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Dec 02, 2021, 09:09:59 AM
    Quote from: Immortan Jonesy on Dec 02, 2021, 12:24:07 AM
    There's no memorable Alien moment as in the first three movies.

    It doesn't amount to much screentime, but I still love that moment where it stands up when coming into the terraforming bay. I still think that just looks creepy as f**k.

    It must be the only time the practical suit can be seen in the entire movie.

    https://i.ibb.co/SsdRskq/Alien-Covenant-screencaps-kissthemgoodbye-28544429.jpg
    https://i.ibb.co/pR1xYQX/Alien-Covenant-screencaps-kissthemgoodbye-28544929.jpg
    https://i.ibb.co/JRwNTxJ/Alien-Covenant-screencaps-kissthemgoodbye-28545529.jpg




    Quote from: Kradan on Dec 02, 2021, 07:51:25 AM
    Quote from: Immortan Jonesy on Dec 02, 2021, 12:24:07 AM
    I think they forgot to show us why the Alien is superior to the Neomorph. The life cycles are somewhat different, but even so the spores appear to be superior. Also, maybe that unused fighting scene between both species showing the Alien as the winner would have helped a bit.

    I maybe just trying to justify bad writting but stuff like this makes me think that to David "superior" means something other than "has a better reproductive cycle"

    It makes sence.

    https://s10.gifyu.com/images/5we8of.gif
  10. BlueMarsalis79
    I agree entirely with Nightmare Asylum, it's the cheatburster imitating David for good or ill that's most memorable the "Alien Covenant" itself if you like and, the Neomorphs felt authentically connected to the Alien so I never considered them generic even if lots of stuff exists with the source of inspiration they come from executed with not as much success.
  11. Corporal Hicks
    Quote from: Buttz on Dec 01, 2021, 02:20:31 PM
    Too bad those damn millennials and there phones won't watch it!

    That got a chuckle from me. I did actually mean to go see Last Duel but just never got around to it. Barely saw any marketing here.


    Quote from: Immortan Jonesy on Dec 02, 2021, 12:24:07 AM
    There's no memorable Alien moment as in the first three movies.

    It doesn't amount to much screentime, but I still love that moment where it stands up when coming into the terraforming bay. I still think that just looks creepy as f**k.


    Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Dec 02, 2021, 01:14:23 AM
    I do dislike the way the third act of the film just becomes a mini remake of Alien for a 20 minute stretch once they get on board the Covenant (easily the least effective and least defined part of the movie), and would have been more than happy to shelve the capital-A Alien and save it for a third installment in the prequel narrative

    I really wish they'd have been left out of Covenant. It's the same issue I had with Engineers/01: Genesis where the Alien just doesn't get treated right once introduced. Whether that's done to screentime/page count, it was just better to have been left out. I'd have liked more time with the Neomorph, and seen something that makes them stand out a little more from the Alien. I do love the Neomorphs, but I have to agree with SiL - can't remember which thread he said it on - about them not being different from the Alien really.
  12. Kradan
    Quote from: Immortan Jonesy on Dec 02, 2021, 12:24:07 AM
    I think they forgot to show us why the Alien is superior to the Neomorph. The life cycles are somewhat different, but even so the spores appear to be superior. Also, maybe that unused fighting scene between both species showing the Alien as the winner would have helped a bit.

    I maybe just trying to justify bad writting but stuff like this makes me think that to David "superior" means something other than "has a better reproductive cycle"

    Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Dec 02, 2021, 01:14:23 AM
    would have been more than happy to shelve the capital-A Alien and save it for a third installment in the prequel narrative

    I mean, look at George Lucas - man got away with showing probably less than 5 minutes worth of Vader in the entire prequel trilogy !
  13. Nightmare Asylum
    I'd make an argument in favor of this shot (on a visual level alone, and within the narrative context of the film emphasizing the connection between David and his work-in-progress creation), which has at least personally stuck with me in a pretty poignant way:


    I do dislike the way the third act of the film just becomes a mini remake of Alien for a 20 minute stretch once they get on board the Covenant (easily the least effective and least defined part of the movie), and would have been more than happy to shelve the capital-A Alien and save it for a third installment in the prequel narrative, but I do like the way it was visualized on screen and what the nature of its genesis does both for David's character within Covenant's story as well as the thematic embellishment it has within the wider tapestry of what the Alien is and what it does in previous films.
  14. Immortan Jonesy
    Quote from: SiL on Nov 26, 2021, 09:41:40 PM
    Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Nov 26, 2021, 12:30:52 PM
    Yeah, I genuinely find the interpretation of the Alien in Covenant, and the nature of its connection to David, to be pretty damn fascinating,
    I found the Alien itself, as an entity in the story, to be pretty bland. With the exception of one or two shots it was basically every screeching bouncy Alien since AvP.

    Which was all the more highlighted by having the Neomorphs,  which aside from the acid blood and specific life cycle were basically the same thing. You could've had a Neomorph in that last act instead and changed absolutely nothing.

    Regardless of the scope of gothic / philosophical horror, the Alien was a waste and poorly handled in Covenant. There's no memorable Alien moment as in the first three movies.


    I suppose that crane action scene should be that, but for some reason I tend to remind Neomorphs more than anything the Alien did in that movie.

    I think they forgot to show us why the Alien is superior to the Neomorph. The life cycles are somewhat different, but even so the spores appear to be superior. Also, maybe that unused fighting scene between both species showing the Alien as the winner would have helped a bit.
  15. SiL
    Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Nov 26, 2021, 12:30:52 PM
    Yeah, I genuinely find the interpretation of the Alien in Covenant, and the nature of its connection to David, to be pretty damn fascinating,
    I found the Alien itself, as an entity in the story, to be pretty bland. With the exception of one or two shots it was basically every screeching bouncy Alien since AvP.

    Which was all the more highlighted by having the Neomorphs,  which aside from the acid blood and specific life cycle were basically the same thing. You could've had a Neomorph in that last act instead and changed absolutely nothing.
  16. Evanus
    Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Nov 26, 2021, 12:30:52 PM
    Yeah, I genuinely find the interpretation of the Alien in Covenant, and the nature of its connection to David, to be pretty damn fascinating, and the film itself to be the best the franchise has been since Alien 3.

    If that renders my opinion null, then so be it I guess. I dig the film, I'd love to see it followed up on directly, but I'd also be very cool seeing a brand new take on the material as well because, over the years, reinterpreting the core concepts has been one of the defining traits of each subsequent film.
    https://thumbs.gfycat.com/ScarceUnluckyHoopoe-size_restricted.gif
  17. Nightmare Asylum
    Yeah, I genuinely find the interpretation of the Alien in Covenant, and the nature of its connection to David, to be pretty damn fascinating, and the film itself to be the best the franchise has been since Alien 3.

    If that renders my opinion null, then so be it I guess. I dig the film, I'd love to see it followed up on directly, but I'd also be very cool seeing a brand new take on the material as well because, over the years, reinterpreting the core concepts has been one of the defining traits of each subsequent film.
  18. BigDaddyJohn
    Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Nov 25, 2021, 10:30:39 PM
    Quote from: dave1978 on Nov 25, 2021, 09:10:09 AM
    Scott's is involved.....  it wont be.   Remeber,  in Scotts mind the Alien is dead,  nothing more can be done.  When in reality its his imagination and ability that has wained over the years.

    Which is all the more amusing because even with his reluctance to bring the capital-A Alien into Covenant, he still put forward one of the most interesting takes on the creature to date in that film.

    Wait... What ?
  19. Nightmare Asylum
    Quote from: dave1978 on Nov 25, 2021, 09:10:09 AM
    Scott's is involved.....  it wont be.   Remeber,  in Scotts mind the Alien is dead,  nothing more can be done.  When in reality its his imagination and ability that has wained over the years.

    Which is all the more amusing because even with his reluctance to bring the capital-A Alien into Covenant, he still put forward one of the most interesting takes on the creature to date in that film.
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