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New “Predator: Hunting Grounds” Trophies Released including a Very Familiar Skull!

The developers at Illfonic surprised us with some new content today for their “Predator: Hunting Grounds” asymmetrical multiplayer video game, including one item that should be very familiar to Predator fans!

There are three new Predator trophies now unlockable in the game, including two prehistoric weapons and one very interesting alien-type skull! Check them out:

Prehistoric Mace

 New "Predator: Hunting Grounds" Trophies Released including a Very Familiar Skull!

Prehistoric Knife

 New "Predator: Hunting Grounds" Trophies Released including a Very Familiar Skull!

Alien Hunter’s Trophy

 New "Predator: Hunting Grounds" Trophies Released including a Very Familiar Skull!

The last “Alien Hunter’s Trophy” should be very familiar to fans, as it appears to be a smaller and modified version (missing its outter jaws) of one of the skulls found on the Lost Predator Ship built by Stan Winston’s team and featured in the film “Predator 2”!

 New "Predator: Hunting Grounds" Trophies Released including a Very Familiar Skull!

 New "Predator: Hunting Grounds" Trophies Released including a Very Familiar Skull!

Now along with those new Trophies, Illfonic has announced the Saber mask is now out of early access and available to all players.

Saber Mask

 New "Predator: Hunting Grounds" Trophies Released including a Very Familiar Skull!

Not scheduled for another update until October, this drop of content was a pleasant surprise for this game’s loyal fans, who just experienced a large influx to their player database thanks to “Predator: Hunting Grounds” being free to all PlayStation players who subscribe to PlayStation Plus!

So if you’re a subscriber and haven’t already, be sure to download the game before its availability expires after Monday, October 4!

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  1. Wweyland
    It has been frustrating to find the lore tapes. I've grinded all the weapons to 10, and myself to level 150, done most of the achievements, but found something like 4 lore tapes only.
  2. Mr.Turok
    I mean, looking at the design, it looks Egyptian based to me.

    It can just as easily be Predator based, meaning Egypt is one of those special places on Earth where many have hypothesized extra terrestrials had a hand in developing their civilization.

    P.S. Your pics aren't showing, a usual result linking to wiki images unfortunately.

    Maybe, I'm just going with the pattern of the previous historical Predator info that they were hunting in the time period when the samurai and vikings were already established. Maybe Cleo is the exception? Idk really....

    Pics ain't showing, goddammit. Why does wiki images have to be like this all of a sudden, this blows! Oh well
  3. Mr.Turok
    Neca being canonical is said due to lore from it being used within the "Predator bible". The issue with that document (outside none of us having access to it to know specifics) is that it was written with the mindset that AVP was canonical to the solo franchise which outside the two crossover films being intended during the production of The Predator, it's a separate continuity. Fox and later Disney when they asked about it segregated things by franchise despite owning both franchises. As a result stuff that's canon to AVP might not be canon to Alien or Predator and it's done that way either by branding or the other creature appearing in that title. It should also be noted that it's outdated by 2018 so things could've changed since them. Of course us not having access to the thing makes everything dubious anyways if it had material that never saw the light of day like the Assassin apparently being a Super Predator.

    Yeah this Fox/Neca and AVP/Predator situation is such a mess, thats why its hard for me to take any of the info there with credit due to too many contradictions and the separation of the AVP/Predator series makes everything outdated and dubious.

    Based off appearances the only one we know to be old would be Elder and the AVP ancient but we have no idea what the age of them is. Cleopatra since she shares the same face as the females and isn't mentioned by the devs to be older than the others like both elders are we don't know if she's 30 or 30,000. She does have an "ancient disk" but we have no idea how she acquired it, just that she did.

    It's unfortunate that Illfonic never made the unique Predators also have unique facial appearances as well. Its something that many people like myself had pointed out with great disappointment.


    "he described its armor as far more ornate almost egyptian in its regal design. Physically it was slimmer but far more deadly than any previously encountered " - Keyes

    Yeah, we don't know what the exact deal is with Cleo.

    In terms of what?

    "Almost Egyptian" as in we don't even know if Cleo's armor is really Egyptian based, or perhaps it is, and perhaps Egyptian armor is Predator based (ala Stargate or the sort) and perhaps this is the garb of a Predator clan, and quite possibly Cleo has never even been in Egypt, etc..

    I just appreciate all the ambiguity.

    I mean, looking at the design, it looks Egyptian based to me.
    https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/avp/images/b/b0/Cleopatra.png/revision/latest?cb=20210901212256
    https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/avp/images/e/e5/CleopatraLizTaylor.png/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/265?cb=20210901215442

    Additionally, going by with how the pattern of past cultural based Predators hunting in the respective regions of said culture like Samurai hunting actual samurai in Japan and Viking hunting vikings in the Iron Age, this would suggest that Cleopatra was hunting in Egypt during their time as an empire. Its just dubious on which time period she was hunting such as Egypt has a long timeline where she could have visited anytime. Based on the info of Samurai and Viking, they were hunting when their human counterparts were already a established power and the Predators simply mimicked them, or at least thats the info that is suggestion but yeah its very here and there kind of thing.
  4. Voodoo Magic
    "he described its armor as far more ornate almost egyptian in its regal design. Physically it was slimmer but far more deadly than any previously encountered " - Keyes

    Yeah, we don't know what the exact deal is with Cleo.

    In terms of what?

    "Almost Egyptian" as in we don't even know if Cleo's armor is really Egyptian based, or perhaps it is, and perhaps Egyptian armor is Predator based (ala Stargate or the sort) and perhaps this is the garb of a Predator clan, and quite possibly Cleo has never even been in Egypt, etc..

    I just appreciate all the ambiguity.

  5. SuperiorIronman
    Neca being canonical is said due to lore from it being used within the "Predator bible". The issue with that document (outside none of us having access to it to know specifics) is that it was written with the mindset that AVP was canonical to the solo franchise which outside the two crossover films being intended during the production of The Predator, it's a separate continuity. Fox and later Disney when they asked about it segregated things by franchise despite owning both franchises. As a result stuff that's canon to AVP might not be canon to Alien or Predator and it's done that way either by branding or the other creature appearing in that title. It should also be noted that it's outdated by 2018 so things could've changed since them. Of course us not having access to the thing makes everything dubious anyways if it had material that never saw the light of day like the Assassin apparently being a Super Predator.

    So Serpent Hunter is estimated to be near 1000 and it's weird he wasn't showing his age, but being he's apart of AVP this may not factor into the upper limits of solo material aging. We just don't know one way or the other but in AVP material it's stated they can reach 1000, just that they do start to wear down by then and it's weird Serpent Hunter wasn't.

    As far as solo material goes we know they can live up to the hundreds of years given City Hunter is estimated to have been around 300 when he died and that's still considered young.

    Based off appearances the only one we know to be old would be Elder and the AVP ancient but we have no idea what the age of them is. Cleopatra since she shares the same face as the females and isn't mentioned by the devs to be older than the others like both elders are we don't know if she's 30 or 30,000. She does have an "ancient disk" but we have no idea how she acquired it, just that she did.
  6. Mr.Turok
    "he described its armor as far more ornate almost egyptian in its regal design. Physically it was slimmer but far more deadly than any previously encountered " - Keyes

    Yeah, we don't know what the exact deal is with Cleo.

    In terms of what? Appearance? Place in canon? I honestly don't get what you mean here. Only thing is that she is Dutch's rival and the tapes hinted at Round 2 coming about in the near future. How, when, and where will go down is beyond me.


    But the rest of this I think you're trying to merge abstract with fact. In any mission scenario in this asymmetrical game, the Predator Player can play with any Predator: Dead Movie Predators, Custom Predators, the very first Alpha Predator, a Predator from Viking times.... If the mission scenario was truly canon, which Predator was actually there? And did the Predator win, or did the Fireteam win? Because it keeps changing every time you play.

    But I already pointed this out earlier. I know that we don't know who were the individuals of Fireteam doing the missions or the particular individual Predator being present in the event, only that Fireteam, Predator, and Stargazer were present in these mission events. Its like Aliens Fireteam Elite for example, Fireteam was present in these mission events that went down in LV-895. Only that we don't know which class, individuals, or weapon gear were present canonically in the game during the time of these events, only that the missions indeed happened. Otherwise, by your reasoning, Aliens Fireteam Elite as a whole isn't canon because we don't know who were present and what truly went down in these mission scenarios.

    Yes, I would land on the side that the Predator DLC Characters Illfonic has created are additions to the lore. But playing random mission scenarios with a very old Predator doesn't mean it's still alive, nor does giving that Predator (or trophies) a backstory and supplying that backstory to the gamer.

    For clarity, excluding the ones that are canonically dead, I already have addressed that some Predators' fates is left unclear about their ultimate end so its just up in the air what truly happened to them. I'm not here to argue for their living or dead status as I have nothing to support either or of their fates.

    What I am saying, is that referencing Elder's flintlock pistol trophy indicated that Predators not only collect trophies that aren't only skulls and spines, but can live for centuries. Taking that into account, with the trophies we have now present in the game, with the oldest one possibly being 10,000 years old, the way the bios are written as if the trophies were being studied and cataloged, that means there was at least one Predator out there that was killed and taken by OWLF, took a look at the Prehistoric Mace it had, sampled it and found its age through carbon dating. Why else is the trophy's lore written out that way?

    Who knows, maybe one day a 15,000 year old lifespan might become true one day. But until then, it's just fan theory... that can be countered with Neca declaring that Yautja like the Lost Predators use time-travel. :)

    Well, guess the only way to find out is to ask Illfonic themselves in the next livestream, QA event, or even if AVPG does an interview with them.

    I counter that with Illfonic, NECA, and Fox together declaring Alpha Predator canon to the series, but nothing said about the rest of the NECA figures. Unless I'm missing something here of course. 
  7. Kailem
    Yeah I've never taken the trophies that are thousands of years old to be confirmation that Predators live that long, just that they're cool trophies they might have taken from different periods in human history when they might have visited Earth that you can use to customise your own.

    Greyback giving Harrigan the flintlock in Predator 2 and various other places basically confirmed they can live for hundreds of years, but several thousand feels like it's pushing it to me.
  8. Voodoo Magic
    "he described its armor as far more ornate almost egyptian in its regal design. Physically it was slimmer but far more deadly than any previously encountered " - Keyes

    Yeah, we don't know what the exact deal is with Cleo.

    Its not picking and choosing if Illfonic already said so. Jungle and City are canonically dead, but present only for gameplay reasons. Illfonic and Fox said the events of this game is canon, happens right after The Predator so idk what to tell you.

    Yes, Illfonic said this game takes place after the events of "The Predator" where Stargazer has fallen out of the U.S. Government's graces, and O.W.L.F has been reinstated. Those events are canon as well as the creation of the humanoid female Predator where Illfonic and 20th Century worked very close together on. And based on the lore tapes and the Predator:Stalking Shadows novel, the Cleopatra Predator has walked the Earth at least twice in the last few decades.

    But the rest of this I think you're trying to merge abstract with fact. In any mission scenario in this asymmetrical game, the Predator Player can play with any Predator: Dead Movie Predators, Custom Predators, the very first Alpha Predator, a Predator from Viking times.... If the mission scenario was truly canon, which Predator was actually there? And did the Predator win, or did the Fireteam win? Because it keeps changing every time you play.

    Yes, I would land on the side that the Predator DLC Characters Illfonic has created are additions to the lore. But playing random mission scenarios with a very old Predator doesn't mean it's still alive, nor does giving that Predator (or trophies) a backstory and supplying that backstory to the gamer.

    Who knows, maybe one day a 15,000 year old lifespan might become true one day. But until then, it's just fan theory... that can be countered with Neca declaring that Yautja like the Lost Predators use time-travel. :)
  9. The Necronoir
    Short take: if anything in Hunting Grounds is a likely contender for canon, it's going to be the tapes. Those tapes specifically mention the "Cleopatra" predator, so we know that at least one of the DLC characters lived through to modern times. She also happens to hail from the earliest point in history of any that we have so far, even if we err on the side of caution and place her first encounters with humans around the reign of Cleopatra VII, the last Pharaoh of Egypt (first century BCE).

    The only debate then is whether you consider it likely that predators would either gift trophies and armour or claim them from each other in combat. If yes, then there isn't any conclusive proof that predators live more than a few centuries. If no, you have to accept that their lifespan probably extends to a least several thousand years. Cleopatra wouldn't be hunting on earth as a child, after all.

    I guess you could also start to consider some life-preserving technology like hyper-sleep as well, which was going to be explicitly shown in the first AVP movie at one point.
  10. Mr.Turok
    We can't pick and choose what's entered in Predator: Hunting Grounds for gameplay reasons and what isn't, to transform our desire into canon. The Jungle Hunter is, but the Viking Predator is not? The City Hunter is, but the Alpha Predator is not? Why, because two were featured in Predator movies (that we saw killed) and the other two weren't in a movie at all?

    Its not picking and choosing if Illfonic already said so. Jungle and City are canonically dead, but present only for gameplay reasons. Illfonic and Fox said the events of this game is canon, happens right after The Predator so idk what to tell you. Gameplay does not equal canon. Otherwise, you are telling me that one can continually block the attack of a +7ft 300lb alien super hunter, even though that can outmatch a human in pretty much all the stats....with a 6 inch knife? 
    Its noted both in the films and in the game that they are dead. Lore tapes said that OWLF examined the severed arm of CH and Dutch's tales after the events of the first film. Its noted and confirmed.

    As for the other Predators, so far with the info we got from them, its very vague and open ended. Its been inferred that maybe Viking has been slain in Valkyrie's bio and the reason why Valkyrie came to Earth as said in Illfonic's release blog:

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    As we discovered in October, the Viking Predator can be traced back to when the Viking raiders managed to draw the attention of the Yautja. As the legends of this mighty creature spread, Norsemen saw an opportunity to gain an honorable death by way of this wanderer, so they continued to pursue glory.  Few even relished over a Yautja death, which angered the Predators, so they sent in their fiercest warrior – the Valkyrie. This newest Predator class’ sole purpose is to choose the slain worthy of a place in Valhalla. Many fought against her in search of glory, but none could best her. So beware, if you were able to bring a Viking Predator down, she is coming for you in this DLC pack.

    Samurai and Valkyrie have not yet been stated to be alive or dead in the current timeline, just that they existed, so its debatable if they are or not, leaving room for interpretation. Thats fine and its just more fun for people to think about. There is no real reasoning to suggest either are dead or alive. However this isn't the same for the trophies, as we all know how trophies were obtained, from hunting periods of time ago.

    One must always check themselves in regards to personal desire versus reality. We play as Predators, from different ages. We get to unlock and decorate ourself with trophies from the ages we've seen belonging to Predators in films, and others we've never seen before. Dutch 2025 can fight along Dutch 1987. Just because Cleopatra appears to have cool Egyptian looking armor, doesn't mean she was even ever in Egypt. Her tribes' ancestors may have and passed these influences to their kin. We just don't know.

    Again, its obvious that Dutch 2025 and Dutch 1987 cannot canonically meet and fight alongside each other. Its plain to see that Illfonic don't need to comfirm this, it doesn't make sense in any way shape or form other than just for gameplay reasons. Its like for God of War, when people questioned why enemies are tougher to beat along the way when Kratos is a God of War, Cory Barlog says that otherwise there would be no game, as Kratos would just one shot them all with the exceptions of the boss battles, as they are Gods themselves. Some things are for gameplay purposes and others are for story reasons. They are not the same at all and I would need some actual substantial reason to why gameplay equals canon.

    Its like Aliens Fireteam Elite for example, having the classic marine armor is pure cosmetics. There is nothing in the game that supports the canon presence of the armor design in the current time period of the game. However, in comparison to Hunting Grounds, it makes more sense that a Predator being living long as 10,000 years old seeing that they are established to be very long lived creatures that are known to take skulls and objects of the time period in which they hunted in, as we see with the Elder in P2. The only difference we have is just we have different ideas of where the line is.

    Now, the lore tapes we can pull something more substantial from, but I think we should head-check ourselves with the rest. :)

    Makes sense as its outright stated, while the trophies are just indicate how long they have been around. I wouldn't mind if we took this up to Illfonic in a tweet or even ask them the question in a future interview, if there will be any.
  11. SiL
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    We can't pick and choose what's entered in Predator: Hunting Grounds for gameplay reasons and what isn't, to transform our desire into canon.
    Are you new here? :laugh:

    Spoiler (click to show/hide)
  12. Voodoo Magic
    We can't pick and choose what's entered in Predator: Hunting Grounds for gameplay reasons and what isn't, to transform our desire into canon. The Jungle Hunter is, but the Viking Predator is not? The City Hunter is, but the Alpha Predator is not? Why, because two were featured in Predator movies (that we saw killed) and the other two weren't in a movie at all?

    One must always check themselves in regards to personal desire versus reality. We play as Predators, from different ages. We get to unlock and decorate ourself with trophies from the ages we've seen belonging to Predators in films, and others we've never seen before. Dutch 2025 can fight along Dutch 1987. Just because Cleopatra appears to have cool Egyptian looking armor, doesn't mean she was even ever in Egypt. Her tribes' ancestors may have and passed these influences to their kin. We just don't know.

    The day something like this is confirmed, I'll embrace it, but the below earned in a video game's loot crate is not an official confirmation that Predators in this franchise live for 10 to 15 thousand years or more.

    https://i.ibb.co/jbP2yx6/Screenshot-20210928-221629-Chrome.jpg

    What you can do in this game though with its amazing customization tools is create a Predator how you would think it looked, hunting in that prehistoric time period. Which is fun.

    Now, the lore tapes we can pull something more substantial from, but I think we should head-check ourselves with the rest. :)
  13. Mr.Turok
    Isn't too much of a stretch to think they'd also do this with other Predators IMO, either as an award or just a sign of respect. Perhaps more so with the trinket trophies rather than the skulls, but if a skull was significant they might keep it to pay homage to an ancestor, without claiming it as their own kill.
    Maybe true, it would be an interesting area to explore in future media. However, I'm just going with the establish lore to support my theory on the topic at hand.

    Could always head-canon it by just saying that sometimes we get Preds that look like and wear the same armor of previous ones, ala 'Classic/Crucified' in Predators.
    True, and I can see this also apply to other preds as well, but in this case that Voodoo is saying here is that the game also has canon breaking elements like JH being present in 2025 when he died in 1987, but I did say that is just gameplay reasons.

    All we know is that in the game, each mission event is canon and in the event, there is always a Predator, Fireteam, and Stargazer present for the event.

    Do we though? Haven't seen any official confirmation that the game is canon. That would be a lot of dead drug lord's brothers. And there isn't always a Predator that shows up.

    I mean the lore tapes stated how Stargazer is running around in Central America, stirring up wars and Fireteam Voodoo being a branch created by OWLF so if the events of the missions didn't happen then what are they for if not some kind of storyline to give to players? I mean you can say the same for Aliens Fireteam, like how many times has the Doctor gotta be saved or have we stepped into the Engineer ship but we all know its just replay able storyline and players can repeat the mission in anyway they like. Same thing applies here, each mission has happened before but simply that the outcome depends on the players.
  14. RidgeTop
    I can buy the idea of armor, as its something we do as well, but passing down trophies doesn't make sense. Especially from a race that is hardcore honor bound and about the thrill of the hunt, I doubt they would pass down trophies they gotten through hard won brutal battles. Predator 2 supports the theory of long lived hunters that possessed trophies from hunts long ago and are willing to gift them to worthy foes who won the battle against a member of their clan fair and square. Haven't seen nothing yet of passing trophies down to clan members.

    Isn't too much of a stretch to think they'd also do this with other Predators IMO, either as an award or just a sign of respect. Perhaps more so with the trinket trophies rather than the skulls, but if a skull was significant they might keep it to pay homage to an ancestor, without claiming it as their own kill.

    Yeah, we can separate the two as its already stated that the playable dead Predators are canonically dead. The game follows the events after The Predator and is in accordance to the Predator timeline. Its been long established that Jungle and City Hunter are just there for gameplay purposes.

    Could always head-canon it by just saying that sometimes we get Preds that look like and wear the same armor of previous ones, ala 'Classic/Crucified' in Predators.

    All we know is that in the game, each mission event is canon and in the event, there is always a Predator, Fireteam, and Stargazer present for the event.

    Do we though? Haven't seen any official confirmation that the game is canon. That would be a lot of dead drug lord's brothers. And there isn't always a Predator that shows up.
  15. Mr.Turok
    But did Illfonic acknowledge / indicate Predators have such an protracted lifespan?
    Wait, I just said why, what do you mean? The trophies themselves indicate such lifespan both lore wise and with the gameplay function of expanded Predator customization. The trophies builds further on both Predator customization and the lore of Predators collecting trophy items from hunts of long ago, as Predator 2 established with Greyback  with the Flintlock and the Korean War Patch.

    See the game has playable dead Predators. Playable living Predators. Playable Predators from different Ages long ago. And you can play as the very first Alpha Predator.

    Yeah, we can separate the two as its already stated that the playable dead Predators are canonically dead. The game follows the events after The Predator and is in accordance to the Predator timeline. Its been long established that Jungle and City Hunter are just there for gameplay purposes. Some Predators like Valkyrie have an unknown status of being alive or dead, so that is also up in the air. All we know is that in the game, each mission event is canon and in the event, there is always a Predator, Fireteam, and Stargazer present for the event. Its simply up in the air of who was present and won the battle canon wise, but gameplay wise, it all depends on the players. 

    ...and the trophies we win in loot crates aren't often tied to a specific Predator.

    While it's not tied to any specific Predator, it doesn't invalidate the existence of these trophies being present on Predators that OWLF obtained from their bodies. The bio of the Prehistoric Mace already indicated that its been sampled for carbon dating, so who else would carbon date it than OWLF, which is the very organization that hunts Predators and obtains many of their bodies and technology? 

    If you have Predators like Cleopatra and Viking that correlates the Khopesh and Viking axe trophies, there is no doubt in my mind that other trophies were also taken by other Predators that are not yet known or simply just not in a legendary status like Cleopatra and Viking. The Khopesh and Viking trophies were never said to belong to Cleopatra and Viking exclusively, but it doesn't invalidate the idea that it can be theirs or even from another Predator. Only that they existed and were worn by the hunters.

    ...and Predators are known to gift trophies:

    https://i.imgur.com/boyRiZp.gif

    If anything, that would support my theory. An Elder Predator finding a sole Fireteam member worthy to spare and give an ancient Prehistoric Knife to the person as a gift would indicate whomever this Predator is, to be very ancient, seeing how that time period would be around 10,000-13,000 or maybe even 15,000 years old. Much like how Greyback is at least over +400 years old, if he was there to obtain the filntlock from that time period, the particular Predator who has the Prehistoric Knife must be ten thousand or more in order to exist to take it and live long enough to at least gift it to the worthy foe that slain its clan member.

    So basically, what I mean with all of this is, unless the game specifically states Predators live for 10,000 years, 15,000 years or more, it doesn't.  :)

    Not exactly, otherwise you would invalidate the Flintlock pistol that Greyback had, which is also present in the game as well. Remember, Illfonic is building on the current Predator lore and its been said that Predators have been hunting on Earth for a very long time. We just don't know where the line started.

    I do think upwards of more than 5,000 years would be a bit much to take seriously though, and it's also possible that armor and trophies are passed down from Predator ancestors or gifted.

    I can buy the idea of armor, as its something we do as well, but passing down trophies doesn't make sense. Especially from a race that is hardcore honor bound and about the thrill of the hunt, I doubt they would pass down trophies they gotten through hard won brutal battles. Predator 2 supports the theory of long lived hunters that possessed trophies from hunts long ago and are willing to gift them to worthy foes who won the battle against a member of their clan fair and square. Haven't seen nothing yet of passing trophies down to clan members.
  16. SuperiorIronman
    We can customize things to our hearts content but nothing indicates the Illfonic Predators had a prehistoric knife, just that a Predator does acquire one at some point which is why we can equip it whether they got it during the stone age or pulled it off some guy in 1978. And as far as role playing is concerned they definitively could have gotten it during the stone age. Jungle Hunter while long dead could have some doppelganger who happens to have had one, or maybe he did have one. But things are up in the air of who that Predator is and what they had on them so that players can do what they want and so it's left open ended.

    It doesn't mean Predators are super long lived, but it doesn't mean they aren't either. And because we can play as characters who could be or are dead this muddies things further. Not helped that trophies could be passed down to new generations or taken it in such a way it that didn't involve the original owner. Because none of this is specified like certain weapons or dreadlock styles, Jungle Hunter might be several thousand years old to have owned one, but it doesn't mean he is either.

    We know they are long lived. A Predator can live up to several hundred years old especially if 300 is still considered young. But we don't know any upper limits of this for sure. A Predator did grab a prehistoric knife, we just don't know who or if any of the roster owns this and under what circumstances.
  17. RidgeTop
    Predator lifespan is an interesting thing. Via Xenopedia:

    "While the maximum lifespan of a Predator is unknown, the species has been known to live for hundreds to thousands of years. It has been implied that one or two centuries is considered young for the species, with relative adolescents of the species not even going on their first Xenomorph hunt before they attain an age of few centuries. Most, however, do not reach senescence due to the rigors of their dangerous and semi-nomadic lifestyle."

    Given Cleopatra has Egyptian style armor (which makes my AvP fanboy side think of the ancient alien Predator pyramid stuff making its way to Egypt) we can assume she's at least a couple thousand years old. Hell in the AvP: Eternal comic Gideon Lee lived 700+ years by Predator vampirism.

    I do think upwards of more than 5,000 years would be a bit much to take seriously though, and it's also possible that armor and trophies are passed down from Predator ancestors or gifted.
  18. Voodoo Magic
    This right here, I love this lore wise:

    https://www.avpgalaxy.net/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2021/09/knife-1.jpg

    As I brought up in a topic before of Predator biological immortality, Predators are very long lived and the most far back on record of ancient man's history was about 15,000-10,000 years ago, meaning that Predators have not only been hunting on Earth for that long but also living that long as well. Its just awesome to know my theory was on point on this! Thanks Illfonic!  ;D

    I must have missed this. Where did Illfonic acknowledge / indicate Predators have such an protracted lifespan?

    The whole concept of Predator trophies in the game itself was inspired by Predator 2, which Illfonic admitted to this, right? This same concept brought into the game serves both gameplay and lore branching. Gameplay is to give more unique customization for their Predator builds and for players to grind for spending VTs in lockers. Lore wise, if you read the various bios of Predator trophies, it is described from a first person perspective most of the time like the bio of the Prehistoric Mace:

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    Radiocarbon dating places this Mesopotamian artifact to roughly 1,900 BCE 

    or the Prehistoric Knife:

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    Little is known about this pre-Columbian hunting knife, as the style is unlike anything found in North or Central America. It was likely the custom weapon of a tribeless warrior.

    Lots of these bios are written in a manner that the trophies are being cataloged or currently under study. Who else would catalog such findings than the very organization that is dedicated to hunting down Predators? OWLF, of course! And they have been doing this for decades so its not inaccurate for them to take down Predators who some have happen to have these kinds of trophies on them. Also, look at how players put these trophies on their Predators and if they are taken down by Fireteam, the whole body itself is recovered.....including these trophies. The matches play out like how it would in the lore perspective, whenever either side wins or loses. Missions, Fireteam, Stargazer, and an individual Predator is present, playing out these events in 2025 with only the outcome being dependent on the players, but it all matches out with what is going on story wise.

    But did Illfonic acknowledge / indicate Predators have such an protracted lifespan?

    See the game has playable dead Predators. Playable living Predators. Playable Predators from different Ages long ago. And you can play as the very first Alpha Predator.

    ...and the trophies we win in loot crates aren't often tied to a specific Predator.

    ...and Predators are known to gift trophies:

    https://i.imgur.com/boyRiZp.gif

    So basically, what I mean with all of this is, unless the game specifically states Predators live for 10,000 years, 15,000 years or more, it doesn't.  :)
  19. Mr.Turok
    This right here, I love this lore wise:

    https://www.avpgalaxy.net/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2021/09/knife-1.jpg

    As I brought up in a topic before of Predator biological immortality, Predators are very long lived and the most far back on record of ancient man's history was about 15,000-10,000 years ago, meaning that Predators have not only been hunting on Earth for that long but also living that long as well. Its just awesome to know my theory was on point on this! Thanks Illfonic!  ;D

    I must have missed this. Where did Illfonic acknowledge / indicate Predators have such an protracted lifespan?

    The whole concept of Predator trophies in the game itself was inspired by Predator 2, which Illfonic admitted to this, right? This same concept brought into the game serves both gameplay and lore branching. Gameplay is to give more unique customization for their Predator builds and for players to grind for spending VTs in lockers. Lore wise, if you read the various bios of Predator trophies, it is described from a first person perspective most of the time like the bio of the Prehistoric Mace:

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    Radiocarbon dating places this Mesopotamian artifact to roughly 1,900 BCE 

    or the Prehistoric Knife:

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    Little is known about this pre-Columbian hunting knife, as the style is unlike anything found in North or Central America. It was likely the custom weapon of a tribeless warrior.

    Lots of these bios are written in a manner that the trophies are being cataloged or currently under study. Who else would catalog such findings than the very organization that is dedicated to hunting down Predators? OWLF, of course! And they have been doing this for decades so its not inaccurate for them to take down Predators who some have happen to have these kinds of trophies on them. Also, look at how players put these trophies on their Predators and if they are taken down by Fireteam, the whole body itself is recovered.....including these trophies. The matches play out like how it would in the lore perspective, whenever either side wins or loses. Missions, Fireteam, Stargazer, and an individual Predator is present, playing out these events in 2025 with only the outcome being dependent on the players, but it all matches out with what is going on story wise.
  20. Voodoo Magic
    This right here, I love this lore wise:

    https://www.avpgalaxy.net/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2021/09/knife-1.jpg

    As I brought up in a topic before of Predator biological immortality, Predators are very long lived and the most far back on record of ancient man's history was about 15,000-10,000 years ago, meaning that Predators have not only been hunting on Earth for that long but also living that long as well. Its just awesome to know my theory was on point on this! Thanks Illfonic!  ;D

    I must have missed this. Where did Illfonic acknowledge / indicate Predators have such an protracted lifespan?
  21. Mr.Turok
    This right here, I love this lore wise:

    https://www.avpgalaxy.net/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2021/09/knife-1.jpg

    As I brought up in a topic before of Predator biological immortality, Predators are very long lived and the most far back on record of ancient man's history was about 15,000-10,000 years ago, meaning that Predators have not only been hunting on Earth for that long but also living that long as well. Its just awesome to know my theory was on point on this! Thanks Illfonic!  ;D

    Design wise.....it could have been better. I seen much more interesting stone knives than that, like the one from Far Cry Primal looked much better than this one:

    https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.pinimg.com%2Foriginals%2Fa1%2F23%2Fe7%2Fa123e7016a5b23d73acf0f9d51128775.jpg&f=1&nofb=1
    (This one is a duplicate made one ripped straight from the game itself, I'll post the link at the bottom if you want to see the process, its really interesting)
    Spoiler (click to show/hide)
  22. Kailem
    Yeah I put the previous skull they added on my City Hunter since it seemed appropriate.

    And yeah, I'd say there's never been a better time to play either fireteam or Predator on Playstation. I've played dozens of matches of both these past few weeks and almost every time I've gone up against players who seem to be brand new, so it's a really low-pressure atmosphere. Coupled with the fact that the Predator wait times are the shortest I think they've ever been and it's a great time to get back in to it.
  23. RidgeTop
    Nice interior screenshots there, Voodoo.

    So I just hopped on some Clash and unlike before the PS+ offer, games are found quite quickly. PlayStation Plus has 46.3 million subscribers, so if even a tiny fraction of that claimed the game this month, we're looking at a massive influx of new players. I'm glad the game seems to have some new life now, just hope Illfonic can actually bring the thunder this time with the October DLC and capitalize on all these new players.

    Baby mandible.rex thing? Kinda looks uncomfortable to have on ones waist hahaa.

    Great to ref that icon trophy wall though.

    Yeah they're nice trophies to put on the P2 Preds.
  24. Voodoo Magic
    No Predator experimentation going on anywhere, huh?

    There is a crude Predator autopsy to be found but it's on an entirely different map and it's mission based (only appears if you get that particular mission).

    Not my screenshot:

    https://forum.predator.illfonic.com/uploads/default/original/2X/6/6825aaf82736c973322d193b296591cdd32a5096.jpeg

    That mission appears in Headquarters as well, just FYI. The autopsy room is in the smaller camp to the east of the main installation though.

    Ah, good to know, thanks! That mission has yet to come up for me in this HQ map via the ol' randomization, and I'm not the one hosting my private matches (when they occur).
  25. The Necronoir
    No Predator experimentation going on anywhere, huh?

    There is a crude Predator autopsy to be found but it's on an entirely different map and it's mission based (only appears if you get that particular mission).

    Not my screenshot:

    https://forum.predator.illfonic.com/uploads/default/original/2X/6/6825aaf82736c973322d193b296591cdd32a5096.jpeg

    That mission appears in Headquarters as well, just FYI. The autopsy room is in the smaller camp to the east of the main installation though.
  26. Voodoo Magic
    Does anyone have screenshots from inside the Stargazer base?

    It might not be today, but over the course of the next few days I can take some screenshots and post them here for you.
    That would be amazing!
    Thank you so much.

    You got it! It might be tonight!
    Sweet!  Can’t thank you enough dude.

    The outside levels are much more visually impressive than what you find inside, but here you go brother!

    https://i.ibb.co/NnjYPFg/PS-App-20210918-044337.jpg
    https://i.ibb.co/CssqY0k/PS-App-20210918-044341.jpg
    https://i.ibb.co/YcQZXG7/PS-App-20210918-044318.jpg
    https://i.ibb.co/wNWC0VB/PS-App-20210918-044334.jpg
    https://i.ibb.co/Q8QdzXJ/PS-App-20210918-044313.jpg
    https://i.ibb.co/QY1vkPq/PS-App-20210918-044306.jpg
    https://i.ibb.co/z7cWfSz/PS-App-20210918-044300.jpg
    https://i.ibb.co/6rB3HMq/PS-App-20210918-044255.jpg
    https://i.ibb.co/1s3xZvs/PS-App-20210918-044330.jpg
    https://i.ibb.co/59JRGdq/PS-App-20210918-044324.jpg
  27. Sabres21768
    Does anyone have screenshots from inside the Stargazer base?

    It might not be today, but over the course of the next few days I can take some screenshots and post them here for you.
    That would be amazing!
    Thank you so much.

    You got it! It might be tonight!
    Sweet!  Can’t thank you enough dude.
  28. Samhain13
    In regards to the last update being disappointing to the community, I wouldn't view the regulars on Illfonic forums that seem to spam threads with inside clown gags and jungle hunter jokes rather than have decent conversations as the community. It drove a lot of good people out of those forums, including me. They're the loud, often annoying minority. :D

    The clown world meme died on those forums months ago, its not just about that forum's members, on the big facebook group, the discords about the game, among streamer/content creators, the "teams", and most people there are on ps, it was considered a let down from what I saw.

    We got an awesome DLC Cleo Predator to play as, awesome lore tapes recorded by actress Alice Braga herself, and bot support that will help longevity of the game when the game is no longer supported one day. (1v1 Hunt Private Matches? Oh yeah!) So a disappointing update? Not to me and my buds!

    Tapes were fine. Cleo is another cosplay meme slow Predator with bad stats like Samurai and Viking. Not a big fan of the design, and if you evaluate her gameplay wise: sure it workes great against randoms, anything does, but in competitive matches she is just...

    For a Stalker long range build she is a worse Elder. Worse stamina and less perk points but then again with the Smart Disk using a mouse with high DPI any class can put a fight cus the weapons is too strong. While for melee she is a better Berserker, more perk points, better specs and can run same gear. I would say she is probably better than Viking too due to the tactician spec, with trapper perk those trapped or netgun are screwed if you use Sickle with fearless on them. That would do 38% extra melee damage, still melee doenst work well vs PC FT.

    So you pay for a class that is just better than the worse ones but not as good as the default Hunter class. City Hunter and Valkyrie were good at launch but they were nerfed, they made their stats good to get people to buy them, then took it away. While Dante and Dutch'87 are still the same overpowered pay to win ft dlc as they always been. Fireteam: Hunting Grounds after all.

    Bots are funny, braindead aimbots that give players extra lifes in case they die, help more than the average player.

    In regards to saving the game. How many new maps and DLC have we received this year so far? So if they were not still running at a profit and rather a loss, Illfonic would stop with new updates immediately.

    Maps that were added were good, Clash mode is a meme, not what the community wanted, City Hunter and Dutch'25 and '87 were the only really good DLC imo. Isabelle is fine but she is like a worse version of the Recon class stats wise.

    And the playerbase on Playstation has always been there before PS-Plus this month. Roughly 20 second wait-times for playing as the Fireteam, and Predator wait-times vary 4-5min.

    Wait times on PC were usually around that as well, since most PS players have crossplay on, as fireteam it was always fast and you get in a lobby with only ps players most time, as predator it could go from 4-10 minutes depending on the time of your region, and again most time you get into lobbies with only ps players. I know and play with many PS players and it doesnt matter if the platform, the people that have been playing since launch weren't impressed. Now for Pred its taking from 1 to 3 mins.

    Funny thing about the wait times, on the day on Cleo release they had to turn cross play off for some hours cus many people that bough Cleo on Epic couldnt use her, so while they releasing a patch to fix that crossplay was disabled for everyone. The wait times for Predator got better, most PC players go for fireteam due to fps advantage.

    However, I think there is a different perspective unfortunately for PC players as yourself than many of us on Playstation. We have crossplay turned off, because First Person Shooting on PC has an advantage. (I have it turned off myself most of the time). So the bulk of the playerbase stays away from you guys  :laugh: so you might be seeing this game in a lesser state than us Playstation players, the lionshare of the Predator: Hunting Grounds player base

    The average PC player on PHG doesnt perform that much better in my experience than the average PS player, especially as Predator. Most of them try melee and get slaughtered. Its only when you get like into a match with players of the top 0,1% of the PC community that... yeah most ps predator players are gonna spend the whole match running and being hunted down by the single fireteam player if they dont die 1v1 in the first minute. Or you are gonna have a Predator shooting arrows and plasma so fast the fireteam won't react in time. So most of the time crossplay wont affect ps players at all.
  29. Voodoo Magic
    Yeah FTE isn't going to have a long life as an online game. Even with new levels it just isn't really sustainable without a pvp of some sort. It would have probably had a longer life if they hadn't shot themselves in the foot with the way matchmaking works though.

    And really if that's not in the cards then that's okay I guess. I know I've certainly got my money's worth already and I'm still enjoying it.

    I can't regularly find random players to match up with again, but yeah I had a blast playing it too. So I don't regret the purchase at all, even if nothing truly substantial is added to Aliens FTE in the future. (I might end up regretting ordering the Deluxe version though!  :laugh:)

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    I've inherited a gaming laptop from my father in law so I will be looking to finally get Predator Hunting Grounds. I feel pretty late to the party and I suck even more at PC games than I do on consoles. But still looking forward to trying it out.

    Nice! That's awesome to hear!

    Predator: Hunting Grounds hasnt doing that well lately, last update was considered disappointing by the community and some people just came back to play for the day due to it then left cus nothing really interesting was added to the game but the ps free thing seems to have saved the game for a while. Numbers of people streaming it on twitch increased a lot, you get matches faster, full of new players that might stick for a while.

    In regards to the last update being disappointing to the community, I wouldn't view the regulars on Illfonic forums that seem to spam threads with inside clown gags and jungle hunter jokes rather than have decent conversations as the community. It drove a lot of good people out of those forums, including me. They're the loud, often annoying minority. :D

    We got an awesome DLC Cleo Predator to play as, awesome lore tapes recorded by actress Alice Braga herself, and bot support that will help longevity of the game when the game is no longer supported one day. (1v1 Hunt Private Matches? Oh yeah!) So a disappointing update? Not to me and my buds!

    In regards to saving the game. How many new maps and DLC have we received this year so far? So if they were not still running at a profit and rather a loss, Illfonic would stop with new updates immediately.

    And the playerbase on Playstation has always been there before PS-Plus this month. Roughly 20 second wait-times for playing as the Fireteam, and Predator wait-times vary 4-5min.

    However, I think there is a different perspective unfortunately for PC players as yourself than many of us on Playstation. We have crossplay turned off, because First Person Shooting on PC has an advantage. (I have it turned off myself most of the time). So the bulk of the playerbase stays away from you guys  :laugh: so you might be seeing this game in a lesser state than us Playstation players, the lionshare of the Predator: Hunting Grounds player base.

  30. Samhain13
    At this point the people I know that are still into AFE are the ones that want to max out all their classes or beat the game on insane. After that there won't be much to do until the next dlc comes out.

    Predator: Hunting Grounds hasnt doing that well lately, last update was considered disappointing by the community and some people just came back to play for the day due to it then left cus nothing really interesting was added to the game but the ps free thing seems to have saved the game for a while. Numbers of people streaming it on twitch increased a lot, you get matches faster, full of new players that might stick for a while.
  31. 426Buddy
    Yeah FTE isn't going to have a long life as an online game. Even with new levels it just isn't really sustainable without a pvp of some sort. It would have probably had a longer life if they hadn't shot themselves in the foot with the way matchmaking works thougg.

    And really if that's not in the cards then that's okay I guess. I know I've certainly got my money's worth already and I'm still enjoying it.

    I've inherited a gaming laptop from my father in law so I will be looking to finally get Predator Hunting Grounds. I feel pretty late to the party and I suck even more at PC games than I do on consoles. But still looking forward to trying it out.
  32. Voodoo Magic
    Does anyone have screenshots from inside the Stargazer base?

    It might not be today, but over the course of the next few days I can take some screenshots and post them here for you.
    That would be amazing!
    Thank you so much.

    You got it! It might be tonight!

    Still playing this a couple hours a day!

    Yeah, 18 months in and still as fun as heck, especially with the influx of new blood!

    Man they have to introduce some sort of PvP element to keep Aliens FTE alive. It hasn't even been a month and my buds already stopped playing
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