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Updated: “It’s The Ingenuity Of A Human Being Who Won’t Give Up” – Producers John Davis and John Fox Talk Predator 5 Details!

Despite being well into filming, the talk about Dan Trachtenberg’s Predator 5 has been practically non-existent! Now, the film’s producers John Davis and John Fox have broken the silence and dished some details with Collider!

According to Collider, the film will be known as Skull, dropping the plurality from the previous title, and will in fact be about the Predator’s first ever hunt on Earth (meaning that the Alien vs. Predator films will no longer be canon to the Predator films)! Though the duo didn’t go into specific details regarding the plot, Davis does compare it to the original Predator in regard to how Dutch had to use that Boy Scout bullshit.

“It goes back to what made the original Predator movie work. It’s the ingenuity of a human being who won’t give up, who’s able to observe and interpret, basically being able to beat a stronger, more powerful, well-armed force. It actually has more akin to The Revenant than it does any film in the Predator canon. You’ll know what I mean once you see it.”

 "It's The Ingenuity Of A Human Being Who Won't Give Up" - Producers John Davis and John Fox Talk Predator 5 Details!

“It’s the ingenuity of a human being who won’t give up, who’s able to observe and interpret, basically being able to beat a stronger, more powerful, well-armed force.”

Talking about Trachtenberg, Davis called his vision “completely unique” and even went on to state he thought Skull might even rival the original when it’s completed.

“It’s going to be, I believe, the second best — or the first… or it may be equal to the first one. Right? I feel like the first one was a wonderful, interesting movie and I know what worked about it. I feel like we kind of never got back there again. We ended up in different places. I think this is a worthy complement to the first one. It’s going to be as good.”

They also talked a little about the secrecy and circumstances regarding Skull’s development, revealing that the film is “probably three-quarters of the way through” production (the last we heard, filming is set to finish on the 28th of August). They also talked about the possible rating of the film, stating that it was conceived as an R-rating but worryingly “could easily end up PG-13.”

As far as the tone of the film goes, Davis said it “it all depends on how you end up cutting it, right? It was conceived as an R-rated movie. It could easily end up PG-13. I guess I’m going to find out what it has to be or what it is when it’s all cut together.”

Thanks to Whos_Nick for the tip! Keep your targets set on Alien vs. Predator Galaxy for all the latest Predator 5 news! You can also follow us on Facebook, Twitter, Instagram and YouTube to get the latest on your social media walls. Be sure to join in with fellow Alien and Predator fans on our forums as well!

Update 3rd August – Following this news, Dan Trachtenberg posted on Instagram a comment on how a film’s title while shooting is not necessarily going to be the film’s title on release. So those of you who had been hoping to see Skull(s) as the final title may be in for some disappointment.

Looking at this old picture of our slate from when we shot 10 Cloverfield Lane and thinking about how sometimes they report on a movie’s title, but it’s actually just the code name it is shooting under…

 

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  1. Local Trouble
    Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Aug 19, 2021, 12:56:17 PM
    Oy vey, just the gigantic mouth openings alone.

    We go from these open mouths....

    https://i.ibb.co/gZBXjgG/Screenshot-20210818-154447-You-Tube.png

    https://i.ibb.co/K9Nzy5b/Screenshot-20210818-154458-You-Tube.png

    ..to Crabators that can swallow watermelons whole. :-\

    https://i.ibb.co/NLn8D1G/proxy.jpg

    https://i.ibb.co/vmTVmfb/Screenshot-20210818-154944-You-Tube.png

    https://i.ibb.co/YTvDNtC/IMG-20210508-072404.jpg

    Their mandibles hang loose like sleeve of wizard.
  2. YOUNGBLOOD90
    @voodoo Magic, I'm glad someone agrees lol. Also those photos you shown really show how awful the later faces are. They look like knockoff Halloween masks in comparison to jungle hunter and city hunter. It's 2021 for Christ sake. Amalgamated Dynamics just seem to me to either be making these suits as cheap as possible, or frankly the talent just isn't as good as Stan Winston studios was. They keep reusing parts etc, rather than making something new.

    I just can't for the life of me figure how they keep getting the contract, when predator fans reception to their creations has largely been negative. Which imho effects the film drastically when the very creatures we love, look so unbelievably fake.
  3. Highland
    I think the Teeth and eye's add to the party, but if you put the AVP teeth and eyes on the original Predator it would still look good imo ( or at least not as bad).

    The flappy mouth and the armor bother me much more. I like the Hero head idea. It can be done!
  4. Voodoo Magic
    Quote from: YOUNGBLOOD90 on Aug 17, 2021, 03:02:39 PM
    Personally I really hope the look of the predator is similar to the predators in predator 2. That whole worn out copper armour that's battle damaged and been through the ages is where it should be at. I don't want this over the top squeaky clean tech on a predator either. It should look retro like they have been using it for hundreds of years. Also i want to see this predator wearing trophies. Let's just get back to basics guys, P1 and P2 laid the framework down on how all predators should look going forward, just respect Stans work, it's not difficult.

    https://c.tenor.com/z69H9usjXVYAAAAC/my-man.gif
  5. YOUNGBLOOD90
    Personally I really hope the look of the predator is similar to the predators in predator 2. That whole worn out copper armour that's battle damaged and been through the ages is where it should be at. I don't want this over the top squeaky clean tech on a predator either. It should look retro like they have been using it for hundreds of years. Also i want to see this predator wearing trophies. Let's just get back to basics guys, P1 and P2 laid the framework down on how all predators should look going forward, just respect Stans work, it's not difficult.
  6. The Shuriken
    Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Aug 15, 2021, 12:50:21 PM
    Quote from: Kradan on Aug 15, 2021, 08:38:15 AM
    To tell them their work is terrible ? They would fire you on the spot

    Okay, let's role-play.  :)

    You want to work in practical fx, you believe in yourself and your ability, and Alec invites you in for an interview. 

    During the interview, he puts the below gif on a screen and says.... "Kradan, what are your honest thoughts regarding this work? Bad or good, I want to know how you feel about it and what would you do differently if anything." How do you answer?

    https://i.ibb.co/hy7JxHF/20210318-195010.gif

    I would say:

    "Its not you fault that Paul Anderson wanted the Predators to look friendly and heroic. From that point any design was doomed to fail. Cute eyes and a horrific looking monstrous mouth are mutually exclusive. However I also feel the mouth was a little exaggerated in its proportions. The skin flaps are wrinkling too much. You have more animatronic movement in the mouth, which is impressive. But I think what should matter most is the form. If movement has to be sacrificed in order to just look good, that's what we should shoot for."
  7. SiL
    "I thought it was a mistake to try to make the Predator handsome. If possible, I'd try to limit the range of motion in the mandibles to prevent the skin over-stretching, or design two heads - one for closed to partially opened, one for opened to fully wide."
  8. [cancerblack]
    Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Aug 15, 2021, 12:50:21 PM
    Quote from: Kradan on Aug 15, 2021, 08:38:15 AM
    To tell them their work is terrible ? They would fire you on the spot

    Okay, let's role-play.  :)

    You want to work in practical fx, you believe in yourself and your ability, and Alec invites you in for an interview. 

    During the interview, he puts the below gif on a screen and says.... "Kradan, what are your honest thoughts regarding this work? Bad or good, I want to know how you feel about it and what would you do differently if anything." How do you answer?

    https://i.ibb.co/hy7JxHF/20210318-195010.gif

    "I have to be blunt, Alec. It's not good. I'm not going to blame you guys for what Anderson wanted with the eyes but you CAN'T be happy with that mouth meat."
  9. Huggs
    Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Aug 15, 2021, 12:50:21 PM
    Quote from: Kradan on Aug 15, 2021, 08:38:15 AM
    To tell them their work is terrible ? They would fire you on the spot

    Okay, let's role-play.  :)

    You want to work in practical fx, you believe in yourself and your ability, and Alec invites you in for an interview. 

    During the interview, he puts the below gif on a screen and says.... "Kradan, what are your honest thoughts regarding this work? Bad or good, I want to know how you feel about it and what would you do differently if anything." How do you answer?

    https://i.ibb.co/hy7JxHF/20210318-195010.gif

    I'd say he's had one too many face babies.
  10. Voodoo Magic
    Quote from: Kradan on Aug 15, 2021, 08:38:15 AM
    To tell them their work is terrible ? They would fire you on the spot

    Okay, let's role-play.  :)

    You want to work in practical fx, you believe in yourself and your ability, and Alec invites you in for an interview. 

    During the interview, he puts the below gif on a screen and says.... "Kradan, what are your honest thoughts regarding this work? Bad or good, I want to know how you feel about it and what would you do differently if anything." How do you answer?

    https://i.ibb.co/hy7JxHF/20210318-195010.gif
  11. Kradan
    You mean, uglier than usual ?


    Quote from: Master on Aug 12, 2021, 08:13:14 PM
    Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Aug 11, 2021, 02:24:33 PM
    Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Aug 11, 2021, 02:20:24 PM
    Quote from: Enjoy on Aug 07, 2021, 05:10:38 PM
    curious what predator will look like in this.. I hope it is a more natural look and design.

    From your lips to the Predator Gods ears!

    https://www.avpgalaxy.net/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/predator4-behind-026.jpg
    A hell, I wouldn't mind this head.

    Good man
  12. SiL
    Quote from: Highland on Aug 14, 2021, 04:01:27 AM
    Imagine we get an absolute kick ass film , best since Predator...then the final scene it takes it's mask off and it's the Father of Scar and Emissary Predators mixed together.

    Be like a blind date that's going brilliantly til you meet her at the pub and find out she's got mandibles.
    Honestly I'd be more forgiving of that design if it's a good film. If it's a bad movie that would be the mold on the turd, but if everything else is good it's just an ugly individual.
  13. Highland
    Imagine we get an absolute kick ass film , best since Predator...then the final scene it takes it's mask off and it's the Father of Scar and Emissary Predators mixed together.

    Be like a blind date that's going brilliantly til you meet her at the pub and find out she's got mandibles.
  14. Master
    Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Aug 12, 2021, 08:26:37 PM
    Quote from: Master on Aug 12, 2021, 08:13:14 PM
    Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Aug 11, 2021, 02:24:33 PM
    Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Aug 11, 2021, 02:20:24 PM
    Quote from: Enjoy on Aug 07, 2021, 05:10:38 PM
    curious what predator will look like in this.. I hope it is a more natural look and design.

    From your lips to the Predator Gods ears!

    https://www.avpgalaxy.net/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/predator4-behind-026.jpg
    A hell, I wouldn't mind this head.

    https://media.tenor.com/images/78e81757e90dc6044c4c307af556fc64/tenor.gif

    ;) j/k

    https://i.pinimg.com/originals/6d/b0/bf/6db0bfafc8ef8ed107ecd45a44e7f829.gif
  15. Voodoo Magic
    Quote from: Master on Aug 12, 2021, 08:13:14 PM
    Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Aug 11, 2021, 02:24:33 PM
    Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Aug 11, 2021, 02:20:24 PM
    Quote from: Enjoy on Aug 07, 2021, 05:10:38 PM
    curious what predator will look like in this.. I hope it is a more natural look and design.

    From your lips to the Predator Gods ears!

    https://www.avpgalaxy.net/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/predator4-behind-026.jpg
    A hell, I wouldn't mind this head.

    https://media.tenor.com/images/78e81757e90dc6044c4c307af556fc64/tenor.gif

    ;) j/k
  16. 426Buddy
    Personally I have a feeling that the director is going to have a specific vision for the predator, especially if there is only one in the film. I don't think they'll be reusing previous designs on this one.

    That doesn't mean that ADI will finally make a good predator though, I just don't think it will be like something we've seen already.

    I'll pray that they knock it out of the park, naive  though it may be.
  17. SuperiorIronman
    Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Aug 11, 2021, 02:24:33 PM
    Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Aug 11, 2021, 02:20:24 PM
    Quote from: Enjoy on Aug 07, 2021, 05:10:38 PM
    curious what predator will look like in this.. I hope it is a more natural look and design.

    From your lips to the Predator Gods ears!

    https://www.avpgalaxy.net/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/predator4-behind-026.jpg

    I wouldn't put it past them given they went unused and just have that sitting around. Probably will get retooled but given they do reuse leftover assets I have no reason to think they wouldn't. It's either that head or a retooled Fugitive. 
  18. Master
    Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Aug 06, 2021, 12:50:10 PM
    Quote from: Master on Aug 05, 2021, 03:13:50 PM
    Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Aug 05, 2021, 01:12:19 PM
    Quote from: Master on Aug 04, 2021, 07:41:49 PM
    I miss good old days when movies had numbers and subtitles.

    Oh how I longed for a...

    https://i.ibb.co/DbJj49k/IMG-20190222-221747.jpg


    The times I've spent in VHS rental, serching for Predator 3...
    Did I ever told you I'm working on my fan script?

    I believe you did!  Hopefully you'll feel inclined to share it with us all, once completed!  :)

    Don't worry, I will. I'm like sixty pages in and working on it daily ;)
  19. Proteus
    Quote from: Kradan on Aug 06, 2021, 02:19:30 PM
    Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Aug 05, 2021, 01:12:19 PM
    Oh how I longed for a...

    https://i.ibb.co/DbJj49k/IMG-20190222-221747.jpg

    Well, we would've get that ...

    Spoiler
    IF PREDATOR 2 WASN"T SUCH A FLOP !!!

    Spoiler
    please, don't kill me
    [close]
    [close]


    Quote from: Proteus on Aug 06, 2021, 02:14:22 PM
    Quote from: Eduardo Castro on Aug 06, 2021, 01:59:29 AM
    Please don't reveal to much on the trailer let's keep guessing like the original Predator

    Original trailer showed the whole movie and the Predator lol

    https://youtu.be/_1wDBNHYDv8

    So I've double-checked and you're technically not wrong. Thing is, we only get quick glimpses of it and Youtube wasn't a thing back in 1987

    Of course YouTube wasn't around then, but the point is that those who did see the original trailer in theater or commercial breaks were still treated to a significant amount of detail. Heck, for those who are old enough, trailers in the 80s gave away just as much of a film as trailers do now. The difference is, like you implied, you only saw the trailer if shown in theater or you caught it on TV. I, for one, tend to watch a teaser once and do everything I can to avoid trailers after. I went into all the new Star Wars blind of info. Just have to have a little restraint.
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