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Predator Conflicts, Returning Characters & Confusion, Reviewing Predator: Hunters 3 – AvP Galaxy Podcast #124

We have just uploaded the 124th episode of the Alien vs. Predator Galaxy Podcast (right-click and save as to download)! Corporal Hicks, RidgeTop, VoodooMagic and Xenomorphine are back to talk about Dark Horse Comics’ final Predator comic series, and the last in our beloved Hunters series!

 Predator Conflicts, Returning Characters & Confusion, Reviewing Predator: Hunters 3 – AvP Galaxy Podcast #124

We discuss the return of Brian Thies and Wes Dzioba to the visuals, our thoughts on the Predator dynamics, returning guest characters and plenty more!

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  1. Voodoo Magic

    Hmm. Wasn't the other Predator still wearing his bio-mask and it was raining? Sure it seemed to be mourning his friend/partner/parent/child ala Wolf in AvPR but it would be awfully silly to me if I learned that a) Predators cry and b) Predators could cry through their bio-masks. :-\

    Oh, I wasn't referring to human tears. And I don't remember that bit in AvPR, but the body language here appears more deliberate and intense than casual remorse. More specifically I'm referring to the consistent unique sounds it's making when Herrera approaches from behind, distinctly different than the sounds given to the one who was wounded and coughing.

    Then it doesn't even look back at Herrera when he approaches, and barely even reacts to ship that comes, though it's surely well aware of both; that just strikes me as so damn despondent.

    I may be off the mark, but personally the longer I look this is what I see, your mileage may vary, we have so little to go on.

    Oh, sorry about that, you meant the "haff" noises. Yeah, possibly, I can see one interpreting it that way as crying.

    For me, the Copper masked Predator was just stabbed with gauntlet blades and was bleeding,  plus whatever fire it took from the teams, so it making "haff" noises didn't seem to stray that far from the "kaff" and other various noises we heard wounded Predators make.

    https://i.ibb.co/F5B3MTN/IMG-20210321-122612.jpg

    So I still don't take that as weeping or crying, but rather possibly weasing or just breathing heavy, but that's just me. :)  But clearly he wasn't happy about doing the killing of his kin.

    And here's Wolf in AvPR taking a moment to mourn his fallen comrade:

    https://i.ibb.co/Sfc4Fng/20210321-102513-2-1.gif
  2. SpaceKase

    Hmm. Wasn't the other Predator still wearing his bio-mask and it was raining? Sure it seemed to be mourning his friend/partner/parent/child ala Wolf in AvPR but it would be awfully silly to me if I learned that a) Predators cry and b) Predators could cry through their bio-masks. :-\

    Oh, I wasn't referring to human tears. And I don't remember that bit in AvPR, but the body language here appears more deliberate and intense than casual remorse. More specifically I'm referring to the consistent unique sounds it's making when Herrera approaches from behind, distinctly different than the sounds given to the one who was wounded and coughing.

    Then it doesn't even look back at Herrera when he approaches, and barely even reacts to ship that comes, though it's surely well aware of both; that just strikes me as so damn despondent.

    I may be off the mark, but personally the longer I look this is what I see, your mileage may vary, we have so little to go on.
  3. Voodoo Magic
    I don’t know if you guys noticed but I saw something in this I’ve never seen in a predator comic before, a Yautja weeping.

     It wasn’t super clear to me until I stared at the panels for a while, but once it kills its hunt mate, it’s emotionally distraught and crying over what it just did, literally. Herrera witnesses this and shows compassion instead of killing it, and then when the rest of the fam shows up, the sad Yaut is lead away supported by its clan mate in heartbroken Rancor Keeper fashion.

    Hmm. Wasn't the other Predator still wearing his bio-mask and it was raining? Sure it seemed to be mourning his friend/partner/parent/child ala Wolf in AvPR but it would be awfully silly to me if I learned that a) Predators cry and b) Predators could cry through their bio-masks. :-\
  4. SpaceKase
    I don’t know if you guys noticed but I saw something in this I’ve never seen in a predator comic before, a Yautja weeping.

     It wasn’t super clear to me until I stared at the panels for a while, but once it kills its hunt mate, it’s emotionally distraught and crying over what it just did, literally. Herrera witnesses this and shows compassion instead of killing it, and then when the rest of the fam shows up, the sad Yaut is lead away supported by its clan mate in heartbroken Rancor Keeper fashion.

    I almost thought mother and child, but maybe space lover isn’t too far off the mark. Regardless, there’s a distinct deep and personal relationship there. Going back and just reading the pages with their story alone, few that there are, it almost seems like the silver masked one is an upstart undisciplined young blood joking around in the cave, relishing in the kill more than the hunt, more thrilled about gadgets than learning about tradition or technique. Willing to kill itself and everyone else after barely putting up a fight. Then ultimately, becoming the mentor’s greatest failure. Es possiblé.
  5. Kailem
    That translation fits entirely with what I figured was going on based on the context of that first scene. The one with the brown helmet was clearly pissed that the other one had killed someone who was unarmed, and that animosity continued for the rest of the story.

    Not entirely sure how a couple of stabs would have warranted the silver-masked one to try and do what he did at the end though, but the reasoning for them being pissed with each other at least I thought was pretty clear.
  6. SpaceKase
    Thanks for sharing that! Never seen it before. It is interesting seeing the Predator glyph writing rather than the digital language. And much appreciated for the podcast feedback.

    Always man, I love listening to you guys geek out. I hope to participate sometime, especially if it’s a comic or novel related video or audio round table or something. I just saw the cover art variants for Marvel’s new Predator series and they look really gorgeous, my cautious optimism is growing less cautious by the day.

    Also, check out Slice and Dice again, if you get the chance. Well worth it. Comedy gold.
  7. RidgeTop
    Thanks for sharing that! Never seen it before. It is interesting seeing the Predator glyph writing rather than the digital language. And much appreciated for the podcast feedback.
  8. SpaceKase
    What did you use as a translation key? I didn't see any matches with the digital font.

    That’s literally all the Yautja chat from Hunters III, just as spare as the rest of story.  The font they use is Blambot’s Xeno Tribal BB.  Its most egregious use is all throughout the 3rd chapter of Fire & Stone, the worst chapter in what would (in my opinion) otherwise be a completely awesome epic crossover. But like the interminable Life Day Wookiespeak from the Star Wars holiday special, it’s just endless streams of nonsense, making one wonder, why of why did anyone think this was a good idea?

    However, it’s used to Very good and hilarious effect in the AvP Judge Dredd crossover Slice and Dice. They had a lot of fun with that one and I may put the translation up here somewhere at some point.





    Yeah, I compared it to a few translators and it didn't line up either, so we'd love to see the translation key you're using SpaceKase. And we'll done! 👏

    Thanks man! Here’s a quick ref that I like to use, https://www.wfonts.com/sample-character/data/2016/01/03/xeno-tribal/XenoTribalBB.ttf.png
    It’s a transparent png so you may want to save it so you can zoom in. What I *really* want to find is the font for that language of the four-armed alien barbarian dudes from Kaus Borealis in F&S. But no dice yet.


  9. Voodoo Magic
    Yeah, I never have been bothered by it, personally. It can be fun for the fans to write messages in the way of the Yautja.

    Now seeing it translated on film this way is another matter entirely, and honestly something I wouldn't put past Fred & Dekker. But to be fair to those two, I don't recall them even doing this, i.e. the Upgrade Predator wasn't being translated one symbol per English letter.
  10. SiL
    I don't think anyone thinks that's what's actually happening, though. It's just a fun, easy way to write dialogue for Predators that's more than just mushing a keyboard.
  11. HuDaFuK
    Those translation keys are another of my Predator pet peeves.

    The idea their alphabet would somehow correspond exactly to the Latin one is just dumb in the extreme.

    Even staying on Earth, the Chinese alphabet doesn't directly correspond like that because it was developed completely independently.
  12. SpaceKase
    So yeah, a sad way to finish Dark Horse's Predator comics, and also not a good conclusion to the Hunters series. I hope this isn't the end, and that Marvel continues with a fourth volume for this series.

    I think the problem is this wasn't intended or written as an end... It's very much another part in a longer story that we wont see played out.

    I also think it was a disappointment, but only because of that. Because they'll be no further pay-off, so much so that most of what was done within the series feels pointless, I guess. We get these legacy characters back and nothing really of note seems to be done with them here, other than reintroductions. I'm not sure what the point of Herera being brought back was, because it didn't feel like much pay-off either.

    Completely agree re: the Predator interactions.
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    That said, I continue to really love Brian Thies artwork, especially with Wes Dzioba on colours. Probably a 6/10 for me. It wasn't awful, it just feels a bit wasted.

    Not sure if this helps the relationship interpretation but I did a little YauTrans on the few spoken interactions we got...


    Apologies to those listening at home for the fruity language.

    So... still just as ambiguous, but maybe relationship-wise I'd go with siblings or perhaps estranged father and son really failing at their family bonding hunt. Though perhaps not as bad as that Yaut dad and his teenage son Tristan from that College Humor short.
  13. Kailem
    A good podcast that pretty much covers everything there is to say. Can't really disagree with anything that was said. I still like it overall, but it's for sure the weakest of the three Hunters stories and it's a shame it didn't manage to stick the landing, both of this individual tale and also of Dark Horse's tenure with the Predator franchise as a whole.
  14. Corporal Hicks
    I just feel that the predator and alien will be overshadowed with whatever hero they have it pitted against. Do you think there will be original stories simply about alien and predator with no “hero”?

    While I'm sure the crossover is inevitable, we know Alien's debut series is solo, so I wouldn't worry about that just yet. I'm sure Predator's will be too once it's announced.

    Glad you enjoyed it :)
  15. GreybackElder
    Great job as always boys! I’m glad I wasn’t the only person who was a little confused when I finished Hunters 3. The confusing relationship between the predator hunters made me have to reread certain sections. I actually thought I missed a page or two but nope. I also felt the inclusion of detective Schafer was pointless and really lackluster. You guys definitely nailed it with the thought that perhaps this story was going to continue and this abrupt and lackluster ending was because of dark horse was finished with alien and predator. I hope the marvel entries hold up. I just feel that the predator and alien will be overshadowed with whatever hero they have it pitted against. Do you think there will be original stories simply about alien and predator with no “hero”?
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