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Titan Books ‘Aliens vs. Predator: Ultimate Prey’ Anthology Coming December 2021!

The AVP franchise is getting some more love in the form of its first anthology novel: Aliens vs. Predator: Ultimate Prey. The upcoming book was announced today by Writer/Editor Bryan Thomas Schmidt, who put together the Predator anthology book ‘If It Bleeds’, which we loved.

It’s rather appropriate that he’ll be partnering with Jonathan Maberry for this release, as he was the editor and wrote a story for the Aliens anthology ‘Bug Hunt’. Maberry also contributed to Predator: If It Bleeds. The editing duo will be putting together 15 stories that see the Aliens and Predator clash again.

As well as editing, Bryan Thomas Schmidt will be writing one of the stories, and Jonathan Maberry will be collaborating with Louis Ozawa Changchien for a story of theirs set after Predators. Louis Ozawa’s name jumped out at us as he was the actor who played ‘Hanzo’ in Predators.

 Titan Books 'Aliens vs. Predator: Ultimate Prey' Anthology Coming December 2021!
Here’s the full announcement courtesy of Bryan Thomas Schmidt:

I am pleased to announce my return to the world of my beloved Yautja movie universe. My seventeenth anthology as editor, and 4th for Titan will be my latest collaboration with Jonathan Maberry:

ALIENS VS PREDATOR: ULTIMATE PREY, Edited by Jonathan Maberry & Bryan Thomas Schmidt is a collection of all original stories that bring these two powerful franchises into collision. These stories will be more than bug hunts or monsters fighting one another. We’re amassing a slate of diverse writers who will elevate the themes to feature tales of racism, intolerance, culture clashes, and the horrors of war. Stories will run the gamut from intense psychological drama to nail-biting paranoid horror to humor to poignant tales of people and cultures caught in the grip of war.

Authors: David Barnett – Roshni “Rush” Bhatia – Maurice Broaddus – Curtis Chen – Delilah Dawson – Jess Landry – Jonathan Maberry & Louis Ozawa Changchien – Susanne Lambdin – Seanan McGuire – E.C. Myers – Yvonne Navarro – Chris Ryall – Bryan Thomas Schmidt – Steven Sears – Scott Sigler

15 new stories set in the movie universe, coming in December 2021 from Titan Books. It’s the one anthology fans have most been requesting and Jonathan and I have wanted to do it for 3 years, ever since he did Aliens: Bug Hunt and I did Predator: If It Bleeds, both for Titan, which were great successes.

These are studio approved tie-ins. We’ll reveal more details when the time comes but this exciting project has been fast tracked for quick release and we look forward to brining it to fans.

As stated in the announcement, a slew of writers will be involved here, including some returning franchise contributors such as:

  • Bryan Thomas Schmidt who edited Predator: If It Bleeds and co-wrote its ‘Drug War’ story
  • Jonathan Maberry who edited Aliens: Bug Hunt, wrote its ‘Deep Black’ story, and wrote ‘Gameworld’ for Predator: If It Bleeds
  • Seanan McGuire who wrote Alien: Echo
  • Yvonne Navarro who wrote Aliens: Music of the Spears and contributed to Aliens: Bug Hunt
  • Scott Sigler who recently wrote Aliens: Phalanx and the ‘Dangerous Prey’ story for Aliens: Bug Hunt

Bryan Thomas Schmidt has revealed to us that that Scott Sigler’s story here will be a sequel to Aliens: Phalanx!  We can’t wait to dive into this slate of stories late this year. Thanks to Bryan Thomas Schmidt for the news!

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  1. Marc505
    I won't go through each story but my favourites were:

    Hotel Mariposa. Ive already mentioned further up the thread but this was an early favourite of mine and stayed that way until the last few stories. I really loved the explanation for why the building behaved the way it did.

    Then Another Mother came along. I haven't read any other shorts set in Ataegina before and I really enjoyed the setting, the language and the people, from such a short story there was a real sense of "lived in" history there. I'd actually like to read a Predator only novel in that setting.

    But then my favourite of the entire book was saved until last, Kyodai. Again the setting was compelling as was the writing style it was quite unusual, elegant even. I know the ending probably wouldn't please everyone, but again it was unusual in a field where there can be a lot of similarity.

    Similarity is possibly one of the main criticisms I'd have of the book but I suppose there are fairly finite possibilities for squeezing AvP into a short story format. A couple of the stories were possibly a bit too heavy handed with themes in places, such as slavery etc and a couple ended with a bit of an anti-climax.

    Overall though I enjoyed it, and am just really happy books concerning these creatures are still coming out and that there's still a keen market for them.
  2. 426Buddy
    Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Apr 08, 2022, 07:22:06 AM
    Quote from: scottsigler on Apr 06, 2022, 02:46:48 PM
    Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Apr 05, 2022, 11:20:36 AM
    It was a solid read, but it did still stick to the usual AvP template so while I really enjoyed it, it wasn't in my overall favourites.

    It was a tough one to write. Getting a Yautja and a xenomorph together in that limited word-count was tricky (I'm pretty wordy to begin with).

    I completely understand. Don't get me wrong, I still really enjoyed it! There were just a lot of structurally similar shorts within the anthology, so it was those that were quite different that stuck out to me, especially when the majority of the book were of really good quality anyway.


    Quote from: 426Buddy on Apr 06, 2022, 03:06:31 PM
    Quote from: scottsigler on Apr 06, 2022, 02:46:48 PM
    I would have loved to have a full novel to develop that structure. Another full Ataegina novel probably ain't in the cards, though.

    That's a major bummer, I better hurry and pick this up so I can read the sequel story

    You should! One of my top 5 Alien novels of all time.

    Sorry I meant i need to pick this anthology up so I can read the sequel. I read Phalanx already when it came out, it was amazing
  3. Corporal Hicks
    Quote from: scottsigler on Apr 06, 2022, 02:46:48 PM
    Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Apr 05, 2022, 11:20:36 AM
    It was a solid read, but it did still stick to the usual AvP template so while I really enjoyed it, it wasn't in my overall favourites.

    It was a tough one to write. Getting a Yautja and a xenomorph together in that limited word-count was tricky (I'm pretty wordy to begin with).

    I completely understand. Don't get me wrong, I still really enjoyed it! There were just a lot of structurally similar shorts within the anthology, so it was those that were quite different that stuck out to me, especially when the majority of the book were of really good quality anyway.


    Quote from: 426Buddy on Apr 06, 2022, 03:06:31 PM
    Quote from: scottsigler on Apr 06, 2022, 02:46:48 PM
    I would have loved to have a full novel to develop that structure. Another full Ataegina novel probably ain't in the cards, though.

    That's a major bummer, I better hurry and pick this up so I can read the sequel story

    You should! One of my top 5 Alien novels of all time.
  4. scottsigler
    Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Apr 05, 2022, 11:20:36 AM
    It was a solid read, but it did still stick to the usual AvP template so while I really enjoyed it, it wasn't in my overall favourites.

    It was a tough one to write. Getting a Yautja and a xenomorph together in that limited word-count was tricky (I'm pretty wordy to begin with).


    Quote from: Adamantiumhip on Apr 05, 2022, 08:49:47 PM
    Scotts story as a sequel was worth it alone and wish it had been a full book

    I would have loved to have a full novel to develop that structure. Another full Ataegina novel probably ain't in the cards, though.
  5. Corporal Hicks
    Thoughts on the actual entire anthologies aside, of Maberry's shorts, there's not been a single one I didn't enjoy. Deep Black in Bug Hunt, Gameworld in If It Bleeds and Kyōdai (along with Louis Ozawa) in Ultimate Prey have all been really good in my opinion. Unless I misunderstand you there Adam. If you're talking entire anthologies, I do have to disagree with you there. 2 shorts I really dislike, 13 I enjoyed at varying levels. That's a thankful win to me.


    Quote from: HuDaFuK on Apr 05, 2022, 03:53:07 PM
    Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Apr 05, 2022, 11:20:36 AMI can see what HuDa is saying about the ones he enjoyed more in Bug Hunt tipping it over, but for me I think the majority of the shorts in this being actually good vs the poor-to-okay of the majority of Bug Hunt means as an over-all package I prefer Ultimate Prey over Bug Hunt.

    I think you misunderstood - I thought Ultimate Prey was the better book, I just liked a few of the Alien stories more :)

    Ahhh. That's fair. Yeeeaahh. I think I agree there. The shorts I loved in Bug Hunt, I loved more than the majority of the solid stories in Ultimate Prey. Too many shorts in Ultimate Prey, while good and enjoyable, were still following something of a typical template.
  6. Adamantiumhip
    Mayberry has been hit or miss with these stories. Some were dreadful, some good, one or two truly excellent and a few mediocre.

    Its better than bug hunt but i still felt disappointed.

    Scott Sigler and Mira Grant saved the day for me . Scotts story as a sequel was worth it alone and wish it had been a full book
  7. HuDaFuK
    Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Apr 05, 2022, 11:20:36 AMI can see what HuDa is saying about the ones he enjoyed more in Bug Hunt tipping it over, but for me I think the majority of the shorts in this being actually good vs the poor-to-okay of the majority of Bug Hunt means as an over-all package I prefer Ultimate Prey over Bug Hunt.

    I think you misunderstood - I thought Ultimate Prey was the better book, I just liked a few of the Alien stories more :)
  8. Xiggz456
    Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Apr 05, 2022, 11:20:36 AM
    So I finished the book last night, with Scylla and Charybdis, Another Mother and Kyōdai. Again, all solid reads. S&C is another one of those where I think the concept would work quite well in a longer form novel. I think it plays the surprise quite nicely. I can't disagree with HuDa regarding the abrupt ending, but I tend to find that an issue with shorts in general.

    It was great to see Sigler and his characters back with Another Mother. I loved seeing how the world had evolved since the end of Phalanx, and was particularly interested in the interactions with the Predator. It was a solid read, but it did still stick to the usual AvP template so while I really enjoyed it, it wasn't in my overall favourites.

    Kyōdai was brilliant. It broke from the template which works for me. As with Another Mother, I do love the sequels, and Predators is an entry that hasn't been taken advantage of enough so I particularly enjoyed returning to the hunting preserve. Loved the focus and depth on Eiji. The ending though...

    Spoiler
    I can see it being disliked. I'm not overly sure how I feel about it myself. But it was nice to see the Aliens demonstrated with intelligence. Not enough shorts in the anthology did that for my liking.
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    I'm working on my written review now. Of the 15 shorts, I disliked only 2. I can see what HuDa is saying about the ones he enjoyed more in Bug Hunt tipping it over, but for me I think the majority of the shorts in this being actually good vs the poor-to-okay of the majority of Bug Hunt means as an over-all package I prefer Ultimate Prey over Bug Hunt. I'm leaning in the 8 direction for Ultimate Prey, whereas I'd probably only got for a 5 or 6 for Bug Hunt (I need to do a proper review there).

    But realistically, I'm not going to sit and read an anthology through in one go going forwards. I always pick them up for the specific stories.

    My thoughts exactly when comparing to the other Anthologies. Looking forward to your written review and potential podcast. 
  9. Corporal Hicks
    So I finished the book last night, with Scylla and Charybdis, Another Mother and Kyōdai. Again, all solid reads. S&C is another one of those where I think the concept would work quite well in a longer form novel. I think it plays the surprise quite nicely. I can't disagree with HuDa regarding the abrupt ending, but I tend to find that an issue with shorts in general.

    It was great to see Sigler and his characters back with Another Mother. I loved seeing how the world had evolved since the end of Phalanx, and was particularly interested in the interactions with the Predator. It was a solid read, but it did still stick to the usual AvP template so while I really enjoyed it, it wasn't in my overall favourites.

    Kyōdai was brilliant. It broke from the template which works for me. As with Another Mother, I do love the sequels, and Predators is an entry that hasn't been taken advantage of enough so I particularly enjoyed returning to the hunting preserve. Loved the focus and depth on Eiji. The ending though...

    Spoiler
    I can see it being disliked. I'm not overly sure how I feel about it myself. But it was nice to see the Aliens demonstrated with intelligence. Not enough shorts in the anthology did that for my liking.
    [close]

    I'm working on my written review now. Of the 15 shorts, I disliked only 2. I can see what HuDa is saying about the ones he enjoyed more in Bug Hunt tipping it over, but for me I think the majority of the shorts in this being actually good vs the poor-to-okay of the majority of Bug Hunt means as an over-all package I prefer Ultimate Prey over Bug Hunt. I'm leaning in the 8 direction for Ultimate Prey, whereas I'd probably only got for a 5 or 6 for Bug Hunt (I need to do a proper review there).

    But realistically, I'm not going to sit and read an anthology through in one go going forwards. I always pick them up for the specific stories.
  10. HuDaFuK
    Having given it a few days to digest, I found this anthology to be more in line with Bug Hunt than If It Bleeds. By which I mean the stories ran the whole spectrum from excellent to awful. It certainly didn't meet the level of consistent quality found in If It Bleeds.

    I'd rank it above Bug Hunt though. Simply because it seemed to have far fewer bad stories than that did. Having said that, I think I liked the best Bug Hunt shorts more than pretty much anything in this one (although to be fair, that likely has more to do with me generally being a bigger fan of Alien than a reflection on the quality of the writing here).

    Another problem that I already touched upon is the fact a lot of these shorts felt kinda samey - people are somewhere, Predators and Aliens show up, they fight, Predators win, people move on. The backgrounds and specifics changed but otherwise a lot of the stories were remarkably similar. I haven't read them since they came out but I recall a lot more variety in both Bug Hunt and If It Bleeds. I guess there's only so much you can do when your key focus is on Aliens fighting Predators. Only Kyodai really seemed to mix the theme up any.

    Still, I don't wanna sound too down because I enjoyed this for the most part and I'm really glad we're getting more of these collections.
  11. HuDaFuK
    Just read the last two stories.

    Another Mother I found to be perhaps a little lacklustre, but that's solely because Phalanx was so exceptional. Mostly I think it was just because the novel was so immersive, taking so much time to build the world and characters, that this felt a bit lightweight in comparison. Still, it was cool to be back on Ataegina and it was a lot of fun seeing them meet the beasties from the other half of the franchise.

    To be honest, it's been a bit of a trend with these anthologies that the shorts serving as prequels/sequels to other stories have invariably disappointed me (while some have just been downright awful). Safe to say Kyōdai broke that trend. Possibly my favourite in the whole book. I loved the author(s)'s style. A bit like Isolation, I was worried that being based around Hanzō's brother would feel forced but it was worked in a way that totally made sense.
    Spoiler
    The shrine to Hanzō's defeat of Falconer was a great touch. I got a good laugh out of Eiji describing Hanzō as the "more emotional and more expressive" brother :laugh: I even liked that there wasn't technically any AVP action in this one - after 14 other stories featuring Aliens and Predators fighting each other it felt like a refreshing change. Even the ending worked for me, although I can see it being something people hate.
    [close]
    Top marks for this one.
  12. HuDaFuK
    Just finished Scylla and Charybdis. Other than my mild disappointment it wasn't somehow related to Into Charybdis, I enjoyed this one :) The Predator attack on the ship in particular was really well done, I thought. My only gripe is the ending felt really abrupt. I don't know if the author ran out of time or came up against a page limit but it seemed like it got wrapped up really quickly.
  13. HuDaFuK
    Polished off a few more.

    Better Luck to Borrow was probably the worst one yet. It reminded me in no small measure of that giant centipede story in the Bug Hunt anthology, which is about the worst official Alien story I've ever read. Tonally it was all over the place and the portrayal of the titular creatures, especially the Aliens, often completely missed the mark. Add to which it was loaded with what is seemingly a hallmark of bad Alien/Predator literature - awful dialogue. Just dire.

    Film School was refreshingly ace. Loved the set up, the location was vividly portrayed, some cool creep-out moments courtesy of the sonar scanning system the characters set up, and the way it started in media res and was told in first person really helped it stand out. (A lot of these stories, both good and bad, are suffering across the course of the book from being a bit samey in structure.)

    Night Doctors was a bit of a weird one in that despite having a few moments I hated (Hicks has already covered them above), overall I wound up loving the story. I guess it had so much going for it elsewhere I could overlook the faults. Special mention to the idea of researching Aliens to
    Spoiler
    develop a Chestburster "antidote". That was a really neat concept that actually made a lot of sense, compared to the tired old THEY COULD BE BIOWEAPONS! angle (which I couldn't help but notice the story itself took a little potshot at ;D).
    [close]
  14. Corporal Hicks
    I finished Night Doctors this morning.

    Spoiler
    I really enjoyed this right up until the very end where it went a little off the tracks for me. Think it was somewhat prescient with the whole hesitation towards the COVID vaccine, and from the black perspective as well. I've been listening to Fake Doctors, Real Friends with Donald Faison and it's something he talks about regarding hesitation towards the medical sector because of history that is mentioned in here too.

    I did quite like the mad scientist in this one. I thought she was particularly "fun" in how she was written. Loved the whole Alien vaccine thing too. That's something I've found myself toying with in my various attempts to actually finish writing a fan production, so I dug that.

    It lost me a little when you start having the main character talking out loud to the Queen, and seemingly being understood. Didn't dig that. So the last 2 or so pages just made me :-X Especially her just picking up that egg. Otherwise I quite enjoyed this one.
    [close]
  15. Marc505
    Life got in the way for a while so just picking up the pace again now. Half way through Scylla & Charybdis which I'm enjoying.

    Still broadly agree with the opinions above and Hotel Mariposa remains my favourite, I really don't mind AvP in earth/present day settings. Enjoyed the descriptions of the Predator in Abuse Interrupted too although it's noticeable how many of the stories focus on the Predator being female which I'm not sure is needed.

    A couple of less enjoyable ones but I don't really like doing writers down if I can help it. "You never go full Kenner" really made me laugh though 😆
  16. HuDaFuK
    I absolutely loved Hotel Mariposa and Planting and Harvest.

    Blood and Honour was awful and although I've only just started Better Luck to Borrow, irrespective of your review, I can already tell it's gonna be rough.

    Everything else so far I've found to be varying degrees of good.

    I will say though that Homestead and Abuse, Interrupted were both very well written, they just didn't grab me like Hotel and Planting did for whatever reason.
  17. HuDaFuK
    I'm only just over halfway through, but so far this antho is definitely recalling Bug Hunt more than If It Bleeds in the way the stories range from awful to great, with most falling somewhere in the middle, whereas If It Bleeds was almost universally great.
  18. Corporal Hicks
    I did indeed.


    Finished Film School.

    Spoiler
    I'm surprised at how much I enjoyed this one. Liked a lot of the framing of the story. The whole camera crew aspect reminded me of Aftermath, but without the unfortunate familial relation. The bug spray stuff was cool.
    [close]

    But like with a lot of the shorts, the Aliens do get a bit too steamrolled for my liking. The book leans a bit too heavily towards the Predators. I think the only ones that have made the Aliens a bit more formidable have been Top Secret and Hotel. But still not enough.

    Quote from: VN1X on Mar 26, 2022, 07:18:56 PM
    So is this something that comes recommended from the hive mind here then or skip altogether?

    I'm 11 shorts into 15 and so far I've only disliked 2, so we're leaning in the good direction.
  19. Corporal Hicks
    Finished a few more shorts over the weekend.

    Spoiler
    First Hunt - here's your futuristic AvP action piece. Love the concept of the infested human ship being used as a proving ground. I think there's legs in that setting alone and would have liked to have seen more of that aspect tbh. The handling of the acid was interesting - but wasn't a fan of the fast impregnation. I never will like that. Also wasn't keen on the Predator names. But all in all, another solid entry.

    Abuse, Interrupted - Really enjoyed this one. Yvonne redeemed herself from that awful short in Bug Hunt here. Very intense short. Action could have been a bit longer, but I really enjoyed it. Though I must say that part of me that hates the humanized female Predator wants to shake my fist at Illfonic for making the booby/female figure Predators canon.

    Better Luck To Borrow - Absolutely hated this. Down there with Blood and Honour. Some interesting bits with the chemicals but that was it. Silly premise. You never go full Kenner. And that bit with the Predator and the saw. Why??? So daft.
    [close]
  20. HuDaFuK
    As I said when I reviewed it myself, it felt to me as if much of the second half of that story was a first draft that never got the tidy-up it should've had. I thought the first half wasn't bad, but it just got increasingly ropey as it went on.
  21. Adamantiumhip
    Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Mar 22, 2022, 08:41:59 AM
    Finished Carbon Rites yesterday. Was a nice return to solid after Blood and Honor. Really enjoyed Rites. Nice twist on the

    Spoiler
    Earth setting. The easter eggs were handled well, I think, but could have done without the Berserker reference as I don't think it gells with the USM too well.
    [close]

    Man can you believe how bad the writing was in blood and honor?


    Spoiler
    she overheard the guy shes sleeping with wife discuss her  together and the wife tells him to kill her, and she just takes a drink from him seconds later?.
    [close]
  22. Corporal Hicks
    Finished Carbon Rites yesterday. Was a nice return to solid after Blood and Honor. Really enjoyed Rites. Nice twist on the

    Spoiler
    Earth setting. The easter eggs were handled well, I think, but could have done without the Berserker reference as I don't think it gells with the USM too well.
    [close]
  23. Adamantiumhip
    And back to mediocre. Well actually I'll say outright I think Blood and Honour was bad. Others were forgettable or in  Area 51 story or Mira Grants case good, but this was just bad.  Again a story picked it seems for political messages rather than quality. And it has one of the dumbest protagonist moments I have ever seen in any medium, just mind blowingly stupid.

  24. Adamantiumhip
    Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Mar 20, 2022, 12:58:42 PM
    Quote from: Adamantiumhip on Mar 20, 2022, 05:55:55 AM
    One big thing is I noticed avpgalaxy mentioned a lot, and how this book respects canon. Which makes me think, how much did avpg actually suggest or give feedback? Because theres already a huge issue I noticed that they must have as well being even bigger super fans. So im wondering if they noticed and just got ignored or didnt bring it up.

    First off, welcome to the boards! We had no say over plot or settings. We were just asked about continuity details and the like. It didn't always mean our responses had to be taken into account. As Hudson said - "don't ask me, man. I just work here."

    Hey there, I thought that might be the case! You are the most passionate fans Ive ever seen so I kind of suspected that if I thought of that you had too!

    I was just curious about it and in no way meant it to be bashing so please dont take it as that!


    Also Mira Grant came through, I thought her story was genuinely really good. I am a huge fan of hers, I am feeling more optimistic about it now. Theres only one story I would classify so far as mediocre, the rest all have their charms .
  25. RidgeTop
    Hey there, and welcome!

    Please don't forget to use the 'Spoiler' tag when talking about significant plot elements of a recently released book. It's the black and yellow circle in the text options.

    The book says it's "set in the expanded Aliens vs. Predators Universe." So take that to mean what you will in terms of being in line with canon.

    As Hicks explained we were asked about world-building elements in regards to continuity & some technical stuff about the Aliens and Predators, but that input wouldn't lead to any major shift in basic plot or setting.

    Quote from: Adamantiumhip on Mar 20, 2022, 05:55:55 AM
    Now every time an alien is on earth, be it in comics, games etc its a potential doomsday/apocalyptic event.

    Not always, thinking of AvP Eternal or AvP Sand Trap.

    Honestly I just imagine there being other cleaner Predators or a Government / Corporate group came in to clean up the mess in the Earth stories.

    Quote from: Adamantiumhip on Mar 20, 2022, 05:55:55 AM
    Im hoping a few stories can turn it from meh to good.

    The last two are among my favs in the book.
  26. Corporal Hicks
    Quote from: Adamantiumhip on Mar 20, 2022, 05:55:55 AM
    One big thing is I noticed avpgalaxy mentioned a lot, and how this book respects canon. Which makes me think, how much did avpg actually suggest or give feedback? Because theres already a huge issue I noticed that they must have as well being even bigger super fans. So im wondering if they noticed and just got ignored or didnt bring it up.

    First off, welcome to the boards! We had no say over plot or settings. We were just asked about continuity details and the like. It didn't always mean our responses had to be taken into account. As Hudson said - "don't ask me, man. I just work here."
  27. Adamantiumhip
    Hi guys, Im new here so sorry if this first topic is going to be controversial!

    Im talking about the recent anthology AVP Ultimate Prey. I already found Maberry's bug hunt anthology to be a big let down so Im sad to say this is continuing so far. In fairness I am only a few stories in so I will mention my thoughts on them. And it could easily end up getting better . Mira Grant is a favourite of mine and her story is next for me.

    One big thing is I noticed avpgalaxy mentioned a lot, and how this book respects canon. Which makes me think, how much did avpg actually suggest or give feedback? Because theres already a huge issue I noticed that they must have as well being even bigger super fans. So im wondering if they noticed and just got ignored or didnt bring it up.

    That is this...aliens vs predators on earth.  Now every time an alien is on earth,  be it in comics, games etc its a potential doomsday/apocalyptic event.  In avp the movie, the preds deliberately chose a real isolated continent  with which to build a temple, far from any civilisations . They are hunters, not careless to the point of causing mass extinctions. Yet this has them dropping alien eggs willy nilly all over the place.   With no regard or care.  In avp requiem they end up on earth through pure accident, and wolf has to clean up and destroy all evidence of both species. Yet the amount of people here who witness or survive alien encounters, as well as the frequencey it happens, means stargazer , weyland yutani and the government would have a lot more sites and info on the species than they do. They could basically not turn around without finding major incidents. The preds are sloppy where they drop prey and dont bother hiding their presence.

    Maberry is a decent writer but his stories tend to end up as tied up and work out in favour for the protagonists, which is a trope that carries on here for the most part and wonder if it was a conscious choice in stories chosen..

    My thoughts on the stories so far.

    Beyond top secret.  , this so far is probably the best. Its interesting that its in area 51, but again it see s to be inconsistent with the predator movies. Stargazer would be knowledgeable about predators already and maybe even aliens considering lexs staff in the last movie. But these seem totally unaware. But that said, it was solid otherwise.

    Isla mantanzas aka avpvslavetrade. This was so eye rolling i thought i had turned into the undertaker.  I find it hard to believe a powerful group of amazon warriors were caught and enslaved so easily, and not only that, easily defeated aliens even in shackles.  This was aliens as cannon fodder in a time before even decent weaponry existed and felt like an obvious political message, albeit one we can all agree with (slavery is bad, yes) over a decent story. Worst so far.

    Homestead was decent with an ok ending. But this was another one where preds seemed to drop eggs willy nilly with no regard. At least even the last story was isolated on an island even if it did make xenos look useless.  And the protagonist didnt see. Very likeable the way she didnt care at all about her dog. But otherwise ok.  Another solid story. But not very memorable

    And the hotel mariposa.  This was the most grievous for a predator giving no care for the surrounding area and leaving traces of themselves for centuries. There were some good ideas but a bit cheesy in the end. Not badly written, just not a good avp story because of the predators disregard for surroundings and an ending that tied things up for the survivor a little too nicely

    And all so far have felt extremely rushed especially the endings, though maybe that is to do with the format and possible space limitations. Im hoping a few stories can turn it from meh to good. The last few novels before this were really good (into charybdis , prototype and phalanx)  so maybe my expectations were too high

    What did you guys think? Interested in all opinions and views!

  28. Xiggz456
    Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Mar 19, 2022, 08:39:42 AM
    Quote from: HuDaFuK on Mar 13, 2022, 06:14:58 PM
    Currently reading Blood and Honor and I've actually felt the need to come on here and point out how much it's disappointing me. I thought it started really well but the longer it goes on the more I'm hating it. It's reminding me of the worst of the DH Press Alien books with how it's missing the mark on the titular creatures and the increasingly cringey dialogue. In fact the drop-off in quality from start to end almost gives me the impression whoever was responsible for tidying up the first draft ran out of time to do so.

    Just returned to Ultimate Prey after re-reading Turnabout/Rematch for a recording tonight. Literally just finished Blood and Honor too. Not much to say on this one. Wasn't a fan. Felt like a new fan trying to write fanfiction, overly relying on Xenopedia for terminology and etc. Also felt like the author was trying to do too much within a short story which contributed to that fanfiction feel. Really didn't like the nicknames given to the Predators. Didn't feel fluid at all.

    It was probably the weakest story of the lot and I agree that they tried to cram too much into such a short story.

    I got inspired to re-read "Phalanx" so I could immediately re-read its sequel "Another Mother" back to back. I forgot just how much I enjoy the world of Ataegina.
  29. Corporal Hicks
    Quote from: HuDaFuK on Mar 13, 2022, 06:14:58 PM
    Currently reading Blood and Honor and I've actually felt the need to come on here and point out how much it's disappointing me. I thought it started really well but the longer it goes on the more I'm hating it. It's reminding me of the worst of the DH Press Alien books with how it's missing the mark on the titular creatures and the increasingly cringey dialogue. In fact the drop-off in quality from start to end almost gives me the impression whoever was responsible for tidying up the first draft ran out of time to do so.

    Just returned to Ultimate Prey after re-reading Turnabout/Rematch for a recording tonight. Literally just finished Blood and Honor too. Not much to say on this one. Wasn't a fan. Felt like a new fan trying to write fanfiction, overly relying on Xenopedia for terminology and etc. Also felt like the author was trying to do too much within a short story which contributed to that fanfiction feel. Really didn't like the nicknames given to the Predators. Didn't feel fluid at all.
  30. Xiggz456
    Quote from: RidgeTop on Mar 15, 2022, 06:17:50 AM
    Quote from: EJA on Mar 14, 2022, 09:17:52 PM
    Do any of the stories utilize what was established in Prometheus and Alien: Covenant?

    Not really. Two of them were going to go with more black goo elements but we advised against it given the continuity was set to the AVP movie universe. But even those didn't really get into the lore of the prequels too much, just used their elements.

    Night Doctors kept a little with its reference of...

    Spoiler
    Plagiarus Praepotens. Which is linked to the black goo.
    [close]

    Also one of the stories mentions LV-223
  31. RidgeTop
    Quote from: EJA on Mar 14, 2022, 09:17:52 PM
    Do any of the stories utilize what was established in Prometheus and Alien: Covenant?

    Not really. Two of them were going to go with more black goo elements but we advised against it given the continuity was set to the AVP movie universe. But even those didn't really get into the lore of the prequels too much, just used their elements.

    Night Doctors kept a little with its reference of...

    Spoiler
    Plagiarus Praepotens. Which is linked to the black goo.
    [close]
  32. HuDaFuK
    Currently reading Blood and Honor and I've actually felt the need to come on here and point out how much it's disappointing me. I thought it started really well but the longer it goes on the more I'm hating it. It's reminding me of the worst of the DH Press Alien books with how it's missing the mark on the titular creatures and the increasingly cringey dialogue. In fact the drop-off in quality from start to end almost gives me the impression whoever was responsible for tidying up the first draft ran out of time to do so.
  33. Still Collating...
    No problem. I don't regret reading the stories, but when I think what I like about the franchises, there were missed opportunities. This anthology is far from bad, quite the opposite, but the contrivances were too much for me to ignore. I liked the stories in the separate anthologies more. Still, anthologies of short stories are a great idea for the EU and I welcome more future attempts.
  34. Xiggz456
    Just finished! Such a fun variety of stories here. Bryan Thomas Schmidt once again knocked it out the park and Jonathan Maberry redeemed himself after BugHunt.

    I absolutely loved both the variety of settings and timeframes of said settings. Which made me thankful that there's more than one timeline that allows there to be stories where Xenos aren't a recent creation but something much older.

    The last two entries were probably my favorite and were both sequels (to Phalanx and Predators) but all the stories were worth multiple reads. All in all I'd give this a 9/10 and would strongly recommend!
  35. Still Collating...
    Quote from: HuDaFuK on Mar 10, 2022, 03:53:54 PM
    Read Planting and Harvest today. Actually think I liked this almost as much as Mariposa. Just really well written, and I dug the black comedy regarding people dying as a result of the seemingly innocuous work they were doing on the station :laugh: I guess the complaints about the more subdued action are fair, but personally I feel like we've had a whole load of action-packed AVP stories, so I didn't mind this one downplaying that aspect.

    The world building was great but it felt like the story ended too fast, out of nowhere. And from her previous novel, I know she can write some good action, but literally skipping it the moment I thought things are about to get chaotic was quite a punch to the face. The reason I'm complaining about this is that the action was very poor IMO in most if the stories. Not described well and the aliens are shown to be a bit weak. I don't feel like the preds deserved all those wins. IMO the action was memorable in about 3 stories. Maybe it's not even the lack of well written action but the problem when a story introduces the action or sets it up but doesn't pay off like in Planting and Harvest.

    I read all the stories and I have mixed feelings about this. Overall I really enjoyed it, but a few details really annoyed me. Beware of spoilers cause I'm talking about the whole book.

    Spoiler
    Can't believe not one alien won against the predators in a single story and that so many of the predators survived. I think even the AVP movies made a more fair fight than that. Sometimes I loved the creative story settings, sometimes they felt really forced in. Like the author wanted to tell a different story but sprinkled some AVP on the surface so it fits the anthology. Still, some really worked for me like the activist/journalist one where they were trying to uncover a WY coverup.

    I really didn't appreciate most of the present day stories. Just feels off. Scotts story was great, but it became a bit too easy for the gang to destroy the aliens. In Phalanx you feel the fear that these creatures created for the people. But a pred that never hunted aliens ever was destroying them with no problem. Only two Praetorians/Hive Guards are a problem and they're killed in a few seconds! The predator didn't use this story's OP plasma caster on the Queen just for the sake of a challenge. And after loosing so much blood (again stated, not shown in hard fights much) I thought we're finally gonna have a main predator that dies, but no... So yeah, that annoyed me. Scott still writes great stories and characters but he wasn't really fair to the alien side and therefore the story felt like it didn't have any real stakes or tension.

    And no predalien, not a single one! Come on....

    Some stories were a bit too predictable. More than the previous two anthologies.
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    Still. almost all of the stories had memorable settings. To me, there were hit and misses, but I applaud the effort. I really appreciate the bravery and creative freedom to try new things. This is an overall win. I wish that next time in addition to the new settings (just no more present day avp please) they try new core narratives and new story conclusions. Soon I might write in more detail to highlight what specific stories I really liked.
  36. Marc505
    I agree with much of the above, sometimes quite low key or downplayed action now and again in these stories works well for me.

    What I'm finding if I read 2 or 3 AvP shorts from different authors in one sitting is that there's only so many ways you can describe a first encounter with one of the creatures, or a battle between them, before it starts to lose its effect so any variation on the theme is great.

    I'm up to First Hunt now which I'm looking forward to, but I'm also already looking forward to going back and reading through everything again when I finish the book which shows they all have something good and interesting to offer.
  37. HuDaFuK
    Read Planting and Harvest today. Actually think I liked this almost as much as Mariposa. Just really well written, and I dug the black comedy regarding people dying as a result of the seemingly innocuous work they were doing on the station :laugh: I guess the complaints about the more subdued action are fair, but personally I feel like we've had a whole load of action-packed AVP stories, so I didn't mind this one downplaying that aspect.
  38. Still Collating...
    I found her story very disappointing cause I had higher hopes knowing how much I liked her novel. The world building was really great, but the lack of actual action and its poor portrayal was really shocking. Also the scene changes feel a bit choppy and sudden to me. 
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