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Dan Trachtenberg’s Talks Predator 5 Development & Announcement Disappointment

Last Friday saw the announcement that director Dan Trachtenberg was developing a fifth Predator film. And given what Alien vs. Predator Galaxy knows of the plot (exclusive details here), we’re pretty excited about the upcoming film! It turns out Dan Trachtenberg wasn’t as excited about the reveal as the Predator fandom, though. It sounds like a much more elaborate marketing campaign was planned for the film.

Given what we noticed about Trachtenberg’s previously announced Skulls, it’s sounds likely that there was a campaign planned around revealing that Skulls was actually Predator 5. How do you feel about those types of advertising campaigns? Is that something you feel we have missed out on with Predator 5?

Also of note was the revelation that Trachtenberg has been working on this project since 2016, around the same time that Shane Black and Fred Dekker were working on The Predator.

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  1. Mr.Turok
    So I was doing some research for a project I am working on and I came across the only recorded female warrior chief of a native tribe (so far discovered), Running Eagle of the Piegan Blackfoot Indian. If you guys want an idea of how badass the lead for the new movie can be, I'd recommend checking out this article. The article has a lot of high school dick jokey humor, but its the staple of Ben Thompson who writes these articles and books for his website. 

    https://www.badassoftheweek.com/runningeagle

    For those who want a clean humorless read:

    https://web.archive.org/web/20170114022132/https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Running_Eagle

    Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Dec 17, 2020, 01:55:00 PM
    I was about to say that, among genre fans it was well received, and also among general audiences.

    Really? I recall many people, including some here although I don't remember who,  that it fell flat on the beginning as a B movie until decades later it was seen as something gold.
  2. Voodoo Magic
    Quote from: Mr.Turok on Dec 17, 2020, 04:48:51 AM
    If its just you not liking the game and the lore it brings, that's fine man, you can ignore Hunting Grounds as I ignore Dark Fate.

    Yeah, Dark Fate doesn't exist in my dojo either. :)

    QuoteJohnny Depp wasn't a big name when he was casted in Nightmare on Elm Street 2 until years later.

    Yeah Depp wasn't even the lead in Nightmare of Elm Street but that film didn't make him big either. Neither did his stint in Platoon. It wasn't until his starring role in the television series 21 Jump Street did he become a star and a pinup for young teenage girls everywhere.

    QuoteSo was Linda Hamilton and Arnold Schwarzenegger in Terminator with now both names being synonyms to the franchise.

    Quote from: Mr.Turok on Dec 17, 2020, 06:28:00 AM
    Quote from: SiL on Dec 17, 2020, 05:08:06 AM
    Johnny Depp was in the first one and Arnie had done Conan.
    Right, right, my bad! I could have sworn Depp was in the second one but I have seen the first two films only once though so yeah just a fuzzy memory.

    Yeah Arnie had done two Conan films before The Terminator, but even more movies before that. Arnold even won a Golden Globe (can you believe it!) for his role in Stay Hungry with Jeff Bridges and Sally Field. But he was already world famous for bodybuilding before that. With his charisma alone he garnered a huge spotlight on what was previously thought of an odd sporting competition.

    For Linda, The Terminator was indeed big for her. Terminator 2, even bigger.  Another good example would be Sigourney Weaver and Alien.  :)

    QuoteIf the movie delivers good and the actors do a good job than people will come. Never underestimate the power of word by mouth.

    Plus in slasher / horror films, the draw usually is never the actors being chased. It's about the horror and its villian.  :)

    QuoteLets also not forget that Predator was considered a trash film back in the day until years later people realized that this film was gold

    I don't think this is an accurate description of what went down in 1987. It likely applies more to Predator 2 to some degree.
  3. Mr.Turok
    Quote from: Master on Dec 16, 2020, 05:22:35 AM
    I'm not diminishing games nor do I intend to.  Instead of arguing who's right I'll give an example.

    There was once a super popular SW game series called Dark Forces and it's mane character Kyle Katarn was one of the most important characters out of the movie spectrum. It was so popular it had impact on whole universe and books were written that gave it's characters further life. But the Disney came and all of the sudden whole set up  and it's characters are no longer canon. I see bits of it recycled and
    implemented in other new SW media, but as much as it personally hurts me none of it matters anymore.

    That was an unfortunate decision Disney has done  but this doesn't change the fact that at the time it was canon, simple as that.

    By that logic, you can't even say only go by films as canon as films aren't immune to removal of canon, as we see Terminator has done this to their past movies with their constant reboots, as Dark Fate is the true canon. (Although I elect to ignore that decision) Ridley Scott ignored the AVP series and continue off with Alien his own way. Colonial Marines was canon until they made the wise decision to remove it with the exception of some materials, as it was canned by both critics, causal gamers, and fans universally.

    Until Fox and Disney says Hunting Grounds isn't canon anymore, than it's canon. The big dogs declare it, and since its great material/lore for the Predator series, I'm not disagreeing with this anytime soon. If its just you not liking the game and the lore it brings, that's fine man, you can ignore Hunting Grounds as I ignore Dark Fate.

    Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Dec 16, 2020, 11:00:25 AM
    Including not only native actors would probably attract more people to see it, so it's probably a safer bet. I would totally dig an all native cast, but that seems unlikely.

    Well there are some factors that can help take care with that.

    Johnny Depp wasn't a big name when he was casted in Nightmare on Elm Street 2 until years later. So was Linda Hamilton and Arnold Schwarzenegger in Terminator with now both names being synonyms to the franchise. If the movie delivers good and the actors do a good job than people will come. Never underestimate the power of word by mouth.

    With culture politics being a thing these days, having a full on native cast will be too much to not ignore these days. People went crazy for Black Panther, Apocalypto is a great film with an all star native/hispanic cast, and the demand for stars of various backgrounds is high these days.

    Lets also not forget that Predator was considered a trash film back in the day until years later people realized that this film was gold so I don't think something like people not digging an all native cast will stop this film. Internationally? I can see China not taking it so well, seeing to how they removed Finn from the Star Wars posters but other than that, I don't know.
  4. Wysps
    Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Dec 16, 2020, 06:33:49 PM
    Seeing as "Skulls" is apparently being described as having a "pre-colonial" setting, I would imagine that this film will feature a solely indigenous cast.

    I'd like to know if pre-colonial means prior to the establishment of governments by the Spanish , the States, or pre-contact altogether. It could still be considered pre-colonial, even with the presence of Spanish "explorers/mappers" since a colony wouldn't have been established or taken root. I'd love for the horses to make it into the movie, but without the presence of the Spanish that would be impossible  :'(
  5. BigDaddyJohn
    Quote from: Fiendishly Inventive on Dec 16, 2020, 06:22:05 PM
    Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Dec 16, 2020, 11:00:25 AM
    Including not only native actors would probably attract more people to see it, so it's probably a safer bet. I would totally dig an all native cast, but that seems unlikely.

    R' u' avin' a giggle M8?

    Disney would be flayed alive, but you're right about something marketing this to a Chinese audience woul be a nightmare, here's hoping they don't bother.

    Flayed alive, if they casted only natives or if they didn't ?
  6. Voodoo Magic
    Quote from: HuDaFuK on Dec 16, 2020, 01:39:17 PM
    Dances with Predator

    Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Dec 16, 2020, 01:38:51 PMI don't necessarily agree with this, at least here currently in the United States thankfully.

    I feel like you're giving far too much credit to American audiences.

    When we're talking film and television, being the age that I am, raised on watching the Cosby Show in the 1980s with an entire African American cast which was the #1 Television Show in all of America for 5 consecutive years, to where we are now, overall, I've seen the progress and success that somehow now in the past few years, some want to present that American Audiences have gone somehow backwards in the past 5-10 years, and thankfully, I personally 100% unequivocally and happily feel that with this is not the case with the vast, vast majority. If it looks good, they will watch it.  I think the current problem is film studios playcating to what they feel other international markets will feel about casting, like China.
  7. Master
    Quote from: Mr.Turok on Dec 15, 2020, 01:21:30 AM
    Quote from: Master on Dec 14, 2020, 11:16:52 PM
    Sorry to break your parade guys but who'll remember what happened in some game in 10 years?

    Doesn't change the fact that its canon. Not to mention what a great way to trash the media form of videogames. I can tell ya that there are some great games out there that is higher than some trash films we have currently.

    Quote from: Master on Dec 14, 2020, 11:16:52 PM
    Unless any of it is acknowledged in one of new films, it's  just flavor material in game tie-in of  movie franchise and will always remain as such.

    Flawed logic. If the worth of lore and story is only worth it in film form, than most of the Predator series would be largely underappreciated.

    Normies and regular movie goers won't know what is going on with Predator, or even have a strong gravitation to Predator seeing how Star Wars and Marvel movies have the strong attention of general audiences. Only us fans will truly know what's going on within the universe. How many people do you think even realize or even care about how The Predator affect the lore other than being just a terrible movie to follow?

    Older generations will appreciate the films for what it is as it was released during their time but from that group its also general audiences that can look back at the first Predator only as a great film, with a great handful of hardcore older fans actually be in touch in the film and it's universe. Many dismiss The Predator, many don't remember what is the plot of Predators, Predator 2 is contestant but now generally aged well with many fans, its only Predator where I can bring this up to any other person in say the workplace and their general response is either they seen it once or twice, know family or friend that seen it before and told them about it, remember seeing it back when they were a teenager, or have the recent Blu-ray copy on the shelf.

    Why do you think many of us were delighted in seeing this new Predator film to come out so soon? We thought it was over, forgotten over other better films until the next 10 years after the disaster of the last one. Thats why many of us are hopeful this new movie will succeed and have some strong form of presence in the minds of the general media. I do want this film to succeed and see many people enjoy these series as much as I do.

    I'm not diminishing games nor do I intend to.  Instead of arguing who's right I'll give an example.

    There was once a super popular SW game series called Dark Forces and it's mane character Kyle Katarn was one of the most important characters out of the movie spectrum. It was so popular it had impact on whole universe and books were written that gave it's characters further life. But the Disney came and all of the sudden whole set up  and it's characters are no longer canon. I see bits of it recycled and
    implemented in other new SW media, but as much as it personally hurts me none of it matters anymore.
  8. MudButt
    Yes. With the rumored Civil War setting you can really have some great development and banter between characters. Especially if they include a mix of American and Native American characters. You can have fun with enemies having to work together to survive.
  9. Hollywood
    Quote from: MudButt on Dec 15, 2020, 05:00:11 PM
    The Predator had a fun cast but they were more or less wasted..  hoping they pull some really good talent.

    Totally agree. Not only was the cast sort of wasted but so was the interesting setup of having a group of soldiers who were unstable in one way or another face off against the Predator.

    I'm really hoping this new script introduces cool characters we can get to know.
  10. MudButt
    I imagine they'll announce the lead(s) in the next few months. Really hoping for some great talent.

    The Predator had a fun cast but they were more or less wasted..  hoping they pull some really good talent.
  11. Voodoo Magic
    Quote from: Wysps on Dec 15, 2020, 04:19:19 PM
    I see the canon wars have made their way into this thread.

    I haven't listened to the podcast yet, but my understanding is that they're still in the script phase? Would they move on to casting before that's been completed, or are they really that far along into the project?

    While Trachtenberg has been developing this film since 2016, Patrick Aison was hired to write the script in 2019:

    https://discussingfilm.net/2019/12/11/dan-trachtenberg-set-to-direct-skulls-for-fox-disney-exclusive/

    So it wouldn't be out of the ordinary to start hearing casting news early 2021 I think.  :)

    QuoteIf we're setting Predator movies in the past, it would be interesting to see them work their way up to the flintlock pistol.

    I so would love this!!
  12. Wysps
    I see the canon wars have made their way into this thread.

    I haven't listened to the podcast yet, but my understanding is that they're still in the script phase? Would they move on to casting before that's been completed, or are they really that far along into the project?

    If we're setting Predator movies in the past, it would be interesting to see them work their way up to the flintlock pistol.
  13. MudButt
    First post in awhile but dang I am excited for this. Loved 10 Cloverfield Lane and love the idea for the setting of this movie. Here's hoping we get something really special!  ;D
  14. Xiggz456
    Quote from: Master on Dec 14, 2020, 11:16:52 PM
    Sorry to break your parade guys but who'll remember what happened in some game in 10 years? Unless any of it is acknowledged in one of new films, it's  just flavour material in game tie-in of  movie franchise and will always remain as such.

    Plenty of us seem to remember the first Predator comic series that came out 30 years ago (you know the one that influenced Predator 2)  so I find it likely that we'll also remember Arnold Schwarzenegger reprising his role as Dutch in Hunting Grounds in 10 years.
  15. Mr.Turok
    Quote from: Master on Dec 14, 2020, 11:16:52 PM
    Sorry to break your parade guys but who'll remember what happened in some game in 10 years?

    Doesn't change the fact that its canon. Not to mention what a great way to trash the media form of videogames. I can tell ya that there are some great games out there that is higher than some trash films we have currently.

    Quote from: Master on Dec 14, 2020, 11:16:52 PM
    Unless any of it is acknowledged in one of new films, it's  just flavor material in game tie-in of  movie franchise and will always remain as such.

    Flawed logic. If the worth of lore and story is only worth it in film form, than most of the Predator series would be largely underappreciated.

    Normies and regular movie goers won't know what is going on with Predator, or even have a strong gravitation to Predator seeing how Star Wars and Marvel movies have the strong attention of general audiences. Only us fans will truly know what's going on within the universe. How many people do you think even realize or even care about how The Predator affect the lore other than being just a terrible movie to follow?

    Older generations will appreciate the films for what it is as it was released during their time but from that group its also general audiences that can look back at the first Predator only as a great film, with a great handful of hardcore older fans actually be in touch in the film and it's universe. Many dismiss The Predator, many don't remember what is the plot of Predators, Predator 2 is contestant but now generally aged well with many fans, its only Predator where I can bring this up to any other person in say the workplace and their general response is either they seen it once or twice, know family or friend that seen it before and told them about it, remember seeing it back when they were a teenager, or have the recent Blu-ray copy on the shelf.

    Why do you think many of us were delighted in seeing this new Predator film to come out so soon? We thought it was over, forgotten over other better films until the next 10 years after the disaster of the last one. Thats why many of us are hopeful this new movie will succeed and have some strong form of presence in the minds of the general media. I do want this film to succeed and see many people enjoy these series as much as I do.
  16. Voodoo Magic
    I think Predator Hunting Grounds' canonical lore will have a little more weight and shelf life than most video game fare, specifically when it comes to Dutch, because 1. the well written lore is voiced by the franchise's biggest star himself Arnold Schwarzenegger and 2. is lore also supported by Titan's novel Predator: Stalking Shadows.

    Movies can overwrite the lore established in Predator Hunting Grounds and Alien Isolation anytime they want, it's canon until it isn't, but until they do, I say let's enjoy it. :)
  17. Master
    Sorry to break your parade guys but who'll remember what happened in some game in 10 years? Unless any of it is acknowledged in one of new films, it's  just flavour material in game tie-in of  movie franchise and will always remain as such.
  18. SuperiorIronman
    The only things that aren't canon would be the specific makeups for Fireteam and what Predator was around (if one showed at all) as well as who won what engagement. It's all decided by the players so until something concrete comes up we don't know who won the mission "fools gold" for example. Flavor text would also be canon but where the item or character appears is debatable. Dutch's rifle I believe he lost in the original film. It's usable in Hunting Grounds but Dutch canonically loses his rifle in 87. City Hunter is long dead, but because a Predator is present then City Hunter simply fills the role even if he's canonically worm food.

    Lore tapes would be concrete lore. So Dutch is around in 2025 pulling a Hunter Borgia.
  19. Mr.Turok
    Quote from: Master on Dec 14, 2020, 07:02:42 AM
    As Canon as Colonial Marines  ::) Look I get it you like some flavour material from from the game and it's fine by me. I like AvP Arcade, but don't go around and say it's Canon. Movies are Canon  nothing else and you'll find guys debating it here all the time.

    Fox consider Hunting Grounds canon. Colonial Marines have been discredited by both fans and the big guys at Fox. Only the cool stuff like the plasma rifle and the new alien breeds is canon, as verified  by franchise consultant Andrew E Gaska from one of the interviews the fellas here did on the podcast: https://www.avpgalaxy.net/2020/09/30/barroom-canon-deep-lore-unpredictability-talking-alien-rpg-with-writer-franchise-consultant-andrew-gaska-avp-galaxy-podcast-116/

    I go by the license holders and the folks at Fox, so if they said its canon, then it is. Glad they decided that Colonial Marines is a mistake and took the canon pass back lol.

  20. Voodoo Magic
    In early 2021, I really need to remember to convert the Keyes recordings, the Dutch tapes and hopefully the Isabelle recordings, all into separate mp3 files where fans can download and play them like podcasts or audiobooks as often as they want.
  21. Xiggz456
    Hunting Grounds is canon according to the license holders but if you don't subscribe that's fine no one is forcing you. But bringing Arnold back for Dutch makes it extremely likely that it will remain canon. Just like the one video game that brought Sigourney back (Isolation) is still considered canon.
  22. Master
    As Canon as Colonial Marines  ::) Look I get it you like some flavour material from from the game and it's fine by me. I like AvP Arcade, but don't go around and say it's Canon. Movies are Canon  nothing else and you'll find guys debating it here all the time.
  23. Mr.Turok
    Quote from: SiL on Dec 14, 2020, 01:17:45 AM
    Where are you getting that City Hunter is 200-300 years old and a teen? ???

    Predator Hunting Grounds, more specifically the OWLF Tapes. The specific tape is called, Agent Keyes-10 Technological Finds. It does confirm something interesting, like people mentioned before, various clans have their own ways of initiating  young bloods into their ranks. Isolated Tribe requires hunting xenomorphs and marking themselves with the blood of their kill while with the Lost Tribe, its something else entirely.



    Give it a good listen if you haven't yet. Oh and if you don't know yet, yes this game is canon.
  24. Mr.Turok
    Quote from: [cancerblack] on Dec 12, 2020, 10:23:00 PM
    Not buying it, sorry.

    Ok, I'll address this one more time, this was a huge exaggeration/hyperbole, I simply wanted to address my point of seeing more better fights with Predators. I honestly don't know how long they live, only that they are biologically long lived, seeing how Dutch had stopped aging and how City Hunter is around 200-300 years old and considered a teen. Hell, no other expanded media even mentions the limit of their lifespan. I just expect more display of skill from a warrior-hunter that has tons of hunting experience after centuries of combat. If I knew that somehow this would trigger people, I would have edit this long ago.....

    If you really want to know my thoughts on it, I can see one live to around in the ten thousands. Alien biology man, I don't know, its up for debate but again, wasn't even thinking about going in a tangent here. But going back to the movie......

    ___________________________________________________

    One thing I do hope I get to see is in this movie, is another unique Predator. I see in expanded media and even in movies that Predator designs try to get back to Jungle Hunter's design. Crucified is one, the Isolated Clan from AVP has some of that, the regular classes of Hunting Grounds nods at the old design. I know its iconic but I still want more unique appearances like how City Hunter is. I don't want them too uniform.

  25. Kradan
    Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Dec 11, 2020, 01:42:32 PM
    Quote from: Kradan on Dec 11, 2020, 06:00:08 AM
    Well, I guess I have lower standarts, because I don't find any of these terrible

    No brother. No one said that!  Ultimately, beauty is in the eye of the beholder. You don't think I have lower standards because I like a certain loathed movie, do you?

    https://i.ibb.co/h2tcRPQ/Screenshot-20201211-072147-Chrome.jpg

    Do you??

      ;);D

    I like The Predator

    Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Jul 12, 2020, 04:01:59 PM
    And then when someone asks "Who here loves The Predator 2018?", then it's your turn!

    :'(
  26. [cancerblack]
    Yeah, a lifespan of a few hundred years is in evidence, and not completely unreasonable. "They live until something kills them" feels like asking a lot from a creature so similar to complex earth life in all other regards.
  27. [cancerblack]
    Quote from: Mr.Turok on Dec 12, 2020, 06:20:48 PM
    Quote from: [cancerblack] on Dec 12, 2020, 11:05:43 AM
    Quote from: Mr.Turok on Dec 12, 2020, 04:52:04 AM
    They're hunter-warriors that can live for hundreds of thousands of years

    Excuse me, what the f**k?

    I'm trying to say that they're immortal biologically wise. Very long lived until they are killed by something, didn't think I had to explain that. Unless there something that I missed on their lifespan. For now, I'm just talking about showing more fighting prowess on Predator action on screen ok.

    Not buying it, sorry.
  28. Sol
    With Marvel now helming future EU material (at least with regards to comics and graphic novels), we will get a more structured EU moving forward. I'm looking forward to it.
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