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Marvel Celebrates Alien Series With Marvel Vs Aliens Variant Covers!

Though we’re still awaiting information on Marvel’s first Alien/vs/Predator comic series currently due for release in April, Marvel is celebrating their acquisition of the Alien license with some variant covers featuring the Alien going up against various Marvel characters for January’s issues!

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Marvel has been known to celebrate their new titles with mass themed variant cover art like this before. A recent event like this that jumps to mind for me being when The Amazing Mary Jane launched in 2019. Thanks to Lee Asbury on the Weyland-Yutani Bulletin for the news.

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  1. Perfect-Organism
    Maybe when people think about "good, old Marvel" Captain America fighting Hitler isn't the first thing that comes to their minds ?

    That doesn't mean it didn't exist. Just like how the politics that were there in the movies these people watched as kids always existed, even if they didn't pick up on it.

    Also, who is that Bucky guy is ? Marvel's version of Robin ?

    Bucky, in his original inception, was a child soldier (gee, nothing political about that!) who is an ace sniper working alongside Cap during WWII. He eventually gets killed, and stays that way for decades, until the 2000s when Brubaker brought him back as The Winter Soldier to tell another incredibly political story.

    Nothing wrong with Marvel being anti-Hitler, or anti-Nazi.  I think we can agree on that.

    Just caught up to reading Hicks’s post.  Ok stepping off the political bandwagon.

    Really looking forward to the first Marvel series one way of another.
  2. Corporal Hicks
    This isn't the place for that real-world discussion. The point is Alien and Marvel have always been political and provide social commentary, regardless of whether or not you saw it without it being pointed out to you.
  3. Nightmare Asylum
    True but instead of looking at the bad ones look at all the cops that arnt killing people. We tend to focus on the negatives even if that's the minority. Think about all the black people that weren't shot that day instead of the one that was. Their are asshole cops but their are also good honest ones to.

    What the actual f**k is this post? :-X

    The whole point of all of this is that the organization is fundamentally flawed. Sure, there may be some "good cops" but if the organization doesn't do anything to actually stop the bad ones, and the "good" ones don't do anything to stop the bad ones, then the whole organization is f**ked and needs total reform. Shootings like these keep happening, and will keep happening, and it is absolutely f**king disgusting.

    You're asking people to think about the "Black people that weren't shot that day" like that is going to fix anything. What are you saying? That they should just go about their business and be thankful that this time it was their father or mother or brother or sister or husband or wife or friend that got shot, rather than themselves? Ignoring a problem doesn't make the problem go away. And those people that died... they are dead. Their lives were taken from them. That isn't something to just look at lightly and brush off.

    So nah, I'm not just going to ignore deep-rooted issues that are literally costing people their lives.
  4. bobcunk
    True but instead of looking at the bad ones look at all the cops that arnt killing people. We tend to focus on the negatives even if that's the minority. Think about all the black people that weren't shot that day instead of the one that was. Their are asshole cops but their are also good honest ones to.
  5. Gilfryd
    that one thing old marvel knew to do well be subtle about it

    https://i.annihil.us/u/prod/marvel/i/mg/3/a0/5991fa03329b7/clean.jpg

    Jack Kirby was a bad motherf**ker.
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    “…Jack took a call. A voice on the other end said, ‘There are three of us down here in the lobby. We want to see the guy who does this disgusting comic book and show him what real Nazis would do to his Captain America’. To the horror of others in the office, Kirby rolled up his sleeves and headed downstairs. The callers, however, were gone by the time he arrived.”
  6. Nightmare Asylum
    James Cameron played into that too in Terminator 2: Judgement Day, regarding his decision to make the T-1000 default to a cop as its "main" appearance:

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    “The Terminator films are not really about the human race getting killed off by future machines. They’re about us losing touch with our own humanity and becoming machines, which allows us to kill and brutalize each other. Cops think of all noncops as less than they are — stupid, weak, and evil. They dehumanize the people they are sworn to protect and desensitize themselves in order to do that job.”
  7. Local Trouble
    See also: "If you're not cop, you're little people."

    Right along with the Blade Runners, you know, gunning Replicants down, no questions asked.

    Yeah.  Runaway slaves / illegal immigrants who just want to live longer than four years and act out of desperation to achieve that goal.

    https://www.insider.com/history-of-police-in-the-us-photos-2020-6

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    In the South in the 1700s, patrol groups were created to stop runaway slaves. In the north, a formal police force was created to control immigrants who were moving into cities in the 1800s.
  8. Bug hunt wilson
    Can a bresaker unit count as the alien universe version if liberty prime since we got the space commies know as UPP in the alien universe
  9. Bug hunt wilson
    If Morden day feminism wanted to actually help woman they should help women in the middle East where in some countries they can't even drive cars .Feminism back in the day actually help women get the same rights as  men.While on the other side Morden  day feminism are just people on the internet  complaying  about everything and marvel is full of Morden day feminsist who cant tell a good story but want you to know their polticis so I don't have hope for the new alien comics under marvel especially seeing the new warriors trailer but who knows they might change my mind.
  10. SM
    I remember Riddles also talking about class in Alien with the upstairs/ downstairs of Dallas, Kane, Ripley, Ash and Lambert vs Parker and Brett.  Not having grown up with class really being a thing I would've missed it had he not talked about it on the commentary.
  11. SiL
    People being oblivious to the political aspect of the message doesn't mean there's no political message, which is the entire point of the conversation. Politics in the Alien movies is nothing new. It was always there and people whining about Disney/Marvel potentially adding political messaging and going "woke" is asinine.

    Wait until these people realise that nasty feminism has already infected their beloved franchise :o
  12. Voodoo Magic
    that one thing old marvel knew to do well be subtle about it

    https://i.annihil.us/u/prod/marvel/i/mg/3/a0/5991fa03329b7/clean.jpg

    First, I always loved that cover!  👏

    And these leads to my point. The subtlety of punching Hitler in the face is equivelant to one of your characters saying "All corporations are inherently evil!" Hence neither is subtle. But the more general or vague you get, the more you move away from that, the more subtle it naturally becomes, on a scale that also slides individually based on not just the script and how it targets on something fictional as evil or wrong, but the perspective of the viewer, their life experiences and how deep their intake is when normally viewing film.
  13. Immortan Jonesy
    that one thing old marvel knew to do well be subtle about it

    https://i.annihil.us/u/prod/marvel/i/mg/3/a0/5991fa03329b7/clean.jpg

    Old Marvel wasn't subtle

    https://i.ibb.co/NFYy3KN/61-Bs-Ri-Am-DFL-SX338-BO1-204-203-200.jpg

    Old DC either

    https://i.ibb.co/S5yCbwh/Captain-nazi.jpg

    And we can't forget old Disney  :laugh:

    https://i.ibb.co/MDK88m7/Education-for-Death.jpg

    https://i.ibb.co/LxB2YRF/Der-Fuehrer-s-Face-poster.jpg

    Is it me or most of these examples were spawned during WWII ? What about 50s, 60s, 70s and so on ?

    The Hate-Monger issue came out in 1963

    Aye, and check it out this one from 1974.

    Quote from: The Verge
    In 1974, America was gripped by the Watergate scandal, as President Richard Nixon was accused of criminal acts involving breaking-and-entering and a subsequent cover-up. At the same time, legendary comic creator Steve Englehart was working on Captain America and The Falcon with Sal Buscema. The two decided that such a monumental moment in American history could not go unremarked upon by Captain America: that the overwhelming feelings of distrust and uncertainty had to be incorporated into their superhero stories.

    https://twitter.com/verge/status/863600516105994240

    But as many have already said; a great part of entertainment has always been, is and will always be political, to a greater or lesser degree. Maybe some of us weren't paying attention, we were immature, we experienced cognitive dissonance or simply there was a lack of knowledge. But things are there, regardless.
  14. Nightmare Asylum
    I got to ask a question when did the alien franchise had a political message like some people in the comments are saying the only alien moive that I guess could have a political message was aliens which was an allegory for the Vietnam war but thats about it

    This has been established over and over again on the last few pages. To reiterate:

    Alien is all about the employees of big corporate entity being stripped of their rights and sent down to survey a signal under forfeiture of shares for work that they had already completed, with their lives quite literally put on the line in order to preserve a specimen for the company. If that isn't saying anything about workers rights in a corporate workspace, I don't really know what is.
  15. Bug hunt wilson
    I got to ask a question when did the alien franchise had a political message like some people in the comments are saying the only alien moive that I guess could have a political message was aliens which was an allegory for the Vietnam war but thats about it
  16. 426Buddy
      :D

    People really don't pay attention to what they read or watch do they?

    As if politics hasn't been a part of entertainment since forever. :laugh:

    Marvel didn't used to be political?  :laugh: :laugh:

  17. Xiggz456
    that one thing old marvel knew to do well be subtle about it

    https://i.annihil.us/u/prod/marvel/i/mg/3/a0/5991fa03329b7/clean.jpg

    Old Marvel wasn't subtle

    https://i.ibb.co/NFYy3KN/61-Bs-Ri-Am-DFL-SX338-BO1-204-203-200.jpg

    Old DC either

    https://i.ibb.co/S5yCbwh/Captain-nazi.jpg

    And we can't forget old Disney  :laugh:

    https://i.ibb.co/MDK88m7/Education-for-Death.jpg

    https://i.ibb.co/LxB2YRF/Der-Fuehrer-s-Face-poster.jpg

    Is it me or most of these examples were spawned during WWII ? What about 50s, 60s, 70s and so on ?

    50s, 60s & 70s mirrored the civil rights movement. Professor X was akin to Martin Luther King Jr. wanting peaceful protests and movements to improve African-Americans standings during that era; whereas Magneto was more in line with Malcom X who was willing to use any means necessary to protect the rights and freedoms of African-Americans. Marvel has always been very political and I think that’s one reason why they’ve been around as long as they have.
  18. Dachande
    that one thing old marvel knew to do well be subtle about it

    https://i.annihil.us/u/prod/marvel/i/mg/3/a0/5991fa03329b7/clean.jpg

    Old Marvel wasn't subtle

    https://i.ibb.co/NFYy3KN/61-Bs-Ri-Am-DFL-SX338-BO1-204-203-200.jpg

    Old DC either

    https://i.ibb.co/S5yCbwh/Captain-nazi.jpg

    And we can't forget old Disney  :laugh:

    https://i.ibb.co/MDK88m7/Education-for-Death.jpg

    https://i.ibb.co/LxB2YRF/Der-Fuehrer-s-Face-poster.jpg

    Is it me or most of these examples were spawned during WWII ? What about 50s, 60s, 70s and so on ?

    The Hate-Monger issue came out in 1963
  19. Kradan
    that one thing old marvel knew to do well be subtle about it

    https://i.annihil.us/u/prod/marvel/i/mg/3/a0/5991fa03329b7/clean.jpg

    Old Marvel wasn't subtle

    https://i.ibb.co/NFYy3KN/61-Bs-Ri-Am-DFL-SX338-BO1-204-203-200.jpg

    Old DC either

    https://i.ibb.co/S5yCbwh/Captain-nazi.jpg

    And we can't forget old Disney  :laugh:

    https://i.ibb.co/MDK88m7/Education-for-Death.jpg

    https://i.ibb.co/LxB2YRF/Der-Fuehrer-s-Face-poster.jpg

    Is it me or most of these examples were spawned during WWII ? What about 50s, 60s, 70s and so on ?
  20. Dachande
    Maybe when people think about "good, old Marvel" Captain America fighting Hitler isn't the first thing that comes to their minds ?

    Also, who is that Bucky guy is ? Marvel's version of Robin ?


    How far back are we going for 'Good old Marvel'? Civil War came out in 2007, and had obvious political themes. Literally every X-men story has obvious political themes.

    People just want to argue that stuff is now 'too political' because it doesnt align with their views, and that make the uncomfortable
  21. Nightmare Asylum
    Maybe when people think about "good, old Marvel" Captain America fighting Hitler isn't the first thing that comes to their minds ?

    That doesn't mean it didn't exist. Just like how the politics that were there in the movies these people watched as kids always existed, even if they didn't pick up on it.

    Also, who is that Bucky guy is ? Marvel's version of Robin ?

    Bucky, in his original inception, was a child soldier (gee, nothing political about that!) who is an ace sniper working alongside Cap during WWII. He eventually gets killed, and stays that way for decades, until the 2000s when Brubaker brought him back as The Winter Soldier to tell another incredibly political story.
  22. Kradan
    Maybe when people think about "good, old Marvel" Captain America fighting Hitler isn't the first thing that comes to their minds ?

    Also, who is that Bucky guy is ? Marvel's version of Robin ?
  23. Bug hunt wilson
    Holy  shit I caused a riot in the comments some of y'all mistook my comments I should have said morden day marvel is very political and there not very subtle about it if there were subtle about it I wouldn't mind as much that one thing old marvel knew to do well be subtle about it that and to right good stories Morden day marvel can't seem to write a good story.And I aint gonna to lie when I seen the trailer for new warriors I lost hope for marvel hopefully they will change my mind .
  24. Nightmare Asylum
    I haven't seen the 2016 Ghostbusters, but nothing about the trailers seemed "toxic" or "agressive" to me. I just didn't think it looked particularly good (I'm not really a Paul Feig fan), so I opted to skip it.

    You know what did seem toxic and aggressive? The "fans" that bitched over and over and over again about the fact that the movie starred women and just couldn't let that go, to the point where they are still holding onto it like it was some personal offense against them. And then they did it again to Star Wars. And to Mad Max. And to Terminator. And to Captain Marvel. Etc, etc. And it was pretty disgusting, every single time they used that as their complaint.

    You're doing the wrong thing. You haven't seen the film, but the opinions of the people who watched it and concluded that people are wrong. Things don't work that way. GB2016 is disgusting film. It received well-deserved criticism and I'm glad that this junk will be erased thanks to Afterlife.
    You can't compare this trash to Fury Road, SW ST and Dark Fates. I agree - these films have received undeserved criticism. However - they were not toxic. IDK about Captain Marvel - I have not watched it, so I think it's right not to talk about this film.

    Ghostbusters 2016 isn't getting "erased." It was never part of the original continuity to begin with.

    What about the movie was toxic? Whenever I see people throwing that word around with that movie, the only thing I ever see them complaining about is the female leads. I'm not saying that you're doing the same, but that's the only lasting take that I ever see from people that are still so upset about it that they are still clinging to and citing it all these years later.
  25. Drukathi
    I haven't seen the 2016 Ghostbusters, but nothing about the trailers seemed "toxic" or "agressive" to me. I just didn't think it looked particularly good (I'm not really a Paul Feig fan), so I opted to skip it.

    You know what did seem toxic and aggressive? The "fans" that bitched over and over and over again about the fact that the movie starred women and just couldn't let that go, to the point where they are still holding onto it like it was some personal offense against them. And then they did it again to Star Wars. And to Mad Max. And to Terminator. And to Captain Marvel. Etc, etc. And it was pretty disgusting, every single time they used that as their complaint.

    You're doing the wrong thing. You haven't seen the film, but the opinions of the people who watched it and concluded that people are wrong. Things don't work that way. GB2016 is disgusting film. It received well-deserved criticism and I'm glad that this junk will be erased thanks to Afterlife.
    You can't compare this trash to Fury Road, SW ST and Dark Fates. I agree - these films have received undeserved criticism. However - they were not toxic. IDK about Captain Marvel - I have not watched it, so I think it's right not to talk about this film.
  26. Nightmare Asylum
    You are digging too deep. People just don't want another toxic and aggressive abomination like GB 2016.

    I haven't seen the 2016 Ghostbusters, but nothing about the trailers seemed "toxic" or "agressive" to me. I just didn't think it looked particularly good (I'm not really a Paul Feig fan), so I opted to skip it.

    You know what did seem toxic and aggressive? The "fans" that bitched over and over and over again about the fact that the movie starred women and just couldn't let that go, to the point where they are still holding onto it like it was some personal offense against them. And then they did it again to Star Wars. And to Mad Max. And to Terminator. And to Captain Marvel. Etc, etc. And it was pretty disgusting, every single time they used that as their complaint.
  27. Drukathi
    Guy who bitches about getting underpaid the whole movie cursing out the Company, asking "The damn company. What about our lives, you son of a bitch?" and angrily torching the corporate shill sent to jeopardize them all for profit after being told their lives are completely disposable really isn't subtle.

    Nightmare is right. Politics have always been there, and they've always been worn on the films' respective sleeves.

    You are digging too deep. People just don't want another toxic and aggressive abomination like GB 2016.
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