I’m sure I wouldn’t be speaking out of turn if I said the future of Alien and Predator under Disney has been something of a concern for a lot of fans. And now Disney and Fox have confirmed that Alien remains a priority for the studio.
The Disney presentation is currently taking place at CinemaCon and according to attendees, not only was footage of Alien: Covenant during their sizzle reel, but it was also confirmed that Disney and Fox planned to continue working on the Alien series, as well as the Planet of the Apes, Kingsman, Avatar and Maze Runner series.
Disney/Fox confirm that the Alien series remains alive under the new ownership.
Fox side now teasing more Apes, Kingsman, Avatar, Alien and Maze Runner movies #CinemaCon
— Erik Davis (@ErikDavis) April 3, 2019
Alien and Planet of the Apes sound like they’re still in play at Disney, as they were highlighted onscreen at CinemaCon as franchises they are actively continuing to develop.
— Exhibitor Relations Co. (@ERCboxoffice) April 3, 2019
Disney confirmed #Alien is one of the franchises they are actively continuing during their #CinemaCon presentation! @AlienAnthology pic.twitter.com/98zWVqlAp8
— Nicholas Whitcomb (@Whos_Nick) April 3, 2019
Footage from the Predator series was also included in the sizzle reel but nothing was mentioned about continuing the franchise. Thanks to HN Entertainment’s Nick for the heads-up.
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Indeed. Although xenos don't live forever. So he'd have to become some biomechanical hive mentality. That's way too crazy for me. That David was every xeno.
Finish the prequel Trilogy, David's fall.
Misattributed creation.
Lord Byron creating the Ozymandias poem.
David Weyland creating the Alien.
Wouldn't that be a story?
Should be called The Tragedy of Anthony Crespi.
Gimme animated adaptations of some of the comics instead,
Dead Orbit, Dust To Dust, Labyrinth, Salvation, Sacrifice, Survival and Alchemy.
Ahh, I hadn't seen that thread thanks for pointing me to it.
https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/index.php?topic=61495.msg2353808#msg2353808
Reminds me of one of the last Dark Horse books where they were in a garden facility and there were Aliens. Anyone remember what that was? Original Sin?
I'm anti-nostalgia for nostalgia's sake, because I've experienced it and it's totally hollow.
The short film Specimen for instance, consistent but creative and nearly totally new.
I don't get why people are so anti-nostalgia. Anti-sentimentality.
Not for me, the world building and storytelling
(powerful thematics) and additional aspects engross.
TCF I enjoyed because it's brilliant, and it maintained the world's consistency
and the thematic consistency of the Alien representing the apathy of the universe
and Dorian Sulder the apathetic Company. Apathy presenting viciously.
But it only utilised it as building blocks for the new story.
No nostalgic video or sound effects to the paper.
I like all my fun stuff that has gone before. It is a part of me. Sometimes in life, you come across things that just resonate with you - your own personal classics, if you will. I like to relive them, as much as, and as often as, I like new things and experiences.
Huggs is correct.
There's your blueprint. That's how its done. Follow it. The other thing has been done ad nauseam.
I don't think the studio, Cameron, or anybody they'd get to direct an aliens style film has the guts nowadays to take the audience through that kind of horror before we hit the happy feelings. I think if the franchise deviates from Ridley and Fincher's dark capabilities and style, that it will be castrated in both tone and ferocity. It will be more like halo than alien, and I believe that absolutely.
The problem is that it would likely be successful and spell the end of any future attempts at a serious and terrifying alien film. The xenomorph would be demoted to the ranks of videogame bad guy. Like the locusts or the covenant. And the franchise would never get its teeth back. It would become something tame enough to be featured in star wars.
Cameron knew that and could go dark back in the day, but I believe those days are gone. This is the age of excessive shout outs, unwarranted comedy and spectacle, and restrained and largely bloodless violence. It's the tween age. I don't want to see the beast subjected to circus work. I'd rather it was put out of its misery.
Shining optimism has no place in the alien universe, in my opinion. It has made its bones being the aggressive and unforgiving child of human hubris. A shining example of the nihilistic reality of space, and in many ways, certain facets of our own existence. Let every other space movie (besides "life") have the wins, and love and happy endings. We need one outcast to keep things grounded.
The dark deserves its share of fear and death. And nobody does fear and death like Alien.
That's not a fair assessment. You want things to be like Alien and you call that verisimilitude, and if others want things to be reminiscent of Aliens, you call that nostalgia. It's the same thing. I'm not being condescsrnding, I'm pointing out the double standard. I've lost track of the number of posts where you went off on somebody for having an opinion that's different than yours, calling it garbage or rubbish. I don't get riled up enough to go that route. As far as I'm concerned, I am just having conversations with fellow fans about the films I like. I prefer to say that I'm not a proponent of someone's idea or direction rather than calling it garbage, but I definitely don't get condescending.
Alien and Alien 3 or the dark nihilistic films that are finally similar, whereas Aliens is the shining optimistic film which most fans (casual or hardcore) see as the high point of the series. Which approach is better? I think it's clear, but there is enough wiggle room for both. We have now had 8 Aliens films and only one was a film with optimism about humanity, which had heart. It is time to do another one like that. It's ok for live, kindness, and humanity to overcome sometimes, and to come out on top.
At least salvation had Bale and genisys had Jason and Emilia.
All T6 is, is Skynet vs the Avon industry.
After that, y'all do whatever you gonna do.
My personal opinion was never meant to represent anybody's thoughts but my own.
Woah stop making personal opinions "statement of facts".
I will boycott the forthcoming TERMINATOR "Dark Fate"
TERMINATOR 3- Rise of the Machines, in my opinion, is a fun, workable sequel with one of the best truck chase scenes up there with TERMINATOR 2. Yes its campy in a Playboy/Maxim magazine kind of way but that's what made it fun. Kristanna Loken's leather clad Terminatrix was great but I don't get why her endoskeleton looked like a terminator version of the classic UFO alien "little green men" meme.
Also "that ending". Good film.
TERMINATOR 4 (SALVATION) was a formulaic film that tried to Christopher Nolan the TERMINATOR films but at least the production values were good.
TERMINATOR 5 (Gensys) was just trash and made ROBOCOP 3 (1993) look like Blade Runner by comparison.
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Denis Villeneuve isn't a requirement but a talented filmmaker is,
Danny Boyle/Alex Garland/Ari Aster/ Robert Eggers etcetera.
Agreed regarding the rest.
Surprises get you The Predator.
The golden age for making alien and predator movies of quality likely died with the last millennium. I especially do not see Cameron being as ballsy as he was in 86 or with T1 ever again. He's out to make money and win awards. Sexually charged body horror with ultra violence is not going to get him that avatar/titanic recognition.
The only chance for a true return to form would be if Villeneuve gets involved in a non Ripley, horror centered alien story that embraces the dark and gothic nature of the originals, particularly 1&3.
U N F Yes.
Disney's issue with Star Wars was that they had left the directors to largely do as they pleased within the confines of what Disney had set up. Disney gave them a lot of wiggle room and had been more hands off than anything because they trust the talent they hire. That's Disney's whole model, you find the talent and you let them do their thing, you edit later. What happened with Solo is that it went off the reservation and stopped using things in Disney's script and started doing its own thing. The things Disney didn't hire the talent to do. Thus they had to get a new director and fix the movie before release and it was ultimately going up against a pretty packed Summer line-up as is. Their resolve to be more watchful isn't totally because of trends, it was largely because the talent they hired went off and did a movie they weren't hired to make.
It would be awesome if they did a sequel to Alien Covenant that put that particular story arc on a track (as it wasn't even on one to begin with), and followed Alien 3 with a sequel (that does not involve Ripley or Hicks or Newt!) that takes it in a new and interesting direction.
The only reason I want a portion of the concepts we've seen before to return is for verisimilitude.
The rest? Again, it has nothing to do with nostalgia when I'm adamant I want new things,
set in the universe I enjoy.
A comparison of quality is a different subject.
Neither James Cameron or David Fincher just regurgitated what Ridley Scott did.
"Stop deluding yourself." Mature and revealing.
If nostalgia is all you want, go rewatch the old films.
I'd much rather new content creators expand the sandbox by playing with the basic concept,
the Alien itself is the only element that need not be f**ked with, just like Mad Max in Mad Max, everything else is up for change.
"The truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth."