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Fargo & Legion Creator Noah Hawley Tried To Make An Alien Miniseries For FX

Last year it was reported that a possible TV series for Alien was secretly in the works at Fox. While we were unable to confirm anything, we were aware that something might have been happening over at Fox.

According to Deadline in their reporting of the current Disney/Fox merger, Noah Hawley had attempted to get an Alien mini-series off the ground on FX but was stopped by Emma Watts as she wanted to keep live-action Alien a theatrical series.

“Sources said that in the recent past she fended off an attempt by Hawley and FX to take the Aliens franchise and turn it into a miniseries, and when Searchlight once wanted to do something with The Omen, she held fast because who wants to give up your franchises? She did that before the Disney deal, when it was a whole different ballgame.”

 Fargo & Legion Creator Noah Hawley Tried To Make An Alien Miniseries For FX

Artwork from Aliens: Tribe by Dave Dorman.

Noah Hawley is responsible for the creation of the current FX series Fargo and Legion. Unfortunately Deadline provides no further details about what that would have looked like. How would you have felt about an Alien series from Noah Hawley? Let us know down below! Thanks to HN Entertainment for the news.

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  1. Corporal Hicks
    QuoteStar Trek is not the only iconic franchise Hawley has pushed to dabble with as a creator. In March 2019, it was reported that he had pitched FX on a miniseries set within the Alien universe. The Disney-Fox merger may have ended those hopes for now, but we're hoping for a potential return based on Hawley's angle in. Namely: it's about the people, not the xenomorphs.

    "Alien is on some level the complete opposite of Stark Trek. It's sort of about humanity at its worst," he said. "There's this moment in the second film when Sigourney says, 'I don't know which species is worse. At least they don't screw each other over for a percentage.' If you look at what Aliens tends to be, it's usually a trapped story – trapped in a ship, trapped in a prison, etc. And because the Alien has this life cycle to it, where it goes from egg, to chestburster, to xenomorph, there becomes a certain routine to it."

    He continued: "I thought it would be interesting if you could expand. If you're going to make something for television, you've got 10 hours let's say. Even if you have a lot of action, like two hours, then you're still going to have eight hours left. So what is the show about? That's what I tried to talk to them about. As I did with Legion, the exercise is: Let's take the superhero stuff out of the show and see if it's still a great show. What's the show about? Let's take the Alien out of the show. What's the show about? What are the themes, who are the characters and what is the human drama? Then we drop the aliens back in and we go, 'This is great. Not only is there great human drama, but there's aliens!'"

    https://observer.com/2020/09/noah-hawley-star-trek-movie-details-alien-miniseries-pitch-fx/
  2. [cancerblack]
    Quote from: The Old OneDavid gets the wrong end of the stick, believes he's creating something original but in reality it is guiding him to almost supernaturally, resurrect the Alien from extinction.

    This has been my thinking the entire time tbh, probably why I've always been so okay with covvie.
  3. SuperiorIronman
    It all just makes me believe that Fox is trying to relive the glory days and are unable to accept what the franchise is and where it is now.

    Television is not only cheaper but because you can stream your also not entirely beholden to the networks. So not only can you get away with a smaller budget, you can still do things that otherwise you can't do on network television. A show also does not have to be 12 episodes but you can do 6 and still get away with it with minimal creature FX. It's not only better to use the creature sparingly but it's wanted and expected by the fan base to use the Alien in sparing and creepy ways. You can get away with minimal usage of the Alien in an Alien product, it is possible.

    I get the want to keep it in theaters but if your fanbase is eager to consume content but you can't muster the money to put it in theaters, your not going to convince investors or producers of a big budget franchise if your prior products are going downhill. People will put out the money for Alien, they will not put out theatrical dollars for it. Now a streaming show is definitely the way to go and Fox has an outlet with Hulu, so why not stay streaming until the franchise is capable of supporting a big budget release again.
  4. Nukiemorph
    So I've been very curious as to when Emma shot Noah down.  I don't see any reports on when this happened.

    Was this before Covenant, when they still had huge hopes for the franchise because Prometheus was a success?

    Or was this after Covenant, meaning she still had high hopes despite Covenant's disappointment?
  5. Master
    Quote from: The Old One on Mar 25, 2019, 12:21:16 AM
    Agreed Kane's Other Son;

    One final Ridley Scott prequel. Under supervision, and/or collaboration.

    Spoiler
    Push the creator, creation angle even farther by revealing the SJ's created the Engineers eons ago, some cataclysm happened and they disappeared. They discovered the Alien, it destroyed them. The Engineers, millennia later inherited their technology.

    The Pathogen, which the SJs derived from the Alien, somehow (the audience isn't told) is all that remains of that Galactic extinction event. Ruins, and technological remains. The SJ's wanted to fight fire with fire with the Pathogen, but the Pathogen- although destructive to worlds- couldn't infect or best the Alien. In fact it always worked it's way towards something resembling the Alien more and more with each use. All the Space Jockey's race die, all but a few. They're effectively extinct.

    So the Engineers, in their hubris- flying too close to the sun, make the same mistakes in using this almost "seductively" powerful Pathogen, believing they can control it- it leaves their civilizations in ruins LV-223 being the source of the main disaster, which they abandon. So obviously they banish the Wolf, undo their creation but in the process become the insular and primitive society we see in Covenant.

    David gets the wrong end of the stick, believes he's creating something original but in reality it is guiding him to almost supernaturally, resurrect the Alien from extinction. He would realise this when he discovers the Derelict, or the Derelict discovers him- and that would be his grand downfall- not just physically but mentally.
    Spoiler
    Do it.
    Spoiler
    A talented team and a new vision afterwards.
    [close]
    [close]
    [close]

    Pay me, 20th Century Fox/Disney.  ;D

    That...

    ...is actually briliant idea. I  also wanted Engineers to be  Jockey creation. This should be done, not as a series,  but as a motion picture. Three hours long and expensive.
  6. Highland
    Quote from: HuDaFuK on Mar 24, 2019, 03:20:37 PM
    The flipside of that coin is whether Ridley would agree to do a sequel if he couldn't do it exactly the way he wanted.

    The impression I got was that he was very much the boss when it came to Covenant, and the studio largely deferred to him. Whether that's still the case after the movie under-performed, I couldn't say.

    mmm, I would have said the opposite. Seemed more to me like Ridley had a plan set out, the Studio said nah put the Alien in it and then we ended up with Covenant.

    I'd imagine that's why the third one is so sticky. Do you go Alien or Prom.....
  7. Perfect-Organism
    Ya, I'm not married to morphing either.  I've always been rather ambivalent about that idea.

    I guess what I'm trying to get across as a cool thing is the idea that everyone expects the people in the Covenant to play a hand in creating the eggs on the LV-426 derelict, but your idea subverts that.

    Just as long as we don't get a universe littered with derelicts...
  8. Perfect-Organism
    Quote from: The Old One on Mar 25, 2019, 12:21:16 AM
    Agreed Kane's Other Son;

    One final Ridley Scott prequel. Under supervision, and/or collaboration.

    Spoiler
    Push the creator, creation angle even farther by revealing the SJ's created the Engineers eons ago, some cataclysm happened and they disappeared. They discovered the Alien, it destroyed them. The Engineers, millennia later inherited their technology.

    The Pathogen, which the SJs derived from the Alien, somehow (the audience isn't told) is all that remains of that Galactic extinction event. Ruins, and technological remains. The SJ's wanted to fight fire with fire with the Pathogen, but the Pathogen- although destructive to worlds- couldn't infect or best the Alien. In fact it always worked it's way towards something resembling the Alien more and more with each use. All the Space Jockey's race die, all but a few. They're effectively extinct.

    So the Engineers, in their hubris- flying too close to the sun, make the same mistakes in using this almost "seductively" powerful Pathogen, believing they can control it- it leaves their civilizations in ruins LV-223 being the source of the main disaster, which they abandon. So obviously they banish the Wolf, undo their creation but in the process become the insular and primitive society we see in Covenant.

    David gets the wrong end of the stick, believes he's creating something original but in reality it is guiding him to almost supernaturally, resurrect the Alien from extinction. He would realise this when he discovers the Derelict, or the Derelict discovers him- and that would be his grand downfall- not just physically but mentally.
    Spoiler
    Do it.
    Spoiler
    A talented team and a new vision afterwards.
    [close]
    [close]
    [close]

    Pay me, 20th Century Fox/Disney.  ;D

    The Old One, I am not down with your resistance to the Alien 3 retcon, but the above thing you wrote is right on the money!  That saves everything that Covenant screws up, allowing the derelict to remain ancient and mysterious.  All we need to do is show GLIMPSES of the real space jockey.  Literally, one scene where one of those things is seen moving in the shadows.

    You can literally have David eggmorph everyone on the Covenant and make us believe it will be the derelict on LV426.  Then it turns out that derelict was already there and it's not the same one.

    Somebody please go film this!
  9. The Old One
    Agreed Kane's Other Son;

    One final Ridley Scott prequel. Under supervision, and/or collaboration.

    Spoiler
    Push the creator, creation angle even farther by revealing the SJ's created the Engineers eons ago, some cataclysm happened and they disappeared. They discovered the Alien, it destroyed them. The Engineers, millennia later inherited their technology.

    The Pathogen, which the SJs derived from the Alien, somehow (the audience isn't told) is all that remains of that Galactic extinction event. Ruins, and technological remains. The SJ's wanted to fight fire with fire with the Pathogen, but the Pathogen- although destructive to worlds- couldn't infect or best the Alien. In fact it always worked it's way towards something resembling the Alien more and more with each use. All the Space Jockey's race die, all but a few. They're effectively extinct.

    So the Engineers, in their hubris- flying too close to the sun, make the same mistakes in using this almost "seductively" powerful Pathogen, believing they can control it- it leaves their civilizations in ruins LV-223 being the source of the main disaster, which they abandon. So obviously they banish the Wolf, undo their creation but in the process become the insular and primitive society we see in Covenant.

    David gets the wrong end of the stick, believes he's creating something original but in reality it is guiding him to almost supernaturally, resurrect the Alien from extinction. He would realise this when he discovers the Derelict, or the Derelict discovers him- and that would be his grand downfall- not just physically but mentally.
    Spoiler
    Do it.
    Spoiler
    A talented team and a new vision afterwards.
    [close]
    [close]
    [close]

    Pay me, 20th Century Fox/Disney.  ;D
  10. Kane's other son
    Quote from: HuDaFuK on Mar 24, 2019, 03:20:37 PM
    The flipside of that coin is whether Ridley would agree to do a sequel if he couldn't do it exactly the way he wanted.

    The impression I got was that he was very much the boss when it came to Covenant, and the studio largely deferred to him. Whether that's still the case after the movie under-performed, I couldn't say.

    I got the exact opposite impression. Ridley Scott was vocal about the beast being toast and moving to a new direction and then we got a delay in the development project and when the project came back, it was a bona fide alien movie. It really feels as if Fox demanded from Scott to dial down the Prometheus connection and include the big chap.
  11. irn
    Quote from: Master on Mar 24, 2019, 03:29:32 PM
    I would like a series to be set just after A3 and dealing with W-Y final comeback to LV-426, establishing base near the Derlict and focusing on Alien research. It would fill the gap and gave us answer why USM had to go as far as cloning Ripley to get their hands on Alien.

    That could be a good story to tell. Ideally leaving the appearance of any xenomorphs right up to the very end, if at all.
  12. Master
    I would like a series to be set just after A3 and dealing with W-Y final comeback to LV-426, establishing base near the Derlict and focusing on Alien research. It would fill the gap and gave us answer why USM had to go as far as cloning Ripley to get their hands on Alien.
  13. HuDaFuK
    The flipside of that coin is whether Ridley would agree to do a sequel if he couldn't do it exactly the way he wanted.

    The impression I got was that he was very much the boss when it came to Covenant, and the studio largely deferred to him. Whether that's still the case after the movie under-performed, I couldn't say.
  14. Perfect-Organism
    We had an "alien" in Covenant presumably because the studio knew that fans were clamouring for it.  If the studio is listening, they won't allow Ridley to make Dave the creator of the Aliens.  Under those circumstances, I say let Ridley make his film.
  15. Highland
     I think most people would like to see a TV series. The quality these days can be just as good as movies and it's a pretty big incentive to jump onto a new service. I'm currently on Netflix only, but I'd for sure pay for another service if it had themes I was interested in.

    Shorts would be my pick, but shorts would probably pump up the costs.
  16. HudsonGAMEOVERMANGAMEOVER
    Quote from: The Old One on Mar 23, 2019, 05:24:32 PM
    On topic... Noah Hawley's a good choice.

    Totally, Fargo is amazing. I couldn't really get into Legion though it was a little too non-linear and all over the place for me.

    He's also making the jump to film with his feature film debut Lucy In The Sky, talked to someone who has seen it and they really liked it.  Plus, Noah revealed that Marvel's Feige Kevin met with him about continuing work on his Doctor Doom script.

  17. MrH
    your view of journalism and mine are clearly different then, but if you are the source and not the outlet itself and you change outlets, its a pretty important factor, in my view.
    therefore your name should have been mentioned, because its a piece to the puzzle.
    I dont care where you started, I dont care about your history, none of that is relevant to me just posting my video. again, lets not be petty or childish about it all. you dont have the monopoly. let your journalism do the talking if you're so confident in it  :)

    anyway, this has been, something, im off like I said I was, if you want to contact me directly, my email address is in every video description.
  18. HudsonGAMEOVERMANGAMEOVER
    Quote from: MrH on Mar 23, 2019, 02:50:10 PM
    the video opens with stating its an editorial.....  ???
    in editorials you can reference, journalism by definition is the following - "the activity or profession of writing for newspapers, magazines, or news websites or preparing news to be broadcast"

    that accounts for editorials and opinion pieces, I sourced the facts, which I say in the video and I link in the description box, thats journalism, by literal definition.......

    I have no axe to grind, I merely plotted everything, I referenced everything, I gave every fact there was, even the ones that had been left out from your article I believe, I even referenced myself.
    but this is just journalism, just another opinion, why should yours be the only one in the mix?  ??? you dont have a monopoly on this and when I clearly see some misreporting, I wanted to outline the entire facts. a pitch, is not, absolutely not, development.

    appreciate the incredibly kind gesture of unblocking me, but I won't be graciously accepting. I literally only came here to post my video, because I felt the opposing view was a good one. and then you said I had an axe to grind, which is incorrect. completely.
    take care  :)

    Fair enough, I guess nobody needs to be friends.

    I think I'd respect that video more if you weren't calling me out by name and instead of simply mentioning my outlet which is the norm, and then trying to insert yourself when you offer next to zero of your own information and seemingly really only have a semantics issue. So yeah, I feel that is trying to make it personal from my perspective. Editorials are fine when the person does them isn't acting as a gatekeeper to the franchise being covered and seemingly more concerned about their own status of information sharing. I get people are super protective of this stuff. I started out here on the boards of AVPGalaxy in the early 2000s before I assume most people currently on here were even born. I also cover many many different projects and have a long-standing record of reporting stuff beyond this franchise. I wish I could see this video as some vetting of the stuff I put out but it feels/sounds a little more accusatory and petty.
  19. MrH
    the video opens with stating its an editorial.....  ???
    in editorials you can reference, journalism by definition is the following - "the activity or profession of writing for newspapers, magazines, or news websites or preparing news to be broadcast"

    that accounts for editorials and opinion pieces, I sourced the facts, which I say in the video and I link in the description box, thats journalism, by literal definition.......

    I have no axe to grind, I merely plotted everything, I referenced everything, I gave every fact there was, even the ones that had been left out from your article I believe, I even referenced myself.
    but this is just journalism, just another opinion, why should yours be the only one in the mix?  ??? you dont have a monopoly on this and when I clearly see some misreporting, I wanted to outline the entire facts. a pitch, is not, absolutely not, development.

    appreciate the incredibly kind gesture of unblocking me, but I won't be graciously accepting. I literally only came here to post my video, because I felt the opposing view was a good one. and then you said I had an axe to grind, which is incorrect. completely.
    take care  :)
  20. HudsonGAMEOVERMANGAMEOVER
    Quote from: HudsonGAMEOVERMANGAMEOVER on Mar 23, 2019, 02:36:12 PM
    I hadn't revisited our report from January but we actually mentioned Noah Hawley in there because our source had mentioned him in describing the information, a Noah Hawley type series. They didn't come out and say he was involved but it adds some legitimacy to the source for sure.

    "Details are scarce at the moment but there might be multiple seasons that could tackle different corners/eras of the franchise, not unlike Noah Hawley's series Fargo." 

    https://twitter.com/HNEsocial/status/1095816659808501761


    Quote from: MrH on Mar 23, 2019, 02:33:46 PM
    just going to chuck this in here. its important to note that the initial report and the follow up report stated things were in development, an idea, being pitched, is not in development. also, the same report that is being used to confirm this narrative also states that disney plans to only let fox release four movies and four streaming services per year.

    I highly doubt any of those will be the alien franchise.

    the same article being used to try and confirm something, also proves its false.  enjoy.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UW1vDm000yE

    Full disclosure myself and Mr. H had a bit of a blowout last month and he has a bit of an axe to grind with me.


    Quote from: MrH on Mar 23, 2019, 02:38:47 PM
    no axe to grind at all, im just sharing a counter opinion and I detailed quotes references and sources in the video description. no axe to grind at all. the facts speak for themselves and im just sharing it.

    lets not be petty, nothing about my post or my video shows I have an axe to grind.
    on the contrary, its just journalism, you have to quote, you have to reference. again, lets not be childish here. its standard journalism practices.

    If you were sharing an opinion you should have been a little more upfront it was just an opinion and you don't have a lot of your own information to refute things, making an opinion video isn't actual journalism it's just an editorial. Journalism is sourcing which we did and why we may have actually mentioned Noah Hawley in our reporting from January, which you pointed out. Everything is up in the air at Fox as Disney cleans house and what does and doesn't get made is very unclear. I wouldn't be making any declarations that stuff won't be made when you have no idea what Alan Horn will be doing with the IP within the next year.

    If you want to hash this out on Twitter we can, I'll unblock you right now. I don't hold grudges but I don't like letting my temper get the best of me so I removed you before that even took.
  21. MrH
    no axe to grind at all, im just sharing a counter opinion and I detailed quotes references and sources in the video description. no axe to grind at all. the facts speak for themselves and im just sharing it.

    lets not be petty, nothing about my post or my video shows I have an axe to grind.
    on the contrary, its just journalism, you have to quote, you have to reference. again, lets not be childish here. its standard journalism practices.
  22. HudsonGAMEOVERMANGAMEOVER
    I hadn't revisited our report from January but we actually mentioned Noah Hawley in there because our source had mentioned him in describing the information, a Noah Hawley type series. They didn't come out and say he was involved but it adds some legitimacy to the source for sure.

    "Details are scarce at the moment but there might be multiple seasons that could tackle different corners/eras of the franchise, not unlike Noah Hawley's series Fargo." 

    https://twitter.com/HNEsocial/status/1095816659808501761


    Quote from: MrH on Mar 23, 2019, 02:33:46 PM
    just going to chuck this in here. its important to note that the initial report and the follow up report stated things were in development, an idea, being pitched, is not in development. also, the same report that is being used to confirm this narrative also states that disney plans to only let fox release four movies and four streaming services per year.

    I highly doubt any of those will be the alien franchise.

    the same article being used to try and confirm something, also proves its false.  enjoy.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UW1vDm000yE

    Full disclosure myself and Mr. H had a bit of a blowout last month and he has a bit of an axe to grind with myself.
  23. MrH
    just going to chuck this in here. its important to note that the initial report and the follow up report stated things were in development, an idea, being pitched, is not in development. also, the same report that is being used to confirm this narrative also states that disney plans to only let fox release four movies and four streaming services per year.

    I highly doubt any of those will be the alien franchise.

    the same article being used to try and confirm something, also proves its false.  enjoy.

    https://youtu.be/UW1vDm000yE
  24. Enjoy
    This would have been great even if each episode was a short story. A set of five stories from five directors/film workers doing five different stories set in the alien universe. Some could just ignore the alien entierly and be about the company and a synthetic life form  like David and his or her  inner dialog and how it may differ from what he or she is actuly expressing and showing to human beings.
  25. Nightmare Asylum
    Noah Hawley is great. I absolutely love what I saw of Fargo.

    I still want Ridley's third prequel to take precedence, but if we are going to delve into Alien as a miniseries, Hawley is a pretty excellent choice to hand the reigns to.
  26. Huggs
    Quote from: HuDaFuK on Mar 22, 2019, 08:32:16 PM
    Quote from: Huggs on Mar 22, 2019, 07:45:05 PMIt's not about violence. Sons had plenty of violence, but went the entire series only being able to say sh*t and d*mn. It was unrealistic of human behavior, especially of those within a violent subculture, and took me right out of the experience.

    Yeah, back when I actually watched The Walking Dead, it wound/cracked me up no end that you could see a zombie tear a man's eyeball out with its teeth, but heaven forbid you see a nipple or someone saying a swears!

    No doubt.

    Rick can throat bite a dudes esophagus out, but the dirtiest thing I remember anybody saying was when dude asked to see Hershel's stump. Granted, it was important data  :laugh:
  27. HuDaFuK
    Quote from: Huggs on Mar 22, 2019, 07:45:05 PMIt's not about violence. Sons had plenty of violence, but went the entire series only being able to say sh*t and d*mn. It was unrealistic of human behavior, especially of those within a violent subculture, and took me right out of the experience.

    Yeah, back when I actually watched The Walking Dead, it wound/cracked me up no end that you could see a zombie tear a man's eyeball out with its teeth, but heaven forbid you see a nipple or someone saying a swears!
  28. Huggs
    I'm a supporter of the notion that, "if you don't like it, don't watch it". The artist and their audience should not have their work or experience limited just to appease a small group of people who could easily just change the channel.

    It beggars the imagination that someone could be fine with violence and Gore, but not okay with the f word. Talk about screwed up values.
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