Last year it was reported that a possible TV series for Alien was secretly in the works at Fox. While we were unable to confirm anything, we were aware that something might have been happening over at Fox.
According to Deadline in their reporting of the current Disney/Fox merger, Noah Hawley had attempted to get an Alien mini-series off the ground on FX but was stopped by Emma Watts as she wanted to keep live-action Alien a theatrical series.
“Sources said that in the recent past she fended off an attempt by Hawley and FX to take the Aliens franchise and turn it into a miniseries, and when Searchlight once wanted to do something with The Omen, she held fast because who wants to give up your franchises? She did that before the Disney deal, when it was a whole different ballgame.”
Noah Hawley is responsible for the creation of the current FX series Fargo and Legion. Unfortunately Deadline provides no further details about what that would have looked like. How would you have felt about an Alien series from Noah Hawley? Let us know down below! Thanks to HN Entertainment for the news.
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https://observer.com/2020/09/noah-hawley-star-trek-movie-details-alien-miniseries-pitch-fx/
It's good, but it's no Call of Duty, man
This has been my thinking the entire time tbh, probably why I've always been so okay with covvie.
Band of Brothers is coming back to TV in the UK and seeing the trailer for it today reminded me just how superb and cinematic TV can be these days.
Television is not only cheaper but because you can stream your also not entirely beholden to the networks. So not only can you get away with a smaller budget, you can still do things that otherwise you can't do on network television. A show also does not have to be 12 episodes but you can do 6 and still get away with it with minimal creature FX. It's not only better to use the creature sparingly but it's wanted and expected by the fan base to use the Alien in sparing and creepy ways. You can get away with minimal usage of the Alien in an Alien product, it is possible.
I get the want to keep it in theaters but if your fanbase is eager to consume content but you can't muster the money to put it in theaters, your not going to convince investors or producers of a big budget franchise if your prior products are going downhill. People will put out the money for Alien, they will not put out theatrical dollars for it. Now a streaming show is definitely the way to go and Fox has an outlet with Hulu, so why not stay streaming until the franchise is capable of supporting a big budget release again.
Was this before Covenant, when they still had huge hopes for the franchise because Prometheus was a success?
Or was this after Covenant, meaning she still had high hopes despite Covenant's disappointment?
That...
...is actually briliant idea. I also wanted Engineers to be Jockey creation. This should be done, not as a series, but as a motion picture. Three hours long and expensive.
mmm, I would have said the opposite. Seemed more to me like Ridley had a plan set out, the Studio said nah put the Alien in it and then we ended up with Covenant.
I'd imagine that's why the third one is so sticky. Do you go Alien or Prom.....
Let's do this.
I guess what I'm trying to get across as a cool thing is the idea that everyone expects the people in the Covenant to play a hand in creating the eggs on the LV-426 derelict, but your idea subverts that.
Just as long as we don't get a universe littered with derelicts...
The Old One, I am not down with your resistance to the Alien 3 retcon, but the above thing you wrote is right on the money! That saves everything that Covenant screws up, allowing the derelict to remain ancient and mysterious. All we need to do is show GLIMPSES of the real space jockey. Literally, one scene where one of those things is seen moving in the shadows.
You can literally have David eggmorph everyone on the Covenant and make us believe it will be the derelict on LV426. Then it turns out that derelict was already there and it's not the same one.
Somebody please go film this!
One final Ridley Scott prequel. Under supervision, and/or collaboration.
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The Pathogen, which the SJs derived from the Alien, somehow (the audience isn't told) is all that remains of that Galactic extinction event. Ruins, and technological remains. The SJ's wanted to fight fire with fire with the Pathogen, but the Pathogen- although destructive to worlds- couldn't infect or best the Alien. In fact it always worked it's way towards something resembling the Alien more and more with each use. All the Space Jockey's race die, all but a few. They're effectively extinct.
So the Engineers, in their hubris- flying too close to the sun, make the same mistakes in using this almost "seductively" powerful Pathogen, believing they can control it- it leaves their civilizations in ruins LV-223 being the source of the main disaster, which they abandon. So obviously they banish the Wolf, undo their creation but in the process become the insular and primitive society we see in Covenant.
David gets the wrong end of the stick, believes he's creating something original but in reality it is guiding him to almost supernaturally, resurrect the Alien from extinction. He would realise this when he discovers the Derelict, or the Derelict discovers him- and that would be his grand downfall- not just physically but mentally.
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Pay me, 20th Century Fox/Disney.
I got the exact opposite impression. Ridley Scott was vocal about the beast being toast and moving to a new direction and then we got a delay in the development project and when the project came back, it was a bona fide alien movie. It really feels as if Fox demanded from Scott to dial down the Prometheus connection and include the big chap.
My preference is post-AR though, with all the bells and whistles of the Trilogy. With none of the continuity baggage.
That could be a good story to tell. Ideally leaving the appearance of any xenomorphs right up to the very end, if at all.
This.
The impression I got was that he was very much the boss when it came to Covenant, and the studio largely deferred to him. Whether that's still the case after the movie under-performed, I couldn't say.
I certainly would not object to a project from Noah Hawley.
I definitely would prefer a good series over another David Ridley prequel, for sure.
Shorts would be my pick, but shorts would probably pump up the costs.
Totally, Fargo is amazing. I couldn't really get into Legion though it was a little too non-linear and all over the place for me.
He's also making the jump to film with his feature film debut Lucy In The Sky, talked to someone who has seen it and they really liked it. Plus, Noah revealed that Marvel's Feige Kevin met with him about continuing work on his Doctor Doom script.
therefore your name should have been mentioned, because its a piece to the puzzle.
I dont care where you started, I dont care about your history, none of that is relevant to me just posting my video. again, lets not be petty or childish about it all. you dont have the monopoly. let your journalism do the talking if you're so confident in it
anyway, this has been, something, im off like I said I was, if you want to contact me directly, my email address is in every video description.
Fair enough, I guess nobody needs to be friends.
I think I'd respect that video more if you weren't calling me out by name and instead of simply mentioning my outlet which is the norm, and then trying to insert yourself when you offer next to zero of your own information and seemingly really only have a semantics issue. So yeah, I feel that is trying to make it personal from my perspective. Editorials are fine when the person does them isn't acting as a gatekeeper to the franchise being covered and seemingly more concerned about their own status of information sharing. I get people are super protective of this stuff. I started out here on the boards of AVPGalaxy in the early 2000s before I assume most people currently on here were even born. I also cover many many different projects and have a long-standing record of reporting stuff beyond this franchise. I wish I could see this video as some vetting of the stuff I put out but it feels/sounds a little more accusatory and petty.
in editorials you can reference, journalism by definition is the following - "the activity or profession of writing for newspapers, magazines, or news websites or preparing news to be broadcast"
that accounts for editorials and opinion pieces, I sourced the facts, which I say in the video and I link in the description box, thats journalism, by literal definition.......
I have no axe to grind, I merely plotted everything, I referenced everything, I gave every fact there was, even the ones that had been left out from your article I believe, I even referenced myself.
but this is just journalism, just another opinion, why should yours be the only one in the mix? you dont have a monopoly on this and when I clearly see some misreporting, I wanted to outline the entire facts. a pitch, is not, absolutely not, development.
appreciate the incredibly kind gesture of unblocking me, but I won't be graciously accepting. I literally only came here to post my video, because I felt the opposing view was a good one. and then you said I had an axe to grind, which is incorrect. completely.
take care
If you were sharing an opinion you should have been a little more upfront it was just an opinion and you don't have a lot of your own information to refute things, making an opinion video isn't actual journalism it's just an editorial. Journalism is sourcing which we did and why we may have actually mentioned Noah Hawley in our reporting from January, which you pointed out. Everything is up in the air at Fox as Disney cleans house and what does and doesn't get made is very unclear. I wouldn't be making any declarations that stuff won't be made when you have no idea what Alan Horn will be doing with the IP within the next year.
If you want to hash this out on Twitter we can, I'll unblock you right now. I don't hold grudges but I don't like letting my temper get the best of me so I removed you before that even took.
lets not be petty, nothing about my post or my video shows I have an axe to grind.
on the contrary, its just journalism, you have to quote, you have to reference. again, lets not be childish here. its standard journalism practices.
"Details are scarce at the moment but there might be multiple seasons that could tackle different corners/eras of the franchise, not unlike Noah Hawley's series Fargo."
https://twitter.com/HNEsocial/status/1095816659808501761
Full disclosure myself and Mr. H had a bit of a blowout last month and he has a bit of an axe to grind with myself.
I highly doubt any of those will be the alien franchise.
the same article being used to try and confirm something, also proves its false. enjoy.
https://youtu.be/UW1vDm000yE
I still want Ridley's third prequel to take precedence, but if we are going to delve into Alien as a miniseries, Hawley is a pretty excellent choice to hand the reigns to.
No doubt.
Rick can throat bite a dudes esophagus out, but the dirtiest thing I remember anybody saying was when dude asked to see Hershel's stump. Granted, it was important data
Yeah, back when I actually watched The Walking Dead, it wound/cracked me up no end that you could see a zombie tear a man's eyeball out with its teeth, but heaven forbid you see a nipple or someone saying a swears!
100% Correct Huggs?
Is someone being payed off in 4k discs?
https://i.imgur.com/HYAJ5J8.gif
It beggars the imagination that someone could be fine with violence and Gore, but not okay with the f word. Talk about screwed up values.