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Alien: Isolation – The Digital Series Discussion – AvP Galaxy Podcast #82

We have just uploaded the 82nd episode of the Alien vs. Predator Galaxy Podcast (right-click and save as to download)! Our latest episode sees Corporal Hicks, RidgeTop and Xenomorphine reconvene to discuss and review the recently released Alien: Isolation – The Digital Series.

 Alien: Isolation - The Digital Series Discussion - AvP Galaxy Podcast #82

We discuss the quality of the different sources of the footage, alternate ideas for the series, desires for larger budget animated Alien features and plenty more!

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  1. Perfect-Organism
    Quote from: David's Creation on Mar 22, 2019, 12:39:03 AM
    *plop*

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2JlTvTG_6D0

    Thanks for that!


    Thanks for another great pod-cast.  It's fairly accurate.  I haven't watched the series since the first time when it was released.  I am just watching it again now as I am working on a design project.  It's playing on my iPad as I work.  Mind you, I am watching the fully linked up version which was recently released here by David's Creation.  I have to say, it's very much enjoyable.  It works as a unified film.  It's certainly not annoying me as I'm working.
  2. Hudson
    Quote from: SiL on Mar 08, 2019, 09:42:08 PM
    Quote from: Hudson on Mar 08, 2019, 03:56:43 PM
    the fact that
    Spoiler
    the core consideration seems to be boyfriend/girlfriend heartbreak is kind of lame when the first two games seem much more focused on commentary regarding organized religion, cults, etc.
    [close]
    Spoiler
    Did we play the same games? The entire first game is you trying to find your dead girlfriend while keeping the ship from falling apart. The second game is heavier on the religious aspect, but still features your dead ex girlfriend repeatedly trying to murder you until you can partially lobotomise yourself to get over her. The games were always about the relationships first, with the religion and world building around it.
    [close]

    You're not wrong, but I think I'm mostly thinking of the character in 3, the captain (it's been a while since I've played it). His inclusion turns everything into something that feels different and petty. The first two games are more psychological while the 3rd is something else. Still need to finish it.
  3. BlazinBlueReview
    I tried watching The Digital Series. It was a bit difficult. I've played a small portion of the game. (Got to the part where had to get a key card while avoiding the Alien) It felt jarring seeing the Amanda model. The background plate was off as well. I give them points for having the thought of it. But the way it was handled was a little subpar. Or should I say more whelmed than anything.

    However, this has turned my attention to this Youtube gameplay movie. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lbp-01epFmk
  4. SiL
    Quote from: Hudson on Mar 08, 2019, 03:56:43 PM
    the fact that
    Spoiler
    the core consideration seems to be boyfriend/girlfriend heartbreak is kind of lame when the first two games seem much more focused on commentary regarding organized religion, cults, etc.
    [close]
    Spoiler
    Did we play the same games? The entire first game is you trying to find your dead girlfriend while keeping the ship from falling apart. The second game is heavier on the religious aspect, but still features your dead ex girlfriend repeatedly trying to murder you until you can partially lobotomise yourself to get over her. The games were always about the relationships first, with the religion and world building around it.
    [close]
  5. Bad Replicant
    I liked it. There were obviously limitations they were working with, but is what it is and didn't ruin it for me. The way a lot of the sequences were put together was beautiful IMO, especially with the music.
  6. Hudson
    Quote from: The Old One on Mar 08, 2019, 12:45:16 PM
    Both entries, Mass Effect 3 and Dead Space 3 became compromised by Electronic Art's interference.

    Leading to the indirect downfall of both Visceral Games and Bioware.

    Neither are awful games, they just have awful rushed parts.

    I don't think either game is bad, but both trilogies are similar in that Parts 1 & 2 are one thing while Part 3 feels like another thing.

    To be fair, I haven't finished Dead Space 3 yet. But beyond the gameplay itself being quite a departure to the uniform consistency of Dead Space 1 & 2 (think consistency as in Gears of War 1/2/3 consistency), the fact that
    Spoiler
    the core consideration seems to be boyfriend/girlfriend heartbreak is kind of lame when the first two games seem much more focused on commentary regarding organized religion, cults, etc.
    [close]
  7. Corporal Hicks
    Quote from: Kradan on Mar 07, 2019, 05:49:02 PM
    Just curious: where did you get image for this podcast from? Alien head looks similiar to Covenant one, doesn't it?

    I think it's some of the Alien artwork from the Isolation press material. This was just another press material piece too.


    Quote from: CainsSon on Mar 08, 2019, 04:37:14 AM
    I'd actually prefer to see this story theatrically to most things, and Im not 100% sold on the idea of Amanda continuing on for long. I like the character but at this point it's starting to get absolutely ridiculous to keep assuming all of the stories in the franchise have been covered up by the company.

    To be fair, we only know her story extends as far as Resistance. We don't know how much further it goes or how far Fox is going to be taking Amanda.

    QuoteIf they want to keep the franchise going the need to make a theatrical film or TV series, that addresses some degree of what is going on in WY. The suspension of disbelief required to swallow all of this having been swept under a rug is just silly and is just no longer working IMO.

    Or perhaps something that gives a better understanding of the workings of the Company. I know how shit big companies are at internal communication so I wouldn't be surprised at all to see different elements of WY working towards the same ends but without awareness of each other. That's completely in the realms of possibility from my own experiences. Perhaps, it might just be good to see that in more black and white for people.

    QuoteI still would be thrilled to see a proper animated / computer-animated Alien series in the vein of Final Fantasy, as Hicks mentioned. I especially thing this is the only way AVP will ever work theatrically, but they need to go back to the source, and make a film that links WY's perspective to all these events while maintaining the air of mystique ALIEN and A:Isolation managed to embody.

    I'd be more excited for something like this - especially an animated AvP, whether it gets a theatrical release or not - than a new Ridley Scott film. This has been something I've wanted since that first viewing of Final Fantasy and those early morning showings of Roughneck Chronicles.
  8. CainsSon
    Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Mar 06, 2019, 01:59:42 PM
    Podcast discussion/review is up. :) https://www.avpgalaxy.net/2019/03/06/alien-isolation-the-digital-series-discussion-avp-galaxy-podcast-82/

    And YouTube:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E9Nzf477FAc

    Listening to this made me realize that I was focusing entirely on the positives. I mean, I certainly noticed a lot of the negatives (especially the poor animation and horrible editing) but there were things like the "epilogue" and the surreal dream sequencs that I liked so much and have wanted to see in an Alien story for so long, that I think I wasn't judging the thing as a whole. As one of you mentioned that is the only fair way to judge something like that and I'll have to admit that as a whole, its a mess. There is some imagery and art direction in there which rivals some of the best the franchise has to offer, but the framework doesnt really hold together. Too bad the rest of it was so rushed because I feel that there are sequences that really work littered among and otherwise slap-dash presentation.
    I'd actually prefer to see this story theatrically to most things, and Im not 100% sold on the idea of Amanda continuing on for long. I like the character but at this point it's starting to get absolutely ridiculous to keep assuming all of the stories in the franchise have been covered up by the company.

    If they want to keep the franchise going the need to make a theatrical film or TV series, that addresses some degree of what is going on in WY. The suspension of disbelief required to swallow all of this having been swept under a rug is just silly and is just no longer working IMO.

    I still would be thrilled to see a proper animated / computer-animated Alien series in the vein of Final Fantasy, as Hicks mentioned. I especially thing this is the only way AVP will ever work theatrically, but they need to go back to the source, and make a film that links WY's perspective to all these events while maintaining the air of mystique ALIEN and A:Isolation managed to embody.
  9. Corporal Hicks
    Quote from: Frosty Venom on Mar 07, 2019, 11:15:10 AM
    I particularly liked these shots.

    https://scontent.fper6-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.15752-9/53325241_361340287795539_243126871582048256_n.jpg?_nc_cat=103&_nc_ht=scontent.fper6-1.fna&oh=f27ebf29f5f6f992e073a3fd2ab02265&oe=5D265CFB
    https://scontent.fper6-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.15752-9/53352651_430289741060697_4503368562424938496_n.jpg?_nc_cat=109&_nc_ht=scontent.fper6-1.fna&oh=c9811e7b2e39e4aa5a1a3e3f71b23154&oe=5D279C05
    https://scontent.fper6-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.15752-9/54255362_1265732086937717_3514605445220139008_n.jpg?_nc_cat=101&_nc_ht=scontent.fper6-1.fna&oh=35d1a8c2c13f4c56acf0fe7e5b84fdc6&oe=5D202E85

    Gorgeous. I loved so many of the free flying shots of the Alien in this.


    Quote from: The Old One on Mar 07, 2019, 11:23:02 AM
    The 4K 100%'s a superior version.
    Picture's better, sound is better.
    https://tinyurl.com/DGeoffAlien4K

    Perhaps. It's just not something I picked up on.
  10. Frosty Venom
    Episode 5 and 7 were my favourites. The conclusion and epilogue were pretty great.

    I particularly liked these shots.

    https://scontent.fper6-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.15752-9/53325241_361340287795539_243126871582048256_n.jpg?_nc_cat=103&_nc_ht=scontent.fper6-1.fna&oh=f27ebf29f5f6f992e073a3fd2ab02265&oe=5D265CFB
    https://scontent.fper6-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.15752-9/53352651_430289741060697_4503368562424938496_n.jpg?_nc_cat=109&_nc_ht=scontent.fper6-1.fna&oh=c9811e7b2e39e4aa5a1a3e3f71b23154&oe=5D279C05
    https://scontent.fper6-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.15752-9/54255362_1265732086937717_3514605445220139008_n.jpg?_nc_cat=101&_nc_ht=scontent.fper6-1.fna&oh=35d1a8c2c13f4c56acf0fe7e5b84fdc6&oe=5D202E85
  11. SiL
    Downfall is a really rushed mess (pacing wise), doesn't line up with the game it's supposed to explain, and just feels cheap through and through. I like it -- and Dead Space -- but it's not the quality I'd want from an Alien animated film.
  12. HuDaFuK
    I absolutely loved the first Dead Space, so I'm still not entirely sure why I never got around to any of the sequels.

    Always said the original was the best Alien game ever made until Isolation came around, it just didn't have the Alien in it.
  13. Corporal Hicks
    Quote from: XenoHunter99 on Mar 07, 2019, 05:12:28 AM
    Hicks, glad to know I'm not the only one who picked up a 2001: A Space Odyssey vibe about the dream sequence. Yes, the heads were odd and surreal. I'm sure that was the point.

    I haven't seen anyone else mention that. Glad it wasn't just me!

    QuoteXenomorphine, I agree the function of the web series was to bring casual fans and people who did not play Isolation into the fold, and it worked. And you're right, it was no doubt a lot of work on no budget.

    It does seem to be doing pretty well with the people who never got to experience the game so it seems to have done the job in that respect!

    QuoteI agree Alien/Aliens stories could work as animated features. Deadspace:Downfall, anyone? That's a festival of blood! And a guilty pleasire. Dead Space:Aftermath is interesting and brutal, too.

    Another Deadspace fan! The Old One will be pleased! I've still not played it myself but it's installed and waiting for the time.
  14. Prez
    Quote from: XenoHunter99 on Mar 07, 2019, 05:12:28 AM
    Podcast: complete. Good job, as usual.

    Hicks, glad to know I'm not the only one who picked up a 2001: A Space Odyssey vibe about the dream sequence. Yes, the heads were odd and surreal. I'm sure that was the point.

    Xenomorphine, I agree the function of the web series was to bring casual fans and people who did not play Isolation into the fold, and it worked. And you're right, it was no doubt a lot of work on no budget.

    Personally, I'm completely repulsed by the idea of sitting through the further adventures of Amanda Ripley, but I guess other people like it.

    Ridgetop, you really like AVPR?! That's great! I enjoyed it in the theater. It was a hoot and a good popcorn movie. It's a shame the TV commercial gave away everything including the end. I watched it again recently and it still wasn't horrible. It's got some good points, some really disgusting ideas brought to life, a couple of darkly humorous sight gags, and some bad points, but OK!

    I agree Alien/Aliens stories could work as animated features. Deadspace:Downfall, anyone? That's a festival of blood! And a guilty pleasire. Dead Space:Aftermath is interesting and brutal, too.

    It's a shame 4K doesn't reveal more detail in the film, but I guess the source has resolution limits. It was shot 40 years ago, so maybe the greater wonder is that it's still important enough to receive special treatment.

    Anyway, thanks for the discussion.

    I concur. Enjoyable podcast as usual. Even as someone who hasn't played the game a whole lot (but is a big admirer) I took Xenomorphine's line in that it was free, enjoyable for what it was and didn't kill any buzz for me. That said I totally appreciate those who have lived and breathed the game being disappointed.
  15. XenoHunter99
    Podcast: complete. Good job, as usual.

    Hicks, glad to know I'm not the only one who picked up a 2001: A Space Odyssey vibe about the dream sequence. Yes, the heads were odd and surreal. I'm sure that was the point.

    Xenomorphine, I agree the function of the web series was to bring casual fans and people who did not play Isolation into the fold, and it worked. And you're right, it was no doubt a lot of work on no budget.

    Personally, I'm completely repulsed by the idea of sitting through the further adventures of Amanda Ripley, but I guess other people like it.

    Ridgetop, you really like AVPR?! That's great! I enjoyed it in the theater. It was a hoot and a good popcorn movie. It's a shame the TV commercial gave away everything including the end. I watched it again recently and it still wasn't horrible. It's got some good points, some really disgusting ideas brought to life, a couple of darkly humorous sight gags, and some bad points, but OK!

    I agree Alien/Aliens stories could work as animated features. Deadspace:Downfall, anyone? That's a festival of blood! And a guilty pleasire. Dead Space:Aftermath is interesting and brutal, too.

    It's a shame 4K doesn't reveal more detail in the film, but I guess the source has resolution limits. It was shot 40 years ago, so maybe the greater wonder is that it's still important enough to receive special treatment.

    Anyway, thanks for the discussion.
  16. Hudson
    w/r/t the podcast:

    I think it was just Amanda's voice reading Ripley's dialogue because they would've had to pay Sigourney Weaver to use her likeness. Same thing with Michael Biehn and Hicks in Alien 3.
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