Update 24th September – Per Box Office Mojo, the Domestic total now sits at $40,435,122 and $54,539,316 outside of the States, taking the Worldwide earnings to $94, 974, 438 and has now taken in more than its reported budget.
Amidst mixed reviews and the Steven Striegel scandal, The Predator debuted on the lower end of expectations with $24 million for the weekend. According to Box Office Mojo, the film has only grossed $31,735,122 domestically so far which is a slightly worse opening 8 day week than Predators’ which took $35,457,190.
The film only earned $2.45 million on it’s second Friday which according to Forbes is a 76% drop in takings. They are also projecting an $8 million weekend and $39.735m ten-day total. The Predator has also taken in $35,742,004 outside of the States, taking the film’s worldwide earnings to $69,927,126.
20th Century Fox’s The Predator took a huge 76% dive on Friday, earning just $2.45 million on its second Friday. That positions the $88m Shane Black-directed movie for an $8m (-68%) weekend and $39.735m ten-day cume. Its drop is right in line with Alien: Covenant (-80%) and Predators (-79%) on their second Fridays. General audiences didn’t care about another Predator movie and the hardcore fans showed up last weekend. The poor reviews, the whole “don’t hire a registered sex offender without telling anyone” scandal and the wealth of other options did this one in. If I were Skydance and Paramount, I’d be very nervous about that Terminator reboot.
Last year’s Alien: Covenant had a similar steep drop off, despite generally more positive critical reviews at the time. Predators also suffered a 79% drop for its second weekend. All three movies suffered from some very negative word of mouth.
Unfortunately it’s not looking likely that the film will recoup it’s $88 million budget domestically. I don’t think it would reaching to say that those two sequels that John Davis previously spoke of aren’t looking like a possibility.
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Something like that. I find it hard to believe it will make over 2 times its budget. China will decide its fate.
So ultimately I think we'll never know. It will always remain a guessing game, especially when gauging a state of "breaking even" with movies that are just moderately successful.
Anyone want to stab a guess where it will end up? Maybe 160 Mill?
A netfix series or equivalent is also a possibility, but that idea might live or die on how successful the Alien series is (if it even comes to fruition).
Good enough to venture another one in ten years or so, unless Disney puts the lid on it.
I'd try establishing a more linked universe on the background through videogames and combine it with a properly planned roadmap for the franchise instead of just pop them out like firecrackers with no sense of direction other than try different approaches.
Domestic is overrated.
I stand by it.
I hate being almost right.
The odds of that though. It's such a shame. I thought his style meshed quite well with the franchise.
New stories, new characters- new vision.
Alien³ revision? David Fincher, no other.
As for Alien 3. To some it's great. To some it's terrible. Either way, after the different cuts, it's as good as it's going to get. It was made, it has it's place. Retconning it with something else is just like probing around in an old wound. For good or bad, it's in slot number 3. Best not to pollute it further with even more craziness like retconning.
With regards to the future of the franchise on film, somebody in charge needs to remember that it takes place in the future. Humans are working in space. Hypersleep is a reality. The money and manpower apparently exist to send regular people across vast distances, just for Ore. Something tells me it's quite possible for people other than the Ripley's to run into something nasty out there in the dark. I'd like to see some new characters, in new situations, that don't involve the past, or over-emphasis on artificial intelligence. We've yet to see the future, post Ripley. At least, not one that can be taken seriously.
Anyway, we are off topic, but we were talking about future films. Isolation has enough in it that it could be made into a good film. The main character just has to start on one value, and end up on another.
A3 is perfect (almost) for what it tries to be. An alternate telling of a post-Aliens reality may also be perfect.
I love Isolation, as Isolation.
Perhaps the novelisation's a superior candidate?
For a video game, yes. For a film, I'm not so sure. There is a lot of longueur in the game. If you bring it down to 2 hours, what really happened in the game? How did Amanda's character value change? Did she start at one place and end up at another in terms of who she is? If not, it won't be compelling on film. Something else needs to take place there.
& so is A3.
The Cold Forge proves sequels, with no relation to the original-
have the potential to be just as, if not more compelling than the original.
(Prometheus should have been that sequel, and set after AR, but it failed in its' writing.)
(It will happen again, this time correctly- someday.)
Nobody wants to direct that sequel. You're asking for prequels, or side-quels, i.e. stories that have no relation to the core story which revolved around Ripley. I can't imagine any director clamoring to direct that either.
Any new films should focus on all new characters born after her death, and ones that are not related to, nor resemble her in any way.
Embracing Nostalgia for the sake of money is a good way to screw up a franchise. It's always best to quit while ahead. Ripley quit on Fury 161. I hope the studio respects that narrative choice, lest they should turn Alien into the Terminator franchise.
New sequel after A3, or Resurrection.
No Ellen Ripley.
I've been saying this for awhile. And it's not just a matter of an actor/actress passing away, they may also choose to retire at any time. I'm sure people like Arnold and Weaver will keep going as long as possible. But, there might come a day when either wishes to call it a career, and go enjoy their remaining years how they see fit.
It's only over in 1 fictional timeline. By most accounts, it ended in a very unsatisfying way. A continuation of Ripley's story along a different path could be quite compelling if done well. Many other stories could also be compelling. However many of the other stories don't have a clock ticking for them. The remaining stars of Aliens are getting older, and their chance to participate in a good Aliens film is not without limits.
I think there is something to be said for using a popular cast which people are rooting for. These are Aliens films, granted, but they are still people stories. Without a connection to the people, the stories can easily become uprooted, or without a foundation. An exploration of the world of the Aliens without the core characters is what the Silmarillion is to the LOTR series.
It's very likely France will be no exception and it will do a little more than Predators, which would be 4 - 5 million. We'll see.
Trust me, it won't do those numbers in France
Exactly!
I smile everytime someone says "Predator is done"... it truly is not, the possibilities and storys are endless with the character, it's one of the advantages of not having the franchise connected to a single character, also the character is so versatile, the variations and costumes, weapons, armour... you can start fresh with every sequel and still have it play in the same sandbox.
I'm pretty damn happy that i get the chance to visit my favourite movie monster every couple of years in a real movie theater.
Compare it to other monster/Sci-fi franchises over the years, just a couple that pop up in my mind:
Tremors --> Direct to DvD
Pumpkinhead --> Direct to DvD --> Dead
Starship Troopers --> Direct to DvD
Critters --> Direct to DvD --> Dead
X-Tro --> Direct to DvD --> Dead
The Thing --> Dead
Predator is actually doing pretty good, in comparison. The fans are still there, and while it's not doing Blockbuster numbers, there is still money to be made.
Hopefully not profitable enough for them to move forward with a sequel to The Predator.
Just enough to see something new (again...).
"It won't make any difference."
I knew Gerald Butler. He was an a**hole.
I can't argue with that.
I agree on numerous points regarding bad execution (there are also greatly executed shots/ideas too), but we must admit that for a classic predator fan it was always deemed to be a very weird and polarizing experience.
It has a fair amount of Shane Black's vision in it IMO, but also a lot of studio meddling obviously. But Black was always going to do his thing, put his balls on the table and say "f**k it all i'll try to do it my way, but it has to be set in the predator universe", with all the problems we know that resulted from that.
It is felt throughout the film and I don't think this film is Shane Black's vision.