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AMC Theatres have just shared a short but sweet behind-the-scenes featurette that is full of behind-the-scenes footage, some new footage from the film and short interview clips with the cast of The Predator and Shane Black himself! Beware spoilers.

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  1. Corporal Hicks
    Quote from: Wysps on Sep 03, 2018, 07:45:04 PM
    Exactly, maybe a smaller Bad Blood who fights really dirty (the proverbial raping and pillaging). Or a Trojan horse type scenario, with a "benevolent" Predator that uses humanity for its own gain. There are plenty of routes that can be taken. I do feel that the continuous upgrading of the Predator after each movie is concerning, but it doesn't necessarily spell the death of the original Predators and how they can still be the main antagonists in future films.

    I wouldn't say it was continuous. It was an old concept for the last one, it's actually been realised in this one.
  2. PredBabe
    Quote from: Wysps on Sep 03, 2018, 07:45:04 PM
    Quote from: Danversity on Sep 02, 2018, 09:38:47 PM
    Quote from: Huggs on Sep 02, 2018, 08:20:22 PM
    I don't think it's a matter of 10' creatures forever. But in the last movie we had the beserkers, now we have the upgrade. That's two movies in a row where the classic predator has been outmatched by larger/stronger hybrids. There's only so many times this can be done before people start wondering, "are the classic predators just the Kevin Hart's of their species?".

    I'm all for seeing new and awesome things, but the bigger and badder the new predators get, the less ferocious the originals become.

    I don't think I have the slightest problem with that. Because yes, from a biological, physical point of view, the original Predators are the weakest ones. Fine. That doesn't mean that they're always gonna be the least dangerous ones. In a future movie, a smaller, traditional Predator may very well be shown as more dangerous than anything else just because of a specific set of skills he has that other original Predators didn't have, or for being more intelligent, his hunting tactics and everything. That's absolutely normal and a very strong possibility.

    Exactly, maybe a smaller Bad Blood who fights really dirty (the proverbial raping and pillaging). Or a Trojan horse type scenario, with a "benevolent" Predator that uses humanity for its own gain. There are plenty of routes that can be taken. I do feel that the continuous upgrading of the Predator after each movie is concerning, but it doesn't necessarily spell the death of the original Predators and how they can still be the main antagonists in future films.

    :o

    "Not unless I consent, Mr. Yautja. You're not nice like Scar!"
  3. Wysps
    Quote from: Danversity on Sep 02, 2018, 09:38:47 PM
    Quote from: Huggs on Sep 02, 2018, 08:20:22 PM
    I don't think it's a matter of 10' creatures forever. But in the last movie we had the beserkers, now we have the upgrade. That's two movies in a row where the classic predator has been outmatched by larger/stronger hybrids. There's only so many times this can be done before people start wondering, "are the classic predators just the Kevin Hart's of their species?".

    I'm all for seeing new and awesome things, but the bigger and badder the new predators get, the less ferocious the originals become.

    I don't think I have the slightest problem with that. Because yes, from a biological, physical point of view, the original Predators are the weakest ones. Fine. That doesn't mean that they're always gonna be the least dangerous ones. In a future movie, a smaller, traditional Predator may very well be shown as more dangerous than anything else just because of a specific set of skills he has that other original Predators didn't have, or for being more intelligent, his hunting tactics and everything. That's absolutely normal and a very strong possibility.

    Exactly, maybe a smaller Bad Blood who fights really dirty (the proverbial raping and pillaging). Or a Trojan horse type scenario, with a "benevolent" Predator that uses humanity for its own gain. There are plenty of routes that can be taken. I do feel that the continuous upgrading of the Predator after each movie is concerning, but it doesn't necessarily spell the death of the original Predators and how they can still be the main antagonists in future films.
  4. Corporal Hicks
    Quote from: Huggs on Sep 02, 2018, 08:20:22 PM
    Quote from: Danversity on Sep 02, 2018, 08:14:51 PM
    They already made it clear several times that Upgrade is ONE guy who was especially made for this. The franchise won't become a 10-foot tall Predator party, especially after the Upgrade fails in his mission in this one. Just like Aliens didn't shove the Alien Queen in every movie after she appeared. They're gonna do something else, and whatever it is we're just gonna have to wait and see.

    I don't think it's a matter of 10' creatures forever. But in the last movie we had the beserkers, now we have the upgrade. That's two movies in a row where the classic predator has been outmatched by larger/stronger hybrids. There's only so many times this can be done before people start wondering, "are the classic predators just the Kevin Hart's of their species?".

    I'm all for seeing new and awesome things, but the bigger and badder the new predators get, the less ferocious the originals become.

    The Berserkers weren't the Super Predators in the end. Depending on how much of the concept makes it through in the end, the Upgrade could be a legitimate "super" Predator. Regardless, this time around it will be visibly at least more physically bigger than the original.

    And besides...we've seen Predators bested by small monkeys for ages too. They don't just lose to their own kind too.  :P
  5. Danversity
    Quote from: Huggs on Sep 02, 2018, 08:20:22 PM
    Quote from: Danversity on Sep 02, 2018, 08:14:51 PM
    They already made it clear several times that Upgrade is ONE guy who was especially made for this. The franchise won't become a 10-foot tall Predator party, especially after the Upgrade fails in his mission in this one. Just like Aliens didn't shove the Alien Queen in every movie after she appeared. They're gonna do something else, and whatever it is we're just gonna have to wait and see.

    I don't think it's a matter of 10' creatures forever. But in the last movie we had the beserkers, now we have the upgrade. That's two movies in a row where the classic predator has been outmatched by larger/stronger hybrids. There's only so many times this can be done before people start wondering, "are the classic predators just the Kevin Hart's of their species?".

    I'm all for seeing new and awesome things, but the bigger and badder the new predators get, the less ferocious the originals become.

    I don't think I have the slightest problem with that. Because yes, from a biological, physical point of view, the original Predators are the weakest ones. Fine. That doesn't mean that they're always gonna be the least dangerous ones. In a future movie, a smaller, traditional Predator may very well be shown as more dangerous than anything else just because of a specific set of skills he has that other original Predators didn't have, or for being more intelligent, his hunting tactics and everything. That's absolutely normal and a very strong possibility.
  6. Nathsp
    Quote from: Huggs on Sep 02, 2018, 08:20:22 PM
    Quote from: Danversity on Sep 02, 2018, 08:14:51 PM
    They already made it clear several times that Upgrade is ONE guy who was especially made for this. The franchise won't become a 10-foot tall Predator party, especially after the Upgrade fails in his mission in this one. Just like Aliens didn't shove the Alien Queen in every movie after she appeared. They're gonna do something else, and whatever it is we're just gonna have to wait and see.

    I don't think it's a matter of 10' creatures forever. But in the last movie we had the beserkers, now we have the upgrade. That's two movies in a row where the classic predator has been outmatched by larger/stronger hybrids. There's only so many times this can be done before people start wondering, "are the classic predators just the Kevin Hart's of their species?".

    I'm all for seeing new and awesome things, but the bigger and badder the new predators get, the less ferocious the originals become.
    100 % agree, look jurassic world, now a hybrid of a hybrid, and you just think how ended like this, how a magic dinosaur franchice ended in a movie about a hybrid monster killing people in a mansion...
  7. Huggs
    Quote from: Danversity on Sep 02, 2018, 08:14:51 PM
    They already made it clear several times that Upgrade is ONE guy who was especially made for this. The franchise won't become a 10-foot tall Predator party, especially after the Upgrade fails in his mission in this one. Just like Aliens didn't shove the Alien Queen in every movie after she appeared. They're gonna do something else, and whatever it is we're just gonna have to wait and see.

    I don't think it's a matter of 10' creatures forever. But in the last movie we had the beserkers, now we have the upgrade. That's two movies in a row where the classic predator has been outmatched by larger/stronger hybrids. There's only so many times this can be done before people start wondering, "are the classic predators just the Kevin Hart's of their species?".

    I'm all for seeing new and awesome things, but the bigger and badder the new predators get, the less ferocious the originals become.
  8. Danversity
    They already made it clear several times that Upgrade is ONE guy who was especially made for this. The franchise won't become a 10-foot tall Predator party, especially after the Upgrade fails in his mission in this one. Just like Aliens didn't shove the Alien Queen in every movie after she appeared. They're gonna do something else, and whatever it is we're just gonna have to wait and see.
  9. huntin8-t0n
    I like predators as they were in the first two movies. I really hope key elements about them won't change, and this movie will not be going in the direction of turning the creature any its mythos to be just another evil sci-fi villain.

    If the canges feel right, respect the predecessor and make room for thoughts to come, it's good. I hope the whole upgrade concept will do that.

    On the other hand, and for me this is really sad, I think introducing something like the Upgrade was inevitable. Not because the creature alone wouldn't stand its ground, but because there were so many f*ck ups about the franchise since P1, they are desperately trying to find something to lure the audience in. That's just sad.

  10. Immortan Jonesy
    Quote from: yautjapet on Sep 01, 2018, 10:25:58 PM
    Quote from: Huggs on Sep 01, 2018, 10:13:15 PM
    This is all too ironically similar to the Indominous Rex concept.

    I feel like saying "They're predators, wow enough."

    That's how I feel about it. They're already imposing and interesting enough. I think it was Shane who said we can't just do a rehash of the original movie because what made it tense and frightening won't necessarily work again, since we as audiences know the predator now, and I agree... but they can't think of anything to keep a ruthless, brutal, cunning, mysterious alien hunter scary without doing a "bigger and better" hybrid thing...?

    Ala Jurassic World or not, they are just expanding the bestiary (for better or worse) just like the Alien franchise...

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  11. PredBabe
    What's done is done with this movie and I think the saving grace is the design choice they went with for the Upgrade. It's not out of the realm of possibility for them to get as large as Upgrade. Any bigger though and we will be treading in some awful storytelling and design territory. A few shots do look a little too CGI (like when he's roaring) but, as a whole, it seems  acceptable for the species mythos.

    I also hope this movie is a complete success but I'm ok with the series going into hibernation for a bit before another sequel emerges. Personally, I like that each sequel, so far, has been more standalone rather than direct sequels. Little call backs to previous films is ok but I don't care to see an all out Independence Day-Predator series unfold after this one. 

    Of course any Predator movie should revolve around the hunt but I think a big thing that helps keep these types of stories fresh is the different settings. It would be cool to see a Predator movie set in the old west (or another time period), but I get how that is something big studios are not looking to put money towards. I think the upgrade/bad blood concept is a fresh and viable route to take sequel films however. Perhaps take a story back on another hunting planet or, dare I say, their home world. Execution is everything but it's easy to see how that could completely ruin the image of the creature and the series for good too.

    Heres hoping the video game industry puts out a new Predator game or two that is willing to unveil the species in certain ways that probably wouldn't work in movie format. Frankly, I'd rather see a detailed Predator games than unoriginal sequels pushed out by a film studio.
  12. yautjapet
    Quote from: Huggs on Sep 01, 2018, 10:13:15 PM
    This is all too ironically similar to the Indominous Rex concept.

    I feel like saying "They're predators, wow enough."

    That's how I feel about it. They're already imposing and interesting enough. I think it was Shane who said we can't just do a rehash of the original movie because what made it tense and frightening won't necessarily work again, since we as audiences know the predator now, and I agree... but they can't think of anything to keep a ruthless, brutal, cunning, mysterious alien hunter scary without doing a "bigger and better" hybrid thing...?
  13. Nathsp
    Next movie will be a predator hybrid tall as a building fighting with godzilla and people will say its amazing idea...
    How i wish they put out a movie like modern mad max, new but not shitty new.
  14. Huggs
    Quote from: The Old One on Sep 01, 2018, 04:06:35 AM
    Anybody got any bright ideas for the future of "Predator" as a franchise that isn't leeching off Alien?

    Can't say I do. I just hope they clamp a lid on this thing before it gets any bigger. Before giant predators are running everywhere and everybody knows about them. Before we have the predator military vs the human military. Before this turns into Lord of the Rings or Jurassic World. I hope classic predators are once again elevated to a respectable level of fear, and the creature is returned to the shadows and the jungle.

    The last thing I want to see, is the predator franchise as a whole, turned into avp. And I'm honestly concerned Shane would be the one to take it there. I hope this movie does good, but not enough to warrant a sequel. Let it hibernate again for awhile and have Shane walk away. Lest we suffer the Ridley effect and begin Shane Black's predquels.
  15. Nathsp
    Im sure a movie with a pred as a protagonist, not a hero, but as a main character is more interesting than a gian cgi mutated monster with dogs that has dreads...
    You dont oftten to see a movie with a villain as protagonist, and has background to explore the pred society and rutials, but meh, lets enjoy the explosions and q big monster
  16. BigDaddyJohn
    Quote from: huntin8-t0n on Aug 31, 2018, 10:08:42 PM
    Quote from: Nathsp on Aug 31, 2018, 08:39:13 AM
    Yes I was refering to the whole idea of it, not the inteligence of the character.
    About the joker, its a comic, and the better aproach would be that now the joker become a giant mutated monster with joker dogs that also use make up...
    The predator from stan windston was perfect, the tribal aspect, the weapons, all of it make it unique, shane black removed all of this and transform it into another big cgi monster, the idea while can be great to see sounds lazy, its the same as any other modern movie, megalodon whoaaa a bigger shark...
    About the aliens, cameron remove the individual inteligence of it, but gave them something more powerfull, a society, a collective inteligence, a realistic and more efficient lifecycle.
    And dont get me wrong, i really hope the best from the movie, its just that the idea of the upgrade is to stupid, lazy and unnecesary, a smaller guy that hits hard is cooler than a big guy doing the same
    Yea, I see the point about being a lazy idea.

    The thing is he suggested only lazy ideas too, no offense, ones that children could come up with, nothing better than what this movie seem to offer.
  17. Wysps
    Well, the "upping the stakes with more dramatic and attention-grabbing threats" is par for the course - the franchise needs to progress in some form - but I'd consider having the films escalate with bigger, badder Predators each time a legitimate concern.
  18. yautjapet
    Quote from: The Shuriken on Aug 31, 2018, 10:23:52 PM
    My issues with the Upgrade Predator would be less so if...


    Spoiler
    if he didn't kill the Fugitive Predator. But the fact that he does, and essentially replaces him, just annoys me. If you wanna have a big mutant Hulk Predator going around and being a threat cool, but just don't use him to humiliate the classic creature. It's an insult.
    [close]

    I'm mean, now that "the hunt has evolved" is every future film (if we even get more) going to feature these new Upgrades? Are we never going back?

    Agreed, and good point. If
    Spoiler
    Fugitive maintained sort of an antagonist role throughout the movie with Upgrade as the core villain that needs to be stopped, and Fugitive manages to eke out a win in the end, that would be one thing... but this new mega roided out pred as the main predator of the story doesn't sit well with me.
    [close]
    And yeah, once you go the "bigger = better" route, where does it stop? Depending on how it plays out on-screen with what we've heard about Upgrade being a result of one particular faction, we don't necessarily have to revisit the DNA enhancement aspect again... but I wonder if the casual audience member is just going to remember "that huge monster predator who wrecked everyone" with the studio feeling they have to continue "upping the stakes" with more dramatic and attention-grabbing threats.
  19. The Shuriken
    My issues with the Upgrade Predator would be less so if...


    Spoiler
    if he didn't kill the Fugitive Predator. But the fact that he does, and essentially replaces him, just annoys me. If you wanna have a big mutant Hulk Predator going around and being a threat cool, but just don't use him to humiliate the classic creature. It's an insult.
    [close]

    I mean, now that "the hunt has evolved" is every future film (if we even get more) going to feature these new Upgrades? Are we never going back?
  20. huntin8-t0n
    Quote from: Nathsp on Aug 31, 2018, 08:39:13 AM
    Yes I was refering to the whole idea of it, not the inteligence of the character.
    About the joker, its a comic, and the better aproach would be that now the joker become a giant mutated monster with joker dogs that also use make up...
    The predator from stan windston was perfect, the tribal aspect, the weapons, all of it make it unique, shane black removed all of this and transform it into another big cgi monster, the idea while can be great to see sounds lazy, its the same as any other modern movie, megalodon whoaaa a bigger shark...
    About the aliens, cameron remove the individual inteligence of it, but gave them something more powerfull, a society, a collective inteligence, a realistic and more efficient lifecycle.
    And dont get me wrong, i really hope the best from the movie, its just that the idea of the upgrade is to stupid, lazy and unnecesary, a smaller guy that hits hard is cooler than a big guy doing the same

    Yea, I see the point about being a lazy idea. In many cases it happens (studio bring a bigger version of the monster and thinks it's just gonna be cooler that way). But where I think you, and many people miss the point is that a, the same type of predators are present in the movie, and seemingly they will pose a big threat, so the original character will be well represented. B, and it's very important, Assassin seems to have a different type of mindset. It doesn't seem like a mindless beast that is just bigger and cooler, but something really different. That's not the same as just making it better, it's introducing individual aspects of their species. It all depends on how they can make it work.

    To be frank, with what you said about Aliens just seems to prove this point. A different aspect was introduced, and well received by many. In my opinion it was just pointless. I hope the Assassin will not be like the Queen from Aliens.
  21. Nathsp
    Everyone has its own opinion, overkill? Dont think so, just diferent opinions, for me a regular predator is perfect as it is, i dont need a "upgrade", and dont need preds with dreads..
    In two weeks we will see, and if i enjoy the movie im gonna say it, some of the trailer looks nice
  22. BigDaddyJohn
    Quote from: Hollywood on Aug 31, 2018, 05:59:35 PM
    Quote from: Nathsp on Aug 31, 2018, 04:58:50 PM
    So rocky looks cooler being smaller than the other guy, you are agree with me then than smaller are cooler.

    Nope. The antagonist is cool being bigger. Dont be daft.

    QuoteThe tribal aspect, do you see any remains of the predator in the design,

    Definitely still looks like a predator to me.

    QuoteYou seem that dont understand me, its not the villain, its in what he has transform it, imagine that they do a movie about darth vader but now he has 4 arms and lasers in the eyes, or the next joker is now a super smart and crazy koala..

    Yeah spot on with the comparison 👍

    QuoteThe predator was already a great villain, he has transform it into a gian cgi monster, roarrr pew pew.. Its something that now is in every movie, everything has to be hulk size, and as rocky bigger is not better, i prefer the small guy hitting hard than the big cgi monster.

    Anyway I dont trust "shame" black, iron man 3 is so bad...

    "Roarrr pew pew" f**king hell, Petr, you're not fooling anyone ::)

    Well, looks like we got an overkill here  :laugh:
  23. Hollywood
    Quote from: Nathsp on Aug 31, 2018, 04:58:50 PM
    So rocky looks cooler being smaller than the other guy, you are agree with me then than smaller are cooler.

    Nope. The antagonist is cool being bigger. Dont be daft.

    QuoteThe tribal aspect, do you see any remains of the predator in the design,

    Definitely still looks like a predator to me.

    QuoteYou seem that dont understand me, its not the villain, its in what he has transform it, imagine that they do a movie about darth vader but now he has 4 arms and lasers in the eyes, or the next joker is now a super smart and crazy koala..

    Yeah spot on with the comparison 👍

    QuoteThe predator was already a great villain, he has transform it into a gian cgi monster, roarrr pew pew.. Its something that now is in every movie, everything has to be hulk size, and as rocky bigger is not better, i prefer the small guy hitting hard than the big cgi monster.

    Anyway I dont trust "shame" black, iron man 3 is so bad...

    "Roarrr pew pew" f**king hell, Petr, you're not fooling anyone ::)
  24. Nathsp
    So rocky looks cooler being smaller than the other guy, you are agree with me then than smaller are cooler.
    The tribal aspect, do you see any remains of the predator in the design,  that modern armor of the fugitive is standard.
    You seem that dont understand me, its not the villain, its in what he has transform it, imagine that they do a movie about darth vader but now he has 4 arms and lasers in the eyes, or the next joker is now a super smart and crazy koala.. The predator was already a great villain, he has transform it into a gian cgi monster, roarrr pew pew.. Its something that now is in every movie, everything has to be hulk size, and as rocky bigger is not better, i prefer the small guy hitting hard than the big cgi monster.
    But its true that we have to wait until the movie, for me the plot seems stupid and unnecesary, and if i have a great time in the movie i will say it, damn i was sceptik about jurassic world and ended having fun in the cinema, hope it happens again.
    Anyway I dont trust "shame" black, iron man 3 is so bad...
  25. Wysps
    Quote from: Nathsp on Aug 31, 2018, 08:39:13 AM
    Yes I was refering to the whole idea of it, not the inteligence of the character.
    About the joker, its a comic, and the better aproach would be that now the joker become a giant mutated monster with joker dogs that also use make up...
    The predator from stan windston was perfect, the tribal aspect, the weapons, all of it make it unique, shane black removed all of this and transform it into another big cgi monster, the idea while can be great to see sounds lazy, its the same as any other modern movie, megalodon whoaaa a bigger shark...
    About the aliens, cameron remove the individual inteligence of it, but gave them something more powerfull, a society, a collective inteligence, a realistic and more efficient lifecycle.
    And dont get me wrong, i really hope the best from the movie, its just that the idea of the upgrade is to stupid, lazy and unnecesary, a smaller guy that hits hard is cooler than a big guy doing the same

    While I still think the premise a bit absurd and don't see Shane Black as the most appropriate person to helm the project, the film has already gone through several re-shoots, with test audiences being used as a guide to improve the story.  It also wouldn't surprise me if some important individuals lurked here to get better insight into what fans are looking forward to seeing.  What may have started as a bizarre Predator movie could potentially end up being something entertaining and maybe exceed expectations.  It would also do us all good (including me) to leave enough space in our "opinions" as we go into the movie.  We may be surprised at how enjoyable the movie is if we go in with a more open mindset.  Not necessarily open-minded per se, but a more neutral baseline instead of setting the movie up for failure from the get go.
  26. Hollywood
    Quote from: Nathsp on Aug 31, 2018, 08:39:13 AM
    About the joker, its a comic,

    So?

    Quote...and the better aproach would be that now the joker become a giant mutated monster with joker dogs that also use make up...

    The point went over your head. Your criticism is simple and based on face value of what we have. Anything can "sound dumb" on paper including one of the greatest villains ever developed in comics and on film.

    QuoteThe predator from stan windston was perfect, the tribal aspect

    You're saying the predators in this film won't have tribal characteristics and customs?

    Quotethe weapons, all of it make it unique,

    They still have weapons in this movie...

    Quoteshane black removed all of this

    You're simply wrong about that, sorry.

    Quote...and transform it into another big cgi monster, the idea while can be great to see sounds lazy, its the same as any other modern movie, megalodon whoaaa a bigger shark...

    That argument sounds lazy. Do you think the CGI looks bad? What other monsters would you compare the predator to because the megalodon is one that is rather simple-minded (and only one way of killing its victims).

    QuoteAbout the aliens, cameron remove the individual inteligence of it, but gave them something more powerfull, a society, a collective inteligence, a realistic and more efficient lifecycle.

    They're so intelligent they swarm towards their death like zombies and their realistic efficient lifecycle hinges on them seeking out lifeforms that can kill them. How many aliens died in effort to impregnate a handful of marines?

    QuoteAnd dont get me wrong, i really hope the best from the movie

    I'm sure, that's why you said "Anyway cant wait to see the movie, im curios in how much black can damage the legacy of this creature."

    Quote...its just that the idea of the upgrade is to stupid, lazy and unnecesary, a smaller guy that hits hard is cooler than a big guy doing the same

    Says who?

    Did Rocky ever fight a smaller guy that hits hard or did he beat the snot out of a giant Russian man and deliver one of the best movies in the franchise?
  27. BigDaddyJohn
    Quote from: Nathsp on Aug 31, 2018, 08:39:13 AM
    Yes I was refering to the whole idea of it, not the inteligence of the character.
    About the joker, its a comic, and the better aproach would be that now the joker become a giant mutated monster with joker dogs that also use make up...
    The predator from stan windston was perfect, the tribal aspect, the weapons, all of it make it unique, shane black removed all of this and transform it into another big cgi monster, the idea while can be great to see sounds lazy, its the same as any other modern movie, megalodon whoaaa a bigger shark...
    About the aliens, cameron remove the individual inteligence of it, but gave them something more powerfull, a society, a collective inteligence, a realistic and more efficient lifecycle.
    And dont get me wrong, i really hope the best from the movie, its just that the idea of the upgrade is to stupid, lazy and unnecesary, a smaller guy that hits hard is cooler than a big guy doing the same

    But like you said, the unique aspect of it was introduced and used pefectly in the first movie. You do the same now, and it's not unique anymore.
  28. Nathsp
    Yes I was refering to the whole idea of it, not the inteligence of the character.
    About the joker, its a comic, and the better aproach would be that now the joker become a giant mutated monster with joker dogs that also use make up...
    The predator from stan windston was perfect, the tribal aspect, the weapons, all of it make it unique, shane black removed all of this and transform it into another big cgi monster, the idea while can be great to see sounds lazy, its the same as any other modern movie, megalodon whoaaa a bigger shark...
    About the aliens, cameron remove the individual inteligence of it, but gave them something more powerfull, a society, a collective inteligence, a realistic and more efficient lifecycle.
    And dont get me wrong, i really hope the best from the movie, its just that the idea of the upgrade is to stupid, lazy and unnecesary, a smaller guy that hits hard is cooler than a big guy doing the same
  29. huntin8-t0n
    Quote from: Danversity on Aug 31, 2018, 01:23:30 AM
    And you keep at it of saying the Upgrade is "dumber", what's with this bullshit? Where did you get that from? The movie isn't even out yet, and the closest lead we've got as to the Upgrade's intelligence is how they're selling him, and they're selling him as SMARTER. Shane said it himself in tons of interviews; he's bigger, more dangerous, and smarter. Stop making assumptions, you haven't seen the movie yet. If after you see it you still wanna call the Upgrade dumb and you have good basis for that, be my guest, we're all ears. Up until then the only thing that's stupid here is to pull this argument without having even seen the thing yet.

    I think he refers to the whole idea, not the creature itself.

    @Nathsp, it's really not dumb. There are many logical aspects of it, if you think a little. A, if you've seen that preds are sports hunters, and it's just fun for them, it really pisses them off that some ape like weakling messed with their game. Some fractions might even go full crazy about it. That's how it works so many times (think as this community, no need to go far, and they're supposed to be sapient creatures as well).
    B, If they have some purpose and hunt is an active part of their society, why couldn't they use the traits of the prey/"enemy" to make themselves better. They have so many primitive aspects. Primitive tribes believed in things like this. They just have the means to make it reality.

    Aliens is not a good example imho. It expanded the universe, but at what cost? Took away the unique intelligence of the creature, made it yes, in a way more formidable, but also transformed it into something really less interesting.
  30. Danversity
    And you keep at it of saying the Upgrade is "dumber", what's with this bullshit? Where did you get that from? The movie isn't even out yet, and the closest lead we've got as to the Upgrade's intelligence is how they're selling him, and they're selling him as SMARTER. Shane said it himself in tons of interviews; he's bigger, more dangerous, and smarter. Stop making assumptions, you haven't seen the movie yet. If after you see it you still wanna call the Upgrade dumb and you have good basis for that, be my guest, we're all ears. Up until then the only thing that's stupid here is to pull this argument without having even seen the thing yet.
  31. Hollywood
    Quote from: Nathsp on Aug 30, 2018, 11:49:43 PM
    Why not make the predator the protagonist?

    Why not make him the antagonist?

    QuoteScaping from humans while kill them in revenge, expand its background as specie..

    Wow what a great idea.

    QuoteTheres plenty of better ideas than a big mutated pred with dogs with dreads.. Sounds dumb..

    Such an easy, simple-minded criticism. "Why does batman fight a guy in makeup and lipstick.. sounds dumb" ok ::)
  32. Nathsp
    Why not make the predator the protagonist? Scaping from humans while kill them in revenge, expand its background as specie.. Theres plenty of better ideas than a big mutated pred with dogs with dreads.. Sounds dumb..
  33. BigDaddyJohn
    Quote from: Nathsp on Aug 30, 2018, 11:22:21 PM
    Aliens was one of the best examples of how you expand a universe, giving something to the xeno that makes it more than a b movie monster, cameron gave the alien a realistic lifecycle, not the stupid scott mess...
    That upgrade is boring, i just rather have the fugitive only, its another "lets make it bigger and dumber". More hulks, domsdays, indominus...
    Anyway cant wait to see the movie, im curios in how much black can damage the legacy of this creature, now we even have dogs with dreads! Cmon...

    But if it didn't have the assassin and the story that goes with it, how would this universe expand in this movie if it's just a regular pred on the hunt again ?
  34. Nathsp
    Aliens was one of the best examples of how you expand a universe, giving something to the xeno that makes it more than a b movie monster, cameron gave the alien a realistic lifecycle, not the stupid scott mess...
    That upgrade is boring, i just rather have the fugitive only, its another "lets make it bigger and dumber". More hulks, domsdays, indominus...
    Anyway cant wait to see the movie, im curios in how much black can damage the legacy of this creature, now we even have dogs with dreads! Cmon...
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