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Shane Black Talks The Predator Clans, Reshoots, Alternate Cuts & Runtime

Coming of the heels of San Diego Comic Con 2018, Collider has two new interviews on The Predator. The first video features Shane Black, who starts by explaining the motivation behind the extensive third-act reshoots that the film received after its initial test screenings.

He re-iterates recent comments he’d made in Empire about him not liking the original footage being shot during the daytime and wanted to go back to shoot at night instead.  Black continues on to specify the concept of multiple Predator clans, and that the ones in this film are not necessarily representative of all of them.

“The Predators, they wear tribal garments, they swing from trees, they have spears, and yet they arrive in interstellar spacecraft. So that suggests to me that there is a faction among Predators that isn’t just ceremonial, there have to be scientists to design these spacecraft. They have to have a society with strata, a society that could even support internecine conflict between the various classes let’s say. So without getting into that, I think it’s important to understand that maybe there are factions, and that we can choose one faction, let’s say there’s a particularly irritable group of Predators on Predator world and let’s say that having bested their champions, not once but twice in the past, that they’re not really happy with Earth, and so in that event it would make sense for them to strike back. And it might not be all Predators, but it is in particular a group of very angry Predators who aren’t above maybe even cheating a little bit.”

This specification is likely to quell the fears of some fans worried about significant lore retconning. Black also estimates that the runtime of The Predator is currently about 1 hour and 40 minutes.

Black goes on to say that he suggested multiple cuts of the film to Fox for home release, but that the initial cut would have unfinished special effects that might be costly to complete meaning that it’s very unlikely we’ll be seeing any alternate cut for home release.

Collider also interviewed some of the cast for the film which you can view below. They don’t reveal anything new but it’s a fantastic look at the chemistry the cast members share and it’s well worth a watch for the entertainment value in that alone!

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  1. The Cruentus
    I did say arguably. CH was certainly reckless.

    Wolf never successfully fended off Xenomorphs, they were were silly incompetent weak head bobbing things that only looked like Xenomorphs.  :P
    Also said creatures would not have needed to be tracked down if Wolf didn't release them in the first place. Hunting means tracking something that is trying not to be seen or at least someting not easily found, the "Xenomorphs" were not hiding, they were in plain sight to the point they were caught on camera and nearly every civilian was seeing them and was shooting at them. It would not require any effort to find them. So wolf successfully tracking them down is no feat.
    I said before about how one can be defined by the quality of their enemies, look at Wolf's enemies.

  2. Huggs
    If by feats you mean releasing Xenomorphs, losing his technology, causing blackouts, then you're right, he argubly far surpasses the other Predators in terms of incompetence

    Barring Wolf running straight for the nearest National News Reporter and taking a selfie with him live and on camera for the whole world to see, none will ever be as incompetent as City Hunter. Wolf was successfully tracking down and holding off several xenomorphs at once and even held his own against a predalien for as long as the fight lasted. As opposed to CH, who was getting his booty handed to him by an aging police officer, and losing equipment like it was last years fashions.

    Wolf might not have been the ultimate predator, but at least he was the one doing the hunting, and not the one being hunted.
  3. The Cruentus
    Shane could have referred to Wolf as well... Wolf was already a champion when coming to Earth to take down the Predalien. And given that AvP and AvPR is now accepted by The Predator, we can not leave them out of sight.

    Of course (and I'm at this side also) Shane referred to P1 and P2 when talking about 'champions'.

    AVP is non-canon (as far as I am aware), the only thing this new film has done as far as I know is simply reused some of the weapons, the shurikins.

    Also Wolf is no champion, at least in terms of feats.

    Wolf was cool looking but he was no champion. He messed up more then what he accomplished.

    He definitely made things worse, not to mention he went off course a few times.

    Wolf was the best predator champion out of all the friggin movies, what are you talking about Master? 

    His feats way surpassed all others, I mean just look at the rich history on his weapon/biomask display case, as well as his face (yes I suppose by virtue of the acid scar one could count that as he f'ed up...but he SURVIVED to tell the tale)

    If by feats you mean releasing Xenomorphs, losing his technology, causing blackouts, then you're right, he argubly far surpasses the other Predators in terms of incompetence. He is supposed to be a cleaner, yet only makes things more messy. They really should have sent another Predator.  :laugh:

    He may look cool, have cool toys but Wolf was terrible at his job. I won't deny that in that crappy movie, he was one of the only entertaining things there, which I think is why some fans like him, simply because everything else was worse but when something is only good because everything else is worse then that should tell you something.
  4. The Old One
    There's no justice in this world, constantly, that's no surprise. Bryan Fuller could do something excellent with Alien IMO, he's great at writing compelling characters with depth but can also do blood, monsters and tension exceptionally.

    He's incorporated characters of various ethnicities, gender and sexuality genuinely.
    No token characters.
  5. BigDaddyJohn
    I'm surprised at how terrible it looks considering the series popularity I thought it would have a higher budget, or at least more professional work.
    Perhaps they ran out of time.

    Contrast that with this, a show cancelled due to its lack of popularity;



    Oh god what a f**king great show ! Visually stunning ! Such a shame it was cancelled, when shit shows keep getting renewed... There's no justice in this world sometimes...
  6. Danversity
    I just thinking a few days ago about the AM/PM comment by Black.  I wonder if they ever considered using color grading software in post production for the day scenes especially involving the APCs?  Plenty of TV/Movies use this technique.  I believe in season 2 of The Walking Dead in an episode where Shane goes with another guy to gather supplies at a school was all shot during the day but in the show it was presented as a night time scene using color grading.

    When done properly, Day for Night works very well, but it still looks different from actual nocturnal lighting... I guess they didn't do that because the film already has so many scenes shot at night that applying Day for Night only on the third act would just make it look obvious side-by-side with the rest of the film.
  7. The Old One
    I'm surprised at how terrible it looks considering the series popularity I thought it would have a higher budget, or at least more professional work.
    Perhaps they ran out of time.

    Contrast that with this, a show cancelled due to its lack of popularity;

  8. ace3g
    I just thinking a few days ago about the AM/PM comment by Black.  I wonder if they ever considered using color grading software in post production for the day scenes especially involving the APCs?  Plenty of TV/Movies use this technique.  I believe in season 2 of The Walking Dead in an episode where Shane goes with another guy to gather supplies at a school was all shot during the day but in the show it was presented as a night time scene using color grading.

  9. D88M
    That first paragraph is the first information about this movie since the whole time there have been news about this movie that is actually interesting and sounds good. We might even be getting a decent movie after all.
  10. azamultic
    If you dislike Zimmer, I'm curious what composers you do enjoy?
    Aside from Johannsson, obviously, since you mentioned him!

    Jed Kurzel, Mica Levi, Elliott Goldenthal, Mark Griskey, Jack Wall, Sam Hullick, Clint Mansell, Michael McCann, Michael Kamen, John Ottoman, Marco Beltrami & Howard Shore.

    McCann and Hullick huh ? Mass effect and Deus Ex fan maybe ?

    I like Michael McCann best under his work as his alias as Behaviour actually. Double Agent has a great soundtrack. Though Deus Ex-HR is nothing to scoff at.

    The original Mass Effect soundtrack still has the best of the three.

    Jack Walls work for "Jade Empire" is Amazing!
  11. The Old One
    If you dislike Zimmer, I'm curious what composers you do enjoy?
    Aside from Johannsson, obviously, since you mentioned him!

    Jed Kurzel, Mica Levi, Elliott Goldenthal, Mark Griskey, Jack Wall, Sam Hullick, Clint Mansell, Michael McCann, Michael Kamen, John Ottoman, Marco Beltrami & Howard Shore.

    McCann and Hullick huh ? Mass effect and Deus Ex fan maybe ?

    I like Michael McCann best under his work as his alias as Behaviour actually. Double Agent has a great soundtrack. Though Deus Ex-HR is nothing to scoff at.

    The original Mass Effect soundtrack still has the best of the three.
  12. Samhain13
    Nor with me.  First they started out as hunting for sport, but now with the overpowered tech and genetic upgrading, it certainly makes me question their angle in all this hunting business.  Is it not for sport anymore?  It makes them seem like big bullies in the schoolyard getting mad when some shrimp makes a snide remark.  Sort of a disproportionate response to what has happened in the previous movies.   

    Yep and if the ones that are into upgrading don't want more predators dying to humans, maybe their main focus should be on improving how cocky they are  :P.

    If they are that good at dna and genes maybe they can remove whatever makes them so arrogant. That's what made the previous 2 lose, the issue wasn't their physical capacity, they are focusing on the wrong area.
  13. yautjapet
    I wonder how much oversight Black had on the prequel novel Hunters and Hunted, because the pred in that is very enthusiastic about the danger of a hunt against challenging prey, and accepts that death is a possibility and that's just the nature of it. Which is much more in line with what I'd expect, not this "revenge" concept. Must not be from the same faction as Upgrade! I hope Upgrade and his ilk are the minority among predators.
  14. Wysps
    Quote
    "So without getting into that, I think it’s important to understand that maybe there are factions, and that we can choose one faction, let’s say there’s a particularly irritable group of Predators on Predator world and let’s say that having bested their champions, not once but twice in the past, that they’re not really happy with Earth, and so in that event it would make sense for them to strike back. And it might not be all Predators, but it is in particular a group of very angry Predators who aren’t above maybe even cheating a little bit.”

    Not happy with Earth due to the deaths of 2 of them... really sounds like the upgrade got a big insecure predator ego, in the Predator 2 novel Pussyface was excited due to Anytime's death and that was what motivated him to come to Earth in the first place.

    They all cheat anyway. Invisibility, weaponry far in advanced of anything their prey has, specific vision modes to more easily identify prey...It's not inconceivable to me that others would take it even further.

    For me it's the opposite now that you mention that, they are already so overpowered next to most prey due to all their assets so roiding just seem like it will end up taking all the fun of the challenge.  I could see the Hish from the novels doing this, as they were space slavers, but hunters who enjoy challeging themselves... doesn't fit in for me.

    Nor with me.  First they started out as hunting for sport, but now with the overpowered tech and genetic upgrading, it certainly makes me question their angle in all this hunting business.  Is it not for sport anymore?  It makes them seem like big bullies in the schoolyard getting mad when some shrimp makes a snide remark.  Sort of a disproportionate response to what has happened in the previous movies.   
  15. BigDaddyJohn
    If you dislike Zimmer, I'm curious what composers you do enjoy?
    Aside from Johannsson, obviously, since you mentioned him!

    Jed Kurzel, Mica Levi, Elliott Goldenthal, Mark Griskey, Jack Wall, Sam Hullick, Clint Mansell, Michael McCann, Michael Kamen, John Ottoman, Marco Beltrami & Howard Shore.

    McCann and Hullick huh ? Mass effect and Deus Ex fan maybe ?
  16. Marc505
    There's going to be absolute reams and reams of additional, cut footage on the DVD release! It'll be the Alien 3 of Predator movies. Excellent!

    *Wrote that before listening to the full interview, perhaps not hours of extras then... Interesting to hear him discuss the wider Predator culture, coincidentally been thinking about this a lot recently myself!
  17. Samhain13
    Quote
    "So without getting into that, I think it’s important to understand that maybe there are factions, and that we can choose one faction, let’s say there’s a particularly irritable group of Predators on Predator world and let’s say that having bested their champions, not once but twice in the past, that they’re not really happy with Earth, and so in that event it would make sense for them to strike back. And it might not be all Predators, but it is in particular a group of very angry Predators who aren’t above maybe even cheating a little bit.”

    Not happy with Earth due to the deaths of 2 of them... really sounds like the upgrade got a big insecure predator ego, in the Predator 2 novel Pussyface was excited due to Anytime's death and that was what motivated him to come to Earth in the first place.

    They all cheat anyway. Invisibility, weaponry far in advanced of anything their prey has, specific vision modes to more easily identify prey...It's not inconceivable to me that others would take it even further.

    For me it's the opposite now that you mention that, they are already so overpowered next to most prey due to all their assets so roiding just seem like it will end up taking all the fun of the challenge.  I could see the Hish from the novels doing this, as they were space slavers, but hunters who enjoy challeging themselves... doesn't fit in for me.

  18. yautjapet

    Sorry, I agree with R.S on this one, and it doesn't help that the soundtrack is subpar and overbearing.


    Also whoa whoa whoa somebody thinks the BR2049 soundtrack is subpar? To each their own but I thought it was one of the best soundtracks I have heard in a long time.

    I don't think Hans Zimmer has composed anything worthwhile in his life, it's just an inferior version of Vangelis score that sounds like it was mixed in with a motorbike engine.

    I think it's extremely disappointing that not only an excellent film like BR2049 has that score but also that we'll never get what Johann Johannsson would have composed for the picture.
     May he rest in peace.

    If you dislike Zimmer, I'm curious what composers you do enjoy? Aside from Johannsson, obviously, since you mentioned him!
  19. azamultic
    Also, the others seemed sad and acting pretty respectful when he got killed.

    That's because one of their own had died.

    Greyback didn't look particularly pissed off at Harrigan for the killing. He gave Harrigan an Atta Boy and left.




    There is never, ever an idication that he's a young Predator or anything, i go by what is actually shown in the movies, and this guy is an A-Class killing machine.

    He slaughters a number of gang bangers, cops, and group of government agents, yes. But he's also incredibly sloppy. He leaves behind equipment, even when he doesn't have to (the spear tip) he openly engages these groups, showing no sign of stealth or concern, an dhe led Harrigan back to the tribes ship.

    Not particularly pro.

    In this case they are all not very professional, I mean first predator got killed by the tree, when he had so many chances, also left a lot of tech too. Second one did the same mistake (talking about his aggressive style is a little bit different. I mean Joe Frazier was famous for his more brawling style of fighting then Mohammed Ali's more slick style of fighting, but no body would say that Joe wasn't an amazing boxer) so talking about the style is a little bit off. And in the end it's all tools of the writing, they separated these two predators by different hunting styles. I don't see no new blood idea in these movies.
  20. Jigsaw85
    Wolf was the best predator champion out of all the friggin movies, what are you talking about Master? 

    His feats way surpassed all others, I mean just look at the rich history on his weapon/biomask display case, as well as his face (yes I suppose by virtue of the acid scar one could count that as he f'ed up...but he SURVIVED to tell the tale)

    What feats? The aliens in AVPR were weak pathetic pussies who couldn't even get out of the grip of his hand. A 10 year old predator could beat the shit out of those pathetic bugs. Yet despite that, and the predalien inexplicably not killing him whenever he had the chance, he still failed at his mission and left his tech all over town and just openly announced his presence to the world whenever he got the chance. Wolf's not a champion, he's the mentally handicapped kid on the short bus. At least city hunter used some stealth and skill.
  21. OpenMaw
    Also, the others seemed sad and acting pretty respectful when he got killed.

    That's because one of their own had died.

    Greyback didn't look particularly pissed off at Harrigan for the killing. He gave Harrigan an Atta Boy and left.




    There is never, ever an idication that he's a young Predator or anything, i go by what is actually shown in the movies, and this guy is an A-Class killing machine.

    He slaughters a number of gang bangers, cops, and group of government agents, yes. But he's also incredibly sloppy. He leaves behind equipment, even when he doesn't have to (the spear tip) he openly engages these groups, showing no sign of stealth or concern, an dhe led Harrigan back to the tribes ship.

    Not particularly pro.
  22. Rankles75
    Predators deciding to cheat and roid up. Wow they're like hackers on online games who make themselves invincible and then pretend they accomplished a hard fought victory.

    Sorry, I agree with R.S on this one, and it doesn't help that the soundtrack is subpar and overbearing.


    Also whoa whoa whoa somebody thinks the BR2049 soundtrack is subpar? To each their own but I thought it was one of the best soundtracks I have heard in a long time.

    I enjoyed BR2049, though it wasn’t a patch on the original, but thought the soundtrack was very disappointing...
  23. The Old One

    Sorry, I agree with R.S on this one, and it doesn't help that the soundtrack is subpar and overbearing.


    Also whoa whoa whoa somebody thinks the BR2049 soundtrack is subpar? To each their own but I thought it was one of the best soundtracks I have heard in a long time.

    I don't think Hans Zimmer has composed anything worthwhile in his life, it's just an inferior version of Vangelis score that sounds like it was mixed in with a motorbike engine.

    I think it's extremely disappointing that not only an excellent film like BR2049 has that score but also that we'll never get what Johann Johannsson would have composed for the picture.
     May he rest in peace.

  24. BigDaddyJohn
    Predators deciding to cheat and roid up. Wow they're like hackers on online games who make themselves invincible and then pretend they accomplished a hard fought victory.

    They all cheat anyway. Invisibility, weaponry far in advanced of anything their prey has, specific vision modes to more easily identify prey...It's not inconceivable to me that others would take it even further. When we have the ability to safely do things like "upgrade" ourselves, you can be certain people will take that opportunity.

    Yeah i agree, why some of them wouldn't ? Like humans, they can take things further indeed.
  25. Corporal Hicks
    Predators deciding to cheat and roid up. Wow they're like hackers on online games who make themselves invincible and then pretend they accomplished a hard fought victory.

    They all cheat anyway. Invisibility, weaponry far in advanced of anything their prey has, specific vision modes to more easily identify prey...It's not inconceivable to me that others would take it even further. When we have the ability to safely do things like "upgrade" ourselves, you can be certain people will take that opportunity.
  26. BigDaddyJohn
    I can imagine City Hunter being a champion. He killed a shitload of armed to the teeth guys in close combat, eliminated Keys team with ease. He was also pretty smart, tracking Harrigan and the others in a big town, purposefully killing specific people to unsettle Harrigan even more and only ever got scratched by Harrigan himself.

    Also, the others seemed sad and acting pretty respectful when he got killed.

    There is never, ever an idication that he's a young Predator or anything, i go by what is actually shown in the movies, and this guy is an A-Class killing machine.

    I agree with you, he just got too cocky in the end, like jungle hunter
  27. ChanceVance
    Predators deciding to cheat and roid up. Wow they're like hackers on online games who make themselves invincible and then pretend they accomplished a hard fought victory.

    Sorry, I agree with R.S on this one, and it doesn't help that the soundtrack is subpar and overbearing.


    Also whoa whoa whoa somebody thinks the BR2049 soundtrack is subpar? To each their own but I thought it was one of the best soundtracks I have heard in a long time.
  28. Master
    Wolf was the best predator champion out of all the friggin movies, what are you talking about Master? 

    His feats way surpassed all others, I mean just look at the rich history on his weapon/biomask display case, as well as his face (yes I suppose by virtue of the acid scar one could count that as he f'ed up...but he SURVIVED to tell the tale)

    I`m talking about facts.
  29. Wysps
    Wolf was the best predator champion out of all the friggin movies, what are you talking about Master? 

    His feats way surpassed all others, I mean just look at the rich history on his weapon/biomask display case, as well as his face (yes I suppose by virtue of the acid scar one could count that as he f'ed up...but he SURVIVED to tell the tale)

    Well the props may insinuate one thing, but the story itself - way in which Wolf behaved i.e. his countless mess-ups - indicates otherwise.  He may have been an ass kicker in his golden years, but AVPR suggests those days are gone.  Still, he as a character is visually very cool  8)

    I can imagine City Hunter being a champion. He killed a shitload of armed to the teeth guys in close combat, eliminated Keys team with ease. He was also pretty smart, tracking Harrigan and the others in a big town, purposefully killing specific people to unsettle Harrigan even more and only ever got scratched by Harrigan himself.

    Also, the others seemed sad and acting pretty respectful when he got killed.

    There is never, ever an idication that he's a young Predator or anything, i go by what is actually shown in the movies, and this guy is an A-Class killing machine.

    True.  I think this is good evidence that his tribe/clan/brethren held him in some positive regard.
  30. Raoh76
    Wolf was the best predator champion out of all the friggin movies, what are you talking about Master? 

    His feats way surpassed all others, I mean just look at the rich history on his weapon/biomask display case, as well as his face (yes I suppose by virtue of the acid scar one could count that as he f'ed up...but he SURVIVED to tell the tale)
  31. azamultic
    Yeah, he wasn't a champion. He was a new guy out to prove himself to become one of the group.

    Or, just going strictly by the film without the Thomas Brothers say, he was just another Predator on another hunt. Nothing special.

    I don't see no problem with CH being the Champion )))) Even so I am bias, he still could be a champion, like the Golden Glove level champion and not the WBC champion ;)

    I can imagine City Hunter being a champion. He killed a shitload of armed to the teeth guys in close combat, eliminated Keys team with ease. He was also pretty smart, tracking Harrigan and the others in a big town, purposefully killing specific people to unsettle Harrigan even more and only ever got scratched by Harrigan himself.

    Also, the others seemed sad and acting pretty respectful when he got killed.

    There is never, ever an idication that he's a young Predator or anything, i go by what is actually shown in the movies, and this guy is an A-Class killing machine.

     Totally agree with you sir!
  32. Xerxész
    Shane could have referred to Wolf as well... Wolf was already a champion when coming to Earth to take down the Predalien. And given that AvP and AvPR is now accepted by The Predator, we can not leave them out of sight.

    Of course (and I'm at this side also) Shane referred to P1 and P2 when talking about 'champions'.
  33. Johnny Handsome
    I can imagine City Hunter being a champion. He killed a shitload of armed to the teeth guys in close combat, eliminated Keys team with ease. He was also pretty smart, tracking Harrigan and the others in a big town, purposefully killing specific people to unsettle Harrigan even more and only ever got scratched by Harrigan himself.

    Also, the others seemed sad and acting pretty respectful when he got killed.

    There is never, ever an idication that he's a young Predator or anything, i go by what is actually shown in the movies, and this guy is an A-Class killing machine.
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