At 2017’s Saturn Awards Pop Culture Renegades had the opportunity to put a couple of quick questions to The Predator director Shane Black which they have just now uploaded. First they asked Hawkins himself what was his favourite part of filming The Predator was. The answer? The film’s ensemble cast!
“The best part of filming had to be the ensemble. It always is. And that to me that was the fun. You get these guys with real acting chops together and let them play. And if I’m a good playground supervisor then what you get are really remarkable results. I think that between the loose gruff, very macho rhythm that we managed to find here with these very funny, very masculine guys – and of course with one or two very beautiful, though women as well – it’s just really lit me up. It’s made me very happy to get that.”
Pop Culture Renegades also asked him what he found to be the most gruelling aspect of filming The Predator to which he answered working with green screen.
“You go to work a lot of days – it’s one thing to go to work and there’s green all around you and you’re just in the jungle. But when there’s green all around you and it’s that’s green screen colour. You have a railing and wall of green and you go “look, a monster!” We tried to minimise that by using as many practical effects as we could so that we could combine…sort of the moulds that ADI provided us with the enhancement that CG brings to that. I was actually very pleased with the interplay between those two elements, practical and CG, came off in this. That was gruelling…the effects.”
Black was also asked about the filming conditions in Vancouver (it was really rainy!) and confirmed that The Predator is set during Halloween of 2018. You can check out the interview in full below.
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If the film has received negativity, it's earned it. Between what I've heard of the leaked script, the lack of marketing thus far, and some of the set photos that have been seen, plus the trailer, it doesn't "look" (at this time) like a good movie. Goodness gracious, the reactions to the previews were such that a chunk of the movie had to be redone, and some tonal changes made.
Now is this enough to say it sucks? I don't think so. Websites that review movies can say whatever they want, but as an individual, I prefer to form my own opinions on whether something was good or not by experiencing it for myself. I wouldn't give R.T. too much credit for whatever happens to this film, nor would I say it's going to be a cult classic. It will be released and real life everyday people (like us) will see it. It's going to work for some, and fail for others. And for certain viewers, it'll be downright terrible
In my personal opinion, if this film flops it will simply be because it will have failed to resonate with the majority of the modern audience. I see it bringing in 215m-260m on the high end and definitely no more. Maybe 275m, if all the planets line up correctly. Probably making back 125% on top of it's production budget, or something to that effect. People want Dinosaurs and Pixar movies now; stuff the whole family can see. The market and the audience for this sort of thing is simply not what it used to be. And don't forget a pg-13 "Meg" is coming out in August, with a large budget and a barrel of laughs apparently. So that's not going to help any.
I'm not going to throw all my eggs in one basket all because of a old bad dodgy script. Without the changes made to the original predator film during its production , it would of just been another B movie , instead it's now a cult classic. The Predator could easily do the same. Also if you go into the cinema with totally negative vibes to begin with , you are just going to pick the film apart , rather than enjoying it for what it is , and again openmaw ehy can't you just admit that the truth is you don't know how it will turn out. You seem convinced it's going to bad , it's like your not prepared to give it a chance first.
What part of this film that you've heard about or read about so far screams "cult classic" to you?
Basically this. You guys are right. It's not negativity for the sake of it, it's the story full of stupid ideas. No one who read the script said "woah, it's the great story! Can wait!". Most outright say it's crap and others who are more toned down and/or positive say "let's see who it turns out". I'm the most towards third group, but the crapieness of the script is a fact.
Yes that makes perfect sense... Wait...
Dredd did not fail at the box office because of some random assholes on a forum like me were saying it looked like garbage. Honestly, nobody knew that movie was coming out until it was already released. If anything is to blame for Dredd's poor reception, it was bad marketing. Nobody knew about it.
I get where you're coming from, but you're ultimately wrong. If they've made major changes, which I will restate the trailer we have seen does not indicate at all, then there's a change we're going to get something decent, but between the leaked outline, the script, this trailer, and other aspects I don't have hopes we're going to get a quality Predator film this time.
I'm not someone who goes into movies with blind optimism that it'll be good, especially when things indicate the opposite. I do try to go into films in a neutral position.
I'm not saying it can't be good. I'm saying that some very basic fundamental things in that script need to change before it can be good, and I hope that Shane Black was sensible when he read the script that he said "Wow, that's a terrible. Let's change that."
I agree with this. I'm having fun thinking about the movie before it comes out, but I do have standards and won't praise what I don't like once I see it before my eyes. It depends how it's executed.
Still haven't seen anything I hate.
Also if it was all that bad fox would of just pulled the plug , I don't accept any old slip either , I hated avp and predators and I'm not insecure by your opinions either , your entitled to them , especially when there is reason behind them , but right now openmaw frankly your opinions are largely just based on nothing but your own bias , I was the same a few months ago I'm no saint , and I'm not accusing you of hating on the film either , I'm cautiously excited, but some fans seem hell bent on sabataging any hype this film has got , and that's where it's damaging to the films box office , we live in the world of the internet , especially on Reddit and YouTube. I just don't like it when people pretend they know what the film will be like when they haven't even seen it , it's pretty arrogant in my opinion.
A "true" fan doesn't blindly swallow whatever slop they are given. You can stop telling me what I can or cannot do based on what I do or do not know, thank you.
You need to stop being so insecure about other people having opinions that are not glowing praise. No, they will not hurt the film. The people putting together the ads, the writers, the director, the actors. They are the ones that will either make this thing succeed or fail. It's not up to the audience to make it succeed. We're the ones putting down money to see it. It's up to them to deliver quality, one way or the other.
Up to a point. Terrible ideas are terrible ideas, you can only work against that so much. Now, if they take them out and replace them with more sensible or less insane stupidity then yes. You can change jokes, you can resequence events.
And for the record I'm very sceptical of who actually has read the script and who is basing it on hearsay . The script isn't even online anymore , I have it because a very friendly Australian fan gave it to me , it's largely inside circles where the script is floating about , you can't just google it and find it , so I'm very wary of this whole "I've read the script" thing , sure you might off , but I think a lot of people are just regurgitating what other people have told them. I've read the script 3 times , and each time I read it , it got progressively better and better so there's that.
It's not about wanting it to fail. If they followed that script, it will be a failure.
Now, to be fair, there was some dialogue in the recently released teaser that was more or less the same from the script and there were even some scenes that were extremely similar to the script. BUT, it was only 90 SECONDS of footage. The movie is going to be at least 100 minutes. That's why reading a first draft of a movie isn't ideal because a script changes so much from the first draft to the final draft, hell even the shooting script changes. Plus once the movie is being filmed new ideas pop up. Shane Black has known to change things even during filming and write new scenes. Finally, when the movie is being edited it can become a completely different movie.
However the way some "fans" are literally trying to sabotage the film before it's come out is really starting to grate on me. I sort of feel like as someone who truly loves this character, I have to stick up for this film , because the simple fact remains we haven't seen it yet . By the way thanks for the heads up on Comcast bro , I wasn't aware of that !
Disney hasn't taken over Fox yet. It may not even happen. Comcast made a larger cash bid for Fox but nothing will happen for a while due to other deals being reviewed. It's business as usual until any of those deals go through.
But yes, I have also felt a sense of heavy negativity towards the film based off of a very old early draft and poorly edited teaser. Which does warrant some caution for the film but not the overall hatred it's been getting. Some people just deal in extremes.
Not exactly, plenty of bad movies make tons of money. Transformers movies, DCEU films (which I have enjoyed, but many critics and fans tore apart), plus we get plenty of generic action flicks throughout the summer that make money (Rampage, etc). Overseas markets swarm to blockbusters regardless of quality.
There are also plenty of great blockbuster films that make no money. It all depends on the marketing, quality of the movie, which if it's good will lead to word of mouth and increased views. Fox will need to amp up the marketing once we get to August, they have a really good release date and can definitely do some box office if the movie works.
Like I said the other day fans bring down franchises long before studio companies do, and if I don't see a new predator film for 20 years all because some fans can't accept change is needed to the formula , and so the film flops because no one bothered to see it , I'll be highly pissed at them , not Shane black. At the end of the day if they really cared about the character the way they claim , they would want the film to be a success, regardless if they like it or not.
It's sort of akin to biting your nose off to spite your face imo.
Of course brother!
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I am totally agree
I am not protecting CGI) Even though I am 3d modeler, I do love practical effects, and wish it was used more. So I am totaly on your side. I am just saying that CGI commonly accepted as a cheap way of making movies by regular people, but a lot of people form the industry saying otherwise, it's why I lfet my comment. I never worked for ILM, so I can't tell you from my expirience that CGI is much more expencisve then practical, but if profesionals do say though, I decide to believe them, until somebody oficially will debunk it
I'm not taking away from CGI because when it's done right , it's incredible and you would never know it was being used ... the film zodiac was almost entirely CGI and again you would never even know. But when they say CGI is more expensive than practical effects , I just don't buy it , perhaps 10-15 years ago it was , but not anymore. I think it's all just a cop out to make films more cheaply. All the films that used CGI correctly used it as a last resort.
In my opinion CGI should only be used to do the things practical effects could never achieve, it should be another tool in the workman box that's there if you need it , but only when you need it. I don't think it should be the go to thing , build your sets properly and if it needs a CGI makeover so be it , but whole worlds build out of rendering is lazy film making imo.
What I heard form ADI studio that CGI will cost the same or more compare to Practical effects, but the reason CGI is more popular for producers is because the when theys shoot a scene, and finished, and if something didn't work the way they wanted, they would need to create puppits and practical effects again, when CGI is just there and you can reuse as much time as you want. Producers thinks that it's better and more comfartable to use CGI then practical effects. THey don't want to spend money on the same thing. They pey for practical effects, and after they need to pay again, because something didn't work as they expected. Where for CGI the peying once(more expencive) but they don't need to pay for the VIsual Effect again. That's explanation from ADI heads. So yeh CGI is not cheaper then practical, they just don't want to pay twice.
that is incorrect the movie might have been average but the effects are pretty good.
not for me, sure back then they looked good but now
naaaah.
i never said the mummy returns
yeah starship troopers holds up so well what a underrated movie my god now thats a masterpiece.
IMHO Starship Troopers still holds up to this day.
go back and watch the mummy those effects are not that great anymore and dont forget the matrix reloaded agent smith cgi battle :3 gagagaga
of course the star wars effects are good because more money put into it.
no shit the movie is also from 1999 but remember not every shark scene in the movie is computer effects.
But the computer effects got old as f**k.
deep blue sea is amazing too.