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Practical Effects, What Makes The Predator Stand Out & More In New The Predator Set Report!

In addition to chatting to one of the gentle giants from The Predator, Den of Geek’s set report also included a lot of other great information about The Predator. They had the chance to watch the cast between shots, watch scenes being shot and talk to the cast about the time on the film.

Boyd Holbrook, the film’s leading man, had plenty of praise to heap onto Shane Black and his focus on the new set of characters who are going up against the latest Predators.

It’s Black’s focus on the characters and their relationships, Holbrook says, that will separate The Predator from other expensive blockbusters.

“In this demographic of films, these mega-movies, I feel like there’s been a little bit of phoning it in,” Holbrook tells us. “They’re all becoming this big, long film. I’m not tooting  my own horn, but that’s why I was so attracted to a film like Logan, because I felt that it had substance and story, but still fitting in that demographic […]Once I saw there was an element of a true relationship between all the characters, and that Shane was coming on, the kind of film Shane makes, I was ecstatic, I guess you could say.”

 Practical Effects, What Makes The Predator Stand Out & More In New The Predator Set Report!

“It’s Black’s focus on the characters and their relationships, Holbrook says, that will separate The Predator from other expensive blockbusters.”

Fellow cast member Thomas Jane, who plays Baxley, also took the chance to enthuse to Den of Geek about Shane Black’s take on The Predator.

“He’s trying to create a sense of realism,” the actor says, “but also a sense of humour with the thing, you know? It’s a little irreverent. It’s also scary, with a lot of terrific action. I love the idea of taking a bunch of lunatic, misfit veterans who were used up by the military and thrown away – they can’t even get their meds on time, or get proper care – we take these guys and pit them against a threat from outer space. I think it’s great.”

Jane also talks about his thoughts on why the Predator as a creature is so enduring and reveals a little about the nature of his character’s relationship with Keegan Michael-Key’s own character, Coil, saying that Braxley “really want to kill him in his sleep.

Den of Geek also had the opportunity to talk Predator effects veterans Alec Gillis and Tom Woodruff Jr about The Predator’s character design, the mix of practical and digital effects and how important it was to fans to see a real Predator on the set.

“We’re big fans of practical effects, because we think the real stuff just looks the best,” Woodruff says. “That’s not to say there’s not a place for the digital as well, because there always is. So there are several Predator characters in this movie that are practical, as they should be in our opinion, and we think it’s what the fans want to see: a real Predator standing next to a person.”

There are little clues here and there, however, that not all the creature effects in The Predator will be practical. Later in the day, we see a sequence where a Predator goes flying backwards through a window – likely the same school window we saw Holbrook slammed up against in an earlier scene. It’s a small yet near looking stunt: we see the shot from a low, three-quarter angle as the Predator crashes through the wooden window frame.

Once the camera operators have caught the take, a crew member rushes in with those mirrored ball things that visual effects use to add CG elements to the sequence in post-production. First a mirrored ball is lowered in front of the camera, then a matt one, then a third one textured after the Predator’s skin: that pale, mottled grey with an amphibious, sticky sheen. Finally a prop arm is lowered into view; it’s unmistakably a Predator arm, but huge even by the alien hunter’s standards. Could it be that The Predator of the title isn’t a guy in a suit like the others, but a much bigger one brought to life with CGI? The occasional mention of a “10-foot mutha” certainly suggests that he will be.

 Practical Effects, What Makes The Predator Stand Out & More In New The Predator Set Report!

“There’s sort of a love-hate relationship between the two of us [Keegan Michael-Key’s Coil],” Jane says, his face deadpan. “I really want to kill him in his sleep, but I also feel that we have a connection – we need each other in a way. He needs redemption from me. I just want to kill him.”

This latest set report from Den of Geek is full to the brim with some really interesting insights and comments about the work that went into The Predator. This includes plenty of comments from the cast and details on their characters, and some very specific scene details. Head on over to Den of Geek to check out the full report!

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  1. ace3g
    Why Shane Black Decided To Direct The Predator

    Director Shane Black opened up to CinemaBlend and other outlets and explained that a significant draw to work on the film involved working with an alien creature who had a discernable personality. Black elaborated:

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        No, I just thought that it was a great, iconic alien. And, what separated it from other alien invasion movies wasn't just a space plot, it was an actual space creature with a mythos and a sense of honor, in some respect. A mission. And, a sense of humor, oddly. The idea of the game it plays. It's rare that the Predator shows humor, but there are moments where you see it almost look at someone like, 'Really?'

    https://www.cinemablend.com/news/2425421/why-shane-black-decided-to-direct-the-predator
  2. black
    It will be very stupid on the part of Shane not to take this into account but the chances are small ... I hope the film will still showcase the things of the City Hunter.
  3. Wysps
    If Anna knew about it, makes sense that others will.

    True, just really curious

    Obviously he is Dutch's son...

    I thought about this awhile ago, but didn't read that anywhere in the leaked script that I remember
    I read through it really fast

    You are correct. That would just be beyond excessive...

    I think enough has happened in the previous movies and artifacts have been left lying around to assume that the right people know enough about what’s going on. Not a secret, but not something that the general public knows about. I imagine the latter part will probably change after this movie.
  4. Huggs
    Whoops, got Alice's character name from I am Legend confused with the one from Predators. I meant Isabelle, not Anna. Boy, you can tell which one of the two I just watched.
  5. Hollywood
    What if Hopper was his uncle or something? 😉

    I doubt he's directly related to anyone in previous predator lore but perhaps he makes reference to the events of the original based on whispers through the military just like Isabelle.
  6. The Wolverine Predator
    If Anna knew about it, makes sense that others will.

    True, just really curious

     
    Obviously he is Dutch's son...

    I thought about this awhile ago, but didn't read that anywhere in the leaked script that I remember
    I read through it really fast

  7. Huggs
    Ok, I might have missed something somewhere, but what kind of Connection would Quinn McKenna have to the original?

    This is from the Collider article Hicks posted:

    Holbrook teased a connection to the original film through his character, who is familiar with the Predator lore. “I’ve seen something, and maybe there is a familiarity. I wouldn’t want to say that he’s a UFO conspiracy theorist, but he’s heard of things and seen things, and that may be a reference to the original. So that’s the reference to the original, which we are of keeping in lineage.”



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    If Anna knew about it in Predators, makes sense that others will. I hope nobody winds up being related to Arnold, that would just be too much.
  8. The Wolverine Predator
    Ok, I might have missed something somewhere, but what kind of Connection would Quinn McKenna have to the original?

    This is from the Collider article Hicks posted:

    Holbrook teased a connection to the original film through his character, who is familiar with the Predator lore. “I’ve seen something, and maybe there is a familiarity. I wouldn’t want to say that he’s a UFO conspiracy theorist, but he’s heard of things and seen things, and that may be a reference to the original. So that’s the reference to the original, which we are of keeping in lineage.”



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  9. Wysps
    It's intriguing, but not something I necessarily wanted :laugh:  Definitely more used to the sparsely clothed, organic tribal design.  The coverage and placement of the armor is sort of questionable - the entire chest and back?  (Sure we saw it in AVP, but they were younger hunters and the situation probably called for more armor...)  It is pretty "cool" though, if that's what they're going for.
  10. The Shuriken
    I like both styles of armor. There's been only one extensively armored Predator on the big screen (Scar), so I look forward to more armored Predators. I'd really like to see the Captured Predator in full view already. So far it seems to be the one good thing I'm into.
  11. yautjapet
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    When Trish Monaghan shows us the new armor she’s designed for the Predator, for instance, it has a medieval quality to its design, as if it belongs to a ritualized order of knights. One element she is particularly proud of is his new armor his back-flap, evoking feudal Japan.

    “It’s a bit Samurai, so it was able to cover, so he wasn’t too exposed,” she says of how it covers some of the musculature in the legs while still showcasing the familiar shape of what Schwarzenegger memorably deemed to be “one ugly motherf**ker.”

    Hmm, can't say I'm thrilled about more structured armor with the predator being "less exposed." I've always liked the more minimal, organic, tribal feel. I am intrigued to see it in full, though!
  12. Xerxész
    I don't know. I still stay my opinion that you can say everything you want in order to attract the audience...it's simple marketing. But what you got finally, that's the real thing.
    I say wait for the movie and after that you can praise Shane if he deserves.
  13. The Wolverine Predator
    http://www.denofgeek.com/us/movies/the-predator/273522/the-predator-reinventing-the-myth-on-the-set

    http://www.denofgeek.com/us/movies/the-predator/273544/the-predator-olivia-munn-finds-god-and-a-good-role-among-aliens

    Mostly the same stuff but there was a little bit about the new Predator design -

    Quote
    When Trish Monaghan shows us the new armor she’s designed for the Predator, for instance, it has a medieval quality to its design, as if it belongs to a ritualized order of knights. One element she is particularly proud of is his new armor his back-flap, evoking feudal Japan.

    “It’s a bit Samurai, so it was able to cover, so he wasn’t too exposed,” she says of how it covers some of the musculature in the legs while still showcasing the familiar shape of what Schwarzenegger memorably deemed to be “one ugly motherf**ker.”

    I defiantly loves these parts of the article


    “It does play a little slower, maybe like a Western, which would lend itself to that fear factor.” It also is a promising departure from the original film, which Holbrook says he’s a fan of—and that Shane Black apparently had running on loop for two weeks in the production office of the film before shooting started—but the star repeatedly demurs at comparisons with his Quinn to Arnold Schwarzenegger’s Übermensch in the original 1987 picture.

    Intriguingly, this extra dimension came intentionally from pushing the cast to via improvise and self-edit. Recalling how the first draft risked being a 150 pages long, Black says he turned to Fred Dekker and said they can’t define seven characters in dialogue; they have to cast them.

    When Trish Monaghan shows us the new armor she’s designed for the Predator, for instance, it has a medieval quality to its design, as if it belongs to a ritualized order of knights. One element she is particularly proud of is his new armor his back-flap, evoking feudal Japan.

    “It’s a bit Samurai, so it was able to cover, so he wasn’t too exposed,” she says of how it covers some of the musculature in the legs while still showcasing the familiar shape of what Schwarzenegger memorably deemed to be “one ugly motherf++ker.”

    Were you able to do any improv on the set?

    On this movie, yeah. That’s what’s so great about Shane: he’s an actor’s director and he’s also a writer. So a lot of times writers can be so married to a script, and a lot of times a director looks at the script as a Bible, but then you end up losing a lot of life that comes up that you wouldn’t normally capture on camera. I’ve worked with directors where they shoot this, they shoot this, and then they go back into the editing bay, and they test it for the audience, and they go, “I love that character, that small character, did you get that?” But they didn’t get it, because they weren’t shooting.

    So this movie, there’s been so much collaboration and just in the moment, just everyone coming up with stuff and thinking of stuff, and being present, that helps make the movie feel really fun and fresh, and alive.

  14. Corporal Hicks
    http://www.denofgeek.com/us/movies/the-predator/273522/the-predator-reinventing-the-myth-on-the-set

    http://www.denofgeek.com/us/movies/the-predator/273544/the-predator-olivia-munn-finds-god-and-a-good-role-among-aliens

    Mostly the same stuff but there was a little bit about the new Predator design -

    Quote
    When Trish Monaghan shows us the new armor she’s designed for the Predator, for instance, it has a medieval quality to its design, as if it belongs to a ritualized order of knights. One element she is particularly proud of is his new armor his back-flap, evoking feudal Japan.

    “It’s a bit Samurai, so it was able to cover, so he wasn’t too exposed,” she says of how it covers some of the musculature in the legs while still showcasing the familiar shape of what Schwarzenegger memorably deemed to be “one ugly motherf**ker.”
  15. Batalien
    Frankly the reason they got away with the twist was because Mandarin is really not an important villain. His last appearance was six years ago where he was killed by son of Obadiah Stane. Even before that he never really made a impact or had any lasting effect in Marvel universe.

    Also ever since Avengers movie happened and turned Tony Stark into A level superhero. Iron Man is now always in front and center of crossovers and mega-events. He no longer has time to deal with foes in his rogue gallery, where honestly everyone else except Mandarin, sucks.

    I never really heard of someone calling themselves Mandarin fan. It surprises me that people are still upset over Mandarin twist. I believe China had something to do with no wanting real Mandarin since even though Mandarin got a modernized revamp origin, his original story was always a racist Fu-Manchu stereotype.
  16. skull-splitter
    Hi the Mandarin twist was freaking brilliant and one of the best decisions ever made in the MCU.


    They decided to completely delete an entire character.. not sure that qualifies as a great decision.
    Could easily do a double twist and have him come back.

    Not very plausible though and this twist made the Mandarin in his final form through Guy Pierce a very generic evil mastermind.
  17. Johnny Handsome
    Hi the Mandarin twist was freaking brilliant and one of the best decisions ever made in the MCU.

    They decided to completely delete an entire character.. not sure that qualifies as a great decision.
    It does, instead of giving us another cliché super evil boogeyman, shooting rings from outer space they grounded it much more in reality, because most real life villains come with suits and pencils.
  18. yautjapet
    D88M

    "i cant even find Stark in that movie, is a generic blockbuster with a famous brand in it." Who is the Stark for you? In Iron Man 3 I saw the same Stark that used to be in all other MCU movies, but at more vulnerable state. He finally felt more relatable compare to all other movies where he is like superhuman, who never panics. But also we had a reason why he changed and act different than before.


    This is why I really enjoyed IM3. Instead of brushing off violent battles and near-death experiences like they're just another day's work, we got a glimpse of a normally cocky, self-assured hero dealing with the emotional fallout of what he's been through. And not the usual grimdark brooding but truly having to deal with fear and trauma. It was refreshing and compelling to me. And I liked the Mandarin twist, honestly, though I'll admit to not being familiar with the comics at all and what was changed.

    So yeah, while I have concerns about The Predator, Black's work on IM3 isn't one of them!
  19. Wysps
    D88M

    "i cant even find Stark in that movie, is a generic blockbuster with a famous brand in it." Who is the Stark for you? In Iron Man 3 I saw the same Stark that used to be in all other MCU movies, but at more vulnerable state. He finally felt more relatable compare to all other movies where he is like superhuman, who never panics. But also we had a reason why he changed and act different than before.
       Also I did read comics, and watched all marvel movies, for me they are not perfect, and not my favourite type of movies, but I do can enjoy them, and respect the amaunt of quality of production they put into it.
     
       Now box office is relatable to the degree about how good is the movie, of course we have tone of movies which breaking box office and being terrible movies, and also movies which are really good, but doing poorly in box office, but still box office related to this part of the conversation.
     
    Sugesting watching "The Nice Guys" or "Kiss Kiss Bang Bang" they Shane's movies and they are good.  ;)

    Or "The Long Kiss Goodnight", one of his best IMO.  That should add some comfort and optimism until September :) It did me anyway.  This at least proves that he can do heavy action with a respectable amount of humor.
  20. azamultic
    D88M

    "i cant even find Stark in that movie, is a generic blockbuster with a famous brand in it." Who is the Stark for you? In Iron Man 3 I saw the same Stark that used to be in all other MCU movies, but at more vulnerable state. He finally felt more relatable compare to all other movies where he is like superhuman, who never panics. But also we had a reason why he changed and act different than before.
       Also I did read comics, and watched all marvel movies, for me they are not perfect, and not my favourite type of movies, but I do can enjoy them, and respect the amaunt of quality of production they put into it.
     
       Now box office is relatable to the degree about how good is the movie, of course we have tone of movies which breaking box office and being terrible movies, and also movies which are really good, but doing poorly in box office, but still box office related to this part of the conversation.
     
     Sugesting watching "The Nice Guys" or "Kiss Kiss Bang Bang" they Shane's movies and they are good.  ;)
  21. D88M
    The fact that he is using the Shurikens instead of the Disc weapon tells me everything i need to know, as if IM3 was not enough proof that he has NO idea what is the essence of a character

    Iron Man 3 was a great movie. And judging a movie because the baddy uses a certain weapon is lame.

    Is not,

    We the people disagree with you... (and also the box office numbers for that matter...)

    The mcu is targeted at people who never read a Marvel comic book, and is ridiculous that say that a movie is good because it did well at the box office, is totally unrelated. Infinity War was the first attempt of disney of making something resembling a Marvel movie, still, lots of forced humor. What i am trying to say is that IM3 has nothing to do with anything Iron Man related, i cant even find Stark in that movie, is a generic blockbuster with a famous brand in it.

    Iron Man 3 is easily my favourite Marvel movie, and i said that long before Black was even considered writing/directing the next Predator. Part of it's charm is that the Character of Tony Stark is much more grounded in reality, not so much anymore with the newer movies, which is a shame.

    And yes, i f**king love the Mandarin twist, what a kick in the nuts that was... in a good way, no one saw that coming and that was something quite special in the world of crowded "going by the numbers" summer tentpoles.

    And yes, pretty much everyone i know liked it as well, especially that twist.

    The movie tried to be a subversion of what we expect of a superhero movie, i get it, but it was not well done enough to pull it off, the humor was pretty forced and dumb but that is a staple of the mcu at this point. Stark is the most out of character in this movie, but i havent watched it again since that awful first time, but IM always had lots of science fiction, i know that since BB all superhero movies try to be "grounded and realistic" but that is missing the point of making that kind of movie. And the lied with the tone the movie was gonna have in the trailers.

    Th Mandarin twist was awful, if they wanted to do that (pretty out of place in a IM movie btw) they could have done it without wasting a character.

    Everybody that i know that has read comic books pretty much dislikes most of the mcu, they are not very related to them in anyway and it shows a lot the hand of disney in it. I know someone who LOVES the mcu, but has never read a comic book, so he does not know how poor the adaptations are (for the most part, there is good stuff in the mcu)

    What i mean by all this is that in IM3, which is the only movie by this director i have seen, and where Shane had complete creative freedom and made a bad movie, so i dont have faith at all in him as a filmmaker.

    Regarding those Predator casting it would be nice to see the auditions and how they will be moving in the movie.
  22. BishopShouldGo
    Iron Man 3 is easily my favourite Marvel movie, and i said that long before Black was even considered writing/directing the next Predator. Part of it's charm is that the Character of Tony Stark is much more grounded in reality, not so much anymore with the newer movies, which is a shame.

    And yes, i f**king love the Mandarin twist, what a kick in the nuts that was... in a good way, no one saw that coming and that was something quite special in the world of crowded "going by the numbers" summer tentpoles.

    And yes, pretty much everyone i know liked it as well, especially that twist.

    I have to say, after re-watching it this weekend, I must agree. Definitely my favorite Marvel film.
  23. JungleHunter87
    I don’t know if they were misquoted or what. But, last I checked, neither Gillis or Woodruff worked on the original PREDATOR.


    They were working for Stan Winston's company at the time so it's possible they worked on the original Predator.

    His company was spilt onto two different projects around 86/87. So not everyone who was an employee at the time actually did any work on PREDATOR. Apparently Woodruff did, however, I’ve not seen any evidence Gillis did.
  24. huntin8-t0n
    @JungleHunter87, I recall Woodruff being mentioned in The Winston effect book (but I can't check, for I don't have it atm) Anyhow, if you check imdb, he's there in makeup dept.

    You’re right. I see him listed as SFX Make Up on IMDB on PREDATOR. However I didn’t see Gillis.

    Yea, about him I don't know anything, sorry. Also I didn't recall Greg Nicotero from the book I read, but on Imdb there he is (uncredited) So who knows, maybe he was uncredited. But I have no info.
  25. azamultic
    JungleHunter87 the industry of practical effects is very mixed, ADI hired Steve Wang for AVPR who were sculpting the original predator for 1987 movie, so maybe they meant that ADI hired people who worked on the original predator before(because it's no more Stan Winston studio) the creators of original predator are working as freelancers everywhere, and it's a high chance that they worked for this movie too  ;)
  26. huntin8-t0n
    @JungleHunter87, I recall Woodruff being mentioned in The Winston effect book (but I can't check, for I don't have it atm) Anyhow, if you check imdb, he's there in makeup dept.

    Really good news, I am more and more optimistic about this. Some of my friends said it has a different vibe, when first watching the trailer (which I found a bit mediocre, but hey)

    Yes, it is and maybe after 30 something years, it should be.
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